Our New Cessna 210 Tried To KILL US Just ONE DAY After Buying It...
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Well, our new to us 1961 Cessna 210a already broke... The plane lost oil and oil pressure rapidly and the engine died. We bought this plane sight unseen and proceeded to fly it home 1000 miles from Texas. If the plane was in the air this situation most certainly would have warranted declaring an emergency. We are very lucky that everything happened how it did and when it did. We think we know what caused this issue. It might have to do with the STC spin on oil filter adapter which has been linked to multiple accidents.
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Sounds like you found the issue and glad it didn't happen in a more risky fashion. But dude... I hope you understand now how you have to stack the deck in your favor. You absolutely should not have been out there over the mountains at night, even in a plane you're confident in. Flying that leg was a poor decision by the pilot, hope that lesson is learned.
EXACTLY! Flying at night in an airplane people are admittedly unfamiliar with is not good risk assessment…let alone flying over mountains.
The stress in HINDSIGHT needs to changed to stress in FORESIGHT!
And the boys in d c are getting on people about it lately.
Just shows you can’t teach decent decision making hey.
These guys need to take a step back from content and learn actual pilot skills
I think he should stick to exotic cars.
I have a 1963 210c. February of this year on my way back from Bethel Alaska to Kenai Alaska at night climbing over a 11,000 volcano I started to get a vibration in the engine. I wish I could show you the picture. Upon landing, we discovered Three of the eight bolts holding on the number for cylinder severed from engine. I can understand what you’re talking about when you think oh, but the grace of God I am still alive today. Flying is not for the fainthearted. You’re taking a 3000 pound machine 12,000 feet in the air with a World War II era engine. $51,800 later we will be installing a new IO 470 into it this month. I’m very thankful I have the opportunity to spend the money and my family is not scraping parts of me off the side of Mount Redoubt. Keep the blue side up gentlemen.
Wow, what a story. So glad you are safe. Thanks for the comment.
You guys have been very successful with the "grab and go" philosophy.
Cars = not a huge risk Planes = you dodged a bullet on this one. Might tighten up the policy on the planes! !! !!!
Yep, if you’re buying a complex plane sight unseen with NO PREBUY please for the love of God don’t fly over mountains at night… Extreme risks from these gentlemen are very unsightly and upsetting
The 182 that crashed in Mill Creek is a friend of mine. A real tragedy there. I also had that same brand/type adapter on my 1965 C33 Debonair with the IO-470K. In the 20 years I had it installed I never had a leak or any issue with it. I complied with the AD regarding the new seals, torques and additional safety wire and had nothing but problems with it leaking. I removed it and reinstalled the screen assembly I had removed 20 years previously. Now I change the oil every 25 hours and don't worry about the AD and the filter adapter.
Yeah, that a brute force solution but I would have gone the same way.
As everyone has already commented...you were incredibly lucky! This is the engine out at night procedure in a single: 1. Establish best glide speed. 2. When approaching the terrain, turn on landing light. 3. If you don't like what you see, turn landing light off! Brace for impact. Valuable lesson learned - do NOT fly a single over mountainous terrain at night. Period.
As someone who owns a T210N, I would not buy an early model 210 (pre 1972). By then they got rid of most of the issues. We haven't even needed maintenance with the landing gear in over 500 hours, I was expecting a gear issue with the title. Glad it worked out, can't wait for more.
Those N models are a nice ship to drive.
Guys, I love your videos and you make great content, but this is different than the car world where you can find good deals on old cars and buy them sight unseen. You guys bought a 1960s plane without a prebuy or checking to make sure all the ADs are taken care. Not even scoping the engines or performing a compression check and then you put four people in it and fly it over mountains at night. That was awful decision making. You learn about these things during the written part of your training learning the 5 hazardous attitudes pilots need to avoid and you guys had many of them on this trip. This needs to be a wake up call and you guys need to slow down and do things right in this industry or you will die. I dont want that at all, god forbid it happens. WAKE UP AND SLOW DOWN.
