I wish tournaments were longer not just the big events. Better outside the server content, more meaningful matches (not the next tourney is in two days)
Aleksi seems to be happy and thriving under Blade, it really can't be understated how important he is to bring out the best in players and that's a big part of Navi's consistent success.
@@nomic1968 yes a little but it was not like they were all over the place talking ok top of each other im sure he meant nothing bad he is just that type of person who loves to speak on things
Feels like a weird alternative universe where you're watching Pep Guardiola, Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho having a really frank and honest conversation about being a Premier League manager. Genuinely felt like some really smart and successful brains, being honest in a way that's hard to find.
Great comment. Would be crazy to see something like this in football but I'm happy CS is so close to its community that we get to see this type of content regularly.
Esl with the goated contents. Also amazing choice of igls in terms of games: During the games, Apex who shows the most emotions, Aleksib who is mostly stoic and karrigan who looks like the mixture of both, yet all of them great leaders born through so many set backs.
it is nice to see people speak a little bit more freely and openly, rather than just see them fragging and talking 3min interview answers before and after maps lets you get to know them more. great video!
The hilarious skits are great but please add more of these round tables as well. The audience gains so much more appreciation for the game from hearing these top tier players speak openly for an hour.
i think it absolutely helps that compared to almost every other esport the game doesn't freaking shake the table so much (patches and updates). people, regions, teams can actually develop.
Treasure of an Interview !!! Feels so good and refreshing to hear these interviews !!!! Shows the importance and mindset of IGL's and the difficulties they face and love to see them overcome it and enjoy the interview !! Would definitely love more of these !!!
Would just like to say this video is absolutely one off the greatest videos I’ve watched in a long time. Getting insight from some the most experienced cs players is incredible. Huge thank you to whoever organised this and hopefully content like this keeps up.
Aleksi has always been such a great glue guy. Not too agreeable, maybe naive yes when he was younger but he is such a master at turning the anxieties and negative feelings into something positive. Like psychological alchemy of sorts. When he was streaming with his old friends recently one of them started to bicker about the opponent just walking through the smoke and no one watching. Told the person to wake the f up. Then it got a little tense for a moment and then Aleksi called their next play and personally addressed the person who made the mistake that "hey this time please make sure that no one walks through" and they laughed and won the next round easily. This cannot be understated how important these people are in any organization.
That’s a lot of Brain power in one room, I’m a huge fan of Karrigan, and Faze by extension, so I’m mostly here for him. Not to take anything away from Apex and Alexisb, they’re both masterminds as well!
@@althebrokeone7383 gla1ve has had a higher peak in terms of pure domination from 2018-2020 but outside the scope of the Astralis core he had when they were winning everything, he never lifted trophies with any other iteration of Astralis or a different team. Karrigan has lifted trophies with 4 different lineups across 3 different teams and 3 different time periods (you could argue 4 different time periods). People forget that longevity plays a key role in the GOAT igl debate and gla1ve hadn't won anything prior to the Astralis core that won everything, nor has he won anything afterwards without them. Unless he has a crazy resurgence, he isn't the GOAT anymore.
@@althebrokeone7383 its a problem of perspective. how much does it make sense to factor in team accomplishments when you talk about individual skill ( which i hope we are talking about in the "goat" discussion). of course team accomplishments will have to be factored in, but imho way too many people factor them in with a way too high value).
This was great.. this is what should be happening during down time at tournaments imo. The fan cares more about the players n such than the cast n co. Imo you would get alot more views having like a round table type convo with pro's. Atleast an hr long
I could listen to one of these vids every week, this is so insightful. Ty for doing this, thanks to apEX, Aleksib and karrigan for being a part of this. Looking forward to see more of this, maybe even with other roles.
30 minutes in and I'm sitting here with a big smile on my face for the whole time. This is such an interesting conversation and I hope there is more of it in the future
Really nice discussion, with valuable insight into the methods and mindset of these 3 great IGLs. Need more of these types of videos. Well done to whoever came up with this format!
I really, really love Aleksi and and recognize his abilities, but I think karrigan is the true big brain and legend here. Karrigans contribution to the cs and IGLing in general is starting to take immeasurable widths. Karrigan is really underrated IGL of CS:GO/2 and even 1.6 and he still have hadn't his peak I guess. He has so much potential to be the greatest igl ever in the game (if he isn't it already). I really just hope he keeps playing for many years to come and competes against aleksi often! Great rivalries, great respect and even friendships are shown on the video right here. And this is coming from a Finn who really simps aleksi, but have also been around CS since the first beta versions of 1999.
