Judge needs to be thrown off this case! This will not be a fair trial and if the jury finds a guilty verdict, it will be thrown out on appeal. Do I think he’s guilty? Probably.
Things don’t get “thrown out” on appeal. The appellate court would see their complaint, review it, and then decide if they’re even going to hear their argument. Which they won’t, because there is no evidence…..
She needs to be removed because the Defense failed to provide evidence in order to meet a required threshold set out in Law...? Is that what you're saying?
Richard Allen is grasping at straws... There's absolutely nothing he can say to change the physical evidence in the case which is him admitting to a park ranger that he was on the trail and that he crossed the bridge and that he was wearing the same clothing as bridge guy. Richard Allen can't change the fact that he confessed 63x over a jail phone that was being recorded. Richard Allen can't explain away a bullet being found at the crime scene that matched the same caliber and brand as bullets found at his house, and forensic testing determined that the bullet found at the crime scene had been ejected but not fired from Richard Allen's Sig Sauer automatic pistol. The defense know they have no defense.... That's why they're trying to pin it on a third party. Not even specific third party individuals, they are just trying to say that overall pagans did this crime, or odinists or however they want to describe the "sacrifice"
@@brandoncollins1050 no your wrong. NO geofencing is allowed. And what u mean "confuse the jury". This is a redo trail thanks to this judge. Everyone wants justice for the girls its not by dragging thr families to two trails.
@@Sinner-fi4bw it’s only a “practice” trial in the event there is an appeal granted. As of now, there is no reason to grant an appeal. Re-read the Motion in Limine and you will see that the State was not requesting that ALL geofence data be excluded, only irrelevant.
If anything, the investigation and prosecution of some of these high profile cases should worry all of us! This is normally done behind close doors. How many Americans are getting their rights trampled on by rogue judges, prosecutors and law enforcement? If anything, there has to be a reform were corrupt and rogue state actors face consequences. Everyone, regardless of personal feelings on guilt, should have a fair trial. Not this!!!
Where were the other suspects? Not even in the area on the day. With confirmed alibis and digital evidence, cctv to prove it. If you can provide evidence you can even say Mothman did it.... but you need to provide EVIDENCE. Or should we just ignore the Law because you really wanna just believe in fairy stories.
@@TheBriar_123but the “evidence” you speak of was refuted by further investigation. So, it’s not based on evidence anymore and an appellate court would look at the same thing and agree with Gull. They wouldn’t grant the appeal. Not for this anyway.
Wow how can she prohibit that??? Trying to keep him from even having a defense. The Odin stuff is actually very relevant if you look into the research!
@@gibbo822 What a good puppet! Repeat what your owners demand of you. Don’t actually look into anything, just claim what they want you to claim. Good little puppet.
@@RobertA-11-11 boy I'm the boss here and I'm schooling you statements that can't be corroborated are hearsay in the eyes of the law that's not even just in the US
I’ve scored high on multiple super recognizer tests including blurry CCTV images and Ron Logan matches BG’s build very well. RA’s limbs are NOT the right proportions to be BG. In fact, locals recognized Ron Logan and called him into the tip line when the video was released. No one called in the local CVS guy. By the way Ron Logan like anyone over the age of 70 would have lost a couple of inches due to natural shrinkage off his recorded DL height.
Videographers used the fbi app for determining height based on known dimensions of the railroad ties, and it calculated BG's height to be 6ft, with a plus or minus 2 inch margin of error.
I know Richard confessed to his wife and pastor over 60x on a jail phone that was being recorded, that's what I know! And I already know the comeback you have ready, your going to try and parrot what you've heard other people say... "But he was playing with and eating his own poop when he made those confessions". NOPE, Richard told his wife multiple times before he ever tried the crazy roll!
I know Richard confessed over 63x to his wife and pastor on the jail phone that was being recorded, that's what I know! I know they found a bullet at the crime scene matching ammunition he had at his house and forensics determined bullet had been ejected from Richards sig saur pistol. And I already know the comeback you have ready, your going to try and parrot what you've heard other people saying..."but Richard was playing with and eating his own poop when he made those confessions" NOPE, Richard told his wife several times before he ever tried the crazy roll! If you've followed the case, you've seen like Ive seen, Richards defense has went from: "wasn't me" "Well, I was there and I was wearing those clothes... But it wasn't me" "I'm insane" "It was pegan odinists" Richard and his defense team are trying EVERYTHING
I know Richard Allen confessed 63x to his wife and pastor over a jail phone that's automatically set to record, that's what I know! I also know investigators found a bullet matching ammunition from Richard's house and forensics determined Richard sig Sauer pistol had ejected that bullet found at the crime scene.
