What We Know About India's Failed Lunar Landing
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Chandrayaan 2 was a highly ambitious mission for ISRO, and while the orbiter is working the lander failed during the last few moments before touch down. Based on the handful of public statements, and images from mission control it looks like braking from orbital velocity worked correctly, but the transition to fine control for descent may have resulted in a tumbling spacecraft which impacted the surface at about 100m/sec. However I hope more information comes along soon.
Cees Bassa's tweets with the radiotelescope trace can be found here:
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Be proud 🇮🇳 India. Cheers from your friends in Canada 🇨🇦
انڈیا کا خلائی مشن: ’انڈین وزیر اعظم کی موجودگی چندریان 2 مشن کے لیے برا شگون‘
Thank u Sir .
@Eddie Spagetti 😂😂😂😂😂😂
❤️
Love Canada 🍁 sir
Remember .. US, Russia and China also had failures in space programs including human loss ..SO . Don't Give Up India ... they'll get there next time ... Full support from Indonesia (y)
@@Namoari941 our budget is 20 times less than those that's what where we are different.....and yes if u made image about India from ur media then no one can help u ......China too has poverty but media shows all the rich sides......likewise India has negative sides but that's what world media is interested
n L go and chk in rural China u will know what poverty is
America didn't have that many
Thanks for good wish...
@@Namoari941 people like you exist lol
Better to try and fail than fail to try.
@Super Putin poor Pakistan has 40 million people pooping on streets! Haha ruppee is touching skies and advicing us on toilets? India covered 92% sanitation cover already but ur brainwashed by ur terrorists media hahaha poor pigs
@Super Putin pkmkb
@Eddie Spagetti propaganda at its best!
@Super Putin muje kbhi smj nhi aya , etni begerti , bdhurmti ,jlalt ke bad bi ye hijro ki dat kese nikal lete ho.
koe or qom hoti to ab tk dub mrti !!
American lat marte he to kbhi china, or to or ab Biradr bhi lat deta hi rhta he .
le de ak NGO typ OIC ti jha tum bcche hue te.
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ab vo sirf Oh i see tk hi khti he.
ada mulk buna lota liye hi doti se kam chlta he ,pani pine ko nhi to doyega kya
maybe it is better to divert the resources to ending climate change than to fail our entire species with the hubris of the middle class.
Good luck India from Brazil at least you can try unlike us ಥ‿ಥ
Edit : I've never had more than 30 likes , Thanks
Haha that's cute, we'll do it for you 🤗
You teach us to be world class soccer players, we will teach you the space.
@@SantanuProductions we have one of the best location to space launch , but not the technology , a true collaboration will be good to both sides
Brazil Brazil song is among the most famous songs in India.
Mucho Gracias
Honestly, this was heart breaking to watch. For a country that has accelerated its space program primarily in the last 10 years this was more of a win than a loss. But watching their cheers turn into puzzled faces of disbelief was difficult.
What the U.S. folks tend to forget, or weren't even alive for, was how many, many failures we went through before getting anything right. India is a country full of super smart people. Just give them time. And they'll be landing on that hunk of green cheese before you know it.
It's ok brother critisism and mockery only makes us more United and stronger, we launched chandrayan 3 last week and we won't quit
dude, he's saying good words about our program.
@@SurajGupta_3D You didn't understand what he's saying.
@@goodvibes6715 he was speaking honestly good and encouraging stuff about us Indians I get it, I am just stating how the world specially western media sees us and mocks us and how we tend to prove them wrong everytime
@@goodvibes6715 so may you didn't understood what I said brother
In science there is no word called failure. It's trying trying and trying
Concerning economic viability, this is a failure
@@citizenxuniverse The mission is almost above 90% success, since the orbiter is pretty much operational for a few years and the lander was failed during fine launching, economically its economical in terms of budget set and spent!
@@citizenxuniverse If people were so concerned about economic viability, there would be no spaceflight at all. The economy is there to support humans, not the other way around.
Well, that, plus making refinements between tries, so that one doesn't try the exact same thing over and over while expecting different outcomes, which is madness. True "failure" is when someone either stops trying, or stops learning from mistakes; either one would be failure. As long as one learns something new from each mistake, and alters one's behavior to compensate, mistakes are the source of all learning and all success.
There certainly is failure in science kid.
The landing failed, but the in-orbit module is still active and at work.
Sure it is
Wonderful I hope they published but if they don't I hope it doesn't turn into a bunch of conspiracy theories.
No
@@sleepywatcher This is ISRO who Capture Mars In his 1st Attempt ND lowest Cost in Just 73 million dollars We did lots of Things so plz if you don't appreciate it then don't comment negative things...
I will be happy to prove you wrong on your above Comment....
@@sleepywatcher plz let me know which track record you are taking about???
Chandrayan-2 mission is not FAILED completely our Orbitor is still working 100% ND it carries 8 payloads which sending data to ISRO.
I want to know That track record.
Keep trying India 🇮🇳
Love from Singapore!
Yeah, keep spending 99% of India's very limited dollar$ on this project, and forget about 500 MILLIONS people still have no toilet, let them poop any where they want
@@Namoari941 Again, a person who doesn't do his/her research.
@C6 Bleed lol 1 billion isn't even 0.0001 %
Thanks man..❤️❤️
@AAA BBB Indians had landed on the Sun and had returned to Earth successfully!!!!
My heart goes out for Indians . Good job keep trying. You live and learn. The opposite winds is not to slow you down but it makes you fly high. From pakistani
Thanku from India🇮🇳🇮🇳
Just for people like you INDIA wishes the best luck for All Times.
Thnks ta ban
What a excellent quote u hv written...Thnx 4 motivating my brother....
We are comes from one root... That means we are brothers and sisters.. love you from India
A very impressive effort from India! I'm really looking forward to future missions!
Thank you brother ☺️
@TOP THINKERS are you high or something ....sun and venus.....really...lol😂
@@OwO-or4ox yaa bro mission Aditya for sun and if mangalyaan 2 is successful then orbiter to Venus ,, gaganyaan for human space travel if it's successful then the Indias personal space station till 2030 ,, do read some articles before doubting someone's knowledge, idiot
@@OwO-or4ox bro please do some research before blabbering bullshit.. Adîtyã yaan and Shukrayaan are the 2 projects which will be to study the sun and the venus respectively...