Such a good convo. So much to learn for anyone in the scene or who wants to get in: how to be a better coach, a better teammate to your IGL (don't forget the strat!, say "my bad" or if you whiffed), casters/commentary/analysts, this was packed with good info. Thank you ESL and Spunj for setting this up. Great work all around.
I didnt want this to end :( Such great inside of the igl role, but also the competetive scene in general, by 3 of the current greatest minds in CS. 1 hour and 8 minutes well spent. Thank you ESL, Apex, Aleksib, Karrigan and Spunj :)
Awesome content. I understand why it's not feasible, but getting to listen to comms live during matches would really elevate CS as a spectator experience and the general appreciation viewers have of IGLs. It's clear these guys are doing a lot more for their teams than was is seen on the scoreboard.
I don't know if you guys did some sort of content like this before, but if it's the first time you're doing it I must say it's an incredible idea! I really enjoyed watching the guys talk about their experiences in and out of the server... Good job!
So much cs brain power in one room. loved this talk, so interesting and so much good information about how this great IGls look at different moments of the game. Really shows you how deep Cs can be and what makes it such a great game
Honestly the last part of the video is interesting when he's talking about pushing buttons when you're losing. What is it like to be losing and having problems in the middle of the tournament? What priorities do you take, how do you battle confidence in the middle of a tournament and stuff like that. Great video!
Such a brilliant idea to hear from the brains behind everything. Would be great to hear similarly from the other roles as well and see how they're perspective is like
the game truly is a confidence game and you can feel that as a player of any level with a bit of self awareness. that's why building consistency is key to be a great player, something I've been lacking for a while. I have days where I feel so confident and demolish everything, and other days where I lack the confidence and get tossed around. consistency is what separates a good player from a great player. of course, that consistency comes with consistent work and sweat
My favorite part of this is getting a good feel for how socially and emotionally intelligent these guys are supplementary to their technical skills. Being a leader is so strenuous technically that it’s easy to forget how important it is to be a good logical thinker with regards to people and relationships as a leader as well. Also, Chad did a great job running the table and was the perfect host for this, well done SpunJ!
Say what you will about them, but ESL has been doing serious work in providing incredibly high quality content in CS in recent years. You guys are very near to filling that Beyond The Summit-sized hole in my heart.
This is literally a masters course in leadership and IGL'ing. Karrigan's sentiment about having passion for the game and trusting his teammates, apEX's emphasis on empowering his teammates and putting them first, and how Aleksib was able to reflect on his past, learn from his experiences, and use the knowledge to be a better leader. Awesome
Karrigan is surprisingly sharp. I'm really impressed by the depth of his knowledge even compared with the other well-established IGL's around the table.
Speaking while not giving any examples of your team or how u think as an IGL , its hard tbh , they all try to hide something from eachother , and its so obv , i love that
My respect for Karrigan increased after this video. These players are really great individually but Karrigan has more experience and giving some peek information.
I don't know why you guys used to hate him. Like he's emotional and excentric in game everyone know that it's not new, but he was always a good guy and funny.
Just coz hes a but agresaive and hyperactive ppl hate him but not all ppl are same and we need ppl like him coz he brings that banter and agression in a good way in game. Outside game hes a nice guy
Wonderfull. I have watched almost every cs tournament since last 4 years. I have watched almost every episode of (thorin's channel {snake and banter, show with maniac}, Talking counter's every episode, every episode of hltv confirmed) this is the best content. Apart from the walking back in time series (idk exact name) of Richard lewis where they compare the best csgo teams of all time.
whoever at ESL had the idea for these long-form round table discussions needs a raise
Exactly !!
Based
@@Ansee7 fr man
I wish tournaments were longer not just the big events. Better outside the server content, more meaningful matches (not the next tourney is in two days)
It was me. ESL hire me
This is one of the best cs related videos I've ever watched 🤯
They leaked everything to Aleksi XD
ur videos are better
Do u have a playbook or no ?
Jl next igl?
Thorin owns you
Aleksi seems to be happy and thriving under Blade, it really can't be understated how important he is to bring out the best in players and that's a big part of Navi's consistent success.
For sure. Already 2 great wins this year and a lot is on the blade and aleksi combo. Huge cs brains here
blade defently GOAT Coach
blade is for sure a top 3 OAT coach. He's incredibly fucking good.
@@mariushager9983 3!
U can sense the respect between all of these guys, listening and not interrupting when someone speaks. A table that just has so much aura and class.
good call. love podcasts when participants allow people to finish their thoughts without interrupting every 5 seconds
Apex literally interrupted multiple times within the first 10 minutes of the video wdym
@@nomic1968 yes a little but it was not like they were all over the place talking ok top of each other im sure he meant nothing bad he is just that type of person who loves to speak on things
@@nomic1968 oh hell nah he being super quiet and respect
their literally cs players...
