I discovered your channel a few days and its wonderful keep going and i also recommend you to talk about the 1971 Sudanese coup and counter coup and how nemeiry ( Sudan military dictator at that time ) managed to purge the whole communists in the country brutally greeting from Sudan
Brilliant! Always wanted to understand more about this. My father was a Gunner in the Royal Artillery in Cyprus from 56 to 58 and was nearly blown up on his third night there. He always loved the Cypriots and had a lot of sympathy for their cause. Thanks for a great video
@@Pavlos_Charalambous It was on his 3rd night there. He had been on guard duty at the front gate. He finished at 10 and went to the NAAFI to have some supper. 5 minutes later an EOKA "terrorist” lobbed a hand grenade at the post! Lucky, my dad was intelligent enough to realise to know we shouldn't be there but also that the British was also keeping the peace too. Sometimes you need a bad guy to make the right decisions. He loved Cyprus and Keo Beer!
One of the best comments I've ever read. God bless u Phil, me old mucker. It's so refreshing to see a logical insight from a Brit into the Cypriot struggle for freedom, as most brits and Turks label the brave Cypriot warriors as terrorists rather than freedom fighters as they were. Much love from Kypros 🇨🇾♥️😊
Even as far back as 1946, Ernest Bevin, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote in a secret memo to his Cabinet colleagues with regard to developing Cyprus as a British base: '' ... our whole policy towards Cyprus will have to be reviewed, for we have starved the Cypriots, treated them very badly, and must mend our ways.'' But they never did mend their ways. Just 8 years later in the House of Commons the Colonial Minister, Henry Hopkinson, would bluntly declare that geostrategic colonies such as Cyprus could “never expect to be fully independent”. The modern history of the indigenous people of Cyprus has been one of disenfranchisement by the imperial powers of Britain and Turkey. And it continues to this day.
The British always took over other peoples lands and then called them terrorists when they fought for freedom. Brit politicians lie, Brit soldiers murder civilians.
I was a US Marine stationed in Cyprus 71-74. There, I read a lot of the island's history, and knew a bit of the struggles for ENOSIS. I was also there until the Turkish invasion . This brief video, however, presented the events and people of those years coherently and within the larger context. History. well done.✔ n.b. Of course I will be pleased to comment on my experiences there in 74 when you get to that video history
Would you be willing to attest to any massacres in the name of Enosis? Why subsequently lead to a reaction by Turkey? How much did you know, I am curious . The world is fed one side of that conflict and speak as though it is to be truth.
Don’t remember any US military station during that time. I know there was CIA Agents there. In 1971-1974 US was involved in Vietnam in your time you say you were station in Cyprus. In 1973 was the fuel crises in the USA.
@@A.Musa76 Not the US. What were you told about the conflict between greece and turkey on the island. Do you know how it started? What lead to a reaction from Turkey? Do you think Turkey were bad guys as the world was conned into believing. The truth is much more complicated as many don't know and those who share talk of only 1 side.
Georgios Grivas was the II Division's chief of staff during the Greco-Italian War and it's said that due to the divisional GOC Maj. Gen. Georgios Lavdas' advanced age, Col. Grivas was the mastermind behind the successful operations of the division in Albania
Well,that's a rumor my friend. What is true 100% is that Grivas was the chief in command of the organization "X",an organization that during the occupation of Greece from the Germans (1942-1944) was fighting in the name of Hitler,armed from Hitler and the members of this organization were fanatically anti communists. Grivas collaborated with the occupation forces and tried to kil with every possible way the resistance that true patriots were striving for. Unfortunately in Greece,after the German retreat there was a civil war that the Greek collaborators with Nazi Germany won with the help of Britain and usa.That made Greece a unique example in post WW2 history.We had civil war after WW2 and the Nazi collaborators where never trialed or jailed.For what is even worse,the true resistance leaders where killed,jailed or exiled. Returning back to Grivas,it was becoming clear that he was,sooner or later,going to be caught from true patriots and executed,so the post civil war far right government sent him in Cyprus to create a resistance movement(which was highly anticipated in colonized Cyprus for many reasons) and he formed EOKA.
@@akisipoculturespath8290 It's neither rumour nor hearsay that Grivas was a competent officer in the war with Italy. On the other hand you have it all wrong, you confuse X with the "Unknown Division" the organisation Grivas abandoned, protesting for their open pro-German stance. X were an anti-communist organisation firstly and foremostly, and according to modern historians (Fleischer, Richter) although X were one of the eight resistance organisations that had signed the pact with the Middle East Allied Command and the Greek government in exile, they did not participate in the struggle against the occupiers, but waited for the German withdrawal for a final confrontation with EAM and the communists. X were monarchists and anti-communists more than anti-German
@@apmoy70 I didn't mean that is a rumor the participation of Grivas in the Albanian front.I said that is a rumor that he was the mastermind behind the win in the Greco-Italian war. He was the leader of X organization from the day it was formed.Of course,as I mentioned,he didn't participate in the resistance of German occupation because their oath swear oath to Hitler(you can search the oath of X). In the times of the retreat of the Germans because the fighting was escalating between the resistance and the occupiers,he accepted that his troops would be armed from the Germans in order to reduce the german casualties and replace them with Greek traitors.We called them Germanotsoliades. You can read the Grivas Life written by a friend of his while he was alive. He says everything there,he admits everything (without torture ;))
@@akisipoculturespath8290 Nowhere in the organisational pledge, Hitler is ever mentioned once (the pledge of Organisation X): "I Believe -In a Great, Glorious, Free and Blissful Greece. -In the regime our forefathers bestowed on us, under which we thrived, and which respects: Individual Freedom, and the traditions of the love for the Fatherland, Religion and Family. For that, I'm against Communism which: -Represents a different version of Fascism and Criminal violance. Is in a state of denial of the concept of the Fatherland, and its members are instruments of foreign goals that oppose national interests. I Believe -In Social Justice based not on the struggle of classes or the conflict between capitalists and workers, but in the harmonious co-operation between them. -In the Political System of Constitutional Monarchy which fits well with our national character and traditions, serves better our national interests and constitutes a berm against Communism." Again, you have a mush in your head, X were not Security Battalions. Organisation X was a pro-monarchy, staunch anti-communist resistance group, which although was a signatory of the pact between the British, the 8 major Greek resistance groups, and the Greek government in exile, in reality lurked in the shadows during the occupation, gathering members, money and weapons for a confrontation against the EAM and the communists. You have confused X's activities during the Civil War with the X during the occupation. Two completely different organisations.
@@akisipoculturespath8290 i think you are confusing " x " with" security battalions" that did took oaths to " the supreme commander of German forces " ( Hitler) being part of the local SS police The x was notorious and in did they mostly care about the aftermath of ww2 but they was mostly the " long hand " of the government in exile than axis collaborators Basically it was the equivalent of " OPLA" with everything that means. The period of the German occupation is a very complicated one , for example did you knew that " city police" was working with ELAS? while the " mechanised" one was openly pro nazi? Or did you knew that EDES has disowned EDES of Athens for collaborating with the enemy? Things aren't always straight forward white or black..
Let’s see if this one follows the typical pattern… 1. Old colonial issue reaches peak after WWII 2. Extended, dirty conflict commences, involving colonial power, local forces, some massacres, some communists and/or some US backing 3. Conflict “ends” in some combination of unhappy partition/stalemate/foreign domination/cruel and ineffectual government 4. Conflict remains cold but unresolved to the present day Yep, it checks the boxes.
@@Barberserk well if we think about it Cyprus is cut 3 ways , the Turkish occupation zone , the British bases and the rest of the island In reality the British didn't lost much from the London agreement on the contrary they kept a strategic position without having to care about the local population
@@Pavlos_Charalambous oh sure, everyone got along famously before the British arrived. Hindus loved Muslims, Catholics loved Protestants, Jews loved Arabs, cats loved dogs. It's a complete myth spread by nationalists to cover up the acts of barbarism committed by their own heroes. "The British made made them do it."