Thank you 😄
Well done India. You guys came very very close. Good luck next time. Congrats and Love from Pakistan.
Thank you dudee
I know about Pakistanis. One day they will make sense in the world
We need neighbor who are aware of science. Who know the value of failure and success. We don't need appreciation but smart neighbors.
@@rtariyalmaheshwari2463 why cant you say simply THANKS. So arrogant and rude comment from an ordinary man of the poorest country.......
Rizwan Ahmad Good luck with your non-existant “Suparco”
All the best wishes to ISRO`s future missions and prayers that they get contact established with Vikram. Goodluck guys, from Pakistan.
Thanks
PEOPLE R ALMOST GOOD ONLY POLITICIANS MAKING NONSENSE.
@Eddie Spagetti Spaghetti , might. Why would you comment something like that and that too in a disrespectful manner? He was the enlightened one and to some he's Bhagvan bhudha . Show some respect.
@@ZohairRazaa Thanks Bhaijaan
Thanks bruh we need mor ppl like u unlike the toxic ones present in both sides
Some would call this event a failure, others a setback. I predict India will have a lander on the Moon very soon.
@FoxBat it could be true though.
Sleepercell stop watching over exaggerated Tamil movies
Sleepercell, know already 2022, octbr, and your prediction india will have a lander on tnhe moon very soon, still on count down yet?
This comment is gonna age well if we land this time. Less than a month left to go
this comment aged poorly
Was watching the live stream. The director looked like he was about to cry, and I do feel for him. Hopefully, they will try again and again until they get everything right.
The Chairman Dr. K Sivan actually cried while hugging PM Narendra Modi.
@@surendrapdshrivastava2384 yes he got another chance to do a photo op and hugging sivan intentionaly for media bytes.... He is best at it.... I vote for him for this only... Other than this he doesn't know how to run economy..... So I will keep voting till he is best a doing drama till his age permits
@@IMRANAZAM92 Brainwashed angry mullah spotted 😂
Actually chairman broke out in tears.. Still proud of him
@@IMRANAZAM92 go sell some more donkeys to China to feed your country.
Ah Man... so close .
Better luck next time .
Go India !!!
The mission was successful now new field of primordial gas studies aswell as water and isotopes will be opened to researchers around the globe by the orbiter the rover was a technological demonstration so it was mere5% of the plan
@@lordx4641 absolutely correct
400m, we list comms at 400m
I'm shocked by all the positive comments and love! Thank you world, Love from 🇮🇳
Well India is a counter to the growing power that's China, so having a strong India equal a strong ally in the future :'). For me, I support the India, best ally for the 🇻🇳
India is the only country i have ever seen that is so hellbent to do such big things with so little capability, I just saw an old picture of an Indian satellite being pulled by an ox earlier today, no joke, and i have to say its an honor to have you guys around. I was hoping you landed but at the same time, i dont know if anybody ever has on the first shot.
It seemed like your science and math was spot on but one single physical malfunction or mishap in the code brought it all down, to me that shows you know what your doing, unfortunately mistakes still happen.. Maybe next time.
Vatsyayana Wow! Thank you for those motivating comments. Hope we can collaborate more closely as a planet to further human progress! Love from 🇮🇳!
i'm shocked too! WtF?? iKR... they can prob launch a *BOTTLE ROCKET* (maybe) from that "mission control" Lmao... they got some IBM 386 w/ dial up 56kb modem.. give it up India, STOP embarrassing yourselves.
lol as a chinese i wont be expecting the same for me
Just to think that when moon is 384,400km from earth and they failed by 2.1km is utterly heartbreaking. India is very proud of ISRO though!
Moon surface is tricky to land on...we did fine given it is our first try
@forza juventus it's not really completely useless because if we can conquer the moon then it'll make it much more easier for us to research other planets or even send astronauts there.
@forza juventus why should we care whether anyone cares abt moon or not...these are baby steps to bigger and more grander experiments and projects...soft landing on the moon has been achieved by only three countries so far and we could have been fourth...failure rate being 40 percent and ours being an indigenous project...there are a lot of lessons to be learnt for us so tht we can do better in the future...
Pretty much looking forward to what India does next! And NASA's aim to send humans back to the moon by 2024 as well as SpaceX's claim to send humans to Mars around the corner too. Damn it's so exciting!
@Muzaffar Ahmed just shut up nerd
Failure is better than never tried .
Very true, though I wish I would have not tried on my last marriage, instead of finding "failure"
Now they should try housing and schooling all those millions of people.
@allybean did russia nd america schooled all their people before they started space race??...
@@raghavsingla5384 No, but we didn't have people living under sheets.
@allybean where are u from ??where u dont hav bed sheets...
i salute india and their fine work, not easy to land on the moon.
i'm sure they will nail it next try.
O god this mission was to land on moons South Pole where no one has attempted! Not on moons easy surface
@Revealer86 G I mean to say that this Chandrayan 2 mission is difficult Because its target was to soft land on moons South Pole, where no any other country has dared to go!!
Lucky Irvin, you say it isn't easy landing on the moon how would you know nobody's ever landed on the moon or are you one of those guys that actually drinks the NASA Kool-Aid...lol.
@@polara01 riiight, and you think the moon is flat. Considering you could see the rockets take off, see the flying off, the live broadcasts, the planned speech for Apollo 11 failing, all the systems and ships, resources, and all that poured into making shit that actually works. And that in 69 it was practically impossible, even more expensive, and easy to disprove to fake the landing on a stage. Using things they didnt know about the moon back then to fake the landing on the moon.
People have working computers from the Apollo missions, they have all the programming that's required to do it. And you can *see* it.
Sorry buddy, you're the one drinking the Kool-aid. Specifically the one people looking for some ungodly complex grand conspiracy where it doesnt exist and making a big deal out of it kind.
The biggest thing NASA has covered up (for admittedly good reason) was the plan to nuke the moon to brag about the biggest dicks before they decided on just landing on it first.
Do you support their cast system which denigrates the poor to "untouchables", too??
Kudos from Israel, Best of luck next time India!
