Novocherkassk Massacre 1962 - Soviet Army vs People

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  • @PikaPower131313
    @PikaPower131313 3 года назад +281

    USSR: WORKERS UNITE!
    *workers actually unite*
    USSR: you weren’t supposed to do that

    • @Wolfboy183
      @Wolfboy183 2 года назад +18

      "Work hard and eat less!"

    • @Brian6587
      @Brian6587 Год назад +2

      😂sad but true

  • @b.elzebub9252
    @b.elzebub9252 3 года назад +206

    ''Comrade commander, I don't see any enemies to attack with tanks.''
    A brave and righteous man to be sure.

    • @oldegrunt5735
      @oldegrunt5735 3 года назад +17

      and he paid for it...but he didn't have the deaths of the people who was supposedly protecting on his conscious at least...I bet his troopers blessed him for that

    • @kaibotski4939
      @kaibotski4939 3 года назад +2

      Comrade.. I don't speak Russian. Today is June 4th the new liberation of the people's republic!! On ward!!!!

  • @agustintrivino9365
    @agustintrivino9365 3 года назад +418

    Gotta respect Shaposhnikov, refusing to follow orders and then leaking details of the massacre so that the world would know, both very serious things in a place like good ol USSR

    • @jasonkinzie8835
      @jasonkinzie8835 3 года назад +28

      Very brave man!

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +49

      He lived up to his title of "Hero of the Soviet Union". A man of the people!

    • @изиимя
      @изиимя 3 года назад +4

      Thank God there was nothing like this in the USA !

    • @JPT1965
      @JPT1965 3 года назад +13

      @@изиимя yet

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 3 года назад +19

      @@изиимя Instead you got civil unrest during the Crisis Years starting from 1929, with factory owners hiring armed thugs to fire at protesting workers.
      Worker unions on the other hand, employed mobsters to protect them against those armed thugs.
      Then there was the Bonus Army, army veterans who demanded their bonuses earlier because of the hard time they had hit and they marched en masse to Washington D.C. in late July 1932. The American government responded by ordering the army to evacuate the protesting veterans' camp with tanks and armed soldiers. Officially, two were killed and fifty five wounded, though the numbers may have been suppressed also.

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 года назад +402

    Andrei Amalrik once wrote:
    "Any state forced to devote so much of its energies to physically and psychologically controlling millions of its own subjects could not survive indefinitely"

    • @frankieseward8667
      @frankieseward8667 3 года назад +31

      And we're seeing that in Britain. Trying to keep the masses occupied whilst things are falling apart. Only a matter of time before it collapses.

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 3 года назад +31

      Isn’t this exactly what’s happening across most crapitalist countries today where liberals and conservatives are having a relentless culture war in an attempt to distract from the real war between classes ? Between the third world and imperialism ? Between science and profitable lies ?

    • @_manks5474
      @_manks5474 3 года назад +18

      @@cezarcatalin1406 no because the state are not expending tons of resourses and men to keep it under control and these cuture war are not to overthrow the sistem but to change it.

    • @WillN2Go1
      @WillN2Go1 3 года назад +16

      ​@@cezarcatalin1406 Good point. The most powerful tool of control is ignorance. The 'Culture War' is imaginary. (Supposedly I'm on one side of it, but I don't agree with most of what 'my side' thinks, yet we get along. The real 'War' is truth against ignorance. People who accept what is true still have myriad ways of thinking about it. The ignorant have replaced thinking with triggers.)
      In the U.S. we have an under and middle class that have more weapons that most armies in the world, more attitude and aggression than most countries in full revolt and declining standards of living for these people: they are more overweight, less healthy, chronic pain, shorter life expectancy, less opportunity and they know it. But what do they do? Worship Trump (who thinks they're disgusting), spend countless hours worrying about imaginary conspiracies (Q-Anon, believe Covid is fake - though their communities are impacted more than others because people who have been vaccinated (Trump, Fox News) tell them they shouldn't be, and when they do turn violent it's more than likely inward: most gun deaths in the U.S. are suicides, violence is domestic- against women and children, or random - against coworkers, other drivers, petty beefs - shooting a neighbor.)
      One classic problem of dictatorships was cited in the KGB reports. "We're told the BBC is spreading false propaganda, but then it turns out to be true." The truth is the most powerful tool for everything - except when you want to keep other people repressed. So what do you do about Americans and Brits who have access to any source of information they want? In America you feed them conspiracies, in the U.K. you rely on deep seated feelings of inferiority. When someone says, "The poshes think they're better'n us," they're actually embracing this. In the UK I'd have been a chave, "We don't need no education." In the U.S. I had to wade out of ignorant nonsense, but I quickly saw that the most subversive thing I could do is embrace reality.
      What no American (or Brit) can probably even imagine is that there is plenty of wealth to go around. No one should be poor, there is absolutely no societal benefit from poverty. Want to make your country wealthy? Guarantee a middle class life style to everyone. The mega-wealthy will have to pay taxes. I pay more taxes then Jeff Bezos or Amazon. How does that make any sense? (In Woody Allen's Bananas his character found himself in charge of a Latin American revolution, he announced that they would be like Sweden (and the national language would then be Swedish) - in the joke is some truth. Strong men arrive and say, "We will be a powerful nation!" and then they steal everything they can ('Marxist' Daniel Ortega?) How about a revolution who's goal is, "We will be like the Netherlands!" Turkey wants to be in the EU, but their dictator doesn't want to be like the EU.

    • @billhanna2148
      @billhanna2148 3 года назад +7

      Chinese Communist Party yeah hold my wonton soup 😂🤣🤓

  • @Qin_Lee
    @Qin_Lee 3 года назад +174

    I am from Russia and i have to say my grandparents said that is main reason why Kruschev was one of the most hated leader of USSR after Gorbachev by people opinion.

