If you want to get technical...Lesley didn't actually kill anyone. She was there of course. Of the seven Tate-LaBianca victims, Tex Watson killed 6 of them. Patricia Krenwinkel (corrected, originally said Adkins) killed Abigail Folger. I think Lesley is the one who stabbed Mrs. LaBianca after she was dead, still horrible and unthinkable and I can't fathom being so brainwashed as to take part in ritualistic murders. (The arrogant reply to this is incorrect. I fact checked later to make sure.)
@Smittycat1234 - Susan Atkins was the one who killed Sharon Tate and laughed in her face when Sharon begged her to save her baby. She may have stabbed Gabby but Tex was the one who chased her out onto the lawn and finished her off. Jeez doesn't anybody watch the damned interviews?!? Atkins admits these things right out of her own mouth!!
Child killer Ian Brady had his funeral last year in the UK. There was a legal battle on what to do with his corpse because he wished for his ashes to be scattered on the moors where he murdered the children (and where the remains of one still remain missing). It was decided that he was to be cremated without a ceremony and his ashes scattered at sea. The court decided this was the best way to dispose of Brady while respecting the victims' families. That one child left unfound on the moors was never given a proper funeral by his family (his mother died just a couple of years ago) so Brady did not deserve the funeral he wanted.
Heart breaking. She pleaded with Brady for decades to tell her where her son was so she could bury him. He refused until the end. Tbh the guy deserved his corpse to be thrown in the trash.
Heather Cameron Brady deserved to be dumped in a ditch somewhere and left to rot. I hope that poor mother has found peace and her son in whatever comes after this life ❤️
My grandma and great grandma were murdered about 50 years ago when my dad was only 4 years old. Charles Manson was a suspect but the murders remain unsolved to this day.
Just to let you all know, Caitlin is just as much of a well-spoken and intelligent badass in real life. I was extremely fortunate to meet her when she came to Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge Ma last October. She’s actually the reason one of my best friends and I became close, we bonded over her videos. Hats off to you, Caitlin. Thanks to you in a Grief Woke Deathling. You make such a difference in the lives of so many. We love you. 🖤
Of the comments weren't so censored and moderated, plentyon others would bery likely be saying that she's annoyingly OverAnimated, and obnoxious. I would immediately walk away from a person like her, while she were speaking and flopping around, to prevent having to her ask why I was mean to her.
Well manson was really into nature, he didn't do any invoremental crimes now did he? Plus ashes are really good nutrients I'm pretty sure nature thanks him for his final act for nature.
@@sammygirl6910 In the photo we saw of Jason Freeman's father, he looked a lot like Manson, as well. I'm guessing that being a grandson rather than a son, the "family resemblance" was watered down a bit by whoever Jason's maternal relatives were.
Opinunate ted It happens. Do you remember that guy who claimed to be Hugh Hefner’s son? He looked JUST like him. Hef took him in, claimed him, the whole nine yards. He wasn’t.
They're not some autistic kids that believe in his idiotic philosophy, they're opportunists seeing profits to be made imo. ruclips.net/video/PyF7YmHYhYc/видео.html
They all have the same eyes, which I know isn’t weird because they’re related, but I always thought Charles Manson’s eyes were the creepiest looking part of him
treetoppy Michael Brunner is actually a pretty normal guy who lead a decent life. He never sought attention for being his son. Which is why I'm very surprised that he wanted to claim the body. But it's a lot of money so I can't fault him for him.
Sammy d we'll never know why he attempted it but I can only hope it was to be sure the remains were properly taken care of unlike what that woman wanted to do with the remains.
I thought this would happen. The "Family" had several children at the time they were arrested and according to Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor and author of "Helter Skelter," they had been taken by the state and adopted out. When I heard Manson died, I figured "relatives" and weird people would come out of the woodwork. Then I didn't hear anymore. Thanks for doing this video and informing us. Love your stuff ! And because of you, I'm drawing up a DNR document and will, naming my best friend. I trust him to do what I want (before and) after I'm dead. I used to not want to think about it, but you have given me a better understanding of my own death and what to expect. Really appreciate it!
Elise M Never heard of the Australian one. And Charlie and his people referred to themselves as a family, not Manson's family. But feel free to be so butthurt over an almost non-existent moniker.
Good for you, Linda! I also have the DNR, will and a trusted friend. I even paid in advance for my cremation.Is your friend also your Durable Power of Attorney and Medical Power of Attorney and officially recorded as your Executor? You may be able to get Advanced Directive/Living Will documents for FREE at your local hospital. I don't recall who told me but a good place to store those documents is the freezer part of your refrigerator. I was also told that people who handle emergency situations check in freezers for those important papers. Mine are right there with the broccoli and waffles!
Actually, I think there were two Australian "Families". And both were completely horrifying. As to why some people will take offense to nearly everything, I doubt I'll ever know, unless it stems from some feeling of superiority gained from playing misunderstood and self-rightous. Just a wild guess.
It would be morally fitting if whomever did receive profit from Manson's remains and/or 'collectibles' donated said profits to a charity to benefit victims and survivors of crimes.
When my father passed, I had to get him cremated because I was 16 and his estate was broke. When my mother and I went to pick up his remains, we had to take a look at them ... in a cardboard box was a plastic bag and the moment we opened it to take a peek, the wind blew and into our faces was the supposed ashen version of what was once daddy-o. Just as he did when alive, it seems he got the final word ...
thanks for sharing, here's an exchange for you... my gradaddy blew back into the boat and all over my family when we tried to put him into his fav crabbing spot :)
Now I'm just curious whether those two guys were his bio sons or not. One of them looks exactly like him! I also find it interesting that they're proud of who their dad was.
I think they both look a lot like him! The “grandson” not so much lol. Don’t get me wrong Charles Manson was a DESPICABLE human being but he was really good looking when he was younger and both of his “sons” were decent looking as well.
Closure and acceptance with hope that the association of their dad's actions and them won't hang over their heads forever. However, we're known by the sins of our fathers, so I doubt that.
The man Freeman, gave all memorabilia to the Zak Baggans Haunted Museum in Las Vegas. He changed his last name to FREEMAN because he wanted no ties to Manson hence when Manson died and he got rid of his belongings he became a “free” “man” and changed his name to Freeman because he didn’t have to live with the Stigma of being related to Manson at least that is the story the museum told during the tour.
[nods] i saw the episode where Mr. Baggans helped him get help from a local pastor to "rid himself of his connections to the past." he was wearing a shirt that "grandpa chuck" had given him one christmas. after he went through the ceremony and got baptised, the guy literally tore the shirt from his body and claimed he was free. i think he gave the shredded shirt to Mr. Baggans to dispose of, if i recall correctly. it was a strange episode. admittedly not one of Mr. Baggans strangest ones but still... ~that boy does some really weeeird sh*t on his shows. 0.o;~
The end of this story reminds me of a story my dad told me: he was in the Air Force in a helicopter deteachment - some big-wig general wanted his ashes scattered in the ocean near the base, so his remains were taken up in the helicopter and ceremouniously dumped out the door. Of course, the vortex of wind and water created by the helicopter blades promtly coated the outside of the helicopter with the dust creating a mud that stuck like glue. In the end, he was rinsed down the drain as the crew hosed off the copter - I guess it all went to the ocean eventually anyway, right?
I'm looking forward to artificial lens technology being perfected; since I'm a visual artist, I can't risk my vision, which is decent with glasses, for anything but perfection or better, with zero side effects, from any surgical fix. Actually, cybernetic eyes would be the absolute coolest, but I can settle for somewhat less.
