What Makes A Bullion Sovereign? | Are some more equal than others?
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2018
- Are all bullion sovereigns created equal? Are they really only worth the gold value? When do you need to pay more? Lets have a chat about bullion sovereigns and share some tips...
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Always appreciate the education i moved past the common sovs now just buy scarce and rare you turned me into a sov snob
This is a fantastic resource for understanding some of the more collectible sovereigns out there that are quasi-bullion. I have purchased a few different sovereigns in the past year because of you and love them!
wow this is the first video i have found that is explaining it to me, THANK YOU
I learn something new with each of your new videos. I sincerely thank you. I love the sovereigns! Semper Fi. Dave
thanks for sharing, really enjoyed listening to your knowelege, and learning more about our lovely soverigns.
Oh what treasure! And I'm talking about this video. It's great to find an older Numi video that's somehow previously escaped my attention (before I subscribed to the channel). And this one is a classical gem. The coins are also a delight of course. Thank you very much for a very informative production.
Thanks for rediscovering it
A great assortment and variety with constructive comments - another great video
I like all coins. My OCD gets the best of me. Most coins you buy I buy. Thanks Numi.
Great video, thank you Numi. I'm starting now. I got my first 1/2 Sovereign and a full one. Kings head from 1904/1902. Initially just to invest in Gold. ALL I KNOW IS FROM YOUR VIDEOS THANK YOU
Is always good to learn from your videos....You do a great job Numi😊
Thanks Dirtu
this is the video ive been waiting for
Very interesting. Thanks Numi 😊
Thanks for the educational video numi, I also like cull silver video. Both of you give us lot of informations. I don't consider myself as a worth of a penny & don't like to talk worth less than a penny. I am a new collector. I collect coins as a hobby not as an investment. I have full respect for all type of collectors. Thanks again
Hey thanks for sharing! Always keen to learn more this was really informative. Just found the channel and subscribed and having a dig through your other videos now.
2000 videos to keep you amused
@@Numistacker 1 video for every 100k years I've been roaming the earth
Great lesson! :)
@Numistacker
I think its probably quite a good idea to always have some various Bullion coins that can be sold readily , if needed to for various reasons , without having to sell treasured special coins that you may be bit attached to . . and may be hard to get again ??
Another thoughtful vid thanks !
💯 America Buffalo's. 24k bullion.
I'm trying to get in the numatics side of coins 🪙 but it's a little tricky .
Lot's of fakes out here and that scares the me.
Small fortune in these beauties.
Thx. For the content sir.
Much appreciated here.
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Fan of Bullion but nice to know what to look for....Thanks...
that's why I like your RUclips channel because you explain more.
which Sovereign coins would you recommend buyr to start buying
Excellent education video! I want a 2002!
Most informative. Any sources you recommend or suggested reading for these fabulous coins?
Thank you again.
Thanks Numi!!👍🏻.....This is JUST the Video that My Daughter (Jennifer) was looking for!!😉 As I stated in another one of your Vids.
(Or the E-Mail that She sent you about The "Coin World" Article, that gave "NUMISTACKER" the "Shout Out" in!)...... As She is IN LOVE! And is going to Start a "Sovereign" Collection!😍😍😍.......As My American Proof DCAM, (ULTRA CAMEO 'With NGC") Silver Trade Dollars, just don't
"Float Her Boat" LOL!.........I will state that I am Happy that she has picked UK "Old Gold" instead of the Pre-1933 American Gold, as I just personally think (And of course, so does My Daughter) that the Coins from across the pond are just much better looking!!...
So Again, Thanks For This Video My Friend!......As THIS VIDEO WAS SPOT ON, TO WHAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR!.....
So Again, Thank You! And God Bless, You, and Yours......
Sean, Jennifer......
She won’t regret starting a Sovereign Collection that’s for sure
Now this the type of video I need to understand who is who and why$
Thanks ))
I love sovereigns. I think that they are my favorite gold coin.
Excellent video. Love all those coins. I just purchased the Queen Elizabeth pre-decimal, I naively mistook the 1958 for 1953, wishful thinking.
ian fraser if you find a 1953 Proof let me know
Sure, after I have it in my possession.
I love sovereign.. Prefer bullion and if get the proof in a good price surely I will buy it
I wish I had all those!(:
great video
Good video :)
I got a 1959 soveriegn for way more than what I think I sould have paid for it. It's in MS64 graded by NGC.
Anyways, as a numismatic guy wanting to "stack" gold, I would love to see you do more videos on buying tips for soveriengs and gold in gerneral.
Once I have got these grading videos out of the way I will do some general ones
The 1959 sovereign is the rarest date of the first head of Elizabeth 11 by Mary gillick. If its a MS 64 its a nice grade. If you just want to stack gold sovereigns, then just buy sovereigns at the cheapest rate, just make sure they are genuine. But stacking does not concern genuine collectors ie numismatists.
Numi my local coin shop has an 1899 and 1900 sovereign. I think they are both London mint. I'm not very knowledgeable in sovereigns and typically do not collect them but I can get a good deal. Bestow your knowledge upon me...
The other point that I would say, it does not matter what sovereign you have or condition, they all have a basic bullion price, irrespective of how rare it is. The only reason that top grades and rare sovereigns go for dizzy prices is because collectors want to own them,which pushes the prices up. But to the average person who just want to own a gold sovereign, it makes no difference.
I'm a fan of MS sovereigns at bullion prices.
Interesting advice also thanks - do you buy them already MS graded or do you search for suitable looking coins and get those graded yourself?? Are the uplifts of plain Bullion to MS coins signicant do you think ?