@ 4:40 Same hat? From what i thought from a news interview video, Ron seemed like he knew something . You can see it in his body lauguage and the way he was jumping around on the questions.
Read the ruling. They aren't being stopped whatever Defense they like, But it can't just be baseless fingerpointing. If they can provide evidence that the alternative suspects actually have a link to the crime scene then they can go with a Third Party Defense. Without evidence they need to go with a different Defense. Simple as that.
Not being able to mention Odinism and Rituals is so unfair. Just like when the Menendez brothers couldn’t mention the SA they faced. How are you supposed to get a fair trial if you can’t use all the evidence and theories?
Especially the abundance of ciphers coming from DC and the POI in question. 👮♂️🤏🟦 "Holding a blue square" DCs visual cipher. (Grid Spiral array with central space)
I thought a defendant can put on any defense or theory a defendant chooses and its up to the jury to listen to and see the evidence then come to a verdict.
I think she'd want to cooperate as much as possible, this case has a lot of holes and if he is convicted, it could be overturned on technicalities. just saying
All I have to say is that's Indiana for you. A friend of mine was charged of a crime she didn't do and her only defense which proves her innocence was not allowed in, she was convicted and sent to prison. So many corrupt courts and court players in Indiana.😡
So those 3 detectives click and whoever else it was as just no good and then don't know what they're talking about? I dont think this is fair! There will be many many appeals..lets just sit back at watch...hell get A appeal that he will win just because stupid frances C Gull denying EVERY MOTION from defense. Disgusted in ohio!!!
If the judge would have not allowed evidence that BLM committed the crime.... Would that mean that her husband is probably black? She's probably got some mixed kids too, right?! Smh
@nemonucliosis The Defense should be able to put on their defense, whatever it may be, period. This guys' constitutional rights are being trampled. He has a right to an unbiased judge. Gull ain't it.
@@tonilharmon so it would be totally cool if defense said aliens from mars committed the murders then right? Police dismissed the odinist theory years ago. Judge asked defense to present evidence of odinist and they came up with sticks. So defense is literally putting the entire case on sticks. 🤣🤣🤣
@nemonucliosis The Defense is entitled to say whatever it wants to defend their client. The judge doesn't get to tell them what the defense should be. It doesn't matter whether or not YOU believe it. What matters is what the jury believes. It's the constitutional right of the defendant to have the defense of his or her choosing.
1:03 It’s not just the 3rd party suspects! The Motion in Limine included GEOFENCING DATA which is also NOT ALLOWED! Judge Gull needs to go. She’s done a good job of throwing herself under the bus so far.
THIS JUDGE IS BIASED AND NEEDS REMOVED FROM THIS CASE, EVERYONE DESERVES A FAIR TRIAL! THIS STUPID JUDGE IS GONNA THINGS JUST MORE DRAWN OUT FOR EVEN MORE YEARS CAUSE SHE REALLY NEEDS REMOVED SHE'S GOT IT OUT 4 Allen, SMDH
I think he's the one who led them to his property, but is probably not the killer. BH was staying with him, and Abby was dating BH's son. Most likely scenario to me is that BH son was supposed to meet the girls but they sent Logan to fetch them and guide them to their Valisblot party.
@@mamabear5488 Under mental torture given by the odinist prison guards that is. The prison guards had odinist symbols on their clothing and they admitted it.
Since when can defendants only use judge approved defenses? If their legit defense is a cult then that should be put before the jury!!! Whole case is looking gross, unfair, and Allen isn't looking or sounding like the sociopath who butchered those little girls.
I think it’s interesting that people are upset with the judge not letting the Odinism theory I. The court room, yet we are not seeing what the judge sees. Most likely the judge has good reason to not allow that theory in the court room.
I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but this case just stinks more and more. And the worst part is I’m pretty convinced that if he’s convicted, he’s gonna get it overturned on appeal and that doesn’t bring justice for anyone.
"All cut up" ? Who was "all cut up"? No information has been released about the condition of the bodies. Its posts like yours that make NPC armchair lawyers delusional about reality.
The only way this case is ever going to trial is they get a new judge plain and simple the Supreme Court needs to jump in and remove this so call judge and appoint a new judge so case can go to trial and give these girls family peace once and for all
This judge is BAD, and needs to be removed from the case, as does the prosecutor. I've never seen anything like this in my life. The only good thing is this will be a good reason to throw out the verdict on appeal, if he's convicted. So, in other words, the judge is banning any mentions of the TRUTH, so as not to confuse the jury. They can decide the case based on Judge Gull's "truth"! How can they get away with such blatant bias and misconduct??!! Vinnie, what can we do to bring attention to this GROSS injustice?! I don't know if he did it or not, but I know that the jury is entitled to know all the facts of this boggled investigation.....Allen deserves to be able to defend himself and he is being robbed of that chance by Gull. I thought this stuff only happened in movies. Wow!