I'm just relieved he was cremated, we do not need a Charles Manson grave site for tourism. (Sorry, I know you like famous graves) My college in Georgetown, Kentucky use to have issues with people swarming local grave/ghost story site "Tent Girl". Please do more law videos! This is so interesting!
i wouldve loved to pay respects to a grave one day and leave flowers, i wouldve loved to sit with his grave and play his music. He really had a nice voice, i often wonder what wouldve happened if he took off as an artist instead of a cult leader...
Zac Baggins (the fake ass ghost huinter) has his coffin in Vegas, you can pay your respects there alone with the Manson Blood painting on display at his death museum
Dogma you won’t find his grave. His ashes were spread along the Tule River. Only the locals know the area from seeing the video of his grandson spreading the ashes. Since then , there has been a huge fire and several rain storms. So....... his ashes have been washed out to sea!
@Lalogue Bulgaria, Eastern Europe. Why is it hard to believe? People here die and the next to kin inherits straightforward. Hard to believe is the story of Manson, but that's why he's a unique character.
Through personal experience with legal adoption, I can vouch that the adoptee no longer has a legal, family relationship with his birth family. You don't have to be famous to have this happen to you. It is the norm. Good work, Caitlyn.
There's no proof that any of them beyond Charlie Jr. is his biological child. The weirdo pictured at top right is no genetic relation at all. That's been proven.
Currently a resident of Kern County, it was creepy knowing that he was here,within the same valley (shivers). And I originally being from Los Angeles, where his horrific crimes took place. His horrible crimes have left a negative air in southern California. My only hope is that once Charles Manson shed his mortal coils, the scars of his actions that were left on this land can finally heal and be nothing more than a terrible memory. May all the victims rest in peace
Maybe a good tourism sign: "Need a Bathroom break? We encourage kissing in the woods, as Charles Manson's ashes are scattered here. Don't have to go yet? Grab an ice cold beverage at [local store] and feel free to check out [ some other point of interest] while nature gets to work. Please, no poo, as we will have to remove it."
@@k.morningstar7983 The Green Day song? I get the idea but no I wouldn’t want them associated with this monster. And I don’t think they would want to be either.
Just found your channel the other day, and I'm really liking it. I've got five topic suggestions: 1) body farms 2) the Soap Lady 3) sky burials 4) the New Orleans flood that filled the streets with coffins and corpses and is the reason they don't permit underground burials anymore (I'm unsure if this is the "Great Flood" of 1927 or an earlier one, but a delve into the coffins-popping-up-like-corks legend and current necropolis practices might be cool) 5) finding/using/decay of DNA for old crimes, historical/anthropological research
Whoops, just saw that you have something on body farms, though I certainly wouldn't scoff at a longer, detailed episode on what it actually teaches us about the stages of decomposition.
Being from Porterville, the town where he was cremated, word about Manson being in town spread fast. I don't know how true it is, but people said that the family tried to find a place to hold the service, but most turned them down. They went as far as Iowa looking for a home that would host them. Eventually someone recommend Porterville who finally offered to host the service and cremation. If this is true, or even not, is it the case that funeral homes might avoid high profile corpses, like Manson, to avoid publicity or being affiliated with the story of that person's life?
I am Not sure how to contact you, however, I am almost at my summit and will, not so distant future, will be a time that my second daughter will be in charge of my body. She knows 2 of 2 options. I want to be buried in a sea grass type coffin, or cremation in my chosen shroud,and untouched by the "middle man". We both are very interested in making more "consigrated" ground that saves nature just by the burial of a loved one. It just feels good to stop the growth of subdivisions . So would you email me the places that can be available for burial that would stop ever growing houses etc. I live in Idaho. Boise, to be exact. I look forward to your response. No hurry, I think, I am 56 and have time to organize my leaving of this place. Hence why I am contacting you. Thank You! Ctf.nina.gmail.com Nina Michelle Miller
The same thing happened here in bakersfield when everyone heard he was in the hospital. Crazy to think he was living in/around town before he passed...
@@ninamichelle62 There seems to be comparatively more interest in green burials lately and more people are offering "natural" burials where your body is not filled with formaldehyde, etc. you are basically wrapped in burlap or something similar and buried without a coffin, its done differently in many palaces and as you can imagine depending on where you live the health code determines the details they can offer but it sounds like something that may interest you. good luck on your journey hope you find what'swell enough of my rant right for you. Death shoul dbe talked about w loved ones it saves so much confusion and even potential guilt and second-guessing later on and come on, we all die, its not like its a surprise no matter how much some dont like ot discuss it.. the other extreme being obsessed w all things death lol hey there's a balance there somewhere. I hitnk its interesting and amazing how when the blood stops pumping this person or animal with dreams goals personality etc ceases to think and talk and be.. i can see why in past ages they thought the blood is life after watching someone wounded in battle bled out and get progressively weaker then die... crazy, huh? the universe holds more mysteries than we will ever be able to see in our lifetime let alone solve but look at the building blocks of knowledge from the past we are so arrogant as humans tot hink we can solve anything when you consider how little we know about even our own ocean yet its wonderful to study and with each study the truly wise know it only leads to more and biger questions and it exposes how little we truly know.. which is fine, its wonderful tht in human nature wiht its many flaws that there is this explorer and challenger imagine htose people way back in time braving hte seas hearing baout giant squids dead most likely if they were up in the shallower waters and the story gets more and more crazy and exaggerated with each drunken boastful telling until youre sure you will see sea monsters and sail off hte edge of hte world.. even if everyhting goes well youd be likely to die of scurvy in some un- sung about way instead of battle lol as if dyin gin battle is any more glamourus, truly... and these expeditions took YEARS years of no talking to your family at all because you couldnt just pick up a phone and call or skype etc...the world is more connected and in some ways seems smaller now but imagine the bravery or desperation i suppose if htye had to find new routes more food etc. and now so many of us are comparatively soooo lazy lol, its such a shame. here and there... well enough of my rant i went off on a huge long tangent there lol my point was just to check out natural burials and if you find a local mortuary/ funeral home that offers it, maybe write down all your questions and meet with them with your family? good luck to you and your daughter and family.
I just love her personality soooooo much! Thanks for making a hard subject like death so fun and funny to learn about!!!! I've been using RUclips for years and this is the only RUclips channel I am subscribed to.🖤💀🖤
My father was a funeral director/mortician in San Pedro for the final years of his life. I think he would have loved someone like you providing a no nonsense approach to death and dispelling misconceptions. He passed 30 years ago this year. I miss him dearly.
Although I couldn't stand Manson and felt so badly for the Tate family I do love the fact that Manson is history...side note my mom's ashes blew back into my brother in law's face when we scattered her ashes...no one seemed to notice but mom was probably laughing somewhere :) Thanks Caitin!!
Susan Sharp we also picked any unfortunately windy day to scatter my grandparents' ashes, but saved about a third of them. I had the task of filling cremation jewelry for all of my siblings. It was quite messy and I didn't know what to do afterward, as I felt guilty about washing them off of my hands but didn't want to keep them there either.
I was remembering also that just before meeting my family to scatter mom's ashes I decided to look at them and it's a good thing I did...there were HUGE long shards of bone in there and one of my sisters would have passed out if she had seen that....that was 20 years ago last Feb 20th...because of Caitlin I have decided to donate my body to science ...science has been a huge part of my life so it seemed appropriate :)
At 71 year's old I've witnessed and experienced the extreme craziness dealing with the families after death issues sadly. I'm stuck yet again trying to come up with another end of life legal document. I had a circle of trusted friends we as a group agreed to carry out each of our end of life wishes , written down legally. , problem is I'm the last one left. Now somewhat living a life in exile I'm stuck without the an idea for yet another end of life legal plan . I have been watching your interesting informative channel trying to find an answer to my problem. The answer is probably right in front of me old eyes so I'll keep listening watching all the great videos on your channel , thank you again .
jason freeman is from the town i live in, uhrichsville ohio, some of his family lives here (they changed their last names from manson) and they’re all very nice people, manson was almost buried in our cemetery, it was crazy
You know what I love? Your bangs, your glasses, and your straightforwardness (is that even a word?) about everything!! And, WTF??? Um, who would want his body, any way????
