Is Purchasing and Living With a 200hp Hyper Biker Expensive?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Time Stamps:
0:00: Intro
0:45: Your rides: Suzuki Bandit 1200S, Honda Shadow Aero, 2011 Victory Kingpin 106ci , Royal Enfield Classic 350
3:05: The Harley Davidson Pan America
7:04: No Better Bang for Your Buck (Incredible Royal Enfield Discounts)
9:10: Will we see the end of Indian Motorcycles
12:15: A Solid Workhorse (2010-2014 Kawasaki Versys 650 )
14:07: Bike of the Week ( Kawasaki Z H2 )
Me, my family and extended family are indigenous and some even work with various groups across North America, and brands like Indian don't bother us. For many of us, it's nicer to see people get joy from aspects of our traditional cultures, something people see as cool, respectable, and strong rather than something to ridicule or worse yet -- complete erasure. There are far more pressing issues, I assure you.
It is generally the activists that get platformed by media who tell everyone how offended we all are (on our behalf), but we are more hardy and good-spirited than that. Most would rather people know, love, and cherish in our culture with us than to be treated as people that need to be kept separate and away. It would be different if they were acting in a harmful or disrespectful way but I don't see it as such.
Having said that, Honda is still my favorite but I very much like the Indian Challenger.
It’s white liberals that are the mouthpieces for the outrage.
well said a great comment from a sensible person but being a white person from the U.K. I do feel sad for those that lost out due to our yes our greed !!!
That is interesting hearing your point of view and it seems you have hit the nail on the head by saying that the media and do-gooders have taken it upon themselves, or listened to extremists, to act offended on the groups in question behalf.
When Freddie was talking about how the name of Indian motorcycles might be changed, I could really understand it, although thinking about how youngsters are brain-washed at school, it wouldn't be a surprised if they would stop buying something because the media said so.
Indian motorcycles are a respected classic brand and from my point of view I can't see why people would be a offended.
As card-carrying member of the Comanche Nation, I had never heard of any other Tribal member having been offended by Indian Motorcycles' usage of the word "Indian". The football team you're referring to is the Washington Redskins. The term "Redskin" is categorically offensive. While I personally never had a problem with it, the thought to change it was frankly nice to see as long as the community genuinely supported the change. Don't be woke, be informed.
My last bike was an Indian. I have never heard of any tribes having any trouble with the name of the company or the bikes. Maybe they are and I just missed the story . I can see getting pissed at the name Redskins because that is racist. I think in the Baseball teams case it was more the mascot than the name . Anyway like you said they can always go back to Victory. People know the brand
I owned a 2022 Nightster and I finally go rid of it because of its constant problems. I bought a 2023 Street Bob which is a plain motorcycle without any electronic options to cause problems. As for the comments on Indian Motorcycles, I reside in western North Carolina in the United States and it borders on the Cherokee Reservation. I asked many Indian friends and they like the name and the headdress. If they find no problem then the “woke” people need to shut up. I am glad to see that corporations in the United States are beginning to rid themselves of the “woke” culture.
Many years ago an AA instructor once said motorcyclist usually make better car drivers. Thats a sweeping statement of course. His reasoning was motorcyclists being far more aware of their surroundings....they have to be spatially aware at all times and anticipate what other road users intend to do....There is a lot of truth in ''Sorry Mate l Didn't See You'' because in a great many cases inattentional blindness plays a huge part of why car drivers, pull out in front of other road users including motorcyclists.
Freddie, you can have the same thrust of excitement for even less. Kawasaki have the mighty ZZR1400 available, and you can pick a decent used Suzuki Hayabusa up for half the price of the used H2. Both machines offer utterly stunning performance.
As a vintage moto collector. I always had a new turnkey commuter. In 2012 I bought a new Hayabusa. The fun factor went away after 2 weeks. I felt you don’t ride it. You could just leave it in 3rd gear and drive side streets and highway and not shift. It took away the feeling you get when you ride. After a year at 5k miles traded in for a V7 racer. I get to down shift to pull a hill or mountain. Back to the enjoyment of riding. The Hayabusa is the only bike I don’t miss out of my 40+ Moto collection. With only 2 being less 10 years old or less.
