A "Sujud Syukur" after a great victory, I can see he put Faith in his match against KNEE, who knows how much he sacrificed to become a legend A respectable player indeed.
Everyone Kept complaining why knee was not doing hell sweeps . This set should answer the questions. Side Stepped it .. Blocked it twice .. knee more than most of us here on how to deal with him and if he can not .. It's probably that he can not find an opening .. Keep in mind he knows every character here okay.
First electric knee had was punished, first hellsweep was jumped and punished, and 2 of the next 3 hellsweeps were all punished as well. Hellsweeps don't work against Arslan. Period. That's why he wasn't doing them often. With all due respect to everyone here...You're not better than Knee, if he didn't do something, he didn't do it for a reason.
9-10 months ago TMM covers about arslan ash on how amazing this man will be... getting hard time on visa, nowhere to sleep, to eat.. when he won the evo japan... dang he proved how amazing both his skill and his patience on handling the tough life he had to face.. and right now, he's the winner of EVO 2019.. this is as good as any cinderella story they can be and also so touching because the amount of dedication and never giving up. well deserved win, and also to Knee you're a great man too. even people doubting your performance on crunch time, you will always be revered and respected. those two are really two of the best player in tekken 7 history. but people like qudans, JDCR, lowhigh, saint and others too are an amazing talent that you can never countdown... thats why compared to smash or any FGC game right now, tekken is miles ahead of others
This reminds me of that one quote "The world's best swordsman does not fear the world's second best swordsman. He does, however, fear the guy who just throws his sword all over the place, and might even accidentally beat him every now and then."
Are you suggesting that Arslan beat Knee by accident? Arslan is no scrub. He plays super compact with almost robot-like punishment. His spacing is godlike. He has perfected the style Knee invented. He has also beaten Knee 4 times as of now.
@@mazymetric8267 First of all, look at the date of comments before posting answers. I didn't even remember posting this. My point was that Knee figured out he couldn't beat Arslan in a fundamentals game, so he went for DJ/Kaz and tried to win by going for 50/50's and a riskier/more aggressive gameplan. Problem is, that just goes against Knee's usual playstyle to the degree that he ended up playing like he usually does anyway(i.e. super safe and super clean) and ended up losing. On the other hand, actual inferior players like Jimmy and Boa(who are good, but not as good as Knee) actually did manage to beat Arslan, because they didn't try to play a fundamentals game against him to begin with.
I think the koreans are stuck in their own head trying to figure out a certain set of ways to beat any characters being played by any player. Problem is they would never take risks outside calculated moves to do so. Jimmy seems to take bigger risks, is more aggressive and succeeded in beating arslan like that. Knee flat out refuses to play like that. Its like trying to reinvent your own play style just to beat 1 guy. Its pretty absurd to manage that when you KNOW your style beats anyone else. That hump is really hard to get over, especially in tournament settings.
That is indeed a very profound and philosophical thought. IMHO it applies to ALL competitive sports, not just Tekken. Even highly paid and acclaimed athletes face this at least once in their career. I guess JDCR would be a good example?
Why do a lot of people are implying that JimmyJTran is better than Arslan or can always beat him. For some reason I am sure Arslan is gonna pick Geese next time against Jimmy to produce better results than the last time.
@@ShavezBaig It is because every time when they both fought the result was always consistent , JimmyJTran risk playstyle have a chance to win against arslan. Unlike knee which seems so 1 sided most of the time.
Here we go again. It's not about being aggressive or being defensive. It's about not doing what Arslan expects you to do. There's a point in Tekken where you get so good and know all the best options that an even better player can predict you doing the best option over and over again. Sometimes you have to do the slightly worse option to keep yourself from being "downloaded". The scariest thing in Tekken is the player who knows when to do something so stupid that no one is prepared to defend against it. Look at Street Fighter. Wake up supers are so stupid that they catch "good" players all the time. It makes them mad. Completely disrupts their gamelay. You cannot "download" a stupid player who is only pretending to be stupid.
@@ShavezBaig I am not gonna say arslan is levels ahead of Jimmy Either ,, Jimmy might not have the same high reaction but he understands how arslan thinks .. he thinks like arslan .. thus for the jimmy vs arslan match up .. they are always on the last round .. just like evo japan and WSOE .. in one arslan got the last round and in WSOE jimmy got the last round .. lets not become fan boys and give jimmy some credit .. i am also from pakistan
It's true, but Season 1 tournaments were really boring(JDCR vs Saint everytime) it became hype when Qudans and Knee stepped up their games and started defeating them. I believe if Arslan had showed up sooner, people would've already started complaining about seeing him take every tournament he enters, I mean, out of 1900 players, only Knee actually had a chance, it's crazy.
Totally joining you on Arslan playstyle, this man as one of the most admirable defense i ever saw in competitive tekken. His playstyle is very concise but almost perfect in this way. People wanting flashier combos don't really understand how much is on the line here, and how you should play against monsters like knee. Arslan dominated, but this match was so tense, so well played from both side, i was on the edge on my seat.
I think knee was afraid to go for the 50/50 set up. He needs a successful hell sweep to set up the 50/50 I think he was rightfully afraid to try against arslan. Which ask the question, why pick Kazuya and not do his 50/50?