@askamortician She paid for my dinner! All thanks to you commenting/liking my comment I posted last week! Thanks for the free meal! Lol 😁💙✌ #deathlingforlife
Ooh I’m early! I just want to say, thank you for putting deathformation out there! I’ve been able to help people in my family and it’s helped me to move on from my best friend committing suicide as I wasn’t allowed to have anything to do with his funeral
I'm sorry that happened to you, I don't know what I would do if I was kept from that. I suppose my own work, grief, and small rituals, which sounds like exactly what you've done.
Ask A Mortician thank you so much, I truly appreciate it. It was really hard at first, I felt like there was no finality, he was there one day and gone the next. I couldn’t see him because his parents that he’d cut out of his life took over and wouldn’t tell me when anything was happening. I still don’t know where he’s buried
Jas Vertkas Stories like this are so infuriating, and sadly all too common. Like, how dare they keep someone in the dark about their son's funeral arrangements who's been more like family to him than they'd been!
Fascinating topic, a D excellent analysis and explanation of a confusing situation. *Some questions : 1) what would you set as the maximum time limit for refrigeration of a corpse prior to embalming? 2) In the unlikely circumstance of a protracted legal dispute, would it ever be permitted to freeze an unembalmed corpse during a extended custody battles 3) If your funeral home had been requested by the family, would you have provided professional services for the Charles Manson corpse?
@@driverslqqk7940 Let's play a game. What state do you live in, and how much do you wanna bet that their laws regarding the disposition of a corpse with an unclear line of disposition are every bit as confusing, and would take just as long to work through the court?
amy pease i definitely don't find him cool but I do find him interesting. How he managed to actually get the followers and convince them to do what they did is very interesting to me. So in the past i have studied a bit about him yes he was a evil and twisted person but its the fascination of how he could be like that is why most people are interested in him same gos for people like Hitter, Pol Pot, Ted Bundy and the Columbine kids.
Blaise Payne yeah. I know all about all the despots of the world too. That comment was in reference to the people who would be willing to pay an arm and a leg for some "cool signed Manson stuff". Research is different than "Dude! I got this awesome photo of MANSON!!! And he SIGNED the back of it!!! Bro! Did you know Squeaky Fromme actually tried to CUT the baby out of Sharon Tate!! Duuude!". I believe Caitlin's word for it was "murderabilia". Way diff than trying to educate oneself.
amypease ++ nothing cool about a sorry pos like manson. i was 14 in 1969 and remember the press coverage of his followers and their dirty work in the murders. the ones that are alive should die in prison. a bunch of sick sob's.
I love your channel so much, you make me think about death and the fact it isn't as flipping scary as I had made it out to be for a better part of my 32 years on this rock. You have made me think about what I want for and from my death and subsequently funeral. Also my husbands and finding out what he wants. You have made something very dark and unknown for me and turned it into something I can not only think about now but also come to terms with. While I hope I'll be here for many decades to come I can live knowing I'm not terrified of knowing it will come to an end or what if anything happens next. So thank you for sharing the good death to everyone.
Caitlin hello. You absolutely crack me up. I discovered your videos on u tube yesterday. My daughter and i watched them off and on all day yesterday. I will watch all i can find. The content is different but your humor and the way you slam people when they deserve it makes thw video. And i like to learn. I could never be a mortician but the processes are interesting to me. You pop humor in at the perfect moments. Well done.
Kudos to the "grandson" for at least ensuring a proper funeral. It may have been more than Manson deserved, but at least it demonstrated that someone connected to Manson had a modicum of decency.
This REMAINS (heh) to be seen. I want to believe the best, but there is talks of a documentary and much more. I'll reserve judgement for now and keep you updated.
I was definitely happy to hear he did the right thing... I was worried he was just lying hoping to score the remains for profit. Honestly I feel as if the son's were also there to make sure the right thing was done atleast I hope so... I'd imagine they were all apart of the funeral in the end.
I remember hearing about a couple people that studied the brains of killers who were trying to buy his brain. They wanted to dissect it and study it to see if they could find any abnormalities. To be honest it would be interesting to know if there was any noticeable difference between his and the brain of a average person.
You are such a genuine lady that I can see already, I'm going to enjoy being subscribed here and I look forward to learning. I hope one day to help get over my phobia of dying. Like, when I'm in a depressed mood I don't get scared about dying (often want it to happen), but normally death scares me. I know it'll happen, it's just how, that's the bit that scares me.
yeah, his real biological son committed suicide because of who his father was. He was a good guy who was adopted out to a wonderful family and did not deserve the judgement that was thrown at him - we dont choose our parents
This, along with your video on Osama Bin Laden's remains, reminds me of the Jonestown incident. Jonestown was located in Guyana, but their government didn't want to have the remains because to them it was fundamentally an American problem, and so the bodies were brought to Delaware to be processed and identified. Some of the bodies were claimed by their families, but they only claimed a little over half of the victims. Delaware refused to keep the bodies, and so a cemetary in California offered to take them. The remaining 410 victims of Jonestown are buried in Evergreen Cemetary in Oakland, California. What's most interesting to me about the bodies is how there were the people who refused to properly dispose of the dead. The prevailing idea seems to be that whenever one accepts a dead body, one accepts who the deceased was as part of their community. We take care of our dead, not other people's dead. In addition, the bodies were sitting in the forest for a while, and began to suffer decomposition. They began to look inhuman, so it was easy to see them as such. Inhuman creatures who were capable of violent acts and moved together as one being, with Jim Jones at the head. Interestingly, Jim Jones was cremated by the government as soon as possible and tossed into the sea, partly out of fear that fanatics would flock to his gravesite. Most of the dead were victims, a third of them were children. It's very easy to other the dead of a tragedy like Jonestown, but at the end of it all, we're all human, no matter what it is we did in life. Everyone deserves to be properly taken care of in death, because at the end of it all, the bones of a monster and a saint bear no difference. Edit: Caitlyn talks about Jonestown on the podcast Death In The Afternoon, episode 4!
@Kamila Kocourková = My god you're ignorant! There are several bodies buried around the Spahn Ranch according to ex family members that Charlie killed in order to "show them how" to kill. But after he got out of jail that last time he did not want to go back so he brainwashed and threatened the others to do the killings for him. Charlie and Tex had a homosexual affair and Charlie forced Tex's loyalty by telling him he would send letters to his parents and friends telling them about him and Tex. That's why Tex was so "loyal"...and why he wrangled the females and made sure the murders were carried out. Tex was terrified of his family and friends finding out he'd had sex on more than one occasion with another man, Charlie. But you do research on the bodies in the desert and why the state won't allow people to look for them. Listen to the hours and hours of interviews from Charlie and the family. If you believe that he wasn't a serial killer, you're a damned fool.
I’m so glad you shed light on what happened to Manson’s corpse, however I find it very bizarre and fitting he had to get one last laugh when the ashes blew in people’s faces! You rock, Oh Queen of death.💀💀💀💀
The 2 sons adopted out do resemble Manson. My understanding is that the state had him on several cumulative life sentences. As he only completed one, the state could have held his body as it still had a couple more left to serve.
Charles' funeral and his cremation was in my hometown, Porterville CA! It's a very small town, so we were all shocked that his they would choose our city. We also have no idea where exactly his ashes were spread. Since the funeral home kept it very discreet we had no idea.