    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 3 года назад +28

      What about Stalin?

    • @Qin_Lee
      @Qin_Lee 3 года назад +37

      @@BHuang92 old school Soviet people who was born in time of ww2 and right after said that is great stability. But Brezhnev is G O.A.T to 80% of Soviet people. Even nowdays old people and my parents really love Brezhnev era

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 3 года назад +11

      @@BHuang92 many like lenin and stalin cause they made soviet at its peak. They don't care about killings

    • @Qin_Lee
      @Qin_Lee 3 года назад +42

      @@ShubhamMishrabro My grandparents hate Lenin because he killed Tsar family and my grand grandmother said that people know this after end of Russian civil war but that was so cruel time and everyone was scared of Checka Чекисты when ww1 looked like clown fest to Russian people if you compare to the civil war (10 million people died because of revolution.) So Stalin somehow managed to get peace in USSR after ww2

    • @ShubhamMishrabro
      @ShubhamMishrabro 3 года назад +21

      @@Maryland_Kulak cause he was the reason for ussr breaking up. People who still like ussr hate him for that

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 3 года назад +99

    "The massacres will continue until morale improves."

    • @dpelpal
      @dpelpal 5 месяцев назад +2

      Kind of like Russia today lol

  • @geronimozarza8495
    @geronimozarza8495 3 года назад +474

    Soviet Union is literally the "You have been rescued pls do not resist" meme.

    • @diegobotto6245
      @diegobotto6245 3 года назад +12

      Lol

    • @thaneofwhiterun3562
      @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +11

      Holy sh$t I laughed out loud XD

    • @Black-Sun_Kaiser
      @Black-Sun_Kaiser 3 года назад +9

      No thats the united states and Britain, no one was under any illusions about what the soviet was there for.
      No one.

    • @thaneofwhiterun3562
      @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +40

      @@Black-Sun_Kaiser
      r/whoosh

    • @christopherconard2831
      @christopherconard2831 3 года назад +60

      Troops that were sent to Czechoslovakia were told they were going to save locals (who would welcome them) from foreign counter-revolutionaries. They were genuinely confused when there were no foreigners and the local Czechs were less than welcoming.

  • @KiraC-q8g
    @KiraC-q8g 3 года назад +73

    Loved the "Make sausage out of Khrushchev" poster at 11:23.
    Eagerly waiting for episodes on the dissident movement, keep up the great work!

    • @uncletimo6059
      @uncletimo6059 3 года назад +5

      hahah khruscheva na kolbasy

    • @ZaJaClt
      @ZaJaClt 3 года назад +3

      Khruchev was a great workaholic, when they took him out of politics via a coup, man spent his last years going man from having too much free time, he wasnt in any corruption scandals where hed try to enrich himself that i know about, alot of shortages were duento everybody stealing, to steal meat a truckdriver would empty his water from the trucks radiator, about 50litres before weighing up, later on you remove as much meat as you could replace the total lpad weight with, thats just one example, the people making stuff like salamy and bologna, would throw toilet roll into the meat grinders to cover what they stole, its ridiculous

    • @karlmuller3690
      @karlmuller3690 3 года назад +1

      @@ZaJaClt - I hope it was unused toilet paper they were throwing into
      the Sausages and Bologna they were making!! ... Or maybe, they like
      to add a little bit of "spice" to the ordinary, everyday Soviet Citizen's life!!

    • @ZaJaClt
      @ZaJaClt 3 года назад +2

      @@karlmuller3690 no just like to bulk up, if you shat in food people would kill you if they knew

    • @karlmuller3690
      @karlmuller3690 3 года назад

      @@ZaJaClt - Oh yes I know what you mean, to make up for lost weight, but
      I'm just trying to make a joke, really.
      Anyway, you have a good day mate. And
      greetings from Australia!!

  • @varana
    @varana 3 года назад +290

    The workers of NEVZ using the model of the workers' struggle against capitalist oppressors to organise their own struggle against oppressors is top notch irony.
    "Ivan ... are _we_ the baddies?" - some Party official, probably. :D

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +28

      Not at all surprised. Lenin did the same with the Kronstadt rebellion back in the 1920's. It just highlights the disconnect between the Soviets to Commienism as an ideology and the strong connection to authoritarianism which Russia has been under for roughly 900 years. As Andrew Ryan said: "Same lie, different liar"...

    • @erfgtdsfsdf6993
      @erfgtdsfsdf6993 3 года назад +25

      Commies never liked workers, most of original communists in Russia (involving Lenin himself) were red intellectuals who despised of working class - as Solzhenitsyn pointed out well in his Gulag Archipelago. You can see where this evolved in North Korea - country is led by group of bureaucrats (roughly 10% of population) who live well and occupy themselves mostly with governing the rest of 90% population whom they dispise as garbage and second (if not third) class citizens (as sad by NK refugees in South Korea). Thats basicly how Orwell described all of these communist regimes. I guess thats what Chruschov meant by "real communism".

    • @reserva120
      @reserva120 3 года назад

      @@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 What Soviet ( translates to other movements ) Communism nation around the world over the past 100 years of Socialist slaughtering people everywhere do you think does???

    • @JCDenton3
      @JCDenton3 3 года назад +9

      @@erfgtdsfsdf6993 Which applies to much of the modern left in the West. So many "intellectuals" I went to college with espoused views supporting the workers, and then in the next breath went on to make jokes about just about every group of poor people in the states especially rural whites. I figure their attitudes and opinions are a guilt reaction to offset the fact they come from very privileged backgrounds in most cases - but they don't actually love these people and want to keep their superior standing. It's like the unpious churchgoer who feels tossing a few bucks in the alms platter on holidays will save their souls.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад +1

      @@JCDenton3 Yeah, I can relatively agree with that. It seems no matter the ideology, the wealthy and intellectual tends to look down their noses against the poor.