@@bluelion7342 if you're getting bombarded by d f 1 then it can be hard to hellsweep (Unless hellsweep crushed d f 1 I might be wrong but I'm not sure)
@@datfacepriceless3442 her df 1 I think is 13f. A hell sweep isn't 13f and you need to do an actual movement to do it. So yeah a df1 is going to beat it every time. And arslan was sidestepping left too. Knee was never going to get a successful sweep. But arslan new this, perfect anti Kazuya strategy
I think knee tried to do it but when your hell sweep keep getting side stepped and blocked ..it's not that fun ..i mean look at the first round at the 3rd match .. 2 hell sweeps got blocked ... Why the hell would he still do 50-50 after that .. I think knee probably knows more than us here
Honestly speaking Knee would have had a higher chance of beating Arslan if he played riskier with his Kazuya. He did say that to beat Arslan you have to put him in the 50/50 situation but when Knee picked Kazuya he just went full turtle. He could've used more df+2 when being pressured, risked with his 50/50 wavedash into a hell sweep or ws+2. He just played like Knee himself even though he knew what to do and picked Kazuya. Must've been why JimmyJTran was always almost the one to put Arslan on the brinks because Jimmy plays Bryan like a madman as well as Boaluvb's Kazuya which was so good at playing Kazuya crazy. Goodluck next time Knee, Arslan played like a true god killer and really deserved the win. Hope to see more of Arslan in more tournaments and hope to see more of the Pakistan Tekken Community!
@@Foxy-qv2hg I know. But that was after matches of Arslan winning. If you look at the first match when Knee picked Kazuya, he was able to land most of those cd+3+4 where if he used ws+2 he could've had a higher reward. But knowing Knee he did not want to risk being punished hard on his 50/50s which is why he mostly just used cd+3+4. He barely hell sweeped with Kazuya when he had momentum, instead going for cd+3+4 and loses momentum. If you watch how Boaluvb initiates Kazuya's 50/50 you'll know straight away how Arslan would've lost to that (sadly there's no clip of their match) but Knee was just not that kind of player.
@@Yamadaaaa009 you're right, but also arslan is not the same he was in evo japan! He trained with qudans in 2nd KSA tournament! That's why he is now better against mishimas
Honestly I'm getting kinda tired of seeing Arslan's K-Style Prime play. You can almost set your watch to when the safe poking options will come out. But Knee does himself no favors in playing safe against a guy who also plays safe but better. The worst part is Knee even knows not to play turtle against Arslan yet he still does it. Knee is just too Korean to play any other way.
@@Anomaly188 That was what I observed as well. Knee knows all well how to play against Arslan, just picking Kazuya shows he knew what to do. But in the match we saw him playing too safe. I kinda want to see how well JDCR would do against Arslan as seeing JDCR's playstyle changed when he shifted back to AK. Hope to see more of Arslan in future tournaments so that he could go against more players.
Seeing how Arslan plays Tekken isn't boring, but it just looks...... scary. Like you guys saw how Knee takes a huge breath after beating him a few times?
Arslan showed he was the better fight numerous times. Good fight from them both, I don't think anyone was holding back and why would they at a championship.
who said who was holding back? i think you are talking out of your ass lol. i think people are only concerned with arslan poking and turtling aka hit and run which makes for a boring play style but his crazy reactions and reflexes make up for it. it's like this guy's a robot who's able to predict any move you throw at him and he auto counters it.
Arslan fundamentals is very on-point. 4:16. Arslan sees the possible WS4 since Knee just used d3 so he backdashes and gets the whiff, then punishes with f+3, 2 and performs a beautiful 3-tiger combo that ends the set. Are you not entertained?
The dude must never lose at rock paper scissors either. How tf can someone defend like that?? At this point it seems like the only thing that will hit this dude are Yoshi unblockables. Just incredible.
All of you complaining this and that Arslan in EVO Japan was Different as compared to EVO USA FFS please try to understand that he had training with best mishima player on planet Qudans in 2nd KSA tournament. so it's obvious that he knows more about Kazuya & Devil Jin.
Thing with knee compared to boa luv is that boa luv is using the wave dash for a lot more mid moves and while rising moves perfectly animation canceled after his wave dash, the guy has some crazy wave dash that reminds you of old tekken games tas bots hiding his intentions perfectly making you gamble during defending against that guy.
I never expected tekken (my all time favorite fighting game) to get to this point in our life time where we have tournaments for this, it’s crazy and I’m all for it.
Problem Knee made @10:04 - is he hesitated his decisions and didn’t lock him down properly at first so he wouldn’t have time to side step. Knee shouldn’t have just dashed up and hellsweeped. That’s some like green rank tactic. First use a good poke or tracking move that may be safe then hellsweep if you can input it really fast like Boaluv does
Yes I was sweating my ass watching the stream. I shouted and was nearly crying when Knee won against Anakin so we truly got the final that we all wanted to see. I wanted Knee so badly to win this time against Arslan ... Cheering , screaming , shouting at 4am in the morning. That shit was so emotional to watch ..
So as I observed.. Arslan defensive state are mostly seen in fights against Knee. His fights when he used Geese however, you can see he's playing in a much more aggressive state. Knee's disadvantage in the first place ofc was how he needed to win extra rounds just to restart the match. It must be stressful to endure a fight against the guy who gave you nightmares. And it's the Grand Final for God's sake, ofc both sides would be playing safe and defensive. There will be lots of poking.
