I appreciate your recommendations for leveling thinner, in the video you can see I have a bottle of it. I use it often. The point of this video is to show you that the standard thinner is compatible with most paints for airbrushing, more than leveling thinner. This is for people who may be in a situation where they can't afford different thinners or have limited room. Thank you!
The " Mr.Color Leveling Thinner " is better than the " normal " thinner IMHO. It lets the paint dry a little slower ( you can barely notice ) so it can level off and leaves a much smoother finish. Mr.Color leveling thinner is the only one I use after 60 years of kit building ! Once I tried it, I was sold ! Sometimes hard to find, but if you do, stock up !!! Perfect airbrush thinner !!!
It's not better. You dont always need or want the paint retarder in the thinner. It's used by newer painters to get around having to practice but is not a replacement for experience.
Great channel mate, love your relaxed style of presentation and theme of testing alternatives. I'm with you 100% on MrH thinners only like others have said, I go for the Mr H, levelling thinner which give you a smoother finish as it takes a little longer to dry. For your European viewers, it also works with Humbrol and Revell enamels and with Sovereign (Colourcoats) paints for those that can get them. All the best from cold wet and windy old England.
Mr Color Leveling Thinner rocks too. It often works better with compatible paints than their own recommended Thinner! Nice channel, like what you're doing. A+
I've never tried it on hataka before so please try not to hate me if it doesn't work haha. I'd mix a little in something other than the airbrush in case it turns into a stringy mess like it did with AK 3rd gen. If it looks a little grainy at first it should work, just have to stir it more. Grainy=good, stringy=bad.
Mr. Leveling thinner works great with urethane(2k) clear coats as well. Great stuff. I've never tried the regular Mr. color thinner though. If I can't use the leveling thinner I usually just use regular cheap lacquer thinner with Model Master and testors paints.
Interesting results. Ill have to revisit using the Mr Color thinner with vallejo. One thing I have noticed in my testing is Tamiya lacquer thinner does not like testors enamels, but like you said the Mr Color thinner works great.
It works surprisingly well. I hated spraying Vallejo before I started using lacquer thinner. Just be prepared for it to look "grainy" at first. It takes a few seconds of mixing to really cut into it. Thank you for watching!
@@SCM223 I got around to testing this out and I don't know if they changed the Revell Aqua color formula between batches, but the Mr Color thinner totally broke the paint apart and clumped up similar to AK 3rd gen. Maybe my jars are different to yours? It worked perfectly with Vallejo Model Color which is nice.
@@johnathan133 I'm sorry! Maybe so, I'm not sure. From what I understand the formula for Revell Aqua varies by country so it's possible. Did you try it with multiple colors or just one? It's not out of the realm of possibility that the full line won't work, it's not supposed to work with any after all.
Thanks for the cheaper option as my last retailer was changing twice as much and will be doing business with SH as you mentioned, so knowning that education is expensive I must pay attention! "All day I'm to words that teach me"! The Fixx (save by zero)
Yes I placed order shorty after the heads up and today received order and video tape it as never knowing what type of individual packing stuff and was shorted on bottles of 400 and now my video file is to big to send so now I will have to go Verizon and find how to send scale hobbyists the opening of order but also sent email there's no number to call everything is computer done oh boy I sent email for them to check inventory against on hand and shipment so now I will put more into than my old supplier so now on for a nightmare to save a few bucks.
@@brockbeckstedt6483 I've bought literally thousands in stuff from them and never had a problem getting an order fixed if it was missing something. That only happened once though. Also never had a problem contacting them through email.
Never tried their regular thinner. Mr leveling thinner is my go to. So call Mr leveling thinner unicorn tears. So I wonder if their leveling thinner would do the trick?
For whatever reason, it won't thin enamels or acrylics like the regular thinner does. I wish it would because I also really like it. Thanks for watching!
Using Mr. Color to thin acrylics was something unexpected. Of course, I will try it, specially with MIG paints because they don't stand any different thinner than MIG's
I've had really good luck using it with Mig and Vallejo acrylics. Others are hit and miss so just test a little before you commit. It's crazy that it works with any of them.