I bet the reason Royal Enfield dropped in price is because 450 water-cooled models are just about to launch
I'd think that the new Triumph 400's are also eating into RE sales
I believe the reductions are because GB Moto, who were the importer, are clearing their stock, as RE are now importing direct. My local dealer is clearing GB moto stock without warranties but is also selling directly in imported models (350 bullet) with warranty at full price.
@@Howard1776yes your correct, but your dealer isn't,all brand new royal Enfield's still come with the full warranty which royal Enfield themselves have to honour! Once Moto GB have sold their stock you won't be able to get any discount on future models.
@@Howard1776sure uk consumer protection laws mean that warranty is always there.
Correct dude @@Howard1776
Regarding the total nonsense around Indian motorcycles; you might as well ban the name BSA because of the connotations with the arms trade! The world has gone absolutely bonkers.
Doesn't help that Freddie may as well be a laughable psy-op at this point.. lol
I was wondering how the Transalp gets away with it.....
🏍 The Mrs said "fix the wobbly table"
My job for the evening!
Harley Davidson sales down 11% in 2023.
Retired expat livjng jn Thailand. When i was in the US had two HD's, a Sportster 48 and Softtail. Now bith disckntinued. The new ones and way ovverpriced.
Now happily riding a RE Continental GT650 and an old Honda CB400.
Ride safe.
Gabriel is spot on about enhancing riding skills to keep us safe. Any advanced rider course is well worth the time and money. Maybe this is something for you to consider Freddie … it would produce great vlog content 😀😀
Gabriel is living in a country with the WORST car drivers that I have encountered in my life.
Swedes are completely oblivious to their surroundings when they get behind the wheel.
I am also a Swedish biker and you really have to think for all the idiots on the road and anticipate EVERY possibility.
I have experienced far more observant and courteous drivers in Africa, Vietnam, Cambodia and India where I also have ridden motorcycles.
I own a ZH2 SE, I predominantly use it out of my home country, where license removal is more of an issue. Im a smooth rider so rear tyres last 5000 miles. The package is amazing, power, handling, presence.
Freddie, not that I want to burst your bubble, however a friend of mine owned an H2 SX and had a Kawasaki service, which cost £1400. Just saying, you might want to check the servicing costs for the supercharger.
The Kawasaki ZH2, have you seen how much the 15000 mile service is, gulp! Was quoted at least £1000! Plus any extra parts! And they wanted it for 2days I used to get about 30 mpg. On mine , but you’re right it is an amazing machine , I still regret selling it 😢
After buying a brand new ktm 1290 and instantly regretting the electronic nightmare on wheels, I got rid and reverted back to my trusty Honda xrv 750 I have had get 13 years, I recently came across moto gb websites and got a brand new royal Enfield interceptor dark £5299 reduced from £6500,and 3years warranty, no point going second hand at these prices and looking forward to going back to basics with little to no electronic nightmares
As a Harley-Davidson owner hearing this doesn't shock me, in the last few weeks two dealerships in the North West have closed down, Manchester and Chester.
Cheers Freddy, I was looking for a ZZR1400 but now my eyes have been opened 👍
Typically, the American worried about the Indian name is not the type of American riding motorcycles, no offense. Also, there are even certain tribes doing petitions to get that football team's name back. Saying it keeps their heritage at least in the limelight. As someone woth Native American heritage, i signed it. Sincerely, an American tired of all the woke whining over stupid stuff that doesn't really matter! That is also why any new models from Indian motorcycles do not have names like that. The only ones are the names they've always had. New models get generic names. Think challenger, pursuit, etc.
Indian motorcycles has more heritage than *Bunny* Karen Pocohontas 'Warren' could dream about..