  • @leogazebo5290
    @leogazebo5290 3 года назад +172

    Who would win? The well-armed and well-trained Soviet Army or Unarmed People protesting from declining living standards and food shortage... Well, this isn't a YA fantasy so the army duh.

    • @narsimhas1360
      @narsimhas1360 3 года назад +3

      lol

    • @Qin_Lee
      @Qin_Lee 3 года назад +20

      @@joshuacondell1686 As a Russian i would say if my boy Nikita didn't fucked up the economy because of his love of corn people didn't go to protest because first ring was increased meat price and milk products

    • @henktwerda291
      @henktwerda291 3 года назад +8

      As soon as it becomes clear that the police and the army are going to obey their orders and shoot at the people to crush the revolt, it is clear who is going to win. But that is often the question in the beginning. If general Matvey Shaposhnikovhad gotten his way the army would not have shot at the protesters.

    • @Qin_Lee
      @Qin_Lee 3 года назад +6

      @@joshuacondell1686 Agred. Brezhnev always been humble and chill dude Golden era of USSR when people of Soviet Union didn't fear tomorrow

    • @vuktodic1356
      @vuktodic1356 3 года назад +9

      Unarmed guy:I demand my righ...
      *Gets shot*
      Well trained soviet soldier: OUR rights

  • @KiraC-q8g
    @KiraC-q8g 3 года назад +84

    I probably shouldn't be as excited about an episode about a massacre as I am about this one. Thank you, guys!
    One detail I remember from a description of the massacre is how older workers, being veterans of WW2, dropped to the ground when the soldiers started shooting and started crawling away, just like they learned to do when fighting against the Nazis - but now it were their own shooting at them.

  • @thaneofwhiterun3562
    @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +128

    Khrushchev being called the Cornlord is something I've never heard of before. But it's definitely something I'm gonna start doing XD.

    • @The84336
      @The84336 3 года назад +10

      I think what he was called was "kukuruznik", which roughly can be translated as "corn freak" (kukuruza=corn in Russian). Doesn't sound quite as dignified

    • @thaneofwhiterun3562
      @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +4

      @@The84336 That's insane! XD. *The Khrushchev-nicknames multiverse grows further*

    • @zsg87
      @zsg87 3 года назад +5

      @@thaneofwhiterun3562 "kukuruznik" - Agricultural and utility aircraft Antonov An-2

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +7

      Please, don't settle in life. Find someone who looks at you the same way Khrushchev looks at corn!

    • @davidbush8765
      @davidbush8765 3 года назад +9

      I spent one semester in the USSR as a student in 1970. While hanging out with Russian students after dinner one evening, they asked me what kind of food I liked, and being from the mid-West, I answered "Corn!". One Russian student replied: "Oh! We used to have that under Khrushchev, but now that he's gone we don't have to like it any more."

  • @TheHypnogog
    @TheHypnogog 2 года назад +7

    This was actually pretty balanced reporting, great job exploring the issues.

  • @pacather
    @pacather 3 года назад +64

    Have you ever thought of writing a curriculum or study guide for teachers or home schoolers?
    It would be a great hit. Your channel is so great!

  • @chronosx7
    @chronosx7 3 года назад +49

    Remeber, "it was necessary to protect the people"

    • @mdmarko
      @mdmarko 3 года назад +10

      Like the COVID-19 lockdowns...

    • @themediumcheese
      @themediumcheese 3 года назад +24

      @@mdmarko not even remotely similar

    • @rafimuhammadzakaria482
      @rafimuhammadzakaria482 3 года назад +8

      People = Party Officials

    • @1nsaniel
      @1nsaniel 3 года назад +4

      @@cheetocatto01 how can you prove no deaths were prevented?

    • @michaelwarenycia7588
      @michaelwarenycia7588 Год назад

      @@themediumcheese very similar. I say this from Ukraine. All the worst tyrannies in modern history are justified by the excuse of public safety.

  • @StevenB42096
    @StevenB42096 3 года назад +29

    Such an interesting topic, thanks for all of the work guys!

  • @kazakhdoge1822
    @kazakhdoge1822 3 года назад +92

    There is a Russian movie called "Dear Comrades!" that was made recently.

    • @grahambuckerfield4640
      @grahambuckerfield4640 3 года назад +13

      The 2010 book 'Red Plenty' by Francis Spufford also covers it, like other chapters it uses real people, plus a few created characters as narrators, in this case the dialogue between Kozlov sent from Moscow with Mikoyan and the hapless factory boss is like something from the TV political satires 'Veep' and 'The Thick Of It', not to mock the events and the tragic ending but to illustrate, the comment about eating liver pies is in there.

    • @scottrice370
      @scottrice370 3 года назад +9

      Saw the movie it was great, it was on VUDU!

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +2

      Clips from that movie were also used in this video.

    • @kir6688
      @kir6688 3 года назад +1

      Some of the footage used in this video is from that film actually

  • @lishiping84
    @lishiping84 3 года назад +34

    15:27 CCP didn't learn this lesson until 1989. But of course, in 1961 they are busying at a great leap forward. They wouldn't believe that they would need this lesson.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 3 года назад +18

      The CCP is one of the most soulless, cold, calculating parties on earth. They're like Nazis if Hitler had some sense of subtlety, only the CCP has killed far more people and they've managed to convince the US and EU to bend over for them. Hitler had some support in the US before the IS joined WW2 but he could never get presidents to bend over and drop their pants for him like the CCP has

    • @rafimuhammadzakaria482
      @rafimuhammadzakaria482 3 года назад +5

      Nothing ever happened in Tiananmen Square 1989 :3

    • @DZ477
      @DZ477 3 года назад +6

      Doesn't look like CCP wants to learn. Great Leap Forward resulted in the death of 40 million people but Mao's picture is still in every Chinese classroom.