I really do think the only true way to take out Arslan is just throwing the kitchen sink at him and make him expect the unexpected because he plays the best defensively right now
I think TMM could easily solidify himself as a community personality along with markman, Aris, Rip, Steve, etc. He should do commentary at a tournament sometime
As an ex-casual player and nowadays purely spectator, I can about recognise that Arslan is playing incredible Tekken, but I can't quite make out exactly /what/ he's doing that's good. He's so many levels above me I can't even decipher his gameplay 😂
not to mention his ability of spacing, punish, i lowkey could assert that his 'fuzzy guard' is insane, just on another level far from existing players. covering both mid and low at once very effectively, while giving out only small lows like d3
God, watching this match was just... I was practically yelling at the screen, just HELLSWEEP HIM! That's the whole reason you picked this character! There were times when Knee was just staring at Arslan, waiting for his next move, but he absolutely couldn't afford to be in that position.
everyone arslan this arslan that yet nobody give some applause to the japanese players who did well this year Evo Tekken, 4 japan players out of top 8.. FT10 Japan (inviting Arslan few months ago) did improve their overall results.
It was Japanese players who were talk of the Town and unbeaten GOD of Tekken till Arsalan arrived to the shore. So, him getting all the attention is perfectly justified I guess.
He adjusts his style when opponent makes move this is muscle memory it does't mean he already know it means he remembers the movements of opponent and muscle memory does the rest.
Those side steps and step forward and back is hard, because you have to time it right. Its insane how Arslan avoids just a few mm from the opponent attacks and then within a second to do a special move to atack. You have to move really fast on the joystick.
I'm not an expert at Tekken, but I think the reason Knee was doing those 3~4 roll move against Arslan, and the fact that it was working is because of how similar it looks to hell sweep. It looks like Arslan has the ability to react to hell sweep based on the animation and also block ff3, so that 3~4 is sort of like a truer mixup in a sense. The fact that it hit numerous times kinda shows that it sas working.
The 2 players who have given arslan trouble besides boa are shadow and jimmy but SPECIFICALLY bryan df1 chain spam and shadow's claudio doing excessive jabs. There must be something to this to open up arslan's style I think
Arslan Ash is very dangerous player i saw every match i can see that Asrlan Ash change fighting style on every round and he beat every one with Geese but for Knee he fight with his Primery player Kazumi. Unbelievable Arslan Ash i wish you good luck you nailed it man.
Mr.Naps won because Arslan was off the flight straight into the match .. He flew NY to West Coast and was late for the match ... plus their matches are always to the wire both are so good at adopting ...
Knee kaz is great but mr. loves kaz is amazing. He’s ready to take risk. He’s a character specialist he understand playing Kazuya take some risk. I watched love and he wave dash into while rising 2 a lot makes kazuya more deadly and it tracks side walking opponents very well. I started practicing this with my kazuya so I can have more options out of wave dash
Knee has a better Kaz than BoA. The difference is that BoA surprised Arslan by going on extreme offense. It generally doesn't work so a lot of people don't expect it at high level.
Before Evo Japan ...nobody knew who Arslan Ash was....now the entire tekken world knows his name. No longer Tekken is the domain of Japanese and Korean players..... Respect for Arslan Ash...a true hero...
You know what, I can't help but feel sad for Knee. Most people cheer *against* Knee... mostly because they know he's the god of Tekken, and so people who beat him are legendary. Still, you can't deny this is one of the most iconic wins in recent Tekken history.
Boa can probably do a 16 frame hellsweep , his execution is better than knee , which allowed him to rush with kaz , when he plays it’s like jab into instant hell sweep
It's been first time to comment on your video just to insure you that both matches he lost because of travelling issues. At first in Japan Evo he lost because of 2 days of travelling due to visa issue. He had nominal sleep and very much heart broken. Therefore he lost against Bova louvb. Otherwise I m sure if Bova louvb comes to Pakistan and take apart in any tourneys, he might not be able to make top 50 TBH. I know in Pakistan we have talented Tekken killers. They will not give him a stand. And in Evo USA his flight delayed and he already had 30 hours for travelling and no sleep and keep in mind that he still gave very much hard time to Mr.Nap. I m sure he would have won both matches otherwise. 🤗🤗🤗
say what you want, but kazumi's d/f+1 is broken. whenever knee blocks it, he sidesteps, arshlan throws another one and forces knee to block it again. it has amazing tracking. and of course, makes kazumi move foward too.
According to me, knee lost cauz of the restricted movements devs implemented in tekken 7. knee just couldn't even side stepped arslan's df1, couldn't even back dashed out of pressure. that was crazy. plus he didn't wanted to play aggressively so the only option that had was GUESS. and we know no one can guess right every time...
I personally think knee respected Arslan way too much in the first two games with kazuya. Not a single ch df2 was made nor even a single hellsweep that landed. I actually think kazuya is the perfect character against Arslan's playstyle. No 50/50 mixup either. I think it's just safe to assume that Knee was hella nervous.
Im a huge Knee fan and it was so hard to admit and agree Arslan is a better player than Knee...but after watching the grand finals again i could definitly say that now he is a better player than him. Big respect to Arslan and huge love and support for Knee!
i think knee wanted to launch her df1,2, but in the end ash never ended the string, and because of that knee never tried to do anything after blocking df1.
@@ibrahimmusic5129 arslan beat knees steve on a ft 10 in japan. he knows how to play against steve. on the other hand knee beat arslan in 2 ft10 sets with his deviljin.