Exactly. These guys are going to create more pilots like them and that is dam dangerous
Truth! I don't know what made them decide doing this night flight was a reasonable idea. It's concerning when pilots take this kind of risks and it makes me question their risk assessment skills.
Thats why you never fly single engine over mountains at night. The only thing worse would’ve been adding IFR conditions as well, or single pilot. It doesn’t matter how good the pilots are. Very happy you didn’t end up n Dan Gryders (sp?) Sunday night fatal accident video. 👍🏻
I had this filter adapter on my plane and removed it for this exact reason. I installed the AirWolf STC’d filter adapter which has a much better design and doesn’t have the chance of loosening.
Glad you’re alive. Apply Mike Patey’s rules based on experience. No night flying over mountain terrain unless following major highway or you have a whole airframe parachute. It’s not worth it
You are absolutely right in feeling that y’all dodged a major challenge. I’m a car guy, only. You f I get a flat, I can pull over. My best friend who flies G4s, says- “well, air travel is statistically the safest way to travel. But, luck always wins.”
Watch Blancolirio before you're in his next video. Mike Patey did an interesting vid lately. 3 strikes. Strike one, flying at night, strike two, over mountains, strike 3, unfamiliar plane.... any one of these should have grounded you. Any one of these could have ended you. You got lucky dude.
It's so crazy I was watching Jimmy's world and he was at your hangar. You guys went through all your cars and how you got started. That was amazing funny that I got it from a deferent channel though. It so happens that we inherited bags and bags of coins this month, so I will be learning that side of the world soon. Glad you guys are safe! my first GA plane ride was in my uncles 1969 Cessna 210. It started the dream I have of flying. 12hrs in as a student pilot now, It took longer in life then I wanted but I will still make it happen!
It doesn’t matter how long it takes to get your PPL, it will be worth it! I got mine after several years as an A&P student pilot. I went on to fly commuter KingAirs and then became a 727-200 flight engineer. I loved every moment in the air. I hope you do too.
I truly feel free in the air, it’s one of the best feeling. I have overcome a lot in my life health,family, and money I’m still working on that one. I have my class 3 medical though I can’t get a higher one. So I will fly for myself. I hope to have many $100 hamburgers and overnight camping trips under the wings in my future. It a dream to go back to Airventure and camp under the wings. Congratulations on your fling career it gives hope to me and others as well.
By the way, I was involved in a sale of an aircraft where there was no pre-buy once. It worked our just fine; I wasn't really worried about it though I thought it odd:
A flying club I was a member of had me sell one of our aircraft on eBay. The purchaser had 2 weeks to do an inspection post sale but for one reason and then another, neither he nor his mechanic were able to do so; instead he asked if someone could fly it from where it was (Toledo , Ohio) to him in central Texas.
I was very confident in the plane, as I had flown it often before we decided to sell it.
The buyer was happy with this demonstration of our faith in the airworthiness of the aircraft ; and completed the purchase the next day without having a mechanic look at it.
Flying at night over the mountains single engine with four people , that is one thing Mike Patey took of his not to do list, one less risk of dying. Safe travels.
Hey guys. I'm so glad that happened when it did and you guys are safe. Take care.
Glad you made it back OK the night before. Just one of life's lesson's, and thankfully one that did not require anyone getting hurt or worse. Don't beat yourselves up too bad, you got a good deal, and you will fix it and have it back in the air soon.
I have a io-470k with the oil screen. Thought about adding the filter stc a few years back but heard about the problems that people were having with that setup. I felt it wasn’t perfected enough yet so I decided to stick with the screen. When you consider that oil is the life blood of the engine and that it’s fairer cheap compared to everything else in aviation I just change the oil more often than recommended and examine the screen for possible problems. After a while you get pretty good at safety wiring.