Thanks.....same wishes for israel.
yes.. i heard they got those IBM 386's in "Mission Control?" upgraded to the 56kb *dial-up* uplink!! AWESOME! & *have you seen the dude* they got at Mission Control @7:39 - - he DEF gives you ALL the *confidence* in the World! go indians!! woohoo punjabies.
We succeeded this time😊
Good Job India, you gave your best, learn, and better luck next time.
Lander is not dead it is still in one piece...
Ya chandrayaan 3 is coming soon
@R ch 🐖
@R ch ha Lekin Pakistan toh pouch gaya......
Chand per nahi hum Indians ke gand per.......😂😂😱
Better borrow China's tracking system instead of using NASA's, which was turned off in the last seconds.
They must’ve forgotten to unclick the retrograde icon during descend so the SAS turns it upside down
That happens to the best of us.
Lmao
Oh so many missions, oh so many failures
that or turned off RCS!
Lol
Mistakes happen. Learn from them and try again. Kudos for trying
John Kesinger ,Thank You Sir..With The Exception Of Your Comment...It Shames Me The Ignorance Of The Human Race and Lack Of Compassion..God Bless You,and Thank You Again ❤️🙏🏻🔭🛰
Actually now it's located and found 500 metres away from actual landing site and ISRO confirmed it had a hard landing but the vikram lander is in one piece and completely intact since rover is inside the lander ISRO is working to establish connection with it. Plz make a video on latest information available
We all make mistakes, but it’s wise to remain humble and try to learn something and improve the next time. I celebrate with India on this accomplishment.
So exciting millions of homeless and no sanitation and everyone's happy about this, people are pathetic.
@Allybean - which country in the world has no poor people ? All progress has been made alongside poverty. If you are so against this, please consider rejecting any invention or progress that has been prioritized over helping the poor. I believe you will then understand and maybe not see progress as disgusting
Holy crap! this has been extremely refreshing. I haven't seen more positive comments on a You Tube video of this kind since..well never. May not be a coincidence that they were all from non US commentors. Oh! No shame India. Amazing to think of what was accomplished during a "failed" mission. Sometimes expectations can get in the way of accomplishments. Good job from Kansas, USA.
Agreed I wish all RUclips comments were this pleasant and mature
Way to offer up a negative comment on your home country whilst also crapping on that same country for their collective negative comments. So, what you're really saying is it's people like you who always make disparaging comments in the YT comments.
Very unfortunate India🇮🇳! You got very close! Better luck next time, we all learn from space endeavours such
as this - whether a successful or a failed landing. Find the problem, and try, try again!
Thanku sir🇮🇳🇮🇳
Landing failed but the overall mission is 95% successful. Respect and better luck next time on landing ISRO.
How about housing and sanitation in their country, do you know how many millions they could house and school.
@@allybean8885 we have all😀, don't b jealous about our progress. We r superpower✌
@@anaysworld3827 🤣🤣 You're kidding right?
@@allybean8885 remember, India is one of hundreds of shitholes on Earth. Your country is another one, get off your high horse :V
@@allybean8885 I think your country done well !!! Attempted landing in 1st attempt
India, don't give up, it's better trying again than giving up
They are not... there are future mission coming.. you can check future iso mission to come.. chandrayan 3 is one of them
Thanks for the kind words, mate!
Good to know there's sensible people like you across the world who're passionate about science and not driven by hate.
@VK dude in not even from india
@VK just supporting people, that's all
@VK and im pretty sure india is trying to improve cities :/
Criticism are welcomed, we need to improve. Hope to see more of you on ISRO.
@@jefferson2310 i agree i do wonder how come one can produce rocket engines and not able to create a aircraft engines!!! personally as an indian i don't think indian armed forces is a battle force, its a political force which takes 20 years to decide between Rafale and F-16.ITS NOT A BATTLE READY ARMED FORCES, WITH 1 2ND HAND AIRCRAFT CARRIER. MAY BE WE HAVE LEFT FIGHTING TO THE PRO'S.
yes you are the SMARTEST guy from India i've seen on here so far! (even though that's NOT saying much..) *congrats!* so *have you seen this guy @**7:39* ??? wtf.
@@LemonChecks what about that guy
@@roope.0823 whatchu mean bro?? did you look at that shiny head man!! lmmfAoffff!!! : D darn dot heads.. hahaha
@@LemonChecks what abt dot heads there following there faith whats hurting u ?
*''Failure is an option here. If things are not failing you are not innovating''*
_Elon Musk_
You learn more from failure/lose, than from success.
Fail down here, so we don't fail up there.
Not sure how much innovation there is landing an unmanned craft on the moon.
@@PapaWheelie1 It's the first time they've done so, with their own tech, and to make it that close with their first moon lander is nothing to sneeze at, hopefully they work out the kinks and try again
That must be why we didn't fail in any aspect in 1969. 1st try, spot on! Go USA! We made it through the most devastating environment imaginable to mankind in a tin can! And we called Earth on a phone with no batteries to power the transmitter!!
small correction- he is India's Prime Minister- PM Narendra Modi. And thank you for the explanation!
nobody cares, one time hype viewer
@@jake_runs_the_world it doesnt hurt to correct someone if he/ she is wrong tho, even tho she is a one time hype viewer then too its okay to correct someone who mistakenly got it wrong.
@@jake_runs_the_world Nobody cares, one time triggered replier.
See how statements like these don't make much sense? Yeah, same for yours.
JFK would say..fix the gd thing...and try again..😐..good luck in the future, India..👍👍
@justin1968 That's right, and why not do it just once, NASA faked 6 moon landings while spending 23 billion dollars to do it. If CNN was covering it, (they didn't exist at the time) I might actually be sceptical about the landings..😂..and thx to NASA we now have fake orgasms..😂😂
@@victorbonilla4634 Moon landings were real they faked footage because they didn't think we could handle seeing alien structures and craft.
@@phenomenalanomaly8503 ok that I tend to agree with you...they probably censored that footage..would be quite hard to fake footage with the tech available at that time. I don't think the astronauts would cooperate with simulated footage. Somebody would have blown the whistle.
@@phenomenalanomaly8503 Got any links?
JFK was a closet gay guy, his butt buddy was named Lem and lived in the White House. The lunar lander was later named Lem.
