Turkish spectator were so loud every time giving hints to EF, but Navi supporters also gave hints some time like the JL cluth on ancient. The players were fully aware of this they even some time pointing on walls in maps and people shouted giving them hints. This is clearly unfair for both team. Sound proof booths are a must now.
I am gonna c/p my comment from another video about fans: You can turn on any major event video on the youtube and you can hear&feel the crowd. The problem was the crowd is too close to players in this tournament. I don't recall any event played this close to crowd before. Maybe there are examples, I just can't remember any at the moment. Maybe they need to fix that.
Fan situation is weird to deal with because you have sports such as football where certain fans shine lasers in opposing teams players, but at least in football you get to play another match on home turf. Here its messed up cause if the event is in a certain country, the team from that country has a full advantage from fan interference. This is why its necessary to have the full soundproof booths at least when the majority fans team is playing.
@5:05 Wow - sorry br0 - so it is ok for some ROGUE team authority to literally tell everyone one that the breathing guy next to you is dead - even though everyone in the room can see he is clearly breathing and talking and jumping up and down ?!?!?! - reminds me of the Monty Pythons "Bring our your dead". I didn't think Blast was at fault - UNTIL - they said @8:02 "In this case, we have no reason to doubt the initial statement of the Astralis team...". When clearly @8:14 the FACT is that br0 is fine and ready to play. With that statement Blast is admitting to looking away from the facts and violations regarding only one team. So, Blast and ASStralis better work out something to make this right. Really bad for Blast and self-destructive behaviour for ASSstralis. Best wishes.
12:12 playing lan always have fans shouting and giving info... people forget moments like niko facing the wall and actually asking for info from the crowd in their last championship run with stew2k... dunno why its an issue all of a sudden as you said just either get better sound proof stuff or just deal with it . games is the game
It's not the first time Astralis get their own way, despite strict regulations. It does look like there are other teams, and then there is Astralis. So in a way it feels just that they have lost 13:0 to Vitality.
cringe for using a loophole blast created? cringe because blast let it happen? or cringe because in every other pro sports teams and people use loopholes too and no one calling them for scandals? be mad at blast for creating a loophole and then letting astralis use it instead of following up on br0's health. they could have done that and said we think br0 is fine and he has to play. its more cringe that 2 teams in a Grand Final are Crowd Cheating as much as they were in 2024.
so many people mad at astralis for using a ''loophole'' That Blast Created. and that Blast let happen. essentially people should be mad on Blast. and they should call it the Blast Scandal. as a sports competitor that competed in multiple sports i really dont blaime them at all for using a ''loophole'' just like thousands of other people in other sports do when they can. if people want to talk about a scandal. i think people should talk about the Navi - EF Match. and how both teams where crowd cheating. honestly seems to me their turkish fans where dedicated to just doing that. and navi's fans responded to it doing the same.. there should be some terms of getting tickets for theese arena's basicly allowing tournament organisers to kick out anyone for crowd cheating.
Cs2 competition become dirty nowadays 😅 strong smell of interfering politics and business 👉 betting sites .. dunno how they doin the match fixing scheme .. planting apk that can cause lagging , or allowed specific team/player to use assist tool in silence 😅
Usually, I support playing by the rules I agree that Astralis should not have done that. On the other hand, why the fuck rules like this exist in the first place? Why would anyone have to play with dead team after changing roster? I understand if it's for majors or is in the middle of the tournament, but in this case is just bs. The sad part is that those 6 IGLs decided to act like chilldren and instead of pushing to remove such stupid rule just cried about it, like someone did something bad to me so now I want that same thing happen to others instead of creating better environment. Bit disappointing.
@@JohnDoe-tq1js I know, but there it has purpose like for instance in the nba where they have trade dealines so that teams would not aquire good players of bad teams just before or during playoffs. I think it should not happen in any real stage of majors and ongoing tournaments, but as far as I understand changing player before the event start doesn't cause legal nor logistical issues to TOs, which means there are not reason to have such rules.