Thanks for the comment, too bad the adapters have a bad wrap.
As an A&P, I have had to replace O-rings on 2 aircraft with the oil filter STC.
Guys love the channel, having been a C210 pilot in my youth mostly on N models, those aircraft you bought are really ancient and a worry. Cheers Paul
I'm very sorry to hear that your other planes need help to get fixed. I'm praying that they will be able to get repaired sooner rather than later, and that your finances will go smoothly. I'm very thankful you all are okay, I am excited that ya'll get to learn how to fly. That's awesome!! I'm going to flight school next year potentially. It will be close by. I think I told you guys at one point but I live in Lawton, OK and the school will be in Chickasha, OK.
Torque stripe is a indicator that the bolt/housing has rotated. General Aviation needs to be looked at all the way around and make items more user friendly and the manufacturing processes monitored better.
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In retrospect you should have kept the plane you had and not wheeled and dealed for old planes all over the map.
YES! Thanks for stating the obvious.
Naw man that is super scary. Very lucky glad you’re all okay. Had a lucky incident myself lately with some water in the fuel system as I was climbing over the mountains
Stay safe
I’ve always wondered why Cessnas don’t have a hinged two piece cowl like many Pipers.
I had a 182 and engine preflight was limited to what you could see through the oil filler door.
Very poor design
Glad your still here. You were lucky for sure!
Glad you guys are ok. But it shouldn’t be hindsight to realize that flying a 60 year old plane home at night over that terrain after buying sight unseen with no pre-buy inspection, was a very risky move. I hope you realize how lucky you are to be alive.
The AD on them is to replace the fiber gasket with a crush gasket on the engine side. I have seen two aircraft engines fail because of the fiber gaskets failing.
Safety first. Nice catch Jay. It could have been tragic.
Hopefully the last tech to do the annual didn't just pencil whip that AD... I work on Cessnas every day, and used to see a lot of dry, cracked, and extruded fiber gaskets down in Southern AZ. I got into the habit of torque striping pretty much everything when doing engine work. Glad to see you guys are okay and what happened happened when it did!
The design of that adapter seems flawed. The filter angles outward to far from the adapter. That added distance along with weight filled with oil would amplify vibration and would lead to the adapter being leveraged back and forth resulting in gasket and or "O" ring failure. A better system i believe would be having the filter mount as close to the engine as possible with either a strait vertical or horizontal filter position.
The orginal STC oil filter adaptor was prone to leakage for several years.
60 year old aircraft...bought sight unseen..no pre buy or hands/eyes on inspection....a cursory google search on any 210 reddit or owners site shows that filter set up has been a issue ....who could have seen this coming?
edit to the 210 fans saying older 210s are trouble..gear packs etc....any aircraft of this vintage can have issues...it's on YOU the owner to stay on top of ADs..maintenance schedules ..i've owned a few 210s ..'63..66....75 and a 80....all had their pros and cons ..all were wonderful aircraft
There aren't any bargains in old used airplanes really .If you think you are getting a great deal because of a low asking price ...beware ,and don't put your wallet away after the sale because now it's time to pay full market value one way or the other way
Whew….. nice mustache you got going ;) and yes…. The 310 has similar adapters that need to be checked every preflight.
Keep us posted, very curious to see what it was. Keep the blue side up, boyz! 🤙🏽
There are a lot of factors, but since it was pumping oil overboard, IF (big IF) they were flying and noticed the Oil Pressure dropping out as soon as it happened, they have 3-5 minutes until they have no oil pressure, and perhaps about 15 minutes of total flying time before the engine seized. Based on previous total oil failures, engines seizing in as little as 3 minutes, and as long as 30 minutes.
In Texas, if you are at 5000ft, you are in gliding distance to an airport, so you can chop the power and glide to an airport. In Arizona, perhaps not, so then you then try to drag out flying to get to an airport and possibly damage the engine, but probably not going to seize on you.
