Built for its Gun, the Sturer Emil | Cursed by Design

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    Although most tanks are in one way or another built for a specific armament the Sturer Emil is a bit more of a special case. Virtually every part of the vehicle that was changed was just to get the gun to be functional without really improving it as much as was needed. This would lead to the tank becoming known as the Sturer Emil, or Stubborn Emil.
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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  2 года назад +154

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    • @sawyerlogon7666
      @sawyerlogon7666 2 года назад +2

      I love this tank Cone thanks for covering it in my opion it dosent git enough recognition keep up the good work !

    • @ehtuanK
      @ehtuanK 2 года назад +2

      Are you sure that it was based on the VK 30.01's chassis? I thought they used the ones from the Durchbruchswagen prototypes.

    • @tob2603
      @tob2603 2 года назад +126

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    • @L3vinesNL
      @L3vinesNL 2 года назад +19

      @@tob2603 i tought the same thing..

    • @cwu4591
      @cwu4591 2 года назад +64

      Im pretty sure established titles is a scam

  • @yarnickgoovaerts
    @yarnickgoovaerts 2 года назад +2365

    “Preforming well in combat but being a pain in the ass outside” seems to be the motto of most german tanks in the later half of the war

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 2 года назад +2

      Except the Hetzer.
      .
      Which was a pain in the EVERYTHING to its crew.

    • @darwinism8181
      @darwinism8181 2 года назад +1

      I don't think we can even say that they performed well in combat; the vast majority of our knowledge that backs that up has been shown to be completely unreliable and largely a product of the fabrication of kill counts that was rampant during the war and even more rampant afterwards as Nazis were allowed to tell any tall tales they wanted to the Allies.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 2 года назад

      @@darwinism8181 Kill counts are sheer propaganda perpetuated by all sides. Often a carrot or stick for servicemen.

    • @darwinism8181
      @darwinism8181 2 года назад +1

      @@mbryson2899 Yes, I noted that and also the fact is that we know that Nazis took this to a whole different level than what is pretty standard. Entire engagements were fabricated, kill counts were incredibly overinflated, and that was BEFORE the Nazis got a free hand in dictating their actions to the Allies with the Allies just taking Nazis at their word.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 2 года назад +63

      @@darwinism8181 Rudel's book in particular is completely ridiculous but is still taken as fact by the wehraboos.
      At least Hartmann admitted that he'd lend his tulip-painted 109 to green pilots to scare Russian pilots away. I still don't believe he got a legit 365, though.
      Sakai's memoirs are conveniently vague about actual missions and kills, too.
      OTOH, I have questioned many US accounts, especially Lanphier adamantly claiming Yamamoto's transport.

  • @_Morph1ne_
    @_Morph1ne_ 2 года назад +1762

    50% of German wartime engineering can be boiled down to “how do we fit this comically large gun onto a chassis?”

    • @araflohd
      @araflohd Год назад +121

      my favourite being the modified fcm 36 with a 105mm howitzer. still wonder how that thing didnt do a backflip when shot.

    • @paprikaa117
      @paprikaa117 Год назад +119

      "What if we put enough armor to protect it from an artillery blast ten feet away, and a cannon that is completely overkill and will vaporize any tank from a 500 yard range?"
      "Porsche... that's fucking genius!"

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz Год назад +106

      Hans we need better transmission
      More armour you zay?
      No, better transmission!
      Bigger cannon you say?
      Got verdamnt Hans...
      Kriegsschiff Kanone?
      *Ja hanz*
      *Ja*

    • @Youravaragejoe_Englisch
      @Youravaragejoe_Englisch Год назад +13

      No it’s not… German engineering during WW2 is half boiled down to a large gun onto a tank design chassis

    • @CorneliusTheWizardDog
      @CorneliusTheWizardDog Год назад +30

      The other 50% is "how much can we make the transmission burst in an hour?"

  • @edwardvincentbriones5062
    @edwardvincentbriones5062 2 года назад +2223

    you never mentioned gun depression being greater than its elevation because, that’s the reason I’m interested in this vehicle

    • @KRAMPUS_G60_16V
      @KRAMPUS_G60_16V 2 года назад +302

      I was just about to say about that -15 degrees of gun depression, which is HUGE!

    • @Ziggy0120
      @Ziggy0120 2 года назад +170

      no roof

    • @krirthikdinesh7755
      @krirthikdinesh7755 2 года назад +134

      I play this tank in warthunder and it is fun sniping

    • @blackwidowrsa
      @blackwidowrsa 2 года назад +92

      i don't believe you could reload the gun at those angles, think that's what i heard on Tank Museum but I can't really remember

    • @andrewhopkins886
      @andrewhopkins886 2 года назад +1

      @@blackwidowrsa probably not no, good luck trying to hoist a very heavy shell over you torso or head and close the breach without falling/pulling a muscle.

  • @klausmansfield5476
    @klausmansfield5476 2 года назад +892

    the frontal armor on the Sturer Emil was actually quite thick for the time of construction, being the same as the Pz iii and Pz iv

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  2 года назад +303

      That is true, although by the time it actually reached combat that wasn't the case

    • @ravenouself4181
      @ravenouself4181 2 года назад +122

      @@ConeOfArc To add to this: The 12.8 cm gun could easily out-range most potential enemies... so, it's armor wasn't that much of a concern.