With the info we have I don't think Blast is at fault - UNTIL - they said "In this case, we have no reason to doubt the initial statement of the Astralis team...". With that statement Blast is admitting to looking away from the facts and violations regarding only one team. This is very damaging to Blast - they must make correct judgement given the fact that br0 is more than capable to play. Yes the rule is bad but this is the rule that other teams have been forced to comply. I agree that this is unfair to the other teams that have been FORCED to play - rule ENFORCED (while not Astralis - no rules for them?). This basically criminalizes Blast. I think It is good that the IGL say/do something impactful though - and I will tell you why. The players/fans have to stand up and make a statement to draw attention to ANY violations and favoritism - once attention is drawn to an issue, then changes will be made and the game will be better. This is very damaging to Asstralis brand - they may not recover. In the early days of pro baseball/football/etc, there were some team owners that tried to "stack the deck" in many different ways but now there are strict rules against those cheats because "Someone" (players/fans/owners/etc) took a stand to change the system. Best wishes.
@@zarrahkat8954 Agree with you on most things and, just to be clear, I think Astralis should be punished, how ever players seeking to punish Astralis does not achieve a thing to overall pro cs environment. I think they should've tried to remove that rule completely having an argument that blast itself does not comply them like they did in this case
@@nojusnaraskevecius6339 Yes, I agree. I do think we need more info to understand everything - maybe there is more to it that would explain some actions.
sure it's always turkish? eternal fire was number #18 they hardly get into any finals or you're confusing them with brazillian fans? Brazillian teams progress further so their fans are usually there. back in LG and SK glory days they were the disruptors.
Fans aided NaVi in finalz. jL just made a lame excuse stating he was lookin at the camera. in 1v3 clutch situation NAVi Crowd was aiding em. Stop blaming EF instead as everyone knows you guys still not digesting how EF came in finalz and busted NAVI in two maps below 10 spawns.
You should eject fans if given reasons. Happens in pro sports all the time
Turkish spectator were so loud every time giving hints to EF, but Navi supporters also gave hints some time like the JL cluth on ancient.
The players were fully aware of this they even some time pointing on walls in maps and people shouted giving them hints.
This is clearly unfair for both team.
Sound proof booths are a must now.
Turkish fans are annoying everywhere, they always buuh und have the least sportmansship possible.
Thanks for the recap. Listen to this on my way to work.
Breaking News !!!!! S1mple has been loaned by Falcons again from NaVi
I am gonna c/p my comment from another video about fans:
You can turn on any major event video on the youtube and you can hear&feel the crowd. The problem was the crowd is too close to players in this tournament. I don't recall any event played this close to crowd before. Maybe there are examples, I just can't remember any at the moment. Maybe they need to fix that.
Fan situation is weird to deal with because you have sports such as football where certain fans shine lasers in opposing teams players, but at least in football you get to play another match on home turf. Here its messed up cause if the event is in a certain country, the team from that country has a full advantage from fan interference. This is why its necessary to have the full soundproof booths at least when the majority fans team is playing.
12:15 build those boxes where the players are in and can't hear the crowd, ez fix.
valve please fix
astralis doing astralis things
@5:05 Wow - sorry br0 - so it is ok for some ROGUE team authority to literally tell everyone one that the breathing guy next to you is dead - even though everyone in the room can see he is clearly breathing and talking and jumping up and down ?!?!?!
- reminds me of the Monty Pythons "Bring our your dead".
I didn't think Blast was at fault - UNTIL - they said @8:02 "In this case, we have no reason to doubt the initial statement of the Astralis team...". When clearly @8:14 the FACT is that br0 is fine and ready to play.
With that statement Blast is admitting to looking away from the facts and violations regarding only one team.
So, Blast and ASStralis better work out something to make this right. Really bad for Blast and self-destructive behaviour for ASSstralis.
Best wishes.
12:12 playing lan always have fans shouting and giving info... people forget moments like niko facing the wall and actually asking for info from the crowd in their last championship run with stew2k... dunno why its an issue all of a sudden
as you said just either get better sound proof stuff or just deal with it . games is the game
My take is Thorin is a loser
S1mple news Just came
It's not the first time Astralis get their own way, despite strict regulations. It does look like there are other teams, and then there is Astralis. So in a way it feels just that they have lost 13:0 to Vitality.
