BATTLE OF THE SEXES GONE WRONG!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Instructionals:
• Craig: bjjfanatics.co...
• Nicky Rod: bjjfanatics.co...
• Ethan: bjjfanatics.co...
• Nicky Ryan: bjjfanatics.co...
• Jay Rod: bjjfanatics.co...
Website: bteamjj.com/
Instagram: / bteamjj
Merch: www.ma1combat....
Sweater: www.geccu.com.au/
#BTeamJiuJitsu #BJJ #JiuJitsu #nogi
![Run Away - Tzuyu(TWICE) ツウィ 쯔위 [Music Bank] | KBS WORLD TV 240906](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KnHNNyAYiu0/mqdefault.jpg)
Women always throw 100% in sparring and roll like their life depends on it. This video taught me to go 100% against them no matter what. Thanks Craig.
Arrogance is a humans greatest enemy. Karma will get her on day 😏
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
@@kris3451 It's one thing to not tap out and get injured,but the kid didn't even have time to tap out she was so vicious .
@UFC4L exactly homie
Yeah whenever I roll with women, I have to go 100%. The one time I went easy on a girl and let her work, I gave her mount. She proceeded to choose not just knee-on-belly, but knee-on-sternum with her full weight. They always crank submissions and try to injure their male partners.
“This is a prime example of how how terrible of a person Craig Jones is.”🤣
Bro I'm never going to B-Team 😆
It did take Craig about 3 seconds to start smirking😂😂😂
Credit to Liam for keeping it light and keeping his cool after getting an injury that takes him away from his hobby for the best part of a year. Many would not react with good humour in a moment like that.
Laying there is said that hurts with a straight face, kids a great person, hopefully Craig takes him under his wing and teaches him to be a troll
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
Well, he didn't have a leg to stand on after that....
Hahahaha
@NavySeal2208 It doesn't look like he knew that he was in a position that could cripple him. She knew exactly what position he was in. This is on her, and it's disgusting.
Yeah I'm sure Craig is infinitely grateful he's not being sued lol
Craig immediately thought about fleeing back to Australia when that leg snapped lol
Immediately I thought. Did this man sign the waiver?
@@craigjones8662 I'm gonna die from laughing😂😂😂😂
Gross negligence is not covered. 🤣💀
Look at his face turn from shock to smile when he realizes that this is on camera. Look at it in slow motion at 0.25x speed around 2:45.
Yeah, that kinda makes the following jokey treatment in this video even dumber, because it wasn't his first, sincere reaction. Craig's gut knew he done fucked up.
Nicky Rod wearing a microphone on his chain and giving an interview shirtless just cracked me up😁
Think he goes by Natty Rod now instead lol
Repar...repar..reparashunns???
I hope Liam can make a full recovery. What a disaster.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
I love the b team guys but they’re making a joke out of destroying some guys knee for likes.
@@ingemar4949 I’m sure it’s covered in the waiver. BJJ has injuries happen, and you assume the risk when you step in the gym to train.
@@ingemar4949I mean regardless of the waiver the guy could’ve said no lol and he did say on camera “I will demolish her”
@@Gimmeabreak460 the guy was just playing along with the joke when put in that moment, he clearly would not have taken the match without the peer pressure
Craig showing the second most concerned face I've ever seen.
What was number 1 ?
Ahahahah
@@TheFundertaker don't ask dumb questions. This is B team. Don't be that guy, who misses the whole joke
Hit em with the “did he sign the waiver” face.
Missed a real chance to say who’s number one?
She also chose to go balls to the wall right off the bat, if you have her credentials, which is a long freaking list, it probably could have been handled far far better than that
that's what happens when you make two people put their egos on the line in front of their peers
That knee tweek to the outside was a D*** move. Especially in training
A lot of incels commenting.
Sorry to spoil the party, but this is quite horrible IMO.
I'd expect a seasoned competitor to be MUCH more responsible when rolling with a newbie. Yes, even if he talks shit (which he hardly did).
Pretty sure she could knee-ride the life out of him before choking him out, and not put him in actual danger for a second.
If I'd ever cause someone in the gym such an injury, the last thing I'll do afterwards will be to joke about it. For me, the fun stops when you actually hurt your partners or put them in danger just to make a point.
Not sure why you'd put such a video up. I can understand accidents, but it doesn't feel like something to be proud of.
exactly, shes a double gold world champ at purple. She's good enough to torture and sub him in a funny way that won't require surgery and a year off
yeah one thing that it happened. The reactions are something else
@@jarkinmalarkin lay off the crack bro
@@Jason-hp6pu lol. It's true. Look in the comments there all crying and they weren't there. They've gone tribal with male vs female. It's an injury in jiu jitsu gym and it's entertainment. There are people who are commenting, talking about being victims and who to blame. None of them were there. So enjoy or go cry in the bathroom. Have you not noticed there's always and more now who take things so seriously. Read the comments it's embarrassing.
@@Jason-hp6pu re read this guys comment about the fun stops there at the injury. It's a clip. She shouldn't say this after he writes. He has no clue what happened after. There's this weird thing you can't enjoy something without people getting upset. They weren't there and they don't really know what happened. Is America becoming a little girl. Who has to cry over everything.. there's not a clip on RUclips now where there's not someone offended and they weren't there. Yes I might start up crack lol
Craig Jones and Norah are to blame here.. Craig acting like a teenager daring Liam into the match, and Norah (a pro?) being a shitty person by breaking Liam's leg to prove herself and then making fun of it.. recovery is not only physical but psychological as well.. this is setting a bad example for younger juijitsu participants
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
@@scottlee38are you posting this under every comment? 🤨
Absolutely.
