Araby Lore Total War: Warhammer 2
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- A look at the lore and army of Araby and how they might appear in Total War: Warhammer 2. To skip ahead see below.
History: 0:34
Geography & Cities: 24:41
People: 28:54
Army: 29:43
Possible Legendary Lords: 49:30
Araby Magic: 1:01:18
Possible Legendary Lords Cont.: 1:05:39
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PS. I know a few of you are waiting for Skaven I'm looking at you Krevin buddy but I'm waiting to do that one till closer to E3 and the expected announcement.
PPS. I know I interchange Ormazd and Ozmazd in this video please don't comment on it. Ormazd is the correct one.
now if they can add in grand cathay as a faction in the game then it will be glorious. cause we can travel the whole silk road there and be certified bad asses for taking on what ever is in the way over there though making it safe enough to ensure that more then a ratio of 1:10 success rate in overland travel might be a hard thing. better to do it by sea if possible.
The war of the three emperors was likely inspired by a point in the catholic church's history in which there was a dispute between the next pope would be eventually ending up with a 3-way tug of war. I can't remember who won exactly
The Inept General do you have a vid on Cathay if not than will it be made
LOL A sikh race should be in warhammers, they are one of the greatest warrior races present on earth today. Wielding their swords and kirpan the dagger, preaching good deeds and humanity. Fighting muslims all their history who tried to forcefully convert masses in the south east. Be a muslim, or face beaheading. They ended this monstrosity and thats why we have Hindus or all the hindus would have converted to muslims in the south east.
I'd like to know where you got your info on the Arabyan religion?
"Fear in people who haven't seen camels before"
Imperial soldier: Aaaah, lumpy horse, i mean, i fought against giant spiders, giant bats, bull-mans and dragons, but this really makes my shit my pants.
Dark Dragon Dragoon haha tell that to the camel cataphracts of total war rome 2 from one of the worst dlcs ever made ;)
camel was used to frighten horses and elephants , yes it was slower so it was not that effective against infantry , that why it was never used as shock cavalry .
Camels are as fast as horses, and there was no shock camal cavalry because there was no shock cavalry culture around areas that tame camels. Their biggest advantages were to kill horses, because they are bigger and they scare horses (horses are skittish) and against elephants because camels are big and the riders could easily reach the elephant riders and eyes.
I think that could be two variants of camels, a light one, super early, cause fear, bonus vs large, no desert attrition and a heavy one, late, but not as elite as elephants, cause fear, armored and meelee cavalry with bonus against large, with a campaign bonus against desert attrition for the army
PoorManatee 6197 Old Worlders are superstitious. And in a world where daemons, witches, and cults are real threats, I can see them freaking out a bit at the sight of camels if they don't know about them.
Duke: "By the Lady, what's wrong with their horses?!"
Knight: "They must be mutants or daemons. Look at the deformed body; that hideous hump, the long neck, that awful color-"
*camel spits*
Duke: "Giles' sacred biceps! It's attacking us!"
Knight: "Daemons! Daemons!"
camel artillery {camel cannon} is very successful weapon it was light fast long range they divested many times against infantry cavalry
"Skirmisher Carpets" Done. Sold. Take my my money. I want Skirmisher Carpets.
If they throw naft from the carpets, they are literal carpet bombers
I've just started playing the Warhammer 2 OVN Lost Factions mod and the Flying Carpets are actually kinda OP. Their cycle charge is devastating and the quite unique animation gets them out of combat really quickly to avoid taking damage. I like to make balanced roleplay armies but they are definitely Doomstack candidates if you're that way inclined.
~I can show you-
*DEATH FROM ABOVE!!!*
I think Araby will be like Bretonnia, a minor faction with some unique units that's unplayable without mods, But I do think they will be added somewhere down the line as dlc.
LoneSomeRider Inshallah
i was thinking the same. i mean i dont think they can just apply a generic human skin to them so im curious to see what happens
I think it will probably just be left empty w/ no settlements or anything. Maybe some quest stuff, or the odd bonus for other players to fight over.
LoneSomeRider Thats exactly how I see them implement them!
A lot of their units (horsemen, swordsmen, archers spears etc) could just use recycled animations from the Emprie and Brettonia. It's certainly doable, and something that would be a neat feature.