    • @magoshighlands4074
      @magoshighlands4074 2 года назад +63

      @@ravenouself4181 The same can be said of the Maus and King Tiger, but all that gun power Don't mean anything if it gets wiped out by a Typhoon or can't reach the battle

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 2 года назад +25

      @@magoshighlands4074 again, when designed that wasn't a factor as aircraft in anti-tank roles weren't a thing. Of course by the time it reached the front lines the first Il-2s were starting to appear in the tank buster role, but they weren't very effective as yet.

    • @arczer2519
      @arczer2519 2 года назад +17

      @@jwenting ye even the "tank busters" weren't really that effective at destroying tanks, often having highly inflated kill ratios.
      on other hand what actually suffered were tank support structure (everything around tank) and morale

  • @bfrank7389
    @bfrank7389 2 года назад +705

    My favorite thing about the Emil is that is was used during the same timeframe as the panzerjäger 1. Can you imagine being assigned to panzer jager company and being assigned to a panzerjäger one only to see the crew next to you assigned a vehicle so large that yours could fit in its crew compartment

    • @mikhailbolodo1597
      @mikhailbolodo1597 2 года назад

      I mean, it would boost my morale through the roof! Imagine seeing Sherman's getting cut down like a hot knife through butter

    • @yeetissheetsfoot60
      @yeetissheetsfoot60 2 года назад +53

      That would be a bit funny

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 2 года назад +4

      What? Panzerjäger 1 was sorted out long before the introduction of the Emil.

    • @thegamingfish547
      @thegamingfish547 2 года назад +56

      @@juanzulu1318 wrong actually. The panzerjager 1 was used quite extensively on the eastern front due to the ease of production and it’s raw effectiveness. the 47mm could pen tank sides and rears well and in a TD role where it could be concealed it worked very well

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 2 года назад +2

      @@thegamingfish547 not wrong. As I said the Emil came much later after the retirement of the pz1 into Service.

  • @jarink1
    @jarink1 2 года назад +275

    4:14 German Panzer crewman updates markings on barrel denoting kills (tank silhouette) and mechanical breakdowns (stripes).

  • @ferronzomeren2733
    @ferronzomeren2733 2 года назад +84

    I think WarThunder has the additional 'machine gunner' such that you do not instantly die from one strafing run of an aircraft

    • @Reiver-93
      @Reiver-93 Год назад +16

      yeah, it sounds like something done more for balancing than a mistake.

    • @kildeer1897
      @kildeer1897 10 месяцев назад +1

      But you still do immediately die to aircraft

    • @connivingkhajiit
      @connivingkhajiit 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@kildeer1897 having one extra makes a big difference

    • @akriegguardsman
      @akriegguardsman 7 месяцев назад +1

      Should be removed for historical accuracy tho

    • @superspies32
      @superspies32 4 месяца назад

      Also on War Thunder this TD is 99% of the case I died. Even M36 with HEATFS cannot pen its front and even its ass. The track made from something hard as Stalinium and cannot be broken even with magnetic mine of BTD-1

  • @christophervanoster
    @christophervanoster 2 года назад +178

    In war thunder this is easily my favorite tank in terms of playing it. The gun is so freaking big you don’t have to really aim and you never bounce. I bring this thing into my 6.3 and 6.7 lineup and still get kills all the time. I penned the upper glacis of a super Pershing while he was angled at 900 meters with this in war thunder. And I’ve killed t34s (American heavy) from over 1000 meters. The gun is so good. I love it

    • @QwerYT4819
      @QwerYT4819 2 года назад +9

      The only gun that can even come close to the performance of the Sturer Emil's gun (at a similar BR) is the IS-2's D-25T gun, and even that gun has less penetration than the Emil.

    • @fenfrostpaws2000
      @fenfrostpaws2000 2 года назад +9

      Hard to believe it went from 6.0 to 4.3

    • @jmdriftboy
      @jmdriftboy 2 года назад +6

      In world of tanks this tank is easily my pain in the a$$
      Tank, it is slow, no armor, and low mobility that maid me hate it

    • @themistaken9571
      @themistaken9571 2 года назад +9

      @@fenfrostpaws2000 balans by statistik moment

    • @actualperson1971
      @actualperson1971 2 года назад

      Meanwhile: get killed by R-3

  • @thelieutenant7732
    @thelieutenant7732 2 года назад +132

    If tanks had souls, Moritz would be one of the most depressed tanks ever, being only one of two and forever alone after losing it’s only brother, now sitting in a museum surrounded by the enemy.

    • @derpychicken2131
      @derpychicken2131 2 года назад +21

      A fate shared by many of his German siblings, so at least he does have some company from his cousins and uncles like the Maus

    • @mouth7137
      @mouth7137 2 года назад

      Oh god, imagine your head being fused to your older brother's body after getting executed by your own people to prevent capture.