I would never train at a gym and a toxic environment like that. Very bad mindset with no reguard to people's safety.
@@5firehawk Gadi Nahary
2 days ago
Sorry to spoil the party, but this is quite horrible IMO.
I'd expect a seasoned competitor to be MUCH more responsible when rolling with a newbie. Yes, even if he talks shit (which he hardly did).
Pretty sure she could knee-ride the life out of him before choking him out, and not put him in actual danger for a second.
If I'd ever cause someone in the gym such an injury, the last thing I'll do afterwards will be to joke about it. For me, the fun stops when you actually hurt your partners or put them in danger just to make a point.
Not sure why you'd put such a video up. I can understand accidents, but it doesn't feel like something to be proud of.
@@5firehawk Scott Hartman
2 days ago
They need some adult coaches in the room. Just because you are a good competitor does not mean you have the ability to be a good leader and watch out for your team.
I don't think I'll be training at b-team.
Craig and his team doesn't have a good history with people named Gordon 🤣🤣
I was saving to go training with them. I think I'll be better going with Danaher. Less fun, but less dangerous.
That knee tweek to the outside was a D*** move. Especially in training
I hope B team helps this kid with his physio bills, no Centrelink plan in Texas
It cost us $9k
@@craigjones8662 what about the emotional damage?
@@chill00000 I mean Nora had to take one for the team there
@@craigjones8662 bahahaha!!
@@craigjones8662 lol
Going for Z lock against a kid is absolutely disgusting. There is a good reason why knee attacks are banned until expert divisions.. She could've easily wrestled up from the ashi and just win normally without crippling the kid. No clue how can anyone think this is funny or ok.
You’re saying it like he was just some little kid who was severely outmatched 💀 Nora is only a purple belt herself, training for only a few years and is significantly smaller. It’s not like she intentionally injured him
@@TheSpasticShow purple belts are good enough to teach people and she is a 2x ibjjf champion going up against some dude. Everything you said is no excuse. And the whole point was to that she could beat up the dude, which she did by tearing his knee open.
@@TheSpasticShow "only a purple belt" is irrelevant when her level obviously far surpasses that of majority of black belts as clued by her credentials
@@TheSpasticShow Purple belt world champion came out a tore a blue belt hobbyists ACL. She is good enough to know the risk of that move and she is good enough to have beat him using safer techniques.
Guys, are you for real? Liam Crelinsten is not a hobbyist, he competed at Finishers Subonly and Enigma. And the guy is not a "kid" he is 18-19 years old, training in the gym that specializes in leg locks. Sometimes shit just happens, especially, when you decide to accept a match without warming up.
They need some adult coaches in the room. Just because you are a good competitor does not mean you have the ability to be a good leader and watch out for your team.
Yea Craig needs to take a long hard look in the mirror with this one.
@@TheBlackClockOfTimeI mean I’d say she does too, she does this sport professionally and very successfully at that. Meanwhile he’s a blue belt
Man you are all soft. It's a contact sport. Shit happens. Things like this happened.
I believe some shit like this happened with Danaher and he just doesn't seem like the guy who takes shit and they split up.
I heard “watch out, z-lock.”
What else would you have him do?
Normally love the content. Did not like this at all. Dude got his knee blown out. It’s not like he got choked unconscious, or took a massive nut shot, or got the worst oil check in history and sulked in the corner. What he got was MAJOR surgery, a year of rehab and a bunch of medical bills. I hope he has insurance and I hope he recovers. I also hope that all money from this video goes to him since dude can’t work for 2-3 months, will have massive medical bills, can’t train for likely a year, and is likely never the same.
Honestly I hope he sues B-Team. This completely turned me off for these videos. Been great so far but this was a step too far.
@@TheBlackClockOfTime Likewise. I hope they do get sued. Stuff like this is bad for the entire sport.
Craig and Co encouraged this and didn't see the danger coming.
@@Austin-wy4xewaiver
My favorite part is where you repeat yourself the whole comment. We get it bro you didn’t like it 😂
I've broken someone else's limb once during training. Felt sick afterwards and it changed the way I approach training. Really disappointed with how they handled this...
Craig just posted a Q&A video in which he talks about Nora crying for half an hour after this and asking to pay for his surgery. And that the kid came back injured to script the "pre fight interview" cause he liked the video idea and Craig using it to pay for his recovery. But id imagine making your own reality, stories and naratives is much more fun?
they're like clowns, specially craig
@@aleksandarbanjanin6437 she has a smile on her face the whole time after it happened so I doubt she actually cried.
@Random Dude she looks proud.
@@randomdude3306 this shows me she knew what she did. Anyone who purposely injures a white belt should be thrown out of said gym and not allowed to train there again
I'm honestly disappointed in the B team with this. The joking and everything is great and I enjoy the high level rolling, but forcing 2 people into an ego match? I assume the lad was joking, and even seemed nervous before the match but as stated in the video, Craig has a lot of influence. If he refused the match, we all know the whole gym would have crushed his soul.
Another point, it seems Nora is more experience and wanted to prove she could beat a guy. From my point of view, she went full tournament on him. She was obviously pummeling for the leg, and the kid being inexperience was stiff, but she wanted that heel badly. His knee was straight and stiff while his knee was locked. Causing an awkward angle and she forced it causing a reap.
