Haha yep! It’s amazing what pro deals, second hand purchases, and having friends with extra gear can get you. I’m hoping to give people helpful information before they feel like they have to run out and spend a couple grand on gear.
I've spent a lot of time winter camping in my 3-Season tent. In my opinion, 3-Season tent are WAY more versatile than you think and can be used YEAR-ROUND. 4-Season Tents are best reserved for high altitude, alpine trips. Save your money!
I have the same tent but in 2 persons size , about 8 pounds but I never carry it in my backpack in winter as I do use a sled ( pulk ) to bring the gear to destination. I also use it for canoe trip ( with no portage) in early Spring or late fall for when the weather is changing every half hour . That tent is not easy to set rapidly because of the numbers of poles needed to raise it up . But once installed you feel that anything can happen and you will be safe. I once had 12 inches of wet snow during the night and the tent held well without knocking the snow off because I was sleeping . Thanks for the video
@@neil57able1 well sure , its the Marmot Thor 3 persons tent that he has in the video . I own the 2 person version. He has the link in his description .
You can also get a decent tipi tent that will be pretty light weight and inexpensive. Lots of people in my area use them to hunt in the really cold weather. Awesome video. Blessings!!!
Do you remember the 3-person (really 2 person with storage space) dome tents from the 80s? Solid nylon walls, full rain flys that go down to the ground, fiberglass poles, screened windows &doors with full nylon panels. 6 lbs.
What about a "warm" tent that is not going to be snowed on and wont have wind? How about something that is thicker material and yet still has ventilation? what would that tent be called? I mean, the 3 season tents have lots of mesh but I need something for 20 F?
Hey, I am a rookie camper and have been trying out some colder temperatures with my 3 and 5 year old. I am looking to make some future purchases and I was wondering if you would recommend a hot tent or possibly a propane heater?
Couple of tho'ts: 1st, that the demo tent is not only for winter, it's for open, un-sheltered campsites. Would pitch my double-wall 1-man tent (2lb) under my tarp (1lb) and stake the hell out of it and feel safe BUT -- in those woods behind you. 2d, that you've got a 2man tent why is one person carrying both tent and poles? Prob'ly could be made two 5lb sacks. So weigh not a deal breaker. And THANX! Enjoyed it.
Hello! I just bought cross country skis and some different equipment to start winter cold camping. I’ve been hot tenting on my snowmobile for several years. I was wondering if you have ever hit tented and if you were possibly going to try it considering all the small and lite weight backpack capable products that are on the market. Thanks for your knowledge and have a good season 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷🔥🌄⛺️
Hey there! I haven’t really used snowmobiles much. But I do love cross country skiing into remote terrain for winter camping! I hope to get out for some good adventures this winter! Where are you headed!
Great video! I ve subscribed you :) Can you als recommend me the cheaper and for me more afordable Nemo Kunai as an alternativ 4 season tent?? I just want a warm and windproof tent which i can use all year all seasons.
If you were winter backpacking saying in the desert, like the SW and will see cold temps and maybe morning frost but no snow?? Would you need a 4 season or would a 3 season suffice for a no snow enviornment?
For cold winds, a tent with a mostly fabric inner rather than a mostly mesh inner is useful for keeping you warm. You can sometimes buy cold season inner variations for certain tents. If you have a warm enough sleep system and you're not worried about snow a 3 season tent would probably be okay, depends on how cold it gets.
Even though I am not 100% sure, I believe it is Kaitum 2, from Hilleberg. Having said that, it is interesting(?) why the brand and the model of the tent was never mentioned on the video, nor is was listed on the links in the description... I would like to think there is a good reason/explanation for this, and I would had liked to know what this reason is. Because now it just looks sketchy... (i.e., Hilleberg did not pay money, therefore they are not getting mentioned)
@@tsintsantson Thanks for the info. I looked on the Hilleberg website and the tent that’s closest to the description in the video is the Tarra Black Label 2 person, 4 season, cross over poles, 2 entrances and 4.3 kg (9lbs 8 ozs). $1799.95 AUD 😜
@@BackpackingTVThis is not a comparison video, it is a review of a 4 season tent. I am a beginner hiker from Hamilton, Ontario looking to do my first winter backpacking overnight. I don't own a tent. When I clicked on your 3 v 4 season comparison video I was pretty excited to learn, but it was a huge disappointment. If you want to make a comparison video it would be great to learn about how a 3 season tent holds up for winter conditions vs 4 season tent.