You've sold me. I'd love to play with this army in Total War. My carpets and djinns would blot out the sky.
Invest in a good industrial carpet cleaner
OVN mod warhammer 2 and 3
"Fear in people who haven't seen camels before".
KingFluffs Enemy looks at the camels coming at him "Aaaaah! Lumpy horse!"
In a world with giants, giant spiders and giant spiders with demon tentacles, lumpy horses don't seem too bad.
They are right to be afraid, have you seen a camel's dulla? A clear mutation and a sign of chaos corruption!
*Vampires, Orcs, Daemons*
Imperial soldier: I sleep
*Long necked horse with two lumps on its back*
BY SIGMAR
I really hope that Araby does make it into one of the Total Warhammer games... or at the very least someone does a total faction conversion mod like what has been done with the Chaos Dwarfs and Tomb Kings etc. I love the Araby lore and army lists and stuff... it's all so unique like many of the other factions in the Warhammer Fantasy setting are and they'd play so different from the other Human Warhammer factions as well.
Wouldn't the "Black Scimitar Guard" use primarily, you know, scimitars?
Cabbadath B hey, the Roman unit the Hastati were named after a spear but they used swords
I don’t know if it’s meant to be taken that literally.
CA: Crap we need a dlc/flc for the Southlands.
Random Worker: What about Araby?
CA: Good idea. Quick, magic up the Ummayads from the Charlemagne expansion and add in new versions of some of the Egyptian and Moorish units from Medieval 2!
it still better than using empire unit for araby faction.
Ahmad Zahid Gani I am sorry to say they did just that instead their bretonnians
Eddie Warner At least they're fluffed as crusader states, which makes it more acceptable. Here's hoping for a real Araby!
thats pretty much what the warhammer universe consistently offers for every faction, you know
They kinda have flying Carpets, Djinni and a ton of Mages...
A year later, after the addition of Tomb Kings, Norscan elephants, island battles, the addition of sartosa to ME, lords from Dreadfleet, etc.--Araby has to be the next DLC faction, right? :)
i hope so
Nope
@@KingInBlack69 wrong :(
Very interesting vid, thanks. Araby's one of those places in the Warhammer World that I never knew much about until now. Any chance of doing an Albion one? I know bits and bobs about that place but a cool lore video would be great. :)
this is one of your best videos, using maps and tactics! congratulations
I was very much looking forward to this video! Thanks for making it, I enjoyed it! :) I like your ideas about the spells and units too! Really hope to see Araby have unique units in the upcoming game!
I really hope to see Araby in TW Warhammer. Very cool faction.
Your videos are excellent. Do you think you could do a video on the southern nations of the old world. I know they are in the game but it would be really nice to hear about their history and how you would like to see them and their units implemented either in a DLC or mod.
Hey Richard I think alot of that might be covered when I get round to doing a Dogs of War video.
The Inept General Cheers, no rush, just thought it would be good to hear your thoughts. Thanks again for the video.
I think a better feature for total war games to use when armies are fighting in extreme conditions, such as extreme heat or cold, rather than just having attrition they should have debuffs for soldiers who are not used to such conditions, such as lower stamina and leadership. Units that are used to such conditions would be more immune to it, and units that fight several battles in such conditions can perhaps become more resilient to it. I think this coupled with the traditional attrition mechanics would make it more interesting when fighting for example in Araby, so that Arabian horse archers may be less powerful than other units but immune to these debuffs, so in certain conditions they are much more powerful.
Late, SUPER late reply but...
I've always liked that idea, I think I'd go a long way of helping to both balance the game and at tge same time diversify units for each faction without things getting too overpowered.
Plus I could imagine a sort of adaptation mechanic and conditioning system for armies in unfamiliar environments they aren't well equipped or trained to deal with like say "Arabyian" mercanaeires are not used to the cold of kislev but are amazing at fighting of hordes charging Norscan warriors and have pretty quick cacalry for easy flanking of enemy lines, so in order to take advantage of such bonuses they have to both be supplied warmer clothing for the frigid weather and spend time getting accustomed to it (as best they can), both of these things would run up costs and training time for certain units to better useable but are made worth it by the tactical flexibility they offer and tipping power they can bring to certain battles.
