"A walking song" doesn't feature in any of the movies, but the last verse of the poem in the song composed by Billy Boyd who played Pippin called Edge of Night what he sings to the Steward.
The Charge of the Rohirrim at the Pelennor Fields is one of my favorite cinematic moments i've ever seen. The Fiddle in the Background, the acceptance of their fate with "Death! Death! DEATH!" and charging into guaranteed destruction all put together creates such a moving emotional combination. And then them reforming to charge the Oliphaunts because all they know is that they need to do everything they can to help the City, regardless of their surviving. This movie well deserved its 11 Oscars
The spider's name is Shelob, which is just a contraction of "She-lob," "lob" just being an archaic term for spider (from old English "loppe"). So, "female spider." Shelob is the spawn of the spider-demon Ungoliant, a monstrous thing that was afflicted by an all-consuming hunger. Shelob lived in those tunnels before Sauron set up shop in Mordor, and he found her presence useful as a sort of guard-dog on that particular route into Mordor. For her own part, Shelob didn't care one jot about Sauron, only to feed.
"I feel so proud of them!" Howard Shore taking the mournful strings of the Rohan theme and elevating it to a rousing battle anthem 😁 The LotR score is easily his best work.
the giant flaming battering ram is named Grond & has protective enchantments written onto it. it's named after a weapon that Morgoth, the original Dark Lord, had used.
Remember that Denethor's (Faramir's dad) mind has been poisoned by Sauron through the Palantir (the crystal ball thing), the same way he poisoned Saruman's mind. If Saruman could not resist him, the Steward of Gondor has no chance. Denethor is just as susceptible as Boromir was to the ring.
Very true. This is the one book detail PJ didn't include that I feel like would have added an entirely different, and imo needed, dimension to Denethor. As it is he comes off as an almost cartoonishly callous asshole.
@@kobaianvagabond1344 that is a good point. Probably one of the few mistakes Jackson made, along with not putting the Osgiliath flashback scene or Saruman's death scene in the theatrical cuts. At least the last 2 were corrected in the EE's. Also, doesn't Denethor hint at it in Osgiliath when he is talking to Boromir? It's the most subtle of references IIRC. I have read rumors that Jackson has a lot of additional footage he hasn't released. I've wondered if he doesn't have a very brief scene of Denethor and the Palantir that could be included in like a 20th anniversary edition...
I think an oft forgotten point is that both of Denethor's children were stronger than he ever was. Faramir refused the ring, and Boromir even though he was seduced by the ring, in the end he understood the power it had and confessed to Aragorn. Then he gave the ultimate redemption. Something that Denethor couldn't even conceive. Perhaps Denathor was once a great man, but by the end he had succumbed to fear and despair and lust for power.
@@tarmaque He had succumbed by fear and despair and lust for power because of Sauron influencing him through the Palantir. It could have been a small quick scene, with him holding the Palantir while sitting on his throne, it could have been easily been added to the extended edition. It would reveal that Denethor was not a bad man, just afraid for the future of Gondor and it's people. Because in the book he lost his mind completely when he had a vision of ships coming to raid Gondor, he only did not see the ghost army coming to their rescue.
Gandalf riding around rallying everyone to fight was huge. You can bet he used his Ring of Power, Narya, to help bolster the troops, it gives him a huge charisma bonus and allows the user to bolster the hearts of men, elves, dwarves, etc
Yes, John Rhys Davies is Welsh. You'll also see him in the first Indiana Jones movie. When I first read the book, I didn't know who was the rider called "Dernhelm" that was smuggling Merry along with the King. She cut her hair and masked her voice and kept apart from everyone else while they were riding, though some other riders interacted with Merry and didn't ask about the rider he was with or question him being there. I don't know why the movie didn't keep her hidden until the big reveal as she was fighting the final boss.
fwiw Eowyn's disguise is a bit more convincing in the book. It's the difference between a staged adaptation, I guess, it's a lot quicker for the film to show her hiding her identity with just the helmet. In the book, she takes on an entire male persona called Dernhelm, and neither Merry nor the reader knows it's her until her final confrontation on the battlefield.
I’d say introducing viewers to a whole new person like that could be a bit much for a movie. I can see why they made that decision. I like accurate translations from book to movie but there’s a need to simplify that’s understandable.
it comes at a very different point in the book. Here it sounds like a sad song whose message is "everyone is going to die". But it's not really a sad song. It's a travelling song about going out, away from home, to do the things you need to do, and then returning home at the end of day and going to sleep as night falls.
@@Makkaru112 Actually, it's Bilbo's song, which he taught to Frodo at some point. It's on page 115 of Fellowship, and is referred to as "A Walking Song". The part Boyd sings is a paraphrase of the third verse, which in the book goes like this: Home is behind, the world ahead, And there are many paths to tread Through shadows to the edge of night, Until the stars are all alight. Then world behind and home ahead, We'll wander back to home and bed. Mist and twilight, cloud and shade, Away shall fade! Away shall fade! Fire and lamp, and meat and bread, And then to bed! And then to bed!
The movies don't go into it but Denethor (Faramir's dad) was actually a good man once. He had been driven to madness & despair by Sauron through a Palantir (black crystal ball), similar to the one Sarumon owned. Another thing the movies don't really go into is the amount of magical items and weapons being used - or the powers they possess.
In the movies, Gandalf couldn't fight the Witch-king because he was susceptible to the fear that they magically induced. This left him vulnerable and helpless. Even in the books, Gandalf originally didn't want to go to Middle-earth because he was afraid of Sauron, so he's always had a confidence problem. Only someone who is fearless or effectively fearless enough can challenge a Nazgûl. That would be Aragorn and very few others.