    • @thelieutenant7732
      @thelieutenant7732 2 года назад +12

      @@mouth7137 Well I guess in my head-canon a tank that never serves in combat never lived since combat is what it was built for. It was never truly alive if it didn't fulfill its purpose. At the very least, the tank needs to have entered service. The Maus in my eyes was lucky enough to have never really been alive so its mish-mashed remains are not as horrifying as sewing two twins together.

    • @AndreasGassner
      @AndreasGassner Год назад

      Nah, Moritz is a big boy.

    • @Xbalanque84
      @Xbalanque84 Год назад +7

      @@thelieutenant7732
      _>"head-canon"_
      _>tank which literally has a cannon on its "head"_
      _>mfw_

  • @michaelmcnaughton3593
    @michaelmcnaughton3593 2 года назад +264

    You are one smart guy. Enough time for people to watch the historical video, then immediately post the War Thunder gameplay video. Keep it up 👍

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  2 года назад +49

      Haha, I tried to set the times to be roughly that way so it would allow people to watch this first

  • @nocount7517
    @nocount7517 2 года назад +240

    Back when I played WoT, my clan and I lovingly referred to this monstrosity and its counterparts in the same tech branch as toasters.

    • @yeetissheetsfoot60
      @yeetissheetsfoot60 2 года назад +20

      It fires hv t/ apt.
      HVT: high velocity toast
      APT: armor piercing toast

    • @fahrimertdincer8421
      @fahrimertdincer8421 2 года назад

      @@yeetissheetsfoot60 d*ckermax shit d*ckusmaximus here goes bacvards....bep bep bep..
      oh emıl is it facing this direction or not its aiming at kv2 ...great lets hunt it

    • @heenthousiast383
      @heenthousiast383 2 года назад +13

      as someone who still plays, ppl still call the Emil and the tank with stupidly long name toaster

    • @Th0ughtf0rce
      @Th0ughtf0rce 2 года назад +11

      Funny how at tier V Germany had the death toaster and France had the deathtub, fellow contender for fugliest tank in the game.

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 2 года назад +2

      the dumpster of doom

  • @josephd.5524
    @josephd.5524 2 года назад +264

    This thing and the Dicker Max have been giving me fits this weekend in WT for some reason. They just became really popular all of a sudden for picking me off the moment I peek around a corner.

    • @maxoneil1323
      @maxoneil1323 2 года назад +9

      if you have a friend they are super strong even in cqc

    • @coolchrisable
      @coolchrisable 2 года назад +11

      for me its the nashorn and the waffentrager like as soon as i peek its lime my time has come

    • @shronkler1994
      @shronkler1994 2 года назад +9

      mmmm yes, sturer ambushes are the best....it helps that it can pen AND oneshot everything it sees

    • @kigr_33
      @kigr_33 2 года назад

      Thats gotta be me lol

    • @RTFLDGR
      @RTFLDGR 2 года назад +1

      You gotta run around to the side of the Emil. BANG. They fall. That big gun is harmless, pointed away from you.

  • @maxmond5315
    @maxmond5315 2 года назад +78

    When I remember correctly, a grandpa from a friend told us back then some war stories and I think he said that sometime, when they knew they were facing the enemy very soon, they took an extra round with them and the loader had to take hold of it. So maby that explaines the extra ammo but I'm not sure, it's has been 15 years since that conversation.

    • @Icspiders247
      @Icspiders247 2 года назад +3

      Wouldn't it be easier to put one in the breech then fill out your ammunition rack rather than just carrying that extra round?

    • @browning2471
      @browning2471 2 года назад +2

      Jonathan Dee it sounds like they did do that? Then hold one extra round

    • @erik260196
      @erik260196 2 года назад +14

      @@Icspiders247 1 in the breech, 15 stored, 2 more held by the loaders
      Probably how the number 18 was created

    • @maxmond5315
      @maxmond5315 2 года назад +1

      @@erik260196 yeah that's what I thought

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 2 года назад +3

      The two rounds probably were in their wood shipping boxes set on the floor in the rear.

  • @ChenAnPin
    @ChenAnPin 2 года назад +152

    Such an interesting idea, designing a weapon system almost entirely around the gun. Surely that would never happen again.

    • @dinonuggiesguy4847
      @dinonuggiesguy4847 2 года назад +33

      Yes, especially for planes....

    • @chazzer7564
      @chazzer7564 2 года назад +19

      To be fair, the Challenger 2 was built for the gun first, and it works well under that concept

    • @danieldan7713
      @danieldan7713 2 года назад +26

      @@dinonuggiesguy4847 the A-10 is following you...

    • @airplanemaniacgaming7877
      @airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 года назад

      @@danieldan7713 Sure as hell beats whatever weird idea the Soviets had! Building a gun around a plane.....what were those vodka chugging idiots thinking............

    • @gliderdan3153
      @gliderdan3153 2 года назад +2

      Wasn't the B-29 designed to drop the atomic bomb?

  • @stayhungry1503
    @stayhungry1503 2 года назад +56

    for germans being known for "over-engineering" all their vehicles its amazing how they so often managed to underpower them especially the tanks. seems to me that a powerful, reliable engine should have been the main focus of the engineers.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 2 года назад +11

      the bigeest problem was a complete lack of commonality of parts. this hurt both the production ines and the ablty to effect repairs and maintian reliability in the field.