2:20 I have to disagree that Cyprus was handed over by the Ottomans to the British Crown. What really happened is, that the Ottomans allowed the British to build up a military fort there and receive rent for it. It was not formally handed over. With the start of WWI the British forces annexed it by force. That's when the UK started formally owning the island, not before.
@@johnsabini2330 The Ottomans actually always tried getting into the alliance with the Triple Entente, but were rejected because of Russian interests along the Turkish straits and British interests in the Middle East - therefore the stronger pro-british Ottoman elite (also Sultan Abdulhamid II. who was held captive in the Beylerbeyi Palace after a coup and the loss of Thessaloniki during the First Balkan War but still playing a major advisory role for the ruling junta) had no room to play anymore against the pro-german party of the Young Turks.
Cypriot here,a fun fact about Archbishop Makarios 3rd. After the independence in 1960, he as the President of the Cyprus took an active role with Marshall Tito to establish the Non-Aligned Movement. The US thought Cyprus was turning to Communism. As a result,the US newspapers branded him "CASTRO OF THE MEDITERRANEAN" and the British press called him "BLACK MAK" because of priest garments.
I very much enjoyed this episode. My mum was in Cyprus, as her father was stationed there in the late 50s and early 60s. She has nightmares to this day.
@@micheypatsa the British are an insurance policy against Turkish invasion. If the British weren’t on the island then Turkey would have taken the entire island.
@TheExplorer Cypriots don't have enough money or would never care to recruit all these youtubers. My assumption is that the majority of the world haven't even heard about Cyprus all this time despite its issue being very serious and tragic. Recently it became a hot topic again because of Turkey's provocations in the island's EEZ and the illegal re-opening of the Greek Cypriot city of Varosha (Famagusta) by Turks. So I wouldn't be surprised if many people around the world started getting curious about the country after that, asking their selves ''why is Cyprus in this position and how it got there?'' and researching for answers, many of whom, youtubers.
@@sstrielka Yeah sure. Turkey got its Taksim at the expense of the native Greeks - the overwhelming majority of the island's population - with the connivance of the Brits. Turks seem not to have qualms about living in other people's homes.
@@GeoBBB123 Taksim was as a counter offer to Enosis, greeks started all this shit, got owned and only thing left to do is to join EU and hope somebody will do smth about it. Turkish cypriots homes still stand abandoned on south side or given away to refugees from NORTH part of Cyprus, just because of huge corruption and bureaucracy on south side things are moving slowly slowly... MEanwhile proud cypriots cross to tha "bad" side for cheaoer shopping and holidays
Cyprus has been Greek for millennia. Despite being occupied by turks for many years, Greek Cypriots managed to keep their language, religion and traditions.
That's exactly what I trying to write as a comment at the infamous Johnny Harris video on Cyprus! At that video Harris stated that the Greek cypriots and the Turkish cypriots were living together for MILLENNIA, which is absolutely false! The Greek cypriots were living in Cyprus for millennia but the Turkish cypriots settled in Cyprus from 1571 on, after the massive Ottoman Turkish military invasion of the island! Apparently, that kind of truth is not convenient to Johnny Harris and his eventual patrons, thus he is blatantly blocking any relative comment!
@@ThomasGazis this is the problem with every "geopolitical analyst" who puts two ethnic groups who are in conflict on the same level. It reminded me of this british writer (I don't remember his name) who put the armenians and the azerbaidjanis on the same level while completely forgetting the fact that the armenians lived in Nagorno Kharabagh far before the azerbaidjanis. Here it's exactly the same. Too many people are putting the greeks and the turks on the same level of "legitimacy". I haven't seen the video you're talking about, but it's probably the case
Grivas was refered to several times in "Der moderne Kleinkrieg" by von der Heydte. 17:36 I dont think thats a good phrase given the context of the cold war.
'Cyprus is as much a part of Britain as Devon and Cornwall.' This was said in the House of Commons about the notion of independence, I can't remember who but surprised it didn't get a mention. My parents have retired to Cyprus, the next door neighbour was a former EOKA fighter. The island was given to Britain by the Ottomans as the price for halting the Russian advance on Istanbul in 1878.
"The island was given to Britain by the Ottomans"??? In what way it was "given"? The Greek - cypriots were living in the island for entire millennia! The Turkish - cypriots had settled in the island from 1571 CE on, after the massive Ottoman-Turkish military invasion of the island! Back in 1878 the Greek-cypriots were the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the island! So, under what law and under what justice was the island of Cyprus given to the British by the OTTOMAN TURKS? By the law of brute force and violence?
Lol, this guy. Equates colonialism to some weird notion of possession. Nobody belongs to any country. Countries exist because someone who didn't speak the language of your ancestor or their customs conquered them with an army and forced your ancestors to speak their language and customs. Literally go study history. Germany and Italy didn't exist as countries until 150 years ago, and not everyone agreed to be a part of it, but guess what? They got conquered and don't get a say.
@@ThomasGazis Didn't claim anything was acceptable, all empires rule by violence, none should be celebrated and as much as possible they should be remembered in all the gory detail. Quite where you found approval among my words I have no idea.
@@ottoman_reenactor_ct mostly pro greek ( aka orthodox) also meant more than 80% of the whole population . Now I'm not saying that anyone has the right to exterminate but everyone has the right to fight for freedom and prosperity. At this island( I'm born and raised in beautiful Cy) freedom and prosperity of the two societies came into conflict and the British played a major role in that. You see Cyprus was inhabited by Greek tribes since the late bronze age, the ottomans arrived during the 1500s and the British late 19th century. Do you find it weird that the orthodox community felt oppressed and tried to repel other minorities? Although i already told you about my background i try to stay as much objective as i can on the matter due to my sociological studies
@@Palios33 I find it strange even though Greeks cry out about how they were oppressed for hundreds of years when the moment they get into power they go full Genocide mod.
@@micheypatsa legally you cant change it your country signed on the dotted line its literally the reason the Turkish didn't dare touch the British territory when they invaded the North 😂!!
With the help of God, with faith in our honest struggle, with the support of all Hellenism and with the help of the Cypriots, we undertake the struggle to shake off the English yoke, with the motto that our ancestors left us: with your shield or on it (From the EOKA proclamation of April 1, 1955, with the signature "EOKA, the Leader Digenis"
The reality is however that the only thing stopping the Turkish from invading is that they would have to cross the green zone to do so, and in process invade the SBA areas which would be an act of war against the UK. So the UK is a necessary “evil” for security. Also during the covid lockdown, the British military contributed a significant amount to the local economy when tourism had ceased. Unpopular opinion I know.
@@captainhindsight8779 They attacked the SBAs in 1974 and britain ran off and relied on the National Guard to save them but in return didnt help Cyprus but bombed a convoy of Commandos. So no, theyre not a neccessary evil, theyre just evil.
Can you do a video about the war between Somalia and Ethiopia? A Soviet diplomat said in his memoirs that the tragedy in Somalia was caused by the cold war
An amazing job regarding historical facts , outcomes and agendas of all sides specially the dark role of the British,, again well done K&G ,love from the still free part of the republic of Cyprus:) :)
Turkish Intervention is a better explanation. Turkey reacted to the coup d'état of Greek Junta Regime in Cyprus trying to incorporate the island with Greece. As the guarantor of Republic of Cyprus Turkey acted to stop the annexation of the island. Which succeeded in its objective. If it was just a mere invasion Turkey would have seen punitive results for it. (Like it is seeing for comparatively much lighter actions now). Which it didn't. Greece left NATO military command as a protest to NATO letting Turkey intervene on the annexation while Turkey was on full military embargo by NATO. Fun fact Cyprus's independence is actually guaranteed by both Turkey and UK but UK was hesitant on intervention. So Turkey did her part to her guarantee of Republic of Cyprus's independence alone.
