I have been writing "notes" on a book series for several years now. Tons and tons of worldbuilding, characters, and scenes. I am hoping this ai tool will help me bring it all together so I can finally make steps twards completing this monster. Thank you for making this video. I have a learning disability, so I will have to watch it several times over to get the information. However, I know your video is going to make a difference. So seriously, thank you.❤
Today I was struggling to get some conditional logic working with a custom prompt so I asked the NC AI support for the formatting of the endpoints.. within seconds, Leonie (founder and developer) hopped on the chat to give a more up-to-date response than the documentation had, thought of a better way to do what I was trying to do, and then wrote a new function to do it.. all while we were chatting! She sent me a screenshot of the code to see if it would work for my purpose.. which it would. Then she said it would be rolled out in the next update, haha. That was absolutely amazing. This new feature, combined with the fine-tuned GPT model I'm preparing, is going to be awesome. Thanks again for introducing me to Novelcrafter, I've been using it for a few weeks now and it's got me started back up on a novel that had been stalled for months.
@@christiannilsen2835 it’s just a fine-tuned gpt 3.5 model; it didn’t work as well as I’d wanted so now I’m using it to generate synthetic data for a new model. The first model suffered from 2 issues; over fitting of the training data, and excessive violence… there was nothing to that extent in the training data but I did reference a particular author in the training data user prompt to try and get a bit more of his style in the model and it really took that to heart… my new model is going to be much more curated. I’ve gotta say though, I’m a bit surprised at what this model is generating.. 😯
@@mob8033 how do you mean? I was asking how to implement something new (different prompt for dialogue-heavy scenes, specifically, without manually changing my prompt selection.. yes I’m lazy lol) and the developer saw the question and answered it, adding the functionality to the code.. I don’t see any privacy issues here..?
Just went down the rabbit hole and you helped me sooo sooo sooo much. I was floundering and so confused and trying to make NovelAI work for what I wanted and then I found your videos and they are pure gold. Now this morning I wake up excited to learn more about Novelcrafter and find you published this video. THANK YOU! Wish you were doing the consultation calls as I would absolutely do that.
I think I am addicted to chatting in NC. I have always just written little scenes or ideas and let my friends read them. They always seem to love them and have pressured me into trying to write a whole book. I have no idea what Im doing but Im having fun just brainstorming different things from within NC. What I need help with is how to grab all these little bits and bobs and make a plot out of them instead of chasing squirrels and rabbits down new holes all the time. Advice from anyone on this would be great. A video on how to develop a plot with AI inside NC would be amazing. I love your channel and thanks for all the helpful content you are putting out.
I was the same. What helped me was to develop two modes of thinking, one for outlining and one for more contextual situations. The key for me was realizing that outlining can be just as rewarding as chasing down different ideas, by freewriting the outline as I would a chapter or a section. I haven't tried NC yet in-depth, but my hope is that it will make that process even easier.
if ur starting out writing i recommend brandon sanderson free lectures on youtube (college lectures) they are high quality and yes, he is an amazing author!
Thanks so much! I spent the entire weekend on NovelCrafter and my opinion definitely changed from negative to positive. I went through the Codex again and set things up. I love this program especially for planning out a novel.
13:00 The slash command style comes from IRC (Internet Relay Chat). The clients used / character to denote a special action rather than a message. So this custom was born around ~1990-95. That said, it could be EVEN older because it is used in some UNIX text editors. And still this day is often in text editors functioning as command palette. But IRC truly solidified it.
The AI pricing can be a bit of a problem, because, yes, if you are writing a short story, there are not that many tokens and it is dirt cheap. BUT if you try writing an actual novel, the AI will get quite costly. I switched over to running my models locally using the LM Studio option of Novelcrafter. They are not as good and have a few problems with understanding prompts right, but I just retry a few times more and in the end you have to rewrite a lot of it anyway. Also, after a few scenes, no matter how good the model is, the AI output will look very similar and needs work. I have yet to find a way to get the AI to stop writing "he/she/it couldn't help it" into every few sentences.
My CPT keeps using the word "palpable" every couple pages. I have in the custom instructions "Do not use the word palpable anymore." Amazingly the a-hole still uses it. 😂 AI has a long way to go but I'm excited that I am at the frontier and will be miles ahead of others as it becomes more popular.
One thing to remember is that the actual Scene Beat generation prompt has to do a hell of a lot of work: analyze all the included Codex entries and previous scenes’ summaries plus the “story so far” (last X words in the scene), apply whatever Prose Style Guide you’re using, etc. Being a lot of tasks in one single prompt, the AI’s attention is divided between them all, so it performs each one worse. A good way to avoid it is focus on the best possible Prose Style you can get the AI to achieve, then using a “Rewrite” prompt specifically asking to rewrite what the AI just generated, to make it closer to your desired style (including words, phrases or clichés to avoid); since that second prompt only has that one task, it’ll perform it much better.
Question. If I'm already a GPT subscriber, am I still paying for the AI generation? Just trying to plan the pricing out. Already paying $20 for GPT. If I add NC that's $15 more plus the cost for AI generated content. That could get expensive very quickly.