We’re here bro
Also, Astralis so cringe
cringe for using a loophole blast created? cringe because blast let it happen? or cringe because in every other pro sports teams and people use loopholes too and no one calling them for scandals? be mad at blast for creating a loophole and then letting astralis use it instead of following up on br0's health. they could have done that and said we think br0 is fine and he has to play.
its more cringe that 2 teams in a Grand Final are Crowd Cheating as much as they were in 2024.
so many people mad at astralis for using a ''loophole'' That Blast Created. and that Blast let happen. essentially people should be mad on Blast. and they should call it the Blast Scandal.
as a sports competitor that competed in multiple sports i really dont blaime them at all for using a ''loophole'' just like thousands of other people in other sports do when they can.
if people want to talk about a scandal. i think people should talk about the Navi - EF Match. and how both teams where crowd cheating.
honestly seems to me their turkish fans where dedicated to just doing that. and navi's fans responded to it doing the same..
there should be some terms of getting tickets for theese arena's basicly allowing tournament organisers to kick out anyone for crowd cheating.
2:48 - why was Jimi referred as a Dane in the article
Thumbnail is goofy though!
W captins players have the power jot blast.. the players should not show up for first round
. See who holds the power!!
-snappi +bombla, niko and s1mple just fine. Weird but probably good.
ah yes boombla and simple in the same team will probably turn out really well
Dupreeh set to defeat NAVI😂
We all know how it went!
Cs2 competition become dirty nowadays 😅 strong smell of interfering politics and business 👉 betting sites .. dunno how they doin the match fixing scheme .. planting apk that can cause lagging , or allowed specific team/player to use assist tool in silence 😅
S1mple to falcons. Here we go. The Ukrainian major champion joins falcons on a 3 month loan. I am Fabrizio Br0mano
turks not being pridefully delusional challenge: impossible
JL TOP1 !!!!
Usually, I support playing by the rules I agree that Astralis should not have done that. On the other hand, why the fuck rules like this exist in the first place? Why would anyone have to play with dead team after changing roster? I understand if it's for majors or is in the middle of the tournament, but in this case is just bs. The sad part is that those 6 IGLs decided to act like chilldren and instead of pushing to remove such stupid rule just cried about it, like someone did something bad to me so now I want that same thing happen to others instead of creating better environment. Bit disappointing.
It’s just like trade deadlines and transfer windows in sports.
@@JohnDoe-tq1js I know, but there it has purpose like for instance in the nba where they have trade dealines so that teams would not aquire good players of bad teams just before or during playoffs. I think it should not happen in any real stage of majors and ongoing tournaments, but as far as I understand changing player before the event start doesn't cause legal nor logistical issues to TOs, which means there are not reason to have such rules.
With the info we have I don't think Blast is at fault - UNTIL - they said "In this case, we have no reason to doubt the initial statement of the Astralis team...". With that statement Blast is admitting to looking away from the facts and violations regarding only one team. This is very damaging to Blast - they must make correct judgement given the fact that br0 is more than capable to play.
Yes the rule is bad but this is the rule that other teams have been forced to comply. I agree that this is unfair to the other teams that have been FORCED to play - rule ENFORCED (while not Astralis - no rules for them?). This basically criminalizes Blast.
I think It is good that the IGL say/do something impactful though - and I will tell you why. The players/fans have to stand up and make a statement to draw attention to ANY violations and favoritism - once attention is drawn to an issue, then changes will be made and the game will be better. This is very damaging to Asstralis brand - they may not recover.
In the early days of pro baseball/football/etc, there were some team owners that tried to "stack the deck" in many different ways but now there are strict rules against those cheats because "Someone" (players/fans/owners/etc) took a stand to change the system.
Best wishes.
@@zarrahkat8954 Agree with you on most things and, just to be clear, I think Astralis should be punished, how ever players seeking to punish Astralis does not achieve a thing to overall pro cs environment. I think they should've tried to remove that rule completely having an argument that blast itself does not comply them like they did in this case
@@nojusnaraskevecius6339 Yes, I agree. I do think we need more info to understand everything - maybe there is more to it that would explain some actions.
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funny that no matter what event its always turkish fans with the least sportsmanship just look at the football euro
sure it's always turkish? eternal fire was number #18 they hardly get into any finals or you're confusing them with brazillian fans? Brazillian teams progress further so their fans are usually there. back in LG and SK glory days they were the disruptors.
Fans aided NaVi in finalz. jL just made a lame excuse stating he was lookin at the camera. in 1v3 clutch situation NAVi Crowd was aiding em. Stop blaming EF instead as everyone knows you guys still not digesting how EF came in finalz and busted NAVI in two maps below 10 spawns.
Who is this imhat 😂
XD I heard JimHat
@@Tha2yo its just gymfat
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