@@yenimlt44 fun fact uk facilitated the invasion of northern cyprus. the first ones who should be ejected from the island are those british bases and then the turkish squatters.
@@yenimlt44 Ah yes that old chestnut. An "Intervention" that killed 6000 people and left 1619 persons missing, mostly people captured and sent to Turkey as POW's who disappeared without trace. Creating 200,000 refugees, with 1000s of rapes of even the youngest children to old men and women, displacing the local indigenous population from their ancestral homeland and filling it with Anatolian settlers from Turkey that even Turkey did not want and changing a country with a 12,000 year old history forever. That's some brutal "intervention". There are no excuses for that.
To understand the current conflict in Cyprus one has to understand that the majority of the population in the North before 1974 were Greek Cypriots. They were the majority both in the north and in the south. And thousands of Greek Cypriots owned most private properties there. This is why solutions based on a ''Turkish north'' are not accepted.
Well they didn't kick us out, we're still there by the fact we own Akrotiri and Dhekelia. And in fact, because we were there, stopped the Turkish from taking over the whole island
Yet the British are still in Cyprus... Seems like a very good deal for the British, they got to annex the land on which their bases are located, and they have absolutely no responsibility towards the native populations. A true win, while the Cypriots lost something like 5% of their very limited territory
It’s not only British that still have the (2) military bases. It’s also the United State accuse the government of explicitly encouraging the Greek coup and Turkish invasion in order to preserve three U.S. communications facilities and two British Sovereign Base Areas (SBA’s) established by treaty on the island.
It is amazing that Castro became a communist only after the success of the revolution. In addition, as I know, Chinese in Cuba also participated in the Cuban revolution。✌︎( ᐛ )✌︎
When did Britain withdraw their offer to Greece to give them Cyprus? Greece did join WWI in 1917, why not give it to them then if they had finally joined the war as Britain wanted them to?
The same reason why Ireland didn't got it's independence after ww1 Plus Greece got also the mandate of Smyrna ( modern day Ismir and the surrounding areas )
I really appreciate this channel's effort and find their contents fairly objective in general. But this video is materially focuses on greek part of the story all too often and and taking one side clearly.
This video heavily downplays the violence and murders by EOKA committed against Turkish Cypriots and Greek communists, but aside from that, it is pretty fine. The TMT didn't pop out of nowhere, but as a reaction to the anti-Turkish sentiment of EOKA during 1955-58.
Grivas, a nazi collaborator (founder of the fascist organization X), was rescued by the British in '44 during the battle of Athens, to fight them in the 50's. Historical irony.
@@SJ-nl6xl because they are uneducated morons .. grivas was the leader of organisation X that fought Nazis and communists ... They mainly fought Communists because they were more dangerous to the other rebel factions operating in Hellas, since the communist rebels fought and killed other rebels fighting the Nazis ...
@@dimitrisg45 The "communist" forces you are referring was the National Liberation Front (EAM) which accounted for 90% of the Greek resistance. Without EAM there is no resistance. Go learn history
The title is very misleading,perhaps even a lie. The british weren't kicked, they still occupy the bases, which is why they were on the island to begin with. So you end up with a situation where brits still own their bases but dont have to govern the local population, in addition british influence is still strong and use the turks and greeks against one another to maintain their power.
They were kicked lol, you people think the SBAs are the UK, the only things the brits actually control are the bases themselves nothing outside of them.
@@mojewjewjew4420 No they didnt lol they even said in the commons that they never planned on granting independence to Cyprus, lucky for us, a nutjob Colonel came and changed that.
@@juliusevola2801 Are you writing this while sitting on your couch in Europe while Mullahs are showing the world how "superior" your country is. Oh by the way: Did you know that thousands of Iranians are fleeing to Turkey right now? Why if you are so superior :o?
@@juliusevola2801 Even Greeks aren't indigenous to Anatolia, but ancient Anatolian people like Lydians and Hittites are. And I don't really care that Turks came here as conquerors. We conquered these areas with the legitimacy of the sword and I'm proud of that.
and invited in the turks.. Unironically, they'd have got independance soon after regardless - without the turks invading after it. Ah well. Love cyprus, have a home there (British national myself) and the place is amazing. Wish it went differently though.
I doubt the Brits would give us independence if the protests and EOKA fights didn't happen. Especially considering that they put Turks in the mix so the Greek Cypriots' focus would be somewhere else... you don't do that when you are thinking of letting a place go. Unfortunately, the Brits' failed strategic plans of holding Cyprus longer turned against the Cypriots quite some time after they left the island. It feels almost like they (Brits) have done it on purpose (the aftermath).
Thank you for a very objective and comprehensive coverage of a very complex issue. Important to note the Britain is a guarantor and under Article II of the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee requires the other parties to guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of Cyprus. Article IV reserves the right of the guarantor powers to take action to re-establish the current state of affairs in Cyprus. But Britain did zip all then and since to restore the territorial integrity of Cyprus following the 1974 Turkish invasion. Further Britain has little use for the bases on Cyprus and the US now uses them for its eastern Mediterranean intelligence gathering ops.
Rubbish. The British are still there. 2 SBA's, 2 more military sites outside the SBA's and a large number of UK citizens who have invested in property there.
The Turkish-Cypriot viewpoint has been already "over-justified" by brute force and aggression, by the Turkish military invasion and occupation of Cyprus! So, let's allow this gentleman to be more sympathetic to the victims rather than the victimizers!
Turkish Intervention is a better explanation. Turkey reacted to the coup d'état of Greek Junta Regime in Cyprus trying to incorporate the island with Greece. As the guarantor of Republic of Cyprus Turkey acted to stop the annexation of the island. Which succeeded in its objective. If it was just a mere invasion Turkey would have seen punitive results for it. (Like it is seeing for comparatively much lighter actions now). Which it didn't. Greece left NATO military command as a protest to NATO letting Turkey intervene on the annexation while Turkey was on full military embargo by NATO. Fun fact Cyprus's independence is actually guaranteed by both Turkey and UK but UK was hesitant on intervention. So Turkey did her part to her guarantee of Republic of Cyprus's independence alone. As a Turk I guess if UK intervened with Turkey against annexation attempt there wouldn't be any Turkish presence in the island today.
@@yenimlt44 there shouldn't be any presence of Turks in the island of Cyprus anyway! The Turks are not indigenous to this island! They settled in the Cyprus for the first time in 1571, after the Ottoman Turks militarily invaded - with a massive army - Cyprus, slaughtering thousands of Greeks and usurping their lands and properties! And it is a cheap excuse to say that Turkey militarily invaded Cyprus - slaughtering once more thousands of Greek cypriots - simply because Greece was considering annexing Cyprus! The Turks were planning to militarily invade Cyprus and occupy it long before! They were just waiting for a good pretext! In any case the Turkish military invasion and occupation of the northern Cyprus is illegal by the international law and that's the reason no country in the entire world is recognizing today the "Turkish Republic of North Cyprus" - but Turkey itself! Brute force and violence should not always trample what is considered just and fair (although that seems to be the Turkish dogma, ever since this people descended - as a Turkic people - from the Altay mongolian plateau and militarily occupied the Greek-Byzantine, Armenian, Kurdish lands they are living in today...)
@@ThomasGazis It is easy to use nationalistic exaggerations like you do. Turkey can never, ever occupy Cyprus in foreseeable future. Cypriot Turks settled in 1751 doesn't make them alien to the island. Do you realize how many generations does it make? They have little to no connections to Turkey before the foundation of N. Cyprus Republic. I agree that Turkey should leave the island but not because island is owned by Greek Cypriots or Cypriot Turks. Cyprus is all Cypriots' island. And whether you and I like it or not both sides of Cyprus are allies of Turkey. And add, you shouldn't be so racist about Turks. You can't make the ancestors of a people as an excuse for treating them bad. I do realize N. Cyprus' independence is lessening in the rule of an autocrat these days but this doesn't mean it will continue this way. Whether todays government likes it or not Cyprus is long for reunification. N. Cyprus' people always says it out loud. Since they are a member of EU now, there are no possibility of annexation of Cyrus by any country left. So I do agree that Turkish guarantee has got expended by this point as long as the international community and the locals of the island stop looking their own people with racist ways like you did. Cypriot Turks didn't descend to the island from Altai Mountains, they are locals of the island by this time.