What kind of grosses me the most is the demasculinizing jokes afterwards. "Oh I thought he would have lasted longer than 12 seconds" Does she not realized the long, expensive recovery that kid has? Smiling after destroying a fellow training partner's knee? Kind of environment is this gym promoting?
Over all big fan, but god damn B team.
You can see people really reaching to replicate Craig's humor. Kind of cringe to do it after snapping dudes leg.
Yeah it’s messed up
She didn’t accidentally break it while trying to find a heel hook. She applied a Z-lock, which is something that should be pretty familiar to people at B-Team, and his leg snapped faster than he was willing to tap. It’s a legit sub. Maybe he thought he had more time before it broke but he wasn’t warm.
Imagine the reactions if he did that to her
@@donovanhendrick4078 he said he didn’t feel anything. Meaning he didn’t realize he was in danger.
This is really disappointing, B-Team. They're joking at the end about it being Craig's fault and needing repercussions or whatever, cracking up the whole time...yeah, that WAS Craig's fault. The kid was so obviously joking, even if he wasn't, pitting students against each other like this is nasty, and then there's just no concern for the fact that he just got an injury that will cost thousands of dollars and a year of mat time, like WTF.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
Escpecially his reaction afterwards. He could have at least apologized and said that he didn't see the snap coming.
@@MrCmon113 why would he apologize to you or youtube ? he surely did it in private with the kid and will certainly pay for his hospital fees
Uh ?!? where did u get that info ?? most unlikely imo, specially the hospital costs-
It's a competition school. Putting people together for a hard roll is not some crazy out there idea, it happens literally all the time. Yeah, it sucks when someone gets injured, but it comes with the territory.
Hey B-team, this isn't the flex you think it is.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
@@scottlee38 I mean no one is forcing me into matches that’ll result in my legs getting broken so yeah it seems a lot safer from here
@@lobsterairsoft499 I'm serious.
WTF was she thinking?!
Finally taking their clickbait game up to silver medal standard
We need this one to make money to cover his medical bills
How is it click bait if it's LITERALLY what happens?
@@craigjones8662 Did the slutty B-Team carwash fundraiser not make it past the drawing board
@@AndersRosendalBJJ the thumbnail could be on the wall of the internet museum with the title “studies in clickbait face.”
Look at his face turn from shock to smile when he realizes that this is on camera. Look at it in slow motion at 0.25x speed around 2:45.
He laughs now but that's 12 months...won't be long until the joke's not funny anymore and starts to stink. Total lack of remorse with the woman is disturbing too.
Immature.
You don't need to be remorseful when someone doesn't tap and an accident happens. This is literally the sport of BJJ, if you fail to tap then you get injured... that's just how it works. Tons of people sign up for that everyday.
@@mike8984ify If you hurt someone by mistake, most people naturally express concern, if not regret.
Nonplussed then joking about is psychopathic.
@@SuperBilroi I can't even wrap my head around the idea that you can't tell the difference between an in-person conversation between two people in private and an entertainment video posted to YT.
I'm sure Liam was fine with them posting this video, and I'm sure she was concerned in person.
Sure it was a shitty accident, but Liam is the only one who has a right to be upset by this and he ok'd the video.(because even injured he has a sense of humor unlike you) People are getting secondhand upset for a stranger because they're concern trolls.
Yeah the woman came across as a real heartless psychopath here.
@@mike8984ify If I'm a troll, don't feed me.
I wonder if everyone would have kept the same energy if he broke her leg.
Just find it funny or sad for him. America the place that has to make it about this male vs female thing. She's Australian grown and German born. That didn't happen and if it accidentally happened to her here. She would have to laugh it off because otherwise we would laugh at her.
Honestly no one would keep the same energy if their leg got broken. Fuck me a torn ACL.
@Jacques malarkin.
You would have laughed it off and made fun of her if a 175 lb guy put her in a Z lock, reaped her knee and broke it? You would not be mad at the guy at all?
Been thinking the same, ngl. This is honestly why I avoid rolling with women, it's just a lose-lose situation either way - "bro you got tapped by a woman" // "wow bro gratz you tapped a woman big deal you are stronger".....
@@philodox7599 no why? I'd be equally as mad. If I knew everyone why would I get mad. They and she made out she wanted to break his leg but I guarantee she didn't and it was an accident. You know they laughed but they all were concerned of course. It said Lachlan ghiles was a surgeon. They turned a bad situation into something funny.
What an awful outcome from a 100% unessesary situation. Poor kid, even if he recovers fully after surgery and all he will have sustained 1 year from his youth, bills and just a sad hassle to deal with. Aswell this will bother him in his older years in life, so sad.
It’s definitely a bitch to recover from but an ACL pop like this should not bother him later in life. There was no meniscus damage. He should make a full recovery assuming he rehabs it properly.
Source: I’ve had 4 knee surgeries and 2 ACL reconstructions on the same knee. I’ve been through it all with knee injuries and bad doctor advice.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
@@robbie31580 what is your opinion if you don't do ACL surgery, insted just try to rehabilitate your knee?
I'm wondering because my ACL broke last year from lockdown position.
@@tuner551 Have you gotten an MRI done? ACL tears don't heal on their own the way muscle tears do.
@@robbie31580 This is utterly wrong. 80 percent of people with an ACL/PCL tear will develop arthritis in that knee within ten years.
John Danaher has said that the 2nd source of catastrophic injury in gym is poor gym culture. This incident is no exception.