Thank you so much introducing me to novel writing apps and got me back into writing you introduced me to novelcrafter I'm super excited this program exist
This made getting started very simple. I followed with you step by step and step and now things are running smoothly. Thank you so much Nerdy Novelist.
Just got stared with NC and I have to say it blows Sudowrite out the water in every way. I was extremely frustrated with SW for just not sticking to the order or contents of my beats, no matter how I prompted it with added instructions in the beat field. Apart from allowing you to experiment with a whole range of models using openrouter, NC is entirely open about its system prompts, which result in clean, no-fluff prose out the box, even without any style instructions, though you can add these, as well as edit the prompts for each of the models. SW's black box approach (and extreme character cap in the story bible fields, esp re "style") makes output very hit or miss, and adding lots of extra style instructions above the beats, if it does anything at all, doesn't always yield better prose, either. I'm also not convinced SW's change from words to token credits hasn't made Claude-generated Best Prose more expensive than it already was, which combined with the very erratic output means NC is clearly the superior AI-assisted writing app now
@@bugwar5545 In NC it's in the Prose Style Guide codex. In SW there's the very limited style field limited to 40 characters. I tried adding some more [instructions] above the story beats, but this did not always yield satisfactory results
@@bugwar5545 The NC RUclips channel has some very good introductory tutorials, so I'd recommend you check those if you haven't already. I'm still tinkering with NC trying to figure out what works best for me. Nerdy Novelists default style prompt (show more than tell, realistic dialogue, no mushy descriptions etc) works well enough, but I've been looking to get a bit more specific. For example, I feel AI tends to start with runup sentences quite a bit more than I like to see in fiction (likely because trained on so much nonfiction where this is quite common) so I'll add an instruction to mostly start sentences with the grammatical subject. But I've found more elaborate instructions aren't always followed and don't always result in better prose. This might have to do with the system prompts of NC already providing a style framework - if you check, you'll see many of the standard style instructions (show don't tell, etc) are already in the system prompt for that particular model.
First, I would love to thank you for all the content you have provided that has helped enrich my life as a developing writer. I wanted to express that Novelcrafter can also be used efficiently with nonfiction as well. I have cloned the prompts to design nonfiction versions of them using ChatGPT to help me with the wording (and making sure to leave the colored coding aspects alone since those are functionally important for the system). Then, instead of the standard Codex entries, I added all of my glossary terms, which I derived using ChatGPT by reading my Outline chapter by Chapter and asking for them. Then, once I made sure my nonfiction book's Outline Chapters were separated into sections, each with multiple bullet points, I used each Section as a Scene in Novelcrafter, and the set of bullet points as Beats. And, voilà, since there is little linear progression in a nonfiction book since each chapter is designed to emphasize a topic and each Section is designed to emphasize a subtopic within, there is little editing to do since new concepts don't contradict the whole, they usually add to them.
Oh yeah, I also had to make sure I inputted an accurate description of my genre, pointing out that it is nonfiction. And, I made sure to input an accurate description of the style of writing that I desired the book to be written in, which I used ChatGPT to help me describe the style (without using the author's name) of my favorite author in that genre. I also used ChatGPT to help me Categorize my Glossary Terms, which I used as my Tags/Labels. I guess I could have also adjusted the prompt for the chatbot, but I don't use that, and I guess I could have adjusted the Detect Characters option in the Summary section to Detect Glossary Terms as well, but it is something to consider.
I was just about to to give up using OpenAI to help me write because I get so frustrated that it doesn't remember everything I upload, ie: The setting, scenario, character list with description, outline, etc. Even GPT4 will bring in the antagonist character as a friend of the protagonist even when they are trying to kill each other. I get shocked that just a few pages before it clearly knew the roles of the characters. Do you think NovelCrafter keeps the information more organized so that the AI doesn't get so confused? It seems like it brings the information you are writing about to the front of it's attention instead of all the information I uploaded 50 pages ago. You advice will highly influence me to continue trying. You have been a great inspiration. 👍
Novelcrafter’s Codex does allow quite a bit of organization of your information (characters, places, concepts, etc.) and even automatization (make some Codex entries pull others, or even have some always present); besides that, as you develop the novel it’s a good idea to have each scene’s summary, since that too will be sent to the API, up to the point of the scene you’re generating at the moment. The main advantage is that it’s all stored and ready for retrieval-even selectively (and thus saving tokens), since for each scene it won’t pull Codex entries not mentioned in that scene. So the only trick is to keep filling your Codex and scene summaries, since otherwise it would be too inefficient to rely on the AI remembering all of the actual prose up to that point.
Great content in this video thank you so much! I created a Global Entry and called it Novel Summary, pasted my summary into here as I couldn't find anywhere else suitable. I am assuming the AI will pick up on this throughout the story. I also did as suggested to help create bullet point summaries for each chapter. This helped me think more about the structure and guide my scene beats.
