How I Lube Holy Panda Switches with Krytox 205g0
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- It doesn't sound clear in this video but pre-lubed and cleaned switches have awful spring noise.
0:16 Unboxing
0:44 Tools
1:24 Cleaning
2:03 Lube
4:30 Before/After Sound Comparison
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you should produce you own switch called holy cat XD
That name is cool. I wish I could! XD
wildcat where’s your paint brush from
Holy Neko
@@3ildcat Or maybe Wildly True
Another with unholy parrot
I was in your stream! I love how relaxing it is to watch
Hahaha Thank you again!
0:54 ah yes, the most important ingredient XD
XD
I don’t have cat but I have ducksss
Was considering lubing tactile switches with 205g0. Definitely going to do it now :). Maybe the legs for a few of them too
thanks for showing this video, I’m going to return my huntsman and build my own keyboard with halo true
I need to get some halo trues. I have two boards with halo clears because I got one k-type and a second from offerup.
@@abdomination did u end up doing so? because if u havent, then i dont recommend. the halo trues are scratchy and barely tactile. lubing doesnt rly help hahaha
@@greytogray haven't. I basically quit the hobby. no I just have a whole bunch of keyboards I don't know what to do with..
@@abdomination what kb you got? 👀
@@imryujins I got 2K types a bunch of 60% boards to varmillo full-sized to philco's a ducky Maya pro one too many Snow White one too many HyperX Leopold 80% this voice to text is terrible and I'm still kind of sleepy I got a list and pictures
Lubing is a tedious process but it's worth it.
Really worth your time
Brilliant, just what I need for first build about to start, thanks!
Instructions unclear, my cat from 0:54 thrown the lube from my desk.
Where do you get your cats? I have my holy pandas, my lube, and everything else, but I have no idea where to get the cat. I've been searching for days, but I can't find a single one. Help?
in description (neko atsume, mine from japan)
@@3ildcat right under my nose the entire time...
Building my first custom keyboard at christmas, going for a GK61 wooden body with holy pandas and coral sea keycaps. Gonna lube all the switches this way and clip, lube and bandaid mod the stabs. wish me luck hope i don’t die of boredom lmao
you could upload to yt to make things more interesting 🤩
great video but was it still somewhat tactile when you lubed the legs? I think you would love NovelKeys creams or Gateron Inks those switches are the smoothest switches out there
I can still feel the tactility but leg lubed one is definitely smoother than stock one. Tealios switches have been my favorite for over 2 years. Recently I built Niu mini with the cream switches but they are not smooth as much I expected compared to tealios. I haven’t tried Inks but I want to try if I have a chance.
@@3ildcat you will love inks if you qant smooth they are def one of the smoothest out but then again tealios are also cream switches srent k own for being smooth either but I love them I'm weird I dont mind a not so perfectly smooth switch I'm more sensitive to sound then anything else
@@reviewforthetube6485 Thanks for sharing ideas. :)
Honestly, Ink switches are in bad quality for the price. V1 has the popping out leaf issue and the deviation of smoothness is quite large. Of course much better than other linear switches including cherry blacks. haha
I heard the issues were resolved in V2. I am waiting for 180 marshmallows and 90 halos + pandas so.. I might not have a chance to buy them. :(
@@3ildcat I need to get some marshmallows I was going to do it but decided not to how are they for you?? But yeah the v2 inks are outstanding man and I always keep in mind there are such thing as bad batches I had a bad batch of mx blacks the retooled version it was so ailent which it ahouldnt of been and just wasnt right
@@reviewforthetube6485 Right. V2 are worth it.
For the marshmallows, I like linear switches and the sound of holy pandas. So I've tried the cream switches and their look is just boring. However the marshmallows look cute. haha
I also like they are not lubed in factory at all not like holy pandas. I saw Taeha's sample review and can't wait for it. :)
오래된 영상에 죄송합니다. 제가 처음으로 와일드캣님 영상보고 akko 제품을 윤활해볼려하는데 스위치, 스프링, 그리고 스페이스바? 전부다 205g0으로 윤활해도 전혀 문제가 없을까요?