I don't think BoalubB can defeat Arslan again because Arslan probably lost to him because Arslan had 0 tournament experience and could not adapt quickly unlike how he did it today from Knee going crazy with DJ and getting a match to Arslan Realizing that and blocking 2 hellsweeps in a row and doing 3-0 on knee. So it's not like Arslan can not answer Aggressive play style. Every top 8 can answer Aggressive play style. And for Jimmy, He thinks just like Arslan, He feels just what Arslan feels. Making their Sets always coming to the Final Final Round and after that luck takes over their sets, where it preferred Arslan in EVO JAPAN and Jimmy in WSOE
People saying Knee needed to play the 50/50 are silly. Knee choose Kazuya to launcher df+1,2 and to crush jabs with CD+3+4. In relation to Jimmy beating Arslan, let's not forget low soccer kick is a low that you can't see and is +4 after it hits. Arslan tried to duck it but Jimmy was throwing soo many mids out Arslan couldn't get the read. And when the low landed Arslan was frozen at +4 and was afraid to press buttons.
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He used to be an adventurer. Then he took an arslan to the knee.
That's how he became kneeless
Hehe
That's a...Knee slapper
*puts on shades*
"Yieaaaaah!"
You are a genius
That was smooth.
The moment I saw Kazuya, I immediatly thought to TMM.
I bet he was shock
thought
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 oops..... Edited.... Sorry😶
"Finally TMM after long 10 minutes waiting"
A "Sujud Syukur" after a great victory,
I can see he put Faith in his match against KNEE, who knows how much he sacrificed to become a legend
A respectable player indeed.
"start with bismillah, end it with alhamdulillah"
@@Snezeist I feel ya bro
@Evilz Review does one need to be indonesian or even malay to show their gratefulness to god?
@Evilz Review Really dude...I know this is a joke, but still really
Nice
What i like about the mainman ... is that he show respect and share his moments with the people and the community ...
Everyone Kept complaining why knee was not doing hell sweeps . This set should answer the questions. Side Stepped it .. Blocked it twice .. knee more than most of us here on how to deal with him and if he can not .. It's probably that he can not find an opening .. Keep in mind he knows every character here okay.
It’s always people behind a monitor thinking they know it all. Knee played his best but overall Arslan was just on to him, it’s that simple.
First electric knee had was punished, first hellsweep was jumped and punished, and 2 of the next 3 hellsweeps were all punished as well. Hellsweeps don't work against Arslan. Period. That's why he wasn't doing them often. With all due respect to everyone here...You're not better than Knee, if he didn't do something, he didn't do it for a reason.
Nutt_lemmings its true tho
Maybe knee should use kazumi too
@@angel-ow8mn it's not. Hellsweep is just a tool, it can work against everyone.
As aris said "its so hopeless, Arslan is so GOOD"
9-10 months ago TMM covers about arslan ash on how amazing this man will be... getting hard time on visa, nowhere to sleep, to eat.. when he won the evo japan... dang he proved how amazing both his skill and his patience on handling the tough life he had to face.. and right now, he's the winner of EVO 2019.. this is as good as any cinderella story they can be and also so touching because the amount of dedication and never giving up. well deserved win, and also to Knee you're a great man too. even people doubting your performance on crunch time, you will always be revered and respected. those two are really two of the best player in tekken 7 history. but people like qudans, JDCR, lowhigh, saint and others too are an amazing talent that you can never countdown... thats why compared to smash or any FGC game right now, tekken is miles ahead of others
Arslan is Kratos of the IRL Tekken scene. He slays the Tekken gods
This reminds me of that one quote "The world's best swordsman does not fear the world's second best swordsman. He does, however, fear the guy who just throws his sword all over the place, and might even accidentally beat him every now and then."
Are you suggesting that Arslan beat Knee by accident? Arslan is no scrub. He plays super compact with almost robot-like punishment. His spacing is godlike. He has perfected the style Knee invented. He has also beaten Knee 4 times as of now.
@@mazymetric8267 First of all, look at the date of comments before posting answers. I didn't even remember posting this.
My point was that Knee figured out he couldn't beat Arslan in a fundamentals game, so he went for DJ/Kaz and tried to win by going for 50/50's and a riskier/more aggressive gameplan. Problem is, that just goes against Knee's usual playstyle to the degree that he ended up playing like he usually does anyway(i.e. super safe and super clean) and ended up losing. On the other hand, actual inferior players like Jimmy and Boa(who are good, but not as good as Knee) actually did manage to beat Arslan, because they didn't try to play a fundamentals game against him to begin with.
@@yesimBata Oh I'm sorry. My bad. I misunderstood you.
You better write a 10 page apology@@mazymetric8267
I think the koreans are stuck in their own head trying to figure out a certain set of ways to beat any characters being played by any player. Problem is they would never take risks outside calculated moves to do so. Jimmy seems to take bigger risks, is more aggressive and succeeded in beating arslan like that. Knee flat out refuses to play like that. Its like trying to reinvent your own play style just to beat 1 guy. Its pretty absurd to manage that when you KNOW your style beats anyone else. That hump is really hard to get over, especially in tournament settings.
That is indeed a very profound and philosophical thought. IMHO it applies to ALL competitive sports, not just Tekken. Even highly paid and acclaimed athletes face this at least once in their career. I guess JDCR would be a good example?