Feels like a weird alternative universe where you're watching Pep Guardiola, Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho having a really frank and honest conversation about being a Premier League manager.
Genuinely felt like some really smart and successful brains, being honest in a way that's hard to find.
Great comment. Would be crazy to see something like this in football but I'm happy CS is so close to its community that we get to see this type of content regularly.
who?
The question is, which is which?😂
Esl with the goated contents. Also amazing choice of igls in terms of games: During the games, Apex who shows the most emotions, Aleksib who is mostly stoic and karrigan who looks like the mixture of both, yet all of them great leaders born through so many set backs.
it is nice to see people speak a little bit more freely and openly, rather than just see them fragging and talking 3min interview answers before and after maps
lets you get to know them more. great video!
the interviews ( those after the games i mean) are redundant also. its like in football. same questions and the players are trained how to answer.
The hilarious skits are great but please add more of these round tables as well. The audience gains so much more appreciation for the game from hearing these top tier players speak openly for an hour.
I think CS is the most developed esports in terms of the proffesional environment and all these player interactions.
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i think it absolutely helps that compared to almost every other esport the game doesn't freaking shake the table so much (patches and updates). people, regions, teams can actually develop.
@@xaevius5319 cs is really like a sport
@xaevius5319 Very true, I’ve never thought about that before.
idk i still prefer riot's tournament scheduling and i dont even play league or valo
Treasure of an Interview !!! Feels so good and refreshing to hear these interviews !!!! Shows the importance and mindset of IGL's and the difficulties they face and love to see them overcome it and enjoy the interview !! Would definitely love more of these !!!
Would just like to say this video is absolutely one off the greatest videos I’ve watched in a long time. Getting insight from some the most experienced cs players is incredible. Huge thank you to whoever organised this and hopefully content like this keeps up.
Aleksi has always been such a great glue guy. Not too agreeable, maybe naive yes when he was younger but he is such a master at turning the anxieties and negative feelings into something positive. Like psychological alchemy of sorts. When he was streaming with his old friends recently one of them started to bicker about the opponent just walking through the smoke and no one watching. Told the person to wake the f up. Then it got a little tense for a moment and then Aleksi called their next play and personally addressed the person who made the mistake that "hey this time please make sure that no one walks through" and they laughed and won the next round easily. This cannot be understated how important these people are in any organization.
That’s a lot of Brain power in one room, I’m a huge fan of Karrigan, and Faze by extension, so I’m mostly here for him. Not to take anything away from Apex and Alexisb, they’re both masterminds as well!
yeah karri is goat of igling
@@yuuzhnah I think he has a good argument in the goat category but I think Glaive ultimately is the best in cs history just from his accomplishments.
@@althebrokeone7383if you look at accomplishments there are many better igl's than karrigan
@@althebrokeone7383 gla1ve has had a higher peak in terms of pure domination from 2018-2020 but outside the scope of the Astralis core he had when they were winning everything, he never lifted trophies with any other iteration of Astralis or a different team. Karrigan has lifted trophies with 4 different lineups across 3 different teams and 3 different time periods (you could argue 4 different time periods). People forget that longevity plays a key role in the GOAT igl debate and gla1ve hadn't won anything prior to the Astralis core that won everything, nor has he won anything afterwards without them. Unless he has a crazy resurgence, he isn't the GOAT anymore.
@@althebrokeone7383 its a problem of perspective. how much does it make sense to factor in team accomplishments when you talk about individual skill ( which i hope we are talking about in the "goat" discussion). of course team accomplishments will have to be factored in, but imho way too many people factor them in with a way too high value).
A brilliant episode. Really enjoyed how they all speak about their experiences.
i just love how well they get along and respect eachother
This was great.. this is what should be happening during down time at tournaments imo. The fan cares more about the players n such than the cast n co. Imo you would get alot more views having like a round table type convo with pro's. Atleast an hr long
I could listen to one of these vids every week, this is so insightful. Ty for doing this, thanks to apEX, Aleksib and karrigan for being a part of this. Looking forward to see more of this, maybe even with other roles.
30 minutes in and I'm sitting here with a big smile on my face for the whole time. This is such an interesting conversation and I hope there is more of it in the future
His hair is so beautiful
u mean Alexi?
@@user-veronicaaa who else
@@senminatorobama1461 u right😉
@@senminatorobama1461 apex with the salt and pepper poppin is pretty good too.