My gauge has weird increments but it looks to be around 22psi. I would say as a rule of thumb, a little higher than paints like Tamiya or Mr color when thinned with lacquer thinner but lower than Vallejo with their acrylic thinner. Sorry I hope that makes sense.
Wow Great video I just bought Vallejo model air and watched allot of videos on mixing paint I was left really confused Do you have a ratio you use? For tamiya and Vallejo model air thank you
I wish I could tell you there was a set ratio but it varies so much. Even within the same brand, it can vary between different colors. So, there's a rule of thumb that a lot of people follow including myself. Mix your paint really really well, then take a drop of the paint and touch it to the inside of your airbrush reservoir. It should run down freely but not like alcohol or thin cement. Similar to the consistency of whole milk. Test your mixed paint on a piece of paper or something. If it splatters or speckles, it still needs to be thinned, if it "spiderwebs" it's too thin. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions I'll do my best to answer them. Thank you!
Sorry I also forgot to add, most of the Vallejo Air I've used didn't need to be thinned. It's supposed to be ready to spray right out of the bottle, but that's not always the case.
Better late than never! I personally use acetone after any paint. I get the small cheap bottles labeled for nail polish removal as it's a little cleaner than the hardware store acetone.
For the Mig Acrylic it's about 50/50 but it varies so much from paint to paint. I usually go by consistency, think whole milk or do the "drop test" where you place a drop on the inside edge of the airbrush reservoir, if it runs freely you're good. Eventually you'll be about to tell just by watching the way the paint moves while mixing it.
Hey SSM, I've been missing your content. Any chance you can update your post on Mr Levelling Thinner compatibility with the new Ammo Mig Atom paint line? I've seen some saying it isn't but most others say it is. Hope everything is alright with you.
I have to be completely honest with you in saying I haven't bought any new Ammo products for a long time and won't be in the future. They decided to get political. Sorry about that.
Ya know I'd like to try and avoid politics as much as possible but it's the same ideology that's gotten its hooks into a lot of other games and hobbies.
Mr Leveling thinner works great for solvent based acylics like Tamiya. It actually makes them spray like a lacquer based paint. Use Mr. Leveling thinner for for glosses / semi glosses. Use Mr color or Mr Rapid thinner for flats and metallics. You can't use lacquer thinners with water based acrylics. Water and lacquer doesn't mix. So no ak, no vallejo, no ScaleColor or Metal and Alchemy basically all the dropper bottle acrylics. Tamiya and Mr. Hobby acrylics use a solvent base and so they work just fine. Congrats on 1000 subs.
I'm not sure if you watched the video but you actually can use the standard Mr Thinner on water based acrylics like Vallejo, Ammo, Revell etc. The only one that didn't work was AK 3rd gen. I gave a demonstration of that. Leveling Thinner however will not work with the water based or enamels like the standard will. Thank you!
@@Allessio777 I've never used it with any of Badger's paints. That being said, it's polyurethane like Vallejo so it may work. I just don't want to say it will with certainty.
@@SCM223 If it works with the AMMO One shot primer, it will work with Stynalrez primer, becuase it's the exact same product...ony rebranded by AMMO...but overall you odnt need to thin this primer!
Yep but not all of them as I mentioned. Another commenter said it didn't work with his Revell Aqua while it works with mine so there seems to be variance within brands as well. But, it seems to work universally with Vallejo and Ammo acrylics, just test a little before you commit.
I appreciate your recommendations for leveling thinner, in the video you can see I have a bottle of it. I use it often. The point of this video is to show you that the standard thinner is compatible with most paints for airbrushing, more than leveling thinner. This is for people who may be in a situation where they can't afford different thinners or have limited room. Thank you!
The " Mr.Color Leveling Thinner " is better than the " normal " thinner IMHO. It lets the paint dry a little slower ( you can barely notice ) so it can level off and leaves a much smoother finish. Mr.Color leveling thinner is the only one I use after 60 years of kit building ! Once I tried it, I was sold ! Sometimes hard to find, but if you do, stock up !!! Perfect airbrush thinner !!!
It's great stuff! Thank you for watching!
It's not better. You dont always need or want the paint retarder in the thinner. It's used by newer painters to get around having to practice but is not a replacement for experience.