Way to go India 🇮🇳
You'll get em next time.
Brush it off and try again 💪
ummm.. let's be REALISTiC!!! NO. No. NO!!! they can prob launch a *Bottle Rocket* or 2 from that "mission control" ??? LmFAo.
Love you universe, you will be explored soon by India!💓🇮🇳🤘
Fingers crossed! 🤞
@woof meow 🍆 🖕
Out of 3,84,000kms, lander had travelled 3,83,798 kms. Just missed by 2 kms.
But still orbiter is working well, spotted lander in orbiter camera. Trying to establish communication.
Will never give up. We Indians, will take deadly risks to get survive.
🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳*By an Indian* 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
👍👏
This mission 🚀consisted of the Orbiter 🛰️(with 7-7.5 years of life span) and lander(Vikram) + rover(Pragyan) with 14 days of life span.
Orbiter 🛰️ is orbiting around the moon 🌒 and will keep scanning and sending photos of moon surface for next 7-7.5 years.
Although , ISRO lost contact from lander Vikram but still this mission has achieved it's 95% of it's initial objectives.
Btw , lander has been found using Orbiter and ISRO is still trying to contact with it .
Btw , Soft landing is really a complex task and to land rover on dark side of moon where no country hasn't reached yet was surely a difficult task but ISRO still tried it's best , So ..
Cheer up , There is no failure in Science.
Landing was on the South Pole, not the far side. China has landed on the Far Side
Who says there is no failure in science??? Lol.....
@@johnJohn-it7vh I'm saying it , There is nothing like a Failure in Science and Technologies ! Only two possibility occur -
Either You win and make it a successful mission or You LEARN for next time !
So well said , there is no failure !
@@subodhbahuguna5071 lol....go with either science or philosophy but don't mixed it. It is like mixing fire and water . Science failed and is capable to end one's life and you don't take out another life from refrigerator.
Get your mind right and just don't copy your scientists nor PM👍👍
@@johnJohn-it7vh Is it So hard to get it into your brain ?
It's not bout mixing philosophy with Science ..
We idolise everyone that seems Logical either it's Our Pm or a Janitor !
Science is Not Possible where there is a Failure .. Mind it ! No inventions was created , no theories in the world was proved without failing but Learning for next time ! That's the fact ..
If You think Failure is an Option , You would never get a way to succeed in Science and overcome your problems .. It's not Philosophy but a fact !
You Learn from Failures , mistakes or even punishments . ..
Well done India, I wish the best of luck for the next time, I only wish my country had this much ambition to undertake such projects like this. Go ISRO!
Love from the UK🇬🇧💙🇮🇳
Now chandrayn 3 going to land on moon ❤
Bro Tomorrow (28-08-2023)
Chandrayaan3 Landing in Moon🌚
Proud of be an Indian 🇮🇳 💪🏻
What happened was the probe was flattered by all the people cheering it on and decided to show off by doing a flip.
Eureka.
@Muzaffar Ahmed Pakistani ass is burning
At least it didn't crushed in a studio!
@Muzaffar Ahmed YEP
@@विकाशचौरसिया He's right , don't triggered
Altimeter set to sea-level, not land-level. Gets me everytime.
@Joe Milosch u serious? the OP is being sarcastic
@Joe Milosch if you are a product of the smarter people of india then its gonna have a very bright future indeed
@Joe Milosch "... way smarter than the average American. " reeeally not setting the bar high here...
@@deeperlayer the altimeter or whatever it was, was using a radar to find the height from ground.
@@BiswarupRay well i said radiowaves which is basically radar
Good try India, get up and have another go.
It took Spacex 4 tries just to make orbit
We'll all celebrate when you make it!
D Ket thanks bro love from india
We made it to the orbit in 2008 chandrayaan 1 mission....which finds water on moon
I heard him saying President...
FYI Mr. Modi is the Prime Minister of India.
Everyone makes mistakes
@Heathen Lord that wouldnt have happened in Congress rule 😂😂.
Modi deserves it man....
He just came back from an international tour nd watched the whole climax at ISRO at 2AM!!!
No sleep !!
He's 69
@Heathen Lord I ask u to go on an international tour..... Do business talks
Come back in a 10+hour flight .... Straight away go to ISRO .... Watch the landing until 3AM.... Get disappointed... Nd again address the nation at 8AM in the morning...
Nd remember you are 69 years old and you might be having a pain in your back.😒
Nd people say he doesn't deserve any credit.....
@Heathen Lord it's easy to criticize than to appreciate.
@Heathen Lord am talking about positive criticism 😕
Criticizing with baseless and illogical claims is crapppppp
Despite on-going geopolitics, as a Canadian, I am very proud of these scientists for their achievement and look forward to the scientific community building upon their achievements in the pursuit of space exploration.
@I know Cause I'm BatMan. you are Not a Canadian because you are too stupid our prime minister has the will of the peopl5 behind him ,,,ìts called democracy not dementia
@I know Cause I'm BatMan.
If you think the Canadian pm is a disaster, wait till you get to know about Brazilian president.
@I know Cause I'm BatMan. Not sure what our Prime Minister has to do with my comment or this space launch.
I would maybe respect an informed opinion about our PM, but since you cannot even spell his name, I have reason to believe your opinion is one of ignorance.
@@RiskyNights why did you have to bring in geo-politics in this discussion? Is this because of the sharia law you want to have in Canada?
Thank you....
They successfully landed their equipment on the moon... Just a little too fast.
It is a crash
@@korangudluffyTamilGaming no
@@korangudluffyTamilGaming according to isro it was a hard landing not crash landing and the lander is not destroyed..... They have taken pictures of it and still trying to restore communication with it......
@@sovon9254 right
@@sovon9254 yes I saw the pics it crashed landed side ways and isro is continuing to contact it but it is not working
Be Proud India 🇮🇳u were the only country to get success in Mars mission in its first attempt
They are still trying to do moon landings.
That earns my respect.
⭕ indian scientists should have used Holy Cow Urine instead of Fuel....And without Prayer (Puja) how can they start any mission...? Their 330 million God Must have got Angry on them, that's why this mission failed ⭕
MJ Love the people of 🇮🇳 India are very smart and wise. They will succeed.