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 2 года назад +6

      The US War Production Board was headed by a guy named Knudsen who was chairman of General Motors for the longest time. He decided it would be best to keep things simple so used existing proven designs that already were in production.

    • @ThommyofThenn
      @ThommyofThenn Год назад +1

      So German engineering is actually a thing but relied on way too optimistic logistical support?

    • @supernus8684
      @supernus8684 Год назад

      Isn't that exactly what over-engineering refers to? You engineer a tank around whatever engine you have available then you get a letter from the fuhrer saying "moar armor unt bigger gun bitte" so you go back to your design and over-engineer it so it somehow will work with the same engine but with several tons of weight added on top of it.

    • @stayhungry1503
      @stayhungry1503 Год назад +3

      @@supernus8684 to me over engineering means you spend way too much time and effort and money on things that are sometimes not even necessary and trying to put in all the latest technology updates at the same time instead of using slightly older but battle tested stuff. it does not mean putting in a weak engine in a heavy vehicle and being fine with it thats just bad engineering.

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 2 года назад +73

    The Chieftain has an old Inside the Chieftains Hatch on the last remaining example of this vehicle at Kubinka. You can see how thoroughly the Soviets gutted the vehicle. Check it out.
    This is the video where he first has trouble pronouncing "selbstfahrlafette".

    • @ravenouself4181
      @ravenouself4181 2 года назад +23

      The Soviets gutted it harder than a US Hospital guts one's bank account.

    • @nonamesplease6288
      @nonamesplease6288 2 года назад +9

      @@ravenouself4181 Yup, like a trip to the gas station and the grocery store.

  • @robertdeen8741
    @robertdeen8741 2 года назад +23

    Brings to mind the Fertinand-Elephant. That's what Happens when one presses a chassis into service for something it was never intended. I'm sure the crews felt like they should never of bothered. The main measure being, if you have to retreat and you can walk away faster than the machine can drive!

    • @Athrun82
      @Athrun82 2 года назад +5

      Tbf the Elephant was actually working as long as you use it in a battlefield which is flat and open. And not use it in say the Italian mountains where this big and heavy chassis is useless.

  • @the7observer
    @the7observer 2 года назад +28

    11:43 a self propelled gun is better than a towed gun, unless the self propelled gun chassis is unreliable

  • @geoderegartta8009
    @geoderegartta8009 2 года назад +22

    „Built for its gun“
    A-10: hey big bro-

  • @nightshade4873
    @nightshade4873 2 года назад +180

    ah yes, the tank that has the same degree of depression as i do.

  • @ollep9142
    @ollep9142 2 года назад +8

    Here's a plausible explanation (as hypothesized by me) to the ammunition numbers "issues" discussed around 9:20 in the clip:
    Numbers given
    * 13 propellant racks
    * 15 projectile racks
    * 18 rounds carried
    The first two can be explained by the designer making good use of the available space. No more than 13 propellant racks could be fitted, but having two more projectiles would allow some added flexibility in the mix of projectiles carried.
    Bringing more ammo than there were racks for was the norm for assault guns. StuG III had racks for just over 40 rounds but normally carried about 75 rounds into combat, with the excess piled up on the floor and wherever the crew could squeeze it in. I'd be surprised if bringing as many rounds as physically possible wasn't the norm also for the Emil.

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV 2 года назад +78

    A pity that Kubinka isn't accessible to most of us anymore.

    • @bildkistl
      @bildkistl 2 года назад +1

      why?

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 2 года назад +31

      @@bildkistl It's a bit difficult for Americans and Western European to travel to Russia in the current political situation.

    • @sjonnieplayfull5859
      @sjonnieplayfull5859 Год назад +30

      @@RedXlV At the current rate, I predict we will see the tanks from inside Kubinka on the frontline next year April....

    • @gdutfulkbhh7537
      @gdutfulkbhh7537 Год назад +1

      I was looking forward to a trip to Belarus for the Stalin Line museum. That won’t be an option until regime change, now.
      Russian mafia have previously been keen to sell Kubinka’s collection internationally, though: you might see various vehicles in the west a few years from now.

    • @DaleksInc
      @DaleksInc Год назад +2

      @@sjonnieplayfull5859 It is now next April. T-54s(!), but nothing from Kubinka yet. Perhaps next April...

  • @Mamorufumio
    @Mamorufumio 2 года назад +11

    6:00 to be fair you don't need to really move fast when your going to sit in the back of an open map and 'kemp bush' and be a real 'unfair plane'

  • @Aninkovsky
    @Aninkovsky 2 года назад +16

    When you design tank quite well in HOI4, but did not even look at reliability stats...

  • @zeusz3237
    @zeusz3237 2 года назад +15

    In the game, I just love the Sturer... It is fun... That's all, it might perform crap on city maps sometimes, but it is just soooo fun...

  • @uzunaruMelonness
    @uzunaruMelonness 2 года назад +7

    Welp, I'll be keeping an eye for a Sturer Emil blueprint for the Sprocket Game.