Slash commands were first introduced with CLI operating systems like Linux ages ago. Then the video game EverQuest started using them, and since that was such a hit, they started showing up in all kinds of other games and applications.
A lot of useful information. Question - I did not see anything about VOICE other than POV. Is there a way to force or nudge Novel Crafter to write in the sylistic voice of another author, such as Jules Verne, E.A. Poe or Dr Seuss etc.?
Thanks for all your videos! I am one of those "perpetually starting, but never finishing a novel" types who is looking to AI to get me through the specific hurdles that always trip me up. Specifically, I have a lot of scenes that are written and like, but need the support which makes a chapter complete. Now my question is can the AI programs like NC suggest prose that incorporates those scene fragments I have already written and want to keep, but still keep the story as a whole making sense, flowing smoothly, etc? I understand some rewriting will likely need to be done, but was wondering if that scenario works reasonably well, or does NC and the others not know how to handle that? Thanks!
When you select an AI model to generate text, there's a menu that pops up with a lot of options. Those options appear in order which I believe is chosen by Novelcrafter's developer, with the most well-proven and widely useful options at the top of the list and the more specialized or experimental ones toward the bottom. In my experience, I've had great results from Claude 2. When I tinkered with models further down the list, they seemed to get confused easily.
Everyone has a fave, but Claude 2, GPT 3.5 and GPT 4 seem to be the favorites for filtered/moderated models. For unfiltered, I'm liking Mistral Medium, and I've heard good things about bagel.
Does Novelcraft maintain writing consistency by paying attention to the detailed outlines and the intricately developed characters, knowing where the story is headed and what has been written before? As a result, does the entire narrative come out cohesive?
I have a series of books I have been working on for a few yrs. The problem is that I keep adding or changing things randomly. I am wondering if you can suggest the best free or lowest-cost AI program that will help me organize what I have. I labeled what I have between books but not individual scenes on various Word files. Also, I am learning but not completely understanding everything you mentioned about Novelcrafter. So kind of technically behind a bit. Any advice is helpful.
Have you ever tried Wordware AI? I put in a prompt to them earlier and it generated out a somewhat decent ten chapter text. I was wondering if I could extend this into a fuller book. I need to put more of my own spin on it if course. I already had the basic idea and put in just a few sentences of what I had in mind and was quite surprised that they gave me fully a fleshed out story. Chapter by chapter
I do like your vids and such, they can be helpful, but I'm more of a pantser in writing style, so am specifically wondering about how to best use these tools like this.
your videos have opened my eyes to the tools I need. I will opt in to wordcrafter. Do you have an affiliate arrangement? if so than I would like you to get your affiliate commission.
Do you think noverlcrafter is better than Scrivener for managing your writing and writing a novel? I write in scrivener and only recently started using Claude to brainstorm and edit. Is novelcrafter good for just sitting down and writing? And eventually run chapters through some AI? Or should i9 stick with scrivener? Or something else?
I wrote my fantasy novels. I'm looking for a software/app/A.I. that will help me organize an encyclopedia of my fantasy world. ie. A template for an encyclopedia.
Great video. Thank you for this insight. If you’ve already written a rough draft, can you input it and have it proofread, edit or rewrite for better quality?
So I'm a heavy outliner (my favorite part) and go all the way down to outlining each scene in detail. For this writing process, I suppose I would ask the chat to generate prose for a scene based on the scene outline I would provide?
Generally, it takes multiple beats to write a single scene. For some, that might be 3, for others 8, etc. I personally like this because you have more control over what happens.
I'd love you do one of your, write a book in one month, using Novelcrafter. That would for sure be a great month. But thanks to you I'm still a Claude Stan 😅
@@TheNerdyNovelist thank you in advance You have a way how you write that I have to admit, it creates discipline in anybody that chooses to learn from you.
Thank you for all your excellent videos! You mention in this one that you created a whole video on the Novelcrafter Codex. I'm not finding it. :/ Can you drop a link to it here?
So, basically, we are double-paying if I'm correct...? We must pay for Novelcrafter ($14) and then an additional $5 or more for Open Router? Still not bad, but is that the case to use this? Thanks --
I subscribed to Claude Pro. I then connected to Open Router through Novel Crafter. Claude 3 Optus is listed, but it says I have 0 credits. Does this mean I have to pay Open Router and Anthropic or should I unsubscribe from Claude Pro and just pay Open Router? I little confused by this.
I am having difficulty getting started. The accounts have been set up in OpenAI, Open Router, Billing for Novelcrafter, and GPT4. But can not see the Plan - Grid page it has nothing on the NovelCrafter where you can choose actions. Is there someone that can coach an old lady on what I am doing wrong? I have reached a pull your hair out stage, Help!
Is novelcrafter where I change it to screenplay mode upload my 90 page script and kind of divide each of 3 acts into 10 scenes maybe 30 beats and subjext so one beat is one page. So it’s like 90 chapters for 90 pages. like Claude opus is best for this? Or storyprism or novelai? Novelrafter is best? Because of Claude opus memory?