Why so jealous from someone's success/failure bruh
@@susheelbunty wtf absolute none sense
From failure to triumph, Chandrayaan 3 defies gravity on July 13, 2023. ISRO's unwavering spirit and resilience shine as they launch towards the moon, inspiring us to dream big and embrace challenges on the path to greatness. Success is not defined by setbacks but by the courage to rise above them. #Chandrayaan3 #Inspiration #Resilience
Thanks for this Scott, as always, I really enjoyed watching. I don't think India has lost any face here as what they have achieved is still amazing when considering their newbe status to space exploration. I take my hat off to all involved.
U r only one positive comment here ...thanks frm india
@@baireddyvenkatramireddy9704 Indians will soon filter good comments out and bring them in top
First Israel, now India. I hope Ireland, Indonesia and Iceland are taking note.
Why them specifically?
@@sr-3734tqp They start with the letter "I".
@@sr-3734tqp I...can't say exactly. I...just had an inkling. I...can't explain it any further.
Japan is next, obviously...
why not Iran, Iraq?
Soo close. But the orbiter is still ok. Next one will make it for sure.
☺️👍👌
Nope xD
Failure is the best teacher !
Better luck next time india !
Nice to see those positive comments from western world, Appreciated more and hope for best for next time..
Actually Narendra Modi is Prime Minister of India not President.
Well, that changes everything...
So?
Skater Boys REEEEEEE
@@danielkelley3700 So, the youtuber is wrong and he corrected him. I mean nit every country is a presidential country.
Putin was prime minister of all the Russias once.
Unfortunate result. They were successful at creating a new crater on the moon though. Gotta look at the positives.
At only 60-100m/s it's not going to create much of a crater, though.
They already did with their first mission - Chandrayaan 1. The satellite threw an impact probe over near the South Pole of the Moon, which is how we were able to prove that Moon indeed has water.
Maybe good salvage for when anyone who gets stranded on the moon... though that's more relevant on mars.
@@JohnnyThund3r They did say they were going to be prospecting for minerals... I guess they have one definite location to find some metallic ores now...
@@Nilguiri that is still pretty fast. Its definitely pancake....
But orbiter is successful... So, Chadrayan 2 is partially successful....
Love Isro
Windows decided it was time to reboot for updates…
In particular, it looked like it was windows seven iirc.
@@uss-dh7909 looked like 8 to me
@@uss-dh7909 more like 96
Clippy: "It seems you are trying to land on the moon. Would you like to help you with that?"
@@uss-dh7909 I doubt they'll use windows for any system other then flight data for viewers, but I might be wrong. Using windows when you're a space agency is just asking for trouble.
Have to say, landing on the moon is hard. I've tried it in a video game (ksp) and ended up failing more than once. Gotta think real life landings are much much harder.
Lots of respect for isro and their work. I hope this doesn't deter them from trying again.
They should be more focused on using toilets instead of pooping in the streets.
Once they solve that issue I think they could tackle space
@@kamikuru5398 :you've been watching too much dumb news, Fyi INDIANS HAVE TOILETS!
Also, they invented the numbers we use in math to this day.
@@kamikuru5398 Well Wait let me send you one video link
@@mikefriedman5635: are you a flat earther? Lol.
Hello 2023, we launched chandrayan-3 last week, you're right failure makes us even more hungry to nail that round cheese
Gives me a deeper appreciation for putting live human being on the moon in the 60s and 70s.
❤️❤️❤️👍👽
Still a tremendous accomplishment. You'll get it done next time, India!
Jayyy Zeee ...yes, amazing that they got so close to a transparent light source.....one where since the 17th century we have been able to regularly see stars through the dark part of the moon...not the darkside.....the dark part.....!
💝
@@igrowtowerspermaculture9055 lol.. man oh man.
Yes amazing that a country where people still shit on the streets almost barely got to the moon just saying been there twice not by choice and it’s vile and dangerous
Yes, we need actual footage of the lander though, not just data and staff reactions.
Will be fascinating to see the pics of the landing site. Just proves space is unforgiving... If RUD occurred, ISRO will do it next time. Not all is lost👍
Thankyou for this support brothers ..
Chandrayaan 2 orbiter will pass over in next 2 days and would try to find the lander in 10x10km area of landing
@@alimohsin697 and chutiye like you will always remain backward. just bring God into everything. dont do any progress yourself and make fun of others.
@@alimohsin697 no clue what the hell yoy just said, but you seem to be pretty damn unaware about how much data the orbiter can give, more than the lander most likely, the "no objective" is false, but i assume you dont understand that. The payload was a secondary goal, but not critical.
Also a god doesnt really play into this, it's likely something most would miss or fail to account for, either on the Engineering or Programig side. And even the crash is still valuable data.
@@alimohsin697 u have such great english skill
And even greater grudge over india i guess.
*I'm not even Indian but I was pissed when that lander lost contact.*
Yup
@@wierdalien1 yes
Same
@@dio66791 I was hurt just like the Bearshii (israel lander)
I was very sad actually. When it comes to extending our presence into the cosmos anyone's failure is everyone's failure.
Actually Russians failed to make it. They kept on changing the dates for completion of the thing
Right
What happens when a country is so humiliated that its people start resorting to believe in conspiracies more that truth?? That country is called Pakistan.....cuz they cant face the truth.
Take a book you dumb, Russia made this decades ago
Rootin'' for India!
Nothing was lost. You gained in experience.
Put it to good use!
The lander tho
I should have said "nothing was in vain" Doh!
Everyone gains in experience from an event like this, and I am sure they will put that knowledge to good use going forward!
jq4t49f3 nothing was lost? Yeah apart from the billions of $ that should've been spent improving the health and education of the millions of Indians who live in abject poverty. Nothing was gained from this bullshit vanity project.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
4:48 Homeboy in the vest does not want to give up on those last few hairs on his head.
He'd look better bald imo. Space Scientists are weird.
Kinda jealous at a man with that much confidence :D
That's normal in India. No one shaves their head bald there for fashion.
7:37 Close up
he had a full head of hair when the launch began!!
The Lander is indigenous not made by Russia. India rejected russian Lander after failed in Russia's Mars mission
This video did mention that, there is no need to repeat what is stated in the video.