Recently, I had my Oil Pressure drop from the normal 50-60psi to 17psi. Oil temp was normal as was all cylinder temps. We immediately used our power and energy to climb to 5000 ft in case we lost the engine (about 4 minutes of climb) and were within gliding distance to Georgetown Airport, so chopped the power and landed there.
During that time, the Oil Pressure remained at 17 psi, so we were getting oil flow, just dangerously low.
Upon landing at Georgetown airport, we noticed that we still had 7 quarts and no oil present on the aircraft. We let the engine cool down for the oil to thicken up as we suspected some debris in the oil holding the high pressure bypass open and that once the oil cooled down, it would flush out.
Starting the engine about 30 minutes later, the Oil Pressure was running at around 22 psi (alarm is set for 20 psi). So I took off and hopped over to my home airport 2 minute flight away (Private Grass runway) which by the time I was airbourne, the OP was dropping back to 12-17 psi.
A couple of weeks later, I hopped it over to Taylor Airport, about 5 minutes away, in which the OP was again 15-17.
A month later, Taylor Aviation Services were able to get to it and cleaned the Thermatron, Oil Pressure Relief / Pressure Set valve, started it up and no problem found.
We have flow it a dozen times now and the OP runs from 55-65 as it should, so we guess it was some debris holding open a bypass valve, keeping the pressure from building up.
I have the stc oil adapter on my bonanza. Copper gasket is the problem, 2 dollar part
Had this happen on a beech debonair a few years back. Oil filter adapter came loose and lost all engine oil. Busted a hole in the crack case. Not a normal customer but made a successful emergency landing in a bean field in Missouri.
Had another V tail bonanza come in for an oil change that we don’t normally work on. Went to pull the filter and you could take the oil filter adapter off by hand. Told the owner and now he only brings his plane here for us.
Always check those adapters. Cessna oil adapters or not. Check them.
Wow seems like a more common issue that I realized!
Same thing happened with my O470G in my 57 Bonanza. Gasket tore after some maintenance and dumped 5 qts in 20 min. on the test flight. Luckily we were close to the airport and landed. We addressed the AD and now I check the alignment of the adapter about every 3 hours to make sure it hasn't moved.
About 1978, we had a P210 mostly used on a US Mail contract. It was time to get the turbo serviced, so that was done, but the act of inspecting broke it. I guess. We flew off from, PDX to Sunriver, with 3 dudes + 3 GFs for a white tablecloth lunch - one hour each way. Halfway home flying at FL 21, the turbo failed. All we knew till we landed was a thump and the cabin started filling with oily smoke. We could see out the back windows that we were leaving an oil slick in the sky. We were over nothing but lakes and national forests, absolutely no airfields nor place for a polite emergency landing. Fortunately the engine kept turning and we made it back to PDX. Not a drop of oil on the dipstick. No damage to the engine. New turbo solved it. The issue involved oil, but I don't think it had to do with the filter/adapter.
Depends on the oil, how hard the engine is running; Even if the engine doesn't self destruct, little or no oil is 100x or more the wear & tear.
The real question is why did the engine stop? Were the bearings damaged in the process? You need to do a thorough post-event engine inspection, not just a fix for the leak. By cat measure, you have 8 lives left. Spend them wisely, i.e. no single engine night flying over mountains. Remember, there are old pilots, and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.
very well said!!
I think the general public would be shocked to know how safety in the whole general aviation field is not so much better than in the Wright Brother years. I am probably overblowing it by liking it to flipping a coin, but that is the point, we still have some way to go to say we feel safe in these planes.
Guys, I have the same adapter on my IO470 in a Beech Debonair. You absolutely have to go further than just the washer changes. As some of the other commenters said, the design of the adapter is such that the filter is placed some distance from the case, and engine vibration will loosen the assembly, even if torqued properly. It is important to safety wire the body of the adapter back to the case, in a manner that pulls the adapter tight. This is in addition to wiring the filter tight as normal. Then torque seal it and inspect every flight for movement. Once we got the safety wire technique right, it hasn’t budged since.