"It's just a hand," She says as though she would be totally chill with a spectral hand reaching towards her face in a dark tunnel where you're walking on skulls (seriously, where are the rest of the skeletons? I want to know the answer to this)
For Christmas I bought my father the extended edition 4k Ultra HD set, and I can't wait to watch them on Christmas day! One of those gifts you buy for another person but mostly for yourself lmao 😂😂
Love Rohan? it wouldn’t have ever existed without Galadriel’s help: She saved Gondor & enabled Rohan. She delivered Gondor from invasion and led to the foundation of Rohan, five centuries before the LotR. This is an account on the event. The Rohirrim were in origin the folk named Éothéod, who lived in the North. In 2510 of the Third Age Gondor was invaded by both Easterlings and Orcs at the same time. Borondir, a messenger, delivered a desperate request for aid from the Steward of Gondor to the Éothéod; for their forefathers had often been allies (check art by Julax). Eorl the Young, the King of the Éothéod rode out on his steed Felaróf (a forefather of Shadowfax), and his mounted host followed, seven thousand strong (art by Wouter Florusse). They rode along the Mirkwood forest until they came near Dol Guldur, where the Necromancer [Sauron] had his abode; and the attacks on Gondor were according to his will... Eorl turned away westward for fear of the dark shadow and cloud that flowed out from Dol Guldur, and then he rode on within sight of the Anduin river. Many riders looked toward the river, half in fear and half in hope to glimpse from afar the Dwimordene, the perilous land that in legends of their people was said to shine like gold in spring: Lórien. "But now it seemed shrouded in a gleaming mist and to their dismay the mist passed over the river and flowed over the land before them. Eorl did not halt. `Ride on!' he commanded. `There is no other way to take. After so long a road shall we be held back from battle by a river-mist?'" ~ Unfinished Tales; III; II (check art by Guillaume Tholly) But they saw that the white mist was driving back the glooms of Dol Guldur, and soon they passed into it, riding slowly at first and warily; but under its canopy all things were lit with a clear and shadowless light, while to left and right they were guarded as it were by white walls of secrecy: "`The Lady of the Golden Wood is on our side, it seems,' said Borondir." • Eorl was not as sure about that as the messenger but trusted in the wisdom of his horse Felaróf: "`He scents no evil. His heart is high, and his weariness is healed: he strains to be given his head. So be it! For never have I had more need of secrecy and speed.' Then Felaróf sprang forward, and all the host behind followed like a great wind, but in a strange silence, as if their hooves did not beat upon the ground." The host rode on, as fresh and eager as on the morning of their setting-out, during that day and the next (obviously thanks to Galadriel). At dawn of the third day they rose from rest and the mist was gone, and they saw that they were far out in the open lands. A crossing of the river was near and "they had come there at a speed beyond hope". The Éothéod arrived in the nick of time to rescue Gondor's army and defeat their foes (art by JB Casacop). The intervention by Galadriel both saved Gondor and ensured the foundation of Rohan, for in gratitude (and wisdom) the Steward gave Gondor's northern territory to Eorl. There the Éothéod settled, soon known as the Eorlingas or the Rohirrim, and held it until the LotR.
To better understand Gandalf please allow me to expand on the question regarding the existence of a God in the LOTR universe. You must consider that J.R.R. Tolkien was a devout Catholic WHILE recognizing how sacred the Fae Folk are for example, he honoured them. "Eru lluvatar was transcendent, completely outside of and beyond the world. He first created a group of angelic beings, called in Elvish the "Ainur," and these holy spirits were co-actors in the creation of Arda through a holy music and chanting called the "Music of the Ainur.! He is also known as "the All-Powerful" and he alone could create independent life, or reality, using the "Flame Imperishable". The next thing he fashioned was Ea, the "World and All That Is", and Ea was in the Void (or "the Outside" as it was sometimes called. He then gave the Ainur the option to go into Eä and fashion it as they will. The Greatest Ainur who chose to do so were called the Valar, and they controlled the shaping of Arda. [...] The Valar were accompanied by the Maiar, the lesser Ainur. Elves and mankind, however, came directly from Ilúvatar's thoughts, and are referred to in The Silmarillion as the "First" and "Second" Children of Ilúvatar (or Eruhini), respectively." The Wizards (Saruman the White, Gandalf the Grey, and others) are actually Maiar, so they are not "sorcerers" who cast spells, they are more similar to actual angels. Remember what Gandalf told the Balrog in The Fellowship of the Ring: "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass! The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn." He's telling the Balrog that he is a servant of God, wielder of divine light. The reason why it is done this way (having wizards with limited powers inspire and guide the battles against the Enemy) is because in past conflicts, when the Valar did intervene directly, there was massive destruction to the World, with entire continents disappearing under the sea. So this time they decided to have a more... indirect approach. Hopefully I've managed to give you a better idea of the lore behind, avoiding any spoilers. Can't wait for The Return of the King!
“Fell beasts” isn’t really a name. “Fell” is just an adjective meaning fierce or cruel and of course, beast is beast. Tolkien also just says “winged creatures”.
Denethor like Saruman had one of the Palantir and used it to communicate with Saruman and as a remote viewing tool to see things far away. Certainly up to the time of Bilbo finding Gollum's ring in his quest to the Lonely Mountain with the Dwarves. Which led to the killing of the Last Dragon Smaug and the battle of the 5 Armies when Men, Dwarves and Elves fought as allies alongside each other; against Sauron's Orcs from the North and from the Misty mountains. This is the story of the Hobbit which is Bilbo's history of those events. What Denethor and Saruman did not know to begin with was that Sauron had one or more and that anyone with a stronger mind could alter what others saw with it or infiltrate their minds. Over decades Sauron used it to spy on them, then having won battles with the knowledge gained he set them up with breadcrumbs discovered on the field of battle to set Saruman and Denethor against each other and to try to split Rohan from Gondor. He then revealed himself in turn to each. Corrupting Saruman and cowing Denthor by showing him a magnified display of his own forces. He could also as with Pippin get into their heads and thus make them paranoid. That was why Gandalf knowing some of the Palantir were unaccounted for, warned against the use of the them.
“No matter what comes through that gate, you will stand your ground!” In the theatrical cut, after the armored trolls come through, it cuts to Gandalf who shouts “Run!” So no matter what-except that!
They don't explain that Denethor had been using a seeing Stone like Saruman was, and was being shown only the very worst things by Sauron - Sauron couldn't control Denethor because his will was too strong but he COULD deceive Denethor, that's why he was despairing so badly
the shrieks of the Nazgul are an effect called the Black Breath which instills fear & terror in anyone who hears it so it's very demoralizing to the enemy.
