In selection, this test is done at the end of the first week. Imagine doing the final test which is 40 miles, 25 kg bergan weight plus food, water and rifle. Then having to navigate yourself through the checkpoints in under 20 hours with probably minimal sleep/rest and minimal food intake. Insane fitness from the guys who actually pass this phase
Wasn't sure if this was gonna be another "I did an SF test in my gym gear, so im a unit" kind of video. But I was pleasantly surprised. Good vibe from both guys who knew damn well the actual test is a different beast. Enjoyed this. You've got a new subscriber.
Don’t underestimate what carrying a rifle in 2 hands at all times is like compared to having two arms free. They also are not allowed watches or any other way of determining their time. But fair play to these guys they gave it a go
Much respect to those who attempt this and more to those who attempted it and completed it.. No water to be had on the Beacons unlike in the Lake District, only that which you bring and carry yourself.. learned that lesson as a fellrunner who participated in the Brecon Beacons race some time back in my youth.
@@OMT988 you are right - I went through in 2007 Winter and it was 45lbs then plus SLR (the last time it was used before the rubber demarco was brought in) - we came in bang on 3:50 and I remember a 10mins window for those who dropped off the DS. But that could’ve been 4:10. Now it’s 50lbs, and in Summer it’s plus smock, food and water! I’m currently coaching a few lads for this course inbound in a few days
Entertaining and inspiring! Treating myself to a pep talk or two from you and others to motivate a bit of work to slow down the slippery slope this 62 year old body is on😂. Let's call it GPD. General physical degradation
Now imagine doing Selection with a canvas A-frame bergan, boots, ankle, DMS, puttees, no goretex, no modern nutrition ..... and no tattoos and big muscles to help you 😁
Although i never did selection i did find though that when doing BFT's setting off early & fast made the gap too much for most of the other participants to catch up by the middle to end of the test. Although i was depleted of electrolytes towards the end it was too much distance for the rest to catch. I was certainly no 'racing snake' so adopted my own style to get a decent time.
Ah, maan keep to the right footwear bro - that's like tech doping. A reasonable effort though. My father Terry Jickells and Lofty (Wiseman) ran selection. I'd hear stories and have done some good training up there myself. Yeah, good hills to be tested on.
I have seen a few of sheps videos and I’m sure he could have gone quicker than that. The other bloke wearing trainers as well. I’m not blowing my own trumpet but I’ve done this event twice in summer 2015 and winter 2016 in 3.28 and 3.30hrs. I came 6th both times and I was 40yrs old at the time. For ex boot necks your time is shite. Sort your cardio and endurance out lads 👊👊 I expect the navigation slowed you down a bit though?
Doing the civvy one is a walk in the park. You don't carry the PROPER weight, the weapon, have your feet and back in bits or have the lack of sleep or any sleep before doing it. Don't compare the civvy one to the actual one as it's not the same
@@df9177blimey talk about stating the obvious. Do you not think I know that as an ex Royal marine. The point I was making was I came 6th both times at 40yrs of age and these ex boot necks times were awful.
Where was the jogging on the flat ish and downhill parts? Not enough weight or wpns. You should know dont set off too fast too soon. Thats beginner stuff. Weather looked about right. Also need a windproof top on. At least your out dooing it.
Yomping and tabbing aren't the same. Yomping is slow marching with loads of weight. Bootneck tabbing is speed marching, speed marching is conducted at a faster average pace than tabbing. What were you in ?
@@Barrybud2816 calm down dear it's only a bit of banter......And there was nothing cushy about The Woman's Royal Auxiliary Balloon Corps I can tell you.🫡
@@ianturner8459 i wasn't losing the plot mate, merely comment back with fact. Are you joking ! The wabc is nothing compared to the UK's premier raf reg...come back to me when you served in that !
@@Barrybud2816 You must be joking 😦..... Either Tabbing or Yomping a 5 miler is a long way to go just to die at the end of it. I could have never been one of the chosen few.
All this prep, all this research you put in, all the work to do the trek and everyone that makes a video on this part of SAS training still calling in Pen y 'Fan' with an F sound... the F is a V sound - has been this way in Wales for thousands of years. It's like going to Norwich and saying NorWich with a W sound or going to Reading and calling it REEding.. The name for this mountain has been used for centuries now. Please learn to say it correctly.
before you get there, youre already psychologically defeated by self doubt and things you shouldnt of done, youre in the fitness world and dont prepare, crazy. those wooden gates is where i started and i ran u pen y fan, corn du and fan y big, no previous running training for prep but deadlifting for P.R's wasnt out of breath once (probably because im on and off strength training and cardiovascular training). i did a mile and half and came 1st, i remember when i did it for army pre selection lad would shoot off 1st and i knew they will be fucked 3 laps in and so they was. proper preparation prevents poor performance.