Great information man. Congrats on the channel growth. Love your straightforward, good sense advice.
I appreciate that and thank you!
Great channel mate, love your relaxed style of presentation and theme of testing alternatives.
I'm with you 100% on MrH thinners only like others have said, I go for the Mr H, levelling thinner which give you a smoother finish as it takes a little longer to dry. For your European viewers, it also works with Humbrol and Revell enamels and with Sovereign (Colourcoats) paints for those that can get them.
All the best from cold wet and windy old England.
Thank you! That's great information and I've pinned it so my viewers across the pond will see it.
Mr Color Leveling Thinner rocks too. It often works better with compatible paints than their own recommended Thinner!
Nice channel, like what you're doing. A+
It's great stuff. I just wish it worked with the enamels and acrylics like that standard does. Thank you for watching!
Great tips on this channel, this one is a gem. Gonna try the thinner on hataka acrylics....they are a pain to spray.
I've never tried it on hataka before so please try not to hate me if it doesn't work haha. I'd mix a little in something other than the airbrush in case it turns into a stringy mess like it did with AK 3rd gen. If it looks a little grainy at first it should work, just have to stir it more. Grainy=good, stringy=bad.
I have some army painter and citadel acrylics around. I'll give it a try
Mr. Leveling thinner works great with urethane(2k) clear coats as well. Great stuff. I've never tried the regular Mr. color thinner though. If I can't use the leveling thinner I usually just use regular cheap lacquer thinner with Model Master and testors paints.
Interesting results. Ill have to revisit using the Mr Color thinner with vallejo. One thing I have noticed in my testing is Tamiya lacquer thinner does not like testors enamels, but like you said the Mr Color thinner works great.
It works surprisingly well. I hated spraying Vallejo before I started using lacquer thinner. Just be prepared for it to look "grainy" at first. It takes a few seconds of mixing to really cut into it. Thank you for watching!
@@SCM223 I got around to testing this out and I don't know if they changed the Revell Aqua color formula between batches, but the Mr Color thinner totally broke the paint apart and clumped up similar to AK 3rd gen. Maybe my jars are different to yours? It worked perfectly with Vallejo Model Color which is nice.
@@johnathan133 I'm sorry! Maybe so, I'm not sure. From what I understand the formula for Revell Aqua varies by country so it's possible. Did you try it with multiple colors or just one? It's not out of the realm of possibility that the full line won't work, it's not supposed to work with any after all.
@@SCM223 I tried it on three different colors and sheens. The gloss orange one was the worst out of all of them. At least Vallejo worked good.
Love your vids and hoping your channel takes off!
Thank you! I hope so too, we've got to keep this hobby going! It's less and less popular in the US.
I like your channel!
Thank you!
I didn’t think it would work with enamel I’ll have to try it but I use it for all the acrylics thanks for the vid
Yeah it's just hot enough to handle them. Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the cheaper option as my last retailer was changing twice as much and will be doing business with SH as you mentioned, so knowning that education is expensive I must pay attention! "All day I'm to words that teach me"! The Fixx (save by zero)
Happy to have helped! Believe me I understand completely.
Yes I placed order shorty after the heads up and today received order and video tape it as never knowing what type of individual packing stuff and was shorted on bottles of 400 and now my video file is to big to send so now I will have to go Verizon and find how to send scale hobbyists the opening of order but also sent email there's no number to call everything is computer done oh boy I sent email for them to check inventory against on hand and shipment so now I will put more into than my old supplier so now on for a nightmare to save a few bucks.
@@brockbeckstedt6483 I've bought literally thousands in stuff from them and never had a problem getting an order fixed if it was missing something. That only happened once though. Also never had a problem contacting them through email.
Never tried their regular thinner. Mr leveling thinner is my go to. So call Mr leveling thinner unicorn tears. So I wonder if their leveling thinner would do the trick?
For whatever reason, it won't thin enamels or acrylics like the regular thinner does. I wish it would because I also really like it. Thanks for watching!
Using Mr. Color to thin acrylics was something unexpected. Of course, I will try it, specially with MIG paints because they don't stand any different thinner than MIG's
I've had really good luck using it with Mig and Vallejo acrylics. Others are hit and miss so just test a little before you commit. It's crazy that it works with any of them.