Yes we know , he said it in the video 🤷♂️
Our scientists will definitely got sucess in their next mission 👍..proud to be Indian 🇮🇳
Success is not when you land a rover on moon
success is when you made 1billon people(including my whole family) stay awake till 2AM just to watch rover landing.
Success is when a 8 year old start discussing space science and moon missions with her friends.
So yeah rover landing was not successful but isro didn't failed they just burnt a fire in 1000's of Children and youth of country to become a scientist
Wahhh. .excellent brother. .. some mindless people who r making negative comments on our space mission dnt know the value of making efforts ,unnecessarily they r getting entertained by Barking on us...
In a toiletless country when cow safer than wowan, LOL.
@@fortress.1363 Regarding India being toiletless, it is not true. More than 90% of India has toilets. And 90% of India is more than 200% of Pakistan.
Regarding the second point, it is actually quite true to be honest. Cows are safer than women(or any person irrespective of gender) in India. Hey, but atleast they have the right to go to school(right to education) unlike Pakistan.
@@fortress.1363 And in your country toilets like you exist where cows and women pee. Shame!
@@fortress.1363 as if your country is perfect 0 crimes and all are rich.and more than 90%of indians have acces to toilet and rest are from rural or tribal areas
“At least they hit the Moon at a slower speed than Israel’s Beresheet” 👏👏Scott, you are the Best 👏👏Fly Safe
💯💪💪💪💪💪at least they got pretty close
I love how it says "PRINTER" just above the printer at 3:11
Indian moon mission was a big success...do it again
@Unknown Zone Wait what?
That is not the right of landing.
Yep, we're gonna learn a lot. The orbiter orbiting at an altitude of 100 km has a lifespan up to 7 years and the actual lander was designed for just 14 days.
Also the hi resolution camera man. If they lower the orbit they can probably get some 0.1 m/pixel shots, maps like that will be very useful for every space agency in the future! (Especially if the LRO fails)
They have landed the orbiter, the lander is now in the orbit. That explains everything.
@@esphilee you have problem reading and understanding comments or you just chose to be an idiot?
@@Priya-bt3oj yeah I dont understand what they wrote either.
What we learned is that it's not as easy to land on the moon as we thought and maybe we can learn from the data collected to save future astronauts lives
Everybody gangsta till the lander starts flippin.
Everybody flippin til the lander starts gangsta
They don't have to be gangstas cos ganstas don't know shit.
I'm sorry is that black talk?
@@publicmail2 ook ook
@@publicmail2 i only speak in binary thats been translated to english.
My analysis:
There are four sections of propulsion engine inside the Vikram Lander which were supposed to be * turned off* (except one) during rough braking phase/stage of 10 minutes to get deceleration of the speed for Vikram lander. We could compare both these two data of speed with graph (Trajectory Graph) and nominal speed (which was supposed to be 1.6 meters/second for soft landing). But they (propulsion engines) all didn't (probability). Also, there are three decelerations engines. On that note, due to start of decelerations engines and continuously running of propulsions engines, an unbalanced force developed on the Vikram Lander ; and as a result it turns *upsidedown* (kinds of spinning) for some moment. Since the Vikram Lander which has already on high momentum gets abnormalities( or kinds of malfunctions) on the parts transciever and transponder and unable to land safely. But it is for sure that Vikram Lander will not crush or destructions because Moon has low *gravity* which is apprx. 1.6m per sq.second. On all those analysis , we could conclude that this is the reason, Orbiter and Vikram Lander unable to link or communicate the signals.
But lets hope , ISRO has already able to locate the Vikram Lander and trying to send the signals. In fact, NASA also trying to send the signals to Vikram Lander through Orbiter(since orbiter is working properly). We have total 14 days to complete the mission.
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At last, Proud of ISRO !
Failure is the key of successes !!!
Logical analysis. 👍
Wish best of luck to India and Japan on next mission
Just a correction, Modi is Prime Minister, not the President.
Great video Scott!
Yeh indian president is just like crown power in uk.
The real power exists in Prime minister
"Big observation" from the Big Guy
Why did he crash the lander with no survivors?
3:05 "Doing every a president can do to help a spacecraft land on the Moon"
What a diplomatic way of saying "absolutely nothing".
He paid for it. In india ISRO is directly monitored by prime minister's office. and he also sanctioned the next 3 GSLV orders. so no, he is not doing nothing.
Actually in India PM is head of dept. of space.
@@shashanksuman I'm sure he didn't mean it that way. He is just saying he has no contribution in making the probe land, strictly. Come on, have some thick skin.
The commentary was a bit glib for what is an amazing achievement, either way.
@@dbaider9467 the mission was an amazing achievement. The broadcast, not so much.
Well done India, you very nearly succeeded and I am sure you will do better next time. Sadly sometimes things go wrong right at the end as we found out one Christmas some years ago here in the UK with our Mars lander which, like your mission, was so close to being a success story but just failed at the last crucial moment. Good luck with your future missions.
"the moon is hard" ... quite literally :D
Hard cheese
Yarr, she's a harsh mistress, she is.
Trying to compete with others superior to you is also hard
@@angelabender8132 The U.S. failed in 2 of their first 4 attempts to soft land a probe on the moon, and was surprised that first attempt worked, as they only thought it had a 15% chance of success.
Thats what Kennedy said.
I notice they are still using Windows 7, they don't want to chance a forced update and reboot during the mission.
hahaha. should have used a linux box instead.
If they just click on the link I sent them, I can fix it.
So fucking us army uses Windows xp for nuclear weapons
Forced updates are a feature you can completely turn off in windows 10
Wonder if it's licensed or pirated :)))))
Update: the Chandrayan 2 lunar orbiter has located the Vikram lander through thermal imaging, however no communication has yet been established. Loved your video.Thank you from India. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Thank you India from the rest of the world's space nerds.
Muzaffar Ahmed You think you’re being funny, don’t you? I’m here to tell you that everyone thinks you’re nothing.
@Muzaffar Ahmed buy some burnol dude...
@Muzaffar Ahmed You are nothing. You are pathetic. I would love to see you try to create a lunar lander and even attempt to get off the fucking ground. Imbecile. I'm assuming you have an irrational hatred for India? Are you from one of the surrounding countries? Absolutely pathetic; that is what you are. Enjoy your life. It will be miserable if this is your attitude.