@@shotgun_chef3265 nah apeX should BALD! He said he will shave after major win, so much time since Paris and still radio silence...
Wow, just wow. This was super interesting to listen. Masterminds at work🤯 Just how can you hate these guys…❤
amazing consept ESL, we need more of this kind of content. really opens up the scene for everyone watching.
This is pure gold, thanks to everyone who made this possible and thank younto the IGLs, such a cool thing to hear what you guys are saying. :)
Really nice discussion, with valuable insight into the methods and mindset of these 3 great IGLs. Need more of these types of videos. Well done to whoever came up with this format!
Truly the four all time top igls
apex is fraud zywoo merchant
What did he win?? Ill be waiting 😊@iamrightyouarewrong6730
Glaive and Karrigan
@@tech4172 please tell me you didn't think they were being serious
tbh only missing gla1ve
3 legends there AleksiB is the big Brain for me , He has proven over time that he is worthy
I really, really love Aleksi and and recognize his abilities, but I think karrigan is the true big brain and legend here. Karrigans contribution to the cs and IGLing in general is starting to take immeasurable widths. Karrigan is really underrated IGL of CS:GO/2 and even 1.6 and he still have hadn't his peak I guess. He has so much potential to be the greatest igl ever in the game (if he isn't it already). I really just hope he keeps playing for many years to come and competes against aleksi often! Great rivalries, great respect and even friendships are shown on the video right here.
And this is coming from a Finn who really simps aleksi, but have also been around CS since the first beta versions of 1999.
@@moonchant karrigan is a Finn too 😏
@@lilKuri 🤣
@@moonchant40yo simping over a CS player lmao
@@pekkale I'm a year younger than karrigan.
Such a good convo. So much to learn for anyone in the scene or who wants to get in: how to be a better coach, a better teammate to your IGL (don't forget the strat!, say "my bad" or if you whiffed), casters/commentary/analysts, this was packed with good info. Thank you ESL and Spunj for setting this up. Great work all around.
I didnt want this to end :(
Such great inside of the igl role, but also the competetive scene in general, by 3 of the current greatest minds in CS.
1 hour and 8 minutes well spent. Thank you ESL, Apex, Aleksib, Karrigan and Spunj :)
easily one of the best counter-strike related videos i've ever seen.
the best IGLs in the game, great discussion
THIS! This the the content we've all been craving! ❤
This was great! I love Aleksib and became apEX fan. Thanks for hte video, please do more!
absolutley great table, also APEX is such an funny dude. love it when he tells his storys
great to hear from these legends. hope there'll be more igl roundtables with some of the other greats in the future
Love your profile pic!
Awesome content. I understand why it's not feasible, but getting to listen to comms live during matches would really elevate CS as a spectator experience and the general appreciation viewers have of IGLs. It's clear these guys are doing a lot more for their teams than was is seen on the scoreboard.
I don't know if you guys did some sort of content like this before, but if it's the first time you're doing it I must say it's an incredible idea! I really enjoyed watching the guys talk about their experiences in and out of the server... Good job!
Aleksi is so information, bringing up a lot of shit we don’t see from the outside
This was brilliant! Insightful, gripping and all round class. Give the person who thought of this a raise and keep these coming please.
So much cs brain power in one room. loved this talk, so interesting and so much good information about how this great IGls look at different moments of the game. Really shows you how deep Cs can be and what makes it such a great game
akesib goat
Honestly the last part of the video is interesting when he's talking about pushing buttons when you're losing. What is it like to be losing and having problems in the middle of the tournament? What priorities do you take, how do you battle confidence in the middle of a tournament and stuff like that. Great video!
Such a brilliant idea to hear from the brains behind everything. Would be great to hear similarly from the other roles as well and see how they're perspective is like
This is awesome. PLEASE do more roundtable content like this
Awesome format - and great guests.
So good, love this IGL Table
MERCI POUR L'INTERVIEW ! PLUS DE CONTENT COMME CELUI-CI
These guys really cement why they're the best out there! Brilliant content!
Would absolutely love to see more of these!
spunj, my favorite igl
This is so nice podcast! You can really learn things to your personal life aswell from stuff they are talking about !
Thanks for this content. Whoever came up with this needs a raise!
Listened while working and I had a blast!
Absolute banger of a content ESL. Super fun all the way through
This is some amazing content, thanks for this!
this was one of the best things i’ve watched as a cs fan. i really liked how all the igls were respectful to each other and spunj.
I'm just loving every single second of that content, it's just so precious
We need more of these kinda podcasts, PLEASE its so good, love it!