Defense attorneys are very good at bringing up red herrings to confuse juries. I don’t know if this ruling is correct, but it is common for judges to not allow bad faith arguments made by defense counsels.
But it’s not a bad faith argument. When law-enforcement said they had to be more than one person based on the evidence at the crime scene, and they have a number of people that they have not conclusively ruled out, the defence has a pretty strong argument for being able to put forward an alternate suspect. If those suspects were legitimately ruled out, let the investigators get on the stand and explain why they were ruled out
I’m not saying guilt or innocence, but this judge has been very questionable from day one, won’t this just end up in appeal after appeal if you can’t use certain defences
Ready for something that will blow your mind? There were two sketches of suspects, and they look totally different, which is puzzling. Remember how we were all like, “What the heck? Two sketches?” We’ve never seen that in a case before. One sketch, showing a younger man, came from a witness who saw him at the park that day. This means there’s another unknown person who was there as well and is still out there.
She will mess up this whole case the guy will be able to appeal...shes not right in the head ...she is not allowing a fair trial ...and i believe hes guilty but he deserves a fair trial
Ron Logan wore a tan Fanny pack or “hunters kit” everyday where he would keep his gun and knives. This was proven by his ex girlfriend whom he had hit over the head with a ratchet. Ron Logan was a violent man and anyone that says he was too old blah blah blah I think it was Ron Logan and a handful of others that committed the crime. RL lived right by the monon bridge his whole life and could easily navigate that bridge from his experience. I’m not sure if that video of bridge guy is real or not but if it is Ron Logan was wearing the same exact outfit the next day and you can clearly see the tan Fanny pack on bridge guys right side where he wears it!!! He also has his pants baggy at the bottom as well! He could have easily threatened them to his property which was where they ended up being found and that would make sense as to why nobody heard or saw anything. I believe he threatened them down the side of the hill where the others were waiting to help snatch them up and take them quickly to his property. Ron Logan made up a false alibi before the girls were even reported missing 🤔 imo he definitely had knowledge about the crime and could have easily been hiding near by on his property in wait for the girls to walk on the bridge! I believe the arrest of Richard Allen was for publicity for the sheriff election for Tony Liggett, had they pinned it on Ron Logan he was already dead and they wanted to act as if they were getting justice for Abby & Libby’s unalivings. I feel other high ranking individuals also played a part in the sacrifice and figured Richard Allen would be the perfect guy to bully and set up. RA was never not once tipped into the tip line but other key ppl were like Ron Logan, Brad Holder, even good ol boy Tony Ligget. If they had enough evidence and a solid case against RA then why did they have to lose all the key interviews, why do they have to ban the defense strategy, why was boss man Nick withholding discovery? Why do two LE lie under oath and about the Purdue professor. So much shady things going on for the state when they supposedly have a “solid” case. I guess it’s easy for the state to go with their narrative (when the timeline makes no sense at all) when they totally ban RA from even having a defense smh!
@@babiee1 Ron Logan's ex girlfriend from 50 years prior?? Oh yes how legit 🤦 " I knew it was his voice" you recogniseed a voice that had aged 50+ years 🤣🤣🤣
4:46 we don’t know for sure the bridge guy is the killer . The judge on this case is an embarrassment to judges everywhere ! She should be ashamed of herself for SO many reasons !! 🕊🤷♀️🕊
Many months ago I said the judge herself was an Odinite, half joking, but as time passed I saw it as more and more likely. This newest outrageous ruling pretty much seals the deal for me. She is either involved in the cult herself or have people close to her who are involved. In fact, I can envision her at some sort of Odinite masked ball, the type where attendees drop their clothes at the front door. I mean, look at her. It's probably the only way she gets any male attention.
So it would be totally cool if defense said aliens fron Mars committed the murders and they will being Alien experts to testify about how aliens would murder humans right?
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Well, you know I’m not gonna sit there quietly, and not give my opinion!
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Well there is an instant appeal before opening statements.
blackmailed. too many coincidences
It seems like taking states evidence that's favorable to the defense and ruling it inadmissible would be some kind of a violation.
He isn’t getting a fair trial and this should concern everyone. WOW!