@Muzaffar Ahmed so toxic. Who hurt you man?
That mission was so close to a successful completion. You made it to the moon and the orbiter separated successfully with the lander. Perhaps on the next trip, you could pick a safer spot to land just to give you a chance to iron out the landing difficulties, then try the south pole again.
We have started to work on next landing attempt...hopefully in 2020 we will land our lander and rover on south pole of moon.
Every hard work will be rewarded. Hoping for the best.
True 👌👍 thank you for standing with India
OK, thats the point where Neil goes to manual mode and gets the job done.
thrusters hard right with no explanation, and everyone at Huston stopped breathing.
"There were a bunch of boulders at the proposed landing site, so we went shopping for another."
@Ra Vee That's why they put a jet-test pilot in the driver's seat.
Buzz: "1202 alarm" Neil: "Fuck that, we are landing" Buzz: "1202 alarm again" Neil: "Buzz, we're landing!" Houston: "Ignore the 1202 alarms" Neil: "I told you! Now everyone STFU, I'm busy." ... Neil: "Houston, the Eagle has landed" Buzz: "Like a boss!"
Man never set foot on the Moon.
@@frankienorbertsteiner8167 yes they did. Just ask the Russians who were tracking it, and congratulated NASA on the result. If it was fake they would have been all over it. And don't forget they would have had to fake all 6 landings.
"To their credit, they did hit the moon at a lower velocity than the [Israelis]" LOL, well I guess that's one way to look at it.
Why don't people ask why this is so difficult when the USA did it in a tin can in 1969? Shouldn't it be 1,000,000 times easier with computers? Wake up, people.
@@basedbear1605 If Apollo 11 had followed its automated landing program it would have crashed into a crater full of boulders. And that's if the radar data overflow error could have been corrected remotely. It only landed successfully because experienced pilots were controlling it in real-time.
Apollo 12, 13, 14, and 15 all had anomalies which could easily have resulted in failure had there not been trained men on the craft capable of diagnosing and correcting mechanical and computational faults. As we know, in the case of Apollo 13 the fault was so critical that the crew barely survived after having to scrap any possibility of a landing.
@@basedbear1605 Actually, tell you what, I concede, perhaps you are right, moon landing is fake!
And so? Does that change the fact that there are new generation of space explorer, attempting to land on the moon? How does moon landing being faked or not change any of our current situation?
@@HermanVonPetri I think NASA's airbag approach is the best so far if it absolutely has to make it there in one piece.
@@HermanVonPetri That's a very good point.... However, the computer aboard Apollo 11 had less computing power than in high end Samsung refrigerator.
This is the last and latest official update from ISRO : VikramLander has been located by the orbiter of Chandrayaan2, but no communication with it yet.
All possible efforts are being made to establish communication with lander.
I was hoping so much they would successfully land. They work with such a small budget compared to the US, yet they have managed to accomplish so much.
They are efficient, but slow. With a bigger budget one can afford to be fast and wasteful. NASA has achieved so much for man kind that other nations are always playing catch up. So, wastefulness is not too bad.
Pradeep Sahoo India makes use of their budget much better then NASA. NASA can and typically runs the cost + profit model where they spend what it takes to reach a goal.
India however, seems to set a budget and makes their goals happen within that amount.
While NASA’s way can make things happen faster, India (I believe) will be the future of space travel. Their need to build within a much smaller budget prioritizes innovation and effectiveness over just getting it done.
Let’s not forget that until the Apollo missions NASA also crashed a few landers themselves. I hope they make another attempt.
@Pradeep Sahoo: Hehe , its almost like thrusters right? High thrust, low exhaust velocity.
Low thrust, high exhaust velocity.
Being thrust the speed, the exhaust velocity how much they save and the fuel their money.
@@seanjones1346 if India overtakes NASA it will be because they spend more money.
@@seanjones1346 It's also a matter of what type of engineering task you are undertaking. If you are engineering something that has already been accomplished, you don't need to experiment too much with design and rather stick to a fixed budget. Whereas, NASA when developing and operating the Space Shuttle was exploring uncharted territory. That's where you may sink a lot of money if you don't focus on cost-benefit. While lunar landing missions are always a challenge, there are known designs and their pros and cons are already known. So, ISRO has that advantage and can budget better than NASA. I will appreciate ISRO's thriftiness when they get into uncharted territory. I do wish they make one more attempt to land a bigger rover in the near future.
At an altitude of 2kms lunar lander demands $500US in giftcards to unlock computer.
Specifically $250 on two separate green dot cards
InterestingNameHer Also, communications were disrupted by circuit overload due to priority call center scam calls to US.
500 dollars in lootboxes. no refunds
Hahahaha yesssssss
Ohhh this thread I like. ROFLMAO
Fully agree that ISRO's coverage is pants - they always show video of random people sitting around instead of actual pictures of the rocket/spacecraft or useful data displays :( Anyway, hope they have another go and have better luck next time
ISRO don't do coverage..but obviously the contracted pple are bunch of novices on how to properly cover a mission. Spacex nails it every time!
Sadly, ISRO isn't the one doing the coverage but it is the one responsible for the horrible 1990s animation graphics for their lander data rendering. Coverage is handled by India's national broadcaster DD National and let's just say that they too are not the pinnacle of Indian TV today. This situation is not bound to improve anytime soon though. Even the onboard cameras shown in take-off video are nowhere near as good as what modern rockets in the US have. But THAT can change because those cameras can provide real data beneficial to the amazing scientists making it all possible despite all the odds and very little funding
Completely agree with you on that. I wish they would show more relevant telemetry data of the mission and use multiple joined screens a d maybe one screen can show the people and the PM.
Pradeep Sahoo This is a very common false teaching in the TV industry that has even contaminated tutorials for RUclips creators: "Always focus on faces, not the subject of the video". It has ruined thousands upon thousands of programs about anything from feelings to sport, from cooking to science. Showing a lovers face instead of his gentle touch, a strong mans face instead of the weight being lifted, a cooks face instead of the precise cut of his knife or a chemists face instead of the liquid he is mixing.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 You are spot on mate. At least a dedicated portion of the screen should have shown telemetry. They did a piss-poor job. But it wasn't ISRO, it was the national television channel. They don't understand how to shoot space-missions or they underestimate their own citizens to understand the data.