Gabriel has totally the right mindset for driving motorcycles - it is not about eliminating the risks but to increase the own skills level 🏍️
*In the US, it's $125 a year (only covering the other guy). And $380 a year for full coverage.* Both includes roadside assistance because a flat tire is more likely than a theft on the street.
nice one. Would be nice to include servicing and maintenance of the Z H2 as well. I personally however never meet my heroes. Also found it funny that the last youtube Ad straight after you finished, was an Ad to "increase the length of your manhood" LOL
I was looking at the H2 in a local dealership. It’s unbelievably heavy, beautifully built. Just ordered a little Tuono 660 factory - chalk and cheese compared to the big kwak. The trouble with these hyper bikes is mostly the high running cost because brakes, tyres and chains have to cope with all that mass and velocity and will wear as rapidly as the bike goes. The every day living with it, parking it, pushing it around makes me sweat just imagining it. The dealer told me that the H2 was one bike that was regularly dropped more during manoeuvres than being ridden fast. I think these kind of bikes are itches that must be scratched just to get them out of your system. If you want one, you’ll always regret not owning one if you don’t get one. Not my thing these days, but can’t doubt the attraction.
Good episode Freddie, going from RE 350 to the H2, something for everyone🙂
As part of this it would be good if you could do some channel updates… what’s coming up etc. or just general Freddie and Monika updates
Ive got a 97 mint condition blackbird,
A k3 highly tuned gsxr1000k3 and a brand new 24k 2024 ZX10RR ALL tyre munching gas guzzlers, but i love em. 😊
If Indian Motorcycles ever change their name because of the infestation of woke and cancel culture, I will definitely not buy any of Polaris products.
There is absolutely nothing derogatory about the name Indian Motorcycles.
To the contrary, the native American people should embrace this as a celebration of their heritage. FFS it's one of the oldest motorcycle brands in the world.
The Kawasaki Versys is 216kg not 181kg. Else that would make it the same weight as the 350 Royal Enflields!
Hi, another great video...
In respects to the kwaka H2.... The price is good yes...
But look at the relevant prices of a Honda blackbird....
Or even an older Hyabusa.. .. There are some awesome bikes out there.
I actually live in Germany so high speed blasters are usable here in some areas...
In UK........ I honestly don't think you need more than 100 bhp....
The roads and conditions of the roads aren't good enough for a 200bhp monster.
Keep up the awesome stuff mate... All the best from Jase in the Fatherland.
@freddiedobbs I have a 2021 Pan America it has been brilliant and only had one issue the wiring harness was incorrect from the Showa shock to the loom other than that it’s been faultless and a brilliant bike.😊
Freddie, Love the look on your face talking about the ZH2. . .I had a K1600 six cylinder Beemer, and took a daughter’s boyfriend for a ride, and even with fair warning, I hit the throttle in second gear and frankly scared both of us. Him more than me though Hehehe. . .thank God for wheelie control. . .but add 40hp, and cut the weight in about half, and I can’t imagine. . .how does the ZH2 even stay connected to the road, but 5th gear roll on must be memorable and addictive. My Bonnie T120 still impresses when pushed so I prefer the easier ride of the smaller bike.
Maybe 'Indian Motorcycles' themselves could help defuse any tension; produce a nimble 'cow-pony' of a bike, 'adding lightness' by drilling it full of holes & calling it the 'Custer'. : )
Freddie, just to point out that (ex 865 Bonnie and now 1200 Speed Twin) owner. I've always wondered about your fuel economy. Having watched Joe working on your bike I now know why. Both my bikes will comfortably exceed 60mpg, so recalibrate your expectations for when you get it back.
The Kawasaki fuel economy isn't bad, but don't compare it with
Bonnevilles, only your one has been an enigma. Lol
I concur with the lady on Versys 650s I have a 2012 with luggage I've had it for 4 years and travelled in France and Spain on it.
In July this year, I am riding it down to Turkey through 6 countries and on to Cappadocia and Mt Arrarat it's going to be a 7,500 mile round trip.
New tyres, brake pads, coil packs and chain and sprocket set, and I'm off.
Was one of the best bikes I have ever owned, I have moved to a Suzuki Dr650 only because I am getting into more serious adventure riding ( in Australia) and the Versys dosnt cut the mustard in single track situations
@johnnorman7770 great choice, I'm pretty much tarmac only with maybe a few hundred yards down a lane for a camp spot.