Why do a lot of people are implying that JimmyJTran is better than Arslan or can always beat him. For some reason I am sure Arslan is gonna pick Geese next time against Jimmy to produce better results than the last time.
@@ShavezBaig It is because every time when they both fought the result was always consistent , JimmyJTran risk playstyle have a chance to win against arslan. Unlike knee which seems so 1 sided most of the time.
Here we go again. It's not about being aggressive or being defensive. It's about not doing what Arslan expects you to do.
There's a point in Tekken where you get so good and know all the best options that an even better player can predict you doing the best option over and over again.
Sometimes you have to do the slightly worse option to keep yourself from being "downloaded". The scariest thing in Tekken is the player who knows when to do something so stupid that no one is prepared to defend against it.
Look at Street Fighter. Wake up supers are so stupid that they catch "good" players all the time. It makes them mad. Completely disrupts their gamelay. You cannot "download" a stupid player who is only pretending to be stupid.
@@ShavezBaig I am not gonna say arslan is levels ahead of Jimmy Either ,, Jimmy might not have the same high reaction but he understands how arslan thinks .. he thinks like arslan .. thus for the jimmy vs arslan match up .. they are always on the last round .. just like evo japan and WSOE .. in one arslan got the last round and in WSOE jimmy got the last round .. lets not become fan boys and give jimmy some credit .. i am also from pakistan
I don't get why people are complaining about certain play styles being boring.
They're playing to win lol.
It's true, but Season 1 tournaments were really boring(JDCR vs Saint everytime) it became hype when Qudans and Knee stepped up their games and started defeating them. I believe if Arslan had showed up sooner, people would've already started complaining about seeing him take every tournament he enters, I mean, out of 1900 players, only Knee actually had a chance, it's crazy.
And people watch to get entertained. Nothing out of the mind. It's obviously boring to see a constant spam of jabs and mids. What do you not get?
BBQ Chicken exactly. You think these players be thinking, “I’ma play to entertain the audience.” Nope. They play to win.
Yeah when money and glory is on the line no one gives a shit about being exciting
Backdoorsk whoa only knew, don’t forget naps and Qurans
Arslan is such a humble, good person.
I wouldn't say humble.
@@lotuseatass why man
@@lotuseatass Why? Arslan always thinks he's mom always pray for him for his success.
To be a humble is important in sometimes.
lotusleeflip why isnt he humble? Do u even know what that word means?
Indeed
10:04
One of the example how Arslan’s reaction time is super fast or his reading is crazy.
He expected that, crazy read
Totally joining you on Arslan playstyle, this man as one of the most admirable defense i ever saw in competitive tekken. His playstyle is very concise but almost perfect in this way. People wanting flashier combos don't really understand how much is on the line here, and how you should play against monsters like knee. Arslan dominated, but this match was so tense, so well played from both side, i was on the edge on my seat.
You are a genius!
Very logical explanation.
like floyd mayweather of tekkeb
6:00 Jesus first hellsweep knee goes for and arslan instinctively neutral jumps it... dude is too insane
damn the intensity on their faces makes this so great.
Agreed, he didn't play 50-50 at all. I was frustrating so much due to him not playing Kazuya as he is supposed to be played.
I think knee was afraid to go for the 50/50 set up. He needs a successful hell sweep to set up the 50/50 I think he was rightfully afraid to try against arslan. Which ask the question, why pick Kazuya and not do his 50/50?
@@bluelion7342 if you're getting bombarded by d f 1 then it can be hard to hellsweep
(Unless hellsweep crushed d f 1
I might be wrong but I'm not sure)
@@datfacepriceless3442 her df 1 I think is 13f. A hell sweep isn't 13f and you need to do an actual movement to do it. So yeah a df1 is going to beat it every time. And arslan was sidestepping left too. Knee was never going to get a successful sweep. But arslan new this, perfect anti Kazuya strategy
I think knee tried to do it but when your hell sweep keep getting side stepped and blocked ..it's not that fun ..i mean look at the first round at the 3rd match .. 2 hell sweeps got blocked ... Why the hell would he still do 50-50 after that .. I think knee probably knows more than us here
should've abused the shit out of df2 at least
Honestly speaking Knee would have had a higher chance of beating Arslan if he played riskier with his Kazuya. He did say that to beat Arslan you have to put him in the 50/50 situation but when Knee picked Kazuya he just went full turtle. He could've used more df+2 when being pressured, risked with his 50/50 wavedash into a hell sweep or ws+2. He just played like Knee himself even though he knew what to do and picked Kazuya. Must've been why JimmyJTran was always almost the one to put Arslan on the brinks because Jimmy plays Bryan like a madman as well as Boaluvb's Kazuya which was so good at playing Kazuya crazy. Goodluck next time Knee, Arslan played like a true god killer and really deserved the win. Hope to see more of Arslan in more tournaments and hope to see more of the Pakistan Tekken Community!
bro he block all hell sweeps and WH 2 of DJV in Grand Finals 3rd Set
@@Foxy-qv2hg I know. But that was after matches of Arslan winning. If you look at the first match when Knee picked Kazuya, he was able to land most of those cd+3+4 where if he used ws+2 he could've had a higher reward. But knowing Knee he did not want to risk being punished hard on his 50/50s which is why he mostly just used cd+3+4. He barely hell sweeped with Kazuya when he had momentum, instead going for cd+3+4 and loses momentum. If you watch how Boaluvb initiates Kazuya's 50/50 you'll know straight away how Arslan would've lost to that (sadly there's no clip of their match) but Knee was just not that kind of player.