@@ryanfindlay2348 In short not very well. A 3-season tent will usually suffer from a lot of condensation in winter. And as said in the video, if it's snowing, you will have to wake up multiple times a night to clear the snow. A 4 season on the other hand can certainly be used in warmer weather too, it'll just weigh more in your pack. If you want to hike in both summer and winter and can only get one tent, get a 4-season.
True. If it's a 3 person tent that's not bad. I carry a 4 season, eureka, 2 person (I'm bigger) and it's 8lbs total. Still not terrible for long winter treks
There are nothing sutch as 4-season tents. It's just marketing and trickery - lies. They are either 3-season, or winter-season tents. You cannot combine these two in one package. But you know that? 😀
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I love how one of the first things he says is "I'm frugal" as he points to his $1000 tent wearing his $800 rain shell from Arcteryx lol
Haha yep! It’s amazing what pro deals, second hand purchases, and having friends with extra gear can get you. I’m hoping to give people helpful information before they feel like they have to run out and spend a couple grand on gear.
@@BackpackingTV what's the first rule of pro deals!? You don't talk about pro deals! 🤣
A marmot Thor isn’t that expensive. Check again. I paid 600$ for mine.
@@babiesfartingfire6007 maybe a 2p thor or a used 3p? The new 3p used to be almost $900 at REI.
I could smell this comment
I've spent a lot of time winter camping in my 3-Season tent. In my opinion, 3-Season tent are WAY more versatile than you think and can be used YEAR-ROUND. 4-Season Tents are best reserved for high altitude, alpine trips. Save your money!
I have the same tent but in 2 persons size , about 8 pounds but I never carry it in my backpack in winter as I do use a sled ( pulk ) to bring the gear to destination. I also use it for canoe trip ( with no portage) in early Spring or late fall for when the weather is changing every half hour . That tent is not easy to set rapidly because of the numbers of poles needed to raise it up . But once installed you feel that anything can happen and you will be safe. I once had 12 inches of wet snow during the night and the tent held well without knocking the snow off because I was sleeping .
Thanks for the video
Hi Bon, can you tell me the tent brand and model names. Thanks in advance.
@@neil57able1 well sure , its the Marmot Thor 3 persons tent that he has in the video . I own the 2 person version. He has the link in his description .
@@bonpecheur4565 thanks Bon. I missed the link in the description.
Great review. Because of you I just purchased my first Ultralight 3 season Backpacking Tent. The Marmot Tungsten 2P UL tent this past Black Friday!
Right on! That one is a classic for me.
Omg! I have this one on my list! How are you liking it????❤
You can also get a decent tipi tent that will be pretty light weight and inexpensive. Lots of people in my area use them to hunt in the really cold weather. Awesome video. Blessings!!!
I haven't tried tipi style tents. Sounds like to need to!
I have the 1.675kg 3,86lbs Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1. It is a four season tent and serves me well on hills and mountains in UK Winters! Just love it!
Do you remember the 3-person (really 2 person with storage space) dome tents from the 80s? Solid nylon walls, full rain flys that go down to the ground, fiberglass poles, screened windows &doors with full nylon panels. 6 lbs.
It would have been nice to see him set up a 3 season tent next to the winter tent while it was snowing to see how much it sags in comparison.
What about a "warm" tent that is not going to be snowed on and wont have wind? How about something that is thicker material and yet still has ventilation? what would that tent be called? I mean, the 3 season tents have lots of mesh but I need something for 20 F?
Hey, I am a rookie camper and have been trying out some colder temperatures with my 3 and 5 year old. I am looking to make some future purchases and I was wondering if you would recommend a hot tent or possibly a propane heater?
Nice video! Thank you, and it all your points are helpful! )))
As a Canadian I only have to glance at the snow to know that it is wet and heavy. It also tells me the temperature, which is probably just below 0 C.
Love my Eureka Mountain pass. No sag 5.8 pounds. Lots of room.
Nice! Gotta try that.
Couple of tho'ts: 1st, that the demo tent is not only for winter, it's for open, un-sheltered campsites. Would pitch my double-wall 1-man tent (2lb) under my tarp (1lb) and stake the hell out of it and feel safe BUT -- in those woods behind you. 2d, that you've got a 2man tent why is one person carrying both tent and poles? Prob'ly could be made two 5lb sacks. So weigh not a deal breaker. And THANX! Enjoyed it.
Splitting up the weight between two people would definitely be the way to go!