Night, Mountains, IFR...pick one.
It did not happen in the air, get over it. In operating anything there are maintenance issues, thats just part of it. Flying a new purchase involves risk; you can mitigate that in your favor, you and your supposedly experienced pilots chose not to by flying over rough terrain at night in an unfamiliar aircraft. As to being upset by the possibility of having to replace the engine and the cost involved I have no sympathy when you show off a few million dollars worth of your cars; you are a hell of lot more fortunate than most of us
Absolutely. I seriously question those two pilots who were flying the plane. They were displaying a couple of the 5 hazardous attitudes by flying a complex 1960s airplane sight unseen with ZERO pre buy cross country at night over mountains. These guys need to wake up, this is not the car flipping business, people die in this industry.
I tried to tell him in the very beginning..but I'm an old guy ,flying since 1976 ,what do I know ? Right ? I will say ,the guy is learning ,and he's still alive so far . I think he' sounds like a smart guy ...but like you said ,this ain't the car flipping business..he'll learn though
Wow! Pretty strong critique given the information he’s putting out might save someone from having an engine failure and potentially crashing an aircraft. I get it that you seem to be a bit envious of his wealth, or is it jealous? But your critique does have some excellent points concerning flying an aircraft with “unknowns” over mountainous terrain at night. But your comment about operating anything, “there are maintenance issues” may be true but if the A&P, and inspector did their jobs correctly, maintenance is done on schedule, preflight and other periodic inspections are accomplished on schedule and performed correctly, maintenance issues should be rare.
Douche
Nice that the heat sealed your trip before finding this out. I'd count it as a miracle, myself. Gotta count them!
In terms of time between no oil pressure and engine going bang.... I really don't think there is one answer to this. I think the real answer is it depends. It's going to vary from engine to engine, how hard you're running the engine will have an effect too, it'll likely last a lot longer at idle than at takeoff power for example. There's various factors that will effect the actual length of time, but essentially, nowhere near as long as the owner of the engine would like.
If I might suggest. Having some crushable copper gaskets made for both ends of that oil filter adapter, and having some radial etchings machine into the surfaces, you can functionally make that oil filter adapter a permanent fixture. Using consumable gasket on that application I find troubling. A crushable zinc or especially a copper gasket, somewhat akin to a banjo bolt is how it's designed, you should be using copper seals on both ends of that oil filter adapter. It might be an update you can work on and actually make money on, I do expect my cut!
Fun fact, someone ran a D16y8 (turbocharged) Honda civic engine. Pushing 650wheel. With no oil in the engine spraying NOS doing a burnout. And they couldn’t kill it. It was knocking like hell in the end but she never gave up..
Experimental plane idea? Turbo d16y8
So sorry that this happened. Be safe out there !
I think a thorough inspector w/experience would have warned you about that adapter being a potential danger item. I guess the vibration is hard on the adapter gaskets. Would be better to have a factory designed-in spin on oil filter mount for that engine. It scares me and I'm not even flying.
Fly8MA youtube did a great video showing running an engine without oil. I was surprised how long it lasted, but would never want to test this myself.
I spun a bearing in a car at wide open throttle and the oil light was only on for about 2 seconds. I didn't know I was low on oil but when I stomped on it the little oil in the pan shifted away from the pickup. What I'm trying to say is it didn't take long for no oil pressure to ruin the engine. But it was full load so it's hard to say what would happen in that engine at cruise.
only time I will fly single-engine piston aircraft is when my other engine has shut down! LOL had enough twin shutdowns that I would never risk flying single-engine piston.
Sounds like you got lucky. The pilots had presence of mind to shut is right down. Let's hope the engine is fit.
Yes it could have been very bad over the mountains at night.