This was so cool all three of these guys are the best! More of these interviews please❤️❤️❤️
THIS IS SUCH A TREAT THANK YOU ESL !!!
Thoroughly enjoyed this type of content.
the game truly is a confidence game and you can feel that as a player of any level with a bit of self awareness. that's why building consistency is key to be a great player, something I've been lacking for a while. I have days where I feel so confident and demolish everything, and other days where I lack the confidence and get tossed around. consistency is what separates a good player from a great player. of course, that consistency comes with consistent work and sweat
My favorite part of this is getting a good feel for how socially and emotionally intelligent these guys are supplementary to their technical skills. Being a leader is so strenuous technically that it’s easy to forget how important it is to be a good logical thinker with regards to people and relationships as a leader as well.
Also, Chad did a great job running the table and was the perfect host for this, well done SpunJ!
Say what you will about them, but ESL has been doing serious work in providing incredibly high quality content in CS in recent years. You guys are very near to filling that Beyond The Summit-sized hole in my heart.
Tbh, i love the way how Aleksib playes and reads the Game.
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People being friends. I love this.
This is so healthy!!!
Amazing podcast I wish we could have more content like this in the future!
This is literally a masters course in leadership and IGL'ing. Karrigan's sentiment about having passion for the game and trusting his teammates, apEX's emphasis on empowering his teammates and putting them first, and how Aleksib was able to reflect on his past, learn from his experiences, and use the knowledge to be a better leader. Awesome
More of this kind of content please!
yknow idk if people give spunj flowers but he is really good at being chill and informative when he talks to pros :)
thanks, SPUNJ and co. this was really nice
I don't know if its just me, but I love the different accents by the players!
Was doing something, its 5.15am, i see this video came out, i watched it whole. More this please, top tier content.
SPUNJ is actually a good presenter/moderator!
Some of the most valuable and interesting cs content out there.
We need more IGL chats, they have a much better understanding than other pros
Best cs content I saw in a loooong time.
Aleksib
I've never expected I would enjoy it so much. Thank you, ESL! :) And what a beautiful mix of IGLs, if you think about it
Karrigan is surprisingly sharp. I'm really impressed by the depth of his knowledge even compared with the other well-established IGL's around the table.
Speaking while not giving any examples of your team or how u think as an IGL , its hard tbh , they all try to hide something from eachother , and its so obv , i love that
As a complete cs nerd and a person who loves to analyze the extreme psychology of counter strike. This is amazing.
I am a IGL-AWPER but for igl this video taught me to much 😊
This is pure gold, holy shit
NEED more videos like this when these 3 around same table🎉
crazy how down to earth they are compared to the personalities they are depicted as by chat in offiicial and co streams
This video is such a gem.
This might be one of the most valuable videos ESL has released. I wish it had 5x the views.
HOLY finally these IGLs gets to talk with the goat of IGLs
Them talking about their player is so interresting, more of this please ESLLLLLL
My respect for Karrigan increased after this video. These players are really great individually but Karrigan has more experience and giving some peek information.
TY ESL FOR DOING A GREAT JOB BEHIND THE SCENE..
I used to dislike Apex. Not anymore. What a lad!
same here after 2023
I don't know why you guys used to hate him.
Like he's emotional and excentric in game everyone know that it's not new, but he was always a good guy and funny.
apex is a real one. Been watching cs for over 10 years and im an aleksib fan.
Just coz hes a but agresaive and hyperactive ppl hate him but not all ppl are same and we need ppl like him coz he brings that banter and agression in a good way in game. Outside game hes a nice guy
You guys should release more of the recorded videos that you’ve shown with players between the games in the livestreams
Important talk here, thanks ESL
Nice podcast, I love Karrigan, Aleksi & Apex. I have my favorite ofc, but it doesn't matter. See you guys soon in Cologne 😎
This is such top tier content, Thanks ESL!
who is here after 1-11 to 16-13 match :D :D karrigan words about confidence hits different now
right bro when he was talking about shutting down and how he learned he cant in order to be a leader was insane to hear after the comeback
Wonderfull. I have watched almost every cs tournament since last 4 years. I have watched almost every episode of (thorin's channel {snake and banter, show with maniac}, Talking counter's every episode, every episode of hltv confirmed) this is the best content. Apart from the walking back in time series (idk exact name) of Richard lewis where they compare the best csgo teams of all time.
Great video, love every second of it!
Cant help but wet myself at all of apEX's funny faces 😂😂
Love that guy
Great video, with great insight into the game with some of the best characters to play the game.
good to see notail talking to other IGL's