Me pressing the left arrow key repeatedly during the into: Time to make my own mix
lol
Wow yours came in a box inside of a box? Mine were shipped with just bubble wrap wrapped around the massdrop box 🤔
User I got it via a freight forwarder in the US so ‘maybe’ the company repacked for resending. However, holy pandas were sent from China, so it took so long time.. When I order, I didn’t know that at all. From CN to US to KR lol 😱
안녕하세요 와캣님 ㅠㅡㅠ 혹시 슈퍼루브 오일+그리스 믹스로 윤활하면 차이가 많이 클까요 ?
윤활제들이 워낙 비싸서 쌈마이로 쓰고있는데... ㅋㅋㅋ 요샌 윤활제도 유행을 타고있는 것 같고해서...
공업용에 가까운 슈퍼루브랑 ,,, 크톡/트리보 같은 윤활이랑 어떤 차이가 있을까요 ?
윤활제가 기판이나 스위치에 악영향을 끼치지 않는다면 어떤것이든 괜찮다고 생각합니다만 저도 고수님들 쓰는거 그저 따라 쓰는 입장이라 제대로 답변을 드리기가 어렵습니다. ㅠㅠ 저렴한 윤활제의 경우, 무접점이나 게이트론 적축 고무댐퍼 등에 영향을 준다고도 들었습니다. 고무가 들어가지 않는다면 다른 윤활제도 괜찮겠지요. 나머지는 지속성이나 발림성, 부드러움성 등의 품질문제일텐데 약간의 차이가 있긴 하겠지만 짧은 기간에는 느끼기 힘들듯 합니다. 그래도 고수님들이 쓰신다면 이유가 있겠지요. 물론 좋은걸 쓰면 더 좋겠지라는 심리적인 측면도 무시못할 부분인 것 같습니다. ㅎㅎ
제가 느끼기엔 슈퍼루브 오일만 썼을땐 조금 뽀득임도 느껴지고 묽어서 그런지 지속성이 조금 짧고 잡소음 제거력도 낮더군요. 슈퍼루브 오일과 구리스 7대3 혼합도 써봤는데 뽀득임은 그대로지만 잡소음은 많이 감소한편이었구요. 크라이톡스 오일은 105기준으로 적은 뽀득임에 잡소음 제거력도 좋은 편이었습니다. 205g0로도 해보았는데 구리스형이라 그런지 잡소리는 거의 제거가 되었지만 약간 먹먹함이 있습니다. 스위치는 모두 게이트론 RGB 흑축으로 테스트 해보았습니다. 저는 스위치에 따라 105와 205g0를 선호합니다. 슈퍼루브는 확실히 싼 느낌이 있습니다...
Omg, thinking about having to clean them first.... screw that. I actually think that stopped doing that after the retooling...
haha I didn't clean for my 87 holy pandas
Do you think that super lube 21030 would be an okay lube for the holy pandas? I have a two tubes of that stuff, so I need to find a use for it.
I am here because I probobly destroyed my space bar switch.
I have Corsair K95 equipped with a Cherry MX Silver. This keyboard after almost 4 years of using has strong spring ping. Sometimes it makes me angry, so I decided to lube few switches with random grease which I found in local home depot. WASD, both shifts, left ctrl, both alt and enter now works but they are mushy like old membrane keyboard. Space bar works but many times not bouncing back up. Just pressed stays there.
Now my question is : Do I have to disassembly my keyboard and clean all switches for re-lubed them by proper Krytox? Or just cleaning up will be enough?
Glad I could entertain you while you lube those pandas haha
Jeremy Yip hahaha thank you again 😊
I read ppl say go with 3203 for tactile
hey :3ildcat! Awesome video! I plan on making my first mechanical keyboard soon and you really helped me! Thanks! Also, what monitor do you use? Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Samsung Cj791
Krytox GPL 205 G 0 is available again on Amazon
www.amazon.com/dp/B08MCK6QL3?ref=myi_title_dp
Is 205 too thick for tactile switches like this? Wouldn’t you lose that feeling with such a thick lube?