Sorry to have to say, Dawn Marie, that Gimli, the dwarf in TLOTR, is actually played by a 6' 1" Welshman, name of John Rhys-Davies. I know, i know... And TLOTR was filmed entirely in New Zealand. There is this, though: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Boyd_(actor) Go, Scotland !!! You, by the way, have the prettiest accent in the world.
The spider in the movie was called Shelob and that's what Gollem meant when he said 'She could do it' in the end of part 2. And the creatures that the Nazgul wer're riding on were creatures from an older world whose kind, still lingering in forgotten mountains cold under the moon, outlived it's time and there in a hideous eagle's nest hatched this last untimely brood, bent on evil. And Sauron took it and raised it on wild flesh until it was greater than all other things that fly, and he gave it to his servant to serve as his steed.
Faramir's Father doesnt want faramir's death.. He is desperate and he is lost his mind.. But if you look carefully at 3:13 you will see that when orcs shout their arrows, denethor is pouring red liquid out of his mouth ( reference for blood ).. After that scene, he realized what he did..
the Phial of Galadriel has a very long & complex past that's at the center of all history on Middle Earth. a long time ago before there even were Ages Valinor was lit by two very special Trees, that actually glowed, waxing & waning opposite each other; one in gold & the other silver. an Elven craftsman named Feanor made 3 fabulous gems called the Silmarils that captured the light of the Trees. Morgoth hated the Trees & eventually found a way to destroy them using another giant spider, an ancestor of Shelob named Ungoliant who sucked the sap from them so the only remnant of the holy Light was in the Silmarils. now everybody coveted them, even Morgoth & the Valar. whole wars were fought over them; for a while Morgoth had them & wore them in a crown. eventually they were wrested from Morgoth & back into the hands of Elves. 2 were lost, one in the sea & another in a volcano. the third came into custody of a half-Elf named Earendil who sailed to Valinor to give it to the Valar. they took the last Silmaril, turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Earendil as its keeper & guardian. the liquid in Galadriel's phial contains the last of the Light of the Trees coming from the star Earendil. very powerful stuff with a very ancient history.
Since the movie doesn't ever show Young Denethor, viewers don't realize that denethor was a good man at one time. His only flaw was that he thought too highly of himself. He thought that he could look into the palantir orb, but when he did so he let Sauron in and sauron bent his mind, sort of similar to how Saruman had bent the mind of King Theoden.
It also doesn't make it clear that Sauron tried to make Denethor join him like he did with Saruman, but Denethor did not give in. It still drove him mad with despair, but he never surrendered.
@@scottdean2199 In that way at least Denethor, a mortal Man, had greater willpower and strength of character than a Maiar. That's actually incredibly impressive.
@@1dalea yes. He also comes from a powerful lineage, his father wasn’t lightly named after Echthelion! And his children are half Numenorean thanks to the mother named Finduilas, after the famous elven maiden I believe was the lover of Turin! ❤️
The Siege of Minas Tirith was inspired by the 2nd Siege of Vienna in 1683. The Ottoman Turks were besieging Vienna, Austria and called upon their allies in the Catholic League, led by the Kingdom of Poland. 6000 Rohirrim vs. 300,000 Orks. The Battle of Vienna had half as many Turks, but 18,000 cavalry charging down a hill at the Ottoman army. 3 times larger than what we see on the screen. At the head of the army was 3000 heavy cavalry, the famed Polish Winged Hussars (que Sabaton)
There is a theory that Denethor was slowly poisoning himself while eating. The acidic tomatoes were leaching the lead from the pewter plates, and he was slowly going mad from the lead poisoning. Losing Boromir was the final straw.
For those unfamiliar with the books, Denethor had one of the Palantirs, and Sauron had corrupted him with false visions and enslaved his mind in a way similar to the way he influenced and corrupted Saruman. When Denethor tells Gandalf that "Gondor is mine." that was pretty much Sauron talking. That flippin' spider is Shelob, one of the descendants of Ungoliant, and that is no small terror.
In the first scene with Denethor in the book, he says that he must only let go of taking charge if someone of the old King's line comes back. Minas Tirith had already sent the women and children out and called in whatever reinforcements they could.
9:30 The question that always occurs to me at this point is "If there are that many skulls, where are the rest of the bones? Was this haunted pass once the home of a race of disembodied, floating heads?"
At Helm’s Deep, 300 Rohirrim faced 10,000 Uruk-hai. Here 6000 Rohirrim face 100,000 Haradrim (Southerners), Easterlings, and orcs. 20 times as many good guys vs. 10 times as many bad guys. Their odds were actually twice as good as at Helm’s Deep (though no trees came to help).
The charge of the Rhohirrim (Rohan) was inspired by The Charge of the Light Brigade by Lord Alfred Tennyson. It's a poem about a doomed British cavalry unit in the Crimean War. They are ordered to charge into a valley where they are vastly outnumbered and susceptible to cannon fire from all angles. In short, they know they are going to die. But they charge in anyway. The Rhohirrim are exhausted from riding day and night, and tremendously outnumbered. Theoden thinks this is the end of not just his line, but of all of his people. But it is the right thing to do. So he calls them on: Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden! spear shall be shaken, shield shall be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now, ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending! Death! Death! Forth Eorlingas! (the sons and daughters of Eorl the Young, who long ago answered Gondor's call for aid in much the same way, and in the King of Gondor's gratitude, were awarded their lands so that they would have a home for their people forever) It is one of the most stirring moments ever in cinema. And it was Peter Jackson's favorite as well. He once joked that he made these movies just so he could make this scene. I have seen these movies dozens of times, and it brings a tear to my eye. Every. Damn. Time.
More likely it's based on the charge of the Polish Winged Hussars at the battle of Vienna, because they broke the Ottoman lines and saved the city. The Charge of the Light Brigade was a smaller force, and was resoundingly defeated.