Weird question, but I put my api in, but for some reason it doesn't let me use chat-gpt 4 though I already have an account for it. I can only use 3.5. Do you know where or how to switch this?
Why is it important to mark the key down? Before realizing there was a way to copy paste the info from one computer to the next, I just generated a new key every time I went on a new computer. Is there a reason to care about any particular key?
Hi. Thanks for the video, good one. I downloaded the fine tuned model but the file doesn’t seem to have anything on it and I cant get it to open on OpenAI. Now I have an Ipad Pro as my only computer so it could be that the file reads the ipad as a mobile device?
Hey Nerdy thank you for the video. Have one question, I’m using Novercrafter, and I have, for example, a creature called Nightmare. But every time a write nightmare (dream), the word is outlined, and Novelcrafter thinks I’m talking about the creature. I can uncheck the box that hides the creature from de AI, but there is another way?
Yeah, I have a similar issue with 'chaos'. I have a codex entry for the word associating it with a pantheon of gods, but if I describe a action scene as having a lot of chaos, it underlines the word. I cannot tell which definition the AI is using under the hood.
Could you elaborate how that's the case? I'm just learning this tool, but how does Gemini and Open AI improve on this? Are you just having book length chats?
Is Chat GPT super sensitive with content? I keep using it to help me with my book, and it keeps saying that I might be violating their content policy I can't figure out what they're talking about or what they're referring to. I don't think I'm using many swear words or things like that if that's what they're talking about but I don't know what the problem is
Thanks for this video, quick question I write dialogue is there a quick way to insert that in to Novel Writer or Novel Crafter (have both) and use AI to create the using my Dialogue?
Is there a way to make Novelcrafter continue writing from the point it stopped writing like there is in sudowrite. I am trying out novelcrafter and sometimes the ai stops writing midsentence and does not finish writing the prose for the scene beat. The /continue command does not work properly in most cases.
Just wrote my first one as a test in NC, so I don't see why not. Only thing to be aware of is the NC default system prompt ia set to generate 900 words of prose per beat, so you'll have to adjust that, or go with models that cap at 300 words, if you don't want to manually delete half the output every time. This, apart from the more general fact that good short stories are intricate little constructs where every word should do something, so they may require a bit more planning and editing
Is there any AI program where I could just put in my novel and it will edit and fix? I've been writing a novel for years and I just need to get it done it's driving me nuts lol
I am assuming your getting paid for this because i tried Novel Crafter and it is a piece of garbage. I did the cast of characters, locations and the sort. Not only is it very expensive to use with the Airouter, the AI does not access the information located in the character files. And everytime you get the AI to make a responce you are charged money. It may only be a few cents per request but it will quickly add up.
Novelcrafter has an option to preview the prompt that’s sent to the AI, to see if it’s including your Codex entries; it could be that you’re not using correctly the keywords function (which is what determines what’s sent to the AI), and this way you can see if that’s what’s happening to you. As for costs… *all* AIs cost, except a few ones (also available through OpenRouter) that for different reasons are free at the moment; but they’re not the best. Other than that, all of them have a cost, in Novelcrafter or in Sudowrite or NovelAI or, at least if you want the best versions of each model, in *all* other generative models out there. Someone has to pay for the servers running to generate your prose ;)
This guy has the best tutorials for NovelCrafter. He is the reason why I switched from SudoWrite to NovelCrafter.
I have been writing "notes" on a book series for several years now. Tons and tons of worldbuilding, characters, and scenes. I am hoping this ai tool will help me bring it all together so I can finally make steps twards completing this monster.
Thank you for making this video.
I have a learning disability, so I will have to watch it several times over to get the information. However, I know your video is going to make a difference. So seriously, thank you.❤
Today I was struggling to get some conditional logic working with a custom prompt so I asked the NC AI support for the formatting of the endpoints.. within seconds, Leonie (founder and developer) hopped on the chat to give a more up-to-date response than the documentation had, thought of a better way to do what I was trying to do, and then wrote a new function to do it.. all while we were chatting! She sent me a screenshot of the code to see if it would work for my purpose.. which it would. Then she said it would be rolled out in the next update, haha. That was absolutely amazing. This new feature, combined with the fine-tuned GPT model I'm preparing, is going to be awesome. Thanks again for introducing me to Novelcrafter, I've been using it for a few weeks now and it's got me started back up on a novel that had been stalled for months.
I am curious about the GPT you are making, care to share?
@@christiannilsen2835 it’s just a fine-tuned gpt 3.5 model; it didn’t work as well as I’d wanted so now I’m using it to generate synthetic data for a new model. The first model suffered from 2 issues; over fitting of the training data, and excessive violence… there was nothing to that extent in the training data but I did reference a particular author in the training data user prompt to try and get a bit more of his style in the model and it really took that to heart… my new model is going to be much more curated. I’ve gotta say though, I’m a bit surprised at what this model is generating.. 😯
I’ve read the TOS and I thought user privacy was valued? Isn’t Leonie violating TOS?