There is a 2023 classic 350 in chrome bronze here in Utah that's $3799. They appear to be on sale before the riding season starts. IF I could swing it I would totally purchase this bike.
You can't beat a Kawasaki for excitement or reliability I have Kawasaki versa 1000 SE 2021 ultimate comfort and grin factor my name is josh
Freddie, the first nations of America and Canada are NOT the ones calling for the dropping of the terms relating to their culture.
They did, in fact, call for the name of the NFL team of the Washington Red Skins to be re- instated, and, for the Kansas City Chiefs to retain their name in honour of the first nations.
Hows about every one moves out of London Then everything would be cheap again ??????????????
I know of one H2 owner. His mate told me he’s sick of filling it up! If you open that thing up it drinks petrol, apparently, which does make sense.
The bike I've always fancied is the V7 Moto Guzzi. But buyer beware! A local dealer had one come back for a rear caliper replacement under guarantee, and it's been 4 months sitting in the shop waiting for the part. So long out of action that the dealer has had to buy it back off the owner. A friend tells me 6 months for parts is pretty standard for Guzzi. Not the dealers or the importers fault - it's the factory.
Nothing like riding my Victory to my favorite Freedom Fries joint.
Thirsty_Fox is spot on here. Your commenter referencing the pressures applied to the Red Skins NFL team is incorrect. It did not result in empty stadium seats. The seats emptied after the name change to "Commanders" because the franchise lost lifetime fans of a storied original American Football team. They also lost fans and bled money because of their mismanagement of the handling of players taking a knee during the National Anthem. Indian Motorcycles are not going anywhere and they certainly won't be changing their name. Harley Davidson has more chance of disappearing for various reasons than does Indian.
In 1998 the Polaris snowmobile company began selling Victory motorcycles, meant to compete with Harley Davidson. The Victory brand never caught on with American buyers, and in 2007 Polaris bought the Indian brand, builders of motorcycles since 1901. With that credibility and name recognition, they slowly replaced Victory with Indian, as their motorcycle brand. In 2013, the first Polaris Indians left the showrooms, powered by an all-new V-twin engine, and marked the beginning of the end for the Victory brand. By 2017, it was all over for Victory, as Indian innovated and moved up market.
These superbikes are only as good as your own discipline. I gave up my 1980s Honda VF500 F2 because I had an issue sticking to the speed limit on the way home from work every day. I can’t imagine how fast I would have ridden a ‘Spaceship’.
I love my Triumph Tiger sport 660. I bought mine 2 years ago, I have many adventures. Vegan biker interviewed me for his channel back in November and was on youtube January.
The Kawasaki h2 under 10 grand….but. Would never buy from super bike factory! EVER!
Thanks for the video Freddie, enjoyable as always. Just for your own amusement, try changing your address to Manchester and see the insurance costs.
Nice one, keep it up.
Wouldn't be surprised that the insurance costs would be less for the H2 than a Pan American because the engine size is smaller, even though it appears that they are pretty close to price for 2 year old used.
8:36 on that point Freddie it might be great if you want a new one, but on the reverse side it absolutely kills the second hand market if you have a 12 months old RE so for any poor bugger trying to sell or trade god forbid! It's bad news as their bikes have just been hugely devalued 😮
The motorbike theft capital of UK 😂😂😂😂😂 ... Thanks Freddy for the heads Up ... Nice video btw
Freddy if you want bang for bucks. Suzuki Gsxr750 is banging power and handling is more than anyone could dream of. 😎 living the dream with a 2010 model 😍
My local bike dealership has a second hand meteor 350 for £4,100. Im very tempted to get a brand new one for the summer.
The reason teams and other companies use names like Indian, Braves, Warriors, Chiefs etc, is because they are revered.
They align themselves with those names for the same reason they use Lions, Tigers, and Giants.
The bravery of the Native Americans is LEGENDARY.
The Indian Motocycle is seen as unstoppable for a reason.