Most Greeks on Cyprus were actually refugees from the Greek-Turkish war 1919-1922 that the British had allowed to settle on the Island. The British were an ally of Greece, the only country to aid Greece during the 1941 Italian Invasion. In the Greek civil war 1944-46 Britain aided the Greek government. For the British it was a great surprise that the Greeks mounted a terrorist attack against them - a real stab in the back! True to form the Greeks ripped up all the agreements made on Independence and prepared for enossis. But not before the Turks in invaded 1974 and kicked Greek ass. The Greek "Liberator" Georgios Grivas the terrorist leader, actually killed more Greek Cypriots than British
''Most Greeks on Cyprus were actually refugees from the Greek-Turkish war 1919-1922 ''' No they weren't, the Greek Cypriots were already majority way before British colonialism ever step foot on the island after the Ottomans gave it to them. '' The British were an ally of Greece'''' HAHAHAHAHAH if Britain was an ally, with such ''allies'', who needs enemies. ''the only country to aid Greece during the 1941 Italian Invasion'' No you didn't, your help in 1940 was almost zero against Italy and when it came to the German invasion most of your troops abandoned Greece. '' In the Greek civil war 1944-46 Britain aided the Greek government.''' You dare to speak of the civil war my dear English-man?? There was no ''Greek government'', your a***hole Churchill established through a direct invasion of Greece in December 1944 a government consisted of unelected former nazi collaborators and through the white terror established your foreign king as well. Your beloved Churchill said to Ronald Scobie to treat Greece as ''conquered land'' despite the victory we offered YOU during the WW2 and you have the audacity to speak of back-stabbing. Your whole history of ''British relationship towards Greece'' from 19th century to the 20th century is nothing but a continuous backstabbing and colonialism against Greece, like the whole rest of the planet. '' But not before the Turks in invaded 1974 and kicked Greek ass.'' Oh wait you can also be a Turk. Yes sure you ''kicked-ass'' by slaughtering unarmed civilians, women and children if that's how your ''civilization'' defines as ''victories''. Because Cyprus had already been demilitarised by Greece some years ago through the treaty of Inonu with Pipinelis during the CIA-colonel's dictatorship of Greece. ''actually killed more Greek Cypriots than British'' Yeah say that to yourself, you might convince him. Even British wrote about EOKA's heroic struggles with admiration!!
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Thanks for hosting the topic, greetings from Cy
What's with the title name change?
I discovered your channel a few days and its wonderful keep going and i also recommend you to talk about the 1971 Sudanese coup and counter coup and how nemeiry ( Sudan military dictator at that time ) managed to purge the whole communists in the country brutally greeting from Sudan
Brilliant! Always wanted to understand more about this. My father was a Gunner in the Royal Artillery in Cyprus from 56 to 58 and was nearly blown up on his third night there. He always loved the Cypriots and had a lot of sympathy for their cause. Thanks for a great video
thats very nice to hear that the british soldiers had sympathy for the cypriot cause!! cheers from Cyprus🙏
He was nearly blown up and he was still sympathetic to the Cypriot cause? What a lad he must have been
Cheers from Greece
@@Pavlos_Charalambous It was on his 3rd night there. He had been on guard duty at the front gate. He finished at 10 and went to the NAAFI to have some supper. 5 minutes later an EOKA "terrorist” lobbed a hand grenade at the post! Lucky, my dad was intelligent enough to realise to know we shouldn't be there but also that the British was also keeping the peace too. Sometimes you need a bad guy to make the right decisions. He loved Cyprus and Keo Beer!
@@ppwoodcock as we call such situations in Greece " double edge knife" ..
One of the best comments I've ever read. God bless u Phil, me old mucker. It's so refreshing to see a logical insight from a Brit into the Cypriot struggle for freedom, as most brits and Turks label the brave Cypriot warriors as terrorists rather than freedom fighters as they were. Much love from Kypros 🇨🇾♥️😊
In the span of just one week, The Cold War, Johnny Harris, and Countryball Explained are all talking about Cyprus! Awesome!
and seek discomfort also 2 weeks ago ...
Johnny Harris is far too idiotic to watch.
Unfortunatly Johnny Harris wasn't fair at all
Johnny’s videos was extremely biased.
Even as far back as 1946, Ernest Bevin, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote in a secret memo to his Cabinet colleagues with regard to developing Cyprus as a British base: '' ... our whole policy towards Cyprus will have to be reviewed, for we have starved the Cypriots, treated them very badly, and must mend our ways.'' But they never did mend their ways. Just 8 years later in the House of Commons the Colonial Minister, Henry Hopkinson, would bluntly declare that geostrategic colonies such as Cyprus could “never expect to be fully independent”. The modern history of the indigenous people of Cyprus has been one of disenfranchisement by the imperial powers of Britain and Turkey. And it continues to this day.
The British always took over other peoples lands and then called them terrorists when they fought for freedom. Brit politicians lie, Brit soldiers murder civilians.
@@seanmccann8368 At least they don't commit ethnic cleansing like the Turks
I was a US Marine stationed in Cyprus 71-74. There, I read a lot of the island's history, and knew a bit of the struggles for ENOSIS. I was also there until the Turkish invasion .
This brief video, however, presented the events and people of those years coherently and within the larger context. History. well done.✔
n.b. Of course I will be pleased to comment on my experiences there in 74 when you get to that video history
Sir,I can't wait for a glimpse of history from your side.
@@akisipoculturespath8290 😎
Would you be willing to attest to any massacres in the name of Enosis? Why subsequently lead to a reaction by Turkey? How much did you know, I am curious . The world is fed one side of that conflict and speak as though it is to be truth.
Don’t remember any US military station during that time. I know there was CIA Agents there. In 1971-1974 US was involved in Vietnam in your time you say you were station in Cyprus. In 1973 was the fuel crises in the USA.
@@A.Musa76 Not the US. What were you told about the conflict between greece and turkey on the island. Do you know how it started? What lead to a reaction from Turkey? Do you think Turkey were bad guys as the world was conned into believing. The truth is much more complicated as many don't know and those who share talk of only 1 side.
Grevious looks a little different without all the enhancements
Hello there
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@@frederikadam9511
General kenobi! You are a bold one!
oh no its Turkish-wan kenobi
Guys your Greek accent is becoming better and better with each new episode in both of your channels ❤️
Georgios Grivas was the II Division's chief of staff during the Greco-Italian War and it's said that due to the divisional GOC Maj. Gen. Georgios Lavdas' advanced age, Col. Grivas was the mastermind behind the successful operations of the division in Albania
Well,that's a rumor my friend.
What is true 100% is that Grivas was the chief in command of the organization "X",an organization that during the occupation of Greece from the Germans (1942-1944) was fighting in the name of Hitler,armed from Hitler and the members of this organization were fanatically anti communists.
Grivas collaborated with the occupation forces and tried to kil with every possible way the resistance that true patriots were striving for.
Unfortunately in Greece,after the German retreat there was a civil war that the Greek collaborators with Nazi Germany won with the help of Britain and usa.That made Greece a unique example in post WW2 history.We had civil war after WW2 and the Nazi collaborators where never trialed or jailed.For what is even worse,the true resistance leaders where killed,jailed or exiled.
Returning back to Grivas,it was becoming clear that he was,sooner or later,going to be caught from true patriots and executed,so the post civil war far right government sent him in Cyprus to create a resistance movement(which was highly anticipated in colonized Cyprus for many reasons) and he formed EOKA.