Yap. B-Team going downhill real fast if this kind of mentality continues.
Don't watch. Ask John if he's ever seen accidental injuries. Your comment is going by a clip not their actual gym.
I like the gym culture.
Shit like this, and them being accused of greasing a second time has kind of turned me off of them.
@@NotKimiRaikkonen I reckon pena heard Gordon say greasing so pena said it to. He's known for excuses
This situation was handled poorly. Layers of sarcastic humor can't cover up the fact that a gym owner chose to profit off of the injury a developing athlete hurt by a seasoned competitor. A lot of people with more experience than I do in the comments are saying that this could have been completely avoided. The guy incurred a catastrophic injury, and the gym culture at B-Team laughs it away. It seems like Liam was trying to keep up with the joke, but was also a bit dissociative. For the vast majority of BJJ practitioners, going back to the gym during the week is the win itself. Craig took a year of that away from Liam here.
It wasn't craig fault the chick that was irresponsible it was supposed to be a joke and she took it serious
It was an accidental brake. Americans stop crying over entertainment. What really happened you have no clue. The irony is that there have been more subscribers. So America start to work out which is real or not and stick to your guns.
@@jarkinmalarkin are you the gym simp or something?
@@Somethingsomethinglol no but I see a lot of people offended by a clip that they know nothing about. Are you American? Are you using the word simp because it's in fashion you sheep. Go cry over a broken leg. It's an American thing to cry over or be offended over something they don't know. Weird how the Canadian and Australian laughed it off but the Americans in the comments need a victim or blames someone even if therye not there. It's sad you can't even enjoy the jiu jitsu clip.
@@Somethingsomethinglol name a sport where there are no injuries and go watch that. Liam is 20 years old and competes at a high level and trains at a gym that specialises in leg locks. Maybe watch something more safe. Dancing, nope they get injured. I dunno just go to a safe space and watch kids show.
So let me get this straight. A team member breaks his knee, needs surgery, followed by roughly a year of therapy for what? A stupid gym call out. What Gordon said about how B team views lower members seems to be correct. You can’t make money in this sport of you’re broken. Not only that, but depending on his job he could have significant financial loss. One thing to get broken in competition, it’s another to get broken from gym stupidity. The cherry on top is they make a comedy out of it. Great gym environment…..
I can’t believe they are making a joke out of this. The guys knee is destroyed
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
Yeah seems a bit distasteful
@user-zh9lf4zy2gno it couldnt if you have a training partner who gives even a little bit of a fuck about your safety. This is why bjj is a turn off for many people, what’s fun about “almost” getting your limbs broken all day?
BJJ guys have day jobs?
Imagine posting a clip of your student getting mangled in a match he was pressured into against a world class grappler. Bubonic levels of cringe.
don’t be a 🐱worst that could happen was him tapping to a female nobody thought that he would get injured + accidents happen
He could potentially sue them for damages. He was coerced into a fight with a higher level athlete and got hes knee destroyed. Damages could be not only financial but mental aswell.
@@Madnoxlol well considering his brother is one of the owners I doubt that happens. Makes it even more fucked up really. That’s his little brother that got his knee fucked, over what ?
@@joebeast15 It's an accident. there's a risk of doing BJJ
@@Madnoxlol You 100% can't sue, it's in the contract you sign when joining any combat sports gym, there's even risk of death included.
Why would you crank a knee sub on a team mate??
To be honest, think this is a bit fucked up. Obviously this was not the expected outcome when Craig set up the challenge match, but a year off the mat and a serious injury for life seems like a high price to pay for some dumb shit talking, and it could have been avoided and handled better.
I agree with you, but honestly I am not experienced with BJJ to really understand what happened. I have see people try to reach under their opponents leg like that before and I have never see a leg snap like that when they are doing it. I don’t know if how she did this was irresponsible or wrong or dangerous, I think that she was just trying to set up a leg lock. I don’t think that what she was doing was even a leg lock yet.
Yeah I feel like for a match like this, leg locks should maybe be off limits or something agreed. Its funny and all , but that guys life for the next year is gonna be different
100% not her fault either though, don't feel the leg locks were the issue, just the high pressure situation they were put in
This is pretty dead on. I appreciate that he took it with good humour and it’s their Schtick to sort of turn it into a joke… But an ACL rupture is a lifelong injury. Even post-rehab, you rarely ever feel as confident or strong on that leg. Pretty rough.
@@MrGunfunfunNot her fault 100 % 😂? What the hell man, she had him locked up and if I am not mistaken she pushed his leg sideways from there. Don't know who this was not snap. I would say 100 % her fault. She is obviously highly trained and could have just taken the Position and stopped. No way for him to get out anyways.
She finds it funny to cause months of expensive recovery? Nice gym
And emasculates him on top of that.
Craig said in a reddit post that all of their interviews were scripted
Damien walking in after the madness killed me 😂
Literally Donald Glover walking in with the pizzas from that one scene in community lol
Hey people, if the person you're rolling with is less experienced than you are (and especially if they're not leg-lock savvy), do NOT put them in a Z-lock. Totally unnecessary. Just getting to the position itself is very injury-prone. I hope that guy doesn't continue to (jokingly) antagonize girls for the lols, and I hope that girl learns to roll in a much safer manner with fellow teammates/drop-ins.