Something stinks here in this case
@@frankied210r It's the conspiracy theorists.
The fact that the entire Indiana justice system is doing absolutely nothing about this judge is terrifying to me.
This should frighten every American.
She’s an absolute crank this judge. How can this be fair??
Reads the same books as Aunty Bev.... make it up as you go along type of thing....
@@TwilightNurse7
Love Auntie Deb!!! And, you’re 1000% correctimundo!!!
It's not.
Because the law says you must present admissibility evidence to point the finger at someone else.
@@brandoncollins1050 Why then is geofencing being thrown out? If that is "confusing" to jurors they aren't bright enough to serve on a jury.
Judge needs to be thrown off this case! This will not be a fair trial and if the jury finds a guilty verdict, it will be thrown out on appeal. Do I think he’s guilty? Probably.
Defense failed to provide the evidence. She's following the law.
Things don’t get “thrown out” on appeal. The appellate court would see their complaint, review it, and then decide if they’re even going to hear their argument. Which they won’t, because there is no evidence…..
I think he is guilty but she should not be the judge of this trail
This judge needs to recuse herself.
Judge needs to be REMOVED from the case!
100% Agree. I hope they're escalating to get her removed.
😢😂😢😂
She needs to be removed because the Defense failed to provide evidence in order to meet a required threshold set out in Law...? Is that what you're saying?
@@socaldebon what grounds?? Following the law? Lol
@@nevadatan7323 monster isn't she this judge
Makes you wonder if the judge is an Odinist or related to one. And I am not a conspiracy theorist to begin with.
Or order of the Eastern Star…
Exactly 💯
They don’t prey on their own. Those girls made up 2% of children globally
When you look at what's happening here in Indiana and in Fulton county and in Dolton you have to wonder where is the real law in all this.
How can the state dictate what a persons defense is… the state needs to do their job, show proof beyond a reasonable doubt wtf
Your right , but they can’t do a 3rd party defense without evidence. What is RA defense
Cult and ritual killings? Jesus Christ you brainwashed clowns want to get away with anything huh?
Richard Allen is grasping at straws... There's absolutely nothing he can say to change the physical evidence in the case which is him admitting to a park ranger that he was on the trail and that he crossed the bridge and that he was wearing the same clothing as bridge guy.
Richard Allen can't change the fact that he confessed 63x over a jail phone that was being recorded.
Richard Allen can't explain away a bullet being found at the crime scene that matched the same caliber and brand as bullets found at his house, and forensic testing determined that the bullet found at the crime scene had been ejected but not fired from Richard Allen's Sig Sauer automatic pistol.
The defense know they have no defense.... That's why they're trying to pin it on a third party. Not even specific third party individuals, they are just trying to say that overall pagans did this crime, or odinists or however they want to describe the "sacrifice"
@@billyrapp7884 Where is ANY evidence the victims were alive and on the bridge on the 13th? Pretty much hearsay.
@@billyrapp7884 Physical evidence ? His DNA wasn't even found at the crime scene according to his old attorney, dummy.
WTF is Mr Gull an Odinist?
yes.
This is messed up
No geo fencing? Why? Geo fencing is in every modern trail. Its ubbias.
No IRRELEVANT geofencing or geofencing that might confuse the jury. They aren’t saying that they don’t want any and all geofence data excluded.
@@brandoncollins1050 no your wrong. NO geofencing is allowed. And what u mean "confuse the jury". This is a redo trail thanks to this judge. Everyone wants justice for the girls its not by dragging thr families to two trails.
@@Sinner-fi4bw it’s only a “practice” trial in the event there is an appeal granted. As of now, there is no reason to grant an appeal. Re-read the Motion in Limine and you will see that the State was not requesting that ALL geofence data be excluded, only irrelevant.
@@brandoncollins1050 appeal will deff get granted. She cut their whole defence.
@@Sinner-fi4bw she cut THAT defense, which the Appellate court will also do if they don’t come up with some evidence supporting it.
If anything, the investigation and prosecution of some of these high profile cases should worry all of us! This is normally done behind close doors. How many Americans are getting their rights trampled on by rogue judges, prosecutors and law enforcement? If anything, there has to be a reform were corrupt and rogue state actors face consequences. Everyone, regardless of personal feelings on guilt, should have a fair trial. Not this!!!
Look at the facts of the case. Bro's guilty.
@@nevadatan7323he’s actually innocent until a trial takes place, also you don’t know all the evidence
@@mstea2234 like Trump
This judge is completely biased. We need to have fair trials. This is not fair at all.