Your videos are interesting and the perfect start of my weekend. I must tell you that because of you I have made sure that my closest love ones knows what I want when I die. Which is a good thing since I live abroad. My partner now knows about aquamation. Thank you so much for reminding me and make me do this.
erin h Perhaps the two alleged children, the grandchild, as well as Manson's known pen pal. He also had a women who wished to marry him while he was behind bars (their marriage was denied) as well as any edgy followers and "believers" he has. Aka. That smelly kid you had in class who said he can talk to wolves and is a vampire.
Hi, i'm relatively new here just found the channel a few days ago n i jus gotta say i'm enjoying the videos. You make such informative and fun contend and considering its alll about death and such proceedings as come after i must say; job well done👍🏿
I work for a storage unit facility here in Texas. We auctioned off a unit. The new buyers returned human ashes that was left in the unit. I did find the family and return them to the family. Strange day but I hear it is more common than you think.
Never too young to be prepared. Of course, if heaven forbid, something fatal should happen to you, your parents would have the final say, I'm sure your wishes would be considered, if they were known.
You know, the majority of crimes and wars are started because men get offended, angry, or intensely competitive. Emotional, if you will. And people say women are ruled by their emotions. 🙄
I knew California law was a bit nuts and I assumed that there would be people out there who would claim his body and fight over it but damn. Can't Californians do anything without it involving endless tired drama? Seriously. PS Very interesting video though. You make a damn good case for making sure your wishes are well and properly documented.
Homebase LMAO!! 😂 Well at least you're honest! And given you all managed to use it to become the entertainment capital of the world I guess it isn't all bad.
My father was a devoted Deathling, and he passed away on Monday. I thought of you while the funeral arrangements were being made.
2 years late but rip.
Thank you for your sympathy. I appreciate it greatly.
So sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace 🙏
Thank you. I greatly appreciate your sympathy.
@@ladyhaha7548 2 years late, but condolences
My mom went to prison with Lesley, one of the manson sisters. They were friends in prison. She was nice, my mom says, and that was the scariest bit.
What did your mother go to jail for then?
Your mom is telling stories like most jail birds do.
That's a big claim to throw out there. Can you please provide some proof?
If you want to get technical...Lesley didn't actually kill anyone. She was there of course. Of the seven Tate-LaBianca victims, Tex Watson killed 6 of them. Patricia Krenwinkel (corrected, originally said Adkins) killed Abigail Folger. I think Lesley is the one who stabbed Mrs. LaBianca after she was dead, still horrible and unthinkable and I can't fathom being so brainwashed as to take part in ritualistic murders. (The arrogant reply to this is incorrect. I fact checked later to make sure.)
@Smittycat1234 - Susan Atkins was the one who killed Sharon Tate and laughed in her face when Sharon begged her to save her baby. She may have stabbed Gabby but Tex was the one who chased her out onto the lawn and finished her off. Jeez doesn't anybody watch the damned interviews?!? Atkins admits these things right out of her own mouth!!
Child killer Ian Brady had his funeral last year in the UK. There was a legal battle on what to do with his corpse because he wished for his ashes to be scattered on the moors where he murdered the children (and where the remains of one still remain missing). It was decided that he was to be cremated without a ceremony and his ashes scattered at sea. The court decided this was the best way to dispose of Brady while respecting the victims' families. That one child left unfound on the moors was never given a proper funeral by his family (his mother died just a couple of years ago) so Brady did not deserve the funeral he wanted.
Heather Cameron oh that made me so sad. The poor mother never got real closure before she passed away. 😭
Heather Cameron Was that the murderer Black Mirrior based the episode White Bear off of? 🤔
Heart breaking. She pleaded with Brady for decades to tell her where her son was so she could bury him. He refused until the end. Tbh the guy deserved his corpse to be thrown in the trash.
It's a possibility.
Heather Cameron Brady deserved to be dumped in a ditch somewhere and left to rot. I hope that poor mother has found peace and her son in whatever comes after this life ❤️
I feel like Charles Manson probably made multiple wills so that even when he died he could cause hell one last time
I believe it
That sounds exactly like what he'd do.....
What does he have to leave anyone besides his corpse?
Ikr 😂😂
I hope this comment gets 666 likes and it stays like that
My grandma and great grandma were murdered about 50 years ago when my dad was only 4 years old. Charles Manson was a suspect but the murders remain unsolved to this day.
That's horrible I am sorry
03/29/2020
Lindsey
I am so truely sorry for your losses. Why do you believe Manson was behind the murders?
Just to let you all know, Caitlin is just as much of a well-spoken and intelligent badass in real life. I was extremely fortunate to meet her when she came to Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge Ma last October. She’s actually the reason one of my best friends and I became close, we bonded over her videos. Hats off to you, Caitlin. Thanks to you in a Grief Woke Deathling. You make such a difference in the lives of so many. We love you. 🖤
Aneesa Ali OH JEEZ WHO PISSED IN YOUR CHEERIOS. Seriously. This sounds so damn bitter.
@@christystewart4567 Sounds like either she OR HE already did. Lmao.
Of the comments weren't so censored and moderated, plentyon others would bery likely be saying that she's annoyingly OverAnimated, and obnoxious. I would immediately walk away from a person like her, while she were speaking and flopping around, to prevent having to her ask why I was mean to her.
That poor forest didn’t deserve to be desecrated like that
Ikr! I mourn the forest. 😪 Poor baby.
Underrated comment my gal
Well manson was really into nature, he didn't do any invoremental crimes now did he? Plus ashes are really good nutrients I'm pretty sure nature thanks him for his final act for nature.
Its ok, the forest will burn in the next 5 years anyway
they should build a monument if a race war would have started cal would be nice
All four men have them CRAZY EYES.
Demonic possession
Fun fact, it's called sanpaku - when the whites below or above the irises are visible
Just Me Japanese
I didn't really see it with the grandson, but Pooh Bear and the other one have his look.
@@sammygirl6910 In the photo we saw of Jason Freeman's father, he looked a lot like Manson, as well. I'm guessing that being a grandson rather than a son, the "family resemblance" was watered down a bit by whoever Jason's maternal relatives were.
the two claiming to be his sons look exactly like him, they have his crazy eyes
thats exactly what i was thinking!
The one pictured at the top has been proven not to be genetically related to Manson.
errka: One does look EXACTLY like him. The other not so much.
deaconsmom2000 which one?
Opinunate ted It happens. Do you remember that guy who claimed to be Hugh Hefner’s son? He looked JUST like him. Hef took him in, claimed him, the whole nine yards. He wasn’t.
Imagine adopting a kid, finding out he's Charles Manson's son, and then he's actually proud of it.
kylee_97 return policy? 🤦♀️
Raven_of_ZoSo oh shut up.
They're not some autistic kids that believe in his idiotic philosophy, they're opportunists seeing profits to be made imo.
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@@raven_of_zoso455as the daughter of Free Masons and a member of the female equivalent Order of the Eastern Stars you couldnt be anymore wrong
How did he find out any way? I'm pretty sure it would've had to have been a closed adoption.
It's unsettling how many of the people trying to claim rights LOOK like Charles Manson. It's really eerie how menacing they all seemed...
treetoppy I think they might have intentionally try to look like him with their hair and beards.
If they are related, it's a really strong resemblance...if it isn't, it's super coincidental.
They all have the same eyes, which I know isn’t weird because they’re related, but I always thought Charles Manson’s eyes were the creepiest looking part of him
treetoppy Michael Brunner is actually a pretty normal guy who lead a decent life. He never sought attention for being his son. Which is why I'm very surprised that he wanted to claim the body. But it's a lot of money so I can't fault him for him.
Sammy d we'll never know why he attempted it but I can only hope it was to be sure the remains were properly taken care of unlike what that woman wanted to do with the remains.
I thought this would happen. The "Family" had several children at the time they were arrested and according to Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor and author of "Helter Skelter," they had been taken by the state and adopted out. When I heard Manson died, I figured "relatives" and weird people would come out of the woodwork. Then I didn't hear anymore. Thanks for doing this video and informing us. Love your stuff !