    • @dannycardona211
      @dannycardona211 3 года назад +1

      @@arthas640 🤡

    • @JudicialBrat
      @JudicialBrat 3 года назад +1

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  • @229masterchief
    @229masterchief 3 года назад +48

    Tankies be like: "This atrocity wouldn't happen under Stalin!"

    • @babayaga6376
      @babayaga6376 Год назад

      I don't think Stalin would be the example they would use...perhaps they would go for the Lenin example. The problem with that example is this though...m.ruclips.net/video/6TK9c-caEcw/видео.html&pp=ygUpQmVydHJhbmQgcnVzc2VsIG9uIGhpcyBtZWV0aW5nIHdpdGggbGVuaW4%3D

  • @uncletimo6059
    @uncletimo6059 3 года назад +4

    Thank You for making this history live.

  • @ekmalsukarno2302
    @ekmalsukarno2302 3 года назад +79

    The Cold War, can you please make a video on South Africa and its role during the Cold War. Thank you very much.

  • @darrellscholl1651
    @darrellscholl1651 3 года назад +109

    Brave Russian protesters. Organizing disorder is a funny sounding charge.

    • @thaneofwhiterun3562
      @thaneofwhiterun3562 3 года назад +10

      That's one hell of an Oximoron

    • @comradekenobi8146
      @comradekenobi8146 3 года назад +2

      @@thaneofwhiterun3562 It's probably the equivalent of "instigating a riot" in the US.

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +1

      It's referred to as "hooliganism" and covers all sorts of unwanted behavior.

  • @petermendoza1170
    @petermendoza1170 Год назад +1

    This was excellent. Thank you.

  • @chilesauce7248
    @chilesauce7248 3 года назад +3

    Most interesting, thank you Cold War team.

  • @vinodde8908
    @vinodde8908 3 года назад +17

    Imagine what would had happened to protestors if Stalin would had been in power .

    • @wwlb4970
      @wwlb4970 3 года назад +20

      Modern day Soviet-lovers would say this is all Western lies :D

    • @terrypennington2519
      @terrypennington2519 3 года назад +4

      We probably would've never even heard of it even after the collapse of the USSR

    • @НиколайКазанский-м7я
      @НиколайКазанский-м7я 3 года назад +3

      Stalin wouldn't have let things go as fas as armed clashes with people.

    • @joelmalone7922
      @joelmalone7922 2 года назад

      How many protests happened during Stalin's rule? I've never read of any happening and I'm not saying that because I think he was a dear comrade who was saintly and beloved by all. Fear ruled the Soviet Union then.

    • @qespenasenko6399
      @qespenasenko6399 4 месяца назад

      @@joelmalone7922 во время коллективизации были тысячи восстаний и протестов, они давились армией

  • @uzairahmed8309
    @uzairahmed8309 3 года назад +4

    Great video

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy9616 3 года назад +16

    That took some real courage. To go up against a regime that willingly starved and sacrificed its own people for decades had to be terrifying.

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +6

      It was not against regime dont fool yourself.

    • @gnas1897
      @gnas1897 3 года назад +7

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich and it didn't starve or "sacrifice" its people

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +2

      @@gnas1897 nope. But you cant escape judgement. If you break the law (espacially in those desperate times when country struggles to survive) you will get what you deserved. This channel never provide you real criminal cases of prisoners (what they actually did). All they need it's just ask russian FSB.

    • @gnas1897
      @gnas1897 3 года назад

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich exactly

  • @Brian6587
    @Brian6587 Год назад

    Never heard of this before! I’ve always been interested in Cold War History but never heard of this so thank you for sharing!

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard2831 3 года назад +5

    I pretend to pay the bell button, it pretends to work.

  • @Springbok295
    @Springbok295 3 года назад +6

    The Polish ZOMO massacred Polish citizens in 1970 during a strike at Gdansk. I'm not certain how many innocent civilians had been murdered by the Polish Interior Ministry Troops.

  • @Zebred2001
    @Zebred2001 3 года назад +12

    Are you trying to suggest that the U.S.S.R. wasn't a "workers paradise?"

  • @deanbuss1678
    @deanbuss1678 3 года назад +1

    A rather timely episode, that gives me some good perspective.👍

  • @frankperez1953
    @frankperez1953 Год назад +2

    Thanks for bringing up the events of the anti-labor uprisings and reprisals. The Cossacks have suffered immense repression!

  • @yossarianmnichols9641
    @yossarianmnichols9641 3 года назад +25

    Yes, the US had their own political protests in the 60s. Yes, the US occupied major cities with the National Guard. Detroit is one example. The difference is the US had a free press and it covered these events in a way that did not protect those in power.

    • @glennbeiling3580
      @glennbeiling3580 3 года назад

      Ehhhhhhhhh

    • @johnmontoya8160
      @johnmontoya8160 3 года назад +7

      not anymore. the press supports authoratarianism now and is biased against capitalism

    • @terrypennington2519
      @terrypennington2519 3 года назад +1

      @@johnmontoya8160 Which I find very ironic

    • @basil7292
      @basil7292 3 года назад +7

      @@johnmontoya8160 no they are capitalists, cope

  • @benkamelmayssem5780
    @benkamelmayssem5780 3 года назад

    good work as always!