@@rikk319 Perhaps to some extent. However, the entire point was that Theoden WAS tremendously outnumbered. IIRC it was 6,000 cavalry against 200,000 orcs plus trolls, Haradrim, etc. So Theoden was all but certain that they were going to die. The 3k Winged Hussars were part of an 18k cavalry force and something like 90k total forces against the 150k of the opposition. While the Winged Hussars were an awesome and legendary fighting force, I don't think it's equivalent to the desperate circumstances at Pelennor. Also, this is the nerdiest conversation I have had all week. Thanks for that.
@@nineradvocate Not a problem. We nerds have to have something to pass our time :D I read somewhere that the Morgul army was around 25,000, but then Tolkien was never fully clear on it, unless he mentioned it in one of his letters. In the books, with the Gondorians coming from Pelargir and the vassal fiefs with Aragorn, it was a long-fought battle even with the Rohirrim arriving to prevent the Witch-King's forces from entering the city.
The oliphaunts are really just "normal" animals. Peaceful, grass-eaters, like regular elephants, under usual circumstances. But these have been trained and goaded into war.
What the movie did not show is that the "orb" Saruman and Sauron use to talk is one of three... Denethor had the third. He used it and like Saruman he got caught and corrupted my Sauron. He lost his... goodness and became the jerk we see now. Enjoyed you reaction looking forward to part 3.
I don't think he lost his goodness so much as was driven mad with despair. Unlike Saruman, Denethor did not surrender and join Sauron, but the horrors and massive armies Sauron continually showed him made Denethor lose all hope. He was not as mean in the books so much as nihilistic.
The tower things were real things in the day called "siege towers." They us them, the catapults, and trebuchets appropriately in this movie. All part of siege warfare back in the day. The Nazgul can fight but their main weapon is fear. Not many can withstand the fear.
It's a ridiculous scene. In the book, there were maybe a few thousand oathbreakers ... not millions of them. This kind of overkill wasn't needed - it's more Indiana Jones than Tolkien.
The only weapon the men of the mountain possess is terror. People simply die of fear when confronted with them. I can imagine doing that myself if I saw a host of armed ghosts coming at me.
C'mon Part 3 of movie Number III! These movies get better and better as they go. You'll see. Then you will want to go to New Zealand and see all these places for yourself.
I’ve seen a lot of people be critical of the Rohirrim deciding to form a cavalry charge against the Mumakil (elephants). But people severely underestimate the actual power a coordinated cavalry charge has. A charge like that is devastating.
I’ve always been a fan of that one member of the Rohirrim at 23:02. He’s such a badass. He’s so psyched to mow down some Orcs, does not give a fuuuck that he’ll likely die.
Gandalf is Maia (Spirit) named Olorin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will and individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf and lived among them whilst they were unknowing and he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) and the other Istari (the order sent around the same time and of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is and a student of the Vala by the name Nienna and Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being and Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” and basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife and sadness and longing. Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea Arien is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon.
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1:15:30 the sword is magick. normal swords cant cut those webs or thru the spider. (or trolls in the books) _JC
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The guy shot with the arrow that was supposed to be a warning shot at 13:37 is actually the director of this film in a cameo ....Peter Jackson .
"A walking song" doesn't feature in any of the movies, but the last verse of the poem in the song composed by Billy Boyd who played Pippin called Edge of Night what he sings to the Steward.
'The Dwarf is single'. You made me spit my beer all over my keyboard and monitor. Great reaction. Thanks.
"The dwarf is single" I'M DEAD LMAO
The dwarves were fighting their own wars in the north at this time
The Charge of the Rohirrim at the Pelennor Fields is one of my favorite cinematic moments i've ever seen. The Fiddle in the Background, the acceptance of their fate with "Death! Death! DEATH!" and charging into guaranteed destruction all put together creates such a moving emotional combination. And then them reforming to charge the Oliphaunts because all they know is that they need to do everything they can to help the City, regardless of their surviving. This movie well deserved its 11 Oscars
“Oh you can bugger off’ is like the most British response ever 😂
The spider's name is Shelob, which is just a contraction of "She-lob," "lob" just being an archaic term for spider (from old English "loppe"). So, "female spider." Shelob is the spawn of the spider-demon Ungoliant, a monstrous thing that was afflicted by an all-consuming hunger. Shelob lived in those tunnels before Sauron set up shop in Mordor, and he found her presence useful as a sort of guard-dog on that particular route into Mordor. For her own part, Shelob didn't care one jot about Sauron, only to feed.
I thought shelob was a woman before?
@@TheRoflSpartan I thought it was Ungoliant that could take the form of a woman but choose to remain as a spider but I could be wrong.
@@MarkLloyd72 No no you're right that was it.
Funny, Shelobs mama almost killed Morgoth, and Shelobs failure to stop Sam and Frodo caused Sauron to extinguish.
@@TheRoflSpartan That's from the Shadow of War game. While an excellent game, it isn't canon
One wouldn't expect a place called Mordor would be so hard to get into....
What's funny about the notion of Éowyn mothering Merry is that he is 13 years older than she is.
5:32 - “Look how big it is!” - I do not exaggerate. When I heard that, the soda I was drinking flew out of my nose.
All it needed was the pornhub theme song to play behind it. 😂😂😂
'The Dwarf's single." YES! Let Gimli have some!
"I feel so proud of them!"
Howard Shore taking the mournful strings of the Rohan theme and elevating it to a rousing battle anthem 😁 The LotR score is easily his best work.
It's an amazing scene in the book as well. Glad they were able to do it justice.
The evolution of Legolas and Gimli's friendship is a magnificent one indeed
”The dwarf’s single!”
Dawn Marie - The matchmaker. 😉
the giant flaming battering ram is named Grond & has protective enchantments written onto it. it's named after a weapon that Morgoth, the original Dark Lord, had used.
Remember that Denethor's (Faramir's dad) mind has been poisoned by Sauron through the Palantir (the crystal ball thing), the same way he poisoned Saruman's mind. If Saruman could not resist him, the Steward of Gondor has no chance. Denethor is just as susceptible as Boromir was to the ring.
Very true. This is the one book detail PJ didn't include that I feel like would have added an entirely different, and imo needed, dimension to Denethor. As it is he comes off as an almost cartoonishly callous asshole.
How is somebody that hasn't read the books supposed to remember this?