@@mob8033 how do you mean? I was asking how to implement something new (different prompt for dialogue-heavy scenes, specifically, without manually changing my prompt selection.. yes I’m lazy lol) and the developer saw the question and answered it, adding the functionality to the code.. I don’t see any privacy issues here..?
Just went down the rabbit hole and you helped me sooo sooo sooo much. I was floundering and so confused and trying to make NovelAI work for what I wanted and then I found your videos and they are pure gold. Now this morning I wake up excited to learn more about Novelcrafter and find you published this video. THANK YOU! Wish you were doing the consultation calls as I would absolutely do that.
Awesome! Glad I could help.
I think I am addicted to chatting in NC. I have always just written little scenes or ideas and let my friends read them. They always seem to love them and have pressured me into trying to write a whole book. I have no idea what Im doing but Im having fun just brainstorming different things from within NC. What I need help with is how to grab all these little bits and bobs and make a plot out of them instead of chasing squirrels and rabbits down new holes all the time. Advice from anyone on this would be great. A video on how to develop a plot with AI inside NC would be amazing. I love your channel and thanks for all the helpful content you are putting out.
I was the same. What helped me was to develop two modes of thinking, one for outlining and one for more contextual situations. The key for me was realizing that outlining can be just as rewarding as chasing down different ideas, by freewriting the outline as I would a chapter or a section. I haven't tried NC yet in-depth, but my hope is that it will make that process even easier.
if ur starting out writing i recommend brandon sanderson free lectures on youtube (college lectures)
they are high quality and yes, he is an amazing author!
Thanks so much! I spent the entire weekend on NovelCrafter and my opinion definitely changed from negative to positive. I went through the Codex again and set things up. I love this program especially for planning out a novel.
Yeah that’s where it excels.
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The AI pricing can be a bit of a problem, because, yes, if you are writing a short story, there are not that many tokens and it is dirt cheap.
BUT if you try writing an actual novel, the AI will get quite costly.
I switched over to running my models locally using the LM Studio option of Novelcrafter. They are not as good and have a few problems with understanding prompts right, but I just retry a few times more and in the end you have to rewrite a lot of it anyway. Also, after a few scenes, no matter how good the model is, the AI output will look very similar and needs work. I have yet to find a way to get the AI to stop writing "he/she/it couldn't help it" into every few sentences.
My CPT keeps using the word "palpable" every couple pages. I have in the custom instructions "Do not use the word palpable anymore." Amazingly the a-hole still uses it. 😂 AI has a long way to go but I'm excited that I am at the frontier and will be miles ahead of others as it becomes more popular.
One thing to remember is that the actual Scene Beat generation prompt has to do a hell of a lot of work: analyze all the included Codex entries and previous scenes’ summaries plus the “story so far” (last X words in the scene), apply whatever Prose Style Guide you’re using, etc. Being a lot of tasks in one single prompt, the AI’s attention is divided between them all, so it performs each one worse. A good way to avoid it is focus on the best possible Prose Style you can get the AI to achieve, then using a “Rewrite” prompt specifically asking to rewrite what the AI just generated, to make it closer to your desired style (including words, phrases or clichés to avoid); since that second prompt only has that one task, it’ll perform it much better.
@@LandareeLeveeNice point. Where is the ' Prose Style Guide' located? I do not see such a feature.
Question. If I'm already a GPT subscriber, am I still paying for the AI generation? Just trying to plan the pricing out. Already paying $20 for GPT. If I add NC that's $15 more plus the cost for AI generated content. That could get expensive very quickly.
Thank you so much introducing me to novel writing apps and got me back into writing you introduced me to novelcrafter I'm super excited this program exist
This made getting started very simple. I followed with you step by step and step and now things are running smoothly. Thank you so much Nerdy Novelist.
Just got stared with NC and I have to say it blows Sudowrite out the water in every way. I was extremely frustrated with SW for just not sticking to the order or contents of my beats, no matter how I prompted it with added instructions in the beat field. Apart from allowing you to experiment with a whole range of models using openrouter, NC is entirely open about its system prompts, which result in clean, no-fluff prose out the box, even without any style instructions, though you can add these, as well as edit the prompts for each of the models. SW's black box approach (and extreme character cap in the story bible fields, esp re "style") makes output very hit or miss, and adding lots of extra style instructions above the beats, if it does anything at all, doesn't always yield better prose, either. I'm also not convinced SW's change from words to token credits hasn't made Claude-generated Best Prose more expensive than it already was, which combined with the very erratic output means NC is clearly the superior AI-assisted writing app now
Glad you like it.
You mention 'style instructions'. Where are those at?
@@bugwar5545 In NC it's in the Prose Style Guide codex. In SW there's the very limited style field limited to 40 characters. I tried adding some more [instructions] above the story beats, but this did not always yield satisfactory results
@@ariekanibalieThank you. Have you seen any examples of the content that actually goes into the codex entry?