But she's sticking too the law your going off rumours and hearsay
@@gibbo822 You should go back to school before ever typing on the internet again.
That whole narrative is absolute nonsense. "Odinism" isn't real. Those who believe in Odin are called Pagans.
@@jonstewart6860where was Rick? Seriously I'm asking how Rick wasn't involved.
Where were the other suspects? Not even in the area on the day. With confirmed alibis and digital evidence, cctv to prove it.
If you can provide evidence you can even say Mothman did it.... but you need to provide EVIDENCE.
Or should we just ignore the Law because you really wanna just believe in fairy stories.
This judge is out of control. Makes me think she’s protecting the Odinists….kind of like she is one.
An invented boogeyman
THIS judge is crooked she need her license revoked!!! And barred from the bench ..
This is so unfair and appealable IMO.
This needs to go viral! I’ve never seen corruption in the court like this in my lifetime.
This judge is lucky she has prosecutorial immunity because her behavior should be criminal.
If she bypassed the LAW for the sake of a chomo who's Defense team did him wrong then maybe.
But it's not her fault she's doing her job.
Why is she making it so easy for this guy to get off on appeal?
Lmao how do you work that out? She's literally sticking to the letter of the law
@@nevadatan7323 blocking a defense that is based on evidence the police found could be a reason for appeal. What are you talking about?
@@TheBriar_123but the “evidence” you speak of was refuted by further investigation. So, it’s not based on evidence anymore and an appellate court would look at the same thing and agree with Gull. They wouldn’t grant the appeal. Not for this anyway.
The appeal would be strong.
@@PatD-3877 if so, then why not use that evidence and just get him out now?
He's not going to get a fair trial this judge needs to be fired period
How can she do that? Judge Gull is the worst!! She wants to be famous.
It's the law
@@gibbo822Nope. Try again.
@@lynnerhea302umm it sure is…. Perhaps you should try again
. Nope.
@@lynnerhea302 have you read the law on 3rd party defense?
Wow how can she prohibit that??? Trying to keep him from even having a defense. The Odin stuff is actually very relevant if you look into the research!
No it isn't it's all hearsay
@@gibbo822 What a good puppet! Repeat what your owners demand of you. Don’t actually look into anything, just claim what they want you to claim. Good little puppet.
@@gibbo822 its literally NOT hearsay
@@annauk29 statements that can't be corroborated? Hearsay
@@RobertA-11-11 boy I'm the boss here and I'm schooling you statements that can't be corroborated are hearsay in the eyes of the law that's not even just in the US
I suspect there is no evidence of odinism.
Another Auntie Bev. This case stinks as much too.
She is 1,000x worse than Auntie Bev
OFFS!!! Ron Logan was like 6'2". BG is no more than 5'8". Get it right Vinnie for heavens sake.
I’ve scored high on multiple super recognizer tests including blurry CCTV images and Ron Logan matches BG’s build very well. RA’s limbs are NOT the right proportions to be BG. In fact, locals recognized Ron Logan and called him into the tip line when the video was released. No one called in the local CVS guy. By the way Ron Logan like anyone over the age of 70 would have lost a couple of inches due to natural shrinkage off his recorded DL height.
RA is only 5'4".
@@livecalm2246 BS
Videographers used the fbi app for determining height based on known dimensions of the railroad ties, and it calculated BG's height to be 6ft, with a plus or minus 2 inch margin of error.
Gull must go
This Judge needs to be REMOVED FROM THIS CASE!!!!!
And YOU HOLLER!!!
I was just suspicious before. Now I know.
The suspicion that he’s being framed?
I know Richard confessed to his wife and pastor over 60x on a jail phone that was being recorded, that's what I know!
And I already know the comeback you have ready, your going to try and parrot what you've heard other people say... "But he was playing with and eating his own poop when he made those confessions".
NOPE, Richard told his wife multiple times before he ever tried the crazy roll!
I know Richard confessed over 63x to his wife and pastor on the jail phone that was being recorded, that's what I know!
I know they found a bullet at the crime scene matching ammunition he had at his house and forensics determined bullet had been ejected from Richards sig saur pistol.
And I already know the comeback you have ready, your going to try and parrot what you've heard other people saying..."but Richard was playing with and eating his own poop when he made those confessions"
NOPE, Richard told his wife several times before he ever tried the crazy roll!
If you've followed the case, you've seen like Ive seen, Richards defense has went from: "wasn't me"
"Well, I was there and I was wearing those clothes... But it wasn't me"
"I'm insane"
"It was pegan odinists"
Richard and his defense team are trying EVERYTHING
I know Richard Allen confessed 63x to his wife and pastor over a jail phone that's automatically set to record, that's what I know!