  • @Niinsa62
    @Niinsa62 Год назад

    Good video. Never heard about this before.

  • @westrim
    @westrim 3 года назад +20

    12:20 It's worth noting for the modern day, THIS is why the Capitol Police were so reluctant to use lethal force at any point on January 6th (something I have seen questioned ad infinitum by people who have no understanding of riots), even when being swarmed and beaten. They knew full well that close in like that, once any shot was fired, dozens would die on all sides. The lone shot fired was ultimately in an isolated corridor to protect a final fallback position under siege, and thankfully didn't spread and further inflame the mob.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 года назад +3

      It would make sense that the US security apparatus would learn from its own mishaps like the 1970 Kent State U shooting...

    • @danditto6145
      @danditto6145 3 года назад +4

      Shooting an unarmed person in the face proves you are a police state; whether in the U.S. or U.S.S.R.
      That is the type of behavior the U.S. Constitution was meant to prevent.

    • @mke1110
      @mke1110 3 года назад +2

      @@danditto6145 it was a perfect shot. They were roaming the hallways looking for Pence and Pelosi, and this nutcase breaks a window and then what? What in the world was her intention? Nah, this was a perfect shot

    • @westrim
      @westrim Год назад +1

      @@haikujim1202 There is a 100% chance you've commented elsewhere in your life on how unjust it was that someone was arrested after killing a burglar breaking in.

  • @martinwajda
    @martinwajda 3 года назад +8

    USSR was a real workers paradise!lol

  • @TheHouseAlwaysWins20
    @TheHouseAlwaysWins20 Год назад +1

    "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than other" - George Orwell

  • @alanirunner
    @alanirunner 3 года назад +2

    Wow what a wonderful and cool video! Leaving a comment for engagement cos im too lazy to provide actual commentary
    ps actually an extremely important event that MOST russians dont know about, not talking about the west
    needs to be talked about more

  • @jaquelinesm6105
    @jaquelinesm6105 3 года назад +6

    Realmente admiro tu trabajo 😊

  • @johngorentz6409
    @johngorentz6409 Год назад

    I see you used some clips from Однажды в Ростове for this. Good!

  • @kir6688
    @kir6688 3 года назад +1

    nice Soviet Encyclopedic Dictionary you have there. That book is so huge actually, compared to other books, i remember it used as the weight to keep together stuff you wanted to glue, and place to dry leafs for the herbarium.

  • @paulosabib
    @paulosabib 3 года назад +3

    10:09 What is the movie you were playing in the background?

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +1

      It's from "Dear, Comrades" released last year. It's a good movie.

    • @paulosabib
      @paulosabib 3 года назад +1

      Ty!

  • @dinklehimerschlitz9111
    @dinklehimerschlitz9111 3 года назад

    great video.

  • @sergeylitvinenko6785
    @sergeylitvinenko6785 3 года назад +1

    great doc, thanks! some scenes are mirrored, as we can see letters read right to left. I am surprised by high resolution of scenes, are they actual kgb surveilance films or re-enactment of modern days?

  • @plamendrumev6055
    @plamendrumev6055 3 года назад +7

    Can you make a video about Bulgaria in the Cold War?

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 3 года назад +3

      In the UK, the only thing Bulgaria was known for in the Cold War was poisoned umbrellas and the murder of Georgi Markov in London.

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 3 года назад +2

      And perhaps, suspicion of involvement with Mehmet Ali Agca and the shooting of the Pope.

  • @HamBones13
    @HamBones13 3 года назад +1

    Hello so glad to have found your channel!!! Do you have any information on American prisoners of war transferred to or even captured in the Soviet Union? It’s a topic of interest for me

  • @zsg87
    @zsg87 3 года назад +14

    Can you tell us about the demonstration in March 1956 (also known as the riots in Tbilisi in 1956 or the massacre on March 9) in the Georgian SSR?

  • @shlomomarkman6374
    @shlomomarkman6374 3 года назад +20

    This incident had significant repercussions that influenced the economic policies till the fall of USSR and contributed to the fall.
    The incident caused the central planners to be very reluctant in raising prices creating some form of social contract in which prices should be frozen at all cost.
    That fact doomed any reform to failure as raising wages only increased the shortages, there could also be no incentive to raise production of non-military goods including food.
    Gradually over the years the lines got longer and stores emptier while prices remained constant, petrodollars covered some of the difference till 1986, then there was a Venezuela style situation since the winter of 89-90 that was one of the causes of the final collapse.

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +2

      I guess you have proofs otherwise it's just bold statement.

    • @zsg87
      @zsg87 3 года назад +1

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich у Сафронова есть ролик по этой теме, советую

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад

      @@zsg87 это который исследует плановую экономику в СССР?

    • @zsg87
      @zsg87 3 года назад

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich да

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад

      @@zsg87 это вот этим вот надо советовать, любителям страшилок про злого Сталина и тоталитарный СССР.

  • @Ashi8No8Yubi
    @Ashi8No8Yubi 3 года назад +14

    Governments ruled by people with a lack on morality, empathy and humility will be a plague on this earth until the end. Socialism is not conducive towards freedom, but even democracy can be terrible if the people have none of these traits. If people can't learn to accept and love unconditionally and follow basic humane precepts, this kind of sufferering will never end.

    • @czaralexander5156
      @czaralexander5156 3 года назад

      Tell me what government cares about their people your telling me theirs rich politicians that care about their citizens then your delusional every government in this world is corrupt just some more corrupt then others politicians just act like they care to get some votes deep inside
      They look at you and think your a stupid peasant and they make a bunch of false promises just to get your votes and stupid people still keep on voting.

  • @chad12345678
    @chad12345678 3 года назад +19

    Would love some videos on the gulag uprisings and revolts during Stalin times.