@@bugwar5545 The NC RUclips channel has some very good introductory tutorials, so I'd recommend you check those if you haven't already. I'm still tinkering with NC trying to figure out what works best for me. Nerdy Novelists default style prompt (show more than tell, realistic dialogue, no mushy descriptions etc) works well enough, but I've been looking to get a bit more specific. For example, I feel AI tends to start with runup sentences quite a bit more than I like to see in fiction (likely because trained on so much nonfiction where this is quite common) so I'll add an instruction to mostly start sentences with the grammatical subject. But I've found more elaborate instructions aren't always followed and don't always result in better prose. This might have to do with the system prompts of NC already providing a style framework - if you check, you'll see many of the standard style instructions (show don't tell, etc) are already in the system prompt for that particular model.
First, I would love to thank you for all the content you have provided that has helped enrich my life as a developing writer. I wanted to express that Novelcrafter can also be used efficiently with nonfiction as well. I have cloned the prompts to design nonfiction versions of them using ChatGPT to help me with the wording (and making sure to leave the colored coding aspects alone since those are functionally important for the system). Then, instead of the standard Codex entries, I added all of my glossary terms, which I derived using ChatGPT by reading my Outline chapter by Chapter and asking for them. Then, once I made sure my nonfiction book's Outline Chapters were separated into sections, each with multiple bullet points, I used each Section as a Scene in Novelcrafter, and the set of bullet points as Beats. And, voilà, since there is little linear progression in a nonfiction book since each chapter is designed to emphasize a topic and each Section is designed to emphasize a subtopic within, there is little editing to do since new concepts don't contradict the whole, they usually add to them.
Oh yeah, I also had to make sure I inputted an accurate description of my genre, pointing out that it is nonfiction. And, I made sure to input an accurate description of the style of writing that I desired the book to be written in, which I used ChatGPT to help me describe the style (without using the author's name) of my favorite author in that genre. I also used ChatGPT to help me Categorize my Glossary Terms, which I used as my Tags/Labels. I guess I could have also adjusted the prompt for the chatbot, but I don't use that, and I guess I could have adjusted the Detect Characters option in the Summary section to Detect Glossary Terms as well, but it is something to consider.
Slash commands date from Supercalc that I used in 1986!
Cool!
I was just about to to give up using OpenAI to help me write because I get so frustrated that it doesn't remember everything I upload, ie: The setting, scenario, character list with description, outline, etc. Even GPT4 will bring in the antagonist character as a friend of the protagonist even when they are trying to kill each other. I get shocked that just a few pages before it clearly knew the roles of the characters. Do you think NovelCrafter keeps the information more organized so that the AI doesn't get so confused? It seems like it brings the information you are writing about to the front of it's attention instead of all the information I uploaded 50 pages ago. You advice will highly influence me to continue trying. You have been a great inspiration. 👍
Novelcrafter’s Codex does allow quite a bit of organization of your information (characters, places, concepts, etc.) and even automatization (make some Codex entries pull others, or even have some always present); besides that, as you develop the novel it’s a good idea to have each scene’s summary, since that too will be sent to the API, up to the point of the scene you’re generating at the moment. The main advantage is that it’s all stored and ready for retrieval-even selectively (and thus saving tokens), since for each scene it won’t pull Codex entries not mentioned in that scene. So the only trick is to keep filling your Codex and scene summaries, since otherwise it would be too inefficient to rely on the AI remembering all of the actual prose up to that point.
@@LandareeLeveeThanks.
Great content in this video thank you so much! I created a Global Entry and called it Novel Summary, pasted my summary into here as I couldn't find anywhere else suitable. I am assuming the AI will pick up on this throughout the story. I also did as suggested to help create bullet point summaries for each chapter. This helped me think more about the structure and guide my scene beats.
Which A.I. would you suggest for writing comedy, and Mysteries?
Slash commands were first introduced with CLI operating systems like Linux ages ago. Then the video game EverQuest started using them, and since that was such a hit, they started showing up in all kinds of other games and applications.
This is super useful thanks!
A lot of useful information. Question - I did not see anything about VOICE other than POV. Is there a way to force or nudge Novel Crafter to write in the sylistic voice of another author, such as Jules Verne, E.A. Poe or Dr Seuss etc.?
Thanks for all your videos! I am one of those "perpetually starting, but never finishing a novel" types who is looking to AI to get me through the specific hurdles that always trip me up. Specifically, I have a lot of scenes that are written and like, but need the support which makes a chapter complete. Now my question is can the AI programs like NC suggest prose that incorporates those scene fragments I have already written and want to keep, but still keep the story as a whole making sense, flowing smoothly, etc? I understand some rewriting will likely need to be done, but was wondering if that scenario works reasonably well, or does NC and the others not know how to handle that? Thanks!
If cost isn’t really an issue, which AI would you use for prose inside NovelCrafter (eg chatGPT 4, Claude … and, which version)?
Claude 2 is just the best in my mind. Some others work well enough but I feel like I don't see the point in accepting something substandard
When you select an AI model to generate text, there's a menu that pops up with a lot of options. Those options appear in order which I believe is chosen by Novelcrafter's developer, with the most well-proven and widely useful options at the top of the list and the more specialized or experimental ones toward the bottom. In my experience, I've had great results from Claude 2. When I tinkered with models further down the list, they seemed to get confused easily.