Victory is just a ripoff of the name Triumph.
brand new R.E. Classic for 3800 pounds is better than putting thousands into a broken down Bonneville.
Freddie, the rear tire on your bikes last a couple thousand miles. . .My K1600 and I’m sure the Kawasaki would need two or three tires a year. . .at least.
I fancy new hyabusa had a multistrada 9 years my last supers sports mega bike blast
Freddie, answer me this, for a first bike, just for fun, country roads, speed not important, style and character are important, £5k budget, would you get an air cooled Bonneville similar to yours or a bullet/classic 350? Will
Mum I'm famous! I made it onto the Tuesday at Dobbs' podcast! :D
Oh Freddie you’ve got the hyper bike bug! Bad news I’m afraid you won’t get any peace until you get one
Wow, your insurance rates are crazy expensive. I have a 2022 Ducati Diavel and it cost me $140 per year for insurance. I have 4 street bikes, all under 2 years old and I only pay $540 per year (with theft coverage).
It depends on whether you can afford it or not😅. Unfortunately most of us can't ❤.
Expensive insurance for one thing.GP levels of HP require GP levels of maintenance. Outrageous price of parts.
I got a quote online out of interest for a H2. They won't unless it's in a locked garage, so I entered that it was. £3,000 for 6000 miles a year. I'm 58. But live in a town 10 miles north of London and had my Tracer 900 nicked in August but still, insurance is an outrage at the moment .
Beware RE bikes. There are reports on RUclips (check out 'Old School ADV Rider') of very poor engineering standards - worn valve stems at low mileages, exhaust valve heads falling off the stem causing extensive engine damage, oil pump drives with sprockets loose on their shafts.. RE might be spending money on appearances but cutting corners in engineering. These shortcomings will not be detected by reveiwers as they don't have the bikes for long enough.
The problem with offering a new 350 for under 300p pounds, is that now a used one is worth way less. Not great for all those with a 350 who now are looking to upgrade..... Bikes already devalue rapidly, this just adds to it. The price of buying a new model.....
Good luck to anyone stupid enough to take on Polaris with the intention of changing the brand name "INDIAN MOTORCYCLE"... And as for replacing it with their previous brand name Victory is just ridiculous, Polaris waited very patiently in the background for years just watching other companies arguing through the high courts, when all was done and dusted Polaris steped in and sealed an agreement so that they could use the iconic brand name knowing that it would boost their sales with the new Swiss Auto Bullet Proof Indian Flat Track Racer to compete with the likes of HD, Polaris has set the benchmark for others to follow, and have since retrieved the 50s & 60s Indian Flat Track Team name "WRECKING CREW" ..(short version).
Ah my Tuesday is complete.
At around 20:15 you say the cost of insuring the bike is "£228 a month" which is so horrendously high it nearly gave me a heart attack. However, when I looked at the screenshot you showed I'm pretty sure the tickbox is set to "annual", not monthly. 😁
I think you might have scared a bunch of viewers away from buying a SV650! 😂
I ride an ER6F now. I have only had it 2 months however, I have not had any issues! It has done 37k miles and I got it for £2250. Will be keeping this until I can buy a Z800 or Z900 :)
I bet the ER6 will last forever!💪🏼
Almost bought the 2017-19 Z900. At 5'9" it fits like a glove and it doesn't have any electronics other than abs. The 2020 2nd iteration was ergonomically different (higher) with added gadgets. Take your pick. Both are better than the Z800 imo.
This is good info! will defenitly keep an eye out for the Z900@@mrcintheuk4641
Absolutely! Cant wait to do trips and send you photos with a story@@tuesdayatdobbs
@tuesdayatdobbs Cant wait to do some trips and send you some stories !
Good things are never cheap, and cheap things are never good.
Bike Magazine did their annual drag race series and the H2 was beat by the BMW M1000 and the Ducati Panigale. The Ducati won the shoot out because Ducati has optimized the engine mapping individually for each gear. HP may sell engines, but proper tuning and drivability wins the race.