And because of you, I'm drawing up a DNR document and will, naming my best friend. I trust him to do what I want (before and) after I'm dead. I used to not want to think about it, but you have given me a better understanding of my own death and what to expect. Really appreciate it!
Linda Ciccoli They were “The Manson Family,” not to be confused with a cult in Australia that were called “The Family.”
Elise M Never heard of the Australian one. And Charlie and his people referred to themselves as a family, not Manson's family. But feel free to be so butthurt over an almost non-existent moniker.
Good for you, Linda! I also have the DNR, will and a trusted friend. I even paid in advance for my cremation.Is your friend also your Durable Power of Attorney and Medical Power of Attorney and officially recorded as your Executor? You may be able to get Advanced Directive/Living Will documents for FREE at your local hospital. I don't recall who told me but a good place to store those documents is the freezer part of your refrigerator. I was also told that people who handle emergency situations check in freezers for those important papers. Mine are right there with the broccoli and waffles!
Linda Ciccoli I wasn’t “butthurt,” I was just stating a fact to not cause confusion. I don’t know why you took offence to that.
Actually, I think there were two Australian "Families". And both were completely horrifying. As to why some people will take offense to nearly everything, I doubt I'll ever know, unless it stems from some feeling of superiority gained from playing misunderstood and self-rightous. Just a wild guess.
This is unrelated but you give me hair envy! It's just soooo shiny!
VeganVampire I was thinking the same thing.
VeganVampire I know!
Amina Jane Ishaq She should be a hair model. I would buy whatever she is selling.
Shamdoom and conDIEtioner
(Leaving a comment to get notified in case she posts her hair secrets.
...It's selling your soul to the devil isn't it? It always is.)
It would be morally fitting if whomever did receive profit from Manson's remains and/or 'collectibles' donated said profits to a charity to benefit victims and survivors of crimes.
Nah morally they wouldn't want it
* whoever
But you know they didn’t do that sadly
When my father passed, I had to get him cremated because I was 16 and his estate was broke. When my mother and I went to pick up his remains, we had to take a look at them ... in a cardboard box was a plastic bag and the moment we opened it to take a peek, the wind blew and into our faces was the supposed ashen version of what was once daddy-o. Just as he did when alive, it seems he got the final word ...
thanks for sharing, here's an exchange for you... my gradaddy blew back into the boat and all over my family when we tried to put him into his fav crabbing spot :)
As a FHA the creamated reminds flying on you is common.When opening the oven.
I feel terrible for laughing at this, but "the supposed ashen version of what was once daddy-o" actually made me spit some water onto my screen 😂
Wow Disposition of a Corpse sounds like a cool Metalic Rock Band 🤘🤘🤘
Now I'm just curious whether those two guys were his bio sons or not. One of them looks exactly like him!
I also find it interesting that they're proud of who their dad was.
mere j I might not be so much pride as it is closure.
I think they both look a lot like him! The “grandson” not so much lol. Don’t get me wrong Charles Manson was a DESPICABLE human being but he was really good looking when he was younger and both of his “sons” were decent looking as well.
Closure and acceptance with hope that the association of their dad's actions and them won't hang over their heads forever. However, we're known by the sins of our fathers, so I doubt that.
The phrase "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" comes immediately to mind....
Way to judge someone you don't even know. Rude af
The man Freeman, gave all memorabilia to the Zak Baggans Haunted Museum in Las Vegas. He changed his last name to FREEMAN because he wanted no ties to Manson hence when Manson died and he got rid of his belongings he became a “free” “man” and changed his name to Freeman because he didn’t have to live with the Stigma of being related to Manson at least that is the story the museum told during the tour.
[nods] i saw the episode where Mr. Baggans helped him get help from a local pastor to "rid himself of his connections to the past." he was wearing a shirt that "grandpa chuck" had given him one christmas. after he went through the ceremony and got baptised, the guy literally tore the shirt from his body and claimed he was free. i think he gave the shredded shirt to Mr. Baggans to dispose of, if i recall correctly. it was a strange episode.
admittedly not one of Mr. Baggans strangest ones but still...
~that boy does some really weeeird sh*t on his shows. 0.o;~
Huh. Better than him being one of those ridiculous Sovereign Citizen people who call themselves Freeman
By contrast, they had a doozy of a time figuring out what to do with the corpse of Richard Ramirez because no one would take it.
They should have flushed it down the sewer.
The end of this story reminds me of a story my dad told me: he was in the Air Force in a helicopter deteachment - some big-wig general wanted his ashes scattered in the ocean near the base, so his remains were taken up in the helicopter and ceremouniously dumped out the door. Of course, the vortex of wind and water created by the helicopter blades promtly coated the outside of the helicopter with the dust creating a mud that stuck like glue. In the end, he was rinsed down the drain as the crew hosed off the copter - I guess it all went to the ocean eventually anyway, right?
Big Lebowski vibes!
Hmm... maybe people should mix water with the ashes first before dumping. Scattering just doesn't seem like it works like you'd want.
Congrats on the laser eye surgery, btw, Caitlin. I’m jealous of your newfound 20/20 vision. ✌️🤓
Ikr! I'd love to just wake up and be able to see with just my eyeballs! ❤
Danielle Fromme try getting a corpses corneas, like me, and you'll never be blind (ish) again. X
I'm looking forward to artificial lens technology being perfected; since I'm a visual artist, I can't risk my vision, which is decent with glasses, for anything but perfection or better, with zero side effects, from any surgical fix. Actually, cybernetic eyes would be the absolute coolest, but I can settle for somewhat less.
Awww, but she looks so adorable in those glasses! I guess she could always wear them for _fashion_ .
neuralmute ehhh? Laser eye surgery is preeeetty safe, surprisingly lol.
I'm just relieved he was cremated, we do not need a Charles Manson grave site for tourism. (Sorry, I know you like famous graves) My college in Georgetown, Kentucky use to have issues with people swarming local grave/ghost story site "Tent Girl".
Please do more law videos! This is so interesting!
i wouldve loved to pay respects to a grave one day and leave flowers, i wouldve loved to sit with his grave and play his music. He really had a nice voice, i often wonder what wouldve happened if he took off as an artist instead of a cult leader...
Jessica Hisle :) Kentucky pride!
Zac Baggins (the fake ass ghost huinter) has his coffin in Vegas, you can pay your respects there alone with the Manson Blood painting on display at his death museum
Dogma you won’t find his grave. His ashes were spread along the Tule River. Only the locals know the area from seeing the video of his grandson spreading the ashes. Since then , there has been a huge fire and several rain storms. So....... his ashes have been washed out to sea!
@@TheMinkmermaid get better idols
People, I beg of you, please, please have a will. It will make life so much easier for those you leave behind.
MissMargaret
I have no one to leave.
Not all countries have laws for will, at mine it's unheard of. We hear about it only in American movies....
@@CelesticaDemonix what country do you live in? In Europe it's pretty common too
@@StanSwan maybe a charity.
@Lalogue Bulgaria, Eastern Europe. Why is it hard to believe? People here die and the next to kin inherits straightforward. Hard to believe is the story of Manson, but that's why he's a unique character.
Decedent
Spouse
Kids
Parents
Siblings
Carl
All seems to check out.
My cat is just waiting to eat me. I can tell by the look on his face.
Through personal experience with legal adoption, I can vouch that the adoptee no longer has a legal, family relationship with his birth family. You don't have to be famous to have this happen to you. It is the norm.
Good work, Caitlyn.
But then, this begs the question, how did the grandson prove he was the grandson?
Damn Manson's kids even have crazy in their eyes like their dad.
There's no proof that any of them beyond Charlie Jr. is his biological child. The weirdo pictured at top right is no genetic relation at all. That's been proven.