The araby faction does not need fancy shields and retartedly heavy armour to win battles. All they need is their scimitar and their devotion to their faith to defeat their enemies.
Faith in Tzeentch will surely help!
Camel riders are very easy to make diffrent from horsemen: NO TIRING DURING BATTLE!
The army of Araby could very well be an army of durable cavalry. Lots of HP and slow tiring but not exeptionally fast. Would make them diffrent from other mostly cavalry races, like Kislev which puts the emphasis more on skirmishing rather than outlasing in melee.
Interesting but it maybe a little bit OP... maybe just given them better stamina rather than just make them forever "fresh". Real world camels are nearly as fast as horses and has more stamina, so a camel would win in a marathon, horse would win in a short sprint.
They could also add "desert sands" as a new terrain type that slows and tires out troops/horses much like forests currently does but make camels immuned.
abong look at that this way: Araby would have normal horse cavalry as their main one but the camels would be the higher tier cavalry. And they wouldn't be infinately fresh, just resist tireing up for a longer duration.
And for a good reason: Those camel riders are supposed to stay competetive against Kinghts, so having the camels suited for outlansting and outtactic something that has considerably more armour and damage is reasonable.
Karol Kwiecjasz
i have think some time about this , and they can have 2 possible monstrous cavalry/mounts for legendary lords (if GW gives the ok)
perhaps some giant scorpions (like the ones from the film clash of titans) or the. ..... motherfucking historical : Mushussu / Sirrush a great dragon from Babylonian mythology (you know the ishtar gate on babylon).
a scaly dragon with hind legs resembling the talons of an eagle, feline forelegs, a long neck and tail, a horned head, a snake-like tongue, and a crest.
it s perfect for them
# vigour resistance
From what I remember from some really ancient lore, I think carrions really drew the short stick and got messed up by all the necromancy in the area - they eat, they grow and reproduce through eggs, but are otherwise undead.
Lmao wut how do undead things grow or reproduce?
@@LOL-zu1zr very messily
@@marcusc9931 lol
@@LOL-zu1zr *chaos*
Love this video. Would love to see a similar to to Kislev. The other army in War master that never had a full army list released.
Araby must be in the game if you think about it enough. If they implement the tombkings(which they definetly will) there would be a huge gap inmidst of the southlands. They are prettymuch bound to be in there unless CA devides to give all the southern desert realms to the TK.
In Attila, camel units cause fear in regular horse cavalry, if I recall correctly. They also have higher mass, so get a pretty nasty charge, if I'm remembering right.
Al Muktar and Ahmed Shufti could be a two-entity legendary lord unit (like Skarsnik and Gobla). Or three, if you include Ibben, the blind bannerman.
probably slower cavalry + less charge bonus but get bigger HP + Resistant to fatigue. not too sure about about bonus against horse probably just minor debuff for horse so they less effective if going 1 v 1 against camel. the camel rider can fills role as optional meatshield cavarly for araby (unlocked via alt tech tree) and can be used to fill role as backbone of their cavalry unit.
Assuming araby infantry are so-so and they known for focused on light cavalry. their knight/mamluke and elephant accessible as high-tier limited/expensive unit which leave a wide gap from their early light cavalry unit.
Camel legs are not as sturdy as horses thou.
I'm currently playing as the Golden Magus with the OVN mod, great stuff.
Araby is a great example of lazy naming in Warhammer :/ half the names are just a word/name from history or LOTR with one or two letters changed. Araby is Arab, with a Y.
It's a shame that Warhammer Fantasy was shelved in favor of a reboot when there were several potential factions that GW could have expanded into. I would have loved to see some of the peripheral factions fleshed out. Araby in particular I feel could have really benefited from a lore revamp, getting rid of all that colonial nonsense and coming up with some more creative names and so on.
zombieLISKlizard Fun fact, up until the early 1800s Arabia itself was still sometimes called "Araby" in English. So it's actually even lazier than it looks.
catoblepasomega They really could have built up on the connection with Zlatan and the Lizardmen cities in the Southlands. They're pretty much the only ones to have ever seen the inside of a Lizardmen city, quite possibly the only humans (besides maybe Amazons) who have even a slight understanding of how the Lizardmen think. So maybe they could have had some Lizardmen influences and vice versa. So Southlands Lizardmen would be a little more concerned with how the Great Plan affects other life forms because they've gotten to know the people of Araby. Or maybe they could have worked together at times, the wizards/sorcerers of Araby having learned how to imprison and enslave djinn from the Slann and those same wizards/sorcerers informed the Slann of what was going on in Nekahara, and the two working together being the only things keeping the Tomb Kings from over running the Southlands. Or the two cooperating against the Skaven because they both hate the damn Skaven.