I also know investigators found a bullet matching ammunition from Richard's house and forensics determined Richard sig Sauer pistol had ejected that bullet found at the crime scene.
@ 4:40 Same hat? From what i thought from a news interview video, Ron seemed like he knew something . You can see it in his body lauguage and the way he was jumping around on the questions.
How can the judge deny the defence??
Read the ruling. They aren't being stopped whatever Defense they like,
But it can't just be baseless fingerpointing. If they can provide evidence that the alternative suspects actually have a link to the crime scene then they can go with a Third Party Defense.
Without evidence they need to go with a different Defense. Simple as that.
@@nevadatan7323 Thank you for that.
This is insane!
When there is public outcry for the rights of a defendant with these charges something has gone wrong.
Not being able to mention Odinism and Rituals is so unfair. Just like when the Menendez brothers couldn’t mention the SA they faced. How are you supposed to get a fair trial if you can’t use all the evidence and theories?
Exactly and didn't Abby date the son of an Odonist. There is a connection. He did similar rituals to those found at the crime scene.
Especially the abundance of ciphers coming from DC and the POI in question.
👮♂️🤏🟦
"Holding a blue square" DCs visual cipher. (Grid Spiral array with central space)
Odin preserve their ppl, they don’t hunt them
I thought a defendant can put on any defense or theory a defendant chooses and its up to the jury to listen to and see the evidence then come to a verdict.
Especially evidence uncovered by a police task force😮
You are clueless about law and what's actually admissable ....
Why did it take 5 years to make an arrest?????
I think she'd want to cooperate as much as possible, this case has a lot of holes and if he is convicted, it could be overturned on technicalities. just saying
So she banned all evidence pointing to someone else?? What the heck!??
This judge is corrupt.
All I have to say is that's Indiana for you. A friend of mine was charged of a crime she didn't do and her only defense which proves her innocence was not allowed in, she was convicted and sent to prison. So many corrupt courts and court players in Indiana.😡
I want to know where the judge wear her Odinic tattoo.
They secure a future for their children who are just 2% of the global children pop.
So those 3 detectives click and whoever else it was as just no good and then don't know what they're talking about? I dont think this is fair! There will be many many appeals..lets just sit back at watch...hell get A appeal that he will win just because stupid frances C Gull denying EVERY MOTION from defense. Disgusted in ohio!!!
This is ridiculous. Fair trial or a fixed trial? This court and the judge should be SHUTDOWN! ! ! No JUSTICE for ANYONE!
GAME OVER !
No Odenist defense!?! That sounds like something an Odenist would do😮
If the judge would have not allowed evidence that BLM committed the crime.... Would that mean that her husband is probably black?
She's probably got some mixed kids too, right?!
Smh
They know its an invented boogeyman.
As an Odinist, I approve this message.
They preserve their own
Well this judge is really pissing me off😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah this was totally an odinist human sacrifice.
Remove that judge and let all defense to be looked at trial.
This "b" and cannone are just ignorant!!
This should upset every US citizen, he deserves to have a defense. Not just prosecution evidence. That’s not a trial.
This trial needs a change of venue with a new judge.
Why? So defense can use the odinist human sacrifice theory? 😂😂😂
@nemonucliosis The Defense should be able to put on their defense, whatever it may be, period. This guys' constitutional rights are being trampled. He has a right to an unbiased judge. Gull ain't it.
@@tonilharmon so it would be totally cool if defense said aliens from mars committed the murders then right? Police dismissed the odinist theory years ago. Judge asked defense to present evidence of odinist and they came up with sticks. So defense is literally putting the entire case on sticks. 🤣🤣🤣
@nemonucliosis The Defense is entitled to say whatever it wants to defend their client. The judge doesn't get to tell them what the defense should be. It doesn't matter whether or not YOU believe it. What matters is what the jury believes. It's the constitutional right of the defendant to have the defense of his or her choosing.
Seems like set up to me
1:03 It’s not just the 3rd party suspects! The Motion in Limine included GEOFENCING DATA which is also NOT ALLOWED! Judge Gull needs to go. She’s done a good job of throwing herself under the bus so far.
Defense should be allowed to use the defense they want! The judge should not have that power!!
Why does Court TV invite a panel who they know will object to the judges decision? Can you say ratings?
We have all seen this movie before..
He needs to be allowed to go home IMMEDIATELY!!!