  • @yordobelps
    @yordobelps 2 года назад +2

    I gotta say thank you for doing a vid on the Sturer Emil, it's by far my favorite Tank Destroyer not only in WT but also in general :)

  • @NewBieAlmostPro
    @NewBieAlmostPro Год назад

    This is a very nice video. The explaining, the details. It's beautiful. Have a sub, you deserve it and i will definitely check out your channel more

  • @NCA2212
    @NCA2212 2 года назад +31

    The 2 additional Shell are probably on the loaders Pocket since there's 2 loaders
    Coincidence?
    I THINK NOT

  • @KRAMPUS_G60_16V
    @KRAMPUS_G60_16V 2 года назад +18

    Real monster gun of it's time. Love it!

    • @user-id9oi1py4t
      @user-id9oi1py4t 2 года назад +3

      Even if it was used in 1943 it's gonna hit hard for the Soviets

  • @danielcurtis1434
    @danielcurtis1434 Год назад

    Almost a quarter mil subs!!! You deserve more for the quality of your videos!!!
    Keep it up you’ll get there!!!

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 2 года назад +2

    Great vid ConeofArc. I've seen this tank in WoT but had no idea two operational units actually took part in combat.

  • @CurseOfZeSnail
    @CurseOfZeSnail 2 года назад +4

    Hit an over 3km shot on Red Desert with this bad boy. For that alone it will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @datpieceofbread9570
    @datpieceofbread9570 2 года назад +17

    Personally, I always kinda like the Emil. They were ridiculously powerful guns that managed to reuse a couple hulls that weren't being used, and are kinda the embodiment of a skilled craftsman can make any tool work well. Still not a fan of the suspension, but the machine overall I find to be an fascinating little footnote

  • @CH-pv2rz
    @CH-pv2rz Год назад

    You put out some excellent videos. May not agree with them on all aspects but they are of high quality in research and in presentation.

  • @TexasNationalist1836
    @TexasNationalist1836 2 года назад +38

    So it’s the tank version of the A-10

    • @sawyerlogon7666
      @sawyerlogon7666 2 года назад +2

      Yes and i love it

    • @davidthomas2870
      @davidthomas2870 2 года назад +3

      Not quite. The A-10 is useful, reasonbly resistant to small arms and can cary a significant amount of extra armaments for when they need a weapon other than the gun, making it somewhat versatile. The Steurer Emil has a big gun and that's pretty much it.

    • @igoryst3049
      @igoryst3049 2 года назад +5

      @@davidthomas2870 A10 is not really useful, all the roles it fulfills are done better by other planes

    • @QuintonMurdock
      @QuintonMurdock 2 года назад +1

      No. The a10 is actually effective

    • @gjantonio
      @gjantonio 2 года назад +1

      @@igoryst3049 one hell of a moralle booster tho, and no other planes can compare to how high the A-10 can lift a soldier's spirits. In short, not entirely useless.
      (I may have written some words wrong, but honestly idc)

  • @michaeloakleaf
    @michaeloakleaf 2 года назад +2

    Fun fact, Köningstiger, literally translates to king tiger, but that is also the common name for the bengal tiger in german.

  • @mpf1947
    @mpf1947 2 года назад +10

    This may be the only tracked vehicle capable of too much gun depression.

    • @joeperson4792
      @joeperson4792 2 года назад +2

      The engine is located under the breech block, so it was a pain in the rear end to service.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 2 года назад +3

      being able to shoot down into a fortification from an overlook is a good thing :)

  • @thelemming54
    @thelemming54 2 года назад

    This channel is legit. Great work as always

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 Год назад +2

    4:26 Woah, woah, woah, I’m gonna need some more details on this one. The 12.8 cm shell didn’t penetrate the Churchill turret, but was able to knock it off the turret ring? And they filled the tank with bunnies during the test? For what!? They didn’t have dummies in the 1940’s?

    • @soupwizard
      @soupwizard Год назад +3

      Someone had a pint too many during lunch at the pub and, mis-hearing the plan, wrote down "fill it with test bunnies".

  • @darth_elsa6681
    @darth_elsa6681 2 года назад +5

    Always saw this design but never knew it actually saw combat.

  • @androidtexts6948
    @androidtexts6948 6 месяцев назад +79

    Established titles is a scam

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 2 месяца назад +5

      So is kamikoto knives.

    • @aleksbestmusic6903
      @aleksbestmusic6903 Месяц назад +2

      Cone probably crying rn because he won’t get another sponsorship
      (Don’t take seriously)

    • @deadstop4434
      @deadstop4434 Месяц назад

      My brother in Christ it is a $40 gag gift if you think that you can be a part of royalty for $40 you shouldn’t reproduce

    • @maotisjan
      @maotisjan Месяц назад

      I would still buy it, as a joke on myself + they would at least plant a tree, that counts for something

    • @user-qb7sl7lb3s
      @user-qb7sl7lb3s 10 дней назад

      You can literally donate to team trees

  • @kampfgruppepeiper501
    @kampfgruppepeiper501 2 года назад

    Great video man!!