@@Yamadaaaa009 you're right, but also arslan is not the same he was in evo japan!
He trained with qudans in 2nd KSA tournament! That's why he is now better against mishimas
Honestly I'm getting kinda tired of seeing Arslan's K-Style Prime play. You can almost set your watch to when the safe poking options will come out. But Knee does himself no favors in playing safe against a guy who also plays safe but better. The worst part is Knee even knows not to play turtle against Arslan yet he still does it. Knee is just too Korean to play any other way.
@@Anomaly188 That was what I observed as well. Knee knows all well how to play against Arslan, just picking Kazuya shows he knew what to do. But in the match we saw him playing too safe. I kinda want to see how well JDCR would do against Arslan as seeing JDCR's playstyle changed when he shifted back to AK. Hope to see more of Arslan in future tournaments so that he could go against more players.
Seeing how Arslan plays Tekken isn't boring, but it just looks...... scary.
Like you guys saw how Knee takes a huge breath after beating him a few times?
Arslan is really on a league of his own, dethroning the Korean gods that we all knew were the best.
it is boring though, lame ass spam
@@TheBigEmstos ok let's spam df1 all the way to be evo champion amirite?
@@kaje3435 it's still boring.
Like prime Tyson
Thanking the Almighty after a huge victory... Alhamdulillah
We are proud of you my brother
sousui198 there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is Allahs final prophet
"And yeah, getting stomped there"
Arslan showed he was the better fight numerous times. Good fight from them both, I don't think anyone was holding back and why would they at a championship.
who said who was holding back? i think you are talking out of your ass lol. i think people are only concerned with arslan poking and turtling aka hit and run which makes for a boring play style but his crazy reactions and reflexes make up for it. it's like this guy's a robot who's able to predict any move you throw at him and he auto counters it.
@@shadowblitzo123 generally saw it on some comments here and there.
>here and there
>okay.
@@shadowblitzo123 dude chill lol it was still a good fight. Sometimes you need to play defensively and with everything on the line, it happens.
@@shadowblitzo123 Imagine being this unpleasant...
Love your commentary brother keep posting these!!
Arslan fundamentals is very on-point.
4:16. Arslan sees the possible WS4 since Knee just used d3 so he backdashes and gets the whiff, then punishes with f+3, 2 and performs a beautiful 3-tiger combo that ends the set.
Are you not entertained?
"That's a beautiful combo. Everyone shit themselves simultaneously in the arena, like literally."
The dude must never lose at rock paper scissors either. How tf can someone defend like that?? At this point it seems like the only thing that will hit this dude are Yoshi unblockables. Just incredible.
When Knee picked Kaz, I was really really expecting him to play like BoA!
But nah, it was just some poking
and besides, kazuya's poking is ass
Same, I thought that was Knee’s gameplan from the start
I just shook my head when I saw what actually happen
We all expected a much different kazuya from knee
@@alikhavari4250 Not really, I expected him to unleash the vortex on arslan, but it went the other way. He still played well, but not well enough imo.
@@wktryj i don't understand, that is exactly what i meant, we all expected a vortex kazuya
All of you complaining this and that
Arslan in EVO Japan was Different as compared to EVO USA
FFS please try to understand that he had training with best mishima player on planet Qudans in 2nd KSA tournament.
so it's obvious that he knows more about Kazuya & Devil Jin.
Great Commentary MainMan! Respect
3:01 sync snapping
Respect for both players. I'm happy for Arslan, also when he kneel to Allah. As a Muslim I'm so happy he did that.
Thing with knee compared to boa luv is that boa luv is using the wave dash for a lot more mid moves and while rising moves perfectly animation canceled after his wave dash, the guy has some crazy wave dash that reminds you of old tekken games tas bots hiding his intentions perfectly making you gamble during defending against that guy.
Been waiting for this upload
I never expected tekken (my all time favorite fighting game) to get to this point in our life time where we have tournaments for this, it’s crazy and I’m all for it.
"Fuck them kids." -Kazumi Mishima
Problem Knee made @10:04 - is he hesitated his decisions and didn’t lock him down properly at first so he wouldn’t have time to side step. Knee shouldn’t have just dashed up and hellsweeped. That’s some like green rank tactic. First use a good poke or tracking move that may be safe then hellsweep if you can input it really fast like Boaluv does
Yes I was sweating my ass watching the stream. I shouted and was nearly crying when Knee won against Anakin so we truly got the final that we all wanted to see. I wanted Knee so badly to win this time against Arslan ... Cheering , screaming , shouting at 4am in the morning. That shit was so emotional to watch ..
But in the end Arslan literally dominated knee with that insane pressure and consistent aggression.
Arslan is one of the best players in Pakistan. yet he beat the old Tekken gods. Welcome to the new Tekken God
Not god dear
So as I observed.. Arslan defensive state are mostly seen in fights against Knee.
His fights when he used Geese however, you can see he's playing in a much more aggressive state.
Knee's disadvantage in the first place ofc was how he needed to win extra rounds just to restart the match. It must be stressful to endure a fight against the guy who gave you nightmares.
And it's the Grand Final for God's sake, ofc both sides would be playing safe and defensive. There will be lots of poking.