This was nothing special for me, just a couple of ex military guys who felt they needed to look cool & show off for YoubTube viewers, look what i can do & in the dark & in a tee shirt to show off my big arms ...... Bet he regretted that move but had to go along with it not to bring out the wimp........ Yaddah yaddah yaddah yawn! 🥱
The ex military guys were Royal Marines Commandos. It might be worth looking up on who they are and what they do. Both the Royal Marines and the British Army's Parachute Regiment have both traditionally been units that supplied candidates for the S.B.S and S.A.S . Both these units are regarded as elite within the H.M. forces and respected worldwide.
@@chrisholland7367 Yes ........ Royal Marine Commandos not making any point just trying to look good for the camera........ I know quite alot about the SBS & the SAS actually thank you ........ As I said ........ All I saw here were your typical ex squaddie bigheads ....... nothing special! I understand what the Royal Marines provide but I don't think these two would be accepted into the elite due to the oversized egos......... Now go lecture someone else as I ain't interested!
In selection, this test is done at the end of the first week. Imagine doing the final test which is 40 miles, 25 kg bergan weight plus food, water and rifle. Then having to navigate yourself through the checkpoints in under 20 hours with probably minimal sleep/rest and minimal food intake. Insane fitness from the guys who actually pass this phase
yeah probably to weed out the weak they would say. only the strongest survive.
The fan dance isn’t 20hrs!
You were ahead of time because you had fuck all weight, no boots, no weapon! What a shit comparison.
@@5732noel the fan dance isn’t .. but the last test march is..
Fitness is 40%, the other 60% is a test of mental strength and overall ability to ignore or deal with pain. It’s all in the mind.
Wasn't sure if this was gonna be another "I did an SF test in my gym gear, so im a unit" kind of video. But I was pleasantly surprised. Good vibe from both guys who knew damn well the actual test is a different beast. Enjoyed this. You've got a new subscriber.
Don’t underestimate what carrying a rifle in 2 hands at all times is like compared to having two arms free. They also are not allowed watches or any other way of determining their time. But fair play to these guys they gave it a go
Be under no illusion that the weapon system is at times carried any way one can or is used as help; what DS don't see they don't know.
@@Rosco0754 so when did you do the fan?
Much respect to those who attempt this and more to those who attempted it and completed it.. No water to be had on the Beacons unlike in the Lake District, only that which you bring and carry yourself.. learned that lesson as a fellrunner who participated in the Brecon Beacons race some time back in my youth.
mate that dinner looked mental lmaooo
Great words at there end there mate! Really resonated with me
video was brilliantly summed up at the end. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fan Dance Selection weight is 45lbs. Then you add food and water on top and carry a rifle. 4hrs cut off - front group come in 3hrs 50mins.
@@OMT988 you are right - I went through in 2007 Winter and it was 45lbs then plus SLR (the last time it was used before the rubber demarco was brought in) - we came in bang on 3:50 and I remember a 10mins window for those who dropped off the DS. But that could’ve been 4:10. Now it’s 50lbs, and in Summer it’s plus smock, food and water! I’m currently coaching a few lads for this course inbound in a few days
@@OMT988 Rgr that mate - same here - and DS’d for Breakpoint more recently on civvy street - be good to establish comms somehow
Must Have been bit of a rusted SLR in 2007. Could ask you 1 simple question if you did it in 2007 to see if you have done selection.
@@df9177 you want to ask me one question to see if I actually did selection in 2007?
@@GymShed14smells fishy
Good effort men! Can’t believe that you went up there with a T-shirt on!
Awesome video brother ❤
Carrying a weapon is another level of pain on endurance hikes.
Entertaining and inspiring! Treating myself to a pep talk or two from you and others to motivate a bit of work to slow down the slippery slope this 62 year old body is on😂. Let's call it GPD. General physical degradation
Well good bloody work, Mark, for keeping going my man. Inspiration.
Just wondering if a cycle down from Nottingham would render me suitably knackered for authenticity haha!
Done this after a night on the piss and a left over airborne pizza.
👊
Now imagine doing Selection with a canvas A-frame bergan, boots, ankle, DMS, puttees, no goretex, no modern nutrition ..... and no tattoos and big muscles to help you 😁
Brutal
Although i never did selection i did find though that when doing BFT's setting off early & fast made the gap too much for most of the other participants to catch up by the middle to end of the test. Although i was depleted of electrolytes towards the end it was too much distance for the rest to catch. I was certainly no 'racing snake' so adopted my own style to get a decent time.