@@kobaianvagabond1344 that is a good point. Probably one of the few mistakes Jackson made, along with not putting the Osgiliath flashback scene or Saruman's death scene in the theatrical cuts. At least the last 2 were corrected in the EE's.
Also, doesn't Denethor hint at it in Osgiliath when he is talking to Boromir? It's the most subtle of references IIRC.
I have read rumors that Jackson has a lot of additional footage he hasn't released. I've wondered if he doesn't have a very brief scene of Denethor and the Palantir that could be included in like a 20th anniversary edition...
I think an oft forgotten point is that both of Denethor's children were stronger than he ever was. Faramir refused the ring, and Boromir even though he was seduced by the ring, in the end he understood the power it had and confessed to Aragorn. Then he gave the ultimate redemption. Something that Denethor couldn't even conceive. Perhaps Denathor was once a great man, but by the end he had succumbed to fear and despair and lust for power.
@@tarmaque He had succumbed by fear and despair and lust for power because of Sauron influencing him through the Palantir. It could have been a small quick scene, with him holding the Palantir while sitting on his throne, it could have been easily been added to the extended edition. It would reveal that Denethor was not a bad man, just afraid for the future of Gondor and it's people. Because in the book he lost his mind completely when he had a vision of ships coming to raid Gondor, he only did not see the ghost army coming to their rescue.
The Ride of the Rohirrim to this day gives me goosebumps and teary eyes. Most epic moment of all time in a film. Fucking mind blowing!
Gandalf riding around rallying everyone to fight was huge. You can bet he used his Ring of Power, Narya, to help bolster the troops, it gives him a huge charisma bonus and allows the user to bolster the hearts of men, elves, dwarves, etc
Yes, John Rhys Davies is Welsh.
You'll also see him in the first Indiana Jones movie.
When I first read the book, I didn't know who was the rider called "Dernhelm" that was smuggling Merry along with the King. She cut her hair and masked her voice and kept apart from everyone else while they were riding, though some other riders interacted with Merry and didn't ask about the rider he was with or question him being there.
I don't know why the movie didn't keep her hidden until the big reveal as she was fighting the final boss.
fwiw Eowyn's disguise is a bit more convincing in the book. It's the difference between a staged adaptation, I guess, it's a lot quicker for the film to show her hiding her identity with just the helmet. In the book, she takes on an entire male persona called Dernhelm, and neither Merry nor the reader knows it's her until her final confrontation on the battlefield.
I’d say introducing viewers to a whole new person like that could be a bit much for a movie. I can see why they made that decision. I like accurate translations from book to movie but there’s a need to simplify that’s understandable.
Fun fact: Billy Boyd (Pippin) actually sang that song at 3:01 himself and apparently everyone on set started crying
it comes at a very different point in the book. Here it sounds like a sad song whose message is "everyone is going to die". But it's not really a sad song. It's a travelling song about going out, away from home, to do the things you need to do, and then returning home at the end of day and going to sleep as night falls.
Meanwhile it’s actually Arwens’s song and it’s much longer than the one sung in the movie! Still love it though !
@@PhilBagels
Apparently it was added to the script after they heard Billy Boyd singing in the pub one night after shooting.
@@Makkaru112 Actually, it's Bilbo's song, which he taught to Frodo at some point. It's on page 115 of Fellowship, and is referred to as "A Walking Song". The part Boyd sings is a paraphrase of the third verse, which in the book goes like this:
Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We'll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!
FYI. The man on the ship that was shot by Legolas (with a bit of help from Gimli) is Peter Jackson, the director.
Everyone on deck of that ship was a department head, lead artists, and producers. Kind of a fun moment for them that they put together.
I think in this scene, he tried to show Christopher Lee what a stabbed man is supposed to sound like.
That's false, I mean if the Director died mid-production we wouldn't have a finished film.
The Ride of the Rohirrium is my screen saver, because every day is a battle.
He really does have a good voice. Billy Boyd is a real singer.
Shelob is who Gollem was referring to when he said I could let "her" do it! She is the giant spider in the book.
Ara-gone almost made me choke on my water.
The movies don't go into it but Denethor (Faramir's dad) was actually a good man once. He had been driven to madness & despair by Sauron through a Palantir (black crystal ball), similar to the one Sarumon owned. Another thing the movies don't really go into is the amount of magical items and weapons being used - or the powers they possess.
I think Aragorn loves Éowyn, as in cares about her. It's just not in the way that she wishes that he did.
In the movies, Gandalf couldn't fight the Witch-king because he was susceptible to the fear that they magically induced. This left him vulnerable and helpless. Even in the books, Gandalf originally didn't want to go to Middle-earth because he was afraid of Sauron, so he's always had a confidence problem. Only someone who is fearless or effectively fearless enough can challenge a Nazgûl. That would be Aragorn and very few others.
could you point me to the portion that says Gandalf was afraid of the witch-king? I don't remember that.
"It's just a hand," She says as though she would be totally chill with a spectral hand reaching towards her face in a dark tunnel where you're walking on skulls (seriously, where are the rest of the skeletons? I want to know the answer to this)
the words of the song Pippin sings to Denethor are Tolkien's but the tune was made up by Billy Boyd who plays Pippin for the scene. impressive feat.
"Four bangs and its down"
Yeah, that's the amount that does me in as well 😝
I never thought I would say this but it’s so refreshing to see someone just laugh at the giant spider 😂😂😂
For Christmas I bought my father the extended edition 4k Ultra HD set, and I can't wait to watch them on Christmas day! One of those gifts you buy for another person but mostly for yourself lmao 😂😂
"The dwarf's single" love it! 😂
Love Rohan? it wouldn’t have ever existed without Galadriel’s help: She saved Gondor & enabled Rohan.
She delivered Gondor from invasion and led to the foundation of Rohan, five centuries before the LotR. This is an account on the event.
The Rohirrim were in origin the folk named Éothéod, who lived in the North. In 2510 of the Third Age Gondor was invaded by both Easterlings and Orcs at the same time. Borondir, a messenger, delivered a desperate request for aid from the Steward of Gondor to the Éothéod; for their forefathers had often been allies (check art by Julax).