We can thank Liam for sacrificing himself so that the whole jiu-jitsu community learns not to fuck lightly with Z locks, and also thank Nora just because she's a hot assassin
@@marwanshamsia I wouldn’t call her hot, but she’s not bad looking. What makes her hot is the fact that she’s a badass, but like the OP said, she’s way more experienced and should’ve known the potential harm she could and did cause. Not cool. That bumps her down from hot to just okay lol
@@marwanshamsia I don't think shes hot but to each their own :o
@@marwanshamsiashe is indeed very hot I agree
This kid's career ended before it started...
That knee tweek to the outside was a c*** move
My biggest concern in training is not to hurt my training partner and not to get hurt. Shameful posture of this girl.
I wonder how Ethan feels about this. As somebody with brothers, I can confidently say I'd be pretty f*cking pissed off if one of the people I own a gym with peer pressured my brother who sucks at leg locks into a match against a fairly high level competitor where he then gets his knee broken, from the looks of it catastrophically. Lateral knee breaks are nasty. And yes, I know Craig apparently paid for the guy's surgery but that doesn't make any of this remotely okay. And, maybe I'm just not a psychopath but when I roll with somebody at my gym, even we're "going hard" and I put them in a reap/Z-lock (which I wouldn't do if I can tell they don't know anything about what's happening), I wouldn't actually go for a Z-lock lateral kneebar. Those come on fast, especially if people have no idea what's going on. A lot of black belts, including high level competitors especially in bigger weight classes don't even know what this is. I mean those guys BARELY know how to defend regular heel hooks. I'd feel differently if she went for a heel hook and at least gave him some time to tap while he was dead to rights which somebody at her level should be able to do.
Exactly... you never injure your partners like this, what was she thinking?
I would imagine his brothers knows what goes on in bjj gyms, dipshits. Its clearly a freak injury, she didnt even attack his legs, just moved into position. Imagine describing this as soke sort of playground peer pressure situation. Don't warm up and find out?
@@NotKimiRaikkonen Do you think this was a sumission attemp that she yanked to hard on? Clearly a freak accident as they both tried to settle im position, does you peanut brain not comprehend that these things happend?
@Disgruntled Simp Mod He just said he used it as a "marketing ploy" to pay for his surgery and kid himself when back and did "pre fight" intervies after the match with a fucked up leg becuase he was fine with the video idea. Watching you people try to make this into a "craig jones the big bad meanie breaking kids legs for fun and ca$h" is fucking hilarious
@@NotKimiRaikkonen oh shit you’re all over here… hmmm, Gordon, is that you?
Shocked and disgusted by Nora's post match interview. Shameless.
She's a sociopath. She was trying to be funny with sexual innuendos while trying to be taken seriously as a female competitor.
Yup
Hi. I'm from Russia. It's hard for me to translate your words
Please help me . Where can I watch Nora's interview?
@@1iN2ane She basically laughed at him and made some sexual references about him not lasting long. She was very smug about it and wants to fight him again in a year. She's a true POS. I hope that clears it up for you.
@@Dmoriarty1993 English is not my native language. If it doesn't bother you - write in simple words
I didn't understand anything
The more I see from these guys the less convinced I am that they were the “good guys” in the DDS split
Yeah I always thought Gordon was a bad dude because of how much crap he talks. But when you actually watch him, he is concerned with his partner’s safety and having a good training environment.
I went to Gordon Ryan’s seminar twice and he’s been nothing but a courteous gentleman.
Fr.
Aged like milk 🥛
@@user-lj8ui9ew4x not really lol
I started watching this because I thought it was fake and all in good fun. That is cringy to let this happen but then to film more and air it on youtube. I really like the B-team videos but this was a hard one to watch after I realized it wasnt fake.
Honestly this is pretty gross, a kid got badly hurt while they all watched and laughed, and now they're trying to turn it into a massive joke. Honestly Craig is starting to seem like a bit of a cunt. I get that Americans like Australian humour and stuff but he's leaned too far into it now.
you got your student's leg broken for content? looks like a fun gym to train at
Yeah..
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
Bjj happend in a bjj gym, oh no
Must’ve watched this video 30 times, quite heartbreaking to watch. You can feel Ethan’s frustration with what happened.
Hopefully they can learn from this incident moving forward.
Does the fact that all the before and after interviews were scripted for entertainment change you're feelings at all?
@@petemoss9704 Craig is saying that is what happened after the fact, but most of ethan's interview was just describing what happened and not making jokes about craig (very different from when nicky ryan just saying 'this just goes to show how terrible of a person craig is'). Ethan says right before the incident, during the roll, "don't get injured." And come on, imagine if it was your little brother, would you be happy with this at all?
This is really fucked up! Liam got put in a situation where his knee is fucked by the people that were supposed to look after his well being;
and then everyone sits and smile/joke about him getting injured and needing surgery?
First, this was definitely a freak accident. Everyone's reactions - even Nora's - show genuine shock. Nora didn't even have the z lock secured, even if others could see she was going for it. A combination of Liam not knowing how much in danger he was while Nora attempting the z lock, Liam straightening his leg which was not the correct response to a z lock, and for some reason, Nora goes for an under hook on Liam's leg which seems to put some pressure on the knee. Shit happens and this totally sucks. Second, the pre and post interviews are all scripted and done after the accident - Craig addresses that this video is to help raise funds for Liam. Third, B Team covered the costs of Liam's medical bills, not leaving him to dry. I'm sure Craig and Nora felt like shit about it, but bjj is a risky contact sport, and this is the risk of training under intense pressure or high stakes - that added mental pressure can cloud judgement leading a partner to go too hard or not have the correct response. But, how else are you supposed to get better, if you want to compete, you have to train under pressure, with spectators, and with good training partners. Lastly, it's totally a B Team move to make a satire of something serious.