Currently a resident of Kern County, it was creepy knowing that he was here,within the same valley (shivers). And I originally being from Los Angeles, where his horrific crimes took place. His horrible crimes have left a negative air in southern California. My only hope is that once Charles Manson shed his mortal coils, the scars of his actions that were left on this land can finally heal and be nothing more than a terrible memory. May all the victims rest in peace
The adoption info was very interesting, I've never thought about that aspect.
"The cremated remains blew back in the faces of the gathered mourners"
Ala The Big Lebowski 😂😂😂
Just because the Mansons didn't sign the Port Huron statement doesn't make them saps, man.
Fuck it man, let's go bowling.
Me: uses phone as phone prop
This gal: 00:25 uses random item in arms reach, reacts “the hell did I just grab” and rolls with it
I never even noticed that. Now that you've pointed it out, I love how she even seems to briefly double take before just like, going with it. XD
I love your videos I can't get enough. Thanks for what you do.
Anyone else happy Caitlin's channel is at almost half a million
Eyy it's two years later. But over a million
@@a_potat Ha!! It is now 3 yrs later and Caitlin's Channel has grown to over 1.7 million!!!😨😰😨😱🐰🐯🐇🐻
@@miketalas7998 ITs really amazing to see the growth
Maybe the state should have confiscated the estate to prevent profiting from crime.
There has already been great profit made from the Mason Family. Including the estate. Charles has written novels, etc.
Veronica there have been for decades laws that keep murderers from Profiting - Stephanie
@@veronicasuestarlite4080 He wrote novels? I wouldn't buy one.
"just take it awayheeeeeeee" 😂😂😂
Charles Manson’s funeral was held in my hometown of Porterville Ca, his ashes scattered in the local Tule River. Not a fact we’re proud of
It's just carbon.
And the Tule River is Porterville's water source. Y'all got some Charles Manson in you now.
Maybe a good tourism sign: "Need a Bathroom break? We encourage kissing in the woods, as Charles Manson's ashes are scattered here. Don't have to go yet? Grab an ice cold beverage at [local store] and feel free to check out [ some other point of interest] while nature gets to work. Please, no poo, as we will have to remove it."
MY first thought when I heard of his death was “Good Riddance.”
Same with all of the Manson family that have died, will die. To hell with all of them.
Same!
also the title of the song that ought to have played at his funeral
@@k.morningstar7983 The Green Day song? I get the idea but no I wouldn’t want them associated with this monster. And I don’t think they would want to be either.
Just found your channel the other day, and I'm really liking it. I've got five topic suggestions:
1) body farms
2) the Soap Lady
3) sky burials
4) the New Orleans flood that filled the streets with coffins and corpses and is the reason they don't permit underground burials anymore (I'm unsure if this is the "Great Flood" of 1927 or an earlier one, but a delve into the coffins-popping-up-like-corks legend and current necropolis practices might be cool)
5) finding/using/decay of DNA for old crimes, historical/anthropological research
Whoops, just saw that you have something on body farms, though I certainly wouldn't scoff at a longer, detailed episode on what it actually teaches us about the stages of decomposition.
Being from Porterville, the town where he was cremated, word about Manson being in town spread fast. I don't know how true it is, but people said that the family tried to find a place to hold the service, but most turned them down. They went as far as Iowa looking for a home that would host them. Eventually someone recommend Porterville who finally offered to host the service and cremation. If this is true, or even not, is it the case that funeral homes might avoid high profile corpses, like Manson, to avoid publicity or being affiliated with the story of that person's life?
Good question!
I am Not sure how to contact you, however, I am almost at my summit and will, not so distant future, will be a time that my second daughter will be in charge of my body. She knows 2 of 2 options. I want to be buried in a sea grass type coffin, or cremation in my chosen shroud,and untouched by the "middle man". We both are very interested in making more "consigrated" ground that saves nature just by the burial of a loved one. It just feels good to stop the growth of subdivisions . So would you email me the places that can be available for burial that would stop ever growing houses etc. I live in Idaho. Boise, to be exact. I look forward to your response. No hurry, I think, I am 56 and have time to organize my leaving of this place. Hence why I am contacting you.
Thank You!
Ctf.nina.gmail.com
Nina Michelle Miller
The same thing happened here in bakersfield when everyone heard he was in the hospital. Crazy to think he was living in/around town before he passed...
@@ninamichelle62 There seems to be comparatively more interest in green burials lately and more people are offering "natural" burials where your body is not filled with formaldehyde, etc. you are basically wrapped in burlap or something similar and buried without a coffin, its done differently in many palaces and as you can imagine depending on where you live the health code determines the details they can offer but it sounds like something that may interest you. good luck on your journey hope you find what'swell enough of my rant right for you. Death shoul dbe talked about w loved ones it saves so much confusion and even potential guilt and second-guessing later on and come on, we all die, its not like its a surprise no matter how much some dont like ot discuss it.. the other extreme being obsessed w all things death lol hey there's a balance there somewhere. I hitnk its interesting and amazing how when the blood stops pumping this person or animal with dreams goals personality etc ceases to think and talk and be.. i can see why in past ages they thought the blood is life after watching someone wounded in battle bled out and get progressively weaker then die... crazy, huh? the universe holds more mysteries than we will ever be able to see in our lifetime let alone solve but look at the building blocks of knowledge from the past we are so arrogant as humans tot hink we can solve anything when you consider how little we know about even our own ocean yet its wonderful to study and with each study the truly wise know it only leads to more and biger questions and it exposes how little we truly know.. which is fine, its wonderful tht in human nature wiht its many flaws that there is this explorer and challenger imagine htose people way back in time braving hte seas hearing baout giant squids dead most likely if they were up in the shallower waters and the story gets more and more crazy and exaggerated with each drunken boastful telling until youre sure you will see sea monsters and sail off hte edge of hte world.. even if everyhting goes well youd be likely to die of scurvy in some un- sung about way instead of battle lol as if dyin gin battle is any more glamourus, truly... and these expeditions took YEARS years of no talking to your family at all because you couldnt just pick up a phone and call or skype etc...the world is more connected and in some ways seems smaller now but imagine the bravery or desperation i suppose if htye had to find new routes more food etc. and now so many of us are comparatively soooo lazy lol, its such a shame. here and there... well enough of my rant i went off on a huge long tangent there lol my point was just to check out natural burials and if you find a local mortuary/ funeral home that offers it, maybe write down all your questions and meet with them with your family? good luck to you and your daughter and family.
I used to live in Porterville and I was trying to figure out why the service would be held there. It didn't make any sense to me.
I just love her personality soooooo much! Thanks for making a hard subject like death so fun and funny to learn about!!!! I've been using RUclips for years and this is the only RUclips channel I am subscribed to.🖤💀🖤
My father was a funeral director/mortician in San Pedro for the final years of his life. I think he would have loved someone like you providing a no nonsense approach to death and dispelling misconceptions. He passed 30 years ago this year. I miss him dearly.
Always fun to see words like Bonkers in video titles
Although I couldn't stand Manson and felt so badly for the Tate family I do love the fact that Manson is history...side note my mom's ashes blew back into my brother in law's face when we scattered her ashes...no one seemed to notice but mom was probably laughing somewhere :) Thanks Caitin!!
Ahaha!!!! That's funny
Susan Sharp we also picked any unfortunately windy day to scatter my grandparents' ashes, but saved about a third of them. I had the task of filling cremation jewelry for all of my siblings. It was quite messy and I didn't know what to do afterward, as I felt guilty about washing them off of my hands but didn't want to keep them there either.