I would have named them Arabia honestly.
just like nippon lol
Yeah I hope they are in. They are close to a lot of factions/races. So getting them in is a must.
Thank you very much for this video!
I was always curious about Araby .
Any chnce for a Tomb King video?
Camels go faster than horses. They have excellent stamina over long distance where as horses require the rider to dismount and walk half the time over long distances.
Camels don’t sprint as fast as horses thou.
The lore on the golden magnus also mentions another possible unit, the Ifrit which would probably just be a fire based Djinn. Funny thing that Ifrit in fantasy are always fire based and Djinn wind creatures although in the original myth the latter are said to be made out of smokeless fire.
Good video, Keep it up!
I hope CA implements Araby
Not likely to happen
If they have the Djin in the game, they'll have to have them say "Phenomenal cosmic power!" when they use their magic, or when you select them.
But I think the Guard should be changed out for a Janissary unit that should come in two varieties. A musket and sword and shield versions.
I think that if they also added in a system of choosing between more city or nomadic troops.
thanks a lot , i was interested in fantasy middle east for a while and found a book of araby in warhammer ,but reading such book takes too much time , therefore your video is much apriciated :3
great video!
it's neHEkara by the way :)
If any of the minor factions(Tilea, Estalia, Kislev, Araby, Cathay, etc) make it to the game? They should be FLCs, free factions like Bretonnia.
Nice joke, my guy.
I hope ca ads araby, gotta get my eastern spearmen and conquer the world with them
Brilliant lore summary General! Loving your videos. Golden Magnus tho 😅
Isnt Muktar just the Lawrence of the Warhammer World? Yes, its an old trope to make the white the best in something some other culture invented.... But Araby was never in the focus and many texts are written from imperial point of view.... They could have flashed out Araby more and you could do more wirh it today. But the Warhammer World is done. And there was still so much shit to explore. I would love to see Gotrek and Felix in Araby or hear more about it in the End Times. But every human nation without much lore or own army book was just overrun by Skaven. That's the lame thing. The world building wasn't finished in the end. There was still so much to do. Makes me sad. When I was a child Warhammer books made me a reader.
Well they (Arabyans/Arabians?) got overrun by Tzeentch forces during The End Time and their God itself happen to be a Great Deceiver himself as i understand. So nothing special...
humanity is depravity the seven deadly sins loves all humans jahehaeahehehaeh blood for the blood god!
The End Times was and always will be trash.
Shite end to a great setting.
This is laughably late but... If you want Gotrek and Felix in Araby, you can read "The Two Crowns of Ras Karim" in "Gotrek and Felix: The Anthology." Granted, the story won't blow your mind but it is the only Araby tale that I'm aware of.
magic carpets & mages turning into whirlwhinds, very characterful, hope we see these as DLC
its always a shame how the official material was so neglectful of places like araby, tilea, and estalia despite their proximity. cathay and ind i can understand, theyre a bit far off.
5 years later and we got Cathay, but no Araby, Tilea, or Estalia
thank you, araby is one of the many minor factions I want to learn more about.
Can you do a video about missing spells in the current lores of magic? I don't know why they are not in the game and people don't talk about them much.
every lore missing one spell
maybe in a future dlc...
I hope now
not
Re. Black Guard:
Maybe have them able to swap modes, spear mode being anti-large/charge defence and sword mode being anti-infantry.
dude love these lore videos you do! can't wait to see skaven!
I know I'm coming to the video years late, but as I didn't see another comment to this effect, I thought you might find it fun to hear that the switch from Allah to Ormazd was not exactly a moment of greater creativity on GW's part: Ormazd is a rendering of Ahura Mazda, the chief god and embodiment of goodness, spirituality, and fire in ancient Persian Zoroastrian religion. Same old GW, am I right?