Everyone has a fave, but Claude 2, GPT 3.5 and GPT 4 seem to be the favorites for filtered/moderated models. For unfiltered, I'm liking Mistral Medium, and I've heard good things about bagel.
Claude 2.0 for most things.
Thanks for sharing. Does Novelcrafter read text also?
Question. Do you need to have a subscription for OpenAI GPT 4 to be included in the API Key?
Does Novelcraft maintain writing consistency by paying attention to the detailed outlines and the intricately developed characters, knowing where the story is headed and what has been written before? As a result, does the entire narrative come out cohesive?
It does about as well as AI can do. Not perfect but that’s the AIs fault not Novelcrafters.
I have a series of books I have been working on for a few yrs. The problem is that I keep adding or changing things randomly. I am wondering if you can suggest the best free or lowest-cost AI program that will help me organize what I have. I labeled what I have between books but not individual scenes on various Word files. Also, I am learning but not completely understanding everything you mentioned about Novelcrafter. So kind of technically behind a bit. Any advice is helpful.
Have you ever tried Wordware AI? I put in a prompt to them earlier and it generated out a somewhat decent ten chapter text. I was wondering if I could extend this into a fuller book. I need to put more of my own spin on it if course. I already had the basic idea and put in just a few sentences of what I had in mind and was quite surprised that they gave me fully a fleshed out story. Chapter by chapter
I do like your vids and such, they can be helpful, but I'm more of a pantser in writing style, so am specifically wondering about how to best use these tools like this.
your videos have opened my eyes to the tools I need. I will opt in to wordcrafter. Do you have an affiliate arrangement? if so than I would like you to get your affiliate commission.
How secure are the stories one writes using NovelCrafter, Claude, Chat… etc. ?
Can these AI softwares leak your ideas and stories?
NovelCrafter promises not to do that.
@@markhagan3653 That’s Good News To Hear. Thanks!☺️
Do you think noverlcrafter is better than Scrivener for managing your writing and writing a novel? I write in scrivener and only recently started using Claude to brainstorm and edit. Is novelcrafter good for just sitting down and writing? And eventually run chapters through some AI? Or should i9 stick with scrivener? Or something else?
I wrote my fantasy novels. I'm looking for a software/app/A.I. that will help me organize an encyclopedia of my fantasy world. ie. A template for an encyclopedia.
Great video. Thank you for this insight. If you’ve already written a rough draft, can you input it and have it proofread, edit or rewrite for better quality?
So I'm a heavy outliner (my favorite part) and go all the way down to outlining each scene in detail. For this writing process, I suppose I would ask the chat to generate prose for a scene based on the scene outline I would provide?
Also looks like this can be done with scene beats too.
Generally, it takes multiple beats to write a single scene. For some, that might be 3, for others 8, etc. I personally like this because you have more control over what happens.
@@blinkofaneye4451 Thanks for the info. I was a bit confused on the relation to beats and scenes, and if a scene contains multiple beats.
@@tripperm10011972 Yes, scenes should generally contain multiple beats :)
Help..ive done everything from your video but im still not able to use the chat
I'd love you do one of your, write a book in one month, using Novelcrafter. That would for sure be a great month.
But thanks to you I'm still a Claude Stan 😅
Might not be live streamed, but I plan on doing something like that.
@@TheNerdyNovelist thank you in advance
You have a way how you write that I have to admit, it creates discipline in anybody that chooses to learn from you.
Thank you for all your excellent videos! You mention in this one that you created a whole video on the Novelcrafter Codex. I'm not finding it. :/ Can you drop a link to it here?
I think it is his video "The Best Feature in Novelcrafter". It is on his Novelcrafter playlist.
Mind blown 🤯 I need to get this today 😮
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are the 20 dollar features available and if not can you let us know when they are?
Question: If I'm already a GPT subscriber, will I still be charged for each character generated?
I am not clear on how to leverage "Lore." Can you one day make a video on that? Thanks.
Just any background info that you’d like to mark down for yourself, or context you’d like the AI to know.
So, basically, we are double-paying if I'm correct...? We must pay for Novelcrafter ($14) and then an additional $5 or more for Open Router? Still not bad, but is that the case to use this? Thanks --
I subscribed to Claude Pro. I then connected to Open Router through Novel Crafter. Claude 3 Optus is listed, but it says I have 0 credits. Does this mean I have to pay Open Router and Anthropic or should I unsubscribe from Claude Pro and just pay Open Router? I little confused by this.
I am having difficulty getting started. The accounts have been set up in OpenAI, Open Router, Billing for Novelcrafter, and GPT4. But can not see the Plan - Grid page it has nothing on the NovelCrafter where you can choose actions. Is there someone that can coach an old lady on what I am doing wrong? I have reached a pull your hair out stage, Help!
Can I use Novelcrafter to create self help books?