Eorl the Young, the King of the Éothéod rode out on his steed Felaróf (a forefather of Shadowfax), and his mounted host followed, seven thousand strong (art by Wouter Florusse). They rode along the Mirkwood forest until they came near Dol Guldur, where the Necromancer [Sauron] had his abode; and the attacks on Gondor were according to his will...
Eorl turned away westward for fear of the dark shadow and cloud that flowed out from Dol Guldur, and then he rode on within sight of the Anduin river. Many riders looked toward the river, half in fear and half in hope to glimpse from afar the Dwimordene, the perilous land that in legends of their people was said to shine like gold in spring: Lórien.
"But now it seemed shrouded in a gleaming mist and to their dismay the mist passed over the river and flowed over the land before them.
Eorl did not halt. `Ride on!' he commanded. `There is no other way to take. After so long a road shall we be held back from battle by a river-mist?'"
~ Unfinished Tales; III; II (check art by Guillaume Tholly)
But they saw that the white mist was driving back the glooms of Dol Guldur, and soon they passed into it, riding slowly at first and warily; but under its canopy all things were lit with a clear and shadowless light, while to left and right they were guarded as it were by white walls of secrecy:
"`The Lady of the Golden Wood is on our side, it seems,' said Borondir."
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Eorl was not as sure about that as the messenger but trusted in the wisdom of his horse Felaróf:
"`He scents no evil. His heart is high, and his weariness is healed: he strains to be given his head. So be it! For never have I had more need of secrecy and speed.'
Then Felaróf sprang forward, and all the host behind followed like a great wind, but in a strange silence, as if their hooves did not beat upon the ground."
The host rode on, as fresh and eager as on the morning of their setting-out, during that day and the next (obviously thanks to Galadriel). At dawn of the third day they rose from rest and the mist was gone, and they saw that they were far out in the open lands.
A crossing of the river was near and "they had come there at a speed beyond hope". The Éothéod arrived in the nick of time to rescue Gondor's army and defeat their foes (art by JB Casacop).
The intervention by Galadriel both saved Gondor and ensured the foundation of Rohan, for in gratitude (and wisdom) the Steward gave Gondor's northern territory to Eorl. There the Éothéod settled, soon known as the Eorlingas or the Rohirrim, and held it until the LotR.
To better understand Gandalf please allow me to expand on the question regarding the existence of a God in the LOTR universe. You must consider that J.R.R. Tolkien was a devout Catholic WHILE recognizing how sacred the Fae Folk are for example, he honoured them.
"Eru lluvatar was transcendent, completely outside of and beyond the world. He first created a group of angelic beings, called in Elvish the "Ainur," and these holy spirits were co-actors in the creation of Arda through a holy music and chanting called the "Music of the Ainur.!
He is also known as "the All-Powerful" and he alone could create independent life, or reality, using the "Flame Imperishable".
The next thing he fashioned was Ea, the
"World and All That Is", and Ea was in the Void (or "the Outside" as it was sometimes called. He then gave the Ainur the option to go into Eä and fashion it as they will. The Greatest Ainur who chose to do so were called the Valar, and they controlled the shaping of Arda. [...]
The Valar were accompanied by the Maiar, the lesser Ainur. Elves and mankind, however, came directly from Ilúvatar's thoughts, and are referred to in The Silmarillion as the "First" and
"Second" Children of Ilúvatar (or Eruhini), respectively."
The Wizards (Saruman the White, Gandalf the Grey, and others) are actually Maiar, so they are not "sorcerers" who cast spells, they are more similar to actual angels. Remember what Gandalf told the Balrog in The Fellowship of the Ring: "I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass! The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn." He's telling the Balrog that he is a servant of God, wielder of divine light.
The reason why it is done this way (having wizards with limited powers inspire and guide the battles against the Enemy) is because in past conflicts, when the Valar did intervene directly, there was massive destruction to the World, with entire continents disappearing under the sea. So this time they decided to have a more... indirect approach.
Hopefully I've managed to give you a better idea of the lore behind, avoiding any spoilers. Can't wait for The Return of the King!
Dawn after Eowyn is turned down by Aragorn: "The dwarf is single..." #dies
THREE parts!? Don't you even make me, Dawn Marie! Don't even.
17:06 "Not Aragorn, though". Savage
“Fell beasts” isn’t really a name. “Fell” is just an adjective meaning fierce or cruel and of course, beast is beast. Tolkien also just says “winged creatures”.
Denethor like Saruman had one of the Palantir and used it to communicate with Saruman and as a remote viewing tool to see things far away. Certainly up to the time of Bilbo finding Gollum's ring in his quest to the Lonely Mountain with the Dwarves. Which led to the killing of the Last Dragon Smaug and the battle of the 5 Armies when Men, Dwarves and Elves fought as allies alongside each other; against Sauron's Orcs from the North and from the Misty mountains. This is the story of the Hobbit which is Bilbo's history of those events. What Denethor and Saruman did not know to begin with was that Sauron had one or more and that anyone with a stronger mind could alter what others saw with it or infiltrate their minds. Over decades Sauron used it to spy on them, then having won battles with the knowledge gained he set them up with breadcrumbs discovered on the field of battle to set Saruman and Denethor against each other and to try to split Rohan from Gondor. He then revealed himself in turn to each. Corrupting Saruman and cowing Denthor by showing him a magnified display of his own forces. He could also as with Pippin get into their heads and thus make them paranoid. That was why Gandalf knowing some of the Palantir were unaccounted for, warned against the use of the them.
Funny thing is they were created by Fëanor and if used properly it’s something even Sauron cannot contend with
"The dwarf's single." You had me falling outta my chair with that one, Dawn! This is the best reaction video, yet.
“No matter what comes through that gate, you will stand your ground!” In the theatrical cut, after the armored trolls come through, it cuts to Gandalf who shouts “Run!”
So no matter what-except that!
They don't explain that Denethor had been using a seeing Stone like Saruman was, and was being shown only the very worst things by Sauron - Sauron couldn't control Denethor because his will was too strong but he COULD deceive Denethor, that's why he was despairing so badly
the shrieks of the Nazgul are an effect called the Black Breath which instills fear & terror in anyone who hears it so it's very demoralizing to the enemy.
