This highlights the problem I have with Google's AI stuff, it always seems promising but winds up being "not exactly." It would be interesting to contrast this with the new Claude Projects. Thanks for doing this, though, as I really appreciate knowing how all these tools might apply to my workflow, even if they aren't quite there yet. I appreciate how thoroughly you go through the functions and use cases.
Very interesting. I tried the new Claude Projects, seems to be similar except that Claude Projects will not remember the context after you close the chat. The history is there but you can’t pick up the conversation again later. NotebookLM seems to be useful like a database with easier access for information retrieval. Thanks Jason for all of your hard work. You have got me addicted to Novelcrafter too. Keep up the great work!
As with any relationship one has with someone that doesn't speak your language. you are learning how to converse. each of you learns how to communicate better the more you communicate.. so this is awesome.. I am sure this will be 100% upgraded as this will be amazing for Teachers , students and researchers.. I spent 10 years researching for a college Professor back in the days of Card Catalogs.. THIS.. THIS is amazing information and a huge leap forward for people that will be coalescing information to write papers on. for NonFiction writers this will be awesome as well.
Thanks for doing this rundown! Notion has a similar AI function which I’ve been testing out on the story bible for my new series. It does similar things like not getting someone’s description, even though I have it clearly labeled. Seems like the models aren’t quite there yet, but when they do it’ll be a great tool, especially for longer series.
What’s the best platform that’ll let you feed your novel and spit out a summary of it? A story that is significantly more complex than a save the cat format.
The only thing it does really well it seems is scan PDFs. I tried half a million similar apps and websites, this is one of few that was able to take a complex PDF (in terms of text layout) and was able to grab all the core deadlines literally a few seconds after uploading. Most other websites found some of the deadlines, but this thing found everything. And it was a pdf over 100 pages as far as I remember.
When you upload documents to Claude, the TOTAL tokens is up to 200K. The NotebookLM can have a total of 50 sources and each source can have up to 500K tokens. The difference between them is like when you ask Claude a question, it will read the whole book and answer you, but for NotebookLM it will search relatable keywords, and based on all keyword's sourrdening text, combine them and provide you the answer, which mean it might miss some fine detail due to it didn't read the whole thing.
I've used it for about a year. I don't find it particularly effective for anything to do with fiction primarily because you can't rename a saved note. So you end up with a whole board of saved notes that are all titled saved note.
@@QuantumWriterVerse It has uses. M y comment is just that I don't find it particularly useful for the cases outlined in the video specifically because if you have more than a few saved notes, it gets too hard to see at a glance where your information is.
I learned about this over the past week. Spent the past weekend listening to tutorials. Tried to use it today and it did not work at all. Unable to use sources from Drive or PDF (yes, I double checked security settings). Did. Not. Work.
As a storyteller I am paranoid at this point with my work. Every time I turn around the story or main detail of my story ends up in a movie or another major plot line by another source. I do not think for a second that I am really that guy, and truly believe that I have been beat to the punch. However it is starting to feel more and more too coincidental for my sanity.
@@aouyiu i totally agree and do not think I am that guy but damn its getting to be exhausting. I just do not want my pre-released manuscripts to contribute to the language models database.
@@claudiameier666 And they are great writers because they didn't have ai. So where will our great writers come from that depend on ai? There won't be any.
@@TheNerdyNovelist ruclips.net/video/nK61ZpAS13s/видео.html however, researched a little more thoroughly. this is the only source. so you're right: it's NOT clear😭
11:25 "It doesn't appear to have a good way of actually looking through the book and gleaning tidbits of information as it goes along." Disappointing. That would be so useful!
Yeah even the large context windows of Claude aren’t great for this. The best way to do it is to go chapter by chapter and generate a structured breakdown of the chapter, then feeding THAT into the AI as a story bible.
This highlights the problem I have with Google's AI stuff, it always seems promising but winds up being "not exactly." It would be interesting to contrast this with the new Claude Projects. Thanks for doing this, though, as I really appreciate knowing how all these tools might apply to my workflow, even if they aren't quite there yet. I appreciate how thoroughly you go through the functions and use cases.
Very interesting. I tried the new Claude Projects, seems to be similar except that Claude Projects will not remember the context after you close the chat. The history is there but you can’t pick up the conversation again later.
NotebookLM seems to be useful like a database with easier access for information retrieval.
Thanks Jason for all of your hard work. You have got me addicted to Novelcrafter too.
Keep up the great work!
ClaudeAI is available to more people. To non-Americas, Google NoteLLM is currently useless.
Until Google cancels it.
well played...heh
I don't think that will happened
@@Content_Supermarketit’s almost guaranteed to happen.
@@fkxfkx in what bases are you telling this
@@Content_SupermarketHistory. We are more surprised by things they keep than things they cancel.
As with any relationship one has with someone that doesn't speak your language. you are learning how to converse. each of you learns how to communicate better the more you communicate.. so this is awesome.. I am sure this will be 100% upgraded as this will be amazing for Teachers , students and researchers.. I spent 10 years researching for a college Professor back in the days of Card Catalogs.. THIS.. THIS is amazing information and a huge leap forward for people that will be coalescing information to write papers on. for NonFiction writers this will be awesome as well.