As I am a linear switch lover, I don't like that much strong tactility of HPs so no problem at all for me
Everything is up to our own preference
wow I actually liked the sound of this, might lube the legs too now
I want the tactility and I should skip the whole lubing the legs? just put the switch back together after lubing the springs? Great vid btw
Yes right!
Just skip the legs then you will have strong tactility and smoothness.
No, you should still lube the stem faces and rails. Only skip the (curved) legs, as they produce the tactility. If you dont lube the stem faces, the switch will still be scratchy and you probably wont gain all that much from the whole process...
Follow the process until 3:45 in the video :)
personally can’t tell the difference in sound here. when i lube tactile switches in all these areas, the “smooth” feels more like mushy to me - and no i didn’t use too much lube. i like to lube the rails and bottom housing only. way less is more for me with tactile
What are the brush specifications you use? I find it very suitable for the housing of the switch
For other prelubed linear switches, do you clean it off first or just lube over it ?
1:40 I would get anxiety of dropping one of the tiny parts down the drain
just close the drain and then your safe
Hilarious. Glad the new batch from Drop comes unlubed.
Yeah! :3
just ordered 110 Halo Trues and 100 Tok Trash pandas......so thats 100 holy pandas and 100 unholy pandas to build and lube.....(i've never done this before) then 10 more when NK restocks YOK pandas....luckily, selling my unused Holy pandas (which ill have like 45 of) and lubed Unoly pandas (even though they're not worth nearly as much as a Holy Panda) i pretty much make all the money i spent back....and this video was SUPER helpful.
Wildcat! May I know where did you get that wallpaper?!
EDIT: Found it in your description. Oops! Thanks!
Awesome video! I really like your channel :) I will be lubing for the first time, what size brush do you use and what lube would you recommend for some Zealios v2 62g? Thanks!
Thanks!
I prefer siae 1 or 2
Choosing lube is totally up to your preference. You should choose for your fingers, not mine :)
@@3ildcat I know, it's just I don't know how either feels and don't want to purchase both at this time due to funds.
I’m waiting for the new batch from drop and I know they don’t come lubed, is there another choice of lube I could use? Awesome vid btw!
krytox 10x+20x mix, trybosis 3024 and so on
I don't know well..
Thank you!
any low viscosity silicone greese will done.. you wont feel any different between expensive lube or cheap lube.
You lubed the reason why people buy holy panda this is Hersey
Spray Lube는 괜히 위험할 것 같아서 와일드캣님이 하신데로 하려고 해요 ㅎㅎㅎ 근데 Krytox 205g0를 사용하신 이유가 있나요?? Krytox 205g0는 Linear switches에 좋다고 하고 Holy Pandas 같은 Tactile Switches에는 Tribosys 3203을 추천한다고 하는데, 어떤걸 사용하는게 더 좋을지, 그리고 Krytox 205g0를 사용하신 이유가 궁금해요!
103이나 207이나 모두 취향문제라서 저는 딱히 아무것도 추천을 안합니다.
그냥 제가 해보고 괜찮으면 쓰고 또 조금씩 바꿔보고, 그런데 대부분 다 만족스럽습니다. 뭘 바르던 순정보다는 훨씬 나으니까요. ㅎㅎ
트리보시스는 아직 한번도 사용안해봤어요. 굳이 이미 구매한 크톡들이 많은데 살 이유가 없다고 봐서요.
@@3ildcat 아하 감사합니다 :) 그럼 제가한번 사용해볼게요 ㅎㅎㅎ
Thank you for that wallpaper
What is it ?
Is it just impossible to source Krytox 205g0 at the moment due to the pandemic? I've looked everywhere to buy it from anyone, and the best I can find is $20 .5oz tube from Amazon that's actually 205g2 not 205g0. I'm so confused, is always like this?
Recently I don't need to buy any lube so have no idea
Your video is educational and entertaining/funny at the same time... 😄
can i chuck the whole bottom housing of a switch with the leaf still in the a sonic cleaner? then just it off quickly with a hair dryer or will with it break the switch?
I just took apart my Trash Pandas. What is the best way to clean the housing w/o taking out the leaf? I don't have a ultra sonic cleaner. Do I really need to? I have 3203 and the halo stems (which aren't pre lubed). Can I just take a q tip with some rubbing alcohol and rub around the inside of the housing real quick?