No, the pilot did not shut the engine off. The engine quit. You need to go back and watch the video again. I would not want you doing any inspections on my airplane.
@@paulh1745 You can count on that.
Dear Bros,
Looking at what’s going on with the engine of the Cessna 210 I think that if the rubber gasket of the oil filter is not the culprit of the oil leakage and no oil pressure, then there is a serious problem and the engine will probably need to be overhauled. I think it’s worthwhile to realize this because it helps in increasing the value of this rare plane. I look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
After you last topped up the oil did you replace the oil cap - or leave it resting on the battery or some other surface. Inside the main filler tube there is a narrow "return" tube on some Cessnas which squirts oil upwards and all over the place if the cap is not replaced.
very lucky not to have been the next NTSB investigation.........glad you're safe
Pew 🤯, Glad you all are ok. Scary.
When I was 18 years old, back in 1966 my military flight instructor told me if you lose all your engine oil you have just about enough time to bend over and kiss your as* goodby. Luckly the only time I lost oil pressure was in a 4 engine jet (DC-8).Well over 20,000 with a lot of good A&Ps in my past.
Great Channel Luv the content will say you have to Mitigate all risk that you can in GA flying. NIGHT over Mountains in a old 210 was not the way to keep making videos..Lucky for all that it barely worked out. Ied say put Dan Gryder's Sunday night recap on your to do list..lol Can't wait to see the out come on this . Be safer and use better aeronautical decisions on your next flight . I would like to continue to see your post and not on Dans Sunday night recap😮
Good video. Sometimes my old car would lose oil but if was normal. Mazda RX-8.
If you lose oil pressure the hydraulic lifters stop functioning properly. The "sputtering is the symptom of lifters that are not lifting anymore. It can damage you camshaft, th elifters and the valves, possibly even the valve seats. In a car you can just pull over anywhere. In a plane in trouble you wanna take all the help the engine can give you to[rovide time and altitude to find th ebest place to land
You're not idiots, you're tempting fate. C'mon guys, you are way too smart to be rolling weighted dice! I hope Dan Gryder never gets within earshot of y'all.
You said the oil leak was coming from the filter. I thought the 210 didn't have a filter?
You do you but just know, everytime you put a pilot in an aircraft that hasn’t been pre-purchase inspected you’re putting their life at risk. There was a P51 mustang replica sold here at my airport and the buyer didn’t elect to do a pre-buy. The next morning the test pilot he hired fatally crashed when the elevator cable binded and broke. Even a short 2hr prebuy can save your pilots life
Single engine stay over I-10 between Phoenix and El Paso. Dry lake bed several airports and a few abandoned WWII military airstrips. Also not a lot of altitude is needed.
That Mercedes Benz is so beautiful. You guys need to build another hanger
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, then being in the air wishing you were on the ground! Stay safe with thorough inspections.
Better on the ground than Airborne. Thank goodness
I have no problem with a sight unseen purchase. I am in the process of one right now. Buying without a prebuy inspection performed by an A&P who is experienced in type? Yeah NOPE.
And no, I don't think you are overstating the severity of this incident at all. Catastrophic engine failure sadly kills a few people every month. When that last little bit of engine oil covers the windscreen it makes for a really bad day.
Oil filters can come loose if not properly secured with massive temperature changes. Seen it happen multiple times I'd be surprised if was worse than that
Yeah, that’s not bad at all 🤦♂️
New purchase, no inspection, 4 people, 10 hour trip, mountains at night, what could possibly go wrong. All this stuff posted on utube! Not good!
Hopefully this was a wake up call.
Im an IA. You would have at best 5 minutes at idle. With power up 2 minutes.
Don’t ever fly a new plane at night. 1 minute that engine would have blown up. There’s an AD on oil kit.
flying 10 hrs straight the day before might have contributed to the part failure, a good look at the engine the next morning might have caught the start of that leak?