Got to hand it to Craig. He saved a lot of people a trip to his gym. Even though where I live is worse. Also what kind of champion is Nora? This was such a crap show but they were honest. Now it's your fault if you roll there.
Yeah she comes across as a really heartless psychopath here.
Its actually kinda surprising to see how many people are describing this as some sort of bad behaviour by Nora who clearly did nothing but try to roll, like literally nothing she didn't even attack or anything. I wonder how many brain cells are behind these types of comments.
@@aleksandarbanjanin6437 how many brain cells do you have is the real question? Their teammate did the same thing to someone in competition so they drill this and are fully aware of what can happen. “She didn’t even attack” yet she tears his acl by applying force to his knee in a direction it doesn’t bend. 🤦♂️
@@aleksandarbanjanin6437 yeah. Totally the kneelock applied itself. Nora had no intentions of doing anything besides the deliberate cranking of his knee. Keep dreaming simp
Imagine he snapped her knee lol the world would go nuts. Stay away from rolling with her 😂😂😂
She would have tapped...
@@mike8984ify yeah but only because she clearly knows what position she's in. Even an arguably top level guy like Kennedy Maciel got injured in a Z-Lock at ADCC and that was a "normal" Z-Lock and not the lateral knee pressure position Jozef used at WNO which is a finish most people, even people that might know normal heel hooks, might not be familiar with. I mean look at the guy, she hit one of the most predictable entries on him ever. Shin on shin to reap. And then he tries to pummel his free leg in to what.. counter? From having his leg reaped already? And then he just keeps it straight? He did not know wtf he was doing, that's clear as day. So yes, if it was the other way around, some purple belt adult no gi champ going with some chick that was brand new and didn't know shit about leg locks and he broke her shit then people would not be making fun of her and laughing about it.
@@mike8984ify He obviously didn't realize he was in danger. She did. Don't be an idiot.
This is the equivalent of a black belt ripping a heel hook on a blue belt and then saying "WeLl He ShOuLdA jUsT tApPeD!"
Craig is not to blame he just wanted a fun match between the girl and the guy.
The frickin girl is to blame for ripping apart the leg of someone obviously less skilled than her without giving him the chance to tap. If you break someone in competition, ok, but in the gym in a fun and friendly roll, thats totally not ok.
Just imagine the roles were reversed, then this guy could never show his face again at the gym.
You could clearly see how surprised she was when his tendon broke -- she didn't expect it. And you don't just "feel nothing" when you're in a z lock, you get time to tap and he didn't.
@@astersetra6820looked like she was only applying pressure with it for like half a second he definitely didn’t have time to tap
Bullshit.
Craig instigated it and he's far more experienced than them. Neither of them expected the break, but he should have anticipated it. And failing that, he should have been sorry afterwards.
@@astersetra6820 u fell a little bit but u kinda have to know the position to know that your in real danger liam is a fucking beginner ofc he isnt gonna know when to tap to a z lock
@@astersetra6820 She's a two times world champion, but he should have seen it coming?
He had no time to feel anything or to tap. His leg was wedged in and his knee broke to the side when she was scooping up his leg, before even getting into the z-lock proper.
Yeah I'm never rolling with people like this ! Gordon is right about the B-Team , bunch of unprofessional clowns.
All jokes aside, this is just proof of the fact, that leg locks are inherently way more dangerous.
Like Liam said “I didn’t feel anything”
There simply was no time to tap, one moment he was okay, the other moment a small shift is made, and snap, a life altering injury.
Very similar to my ACL tear. I didn't feel any discomfort and it just went.
Not inherently more dangerous, but the injury/recovery times are just life destroying if you use your body for work. Can't walk properly from anywhere to 6-9 months that's without taking getting back to training in consideration.
That's why knee reaping and any hold that puts lateral stress or torsion on the knee (everything except a knee bar) are fouls in IBJJF competition in all divisions except brown and black belt no-gi. Makes you wonder why this purple belt world champion did something that would have got her disqualified in competition.
@@SorenCicchini She does no-gi, where its legal
It also didn’t really look like she fully had anything locked either. It looked like she was trying to adjust the leg before attempting a sub and it just popped. I hope they make a short vid explaining the mechanics of what went wrong.
Why is a world champ leg locking a kid…
B-Team/Nora owes this kid a year's worth of paid medical expenses. I hope this video generates a lot of money, because medical bills are coming...
Personally, I’m of the opinion that when you know someone is in danger and they themselves don’t know it, just let go. They train another day and you don’t need to worry about it.
100%
Ego complicates that for some people 😅
10000000000%
Accidents happen. Pretty sure if she thought he was in danger, she'd have let it go.
@@mike8984ify you’re probably right… there are some positions though where you know an opponent does not realise what’s even going on. So progressing a joint lock that targets those ligaments could mean the opponent doesn’t even feel anything, and then damage! I appreciate it was harder to be mindful when you’re pumped up in the moment, but a bit of eye contact goes a long way.
5:57 he might only be the second best grappler on earth, but he is definitely the funniest grappler on earth.
"I did expect him to last a bit longer than 12seconds but that's not the first time a man disappointed me.If there's something good coming out of this situation is that he's always remember me as his first . I mean that's a pretty special one to have one with someone."
Lmfao thus is gold
Savage
I get Craig Jones vibes from this interview.