Doesn’t mean a thing. The key thing is on the road and how the supercharger feels when you roll the throttle on. It’s like a huge hand is behind you pushing you forward. Drag races from a standing start are completely irrelevant.
@@clemfandango9534 You are so wrong. A supercharger is not like a hand pushing you forward. The sensation is the opposite because the vehicle is going forward while your body is being held back by physics. You have to pull yourself forward to keep from sliding off the back. When I open the throttle on my Ducati, I push my toes down, I squeeze the tank with my knees, and I pull my upper body forward by pulling on the handlebars. Ducati has the best electronics package and the way they put the power down is unreal. The supercharger is overhyped. Power to the ground is all that matters. This of you who have never experienced it won't understand. There is a good reason why riders are so loyal to their Ducatis, they do perform as advertised.
@@briangc1972 cool story bro.
Try an H2 SX
RE are double in price compared to India so big profit margins even if u take into account import costs . The issue about bigger bikes now is the insurance , these companies are just stating any London postcode rather than taking all safety precautions in. Isn’t about time police started putting decoy bikes to grab these toe rags. My mate videos kids on two scooters riding up to his bike . These riding costs are driving numbers of riders down and consequently manufacturers are moving to smaller bikes . I m starting to feel like a dinosaur having litre plus bikes for 28 years
Kawasaki service costs aren't cheep and I only own a 2022ninja 1000sx major service £650 every 7500 miles £270.00 basic service, dread to think how much they would charge on a turbo charged bike, 2 sets of tyres fitted every year kawasaki dealers charge £920.00, and mine is just a toy not used every day. Motorcycling is not a cheap hobby.
You forgot to mention on the Road charges regarding Royal Enfield.
Moto GB has screwed existing enfield owners with there need to get rid of stock before enfield UK starts, I have 2 enfields but don't want to loose that much on trade in, shame really
One correction, the Indian population is not the ones forcing the name changes, it’s the social engineers using it to divide and conquer a population.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that for a road bike, youre better off with something that you can ride to, say, 85 percent of its capability and still retain two things - a safety margin, and your license. On a 200 hp sportsbike, im never, ever going to explore its potential on a public road. Even my Thruxton 1200 is arguably too good for public roads. (Metaphorically , of course 😂) I need to be doing 100km/hr in 60 km/hr corners to actually make true use of its handling. This seems a waste, let alone a Zh2 as a daily ride.
How about if Polaris move production of Indian motorcycles to India?
very imformative freddiy
You showed the low price of the RE Himalayan 410, but with their new 450 which finally has a bit more power, why would anyone but the older 410 model. It's a shame they didn't stretch it to 500 or 650 or more for the EU and make it a completely different model. I'm sure Himalayan lovers will be keen to upgrade but have they just killed the 410?
If that Pan-American problems is more common than the ones that reached out, that are really bad news for Harley Davidson. I see the more traditional brands coming up with new concepts but Harley seems to always not be successful in their recent endeavours, from the VROD to the new Sportster. Maybe the M8 engine is the exception.
Have Royal Enfield had to drop their prices on the 350 now Triumph have their brand new Speed 400 on the market for under £5k? I think I’d prefer the much more modern Triumph
It’s because the old importer is clearing stock
The individual who previously corresponded with you concerning sports teams adopting names inspired by Native American tribes holds a perspective aligned with a minority postmodern progressive movement. However, the prevailing sentiment among individuals of both European and Native North American heritage is that these names serve as a tribute to proud and resilient people. Importantly, there is no evidence linking these names to negative economic consequences. It is advisable to approach narratives with a critical eye and seek factual foundations before accepting them as truth.
Mate, just buy that Kawi and make a shit ton of videos and let me live vicariously thru you.
Triumph. Parts bin bikes. Thai built, parts sourced wherever. Talking to a dealer locayvre Triumphs.. Their view. Good design. Atrocious build quality. Union Jack's all over their products but very few components sourced from the UK.