@@akisipoculturespath8290 It's neither rumour nor hearsay that Grivas was a competent officer in the war with Italy. On the other hand you have it all wrong, you confuse X with the "Unknown Division" the organisation Grivas abandoned, protesting for their open pro-German stance. X were an anti-communist organisation firstly and foremostly, and according to modern historians (Fleischer, Richter) although X were one of the eight resistance organisations that had signed the pact with the Middle East Allied Command and the Greek government in exile, they did not participate in the struggle against the occupiers, but waited for the German withdrawal for a final confrontation with EAM and the communists. X were monarchists and anti-communists more than anti-German
@@apmoy70 I didn't mean that is a rumor the participation of Grivas in the Albanian front.I said that is a rumor that he was the mastermind behind the win in the Greco-Italian war.
He was the leader of X organization from the day it was formed.Of course,as I mentioned,he didn't participate in the resistance of German occupation because their oath swear oath to Hitler(you can search the oath of X).
In the times of the retreat of the Germans because the fighting was escalating between the resistance and the occupiers,he accepted that his troops would be armed from the Germans in order to reduce the german casualties and replace them with Greek traitors.We called them Germanotsoliades.
You can read the Grivas Life written by a friend of his while he was alive.
He says everything there,he admits everything (without torture ;))
@@akisipoculturespath8290 Nowhere in the organisational pledge, Hitler is ever mentioned once (the pledge of Organisation X):
"I Believe
-In a Great, Glorious, Free and Blissful Greece.
-In the regime our forefathers bestowed on us, under which we thrived, and which respects: Individual Freedom, and the traditions of the love for the Fatherland, Religion and Family.
For that, I'm against Communism which:
-Represents a different version of Fascism and Criminal violance. Is in a state of denial of the concept of the Fatherland, and its members are instruments of foreign goals that oppose national interests.
I Believe
-In Social Justice based not on the struggle of classes or the conflict between capitalists and workers, but in the harmonious co-operation between them.
-In the Political System of Constitutional Monarchy which fits well with our national character and traditions, serves better our national interests and constitutes a berm against Communism."
Again, you have a mush in your head, X were not Security Battalions.
Organisation X was a pro-monarchy, staunch anti-communist resistance group, which although was a signatory of the pact between the British, the 8 major Greek resistance groups, and the Greek government in exile, in reality lurked in the shadows during the occupation, gathering members, money and weapons for a confrontation against the EAM and the communists. You have confused X's activities during the Civil War with the X during the occupation. Two completely different organisations.
@@akisipoculturespath8290 i think you are confusing " x " with" security battalions" that did took oaths to " the supreme commander of German forces " ( Hitler) being part of the local SS police
The x was notorious and in did they mostly care about the aftermath of ww2 but they was mostly the " long hand " of the government in exile than axis collaborators
Basically it was the equivalent of " OPLA" with everything that means.
The period of the German occupation is a very complicated one , for example did you knew that " city police" was working with ELAS?
while the " mechanised" one was openly pro nazi?
Or did you knew that EDES has disowned EDES of Athens for collaborating with the enemy?
Things aren't always straight forward white or black..
Let’s see if this one follows the typical pattern…
1. Old colonial issue reaches peak after WWII
2. Extended, dirty conflict commences, involving colonial power, local forces, some massacres, some communists and/or some US backing
3. Conflict “ends” in some combination of unhappy partition/stalemate/foreign domination/cruel and ineffectual government
4. Conflict remains cold but unresolved to the present day
Yep, it checks the boxes.
Just add
* Turning one community against the other ( like Ireland )
* Promising everything to everyone
@@Barberserk well if we think about it Cyprus is cut 3 ways , the Turkish occupation zone , the British bases and the rest of the island
In reality the British didn't lost much from the London agreement on the contrary they kept a strategic position without having to care about the local population
also add different religious and cultural groups massacering each other for no reason to the third one.
@@Pavlos_Charalambous oh sure, everyone got along famously before the British arrived. Hindus loved Muslims, Catholics loved Protestants, Jews loved Arabs, cats loved dogs. It's a complete myth spread by nationalists to cover up the acts of barbarism committed by their own heroes. "The British made made them do it."
This channel's comprehensive coverage is truly extraordinary
2:20 I have to disagree that Cyprus was handed over by the Ottomans to the British Crown. What really happened is, that the Ottomans allowed the British to build up a military fort there and receive rent for it. It was not formally handed over. With the start of WWI the British forces annexed it by force. That's when the UK started formally owning the island, not before.
Yeah it was basically stolen from the Ottoman Empire by the British in 1914
@KnowDude and the whole of Turkey's territory is stolen by the Turks from indigenous people (Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, etc) . Correct?
@@KnowDudeProceeds of War, Turkey backed the wrong side in WW1.
There is a good BBC interview with General Harding on RUclips.
@@johnsabini2330 The Ottomans actually always tried getting into the alliance with the Triple Entente, but were rejected because of Russian interests along the Turkish straits and British interests in the Middle East - therefore the stronger pro-british Ottoman elite (also Sultan Abdulhamid II. who was held captive in the Beylerbeyi Palace after a coup and the loss of Thessaloniki during the First Balkan War but still playing a major advisory role for the ruling junta) had no room to play anymore against the pro-german party of the Young Turks.
Cypriot here,a fun fact about Archbishop Makarios 3rd. After the independence in 1960, he as the President of the Cyprus took an active role with Marshall Tito to establish the Non-Aligned Movement. The US thought Cyprus was turning to Communism. As a result,the US newspapers branded him "CASTRO OF THE MEDITERRANEAN" and the British press called him "BLACK MAK" because of priest garments.
Wow, I didn't know that 😂
I very much enjoyed this episode. My mum was in Cyprus, as her father was stationed there in the late 50s and early 60s. She has nightmares to this day.
We do experience a daily nightmare here, just because her father was stationed here (with his peers) ..no pill or session can alter our lifes..
@@charalambosanaxagorou9806 I wish you, all of you, inner peace.
Good, keep having the nightmares, remember the fates you faced at the hands of EOKA ☦️🇬🇷😎
@@micheypatsa the British are an insurance policy against Turkish invasion. If the British weren’t on the island then Turkey would have taken the entire island.
@@captainhindsight8779 Youre deluded, see a doctor.
What is with the sudden influx of Cyprus content from all over RUclips?
@TheExplorer ooo, watch out for the nefarious Cypriot conspiracy!! 🤣😂 to some people everything is sus
sus amogus
@TheExplorer Cypriots don't have enough money or would never care to recruit all these youtubers. My assumption is that the majority of the world haven't even heard about Cyprus all this time despite its issue being very serious and tragic. Recently it became a hot topic again because of Turkey's provocations in the island's EEZ and the illegal re-opening of the Greek Cypriot city of Varosha (Famagusta) by Turks. So I wouldn't be surprised if many people around the world started getting curious about the country after that, asking their selves ''why is Cyprus in this position and how it got there?'' and researching for answers, many of whom, youtubers.
General Grivas, hmmm that sounds familiar.... 🤔
( Four lightsabers flash in the distance)
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Cyprus very underrated country I like Cyprus
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I lived 6 months in northern Cyprus. This video answered all my question about the history of Cyprus.
You mean the occupied north part of the republic of Cyprus
@@chris-qe4yc you need to dig deeper, but it's hard to accept the truth.
@@sstrielka Yeah sure. Turkey got its Taksim at the expense of the native Greeks - the overwhelming majority of the island's population - with the connivance of the Brits. Turks seem not to have qualms about living in other people's homes.