Finally an analysis of Chandrayan 2 that makes some sense
Looking mostly at the doppler.
Engine imbalance , either one of the side engines overthrusting or underthrusting.
This causes a tumble. Thrusters cut out.
Lander recovers after one revolution (about 10 seconds, that's a fast tumble!).
Lander acceleration down is less than gravity+thrusters, so likely only gravity while upside down.
Thrusters re-engage shortly before correct orientation, but deceleration is somewhat less than before incident. (about 1/5th less). Malf thruster switched off?
As lander has just lost 10 seconds of braking time, AND is braking at only 4/5th the rate... It hits the surface at significant speed, about the same time it *should* have entered hover mode.
Impact at... 30-50 m/s? (manley says 100m/s. this sounds bit high but possible.
We should have not a crater but a rather smushed ex-lander. About the same as a car in a highway head-on.
My guess as for root cause... Throttle stuck on only one thruster when transitioning from "rough braking" to landing braking.
Root-root cause, programming error that omitted that one thruster from the transition between braking modes.
Yes...isro did come out with initial report saying that one if the retro rockets went to 100% thrust rather that 70% causing the tumble.
Well reasoned and thought out hypothesis. Like Scott said, it would be interesting to get some footage of the lander to potentially figure out what the condition of the craft is in and how it "landed" and figure out what was the cause. But, rocket engines are complicated and this required fine control of the output. It would be very easy for a misfire to occur at that phase that just left the lander unable to recover in time. Just happened at the worst time possible.
Damn bro, are you an engineer??
@Justin McCoy Why should i "shut the hell up"? Just because reading actual intelligent postings give you a headache?
@@ianPedlar Bad TV Broadcasting
"the moon is hard" -Scott manley 2019
that's why astronaughts wanna go there :P
Yeah like my schlong
It's all about our beloved Prime Minister....... Our PM has is barely standard 10 pass....
Apparently the Chandrayaan orbiter has spotted Vikram using thermal imaging. Latest news. The image has not been released yet.
Can't wait to see those crystal clear images of the lunar surface, showing the crash site 🙄
@Your Nightmare Great. I can't wait to see the hd video and images of the Moon.
axton ,Thats What I Just Read..No Photo and Or Video As Of Yet,and Still No Contact
Experiments fail sometimes. They learned from their mistakes and are helping mankind's mission of space exploration
It’s rocket science, things happen. You learn from them and press on. Every rocket program has bad days.
Yep. Elon Musk had his bad days too.
brown noser.
Or perhaps 3rd world or underdeveloped nations struggling with extreme socio-economic hardship causing millions of it's citizens to be living in slum-like conditions due to crippling poverty and depravity... _shouldn't_ be trying to recklessly fund it's own space program.
@@sam7748 LMAO. I know, right?
@@duncanhw Pssh, yeah, right.
This sucks, and I feel bad for them. ISRO put so many years and so much effort into the mission, only to have the last part of it fail. But like Scott says in the video, they still have the orbiter, which has most of the experiments and it's probably where most of the money went. So the mission hasn't failed, it's just partially successful.
Yes but the industrial sector as a whole in India isnt developed yet. There is a lack of technological know how at so many levels. ISRO has to get it done all by themselves and even then they have to compromise on lot of things because of funding.
The Indian space program has come a long way in a short time, especially considering their lack of funding.
Yup...
It's not a complete failure, lots of data collected for their first attempt. They got further than the Russians ever did after quite a few tries.
I suspect we will be hearing more from them in the future. Would have been really cool to get data and photos from the southern pole... but I guess we'll just have to wait til next go-around.
Even a failed lander test isn't a scientific failure when no crew was at risk. We don't get as much scientific info from the crash as we would from a successful landing, but it still produces useful data.
It's like when you forget solar panels during manoeuvres and lose power and your vehicle tumbles in KSP.
This is KSP with real money.
Great work from the indians! I got much respect for their work. And isn`t it remarkablee that they did the whole project for the cost of one NASA animation showing how NASA imagines going to the moon in twenty years...
Or if you want, - were there fifty years ago...
Talking of which...
Would love it, since the indians put on superior cameras on their orbiter, which is 40 miles up, could take photos of the Apollo landing site so there would be some third party independent verification of NASA`s claim...
1. Sure the project was cheep, but it failed. Also labor in India is cheep and there are basically no workers rights.
2. Artemis is happening
3. the fuck are you on about third party verification?
Lo and behold it got destroyed or was destroyed..NASA must have breathed a sigh of relief
the cameras did find the landing spots and tire marks and infact the flag waving in the high breeze 😃, looks like it was focused towards somewhere in nevada . just kidding- i have great respect for scientists n engineers from nasa irrespective of the pseudo identities tagged on them with nationalities n race.
@9:41 "...and landed on the surface at very high velocities..." aka "crashed". ;-)
no, two entirely different things. just like an explosion is not the same as "rapid, unscheduled disassembly" xP
Yeah, it's called "lithobraking"
RUD
@@Micsmit_45 Negative. A lander without wheels will always crash when landing at very high velocities. Therefore they are synonymous in this usage. But you get a bozo button for trying to be a jerk.
It's simply an untested deceleration measure, there's no need for concern!
Thanks Scott that was a very good analysis of the event. Coming to the coverage part, even I was wondering the exact same thing when I was watching this event live that night. My source internal to ISRO says "Given the tight, limited budget they work with ISRO doesn't have a dedicated camera crew to cover such events, and seldom (or never) are their other events covered live in the manner this was done. Due to the tremendous interest that got generated in the Indian population and the fact that Indian Prime Minister was witnessing this event, they hired an external camera crew who were only experienced covering social events like marriages, public rallys and such.". The way the coverage was switching between different sections of people in the room clearly proves that fact. I wouldn't definitely blame ISRO here.
WOW the amount of love and respect coming from people all across the globe for India, in this comment section is just heart warming and highly encouraging!
From every Indian, I say THANK YOU!
We shall overcome someday!!😘😘 Respect ISRO
Where are you from sister ?