@@melvinkarlsson818Australians are simply a different breed of funny
Was he even a man though? Craig called him a kid
@@10pmmemes88if he wasn't before, he certainly is now
Lachlan leaves for a few minutes and he has to give surgery recommendations to a teenager lol
I do stand up comedy , and this shit here is the reason I’ve almost quit BJJ entirely. Hurts my heart cuz I started in 08, and really thought it was going to be my life.
Most gyms are not full of absolute psychos like B team...
You could do it sitting down tbh
@@xxxyyy8658 As a beginner, I really wonder how many gyms are like this?! There was zero regard for Liams safety.
@@gwashington65 This incident was (hopefully) a freak accident, though Nora probably shouldn't have put his leg into that position or gone that hard.
You do get at least one nob in most gyms though who will actively just throw even beginners into leg locks endlessly, despite them knowing that they are not allowed to
@@gwashington65 my gym is nothing like this. No gi gyms like this are cancerous
Well that’s the last video I watch from b team. Hope he recovers fully and quickly.
Don't lie
Not cool B_team and Nora.
It doesn't matter what a 17 year old kid says, you already knew he was wrong. There is no way in hell he would know known what a z lock is, so he wouldn't have known to defend it. Your point could have been proven in so many different ways, from talking to him, showing him examples, or just getting Nora to pin him a dozen different ways.
Not sure how you are all joking about this. Really hope you feel good about the lesson you taught him.
If the gym owner is pressuring students into doing dangerous things that could amount to negligence. No joke Craig could get sued here and he'd probably deserve it tbh. There's more to running a gym than just shooting the shit and rolling you have to be responsible.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
I mean he didn't pressure them into something specifically dangerous. He wasn't like hey let Nora try and tear your knee apart and you defend.
What is the "dangerous thing", a roll between two people at the school? Either it was an accident or he could have tapped, there was nothing "more dangerous" about this.
Doing something dangerous.. Like rolling with somebody in a bjj gym? 👌
@0xB1sh0p I dunno man.
Cranking some noobs knee like a "Woke Agenda" sounds pretty Dangerous!
Yeah im kind of torn on this (no pun intended), the young guy was obviously goofing around and Nora was 100% wanted to injure him.
Nicky stuttering and going to another silimar word is pure gold 😂😂😂
I think you're the sili one
@@ularlularular I just realized my sili mistake lmaoo
@@piquitomonoloco Oh, no! Contagious dyslexia!
Absolutely disgusting. His knee will never be the same again. Fully appreciate this was meant to be for humour and content, but this is honestly why so many people are put off / drop out of BJJ.. the injury rate is already high enough without having to worry about your knee getting wrecked… no training for a year… greaaaaaat…. So so worth it.
I would not train at this school
^THIS.
This is a symptom of the current toxic feminity of our society!!
A simple roll turns into an injury because the female ego is challenged.
I hope B-Team becomes a safe space for men to roll again.
Nicky Rod grasping for them big words lmao
Why is Jones smirking instead of exploding at Schultz, who being a purple belt IBJJF world champion, knows full well that what she just did is a foul that would have got her disqualified from competition (allowed only for brown and black belt no-gi)? This is disgraceful.
First and foremost that girl is immature. You can see if from how she started the round. Obviously with her list of credits she had a tremendous advantage over the kid. Going for that finish was unnecessary, this is not a comp situation. In certain countries her actions could be considered as “causing a deliberate physical harm” leading to a legal repercussions. Fast recovery to the kid and coaching staff and that girl should review their position on things.
Somewhere, John Danaher is watching this shaking head
Makes me not wanna come visit if we just trying to end each other’s careers
What an immature, preposterous disaster. She should be absolutely ashamed of herself forever but instead she's inexplicably making double entendre sex jokes about it. And so should Craig, yet he still has to be the funny man after publicly shaming and forcing that kid into the match over a joke.
Somehow Liam still has a sense of humour after breaking his leg in a match the gym owner bullied him into but B Team should learn some serious lessons from this. Grow up
"Why didn't you tap?" bro....she didn't apply the lock yet, she broke his knee while trying to underhook the leg. Having her weight fall to the side over his ankle while her leg counter pressured on his knee made the break happen. Tbf no one would have seen that one coming. The girl has a dangerous resume, i wouldn't fuck with that.
It was a z lock no?
@@Oldhandlewasabitcringeshe was just in the beginning of it the leg was not elevated and angled enough
From what you can see in the Josef Chen match from WNO, and from what I have experienced in the gym, people try to counter the reap/z-lock position by straightening their leg, which causes the lock to go instantly into the knee.
You should never straighten your leg in that position. The outside pressure of the reaping leg is suprisingly strong. You have to basicly expose your own heel to take pressure off the knee.
The Z-lock starts when you turn your hip out, because then, the pressure is applied through the hip and knee.
I hope this explanation helps keeping more people safe in that position, both offensively and defensively.
A lot of people also lack inner hip mobility as well, which can provide greater range for the ankle to to rise outside the knee.
For example, I've seen a knee/mcl explode on the mats from someone grabbing an ankle in the knee shield and twisting the wrong way. It's a serious mobility vulnerability that most people are not aware of.
This makes me nervous..cause I have been working on z locks, I would feel terrible hurting a homie.
Dude’s cool took it like a champ
It's always women who have something to prove that injure people in sparring.
Them making light of the poor dude getting his knee wrecked makes me mad like wtf
B Team approves to cu** moves
This is far more her fault than it is Craig’s, what’s the need to go for this in what’s supposed to be a fun light hearted match?