Seeing and feeling the power of the Rohirrim charge in theaters, was one of the most epic and intense moments in cinematic history. Chills forever...
Billy Boyd uses his lovely voice as singer in the band Beecake. Pretty good stuff.
Sorry to have to say, Dawn Marie, that Gimli, the dwarf in TLOTR, is actually played by a 6' 1" Welshman, name of John Rhys-Davies.
I know, i know...
And TLOTR was filmed entirely in New Zealand.
There is this, though:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Boyd_(actor)
Go, Scotland !!!
You, by the way, have the prettiest accent in the world.
Not just Scottish, but Glaswegian.
Elves being immortal, and in a sense more spiritual than humans, Legolas does not fear the dead.
Wow loved your reaction. Can’t wait till part 3!!! Get yourself a box of tissues ready and maybe some waterproof mascara 😂❤
That shot you ended it on? Beautifully cruel.
That's not simply a spider. That's Shelob, mother of all spiders.
Also, don't worry. Those aren't actually elephants. They're oliphants.
Or Mûmakil, which is what the Haradrim called their war-elephants. Vicious beasts!
the rohan cavalry charge - a moment that always gives me goosebumps!death!!
13:37 Cameo of director Peter Jackson playing a soldier getting killed by Legolas
The spider in the movie was called Shelob and that's what Gollem meant when he said 'She could do it' in the end of part 2. And the creatures that the Nazgul wer're riding on were creatures from an older world whose kind, still lingering in forgotten mountains cold under the moon, outlived it's time and there in a hideous eagle's nest hatched this last untimely brood, bent on evil. And Sauron took it and raised it on wild flesh until it was greater than all other things that fly, and he gave it to his servant to serve as his steed.
Faramir's Father doesnt want faramir's death.. He is desperate and he is lost his mind.. But if you look carefully at 3:13 you will see that when orcs shout their arrows, denethor is pouring red liquid out of his mouth ( reference for blood ).. After that scene, he realized what he did..
the Phial of Galadriel has a very long & complex past that's at the center of all history on Middle Earth. a long time ago before there even were Ages Valinor was lit by two very special Trees, that actually glowed, waxing & waning opposite each other; one in gold & the other silver. an Elven craftsman named Feanor made 3 fabulous gems called the Silmarils that captured the light of the Trees. Morgoth hated the Trees & eventually found a way to destroy them using another giant spider, an ancestor of Shelob named Ungoliant who sucked the sap from them so the only remnant of the holy Light was in the Silmarils. now everybody coveted them, even Morgoth & the Valar. whole wars were fought over them; for a while Morgoth had them & wore them in a crown. eventually they were wrested from Morgoth & back into the hands of Elves. 2 were lost, one in the sea & another in a volcano. the third came into custody of a half-Elf named Earendil who sailed to Valinor to give it to the Valar. they took the last Silmaril, turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Earendil as its keeper & guardian. the liquid in Galadriel's phial contains the last of the Light of the Trees coming from the star Earendil. very powerful stuff with a very ancient history.
Earendil's ship with the Silmaril on his brow is Middle-Earth's explanation for the planet Venus.
@@rikk319 is that canonical?
@@scalefree It is...in the Silmarillion.
@@rikk319 oh the Venus bit? Huh, OK.
"The Dwarf's single" Line of the video!!
Since the movie doesn't ever show Young Denethor, viewers don't realize that denethor was a good man at one time.
His only flaw was that he thought too highly of himself. He thought that he could look into the palantir orb, but when he did so he let Sauron in and sauron bent his mind, sort of similar to how Saruman had bent the mind of King Theoden.
It also doesn't make it clear that Sauron tried to make Denethor join him like he did with Saruman, but Denethor did not give in. It still drove him mad with despair, but he never surrendered.
@@scottdean2199 In that way at least Denethor, a mortal Man, had greater willpower and strength of character than a Maiar. That's actually incredibly impressive.
@@1dalea yes. He also comes from a powerful lineage, his father wasn’t lightly named after Echthelion! And his children are half Numenorean thanks to the mother named Finduilas, after the famous elven maiden I believe was the lover of Turin! ❤️
"Maybe they like it in there" - Yeah, it's cozy. XD
The Siege of Minas Tirith was inspired by the 2nd Siege of Vienna in 1683. The Ottoman Turks were besieging Vienna, Austria and called upon their allies in the Catholic League, led by the Kingdom of Poland.
6000 Rohirrim vs. 300,000 Orks.
The Battle of Vienna had half as many Turks, but 18,000 cavalry charging down a hill at the Ottoman army. 3 times larger than what we see on the screen. At the head of the army was 3000 heavy cavalry, the famed Polish Winged Hussars (que Sabaton)
There is a theory that Denethor was slowly poisoning himself while eating. The acidic tomatoes were leaching the lead from the pewter plates, and he was slowly going mad from the lead poisoning. Losing Boromir was the final straw.
BAHAHAHAH 'Look how big it is!" that's hysterical
For those unfamiliar with the books, Denethor had one of the Palantirs, and Sauron had corrupted him with false visions and enslaved his mind in a way similar to the way he influenced and corrupted Saruman. When Denethor tells Gandalf that "Gondor is mine." that was pretty much Sauron talking.
That flippin' spider is Shelob, one of the descendants of Ungoliant, and that is no small terror.
In the first scene with Denethor in the book, he says that he must only let go of taking charge if someone of the old King's line comes back.
Minas Tirith had already sent the women and children out and called in whatever reinforcements they could.
@@JFrazer4303 That's because that's his roll as Steward, but when Aragorn looks as though he may return he resists the idea.
9:30 The question that always occurs to me at this point is "If there are that many skulls, where are the rest of the bones? Was this haunted pass once the home of a race of disembodied, floating heads?"
It's a well known fantasy-trope that all dwarves are Scottish 😃
The Ride of the Rohirrim.... I will never not get chills watching that scene.
Love watching this with you. Waiting for each new video feels like waiting for the year in the cinema when these first came out! 🤠🙏
Ah you're getting there already. ROTK deserved those 11 Oscars indeed.