@@GeoBBB123 Taksim was as a counter offer to Enosis, greeks started all this shit, got owned and only thing left to do is to join EU and hope somebody will do smth about it. Turkish cypriots homes still stand abandoned on south side or given away to refugees from NORTH part of Cyprus, just because of huge corruption and bureaucracy on south side things are moving slowly slowly... MEanwhile proud cypriots cross to tha "bad" side for cheaoer shopping and holidays
@@GeoBBB123
Shouldn’t have massacred the Turks and staged a coup then.
congratulations this is a masterpiece.!!!! The most objective analysis I have ever read.
The bell button jokes are becoming more and more elaborate. Which is great.
Auxentiou was a true offspring of the ancient greek heros ! Μωλον Λαβέ
*Μολών Λαβέ
A real patriot.
Came for the comments...
Γειά σου Βαλάντη
@@apmoy70 Γειά σου Αποστόλη!
GMT's "The British Way: Counter Insurgency at the End of Empire" brought me here
Grivas has been taught in the guerrilla arts by count dooku
Cyprus has been Greek for millennia. Despite being occupied by turks for many years, Greek Cypriots managed to keep their language, religion and traditions.
That's exactly what I trying to write as a comment at the infamous Johnny Harris video on Cyprus! At that video Harris stated that the Greek cypriots and the Turkish cypriots were living together for MILLENNIA, which is absolutely false! The Greek cypriots were living in Cyprus for millennia but the Turkish cypriots settled in Cyprus from 1571 on, after the massive Ottoman Turkish military invasion of the island! Apparently, that kind of truth is not convenient to Johnny Harris and his eventual patrons, thus he is blatantly blocking any relative comment!
@@ThomasGazis this is the problem with every "geopolitical analyst" who puts two ethnic groups who are in conflict on the same level. It reminded me of this british writer (I don't remember his name) who put the armenians and the azerbaidjanis on the same level while completely forgetting the fact that the armenians lived in Nagorno Kharabagh far before the azerbaidjanis. Here it's exactly the same. Too many people are putting the greeks and the turks on the same level of "legitimacy". I haven't seen the video you're talking about, but it's probably the case
@@the_feedle here is Harris clearly biased video: ruclips.net/video/p7_TZagxjyk/видео.html
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Upon conquering Cyprus, General Grivas formed The Conderacy of Independent Systems.
Grivas conquered nothing, he used a hit and run tactic( more run than hit) even resorting to shooting women in the back
Cyprus: i finally have my independent
Turkey&Greece: you know the rules and so do i
Turkey: "More like...new management."
It is sad that greece betrayed is back then
Grivas was refered to several times in "Der moderne Kleinkrieg" by von der Heydte.
17:36 I dont think thats a good phrase given the context of the cold war.
'Cyprus is as much a part of Britain as Devon and Cornwall.' This was said in the House of Commons about the notion of independence, I can't remember who but surprised it didn't get a mention. My parents have retired to Cyprus, the next door neighbour was a former EOKA fighter. The island was given to Britain by the Ottomans as the price for halting the Russian advance on Istanbul in 1878.
"The island was given to Britain by the Ottomans"??? In what way it was "given"? The Greek - cypriots were living in the island for entire millennia! The Turkish - cypriots had settled in the island from 1571 CE on, after the massive Ottoman-Turkish military invasion of the island! Back in 1878 the Greek-cypriots were the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the island! So, under what law and under what justice was the island of Cyprus given to the British by the OTTOMAN TURKS? By the law of brute force and violence?
@@ThomasGazis Empires are not governed by consent so pretty much.yes to laws of violence etc.
Lol, this guy. Equates colonialism to some weird notion of possession. Nobody belongs to any country. Countries exist because someone who didn't speak the language of your ancestor or their customs conquered them with an army and forced your ancestors to speak their language and customs. Literally go study history. Germany and Italy didn't exist as countries until 150 years ago, and not everyone agreed to be a part of it, but guess what? They got conquered and don't get a say.
@@mrmr446 actions enforced by violence are not acceptable in a civilized humanity!
@@ThomasGazis Didn't claim anything was acceptable, all empires rule by violence, none should be celebrated and as much as possible they should be remembered in all the gory detail. Quite where you found approval among my words I have no idea.
Was expecting those open lines to be a tie-in to an ad at first.
Excellent video 📹
A sensitive, still emotional topic handled well.
We have both communities living on London.
Interesting video. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Love this video, gives me an insight into my heritage from all 3 sides
Agreed, this video is informative and neutral. What you mean by 3 sides? Greek Turkish and British?
@@Palios33
It's mostly pro-Greek by ignoring the fact that enosis meant the extermination of Turks.
@@ottoman_reenactor_ct mostly pro greek ( aka orthodox) also meant more than 80% of the whole population . Now I'm not saying that anyone has the right to exterminate but everyone has the right to fight for freedom and prosperity. At this island( I'm born and raised in beautiful Cy) freedom and prosperity of the two societies came into conflict and the British played a major role in that. You see Cyprus was inhabited by Greek tribes since the late bronze age, the ottomans arrived during the 1500s and the British late 19th century. Do you find it weird that the orthodox community felt oppressed and tried to repel other minorities? Although i already told you about my background i try to stay as much objective as i can on the matter due to my sociological studies
@@Palios33 I find it strange even though Greeks cry out about how they were oppressed for hundreds of years when the moment they get into power they go full Genocide mod.
@@Palios33 Do you find it weird that the Turkish community felt oppressed and tried to repel other minorities in Anatolia?
The title is very misleading
maybe he isnt good at history considering the British still have territory in Cyprus...
Its Cypriot territory that allows the UK to be there, unless youd want us to change that 😈😈😈
@@micheypatsa legally you cant change it your country signed on the dotted line its literally the reason the Turkish didn't dare touch the British territory when they invaded the North 😂!!
14:22 “annexation by turkey would be infeasible.”
Turkey: *Are you sure about that!?*
They meant annexing the whole island.
Yes theyre sure cause turkey still doesnt have the island.
@@micheypatsa They control half of it
@@maxschaeffner9005 They control 1/3 and that was by american/british intervention not anything else.
@@micheypatsa Neither does Greece so invasion by Turkey worked!
With the help of God, with faith in our honest struggle, with the support of all Hellenism and with the help of the Cypriots, we undertake the struggle to shake off the English yoke, with the motto that our ancestors left us: with your shield or on it
(From the EOKA proclamation of April 1, 1955, with the signature "EOKA, the Leader Digenis"
Thanks for sharing that historical declaration. Yet I consider their guerilla warfare more harm than good.
@@terracotta6294 yes my friend and at the same time no it depends from what side you look at it
What a legend General Grivas was ☦️🇬🇷😎
The reality is however that the only thing stopping the Turkish from invading is that they would have to cross the green zone to do so, and in process invade the SBA areas which would be an act of war against the UK. So the UK is a necessary “evil” for security.
Also during the covid lockdown, the British military contributed a significant amount to the local economy when tourism had ceased.
Unpopular opinion I know.
@@captainhindsight8779 They attacked the SBAs in 1974 and britain ran off and relied on the National Guard to save them but in return didnt help Cyprus but bombed a convoy of Commandos. So no, theyre not a neccessary evil, theyre just evil.
Can you do a video about the war between Somalia and Ethiopia? A Soviet diplomat said in his memoirs that the tragedy in Somalia was caused by the cold war
I was wondering what they gonna come up with this time, regarding the bell button.
There will be two bell buttons soon 😉
excellent work.
An amazing job regarding historical facts , outcomes and agendas of all sides specially the dark role of the British,, again well done K&G ,love from the still free part of the republic of Cyprus:) :)
dam the starting quote is fcking awesome B)
Your bell button outros get crazier every episode. I love it!!!!
Grivas a true Legend ... Peace to him and all Hellenes
We Wish to feature about the Turkish Invasion of Northern Cyprus
Turkish Intervention is a better explanation. Turkey reacted to the coup d'état of Greek Junta Regime in Cyprus trying to incorporate the island with Greece. As the guarantor of Republic of Cyprus Turkey acted to stop the annexation of the island. Which succeeded in its objective. If it was just a mere invasion Turkey would have seen punitive results for it. (Like it is seeing for comparatively much lighter actions now). Which it didn't. Greece left NATO military command as a protest to NATO letting Turkey intervene on the annexation while Turkey was on full military embargo by NATO.