  • @daveybyrden3936
    @daveybyrden3936 Год назад

    You can deduce the radio equipment of this vehicle from [a] its role and the type of unit it was assigned to, and [b] mounts and attachment points remaining on the walls of the Kubinka example.
    The radio was a full-sized Fu.Spr, almost certainly the "d" version.
    There was an intercom, and since this was a Panzerjager, it should have been based on the "Kasten 23". Certainly that device fits the wall mounts.
    The intercom and radio were in the forward right corner of the compartment, hence the commander was also the radio op. That was normal for Panzerjager vehicles.
    The driver must have been on the intercom and in contact with the commander. But it's not clear if the gunner had a link too.

  • @zachfrancisco8185
    @zachfrancisco8185 2 года назад +4

    You should do a forged for battle for the IS2 and all its variants it dosent get a lot of praise despite being a reliable powerful and effective heavy breakthrough tank.

  • @socialjihad5724
    @socialjihad5724 2 года назад +6

    This is one of my favorite vehicles in war thunder, and is surprisingly good

  • @ctan2174
    @ctan2174 2 года назад

    Finally you covered the first tank i got a 1/35 model which is painted

  • @strategicmind2652
    @strategicmind2652 2 года назад +3

    I'd love an episode around the Lorraine 50t on fake tank Friday as I find the tank interesting and I'm curious as to how fake it was

  • @AlphaHorst
    @AlphaHorst 2 года назад +4

    Dear Gajin. Please don't fix the MG guy... he is the only reason this thing survives more than one shot.

    • @actualperson1971
      @actualperson1971 2 года назад

      Yeah, I feel like this is one of those balancing changes that's necessary for the game

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 2 года назад +1

    nice video. small point (3:10) : Betonknacker splits into Beton (Concrete) - knacker (breaker), not betonk - nacker

  • @getstridsvagned
    @getstridsvagned 2 года назад +2

    It would be awesome if you could cover the Dicker Max and Nashorn next!

  • @Hellsong89
    @Hellsong89 2 года назад +6

    This vehicle really shows how massive that thing is in scale, absolute beast. Maybe if the had come up sturdier drivetrain and engine this would been war winning concept, we never know. Also fast moving blade at the back could have stabilized for repeated shots, well as used to dig emplacement for ambushes. Interesting vehicle never the less.

  • @Macrochenia
    @Macrochenia 2 года назад +3

    I remember playing this thing in World of Tanks. One of the absolute worst German TDs in the game: got the stealth of a heavy tank and the armor of a self-propelled artillery piece. And it's got absolutely no horizontal gun traverse so you have to move the whole vehicle to aim at something that's even a tiny bit off-center from you. Even with only 15 shots for the gun it was hard to stay alive long enough to use all its ammo.

    • @americanmarxist-leninist1214
      @americanmarxist-leninist1214 2 года назад +1

      I play it in War thunder and honestly it’s amazing in that game. The worst it can face is an IS-1 or maybe a Jumbo Sherman which the 128mm gun can easily wipe them out. It’s drawback is planes just strafe your crew and wipe em out of you aren’t careful

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 2 года назад +1

      @@americanmarxist-leninist1214 In World of Tanks it sees matchmaking against the Jagdtiger, M103, and T95. Vehicles with a high chance of bouncing its shots and obliterating it with their return fire.

    • @americanmarxist-leninist1214
      @americanmarxist-leninist1214 2 года назад +1

      @@Macrochenia wow that’s really stupid matchmaking. I didn’t realize it was that bad

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 2 года назад +2

      @@americanmarxist-leninist1214 Thanks to its gun, the Sturer Emil is classified as a Tier VII vehicle so it fights against vehicles of up to Tier IX. And once you pass Tier V, you generally find yourself playing bottom tier matches until you hit Tier IX. They knew the problems with the matchmaking for years and deliberately didn't bother fixing it.

  • @Nick-rs5if
    @Nick-rs5if Месяц назад

    "We need a better transmission, Hans."
    "A bigger gun you say?"
    "No Hans, a better transmission!"
    "More armour you say?"
    "Gott verdammt, Hans! Transmission!"
    "Ah, schlachtschiff kanone."
    "... Ja, Hans. JA!"

  • @Hiihtopipa
    @Hiihtopipa 2 года назад

    You could see a picture on the opposite side from the propellants/shells another place for propellants so maybe there were couple shells too.

  • @giorgigarsevanidze6334
    @giorgigarsevanidze6334 2 года назад +4

    It doesn't even have a machine gun, adding a machinegunner doesn't make any sense

    • @lunatic_nebula9542
      @lunatic_nebula9542 2 года назад +1

      the machine gunner name is used when they cant put another crew

    • @giorgigarsevanidze6334
      @giorgigarsevanidze6334 2 года назад +1

      @@lunatic_nebula9542
      It was also an alternative name for radio operators, as WWII tanks required them to do an additional job of operating a machine gun next to the driver's position.
      But St. Emil still doesn't need a radio operator, because commander was in charge of the radio.

    • @ottaviobasques
      @ottaviobasques 2 года назад +1

      @@lunatic_nebula9542 just name it "Passanger"

  • @margiewambui5548
    @margiewambui5548 2 года назад +4

    This tank reminds me of the absolute pleasure of detonating the ammo of Sherman's in war thunder. They explode So beautifully

    • @blackopscw7913
      @blackopscw7913 Год назад

      Same with the Emil, blowing it up in my sherman is just amazing

  • @kKingkazuma
    @kKingkazuma 2 года назад +2

    I love strafing this vehicle in my A6Ms in ground RB.