Hello! I just bought cross country skis and some different equipment to start winter cold camping. I’ve been hot tenting on my snowmobile for several years. I was wondering if you have ever hit tented and if you were possibly going to try it considering all the small and lite weight backpack capable products that are on the market. Thanks for your knowledge and have a good season 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷🔥🌄⛺️
Hey there! I haven’t really used snowmobiles much. But I do love cross country skiing into remote terrain for winter camping! I hope to get out for some good adventures this winter! Where are you headed!
@@BackpackingTV I’ll be in Maine. Do you think you’ll try hot tenting? Thanks for your cold camping advice.
just what I am looking for 🙏🏽
Great video! I ve subscribed you :)
Can you als recommend me the cheaper and for me more afordable Nemo Kunai as an alternativ 4 season tent??
I just want a warm and windproof tent which i can use all year all seasons.
Good video, thanks
What model jacket is this. Is it durable ?
If you were winter backpacking saying in the desert, like the SW and will see cold temps and maybe morning frost but no snow?? Would you need a 4 season or would a 3 season suffice for a no snow enviornment?
For cold winds, a tent with a mostly fabric inner rather than a mostly mesh inner is useful for keeping you warm. You can sometimes buy cold season inner variations for certain tents. If you have a warm enough sleep system and you're not worried about snow a 3 season tent would probably be okay, depends on how cold it gets.
Which gaiters and Helly Hansen pants are you rockin'?
hey! links are now in the video description. Thanks!
reminds me of my TNF Lenticular
Does anyone have experience with the Paria 2p Bryce with solid inner for winter camping? Thanks in advance!
What’s your favorite backpack
Right now it's the Mystery Ranch Terraframe. It can haul everything and is super comfortable.
Digging your channel .
Thx
Thank you!
Can you please tell me the brand and name of the tent?
Even though I am not 100% sure, I believe it is Kaitum 2, from Hilleberg. Having said that, it is interesting(?) why the brand and the model of the tent was never mentioned on the video, nor is was listed on the links in the description... I would like to think there is a good reason/explanation for this, and I would had liked to know what this reason is. Because now it just looks sketchy... (i.e., Hilleberg did not pay money, therefore they are not getting mentioned)
@@tsintsantson Thanks for the info. I looked on the Hilleberg website and the tent that’s closest to the description in the video is the Tarra Black Label 2 person, 4 season, cross over poles, 2 entrances and 4.3 kg (9lbs 8 ozs). $1799.95 AUD 😜
Shouldn't the term "four season" be removed and replaced with " one season"? Because winter tents aren't good for the other seasons
Great video
Thank you!
You missed out the most important difference. The inner tent is a "full fabric" instead of a mesh for 3 season tents.
It is mentioned at 6:37. It is very critical and he doesn't quite highlight it enough though.
Thanks for bringing it up! Yep that’s very important to note. Sorry I didn’t highlight it more!
This is an 8 minute video showing what a fully set up 4 season tent is like compared to about 20 seconds showing a packed up 3 season tent.
Yep! A lot more people are familiar with what three season tents are. So I figured it was more helpful to spend my time on the four season tent.
@@BackpackingTVThis is not a comparison video, it is a review of a 4 season tent. I am a beginner hiker from Hamilton, Ontario
looking to do my first winter backpacking overnight. I don't own a tent. When I clicked on your 3 v 4 season comparison video I was pretty excited to learn, but it was a huge disappointment. If you want to make a comparison video it would be great to learn about how a 3 season tent holds up for winter conditions vs 4 season tent.
@@ryanfindlay2348 In short not very well. A 3-season tent will usually suffer from a lot of condensation in winter. And as said in the video, if it's snowing, you will have to wake up multiple times a night to clear the snow.
A 4 season on the other hand can certainly be used in warmer weather too, it'll just weigh more in your pack.
If you want to hike in both summer and winter and can only get one tent, get a 4-season.
I saw that same 4 season tent for 300-400$ and it was a 4 person not 2 person
That tent is not that heavy for a tent big enough for 3 people.
True. If it's a 3 person tent that's not bad. I carry a 4 season, eureka, 2 person (I'm bigger) and it's 8lbs total. Still not terrible for long winter treks
Gotta have a tarp over the tent.
That is not a winter storm, as you describe it. It is just snowing. Stop exaggerating!!
There are nothing sutch as 4-season tents. It's just marketing and trickery - lies. They are either 3-season, or winter-season tents. You cannot combine these two in one package. But you know that? 😀
Thanks for showing us your face from different angles and showing 0,001% of the tent
Not much new here
dont camp in the wilderness lots of cougars , dont forget your gun