I recommend that you don't clean the whole bottom housing without taking the leaf. I've seen some people who did clean them using a ultra sonic cleaner, and their some contact of switches died after few days or weeks. I guess you already know that so you asked like that.
I didn't clean the any housing and stem. Just relubed with krytox205. As you watched, I lubed even the legs so I didn't need to clean.
If you don't want to ruin the tactility, I heard that rubbing the legs only with cotton swab or something is enough. I think contact(leaf) shouldn't be affected any other cleaning method.
Anyway, the pre-lube thing is really bad for people like us. :(
@@3ildcat Yep everything turned out great! Since the Halo Stems weren't pre lubed that was good. I just went over the YOK Trash Panda housing with the 3202 and it worked out. I think it was pre lubed but it was so light and inconsistent it iddn't really matter and i Think i brushed it off anyways when I applied my 3202. Everything is perfect!
@@SANFRAN Good to hear that! XD
U should make a vid showing whitch tools are good for lubing your switches
where would you recomend to buy Krytox 205g0, i want to build my first custom keyboard and lube it, but i cant really find it anywhere
google 'Krytox 205g0 keyboard' then you can see many stores. I know some are out of stock but not every place
:3ildcat ok thank you
@@3ildcat i know i have spammed you with questions lol, but i really liked the sound of gateron reds, especially when they are lubed, but the only ones that i could find had a black backing so rgb couldn't go through it, therefore my keyboard would have to not have rgb. do you know of any gateron red switches that do have a space for the rgb to come through? i have found this one: www.aliexpress.com/item/32980039972.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.40193c00CtNwi8&mp=1, but i don't know if the rgb would go through. do you know of any gateron reds that would allow rgb to go through the switch and sound/be the same?
also, these were the original ones with black backings that im not sure if the rgb will go through www.banggood.com/70PCS-Pack-3Pin-Gateron-Linear-Red-Switch-Keyboard-Switch-for-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-reviews-p1426553.html
@@liamgovig2853 the aliexpress ones are okay with rgb shine through but the banggood ones are not.
Ik this is old but do you recommend putting switch films on the holy pandas? I like that satisfying kinda muted sound. I know the lubed pandas already kind of sound like that so do you think it’s overkill?
for old holy pandas, no
for new holy pandas, okay, it's your call
Where did you get the neko atsume figures, they're so smol and cute
Yeah they are sooo cute
Hi, just asking for ur method for adding more lube on top instead of cleaning, does that also work for linears thanks.
Where did u buy the lube and can you get films for these. If u could link the websites would be appreciated. Also what hot swappable pcb would you recommend for this.
google 'txkeyboard' :)
I can't recommend cuz it should be your preference
whats that monitor stand youre using? looking awesome!
ruclips.net/video/dM5cvHklQK0/видео.html
You can find it in the description of this link. It's from Amazon. Thanks. :)
wildcat thanks bro, I really need this lol.
@@shilo.5087 My pleasure. XD
@@3ildcat Just purchased one for myself! thank you!
is this a joke or can i really clean them with an ultrasonic cleaner?
I'm not quiet sure if the liquid is just water or if it will damage my sliders
People keep telling me TriboSys 3203 is the way to go on tactiles. I've seen others lubing with 3204 (Which I'm going for) and
even 205g0 as shown here. Is there really that much difference, if lube is applied with care and caution - in thin layers?
I can't really see why there should be a big difference. Prove me wrong, I'm new to all of this.
If it's a thick lube, then lube more gently. If it's thin, do so in slightly heavier layers.
Or? :)
I think it's a small difference. If you don't care or are not so sensitive, they all will be okay.
My 205g2, 205g0, 105+205 mix lubed switches are all good enough for me. lol
what is the link to the lube because i cant find it anywhere
Is it fine to use Tribosys 3204 Switch Lubricant instead of Krytox ? Don't lube the legs also yea
What is that amazing wallpaper
is there any Keytox 205g0 in Amazon. If there is please can someone put link???