Thank you!
Going to order one. What airpressure are you using with ammo mig paints. And Vallejo primer?
My gauge has weird increments but it looks to be around 22psi. I would say as a rule of thumb, a little higher than paints like Tamiya or Mr color when thinned with lacquer thinner but lower than Vallejo with their acrylic thinner. Sorry I hope that makes sense.
@@SCM223 Thank you! Ive got a good starting point now. 🍻
Wow Great video I just bought Vallejo model air and watched allot of videos on mixing paint I was left really confused
Do you have a ratio you use? For tamiya and Vallejo model air thank you
I wish I could tell you there was a set ratio but it varies so much. Even within the same brand, it can vary between different colors. So, there's a rule of thumb that a lot of people follow including myself. Mix your paint really really well, then take a drop of the paint and touch it to the inside of your airbrush reservoir. It should run down freely but not like alcohol or thin cement. Similar to the consistency of whole milk. Test your mixed paint on a piece of paper or something. If it splatters or speckles, it still needs to be thinned, if it "spiderwebs" it's too thin. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions I'll do my best to answer them. Thank you!
Sorry I also forgot to add, most of the Vallejo Air I've used didn't need to be thinned. It's supposed to be ready to spray right out of the bottle, but that's not always the case.
@@SCM223 Thank you really appreciate it
Sorry that I am late to the party, but once you have used Mr Colour Thinner what do you then use for airbrush cleaner?
Better late than never! I personally use acetone after any paint. I get the small cheap bottles labeled for nail polish removal as it's a little cleaner than the hardware store acetone.
Excellent tip! What’s the paint to thinner ratio you used?
For the Mig Acrylic it's about 50/50 but it varies so much from paint to paint. I usually go by consistency, think whole milk or do the "drop test" where you place a drop on the inside edge of the airbrush reservoir, if it runs freely you're good. Eventually you'll be about to tell just by watching the way the paint moves while mixing it.
@@SCM223, thanks! Very useful!
Hey SSM, I've been missing your content.
Any chance you can update your post on Mr Levelling Thinner compatibility with the new Ammo Mig Atom paint line?
I've seen some saying it isn't but most others say it is.
Hope everything is alright with you.
I have to be completely honest with you in saying I haven't bought any new Ammo products for a long time and won't be in the future. They decided to get political. Sorry about that.
@@SCM223 How so?
Ya know I'd like to try and avoid politics as much as possible but it's the same ideology that's gotten its hooks into a lot of other games and hobbies.
Mr Leveling thinner works great for solvent based acylics like Tamiya. It actually makes them spray like a lacquer based paint. Use Mr. Leveling thinner for for glosses / semi glosses. Use Mr color or Mr Rapid thinner for flats and metallics. You can't use lacquer thinners with water based acrylics. Water and lacquer doesn't mix. So no ak, no vallejo, no ScaleColor or Metal and Alchemy basically all the dropper bottle acrylics. Tamiya and Mr. Hobby acrylics use a solvent base and so they work just fine. Congrats on 1000 subs.
I'm not sure if you watched the video but you actually can use the standard Mr Thinner on water based acrylics like Vallejo, Ammo, Revell etc. The only one that didn't work was AK 3rd gen. I gave a demonstration of that. Leveling Thinner however will not work with the water based or enamels like the standard will. Thank you!
How it do with Stynylrez primers?
@@Allessio777 I've never used it with any of Badger's paints. That being said, it's polyurethane like Vallejo so it may work. I just don't want to say it will with certainty.
@@SCM223 Actually you have this primer in your video. Ammo one shot is repacked Stynylrez.
@@SCM223 If it works with the AMMO One shot primer, it will work with Stynalrez primer, becuase it's the exact same product...ony rebranded by AMMO...but overall you odnt need to thin this primer!
Acrylics thinning with mr color thinner?? That's new to me
Yep but not all of them as I mentioned. Another commenter said it didn't work with his Revell Aqua while it works with mine so there seems to be variance within brands as well. But, it seems to work universally with Vallejo and Ammo acrylics, just test a little before you commit.