  • @flux47axe11
    @flux47axe11 2 года назад

    That was Apic very Very nice video... I Always Knew that ther wher Only 2 made.. But never Know The Background s.... 😁👍

  • @USSBOAT
    @USSBOAT 2 года назад +10

    The 10.5 gun would go onto the dicker max
    There's nothing down here

  • @threegoldmartlets
    @threegoldmartlets 7 месяцев назад +8

    Established titles = con.

  • @mugbug5
    @mugbug5 Год назад +1

    Why does a Sturer Emil Vs Maus drag race sound like a good idea

  • @morbidlyobesecat7829
    @morbidlyobesecat7829 Год назад

    Hans, we need to build a tank with no armor but a gun that vaporizes People from 2km away

  • @SnafuWT
    @SnafuWT 2 года назад +7

    @4:17 the 128mm is not the most powerful armament to be mounted on a vehicle by the end of the war. quick example, the long 130mm of the su100y. or the long 152mm on the su152BM

    • @patrickstewart3446
      @patrickstewart3446 2 года назад

      Or the M12 with a 155mm howitzer.

    • @ottaviobasques
      @ottaviobasques 2 года назад +6

      But it was considered the most powerful AT cannon of that time, the soviet S-70, built after the war, was comparable to the PaK 44

    • @wolfsoldner9029
      @wolfsoldner9029 2 года назад +1

      I think the lenght of the gun is also a factor here.

    • @SnafuWT
      @SnafuWT 2 года назад

      @@wolfsoldner9029 su100y has a long barrel 130mm. su152b has a long barrel 152mm.

    • @SnafuWT
      @SnafuWT 2 года назад

      @@patrickstewart3446 well, that's a howitzer, it doesn't really have APHE shells.

  • @ArchusKanzaki
    @ArchusKanzaki 2 года назад +5

    Ah yes.... the tank that is basically the final trial for German Sniper TD line in World of Tank, before you reached Valhalla that is Rhm-Borsig Waffentrager.
    Yes, it have depression, but good luck reaching positions to even use it in time, or even survive reaching positions

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 Год назад

    I'll need to look that up aswell I've only heard of max n moritz in the Africa korps on the captured Dorchesters

  • @robbyducey
    @robbyducey 2 года назад +1

    i always wondered why it had the hatch in the back despite being an open top and the gun not blocking the driver's hatch when it rotated

  • @thegregitto
    @thegregitto 2 года назад +5

    Ah yes, basically the tank version of the Duck (HS.129)

  • @828enigma6
    @828enigma6 2 года назад +3

    So what happened to Max? Is he still wandering looking for his brother?

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  2 года назад +2

      Possible he's still out there in a Russian bog somewhere but more likely he was destroyed either in combat or by his crew.

  • @RuskiVodkaaaa
    @RuskiVodkaaaa Год назад

    ive always loved the look of the sturer, its cannon is so imposing lol

  • @lycanmotions
    @lycanmotions 4 месяца назад

    I'd reckon you do the Geschutzwagen Tiger 2 Mitt 17cm as a few sources say it was almost built before the end of WW2.

  • @mavislenya1110
    @mavislenya1110 2 года назад +10

    wasn't tiger one also essentially designed around the gun?

    • @Penha-yz8vj
      @Penha-yz8vj 2 года назад +9

      at least if the transmission was

    • @Sseltraeh89
      @Sseltraeh89 2 года назад +3

      Tiger I was originally supposed to carry the 7.5cm l/70 and the 8.8cm was meant to be stopgap solution for first production series, so probably not

    • @christophervanoster
      @christophervanoster 2 года назад +2

      The turret was, I don’t think the whole tank was

  • @KrizotskiSN
    @KrizotskiSN 2 года назад +5

    Emil is like a variant of nashorn or I'm just stupid?

    • @jammygamer8961
      @jammygamer8961 2 года назад +14

      nope, completely different vehicle

    • @christophervanoster
      @christophervanoster 2 года назад +1

      Nashorn was build on a modified panzer 4, and had the long 88. The sturer like he said is based off the canceled tiger prototype VK3001H project. Complete different designs but they served a very similar if not identical role

  • @adamhhing4069
    @adamhhing4069 2 года назад

    That was the smoothest add transition ever.

  • @Hcb37
    @Hcb37 2 года назад

    Jentz used the after action reports of Panzerjäger-Abteilung 521 to make the case that both the Dicker Max and Sturer Emil were seldom evolved in engagements where the caliber and range of their guns were justified in comparison to available 8,8 cm guns. It’s not just that these vehicles were difficult to keep going in the field, in the end they didn’t offer enough improvement in killing power to justify the refinement of their panzerjager designs.

  • @MegaJani
    @MegaJani 2 года назад +3

    8:06
    And they also gave it a V-12 engine, apparently.

    • @Mr_Bunk
      @Mr_Bunk 2 года назад

      Source?