Fun fact Cyprus's independence is actually guaranteed by both Turkey and UK but UK was hesitant on intervention. So Turkey did her part to her guarantee of Republic of Cyprus's independence alone.
@@yenimlt44 fun fact uk facilitated the invasion of northern cyprus. the first ones who should be ejected from the island are those british bases and then the turkish squatters.
@@yenimlt44 Ah yes that old chestnut. An "Intervention" that killed 6000 people and left 1619 persons missing, mostly people captured and sent to Turkey as POW's who disappeared without trace. Creating 200,000 refugees, with 1000s of rapes of even the youngest children to old men and women, displacing the local indigenous population from their ancestral homeland and filling it with Anatolian settlers from Turkey that even Turkey did not want and changing a country with a 12,000 year old history forever.
That's some brutal "intervention". There are no excuses for that.
For the Algorithm!
RIP trask
I am wondering if you guys will ever cover the various Indo-Pak wars
Cyprus has the highest espionage rate in the Mediterranean and middle east.
General Grivas, you're shorter than I expected.
Χαχαχαχχα!! You are watching "bir zamanlar" :))?!
Please do a part 2
Well done!
Fascinating!
Title a little misleading
Thank you. :)
"uk LeFt ColoNieS pEACeFullY"
English love to repeat this lie
They do WARS in order to secure PIECE...
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@@nomer9118 The do wars in order to secure resources and peace...ETERNAL PEACE for anyone except themselves 🤷♂️
@@NoName-hg6cc i know..
To understand the current conflict in Cyprus one has to understand that the majority of the population in the North before 1974 were Greek Cypriots. They were the majority both in the north and in the south. And thousands of Greek Cypriots owned most private properties there. This is why solutions based on a ''Turkish north'' are not accepted.
You should do a video on the black market of the USSR
Have we ?
85% of our tourists are British ..!
I musta missed that " day" in school. Thanks for sharing 👍
Do the Video about the Foundation of ASEAN
Came here from Johnny Harris, Uncharted!
Apparently, Johnny Harris is blocking any comment incovenient to his (or to his patrons') points of view!
Make a video on 1948 First Indo Pak war over Kashmir.
Well they didn't kick us out, we're still there by the fact we own Akrotiri and Dhekelia. And in fact, because we were there, stopped the Turkish from taking over the whole island
WHERE ARE THE PROMISED INDONESIA VIDEOS????
The trouble with the Cold War is that we're still living with its consequences. 😔
can you make a video about the Rhodesian Bush War
They never kicked out the brits from Cyprus they still own 3% of the island
The British did not lose. They got what they wanted. They wanted the bases and Greece nor Turkey to have them.
"Just press the the damned button".
Yet the British are still in Cyprus...
Seems like a very good deal for the British, they got to annex the land on which their bases are located, and they have absolutely no responsibility towards the native populations. A true win, while the Cypriots lost something like 5% of their very limited territory
It’s not only British that still have the (2) military bases. It’s also the United State accuse the government of explicitly encouraging the Greek coup and Turkish invasion in order to preserve three U.S. communications facilities and two British Sovereign Base Areas (SBA’s) established by treaty on the island.
@@A.Musa76 The Brits are full-fledged vassals of the American Empire. All their bases are American bases.
Cuban Missile Crisis and Cuban Revolution please
It is amazing that Castro became a communist only after the success of the revolution. In addition, as I know, Chinese in Cuba also participated in the Cuban revolution。✌︎( ᐛ )✌︎
Mr G the man who made the TRNC possible
“General Grivas” lmao
right? cough cough cough LMAO
when Angolan Civil War?
When did Britain withdraw their offer to Greece to give them Cyprus? Greece did join WWI in 1917, why not give it to them then if they had finally joined the war as Britain wanted them to?
For the same reason why Britian didn't give to the Arabs their independence from the Ottoman Empire when the Arabs helped them in WWI as well...
The Greek king had already rejected the offer in 1915
The greeks were in a civil war so they weren't in a stable position to accept the offer
The same reason why Ireland didn't got it's independence after ww1
Plus Greece got also the mandate of Smyrna ( modern day Ismir and the surrounding areas )
@@Pavlos_Charalambous which was useless because you have to deal with a hostile turkish population
British failsafe M.O.
'Let's bring in divide and rule chaps.'
Works every time lol 😆
Yup, even before returning HK in 1997, the Brits did the same to make things difficult for China.
@@CalvinK300 really..lol 😆
Memorise these words, Uighur, Tibet, Taiwan,
and you already know HK
@@beachboy0505 too many examples from the Western colonial period to give. Compared to USA, China is an amateur when it comes to exploitation.
@@CalvinK300 respect
@@beachboy0505 we British got an Air base in Cyprus
Who won what?...
I really appreciate this channel's effort and find their contents fairly objective in general. But this video is materially focuses on greek part of the story all too often and and taking one side clearly.
The empire strikes back? Where are the AT ATs?
This video heavily downplays the violence and murders by EOKA committed against Turkish Cypriots and Greek communists, but aside from that, it is pretty fine. The TMT didn't pop out of nowhere, but as a reaction to the anti-Turkish sentiment of EOKA during 1955-58.
How did the Ottomans take the island that was 90% Greek majority for 3500 years prior to their arrival? By being friendly?
Grivas, a nazi collaborator (founder of the fascist organization X), was rescued by the British in '44 during the battle of Athens, to fight them in the 50's. Historical irony.
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Grivas being a traitor during the Nazi occupation of Greece and then expecting to liberate Cyprus is so funny and ironic at the same time
Traitor? What do you mean?
@@apmoy70 idk. But reading these comments on here. They say he was with nazi Germany
@@SJ-nl6xl because they are uneducated morons .. grivas was the leader of organisation X that fought Nazis and communists ... They mainly fought Communists because they were more dangerous to the other rebel factions operating in Hellas, since the communist rebels fought and killed other rebels fighting the Nazis ...
@@apmoy70 He formed the Organisation X which mostly targeted the Greek resistance rather than the Nazi occupiers. Pretty ironic
@@dimitrisg45 The "communist" forces you are referring was the National Liberation Front (EAM) which accounted for 90% of the Greek resistance. Without EAM there is no resistance. Go learn history
The title is very misleading,perhaps even a lie. The british weren't kicked, they still occupy the bases, which is why they were on the island to begin with.
So you end up with a situation where brits still own their bases but dont have to govern the local population, in addition british influence is still strong and use the turks and greeks against one another to maintain their power.
They were kicked lol, you people think the SBAs are the UK, the only things the brits actually control are the bases themselves nothing outside of them.
@@micheypatsa Do you even speak english? I said above they only ever cared about the bases so there is no loss for them.
@@mojewjewjew4420 No they didnt lol they even said in the commons that they never planned on granting independence to Cyprus, lucky for us, a nutjob Colonel came and changed that.
@@micheypatsa Your gonna trust what they said in the commons after they gave you "independence"? Lmao.
@@mojewjewjew4420 You lost Cyprus, cry for all I care about and it was before. If youre gonna lie at least try make it sound believable.
why does no one mentionthe bloody christmas that eoka had on december 26,1963 ?
We got RAF Air base in Cyprus
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Greece: We want Eno-
Turkey: No.
@UCA__bCYW04vr74hWu4F1TVA you are literally iranian lmao
@@juliusevola2801 yes I'm making fun of it
@@juliusevola2801 Are you writing this while sitting on your couch in Europe while Mullahs are showing the world how "superior" your country is. Oh by the way: Did you know that thousands of Iranians are fleeing to Turkey right now? Why if you are so superior :o?