Is novelcrafter where I change it to screenplay mode upload my 90 page script and kind of divide each of 3 acts into 10 scenes maybe 30 beats and subjext so one beat is one page. So it’s like 90 chapters for 90 pages. like Claude opus is best for this? Or storyprism or novelai? Novelrafter is best? Because of Claude opus memory?
ok when i try to paste my outline it keeps saying that i need to set up a vendor how do i do that
I feel like an idiot. I used Claude opus to brainstorm and used over $3 of credit. 😢 Is there a video that shows which llm to use for what?
Does it work for those who want to write in French
Weird question, but I put my api in, but for some reason it doesn't let me use chat-gpt 4 though I already have an account for it. I can only use 3.5. Do you know where or how to switch this?
Discord started me off with / commands. Not sure if that is the original source though.
Can novelcrafter be used for screen plays? Or is there a better alternative?
Why is it important to mark the key down? Before realizing there was a way to copy paste the info from one computer to the next, I just generated a new key every time I went on a new computer. Is there a reason to care about any particular key?
I suppose you don’t have to. I just prefer to be more minimalist I guess.
Hi. Thanks for the video, good one. I downloaded the fine tuned model but the file doesn’t seem to have anything on it and I cant get it to open on OpenAI. Now I have an Ipad Pro as my only computer so it could be that the file reads the ipad as a mobile device?
Hey Nerdy thank you for the video. Have one question, I’m using Novercrafter, and I have, for example, a creature called Nightmare. But every time a write nightmare (dream), the word is outlined, and Novelcrafter thinks I’m talking about the creature. I can uncheck the box that hides the creature from de AI, but there is another way?
Yeah, I have a similar issue with 'chaos'. I have a codex entry for the word associating it with a pantheon of gods, but if I describe a action scene as having a lot of chaos, it underlines the word. I cannot tell which definition the AI is using under the hood.
Do you think it would work for movie scripts?
Yeah, Novelcraft is not for me. I'm learning that using Google's Gemini 1.5 together with Open Ai are much more user friendly and helpful.
Could you elaborate how that's the case? I'm just learning this tool, but how does Gemini and Open AI improve on this? Are you just having book length chats?
Is Chat GPT super sensitive with content? I keep using it to help me with my book, and it keeps saying that I might be violating their content policy I can't figure out what they're talking about or what they're referring to. I don't think I'm using many swear words or things like that if that's what they're talking about but I don't know what the problem is
If I added the Open AI API Key a while ago will it automatically update in Novel Crafter to give me access to CHAT GPT 4o?
Yep it should already be there.
Thank you, I appreciate your help!
Thanks for this video, quick question I write dialogue is there a quick way to insert that in to Novel Writer or Novel Crafter (have both) and use AI to create the using my Dialogue?
Technically yes though you’d have to create some new prompts. I’ll be doing a video on setting up your own prompts in NC soon.
Thanks for the reply@@TheNerdyNovelist
To Connect Claude 2.1 API u need pro plan on Claude or u can bring api Via Poe or ?
You can connect to Claude 2.1 via OpenRouter.
Is there a way to make Novelcrafter continue writing from the point it stopped writing like there is in sudowrite. I am trying out novelcrafter and sometimes the ai stops writing midsentence and does not finish writing the prose for the scene beat. The /continue command does not work properly in most cases.
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how did you edit the prompt for your show vs tell?
Great video, thank you! Have you tried Novelcrafter for short story, do you think that could work?
Just wrote my first one as a test in NC, so I don't see why not. Only thing to be aware of is the NC default system prompt ia set to generate 900 words of prose per beat, so you'll have to adjust that, or go with models that cap at 300 words, if you don't want to manually delete half the output every time. This, apart from the more general fact that good short stories are intricate little constructs where every word should do something, so they may require a bit more planning and editing
I've written several short stories using NC and it works great! My short stories are around 5,000 words and each one is a single-scene chapter.
Yep it absolutely could!
Is there any AI program where I could just put in my novel and it will edit and fix? I've been writing a novel for years and I just need to get it done it's driving me nuts lol
Editing is not AI’s strong suit. I recommend a human editor.
@@TheNerdyNovelist what about to fill in plot holes, etc?
Hmm. Thanks.
*novelcrafter
Terrible UX / UI
I am assuming your getting paid for this because i tried Novel Crafter and it is a piece of garbage. I did the cast of characters, locations and the sort. Not only is it very expensive to use with the Airouter, the AI does not access the information located in the character files. And everytime you get the AI to make a responce you are charged money. It may only be a few cents per request but it will quickly add up.
Novelcrafter has an option to preview the prompt that’s sent to the AI, to see if it’s including your Codex entries; it could be that you’re not using correctly the keywords function (which is what determines what’s sent to the AI), and this way you can see if that’s what’s happening to you.
As for costs… *all* AIs cost, except a few ones (also available through OpenRouter) that for different reasons are free at the moment; but they’re not the best. Other than that, all of them have a cost, in Novelcrafter or in Sudowrite or NovelAI or, at least if you want the best versions of each model, in *all* other generative models out there. Someone has to pay for the servers running to generate your prose ;)
Please stop with the soy boy, mouth open thumbnails…they are so off-putting