    • @MegaJani
      @MegaJani 2 года назад +1

      @@Mr_Bunk Look at the WT module overlay, it's clearly not inline.

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock 2 года назад +3

    Germany try not to build a big dumb useless wonderwaffle that is just a waste of very limited resource challenge. Any %

    • @Mimonbaraka98
      @Mimonbaraka98 2 года назад +2

      Where is emil useless? It was very evective.

    • @mirroredvoid8394
      @mirroredvoid8394 2 года назад +1

      only 2 tanks we're produced and got 31 kills.

    • @Mimonbaraka98
      @Mimonbaraka98 2 года назад

      @@mirroredvoid8394 obe single had 31 confirmed both together may more

  • @Empress-Missy
    @Empress-Missy 3 месяца назад

    a-10 must be proud. Since its a gun with a pane attached.

  • @paulguzman1634
    @paulguzman1634 9 месяцев назад

    These look like the Nashorn tank destroyers. Really bad boys in combat. One took out some of our first super Pershing's to see combat

  • @user-mn8lz7gf6d
    @user-mn8lz7gf6d 7 месяцев назад +5

    "established titles" is a scam.

  • @Mavve69
    @Mavve69 2 года назад +3

    I think it’s pronounced sturer emil and not sturer emil.

  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch 2 года назад

    I read Max and Moritz in German as a kid. I loved it. What a way back moment :)

  • @FokkeWulfe
    @FokkeWulfe Год назад +1

    @1:18 or a couple seconds either side, the rear Tiger, I think, was throwing a track. If you look closely, you'll see the track shift to the inside of the front bogey, just as the video cuts to the Matilda.

  • @sirbum1918
    @sirbum1918 2 года назад +3

    Thumbs down for the scam sponsor.

    • @Mr_Bunk
      @Mr_Bunk 2 года назад +1

      Aye. As someone with direct Scottish roots, I'm not sure whether to laugh or repeatedly head-desk at this.

  • @peterknudsen3490
    @peterknudsen3490 Год назад

    I'm sure someone has said it before but I'll add it here at the top. Stuhre is not stubborn, it's big. The german word for big. Big Emil.

  • @vesselinkrastev
    @vesselinkrastev Год назад

    I remember reading that story as a kid. I had no idea it was so old.

  • @Nottrules
    @Nottrules 2 года назад +1

    A flying gun (A-10) and a moving gun (Emil) amazing how the designers had similar ideas

    • @colbyuetake130
      @colbyuetake130 2 года назад +1

      ....in the vaguest way, that's about the only similar thing between them...

    • @Nottrules
      @Nottrules 2 года назад

      @@colbyuetake130 One put it on wheels err- tracks, I guess and the other put it on wings.

  • @noobyd9767
    @noobyd9767 11 месяцев назад +2

    German engineers: i will mount a 380mm gun on a car if i can

    • @thefirstkingdogo1126
      @thefirstkingdogo1126 11 месяцев назад

      You use a car?
      I put one on my bike 🚲

    • @noobyd9767
      @noobyd9767 10 месяцев назад

      by a car i mean the Peel 50

  • @warlordshaxx856
    @warlordshaxx856 2 года назад

    LOL COA instantly changed topic from how tanks become famous of it's name to an ad

  • @23GreyFox
    @23GreyFox 2 года назад +1

    The design was more than good enough for the intended role.

  • @Z.O.M.G
    @Z.O.M.G 5 месяцев назад

    This thing is a menace in war thunder, except if the enemy tank is a T-34, then the shell magicaly dissapears when it hits the armor

  • @AtypickyKraken
    @AtypickyKraken 2 года назад

    Did it have the insane gun depression it has in WoT? And (guess not just I) would appreciate a second part of this, for the other variant, which in WoT, is often seen in chat as "****** max", the 10,5cm version on Pz.Kpfw. IV chassis

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 2 года назад

    That recoil was massive. Must have done a job on the suspension.

  • @slavsquatsuperstar
    @slavsquatsuperstar Год назад +1

    Stubborn Emil, Fat Max, Mouse, Rat… and they say Germans don’t have a sense of humor xD

  • @FizzleFX
    @FizzleFX Год назад

    +1 projectile in the gun
    +1 on the lap of radio man

  • @TheLPN05Fan
    @TheLPN05Fan 2 года назад

    If it had 10 or even only 5kph more Topspeed I'd love this thing. Truly though, the Pz.Sfl.IVa "Dicker Max", the little brother of the "Sturer Emil" how I like to think about it, was and is better in almost every aspect other than the Guns ammo.
    Not to mention that the Dicker Max is one of my alltime favourite tanks, maybe solely outdone by the FV4202 and Waffenträger series.

  • @micaspapa474
    @micaspapa474 6 месяцев назад

    The loader held one round and the other was in the driver's lap haha

  • @whiteoscreen2383
    @whiteoscreen2383 Год назад

    I know it is an old video but the two rounds can be stored in a tank one in the gun and the other holds it by one of the loader

  • @myvideosetc.8271
    @myvideosetc.8271 2 года назад

    "it was designed around the main armament", happy BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT noises in the distance.