THIS JUDGE IS BIASED AND NEEDS REMOVED FROM THIS CASE, EVERYONE DESERVES A FAIR TRIAL! THIS STUPID JUDGE IS GONNA THINGS JUST MORE DRAWN OUT FOR EVEN MORE YEARS CAUSE SHE REALLY NEEDS REMOVED SHE'S GOT IT OUT 4 Allen, SMDH
its not ron logan he lied cause he was driving when not meant to be pp lie for diffrent reasons his sis said he cant walk that bridge.
Ron Logan IMHO is the real perpetrator. This judge ruling is unfair and biased.
I think he's the one who led them to his property, but is probably not the killer. BH was staying with him, and Abby was dating BH's son. Most likely scenario to me is that BH son was supposed to meet the girls but they sent Logan to fetch them and guide them to their Valisblot party.
What??? What is going on with this case, this judge clearly shouldn’t be on this case!!
OMG!!! STOP ALREADY! Ron Logan does NOT look like the guy in the video!! Not even close!!!
Start thanking the Judge now when he is released as a mistrial or if convicted, released due to misconduct/bias. She isn't fit to be a judge.
Nope, people have been talking about him being released because of the judge for 2 years now.
Not here to say he did or didn't do this but this man is not getting a fair trial.
He's not guilty folks🎉
No but he admitted 61 times
@audreykassem8010 did he! Sorry didn't know! 🙏
@@mamabear5488 Under mental torture given by the odinist prison guards that is. The prison guards had odinist symbols on their clothing and they admitted it.
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63 times.... Over jail phones that automatically record!
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How's that Kool-Aid taste?!
And you call yourself a mother?
smh!
Since when can defendants only use judge approved defenses? If their legit defense is a cult then that should be put before the jury!!! Whole case is looking gross, unfair, and Allen isn't looking or sounding like the sociopath who butchered those little girls.
I think it’s interesting that people are upset with the judge not letting the Odinism theory I. The court room, yet we are not seeing what the judge sees. Most likely the judge has good reason to not allow that theory in the court room.
Correct, as they preserve these rare children
I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but this case just stinks more and more. And the worst part is I’m pretty convinced that if he’s convicted, he’s gonna get it overturned on appeal and that doesn’t bring justice for anyone.
Gives them more to appeal if he's found guilty... JS...
They have the burden of proof if there was a third party.
think how many people searched for them and they walked right by the bodies all cut up there was no red flags here folks lol
"All cut up" ? Who was "all cut up"? No information has been released about the condition of the bodies. Its posts like yours that make NPC armchair lawyers delusional about reality.
Can we just wait to see what unfolds during the trial before we get our panties in a wad.
Apparently you missed the point. The trial isn’t even going to include some very significant evidence.
That’s the point guilty or innocent he isn’t getting a fair trial. Only the prosecution evidence… this should upset every US citizen
Persued and disproven by the law enforcement task force...you forgot that last part.
Our courts are a joke
I suspect this case will be turned on appeal on the Judges bias alone. May not make it to trial.
The only way this case is ever going to trial is they get a new judge plain and simple the Supreme Court needs to jump in and remove this so call judge and appoint a new judge so case can go to trial and give these girls family peace once and for all
This judge is out of control
The more I watch these vids, the more I start thinking it was Ron Logan who did it.
The more comments you make like this one the more you'll appear to be a delusional NPC RA cheerleader.
This judge is BAD, and needs to be removed from the case, as does the prosecutor. I've never seen anything like this in my life. The only good thing is this will be a good reason to throw out the verdict on appeal, if he's convicted. So, in other words, the judge is banning any mentions of the TRUTH, so as not to confuse the jury. They can decide the case based on Judge Gull's "truth"! How can they get away with such blatant bias and misconduct??!! Vinnie, what can we do to bring attention to this GROSS injustice?! I don't know if he did it or not, but I know that the jury is entitled to know all the facts of this boggled investigation.....Allen deserves to be able to defend himself and he is being robbed of that chance by Gull. I thought this stuff only happened in movies. Wow!
They want him to be guilty so bad!!!!
Defense attorneys are very good at bringing up red herrings to confuse juries. I don’t know if this ruling is correct, but it is common for judges to not allow bad faith arguments made by defense counsels.
But it’s not a bad faith argument. When law-enforcement said they had to be more than one person based on the evidence at the crime scene, and they have a number of people that they have not conclusively ruled out, the defence has a pretty strong argument for being able to put forward an alternate suspect.