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +4

      Interesting theme but i doubt this channel would dig into deep finding that gulag prisoners had salaries like usual free workers.

    • @Scurge237
      @Scurge237 3 года назад

      Same I wanna hear about the vory and the bitch wars.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад +3

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich - Sure, and it was plenty of money for Gulag inmates to buy themselves a balanced healthy diet, nice clothes and a car 🤣😂😅

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 3 года назад +2

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich - Oh, I forgot about the seaside holiday and regular discotheques 💃🏼🕺🏻

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +1

      @@sirrathersplendid4825 yup. Some ppl could even leave the camp. Learn russian and read goddam documents.

  • @UserNameMandatory
    @UserNameMandatory 3 года назад +3

    The footage shown was from a movie based on these events? What is it called?

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +1

      It's "Dear, Comrades" from 2020. I can recommend it.

    • @UserNameMandatory
      @UserNameMandatory 2 года назад +1

      @@TheCimbrianBull 'дорогие товарищи' I will look it up. Thank you.

  • @kathleenann631
    @kathleenann631 3 года назад +1

    i wish all comments re vids were as thought provoking as these. Thks to all of u. Wishing all a safe and happy yr in 2022.

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 3 года назад +4

    7:46 I think this Mikoyan is the older bro of the famed airplane designer.

    • @stormtrooper9404
      @stormtrooper9404 3 года назад

      You as well might be right!
      I have heard a stories at how MiG got the contracts with the Soviet Goverment altough their designs and ultimately planes were inferior to the ones of their main competitor Sukhoi!
      There are probably material for whole series as to how Soviet military budget as well as the economy of the whole country was being wrongfully and willfully spent.

  • @thatsjohn3938
    @thatsjohn3938 3 года назад +1

    Very Well Done

  • @wtfbuddy1
    @wtfbuddy1 3 года назад +5

    Nice video - they had to pay for their 78 Nuclear tests or Operation Anadyr later in 1962 and butter was they key to raise money. Terrible no one wanted to explain why prices were going up and quota's increased, easier to sell an increase when supported by an outcome. Amazing the KGB/NKVD kept records of the event. Cheers

  • @pscwplb
    @pscwplb 3 года назад +4

    is the footage from the 2020 movie about the Novocherkassk massacre?

  • @c.w.johnsonjr6374
    @c.w.johnsonjr6374 3 года назад +11

    The Soviet Government: We are creating a workers paradise for the people.
    Factory Workers: We're the people too.
    The Soviet Government: Ivan, get the tanks.
    Serious, this deserve movie like Peterloo.

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 3 года назад +1

      Film about stupidity of one man who dont know anithing about economy? LMAO. Stop belive in fairy tales. Learn russian and go to archives, read books or smthn.

    • @gnas1897
      @gnas1897 3 года назад

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich fr tho, factory and industrial workers had the best life

    • @kayvan671
      @kayvan671 3 года назад

      @@Pvt.Conscriptovich
      Oh look at that.
      A little Commie.
      Thank God, Communism doesnt exist anymore here in Europe.

    • @terrypennington2519
      @terrypennington2519 3 года назад +1

      @@gnas1897 Factory and industrial worker BOSSES, sure.

    • @gnas1897
      @gnas1897 3 года назад

      @@terrypennington2519 there were no bosses in the USSR

  • @jlvfr
    @jlvfr 3 года назад +6

    "Vhrushchev for meat"... wow...

  • @tfgrconus
    @tfgrconus Год назад +1

    The musical score in the background: where else have I heard it? It is so familiar.

  • @WehrmachtKradschutzen
    @WehrmachtKradschutzen 3 года назад +6

    This should be shown in schools because I don’t understand why people want this to happen

    • @basil7292
      @basil7292 3 года назад

      ok "Wehrmacht Kradschutzen"

    • @WehrmachtKradschutzen
      @WehrmachtKradschutzen 3 года назад

      @@basil7292 it’s sad you don’t see the irony of my name being funny

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад

    Interesting video.

  • @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971
    @homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971 3 года назад +5

    The Russian military vs civilians, a grudge match as old as time itself.
    I wonder what the score is right now.

  • @scottsanders5821
    @scottsanders5821 3 года назад +1

    This series is extremely informative and much needed here in the US. However I am still not used to the tight closeup angle in which the host is not looking into the camera. It sort of seems like a disjointed "floating" head. If you want to offer an alternative shot to break things up, you might instead use a medium shot from a second angle and at an appropriate moment, dissolve to it from the long master shot as the host shifts his gaze into the 2nd camera. Do svidaniya!

    • @martkbanjoboy8853
      @martkbanjoboy8853 2 года назад

      It fits. He is talking about the world of 1945-1992ish. His set & the low definition vid quality is appropriate.

  • @JLRoberson
    @JLRoberson 2 года назад

    So what film is the b/w riot footage from? I want to track this film down.

  • @LocalHeretic-ck1kd
    @LocalHeretic-ck1kd 3 года назад +6

    11:15 Same here. This reminded me of Bloody Sunday from 1905 as well.

  • @meejinhuang
    @meejinhuang 3 года назад +6

    These type of events are still happening in China.

  • @hotlinetech151
    @hotlinetech151 3 года назад +2

    Shaposhnikov is an absolute legend

  • @TheCimbrianBull
    @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +2

    14:56 Brezhnev has eyebrows on fleek!

  • @francislarvey7942
    @francislarvey7942 3 года назад +3

    Notice that all the workers looked strong and fit and capable. A large group of workers today would present a more varied group portrait in today's pampered world

  • @freakyfishy1
    @freakyfishy1 3 года назад +2

    Could you make a video about the different Gulag uprisings after Stalins death ?