I really do think the only true way to take out Arslan is just throwing the kitchen sink at him and make him expect the unexpected because he plays the best defensively right now
Tekken 7 is such a great game. I'm proud of following Tekken until now. Congrats to Arslan
I'm loving these post Evo videos
I think TMM could easily solidify himself as a community personality along with markman, Aris, Rip, Steve, etc. He should do commentary at a tournament sometime
15:17 here you hear TheMainBabySWE cheering for knee's comeback
As an ex-casual player and nowadays purely spectator, I can about recognise that Arslan is playing incredible Tekken, but I can't quite make out exactly /what/ he's doing that's good. He's so many levels above me I can't even decipher his gameplay 😂
not to mention his ability of spacing, punish, i lowkey could assert that his 'fuzzy guard' is insane, just on another level far from existing players. covering both mid and low at once very effectively, while giving out only small lows like d3
same
God, watching this match was just... I was practically yelling at the screen, just HELLSWEEP HIM! That's the whole reason you picked this character! There were times when Knee was just staring at Arslan, waiting for his next move, but he absolutely couldn't afford to be in that position.
Lol when knee picked devil jin arslan low parried every hell sweep that knee threw at him.
It's hard to hellsweep when you're getting bombarded by d f 1
@@datfacepriceless3442 You fucking idiot!
He low parried every hellsweep. You're such a dumbass. So, desperate to downplay arslan.
@@SalmanMalik-eo8uo wtf is wrong with u
TMM gonna upload 10 videos in a row now.
New Moto for MainMan "you'd have to have been there to experience it" happy i met you and KingJay, you guys are very humble.
watch the godly hellsweep dodge by arsalan at 6:00
Arslan is Knee's kryptonite, Knee may have invented the modern Korean playing style for Tekken but Arslan perfected it...
everyone arslan this arslan that yet nobody give some applause to the japanese players who did well this year Evo Tekken, 4 japan players out of top 8..
FT10 Japan (inviting Arslan few months ago) did improve their overall results.
It was Japanese players who were talk of the Town and unbeaten GOD of Tekken till Arsalan arrived to the shore. So, him getting all the attention is perfectly justified I guess.
He adjusts his style when opponent makes move this is muscle memory it does't mean he already know it means he remembers the movements of opponent and muscle memory does the rest.
That's true but a lot of people don't get your point.
Those side steps and step forward and back is hard, because you have to time it right. Its insane how Arslan avoids just a few mm from the opponent attacks and then within a second to do a special move to atack. You have to move really fast on the joystick.
I like the prayer part in the end
After Evo Las Vegas, Knee has lost twice to Arslan in Ft10 and Ft5
It was Knee steve only vs Arslan Kazumi only
Who is watching it again after Awais Honey beat KNEE in FV Cup 2019. Another monster from Pakistan 😎👍
You should do more matches against arsenalty and king jae
Facts
How come nobody can block or low parry Kazumi’s lows? I swear they never do it against Arslan and god know these guys have insane reactions
Its like Hworang, sometimes you get conditioned to never want to duck.
I'm not an expert at Tekken, but I think the reason Knee was doing those 3~4 roll move against Arslan, and the fact that it was working is because of how similar it looks to hell sweep. It looks like Arslan has the ability to react to hell sweep based on the animation and also block ff3, so that 3~4 is sort of like a truer mixup in a sense. The fact that it hit numerous times kinda shows that it sas working.
6:24 WHAT THE FUCK!?!
That sidestep and then immedialety electric. Sick
16:50 Is that MainMan himself in the background xD
Where tho
Now I think he was able to can open arslan's defense using Paul Phoenix
The 2 players who have given arslan trouble besides boa are shadow and jimmy but SPECIFICALLY bryan df1 chain spam and shadow's claudio doing excessive jabs. There must be something to this to open up arslan's style I think
remember when everyone thought Book was gonna be the new God after beating Knee
You're almost gonna hit 100k subs! Congrats TMM. Love from Pakistan ❤
Arslan Ash is very dangerous player i saw every match i can see that Asrlan Ash change fighting style on every round and he beat every one with Geese but for Knee he fight with his Primery player Kazumi. Unbelievable Arslan Ash i wish you good luck you nailed it man.
Fighting Kazumi must be like death by a thousand cuts. It looks frustrating to play against and tedious to open up with all those fast options.
Thx for this video love it... keep it up :)
That was some great ass tekken. Arslan you have my respect and knee you always be a tekken god
Mr.Naps won because Arslan was off the flight straight into the match .. He flew NY to West Coast and was late for the match ... plus their matches are always to the wire both are so good at adopting ...
Is he out of that?
Knee kaz is great but mr. loves kaz is amazing. He’s ready to take risk. He’s a character specialist he understand playing Kazuya take some risk. I watched love and he wave dash into while rising 2 a lot makes kazuya more deadly and it tracks side walking opponents very well. I started practicing this with my kazuya so I can have more options out of wave dash
Knee has a better Kaz than BoA. The difference is that BoA surprised Arslan by going on extreme offense. It generally doesn't work so a lot of people don't expect it at high level.
Before Evo Japan ...nobody knew who Arslan Ash was....now the entire tekken world knows his name. No longer Tekken is the domain of Japanese and Korean players.....
Respect for Arslan Ash...a true hero...
You know what, I can't help but feel sad for Knee.
Most people cheer *against* Knee... mostly because they know he's the god of Tekken, and so people who beat him are legendary.