Thanks for doing this rundown! Notion has a similar AI function which I’ve been testing out on the story bible for my new series. It does similar things like not getting someone’s description, even though I have it clearly labeled. Seems like the models aren’t quite there yet, but when they do it’ll be a great tool, especially for longer series.
What’s the best platform that’ll let you feed your novel and spit out a summary of it? A story that is significantly more complex than a save the cat format.
The only thing it does really well it seems is scan PDFs. I tried half a million similar apps and websites, this is one of few that was able to take a complex PDF (in terms of text layout) and was able to grab all the core deadlines literally a few seconds after uploading. Most other websites found some of the deadlines, but this thing found everything. And it was a pdf over 100 pages as far as I remember.
I'd really like to see this interface with Google Keep.
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Thanks for sharing!
Using it for my D&D game and I'm loving it.
I hope it stays niche and they don't charge. It's really great
I hope so
I feel we need to synopsize and format our data so the ML/AI models can better contextualize and have better consraints
I'm curious how this compares to Claude 3.5. You can upload documents and have it summarize as well. Is one better than the other?
When you upload documents to Claude, the TOTAL tokens is up to 200K. The NotebookLM can have a total of 50 sources and each source can have up to 500K tokens. The difference between them is like when you ask Claude a question, it will read the whole book and answer you, but for NotebookLM it will search relatable keywords, and based on all keyword's sourrdening text, combine them and provide you the answer, which mean it might miss some fine detail due to it didn't read the whole thing.
It's a wonderful idea.
I've used it for about a year. I don't find it particularly effective for anything to do with fiction primarily because you can't rename a saved note. So you end up with a whole board of saved notes that are all titled saved note.
I use it all the time when I’m researching information about subjects for my books and need to understand how they work or details.
@@QuantumWriterVerse It has uses. M y comment is just that I don't find it particularly useful for the cases outlined in the video specifically because if you have more than a few saved notes, it gets too hard to see at a glance where your information is.
Put the information into another app such as Obsidian?
Does notebook LM work on an iPad as well as windows laptop?
Interesting, any other AI note app options? Cause GG can cancel this
I learned about this over the past week. Spent the past weekend listening to tutorials. Tried to use it today and it did not work at all. Unable to use sources from Drive or PDF (yes, I double checked security settings). Did. Not. Work.
It's not working properly
Not yet available in non-EU Europe.
How secure is this tool? Is it only using your notebooks in a “local” sense by not leaving your account, or is it learning from your notebooks?
As a storyteller I am paranoid at this point with my work. Every time I turn around the story or main detail of my story ends up in a movie or another major plot line by another source. I do not think for a second that I am really that guy, and truly believe that I have been beat to the punch. However it is starting to feel more and more too coincidental for my sanity.
@@IronBear47 That's not what's happening to you now most likely, but it is a valid concern to have because work can and has got stolen.
@@aouyiu i totally agree and do not think I am that guy but damn its getting to be exhausting. I just do not want my pre-released manuscripts to contribute to the language models database.
I wonder if anyone thinks that writers like Steven King have altered their process one bit because of any of this ai stuff. I doubt it
Writers like Stephen King don’t need to.
@@TheNerdyNovelist They don't need to because they never had it. Get my point?
They don't need to because they are great writers
@@claudiameier666 And they are great writers because they didn't have ai. So where will our great writers come from that depend on ai? There won't be any.
Sorry, ive been screwed by google to many times. They start something then cancel it way to much.
Kind of like the Gemini Pro in Google Lab.
It uses Gemini Pro now.
thanks. however, it's not unclear. it uses RAG.
Where did you see this?
@@TheNerdyNovelist ruclips.net/video/nK61ZpAS13s/видео.html however, researched a little more thoroughly. this is the only source. so you're right: it's NOT clear😭
11:25 "It doesn't appear to have a good way of actually looking through the book and gleaning tidbits of information as it goes along."
Disappointing. That would be so useful!
Yeah even the large context windows of Claude aren’t great for this. The best way to do it is to go chapter by chapter and generate a structured breakdown of the chapter, then feeding THAT into the AI as a story bible.
Doesn’t seem to work well.
Happy with Notions built in AI, does all this and way more.
You are joking. Notion’s AI is staggeringly primitive.
Oh, wow. Notes, exciting. 😒
I would never understand why you would out yourself as being intellectually redundant on the internet. Yet here you are.
Considering Google's track record, I will not use their AI or search products. The political bias is ridiculous.
*This guy needs to clear his throat. Don't know how he doesn't mind that phlegm going up and down his throat. Revolting hearing it*
let's be civil, okay?
(This problem might have to do more with you than what's actually in the video.)
Do you come here for knowledge or for appearance
he just has a nasally voice. ive never heard him with a crystal clear voice so no amount of clearing his throat is going to fix it.
Can’t stand people like you who go for ad hominem attacks rather than focusing on the content. Seek therapy.
Chill, please…🤔