  • @hanzup4117
    @hanzup4117 3 года назад +4

    Just leaving my comment for the algorithm.

  • @ns7023
    @ns7023 3 года назад +2

    That was some real hardcore "eat the rich"

    • @andrewalderman9489
      @andrewalderman9489 Год назад +1

      They taste great with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

  • @the_feedle
    @the_feedle 3 года назад +5

    The CCP: "write that down! Write that down!"

    • @the_feedle
      @the_feedle 3 года назад

      @A Fels if they protest they roll them over with tanks, that's whay happens

    • @the_feedle
      @the_feedle 3 года назад

      @A Fels and if you want to criticize the government ? How do you do it? And what do you think would happen if someone does it? Have you forgotten about what happened to the independent journalists who got arrested after criticizing the disastrous sanitary measures during the beginning of the covid 19 pandemic?

  • @anarchteacher
    @anarchteacher 3 года назад +3

    This concise film documents the little known populist uprisings in the USSR in mid 1962 resulting in widespread societal disruptions and disenchantment with living conditions. Because of the absence of a market pricing system of profit and loss, centrally planned socialism cannot calculate and function as a viable, productive economic system. The Soviet government could not guarantee basic services to the people. These events occurred several months before the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 where Khrushchev lost prestige and was forced to remove the missiles installed there. Interesting to speculate how they may have contributed to Khrushchev’s eventual ouster as the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and as chairman of the country’s Council of Ministers in 1964.

  • @_S.T.A.L.K.E.R._
    @_S.T.A.L.K.E.R._ 3 года назад +3

    I support this strike, I and my family to despise Khrushchev and his policies

  • @yardleybottles6025
    @yardleybottles6025 3 года назад

    Great historic docu!

  • @frogmantoad8110
    @frogmantoad8110 3 года назад +4

    BLM and the Squad disapprove of this message.

    • @basil7292
      @basil7292 3 года назад

      delusional to think mild social democrats are the same as soviets

  • @raphaellagnado2082
    @raphaellagnado2082 3 года назад +2

    I wonder how ANYBODY can still think centralized economic planning to be superior to free market, whatever their shortcomings may be

  • @oldegrunt5735
    @oldegrunt5735 3 года назад

    what film is being used for the illustration of events?

  • @robertalaverdov8147
    @robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад +2

    My aunts husband, I guess my uncle in law. Was from Rostov, said the rumor from people in the area was that about 200 people were actually killed during the protest. This may be due to the number of people getting arrested who weren't seen again until much later. And also being that there was no news coverage things spread thru the grapevine and got ever more immense. This is partly why Russians today are more apt to believe their neighbors telling them they were abducted by aliens than if they were to see an alien mothership over Moscow on TV. "It's fake news my neighbor said they use computer graphics." Proliferation off conspiracy theories and cults are some of the consequences. Even now with Russians not wanting to take the Covid vaccine.

  • @luishernandezblonde
    @luishernandezblonde 3 года назад +1

    This is why so many people resent USSR.

  • @vespelian5769
    @vespelian5769 3 года назад +10

    I was involved in a protest in the UK in 1990 that esculated into a riot. Despite actually witnessing the build up and start of the riot it took me thirty years to appreciate exactly what I experienced.
    I saw supposed anarchist adjitators stiring up the crowd and the police escalating the situation through ill-timed incompetents.
    On reflection and after talking with witness, it's clear the 'anarchists' were nothing of the sort and the police timimg was calculated. Someone on high wanted a riot to happen, and so it did.

    • @theoutlook55
      @theoutlook55 3 года назад +1

      Do share more please. I don't think the Thatcher government was above doing so but I'm curious as to the details. Where did this happen?

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  3 года назад +3

      Poll Tax Riots in London, by any chance?

    • @tomsommer8372
      @tomsommer8372 3 года назад +1

      Football riot, stag party riot, or any old anti-German riot? Brits are always involved in some sort of riots, it is just tragic what xenophobia and pure stupidity made the UK become.

    • @rusoviettovarich9221
      @rusoviettovarich9221 3 года назад +2

      @@theoutlook55 Yeah right it's always Thatcher never the Labour goons like Wilson that caused Thatcher through their traitorous greed and indifference towards stability - no just keep mouthing the mantra of 'Evil Thatcher'....if it weren't for Thatcher you wouldn't have the UK as it is today - prosperous - you'd have what it was morphing into Venezuela on roids.

    • @vespelian5769
      @vespelian5769 3 года назад +2

      ​@@theoutlook55 It was on the Poll Tax demonstration of 1990 and the atmosphere was like a festival until the agitators stired up the crowd. We were outside Downing Street and Whitehall was like a powder trail to Trafalgar Square. Thatcher had been an election asset from 1982 but by 1990 she was clearly gaga and it was in the intrests of her own party to get rid of her.

  • @karencarter8292
    @karencarter8292 3 года назад +12

    This reminds me of the protests of WWI vets and their demands of the bonus they had been promised by US officials but had not been granted, especially at a time of severe economic hardship for the people. Remember ? What happened was despicable, disgusting, and reveals the real attitude of many, if not most, errant public officials and military officers, the supposed servants of the people, even then, towards the men who had served and sacrificed for their country in wartime - yes, another foreign war to end all wars. Now, I distrust and deplore mobs, but these men were not as brutes in an unruly mob. They were men, many desperate, who deserved much better treatment and consideration than the brute force and insults they received from their 'leaders' and fellow soldiers and officers of the nation they had served so well. Many years ago, when I studied that shameful, sickening event, it was just more evidence of a once free people being lied to and mistreated by their turned and traitorous government oppressors. However, within just a few years, that same government of both controlled parties and the same military officers were exhorting and encouraging another generation of young men to join the fight, many the sons of the previous war, in yet another conflict against another supposed enemy in another land. Oddly, another war on the same continent from whence most of our forebears came.