@@juliusevola2801 and you think you are Cyrus the Great hahaha pathetic
@@juliusevola2801 Even Greeks aren't indigenous to Anatolia, but ancient Anatolian people like Lydians and Hittites are. And I don't really care that Turks came here as conquerors. We conquered these areas with the legitimacy of the sword and I'm proud of that.
11:24 ;)
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Down with the empire!
and invited in the turks..
Unironically, they'd have got independance soon after regardless - without the turks invading after it. Ah well.
Love cyprus, have a home there (British national myself) and the place is amazing. Wish it went differently though.
I doubt the Brits would give us independence if the protests and EOKA fights didn't happen. Especially considering that they put Turks in the mix so the Greek Cypriots' focus would be somewhere else... you don't do that when you are thinking of letting a place go. Unfortunately, the Brits' failed strategic plans of holding Cyprus longer turned against the Cypriots quite some time after they left the island. It feels almost like they (Brits) have done it on purpose (the aftermath).
ENOSIS🇬🇷🇨🇾🇬🇷
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Thank you for a very objective and comprehensive coverage of a very complex issue. Important to note the Britain is a guarantor and under Article II of the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee requires the other parties to guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of Cyprus. Article IV reserves the right of the guarantor powers to take action to re-establish the current state of affairs in Cyprus. But Britain did zip all then and since to restore the territorial integrity of Cyprus following the 1974 Turkish invasion. Further Britain has little use for the bases on Cyprus and the US now uses them for its eastern Mediterranean intelligence gathering ops.
Rubbish. The British are still there. 2 SBA's, 2 more military sites outside the SBA's and a large number of UK citizens who have invested in property there.
Joke's on them. Win independence from Britain, give yourself up to Turkey instead. A very bitter joke.
We havent given up shit yet.
'Anti war and oppression' history videos sponsored by war games. Absurd!
Well done Cypriots!
Have we ..?
Kicked out the British ..! and .."welcome "..the Turks..!
Very biased video this, does not give the Turkish Cypriot viewpoint at all. Also, the British are still in Cyprus just in case you didn't know.
The Turkish-Cypriot viewpoint has been already "over-justified" by brute force and aggression, by the Turkish military invasion and occupation of Cyprus! So, let's allow this gentleman to be more sympathetic to the victims rather than the victimizers!
And as to the british thing, not for long, dont worry about that.
@@micheypatsa And what is that based on?
@@Xenin7 Dont worry about it.
The British government allowed Turkey invade Cyprus 🤷🏻♂️
France is on his way here with the aircraft carrier de Gaulle. Western Rome came to protect Eastern Rome. 🤩🤩🤩
British government allowed greeks to massacre turks
Turkish Intervention is a better explanation. Turkey reacted to the coup d'état of Greek Junta Regime in Cyprus trying to incorporate the island with Greece. As the guarantor of Republic of Cyprus Turkey acted to stop the annexation of the island. Which succeeded in its objective. If it was just a mere invasion Turkey would have seen punitive results for it. (Like it is seeing for comparatively much lighter actions now). Which it didn't. Greece left NATO military command as a protest to NATO letting Turkey intervene on the annexation while Turkey was on full military embargo by NATO.
Fun fact Cyprus's independence is actually guaranteed by both Turkey and UK but UK was hesitant on intervention. So Turkey did her part to her guarantee of Republic of Cyprus's independence alone. As a Turk I guess if UK intervened with Turkey against annexation attempt there wouldn't be any Turkish presence in the island today.
@@yenimlt44 there shouldn't be any presence of Turks in the island of Cyprus anyway! The Turks are not indigenous to this island! They settled in the Cyprus for the first time in 1571, after the Ottoman Turks militarily invaded - with a massive army - Cyprus, slaughtering thousands of Greeks and usurping their lands and properties!
And it is a cheap excuse to say that Turkey militarily invaded Cyprus - slaughtering once more thousands of Greek cypriots - simply because Greece was considering annexing Cyprus! The Turks were planning to militarily invade Cyprus and occupy it long before! They were just waiting for a good pretext!
In any case the Turkish military invasion and occupation of the northern Cyprus is illegal by the international law and that's the reason no country in the entire world is recognizing today the "Turkish Republic of North Cyprus" - but Turkey itself! Brute force and violence should not always trample what is considered just and fair (although that seems to be the Turkish dogma, ever since this people descended - as a Turkic people - from the Altay mongolian plateau and militarily occupied the Greek-Byzantine, Armenian, Kurdish lands they are living in today...)
@@ThomasGazis It is easy to use nationalistic exaggerations like you do. Turkey can never, ever occupy Cyprus in foreseeable future.
Cypriot Turks settled in 1751 doesn't make them alien to the island. Do you realize how many generations does it make? They have little to no connections to Turkey before the foundation of N. Cyprus Republic. I agree that Turkey should leave the island but not because island is owned by Greek Cypriots or Cypriot Turks.
Cyprus is all Cypriots' island. And whether you and I like it or not both sides of Cyprus are allies of Turkey.
And add, you shouldn't be so racist about Turks. You can't make the ancestors of a people as an excuse for treating them bad. I do realize N. Cyprus' independence is lessening in the rule of an autocrat these days but this doesn't mean it will continue this way. Whether todays government likes it or not Cyprus is long for reunification. N. Cyprus' people always says it out loud. Since they are a member of EU now, there are no possibility of annexation of Cyrus by any country left. So I do agree that Turkish guarantee has got expended by this point as long as the international community and the locals of the island stop looking their own people with racist ways like you did. Cypriot Turks didn't descend to the island from Altai Mountains, they are locals of the island by this time.
Most Greeks on Cyprus were actually refugees from the Greek-Turkish war 1919-1922 that the British had allowed to settle on the Island. The British were an ally of Greece, the only country to aid Greece during the 1941 Italian Invasion. In the Greek civil war 1944-46 Britain aided the Greek government. For the British it was a great surprise that the Greeks mounted a terrorist attack against them - a real stab in the back! True to form the Greeks ripped up all the agreements made on Independence and prepared for enossis. But not before the Turks in invaded 1974 and kicked Greek ass. The Greek "Liberator" Georgios Grivas the terrorist leader, actually killed more Greek Cypriots than British
''Most Greeks on Cyprus were actually refugees from the Greek-Turkish war 1919-1922 ''' No they weren't, the Greek Cypriots were already majority way before British colonialism ever step foot on the island after the Ottomans gave it to them. '' The British were an ally of Greece'''' HAHAHAHAHAH if Britain was an ally, with such ''allies'', who needs enemies. ''the only country to aid Greece during the 1941 Italian Invasion'' No you didn't, your help in 1940 was almost zero against Italy and when it came to the German invasion most of your troops abandoned Greece. '' In the Greek civil war 1944-46 Britain aided the Greek government.''' You dare to speak of the civil war my dear English-man?? There was no ''Greek government'', your a***hole Churchill established through a direct invasion of Greece in December 1944 a government consisted of unelected former nazi collaborators and through the white terror established your foreign king as well. Your beloved Churchill said to Ronald Scobie to treat Greece as ''conquered land'' despite the victory we offered YOU during the WW2 and you have the audacity to speak of back-stabbing. Your whole history of ''British relationship towards Greece'' from 19th century to the 20th century is nothing but a continuous backstabbing and colonialism against Greece, like the whole rest of the planet. '' But not before the Turks in invaded 1974 and kicked Greek ass.'' Oh wait you can also be a Turk. Yes sure you ''kicked-ass'' by slaughtering unarmed civilians, women and children if that's how your ''civilization'' defines as ''victories''. Because Cyprus had already been demilitarised by Greece some years ago through the treaty of Inonu with Pipinelis during the CIA-colonel's dictatorship of Greece. ''actually killed more Greek Cypriots than British'' Yeah say that to yourself, you might convince him. Even British wrote about EOKA's heroic struggles with admiration!!