Still, you can't deny this is one of the most iconic wins in recent Tekken history.
Boa can probably do a 16 frame hellsweep , his execution is better than knee , which allowed him to rush with kaz , when he plays it’s like jab into instant hell sweep
thanks for sharing .. love from pakistan
It's been first time to comment on your video just to insure you that both matches he lost because of travelling issues. At first in Japan Evo he lost because of 2 days of travelling due to visa issue. He had nominal sleep and very much heart broken. Therefore he lost against Bova louvb. Otherwise I m sure if Bova louvb comes to Pakistan and take apart in any tourneys, he might not be able to make top 50 TBH. I know in Pakistan we have talented Tekken killers. They will not give him a stand.
And in Evo USA his flight delayed and he already had 30 hours for travelling and no sleep and keep in mind that he still gave very much hard time to Mr.Nap.
I m sure he would have won both matches otherwise. 🤗🤗🤗
say what you want, but kazumi's d/f+1 is broken. whenever knee blocks it, he sidesteps, arshlan throws another one and forces knee to block it again. it has amazing tracking. and of course, makes kazumi move foward too.
it doesnt track to ssr but arslan used alot of b2 to keep knee in place
Tekken should be an Olympic game. I feel their anxiety into my bones
According to me, knee lost cauz of the restricted movements devs implemented in tekken 7. knee just couldn't even side stepped arslan's df1, couldn't even back dashed out of pressure. that was crazy. plus he didn't wanted to play aggressively so the only option that had was GUESS. and we know no one can guess right every time...
I was so hyped seeing Kazuya
React to Arslan's interview
every time i watch a tekken tournement i think why no body plays tekken in syria
it feel's like you are the only person who loves this game 😢😢😢😢😢
Arslan is the Tim Duncan of Tekken. Not that flashy in the mainstream but his fundamental are fucking sexy
I personally think knee respected Arslan way too much in the first two games with kazuya. Not a single ch df2 was made nor even a single hellsweep that landed. I actually think kazuya is the perfect character against Arslan's playstyle. No 50/50 mixup either. I think it's just safe to assume that Knee was hella nervous.
14:10 I disagree, I’d say Leo’s ws4,1+2 is the best 11f ws punish in the game.
I would say both. Leo's ws4, 1+2 walksplats only in a specific distance. Also +8 is on high lvl play maybe even better than a far knockdown
Their both good and both have their pros and cons.
Congratulations to him 👏👏👏👏
Boa Luvb: Not enough hellsweeps and wavedash into wr2
Im a huge Knee fan and it was so hard to admit and agree Arslan is a better player than Knee...but after watching the grand finals again i could definitly say that now he is a better player than him. Big respect to Arslan and huge love and support for Knee!
TMM did u meet with arslan or knee after the final? What did they have to say about the match?
He didnt meet them. He wanted to but finding people was very hard in EVO sadly :(
Fair enuf
i think knee wanted to launch her df1,2, but in the end ash never ended the string, and because of that knee never tried to do anything after blocking df1.
Theres the chance to knee improve yourself and your playstyle to another lvl. Thats what means have someone more strong then you
He should’ve picked heihachi atleast . Punch parry would’ve helped
I strongly agree. I believe that parrys are the key to beating Arslan.
Why not steve if u want punch perrt
@@ibrahimmusic5129 arslan beat knees steve on a ft 10 in japan. he knows how to play against steve. on the other hand knee beat arslan in 2 ft10 sets with his deviljin.
@@donvisione3634 kindly search arslan kazumi vs steve heera and see theatch
@@donvisione3634 undoubtedly he is in the top 5 if not the best player in the world
It's funny nobody ever knew Boa since he beaten Arslan who was a nobody at that time too.
he trying to do the Boa luvb tactic but he forgot you need a beyblade to do his vortex
I want Knee to play Bryan in tournament again sooo bad. It feels like sometimes he'll sooner play Chloe in tournament than Bryan lol.
I think Knee has given up on Bryan after he said Bryan doesn't have the tools to win in competition.
I don't think BoalubB can defeat Arslan again because Arslan probably lost to him because Arslan had 0 tournament experience and could not adapt quickly unlike how he did it today from Knee going crazy with DJ and getting a match to Arslan Realizing that and blocking 2 hellsweeps in a row and doing 3-0 on knee. So it's not like Arslan can not answer Aggressive play style. Every top 8 can answer Aggressive play style. And for Jimmy, He thinks just like Arslan, He feels just what Arslan feels. Making their Sets always coming to the Final Final Round and after that luck takes over their sets, where it preferred Arslan in EVO JAPAN and Jimmy in WSOE
Aptly put.
People saying Knee needed to play the 50/50 are silly. Knee choose Kazuya to launcher df+1,2 and to crush jabs with CD+3+4. In relation to Jimmy beating Arslan, let's not forget low soccer kick is a low that you can't see and is +4 after it hits. Arslan tried to duck it but Jimmy was throwing soo many mids out Arslan couldn't get the read. And when the low landed Arslan was frozen at +4 and was afraid to press buttons.
arsalan must have a higher level observation haki it seems
You try to beat the master of fundamentals (arslan) with a fundamentally based character (kazuya)? Not throwing shade, just thinking 🤔
What's up MainMan! I've been waiting for you to do a commentary on this match! Hope your trip to EVO was a memorable one!
He should have picked Bryan for the redemption arc boost