이 영상에선 205g0 만으로 윤활을 하신거네요? 최근엔 105+205g2로 하시던데요 혹시 스위치마다 다른 조합을 하시는건가요? 아니면 요새는 그냥 105+205g2로 하시는편이세요?
105가 남아돌아서 최근에는 믹스로 계속 윤활중입니다
@@3ildcat 네 감사합니다 저도 이번엔 105+205g2 1:1로 하고있어요.. 밤새야할거같아요 ㅋㅋ
@@Null_pointer_ 화이팅입니다 ㅋㅋ
What's the benefit of lubing the entire spring as opposed to the ends? I saw a Taeha Types vid where he only lubed the ends
I just do just like plastic bag lubing.
Hold on. Isn’t Krytox 205g0 for linear?
(Recommended)
The type of lube and where you use it on the switch boils down to personal preference. I am using Zealio V2 62g on my main keyboard and lubed everything, including the legs, with Krytox 205 G0 because I felt the switches were too tactile otherwise.
Oh ok
imagine choosing holy panda for smoothness...
Do you think these switches are worth it? I'm using gaterons now, and I'm wondering how noticeable "fancier" switches are
For me, yes
for you, I don't know. really up to the preference
Do you not live the top housing?
you crazy SOB, you did it!
what is the keycaps set at 0:11
Does all the lube and glorious lube need water? First time to lube 😅😅
Where can I find the container lube
I have a question, do you recommend to lube box jade?
I have krytox 205 g0, can I use it for this box jade?
Sorry I haven't lubed box switches.
and it's all up to you.
does lubing the legs of tactile switches turned it closer into a linear feel?
yes. The thicker the lube the more you lose tactility. It's best to use a thinner lube like 3203 or 3204 and not to lube the legs at all. If you're more experience with lubing you can use thicker lubes like krytox 205g0
As Eliar said
Do you prefer 205g0 or 3204 for tactiles? Which produces a deeper sound on a brass plate?
I haven't tried 3204
I am satisfied with krytox so I have no plan to try it
Nice video how always 😎🤙
How much tactility do you think it will lose by lubing the leg thinly? Also im still debating myself to only buy 205g0 for stabs and zealios v2, or get some 3204 too. But still cant wrap my mind around buying the 205g0 for only lubing like 3 stabs lol.. the consensus i got is that to buy 205g0 for everything
Eosmann If you like the heavy tactility, you shouldn’t do that. It reduced a lot. I can’t express how much it is exactly but it still has way more tactility than average brown switches. lol
Yeah it would not be that easy to decide.. if you are not so sensitive, only 205g0 would be fine. Many say that 3024 is also good but I haven’t bought it yet and will not for now.
@@3ildcat tbh with u i still dont know whether i like heavy tactility or not lol. I come from box red and never ever tried other switches before lol. Some people said its okay to lube it, it wont lose that much tactility, some people said dont lol. Judging by how it felt by clicking the switch alone (the keycaps still on the way), the resistance i felt when it bottoms out is strong, like its punching me back. is that what it means by heavy tactility? if so, i think i might prefer it to be smoother and less tactile
@@psputranoveka Oh.. only box reds..... they are really light. As far as I know, zealios have less tactility compared to the holy pandas. If I were you, of course I would lube the legs as well. Lol
Experiencing is way better than watching others reviews or videos because it's totally up to your preference.
That's why many keyboard enthusiasts keep spending lots of money for finding their tastes. haha
@@3ildcat just tried the switch unlubed and i must say while i like it, i think the feedback to the finger is too much. I might lube the leg and the spring a little to make it smoother i think. Thank you for the response ♥️
What size brush are you using? I'm having a hard time figuring out which size to buy.
On the brush '1'
What is the switch holder
Where do u but the lube from?
Do you still get a decent tactility without cleaning them?
How do I clean without an ultrasonic cleaner? Any tips?
Can I use Krytox 205 instead of parmatex in stab and wire??
Isn’t 205g0 a thick lube which you wouldn’t want to use on tactile switches?
up to personal preference
No it’s a mix technically. Lube and grease
Where should I buy Krytox 205g0?
what keycaps did you use in the beginning?
Would lubing this with 3203 feel more or less smooth and tactile?
would be similar.
do you think I should clean the new, unlubed holy pandas when they ship from drop in june?