Cheers !!
Hi Sora. I never get coins graded. MS, of course, just means uncirculated and I buy uncirculated and proof coins whenever they are available at prices just a small amount over spot.
MS sovereigns are not bullion coins, but are collected by coin collectors, because they are high grades. Bullion pieces are for people who just wish to stack gold sovereigns. They are of little interest to collectors, unless nice condition or rare, and can be bought above the daily price of gold at a small premium.
Love these coins but have yet to buy any.
Nice coins, but beware. The first was a Jubilee head London, horse with long tail. According to Marsh it is extremely rare (R3) but in reality there are plenty of these coins. Don't think you will get rich with these coins. But the second jubilee head is a beauty, with a nice premium..
It not a point in getting rich, numismatics is about types and varieties, condition and if the coin is rare or not. Marsh although list a piece as rare, it means its rarer then the average sovereign. price depends on demand from collectors, and prevailing market conditions.
Thanks for sharing! Did you buy the new king Charles sovenign?
Yes I did
All my sovereigns, except for 2 or 3 are pure bullion coins. They range from 1873-1932 and 1957-2010.
By the way if anyone wants to hunt junk silver it's better working as a cashier at any busy store or supermarket than hunting coin rolls. That's my personal opinion
Hey Numi, do you think a proof 2018 Sovereign from the Perth Mint would be a better wedding gift over the 1/4oz kangaroo? They cost essentially the same but I think the Sovereign would make a better gift. Thoughts?
The Sovereign
During the 60s and 70s, Sovereigns from bullion dealers all went for the same price, but Victorian ones always sold for a little more. However all shield back sovereigns always sold for more. During the 60s and early 70s female sovereigns always sold for less in Muslim countries then male sovereigns, due to a woman's status then. Today however this has all changed in Muslim countries. During the 60s and early 70s you could find BU sovereigns at bullion dealers, and get them for the same price as well worn pieces, because all sovereigns are classed as bullion gold coins, and its still the same today. However because so many collect sovereigns today, and want top condition, this has all changed, and bullion and coin dealers go through them with a fine tooth comb and prices now go through the roof, for the best pieces. When you consider you will have to pay £600 to £700 for a BU common old head Victorian sovereign against £300 for a VF very fine piece, its not for the average collector anymore. Its well worth looking at the lower grades, because its still worth collecting, just make sure they have not been mounted or cleaned.
Some great points thank you very much. I think that people at the moment are very very focused on quality and will pay a significant extra money for the very best sovereigns particular shield backs.
@@Numistacker At this moment of time I would have to agree with. The problem now is that as these to pieces dry up from the market, and as the price for top pieces continue to rise, you have to think about what you get for your money. For example at the moment, you would have to pay £700 to £800 for a choice BU old head sovereign, although this is a very nice gold sovereign, you could get two in VF condition for this money, and have more gold for your money. And although you have a very nice BU sovereign compared to two lower grades, what happens when the buyer wants to sell the sovereign, what will you get.? There will be a time in the future, when buyers will not pay these dizzy prices, because these prices will keep going up.
I am trying to get into buying gold sovereigns put I don't know where to start. should I by cheap ones or expensive ones to start
I started buying cheap now I buy more expensive)) if I started again I would do the same as I learned from that with little risk
Im in the US im looking into thoes indian head gold BU incuse and headdress lady 10$
A spread of 6%? That's a lot. Goldforex Brussels has a spread of 2.5% and that's about the spread other coinshops in belgium have. You might wanna go there if you're planning to sell or buy a lot.
Where do you find Sovereign only 4% over spot? Almost all Europeans dealers I've seen charge atleast 6-8% premium, then add in €15-20 shipping, that's easily over 10% premium then.
Www.hattongardenmetals.co.uk
Only ships to UK as usual -.- . I'm looking for one that ships to all European countries, as I'm located in Sweden atm.
I’m sure someone at the Silverforum could help you to transship to Sweden
I have a 1905 sovereign "Edward vs.vII anyone interested?
Australian !
Bidding now in auction for scarce sovereigns ! Won 1 ,1911 ! half ! got 2 more scarce im winning 1 day to go !
I live in Australia and started with the English sovereigns and then full Krugarand and bars 1 oz abc and half ! and ,silver ,bars coins and graded NGC ,PCGS, LUNARS ,1 AND 2 OZ 5 OZ ,10 OZ STACKERS ALSO GOVERNMENT SILVER BULLION ! NUMISMATIC AND BULLION SEMI NUMISMATIC ! POURED BARS ALL SIZES ! I LIKE THEM ALL !NOW ALL SOVEREIGNS I GOT THE BUG ! mAINLY GOLD ! BUT GOT 800 OZ SILVER ! LOVE THE METALS NO CRYPTO ONLY PHYSICAL AND I HOLD MINE !
NOW ALL AREAS OF SOVEREIGNS ! LOVE ENGLISH PRE DECIMAL HOOKED NOW ON THEM WANT THEM ALL ! AND HAVE THE MEANS WITH NO CREDIT !
How much is my MS 61 1887 1/2 Sov worth in the market right now?
John A, I expect it would fetch a little bit more than £200.
Thanks...I will adjust my price. I was asking $300 or £220
It is? I was trying to calculate how much gold is in it.
Oh...you must mean a full Sov. I checked NGC now and they say $155 melt value i.imgur.com/QrPG4Mo.jpg
Paul Powell, it's not a full Sov! John says it's a half, which would be around £120 in melt. As it's a desirable date (Queen Vic's Golden Jubilee) in mint state, he should easily get £200+, although I have seen same date in much higher grade go for less than £220.