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад +3

      Not sure why the US government shouldn't be fighting in WW2 after literally being attacked, but okay.

    • @basil7292
      @basil7292 3 года назад +1

      they were an enemy, nazi apologist

  • @alex4863
    @alex4863 3 года назад +10

    I’d love to wake up one day n all American workers be like “We need to meet with management as workers.”

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse 3 года назад +8

      “You are free to leave and start your own business!”😉😂

    • @rafimuhammadzakaria482
      @rafimuhammadzakaria482 3 года назад +5

      @@bunnystrasse At least in the US, they have that option

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 3 года назад +2

      Jeff Bezos might not like that!

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 года назад

      @@TheCimbrianBull He'd hate it, but he can't call in the tanks...at least not without getting the US government annoyed like: "Hey! That's my thing!"

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bunnystrasse Which they could do, unlike under socialist systems.

  • @macariomatira3234
    @macariomatira3234 3 года назад +4

    Do the Video On the Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos

  • @ShubhamMishrabro
    @ShubhamMishrabro 3 года назад +7

    I hope you do video where usa and ussr agreed like decolonisation of Portugal colonies, opposition against france and British occupation of suez canal and sending troops to help kuwait after iraq invade it

  • @charliepearce8767
    @charliepearce8767 3 года назад

    Maybe Bald and Bankrupt can do a documentary about this episode of the old Soviet Union....
    Very interesting.

  • @Scal_GG
    @Scal_GG Год назад

    Interestingly enough, I live in that city... 20 minutes walk away from the Factory

  • @aarononeal9830
    @aarononeal9830 3 года назад

    Never forget this.

  • @jackdutton3534
    @jackdutton3534 3 года назад

    your playlist is in the wrong order.

  • @generalhorse493
    @generalhorse493 3 месяца назад

    Most disturbing of all is that this happened 9 years before the Kent State massacre in Ohio 1971.
    America could’ve learned from Novocherkassk and from the Sharpesville massacre in South Africa.
    And the Boston massacre of 1770.
    But we didn’t.

  • @andraslibal
    @andraslibal 3 года назад +1

    How to raise living standards
    USA: enjoy the spoils of war, pump more oil, create more petrodollars,
    make others manufacture products for you, use fertilizers and pesticides to increase food production
    Japan, Germany: be the guys who make the products for the Americans
    USSR: mandate price and work quota increases to try to keep up with the US

  • @hreader
    @hreader 3 года назад +5

    'Under Capitalism, man exploits man. Under Communism, the reverse is the case.' A quip from (I think) Czechoslovakia. Seems an apt comment on a regime of higher work quotas with higher food prices and no increase in wages.

    • @sergeylitvinenko6785
      @sergeylitvinenko6785 3 года назад +1

      I heard it bluntly as: under communism it is all vice versa.

  • @EntropyAlchemist
    @EntropyAlchemist 3 года назад

    I wonder if these guys would be up to cover some post cold war events like the the dissolution of yugoslavia after the fall of the Soviets and the cival war fighting between Serbia and kosova

  • @benjamin_markus
    @benjamin_markus 3 года назад

    where are the images and footage from? i’m guessing its not original footage

    • @steadmanuhlich6734
      @steadmanuhlich6734 3 года назад +1

      Saw this answer in another comment: Andrei Konchalovsky has made a movie about the event, "Dear Comrades!" Here is the trailer: ruclips.net/video/XdBp0KktXpk/видео.html

    • @benjamin_markus
      @benjamin_markus 3 года назад

      @@steadmanuhlich6734 great, thanks!

  • @BrutusAlbion
    @BrutusAlbion 3 года назад +14

    Communists: Rise up against your capitalist overlords!
    Capitalists: Rise up against your state overlords!
    Communist Regimes: Wait that's illegal! We're the legitimate ruling guys. Shoot them!
    Capitalist Regimes: Wait that's illegal! We're the legitimate ruling guys. Shoot them!
    The people: Ah shit here we go again.

    • @lishiping84
      @lishiping84 3 года назад +1

      For all kinds of Ideologies, I start to feel eventually they will become the same thing, Class strife. Even Communism and Nazis are the same. Inequality is doomed in human society.

    • @argenisjimenez8118
      @argenisjimenez8118 3 года назад +2

      That's why you should never let any goverment taka away your means to defend your freedom (guns).
      The reason the soviet revolution succeded was because of the arming of the people tired of the Tsar rule. But after their objetive was fullfilled the guns were taken away, So the leaders could do with them whatever they wanted.

    • @reybladen3068
      @reybladen3068 3 года назад +1

      Capitalist societies : eventually gets taken over by greedy assholes
      Communist societies : eventually gets taken over by power hungry assholes
      How tf do we stop this assholes from having absolute power over the people? By making them fear the people. Never let the government disarm you👌🏿

    • @BrutusAlbion
      @BrutusAlbion 3 года назад +4

      ​@@argenisjimenez8118 When were the people (russians) ever armed bro? Even during the American revolution, how much of the population was armed according to you? I think you have this false idea that armed citizens somehow lead to freedom when there's no real historical evidence for that other than your ideological desires.

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse 3 года назад

      @@BrutusAlbion but they had freedom to buy arms, no?

  • @kiddankula5480
    @kiddankula5480 2 года назад

    12:29 ajanis pridemate takes trample damage for 2

  • @calvaryapologetics
    @calvaryapologetics 2 года назад

    I just watched the movie Dear Comrade which is based on this. Good movie.