It's up to you.
Many people clean them but I don't care.
Which is the best lube for linear Kailh Box Red switches?
wild cat: clean clean clean.
also him: i lube them without cleaning.
me: thank the gods
Is there a link for where to buy these items?
Would this process work with all tactile switches?
what kind of jar do you use to contain the lube?
I just want to say I love all your videos. And based on your comment replies, you seem like a really cool and helpful dude :)
do you usually not lube the top housing?
Why 205G vs other lubes like Tribosys ?
How do these feel and sound unlubed? Debating if i should lube the new drop thats unlubed. I only ask because i attempted to lube tealios with 205g00 and i guess i must’ve over lubed some because i feel like some of them are somewhat inconsistent :( don’t want to ruin the hps
I don't use unlubed switches because they have a lot of friction that I don't like. Even though some switches are inconsistent, I still prefer lubed ones.
As you have experienced the lubed switches, you can test one and follow your preference. :)
hmmm okay, thanks for your thoughts! and keep up the great work. the production quality on your videos are top notch!
@@fishholic7596 Thank you! :D
why buy tactile switches if you like smoothness?
This was posted on my Bday!!
Hahaha happy birthday to you for that day!
so the tophousing doesnt get lubed?
Wow yummy that krytrons stuff taste good
How is the sound when lubing the springs with 105 oil compared to using 205g0?
105 = oil = similar to natural switch sound
205 = grease = a bit lower sound than oil
in my opinion
호오오오오오오ㅗ오옹올리 판다 🐼 저도 드롭에서 70개 구매해서 닌자87에 끼울려고요 ㅎㅎ 기대되네여
I've tired to lube my own switch but I keep having a problem after typing on it or playing games after a couple day's it sounds un lubed and feels ruff again.
Probably applied too little or used the wrong lube but this is fine because less is more just go in a second time and make sure to add the just a little bit more
혹시 스위치 9개끼우신 틀어디서 구매하셨는지알 수 있을까요?
Do you lube the top casing for other switches? (Such as Gateron reds)
yes
you can check it in my recent lubing videos
I recently lubed my Holy Pandas like you did. Except I had bought some R1 Invyr Panda from 27 at the time and Halo switches from the first GB of K-Type keyboard. Both were sitting around (I actually didn't like either of them very much) so I decided I would make Holy Pandas after all the hype. I think vintage Cherry Black is still better than Invyr Panda, but they just looked really cool with white/black theme. And I liked how the Halo switches felt a bit, but it was too rattly and loud. It didn't sound good at all. Combining to make Holy Panda is still kind of loud for me actually. Now I wonder what I can do with the leftover Panda stems... They are made of POM, so I think they can be good in some different switch housings in the future. Maybe I can try swap with Gateron Black Inks, but I feel difference won't be very big.
But yeah, I don't clean existing lube from the Invyr Panda housings or the Halo sliders because I also prefer smoothness. I just re-lube on top of existing lube and it's fine after it mixes together/blends in. No idea if mixing the lube will cause some chemical reaction tho... haha. But the tactile bump of Holy Panda is so strong, the lube only makes it smoother, so switch is still plenty tactile enough IMO. Somehow it still it feels like the switch is too loud I'm not sure I will keep using it. I might just give it to a friend who needs a new keyboard after some time since I have way too many. I have since grown to like silent switches more like lubed Zilent V2 and Sakurios/Roselios. I think they just sound nicer because of the quieter nature of the switch and a "deeper" thock sound for bottom out. Still better than Gateron Silent Inks IMO.
Everyone complains about Zeal prices, but the mechanical keyboard hobby was never cheap to begin with. And the price is not so expensive I can't afford them, I think it is still reasonable considering how much better they are even stock vs the typical Cherry switch. With lube and switch film, Zeal switches are probably the best I have tried so far. And I have tried so many in the past few years. The only switches I like better than Zeal are lubed silent Topre, but I don't think the comparison is fair. Topre is still king with their signature "thock" sound.
Sorry for the long comment ^^;
I thought you will also blow dry after cleaning with sonic toothbrush