If those suspects were legitimately ruled out, let the investigators get on the stand and explain why they were ruled out
I’m not saying guilt or innocence, but this judge has been very questionable from day one, won’t this just end up in appeal after appeal if you can’t use certain defences
Ready for something that will blow your mind? There were two sketches of suspects, and they look totally different, which is puzzling. Remember how we were all like, “What the heck? Two sketches?” We’ve never seen that in a case before. One sketch, showing a younger man, came from a witness who saw him at the park that day. This means there’s another unknown person who was there as well and is still out there.
"I thought he said ONANISM!"
Politicians want to finish this soon
This judge is fixed on convicting Richard Allen. Disgraceful in my opinion!!!
Richard Allen
Richard allen. Get it right before you go making up stuff. This judge doesn't even know Allen ffs 🙄
@@Stephany-d1i The same judge he’s had all along. She’s clearly biased. Richard Allen is not getting a fair shake from her.
She will mess up this whole case the guy will be able to appeal...shes not right in the head ...she is not allowing a fair trial ...and i believe hes guilty but he deserves a fair trial
Well it IS Indiana
He didnt work at CBS? Since when?
Do we know why the sketch changed so drastically?
Did this judge go to the same law school as Glanville on the YSL case.
Which man has a fanny pack? that will tell you the killer because how many men do you know go walking in the park wearing a fanny pack.
That's not a fanny pack it's a tanned jacket
Ron Logan wore a tan Fanny pack or “hunters kit” everyday where he would keep his gun and knives. This was proven by his ex girlfriend whom he had hit over the head with a ratchet. Ron Logan was a violent man and anyone that says he was too old blah blah blah I think it was Ron Logan and a handful of others that committed the crime. RL lived right by the monon bridge his whole life and could easily navigate that bridge from his experience. I’m not sure if that video of bridge guy is real or not but if it is Ron Logan was wearing the same exact outfit the next day and you can clearly see the tan Fanny pack on bridge guys right side where he wears it!!! He also has his pants baggy at the bottom as well! He could have easily threatened them to his property which was where they ended up being found and that would make sense as to why nobody heard or saw anything. I believe he threatened them down the side of the hill where the others were waiting to help snatch them up and take them quickly to his property. Ron Logan made up a false alibi before the girls were even reported missing 🤔 imo he definitely had knowledge about the crime and could have easily been hiding near by on his property in wait for the girls to walk on the bridge! I believe the arrest of Richard Allen was for publicity for the sheriff election for Tony Liggett, had they pinned it on Ron Logan he was already dead and they wanted to act as if they were getting justice for Abby & Libby’s unalivings. I feel other high ranking individuals also played a part in the sacrifice and figured Richard Allen would be the perfect guy to bully and set up. RA was never not once tipped into the tip line but other key ppl were like Ron Logan, Brad Holder, even good ol boy Tony Ligget. If they had enough evidence and a solid case against RA then why did they have to lose all the key interviews, why do they have to ban the defense strategy, why was boss man Nick withholding discovery? Why do two LE lie under oath and about the Purdue professor. So much shady things going on for the state when they supposedly have a “solid” case. I guess it’s easy for the state to go with their narrative (when the timeline makes no sense at all) when they totally ban RA from even having a defense smh!
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Ron Logan's ex girlfriend from 50 years prior??
Oh yes how legit 🤦 " I knew it was his voice" you recogniseed a voice that had aged 50+ years 🤣🤣🤣
@@gibbo822 whatever dude 🙄😂you’re such a troll
@@gibbo822 oh are you an expert in voice recognition? Voice sounds a lot like RL it definitely does not sound like RA
todos esperaremos que la justicia cumpla bien deber y no deje que el culpable o culpables esten riendose
I personally and honestly don’t think ra is bg
4:46 we don’t know for sure the bridge guy is the killer . The judge on this case is an embarrassment to judges everywhere ! She should be ashamed of herself for SO many reasons !!
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That defense was outrageous from the start! How would RA know who did this crime if he really didn’t do it?
Many months ago I said the judge herself was an Odinite, half joking, but as time passed I saw it as more and more likely. This newest outrageous ruling pretty much seals the deal for me. She is either involved in the cult herself or have people close to her who are involved. In fact, I can envision her at some sort of Odinite masked ball, the type where attendees drop their clothes at the front door. I mean, look at her. It's probably the only way she gets any male attention.
They preserve White children, they don’t do this
He's innocent and being framed
But he confessed 63x to his wife and pastor over a jail phone set to automatically record conversations 😂
Lmao 😂
judges should not be allowed to exclude the defense way to do the defense
this judge needs to be barred from office. Another judge with a GD -complex
So it would be totally cool if defense said aliens fron Mars committed the murders and they will being Alien experts to testify about how aliens would murder humans right?