Great video, as usual! I hope we see Araby. Probably like Bretonnia if it happens
Araby AKA the Aladdin faction.
I knew there would be flying carpets and genies in the Arabian army :D
Araby, Kislev, Dogs of War(Tilea&Others), Albion, and Nippon would make good DLC factions.
Also Halflings... because reasons!
I hate halflings because they zerg rush me in conquest of elysium 4
This video made me sub, well done keep up the great work!
When you do use fan books for reference, which ones do you use? Warhammer Armies Project books or other sources.
I cream my self when i saw your lore video uploaded.
That's pretty Slaaneshi..
That's kinda funny that their god is in fact a Tzeentch 'undercover'.
i hope they put araby tbh they seem quite interesting with the 1001 nights style
Your'e getting me so god damn hyped
Fantastic video! Will you make one for Kislev as well? :)
I see a lot of people talking about Albion, but I don't know anything about it - could you do a lore video on that at some point?
I’d say for the Camel Riders, just take the inspiration from the camel units from Medieval 2 or Rome 1.
Ohrmazd is another form of Ahura Mazda, the monotheistic deity in Zoroastrianism. They're still being just as lazy, just using a different religion.
The World of Warcraft loa of death, Bwomsamdi sends his regards.
Love these videos, keep it up!
Why were the marshes of madness left completely interactionable-less in the vanilla game?
Camel Riders should have better or even perfect vigour to differentiate them from horse cav
Why is there always a guy called Jaffar? :p
Is it not Ha-rem instead of Ha-reem
These videos are fantastic
i think the araby faction should be in the same game as the tomb kings. Probably we wont see them in Warhammer 2 but I think, since Tombkings is a main faction, araby as an arch enemy will be definetly in the third game.
Re. Camels:
Horses *hate* camels apparently. Maybe have them cause fear vs. other cavalry?
are you going to due any more empire province videos soon they are great
As for slave soldiers, since Warhammer tends to mix everything from any culture into one pot, I'd like to see some janissaries.
"Cause fear for people that haven't see them before" Hhahaha I'd laugh if it wasn't midnight!
I imagine a chaos warrior running from one spitting at him!
If these got added there would be more food for my Orks.
There another of the 2 Regiments of Renowned they have that I can think of which is called Mad Mullah Aklan'd's Death Commandos
Ahmed Shufti and Mullah Aklan'd could both be good Legendary Lord choices with The Golden Magus and maybe the Great Sultan but make it a female and just have Al Muktar as a special hero for Ahmed Shufti
Any chance you could do a Potential Legendary Lords video for Araby? I know there is over 4 special characters that they could pull from
idea on how to make Cathay araby ind and Nippon facs actually fit in warhammer (rename them to something more fictional than rewrite the faith part of there lore to fit warhammer more ) other than that keep them the same
Lol, all this whining about an "SJW hat" all stemming from _one_ segment *an hour into the video* when he semi-facetiously mentions a "social justice warrior hat" just to point out not even his, but _CA's_ possible concern over a legitimate overplayed "white savior" trope. The entire rest of the video he was expressing eagerness over all the other silly, stereotypical units and tropes, and _one_ mention of SJW and people are acting like he was calling for witch elves to cover up. Crimany, it's times like this that show how hypocritical ani-SJW's often are; they have such little self awareness.
+Eddie
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No they are not, the wicht are still half naked.
Stop spreading lie to justify your agenda.
Will the things that don't exist be next next? Asking for a friend friend...
Elite carpeteers!!! dropping naft bombs yes!
43:31
Sheik is higher than amir
Amir= Prince
no Amir is higher
Sultan/king/Klifa > Amir > Sheik
@@Observe8 ah that makes sense
@@Observe8 my apologies
@@Observe8 ill keep that in mind akhi
;)
If they use Empire buildings/units for Araby, I will not be impressed. Walahi, I will beat them with 30,000 shoes for their insolence!
Kek
I really hope this faction is in Warhammer 3 as DLC
great video
Wouldn't Araby be polytheist considering Myrmidia is a thing?