Craog was there and watched ot all. He's way more experienced, of anyone should have anticipated the break, it's him.
Gordon’s gonna have something to say about this 😂😂
Damn, she just went straight for the pop. No chance to tap lol
Nicky "The Random Word Generator" Rod 😆
Idk bro a z lock comes on so fast it just breaks and she pushed it pretty fast dudes obviously a blue belt and didn’t realize what he was in or how dangerous it was and she just broke his knee for no reason lol kinda unnecessary
Actually he's a purple belt, same as Nora.
@@sharlah4057 that makes it ok???
@@sharlah4057 he’s a kid
Whelp, next time when she rolls with a guy she better get ready to have her leg ripped off. If a guy goes full strength with her and breaks her leg, pretty sure she’s not going to like it. What she did was uncalled for.
Yea.. f her
Very disappointing with what happened and how they are carrying on afterwards. I hope Liam is ok though.
Bro it's BJJ. Shit happens. No need to act like it's the end of the world. It's not if you get hurt. It's when.
@@oteroa2 You have the wrong attitude they fucked up simple as that. Even though Craig apparently paid for the surgery it was still really bad and completely avoidable.
@@oteroa2 What a stupid reply anyone with a half a brain could see this was completely avoidable.
Shitty move by Craig and the girl. The boy was clearly outgunned, and hurting a teammate that bad for laughs and giggles sucks big time. The stupid comments afterwards were the cherry on the top.
Tearing someones leg joints is not funny at all, especially for clout, be a bit more sympathetic cause these kinda injuries have long term consequences
This is not funny at all. It is a terrible gym accident. I hope this dude is ok. Long road ahead for him.
As a judoka this is why i i never considered doing bjj smh . Its too much of an ego art , like one person might just be trying to train & the other person might really be trying to hurt you
Isnt that a dirty move to pull on a teammate, or anyone? HIs leg had nowhere to go, and to purposely bend it like she did, there was only 1 result possible. WTF? Wheres the responsibility? Wheres the "dont hurt your teammate in practice so they can go to work the next day"? And why is everybody laughing about it?
This isn’t funny at all. That guy seemed like he was obviously joking and Craig pressures him into a match where he gets his leg snapped. Then they just egg on him some more. Love B-Teams content but this was done in really bad taste and a huge miss in my opinion. Being a troll has to be separated from being a good coach for your students.
I would think a world level bjj player would have enough sense to not commit to any fucking leg locks. From the get go she was fishing for the legs .
I couldn’t imagine sparring with a newbie and just being like “oh imma Throw in elbows to prove a point”
Distasteful as fuck.
His ACL became a BCL.
It’s totally normal for a professor to set up a mock match for a fake feud in the gym. Accidents also happen. But that lady pushed that knee out way too far after it was locked. That was the only outcome. Responsibility on her 100%.
“Why didn’t you tap, bro?” 💀💀💀
I torn my ACL and this is not something you take this lighlty. Wtf
I think I fell in love with Nora for a moment there... but then Nicky Rod stole my heart away from her with that flawless recap 😂
The second camera gives a better view. Nora had his knee immobilized and was very intentionally putting significant force into bending Liam’s leg sideways. She has the experience to know how much danger she was putting her TRAINING PARTNER in. Given the small amount of sideways movement the knee can handle, the force she put into it is equivalent to ripping a full armbar on someone without giving them time to tap. This was reckless and irresponsible.
At my gym there are no excuses for hurting someone like this - if your partner isn’t tapping because of ignorance/inexperience/stubbornness/whatever, you take the moral victory and move to another position - you don’t push the submission and risk injury. Some submissions don’t give you a pain warning before you’ve been injured and using those submissions should be restricted to people that have been trained to protect themselves and their partners. Liam should also have been trained to recognize the danger of that position before being put in a situation where it could be used on him.
The difference in their levels of experience accentuates the negligence here but even if I was training with a BLACK BELT, I would avoid injurious pressure and ask later what they thought about the danger they were in. This is simple care and respect for everyone you train with.
Craig's immediate pause face when it happened is hilarious lol...
Look at his face turn from shock to smile when he realizes that this is on camera. Look at it in slow motion at 0.25x speed around 2:45.
this is so lame. any one laughing at this or saying this is in any way ok.... horrible. not funny at all. lost so much respect for b team. so unprofessional
craig should 1000000% be responsible for every single bill related to this
Not a great look for your gym...
Idk why they posted this lmao
@@PauIdenino it would be funny if he didn't get injured and she tapped him quickly. Injuries are not fun, or funny.
Yeah.
This gym is (probably) better experienced from the safety of RUclips!
I would recommend everyone go watch Brandon Mccaghren's video on leg reaping if you want an explanation for why this kid's leg broke.
The leg reap applies knee pressure which is done to expose the heel. But what happens if they refuse to expose the heel (turn their knee inside). This. This is what happens.
Titled "Do not fight the reap"
Its now been one year since Liam got his leg broken by Nora Schultz. Wondering how Liam is coming along in his rehab. Wondering how Nora is doing.
Of course, Craig is partially responsible for this, but I'm sure in his mind a world champ would have more sense than that. I'm pretty flabergasted she just did that and barely fucking flinched.
cant believe they havent taken this video down. who would want to train there if this is how they act to catastrophic life altering injuries?
4:00 bro I cringed so fucking hard.dude can’t train for a year now and is getting content farmed