I was remembering also that just before meeting my family to scatter mom's ashes I decided to look at them and it's a good thing I did...there were HUGE long shards of bone in there and one of my sisters would have passed out if she had seen that....that was 20 years ago last Feb 20th...because of Caitlin I have decided to donate my body to science ...science has been a huge part of my life so it seemed appropriate :)
It certainly was :)
Mausoleum, did you mean?
you are the best Caitlin love you from south africa
Unitato hey, I thought I was the only Afrikaner that watches Ask A Mortitian! To be fair it is VERY interesting.
Another Afrikaner from South Africa over here!🙋🏼😎🇿🇦❤️
What about us rooineks, hey?
Me too!! 🎉
At 71 year's old I've witnessed and experienced the extreme craziness dealing with the families after death issues sadly. I'm stuck yet again trying to come up with another end of life legal document. I had a circle of trusted friends we as a group agreed to carry out each of our end of life wishes , written down legally. , problem is I'm the last one left. Now somewhat living a life in exile I'm stuck without the an idea for yet another end of life legal plan . I have been watching your interesting informative channel trying to find an answer to my problem. The answer is probably right in front of me old eyes so I'll keep listening watching all the great videos on your channel , thank you again .
jason freeman is from the town i live in, uhrichsville ohio, some of his family lives here (they changed their last names from manson) and they’re all very nice people, manson was almost buried in our cemetery, it was crazy
You know what I love? Your bangs, your glasses, and your straightforwardness (is that even a word?) about everything!! And, WTF??? Um, who would want his body, any way????
@askamortician She paid for my dinner! All thanks to you commenting/liking my comment I posted last week! Thanks for the free meal! Lol 😁💙✌ #deathlingforlife
patrick lail ++ t-bone steak lightly cremated? yummy
david wells its possible. 😁
Ooh I’m early!
I just want to say, thank you for putting deathformation out there! I’ve been able to help people in my family and it’s helped me to move on from my best friend committing suicide as I wasn’t allowed to have anything to do with his funeral
I'm sorry that happened to you, I don't know what I would do if I was kept from that. I suppose my own work, grief, and small rituals, which sounds like exactly what you've done.
Ask A Mortician thank you so much, I truly appreciate it. It was really hard at first, I felt like there was no finality, he was there one day and gone the next. I couldn’t see him because his parents that he’d cut out of his life took over and wouldn’t tell me when anything was happening. I still don’t know where he’s buried
That sounds so traumatic, I'm sorry you had to go through that. I just wanted to voice my support for you. I hope you find out his resting place
Jas Vertkas Stories like this are so infuriating, and sadly all too common. Like, how dare they keep someone in the dark about their son's funeral arrangements who's been more like family to him than they'd been!
I found my friend by calling local cemeteries and asking if she was buried there. They were really helpful. I hope you get the closure you need.
the moral of this story? Make sure to leave EVERYTHING in writing.
And witnessed
Don't torture your next of kin with beurocurcy...
I love your sense of humor. Makes your stories much better.
Fascinating topic, a D excellent analysis and explanation of a confusing situation. *Some questions : 1) what would you set as the maximum time limit for refrigeration of a corpse prior to embalming? 2) In the unlikely circumstance of a protracted legal dispute, would it ever be permitted to freeze an unembalmed corpse during a extended custody battles 3) If your funeral home had been requested by the family, would you have provided professional services for the Charles Manson corpse?
Yeah that could only happen in California there are a bunch of confused morons.
@@driverslqqk7940 Let's play a game. What state do you live in, and how much do you wanna bet that their laws regarding the disposition of a corpse with an unclear line of disposition are every bit as confusing, and would take just as long to work through the court?
You know what's sad, the public DOESN'T have selective memory, they know exactly what he did and that's exactly why they think he's "so cool".
amy pease i definitely don't find him cool but I do find him interesting. How he managed to actually get the followers and convince them to do what they did is very interesting to me. So in the past i have studied a bit about him yes he was a evil and twisted person but its the fascination of how he could be like that is why most people are interested in him same gos for people like Hitter, Pol Pot, Ted Bundy and the Columbine kids.
Blaise Payne yeah. I know all about all the despots of the world too. That comment was in reference to the people who would be willing to pay an arm and a leg for some "cool signed Manson stuff". Research is different than "Dude! I got this awesome photo of MANSON!!! And he SIGNED the back of it!!! Bro! Did you know Squeaky Fromme actually tried to CUT the baby out of Sharon Tate!! Duuude!". I believe Caitlin's word for it was "murderabilia". Way diff than trying to educate oneself.
amypease ++ nothing cool about a sorry pos like manson. i was 14 in 1969 and remember the press coverage of his followers and their dirty work in the murders. the ones that are alive should die in prison. a bunch of sick sob's.
david wells yeah, don't need to tell me. I said it was sad that people thought he was cool.
mmm nope!
I love your channel so much, you make me think about death and the fact it isn't as flipping scary as I had made it out to be for a better part of my 32 years on this rock. You have made me think about what I want for and from my death and subsequently funeral. Also my husbands and finding out what he wants. You have made something very dark and unknown for me and turned it into something I can not only think about now but also come to terms with. While I hope I'll be here for many decades to come I can live knowing I'm not terrified of knowing it will come to an end or what if anything happens next. So thank you for sharing the good death to everyone.
It's so nice watching someone talk about something they care so much about, love your channel
Caitlin hello. You absolutely crack me up. I discovered your videos on u tube yesterday. My daughter and i watched them off and on all day yesterday. I will watch all i can find. The content is different but your humor and the way you slam people when they deserve it makes thw video. And i like to learn. I could never be a mortician but the processes are interesting to me. You pop humor in at the perfect moments. Well done.
Kudos to the "grandson" for at least ensuring a proper funeral. It may have been more than Manson deserved, but at least it demonstrated that someone connected to Manson had a modicum of decency.
They need to salt the ground he was buried in so nothing ever grows there.
The grandson's response would suggest that's not necessary. Bad seed in this case has resulted in at least decent fruit, methinks.
Or maybe it's just an attempt to cash in? Way more than he deserves.
This REMAINS (heh) to be seen. I want to believe the best, but there is talks of a documentary and much more. I'll reserve judgement for now and keep you updated.
I was definitely happy to hear he did the right thing... I was worried he was just lying hoping to score the remains for profit. Honestly I feel as if the son's were also there to make sure the right thing was done atleast I hope so... I'd imagine they were all apart of the funeral in the end.
As morbid as this was it was quite interesting as to how the courts handle this situation. Caitlins presentation: 🏆🥇
I remember hearing about a couple people that studied the brains of killers who were trying to buy his brain. They wanted to dissect it and study it to see if they could find any abnormalities. To be honest it would be interesting to know if there was any noticeable difference between his and the brain of a average person.
You are such a genuine lady that I can see already, I'm going to enjoy being subscribed here and I look forward to learning.
I hope one day to help get over my phobia of dying. Like, when I'm in a depressed mood I don't get scared about dying (often want it to happen), but normally death scares me. I know it'll happen, it's just how, that's the bit that scares me.
You are so interesting and witty about things!! I enjoy your videos very much!!!
Sorry I wouldn’t want anyone to know I was related to him... #sorrynotsorry
babyshayleen well like its not the persons fault for being related
babyshayleen it’s bad enough being born on the same day as him! 😭
yeah, his real biological son committed suicide because of who his father was. He was a good guy who was adopted out to a wonderful family and did not deserve the judgement that was thrown at him - we dont choose our parents
I would want it known 🤷
This, along with your video on Osama Bin Laden's remains, reminds me of the Jonestown incident.
Jonestown was located in Guyana, but their government didn't want to have the remains because to them it was fundamentally an American problem, and so the bodies were brought to Delaware to be processed and identified. Some of the bodies were claimed by their families, but they only claimed a little over half of the victims. Delaware refused to keep the bodies, and so a cemetary in California offered to take them. The remaining 410 victims of Jonestown are buried in Evergreen Cemetary in Oakland, California.