What shirt and pants you were wearing during the hike?
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Ah, maan keep to the right footwear bro - that's like tech doping. A reasonable effort though. My father Terry Jickells and Lofty (Wiseman) ran selection. I'd hear stories and have done some good training up there myself. Yeah, good hills to be tested on.
What do you think on the new PJFT
Great video Jim! How many ft in total elevation was that route?
It’s 886m at the summit. I don’t work in ft as a measurement.
I have seen a few of sheps videos and I’m sure he could have gone quicker than that. The other bloke wearing trainers as well.
I’m not blowing my own trumpet but I’ve done this event twice in summer 2015 and winter 2016 in 3.28 and 3.30hrs. I came 6th both times and I was 40yrs old at the time.
For ex boot necks your time is shite. Sort your cardio and endurance out lads 👊👊
I expect the navigation slowed you down a bit though?
Doing the civvy one is a walk in the park. You don't carry the PROPER weight, the weapon, have your feet and back in bits or have the lack of sleep or any sleep before doing it. Don't compare the civvy one to the actual one as it's not the same
@@df9177blimey talk about stating the obvious. Do you not think I know that as an ex Royal marine.
The point I was making was I came 6th both times at 40yrs of age and these ex boot necks times were awful.
Where was the jogging on the flat ish and downhill parts? Not enough weight or wpns. You should know dont set off too fast too soon. Thats beginner stuff. Weather looked about right. Also need a windproof top on.
At least your out dooing it.
mmm easy in training shoes and not been beasted for 4 days prior. cutoff is 4 hours , normal Bergan weight is heavier than your vest !
What running shoes were you rocking for it?
It’s actually 45 to 50lbs btw
Yomping is not as hard as tabbing......just saying 😊
Yomping and tabbing aren't the same. Yomping is slow marching with loads of weight. Bootneck tabbing is speed marching, speed marching is conducted at a faster average pace than tabbing. What were you in ?
@@Barrybud2816 calm down dear it's only a bit of banter......And there was nothing cushy about The Woman's Royal Auxiliary Balloon Corps I can tell you.🫡
@@ianturner8459 i wasn't losing the plot mate, merely comment back with fact. Are you joking ! The wabc is nothing compared to the UK's premier raf reg...come back to me when you served in that !
@@Barrybud2816 You must be joking 😦..... Either Tabbing or Yomping a 5 miler is a long way to go just to die at the end of it. I could have never been one of the chosen few.
All this prep, all this research you put in, all the work to do the trek and everyone that makes a video on this part of SAS training still calling in Pen y 'Fan' with an F sound... the F is a V sound - has been this way in Wales for thousands of years. It's like going to Norwich and saying NorWich with a W sound or going to Reading and calling it REEding.. The name for this mountain has been used for centuries now. Please learn to say it correctly.
Sad munter the Y is an A you should mention that too but something tell me you don't no welsh
Good effort, but trainers no no and weapons needed to be carried.
before you get there, youre already psychologically defeated by self doubt and things you shouldnt of done, youre in the fitness world and dont prepare, crazy. those wooden gates is where i started and i ran u pen y fan, corn du and fan y big, no previous running training for prep but deadlifting for P.R's wasnt out of breath once (probably because im on and off strength training and cardiovascular training).
i did a mile and half and came 1st, i remember when i did it for army pre selection lad would shoot off 1st and i knew they will be fucked 3 laps in and so they was.
proper preparation prevents poor performance.
What is electrolytes ? As a French I’m not aware of that
Second questions Jim what Mic 🎤 are you using ?
Both of you Nice effort 🤙
So electrolytes are salts: magnesium, potassium, sodium.
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This was nothing special for me, just a couple of ex military guys who felt they needed to look cool & show off for YoubTube viewers, look what i can do & in the dark & in a tee shirt to show off my big arms ...... Bet he regretted that move but had to go along with it not to bring out the wimp........ Yaddah yaddah yaddah yawn! 🥱
The ex military guys were Royal Marines Commandos. It might be worth looking up on who they are and what they do. Both the Royal Marines and the British Army's Parachute Regiment have both traditionally been units that supplied candidates for the S.B.S and S.A.S .
Both these units are regarded as elite within the H.M. forces and respected worldwide.
@@chrisholland7367 Yes ........ Royal Marine Commandos not making any point just trying to look good for the camera........ I know quite alot about the SBS & the SAS actually thank you ........ As I said ........ All I saw here were your typical ex squaddie bigheads ....... nothing special! I understand what the Royal Marines provide but I don't think these two would be accepted into the elite due to the oversized egos......... Now go lecture someone else as I ain't interested!