Perhaps. The Empire worships Ulrich, Morr etc as well as Sigmar. Most Warhammer factions seem to be Polytheistic to some extent.
Myrmidia as I understand is a Tilean/Estalian goddess statue was built before Araby took the city.
Ouch,that Muhammed story... I think I know why you couldn't find official sources. GW probably treated those old source books like an Imperial Witch Hunter would treat the books of Nagash: Burn them before they cause a massive Calamity to the empire/company.
Where’s the Muhammed story? I can’t find it.
Nevermind I found it. 5:27
CURVEDSWORDS
I just realized you only have 7 k subs I mean I know you're like a specific niche of videos but I expected more subs for the high quality of your videos
Araby , is just the total stereotypes of the west about the Arab world ^^ !
الشّامخ الأزدي That is precisely the point of every single faction, they're all based on the stereotypes of the ancient world,
icyburger is not a arab lol a false arab for sure lol jaehaehae humanity is depravity the seven deadly sins loves you all :D
What?@@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou
FEAR THE MELEE CARPET!
Melee Carpet! ATTACK! haha
Plz do Nippon lore!
Project Perfect MMO bro there is like 4 paragraphs ffs you weeb dumbasse
Mann Tau oh. lol. I was wondering because I never see anything about them anywhere so I was curious
have you ever made the connection between al muktar and Lawrence of arabia?
Considering I mention it in the video yes 51:22
sorry i must have missed that.
No worries :)
Their army is basically just glorious Parthia from Rome II.
They lack actual cataphracts though
DEUS VULT INTENSIFIES!
the empire and bretonnia going Crusade.
+the great book of grudges
Now my knowledge of the lore isn't top notch, but I think the ban on "crossbows" that Bretonnia uses to ban firearms only applies in Bretonnia itself (that's why their navy has guns)... so would an errantry war into Arabia have access to cannons and rifles? After all, GW did release bretonnian models for them.
Or, as an interesting way to modify the gameplay midgame, you could unlock gun powder only when Bretonnian unification is complete... I would be totally down for that ｖ(⌒ｏ⌒)ｖ
Calimero Hœnir No, an awesome gameplay feature would be calling Crusades. DEUS VULT INFIDELS!
Well it would be SIGMAR VULT (Sigmar wills it) or DOMINA VULT (The Lady wills it).
I approve of that trade mark it and make it official. :D
hey jazils is originally Afghan Persian Arabian indian weapon why not arbay have jazil infantry
in world Lore
tnx tnx tnx:)
From indypride araby video everyone?
Its odd Games Workshop said Assassins originated in Nippon. The real hashashin existed 600 years earlier than ninjas. If anything, Nippon should have gotten it from Araby then traded it to Skaven/Dark Elves.
Heroes*
Araby shouldn’t be a faction, they should be powerful mercenaries u can recruit like the ogres
Jaafar from Aladin lol
Even though its the same lore, you read it so much more better then Arch. You're brettonian lore video compared to his is a good example too, he really ruined it for me.
Dam, I would really have loved to play this faction in Warhammer2, but knowing how lazy CA is with minor factions it will probably won't even see the light of day.
All CA did was put vampire counts and Bretonnian factions where Araby is suppose to be.
It's a big undertaking as they'd need to more or less build the faction wholesale. They knocked it out the park with Vampire Coast though, so I could see them having the confidence to try it now.
@@Canadish I agree that they have the confidence and I love the vampire coast factions.
But don't you think with the way Araby looks in terms of units, lords and general lore they might be afraid of offending people ?
Beside all the work that would go into making a new faction and balancing it, what else would hold be holding them back ?
@@SilvioSalieri I can guarantee that's an issue that's giving them pause. They're a UK company so there is the risk someone makes a hate speech allegation and people face fines/jail time (I fucking hate this country sometimes...)
I don't mind some obvious rewrites (using Allah is just lazy, nevermind any offence caused a moment) but Warhammer always boils down the cultures that inspired it into exaggerated archetypes and over the top examples (and always shows the worst of them). I think its why GW has avoided it entirely for the most part and just nukes the setting.
It's sad, Arabian Nights and inspiration from the Islamic Golden Age could make something over the top and cool.
When you said "arabian army", is it spelled "Arabyan army"? XD
Probably.