I love this guy
Yes this type of oil filter adapter scares me I have that same type of filter on my Cessna 170 also my next-door neighbor has the same adapter on his 172 we've had nothing but oil seeping oil leaks from around this area. I recently purchased two new original continental oil filter screens From Fresno air parts in California best price around. The previous owner of my airplane nearly lost all of his engine oil after a hard landing in just a 30 minute flight.
Yes we're going back to the original screens they're a pain in the ass to pull every time you change the oil to check the screen but I think it's worth it.
btw aside from airplanes I LOVE those old 914's lol
see as a non aviator, i find these NTSB reports very intriguing, now i would have thought an aviation safety board such as NTSB would not just issue warnings of these faults, but ensure all registered aircraft receive an update, is that a feasible thing or not - i know from my limited aviation experience that manuals carry an addendum for such modifications, but how are they issued, my guess with commercial aircraft that's fairly easy to hit manufacturers with their findings and pass on to operators and less so with private aircraft, but surely they are registered at an airfield where they are kept, thank god some of these things are available on the internet - but there must be so much missing information
maybe Geoffrey for your own safety, before buying a particular brand of aircraft, to find all known faults, accident reports and such like to build a unique picture of things, see the plane and see if mods have been made, ie an inspection, that Savvy Aviation is a very useful tool
glad to hear that it happened on the ground and no one was hurt. I'm no mechanic, but in my limited experience the time an engine can run with no oil varies but it isn't long.
When you added a quart in the morning you overfilled it with oil and blew a seal.
If you haven't, read "Fate is the Hunter - A Pilot's Memoir" by Ernest K Gann.
How much longer will it be before you get your pilot license?
My Cardinal was leaking oil like that turned out to be a leaky gasket on a magneto.
Is the 914 for sale…..?
Reduced power helps.
How do you afford all the cars and planes?
Pilots seem to be a lot more tolerant of oil burning engines. If my car lost a quart of oil every 600 miles I would break out the wrenches and not run it until the problem was found and fixed. I know alot of pilots sort of MEH about engines that go thru a quart of oil every 10-15 hours. Probably the smartest thing I did was build my own plane and get my AP. Even if things go wrong, I can fix it myself. I can do my own annuals all that expensive stuff. The proposed changes in the FAA Mosaic program, light sport pilots are going to see a massive espansion in operatingpriveleges and aircraft sizes. Rather than focusing on groaa weight and top speeds, Mosic proposes to focus on stall speeds, so planes as heavy as a Cessna 180 would qualify. If you want to build a Sonex that cruises at 200kts you can fly it on the LS ticket. It is possible that Mosaic might go into effect in 2024. Exciting times coming to general aviation! It may have the effect of driving down aircraft prices. Service prices etc
Hopefully the bearings are not scored, or the cams.
Too much oil introduced is it why it popped its overflow emergency?
Youre learning now bro .This is just a suggestion, but go find youself somebody who is making money in used aircraft sales ..study what they do with these airplanes after they aquire them ...then get your checkbook out and go do that .
Being over the mountains at night in a single engine airplane you just bought sight unseen? That’s straight up stupid! You don’t know if it happened before with this engine after which they just topped it off and sold it. When this thing stopped immediately after oil press dropped, there is trouble in paradise. I would not fly a foot with that thing without an engine rebuild
i wouldnt get near that plane with that tail number!
You checked for internet mentions of Cessna 210 issues, when you should have been checking for issues with the ENGINE.
You can get a Chinese Continental IO 550. More BTU’s.
How come it’s taking so long for you guys to get your license
I’m wondering the same thing. The amount of right seat time they have is hundreds of hours and I’ve only seen one lesson in the Cirrus. With all the aircraft they wheel and deal, you’d think if they were serious about getting their certs, it would already be done.
Just clean the engine. Put oil back in it and run it with the cowl off and look for the leak. It appears big enough you will see it leaking.