What's most interesting to me about the bodies is how there were the people who refused to properly dispose of the dead. The prevailing idea seems to be that whenever one accepts a dead body, one accepts who the deceased was as part of their community. We take care of our dead, not other people's dead. In addition, the bodies were sitting in the forest for a while, and began to suffer decomposition. They began to look inhuman, so it was easy to see them as such. Inhuman creatures who were capable of violent acts and moved together as one being, with Jim Jones at the head.
Interestingly, Jim Jones was cremated by the government as soon as possible and tossed into the sea, partly out of fear that fanatics would flock to his gravesite.
Most of the dead were victims, a third of them were children. It's very easy to other the dead of a tragedy like Jonestown, but at the end of it all, we're all human, no matter what it is we did in life. Everyone deserves to be properly taken care of in death, because at the end of it all, the bones of a monster and a saint bear no difference.
Edit: Caitlyn talks about Jonestown on the podcast Death In The Afternoon, episode 4!
People are strange....arguing over the body of a serial killer?! Ok....
Amina Jane Ishaq
It gives them 15 min of fame and listed on wiki.
Technically I believe Manson never killed anyone
He never was a serial killer.
@@thman-cj4sk you would be correct; he never killed anyone he had his followers brainwashed to do it for him.
@Kamila Kocourková = My god you're ignorant! There are several bodies buried around the Spahn Ranch according to ex family members that Charlie killed in order to "show them how" to kill. But after he got out of jail that last time he did not want to go back so he brainwashed and threatened the others to do the killings for him. Charlie and Tex had a homosexual affair and Charlie forced Tex's loyalty by telling him he would send letters to his parents and friends telling them about him and Tex. That's why Tex was so "loyal"...and why he wrangled the females and made sure the murders were carried out. Tex was terrified of his family and friends finding out he'd had sex on more than one occasion with another man, Charlie. But you do research on the bodies in the desert and why the state won't allow people to look for them. Listen to the hours and hours of interviews from Charlie and the family. If you believe that he wasn't a serial killer, you're a damned fool.
You are so quirky, but in the most wonderful way. I only discovered your channel at 4am this morning, but I've been binging all day!
Caitlin I think you're videos are very informative and cool you're really good at this keep up the good work
I’m so glad you shed light on what happened to Manson’s corpse, however I find it very bizarre and fitting he had to get one last laugh when the ashes blew in people’s faces! You rock, Oh Queen of death.💀💀💀💀
I truly doubt that Manson is laughing down in hell.
It's called "The Lebowski/Donny Effect" ... you're welcome.
clmaynor I agree! I hope he is suffering in hell.
There is no hell, darling. It's just your wishful thinking.
Says the person on a nice trip to hell.
When you die, either I'll be wrong and nothing happens, or I'll be right and you'll suffer for eternity.
The 2 sons adopted out do resemble Manson. My understanding is that the state had him on several cumulative life sentences. As he only completed one, the state could have held his body as it still had a couple more left to serve.
I can now endure the weekend
Om gosh. Every story I ever wanted to learn about and you have them. 🤷♀️
Charles' funeral and his cremation was in my hometown, Porterville CA! It's a very small town, so we were all shocked that his they would choose our city. We also have no idea where exactly his ashes were spread. Since the funeral home kept it very discreet we had no idea.
If I were his kin, I'd wouldn't want anyone to know.
Im related to a famous killer and cannibal from the 1960s and 70s on my moms side so she took my dads name. Im glad that that isnt my name.
this channel has been popping up in my recommendations for several months and i'm glad i finally decided to click on a video.
Your videos are interesting and the perfect start of my weekend. I must tell you that because of you I have made sure that my closest love ones knows what I want when I die. Which is a good thing since I live abroad. My partner now knows about aquamation. Thank you so much for reminding me and make me do this.
You're my new guilty pleasure! So glad your channel was recommended! I love your content!
I could watch you talk all day. Another great video x
Loved...entertaining and I learned something too...and I was 9 when those murders happened...summer of 69
I didn't even know he was dead! I guess the fact that I wasn't hearing about his latest parole board hearing should have been a clue.
I wonder who attended Manson's funeral
Sandra Good was the only Family member to attend.
I wouldn't have. May he rest in peace, but screw that.
erin h Perhaps the two alleged children, the grandchild, as well as Manson's known pen pal. He also had a women who wished to marry him while he was behind bars (their marriage was denied) as well as any edgy followers and "believers" he has. Aka. That smelly kid you had in class who said he can talk to wolves and is a vampire.
erin h +++ the devil incarnate was there too to celebrate a new brotherhood w/manson burning in hell below.
Anton LaVey died 20 years ago, but I'm sure the two said hello when Manson arrived in hell.
Hi, i'm relatively new here just found the channel a few days ago n i jus gotta say i'm enjoying the videos. You make such informative and fun contend and considering its alll about death and such proceedings as come after i must say; job well done👍🏿
I work for a storage unit facility here in Texas. We auctioned off a unit. The new buyers returned human ashes that was left in the unit. I did find the family and return them to the family. Strange day but I hear it is more common than you think.
I know Charlies grandson, Jason Freeman, the guy who ended up with the ashes. Hes a super good guy and does a lot for his community.
So, they tossed the remains out into the forest, and the forest is like, "I don't want this demon's ashes!" and blew the ashes right back at them.
"Why would you want Charles Manson's corpse?"
"I get to work at least 20 minutes sooner if I can use the carpool lane"
i love this channel so much, its such a normal take on death, and oddly not odd
YOURE SO CLOSE TO 2 MIL IM SO HAPPY FOR YOUUUUUU
I honestly thought he had died many years ago so when I heard about it, I was confused lol
If I'm underage, should I still make a will ?
Not planning on dying anytime soon, I just want to be prepared.
Never too young to be prepared. Of course, if heaven forbid, something fatal should happen to you, your parents would have the final say, I'm sure your wishes would be considered, if they were known.
Its called an advanced directive and you can always do onr
She has a vid on that too
Can't hurt to write down your wants/wishes. I'm not sure how legal it would be, but good idea to do.
Literally laughed out loud at the ending LMFAOOOO That's terribly hilarious
You entertain me so much. I wish you lived here. Your just such cool people
Thank you for this video ! 😊💐
You know, the majority of crimes and wars are started because men get offended, angry, or intensely competitive. Emotional, if you will.
And people say women are ruled by their emotions. 🙄
Really love your videos looking forward everyweek #DeathlingFan #Philippines 😍
“I’ve become one with the suuuun” 😂 You’re hilarious & this is why i love you ☺️❤️😂
TY. This channel is fascinating and has taught me a tremendous amount. Keep it comin'.
I live in Porterville, Ca, and can tell you that our community was shocked that the services and distribution of his ashes was carried out here.
I can’t wait until I get a real job and join your patreon.
They are absolute monsters, but they are someone's family member. It's a touchy situation to be sure.
I knew California law was a bit nuts and I assumed that there would be people out there who would claim his body and fight over it but damn. Can't Californians do anything without it involving endless tired drama? Seriously.
PS Very interesting video though. You make a damn good case for making sure your wishes are well and properly documented.
meh Wow! I appreciate the clarification. I had a feeling it wasn't so simple.
And no, we Californians can't do a thing without as much drama as possible. It just wouldn't be right.
Homebase LMAO!! 😂 Well at least you're honest! And given you all managed to use it to become the entertainment capital of the world I guess it isn't all bad.
Michael I live in California and it's a fuckn mess
Thank you for making me laugh. The ashes flying back in their faces was a gem of an additional topic. Love your videos and books.
I'm from the small county directly above Kern County, and I've BEEN to Porterville for high school band functions.
What a weird feeling.