Locally
It's a tragedy that we live in such bizarre times that certain very extreme and miserable people choose to believe that naming something in tribute to a fine people is treated so negatively as cultural appropriation, when the exact opposite was the intent...... As for a 200hp bike, well it scares the living daylights out of me just thinking about it! lol 🙂
I have grown to dispise insurance companies 🤨 you can seriously get three different quotes for the same company on compair sites, it's mad 🙄
Agree the ZH2 is a fast bike but the engine has no character. Not that comfy on long journeys when I rode it. Inline 4’s have had their day, only my opinion with now 270 degree parallel twins or V twins, even V4’s or even triples that sound better with T-plane engines. Only inline 4 that sounds good is the Yamaha cross plane big bang engine.
Abrielle such wisdom
Harley Davidson has always been "Harley-Davidson". 1903 to the present, almost all production bikes are tried and true, low revving, long stroke, torque turners. The moment they ventured into the Pan's and new water cooled Sportsters should immediately have sent alarm bells. This is not only foreign to Harley-Davidson but unappealing to their customers... You either want a motorbike, OR, you want a Harley-Davidson. If the later, buy the Harley that Harley has always done... Don't expect cutting edge anything and you should be reasonably satisfied... I love the H2 Kawasaki's and another reason why I love Kawasaki... They dare to go that step further, Kawasaki horses are simply bigger animals, When buying a H2, be sure to have mastered the art of "Zen and the right hand" before you hand your money over 🙂A H2 in the hands of a Zen Master is a dance to behold.
Well done Phill from Norfolk..tinklers best 👌
You can enjoy the Kawasaki's level of performance for less than 10k if you want to. A Suzuki Hayabusa would be virtually as fast. Prices on Autotrader currently start at 3,750 quid. A BMW S1000RR is another strong contender and Autotrader prices start at less than 7k. I think Royal Enfield 350 prices are very expensive for what you get. You're only talking about going to the shops or commuting to your bowls club. You said yourself (in a previous video) the bike would struggle to make 70mph with Monika on the back, so why would anybody want to spend 3 to 4k on it? If Indian have to drop their moniker a good alternative would be "Native" or "Pioneer" or "Western".
.I have a Kawasaki ZH2 2023 model ye ha
That HD is not actively fixing the Panamerica problems tells ask ya need to know. How sad! After a truly riotous intro, straight to malaise & death....
On the pan American..... And people say Chinese bikes are crap 😂😂😂
The Indian name was already controversial when they bought it. They knew what they were doing an unlike a few ball teams, they are invested in keeping the name. As for legal problems? They have done nothing illegal or slanderous. An besides that, who would have legal standing to bring a case, an what are the damages?
Once again Royal Enfield destroy the second hand value of their bikes. A Meteor 350 at £2995 new is worth £2000 when it goes out the door, god help anyone who bought one previously 😮
10:59 so maybe they will go with native American motorcycles 😂
Kawasaki Versys 650 £3 n a half grand, from a dealer, really you cannot go wrong with that...unless the dealer is Kingdom Motorcycles of course! N as for Indian, I'm pretty sure the woke world now recognises native americans as native americans so as not to confuse the woke world with people who live in India who identify as Indians. I have an Indian name on my passport and I AM NOT OFFENDED BY A BRAND NAME PRINTED ON A PETROL TANK!!!
Really surprised to hear that guy's Pan America runs on after its shut off. I didn't think that was possible with fuel injection. 🤔
Indian Motorcycles being a controversial name is the most woke liberal American thing. People should just put a sock in it and get over it. It's nothing racist about a motorcycle brand. What is more controversial is the Harley Davidson, war-crime inspired motorcycle the Fat Boy literally named after Fat Man and Little Boy and it literally celebrates the destruction of two cities and their mostly civilian population and surrender of Imperial Japan.
Can we get any more controversial than that?! There are more pressing matters out there than the name of some company that makes expensive motorcycles that not so many people are interested in?
Fascinating Fat Boy insight- I completely forgot about this. Thank you for sharing🙌🏻
Exactly. What next? No more using the term 'Chinese takeaway' or 'Yorkshire pudding'?
Would you ride a Harley Honky? A Kawasaki Cracker? A Suzuki Casper?