Those towers are called, not surprisingly, siege towers.
At Helm’s Deep, 300 Rohirrim faced 10,000 Uruk-hai. Here 6000 Rohirrim face 100,000 Haradrim (Southerners), Easterlings, and orcs. 20 times as many good guys vs. 10 times as many bad guys. Their odds were actually twice as good as at Helm’s Deep (though no trees came to help).
7:46 `Assault tower´, a medieval war machine which transport troops during sieges.
The charge of the Rhohirrim (Rohan) was inspired by The Charge of the Light Brigade by Lord Alfred Tennyson. It's a poem about a doomed British cavalry unit in the Crimean War. They are ordered to charge into a valley where they are vastly outnumbered and susceptible to cannon fire from all angles. In short, they know they are going to die. But they charge in anyway.
The Rhohirrim are exhausted from riding day and night, and tremendously outnumbered. Theoden thinks this is the end of not just his line, but of all of his people. But it is the right thing to do. So he calls them on:
Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden! spear shall be shaken, shield shall be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now, ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending!
Death!
Death!
Forth Eorlingas!
(the sons and daughters of Eorl the Young, who long ago answered Gondor's call for aid in much the same way, and in the King of Gondor's gratitude, were awarded their lands so that they would have a home for their people forever)
It is one of the most stirring moments ever in cinema. And it was Peter Jackson's favorite as well. He once joked that he made these movies just so he could make this scene.
I have seen these movies dozens of times, and it brings a tear to my eye. Every. Damn. Time.
More likely it's based on the charge of the Polish Winged Hussars at the battle of Vienna, because they broke the Ottoman lines and saved the city. The Charge of the Light Brigade was a smaller force, and was resoundingly defeated.
@@rikk319 Perhaps to some extent. However, the entire point was that Theoden WAS tremendously outnumbered. IIRC it was 6,000 cavalry against 200,000 orcs plus trolls, Haradrim, etc. So Theoden was all but certain that they were going to die.
The 3k Winged Hussars were part of an 18k cavalry force and something like 90k total forces against the 150k of the opposition. While the Winged Hussars were an awesome and legendary fighting force, I don't think it's equivalent to the desperate circumstances at Pelennor.
Also, this is the nerdiest conversation I have had all week. Thanks for that.
@@nineradvocate Not a problem. We nerds have to have something to pass our time :D
I read somewhere that the Morgul army was around 25,000, but then Tolkien was never fully clear on it, unless he mentioned it in one of his letters. In the books, with the Gondorians coming from Pelargir and the vassal fiefs with Aragorn, it was a long-fought battle even with the Rohirrim arriving to prevent the Witch-King's forces from entering the city.
23:34 "That's what she said"
2:59 For all the Balrogs, orcs, and Nazgul, the most horrifying thing in the whole film trilogy somehow is the way Denethor eats tomatoes!
The oliphaunts are really just "normal" animals. Peaceful, grass-eaters, like regular elephants, under usual circumstances. But these have been trained and goaded into war.
What the movie did not show is that the "orb" Saruman and Sauron use to talk is one of three... Denethor had the third. He used it and like Saruman he got caught and corrupted my Sauron. He lost his... goodness and became the jerk we see now.
Enjoyed you reaction looking forward to part 3.
I don't think he lost his goodness so much as was driven mad with despair. Unlike Saruman, Denethor did not surrender and join Sauron, but the horrors and massive armies Sauron continually showed him made Denethor lose all hope. He was not as mean in the books so much as nihilistic.
The tower things were real things in the day called "siege towers." They us them, the catapults, and trebuchets appropriately in this movie. All part of siege warfare back in the day.
The Nazgul can fight but their main weapon is fear. Not many can withstand the fear.
Skulls everywhere... thousands of them! Ya gotta wonder, where the hell did they stash all the other bones?!
It's a ridiculous scene. In the book, there were maybe a few thousand oathbreakers ... not millions of them. This kind of overkill wasn't needed - it's more Indiana Jones than Tolkien.
The giant spider's name is Shelob.
I like how you're making the Lord of the Rings fans relive the wait they felt between each movie on release by releasing your sections days apart.
The only weapon the men of the mountain possess is terror. People simply die of fear when confronted with them. I can imagine doing that myself if I saw a host of armed ghosts coming at me.
"Does he not get cold?"
That close to Mordor? Not very likely 😆
Gollum is only about as strong as a Hobbit. Strong enough to injure people, though, so he is a danger like anyone so treacherous could be.
One stark difference between Denethor of Gondor and Theoden of Rohan is that Denethor sent his men into battle, while Theoden LED his men into battle.
C'mon Part 3 of movie Number III! These movies get better and better as they go. You'll see. Then you will want to go to New Zealand and see all these places for yourself.
13:36 The guy shot by the arrow was Peter Jackson - the director of LOTR.
You’re such a tease! LOL! I really enjoy watching with you.
Looking forward to the next bit.
I’ve seen a lot of people be critical of the Rohirrim deciding to form a cavalry charge against the Mumakil (elephants). But people severely underestimate the actual power a coordinated cavalry charge has. A charge like that is devastating.
"Look how big it is!" I snorted coffee at that...
What a cliff hanger ending dawn marie hahahaah
I’ve always been a fan of that one member of the Rohirrim at 23:02. He’s such a badass. He’s so psyched to mow down some Orcs, does not give a fuuuck that he’ll likely die.
Gandalf is Maia (Spirit) named Olorin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will and individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf and lived among them whilst they were unknowing and he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar
However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) and the other Istari (the order sent around the same time and of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is and a student of the Vala by the name Nienna and Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being and Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” and basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife and sadness and longing.
Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea Arien is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon.
Dang I want part 3 now!!!!
"The dwarf is single" lmfao
Damn it! I thought this was the last one. The suspense is killing me!
P.S. Bloody hell. You sure get some weird comments on your videos.
When the video starts with "Look how BIG it is!"" lol
Awesome reaction. ♥
13:38 That is the director of the three films, Peter Jackson, getting an arrow for his troubles. 🏹😂 1st class cameo. ♥
4:59 Dwarves too have war against isterlings