The BEST Car In Each Class For Road Racing In Forza Horizon 5 - 2023 Edition!
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
- If you want to be winning Forza Horizon 5 Online Races, it is important you know what Car is the BEST to pick depending on what the Class limit is, so here is the BEST Car in Each Class for Road Racing in Forza Horizon 5, as of 2023!
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I bought FH5 impulsively a month ago and have had fun with a.i so far! I'm going to compete with people in the future. thx~!
Have fun with the PC cheaters they’re everywhere 🤷♂️. I might get a lot of hate for that statement but hey when have you known society to love truth ?
For B class I’ve had more success overall with the Acura integra. It has the great handling of the civic with more speed. It seems the tunes available are more balanced.
I can't say I've really tried it, but I will have to give it a go.
The ‘74 Civic is pretty nutty with AWD, drag tires, wide body, & rally suspension.
(I use SP4’s tune)
@@vaulthunterfromterra4053 yep. I've got three tunes for the 74. That AWD tune, the fwd tune from esv mars and a nice all around purist tune. It get a bit boring using op cars all the time though.
@@vaulthunterfromterra4053 i cant find Sp4 tune can you share the code for it?
hi brother, Ive also found a lot of success with the integra. such an amazing car for group b. Would you mind sharing your setup so I could see how it differenciates from mine? Thx
i would like to say the ih scout 800a is also one of the best B class cars. the limo, pulsar and 74 civic wouldve also been good picks
in A class, skyline r34 is another alternative, and if thats not enough, widebody r32 as well
I am aware that those are all good alternatives.
A class I enjoy using the NSX-R 92' and B class would be Skyline GTR Vspec 97'
The Limo is busted as f*ck in CC considering it’s fwd and no aero 🤣
@@vaulthunterfromterra4053 its about average in B dirt/cc but nothing too special
can be made into a powerbuild in A class as well
For the Mosler I actually use Don Joewon Song’s tune called “Grip/Speed s2
I used to, and it's very good. But that's AWD, so if you use that you might as well use the Brabham.
You sound like TommyInnit
In a good way (you have a nice voice)
@@StefanoL40 Thanks man! I appreciate it! I get quite a few people saying my voice sounds weird, so it's nice to read comments like this.
I do here that lmao
@@thecoldestwhisper1472 same
@Shadow Racing It's not weird, but it is definitely unique (in a good way). Great video! Keep it up!
Love the content man❤❤❤
Thanks man!!! I appriciate it!
This video was helpful for me to win online races!
That's great to hear.
Thoughts on:
B - Acura Integra Type R
S1 - Dodge Viper AE?
Both of those are very good for the tighter tracks with more corners, but not so good for the tracks with lots of long straights.
bro you replying to almost every comment is awesome, i wish every youtuber would do this
Yeah well I just want to keep the connection with my audience, as they are the reason my channel is where it is in the first place.
What's your recommendation for B-Class races with long straights?
Either the Ford De Luxe Coupé '32, or the Holden Torana.
R31, AE86, ‘74 Celica, & basically any ClassicMuscle or Rods&Customs that can have big rear tires.
I live in BFE and have no internet so can you do a walkthrough on tune and upgrades for the Honda civic type r? I tried tuning myself and I’m getting smoked every race
If you buy a new Civic Type R, that's not tuned, then download my Tune onto it, then remove my Tune, if you go into the Upgrades page, it will show for each thing which Upgrade is owned or not, then just install the ones that are owned, that way you get the same Upgrades as my tune. Then for the Tuning settings side of things, if you watch this, and fast forward to the 3 minute mark, it should help: ruclips.net/video/rDb7OBPk3bo/видео.html
@@ShadowRacing I can’t download your tune because I have no internet
@@adamthompson3235 Ooh. Ok. That's a bit of a problem. I will soon get back to you with the list of Upgrades I used.
...but surely you have internet if you're on RUclips?
@@ShadowRacing mobile phone to see the videos possibly but not enough internet to play FH5 on.
@@cnicsr7160 I suppose that's it.
What tire should one use for A and B class on-road racing? For C and D, I know it would be too many PI cost for tire upgrade
It varies from Car to Car.
Sometimes it's Rally Tyres, sometimes Stock Tyres, sometimes Drift Tyres, and occasionally Drag Tyres.
@@ShadowRacingBut never street and sport tyres right lol
@@ziyuezhang4143 correct. The game is very counter intuitive 😂
@@ziyuezhang4143 I use street or sport on my McLaren F1 tune for S1!
Can't remember which. The very first tire upgrade choice you get. Thing seems to shred!
So you only skip them 99.99% of the time lmao
I mean you can’t really say what’s the best for each car because it also depends on the track and some cars just have different strengths and some of these tracks allow that car to shine the most thus making that car the best for that track not the best all around
This is a very good point you make. So the way I defined the "Best" was generally by what Car for each class is the Best at most tracks. But you are right, the Cars in this video certainly won't be the best at every Track.
I just got the sesto fe for 3.5m and I have an insane grip tune on it and I can go almost 200mph in corners
Nice! 👍
Sesto fe max grip is 2,99g
Bad to the blade is 3,10g
Lol
@@hubertthi1575 Yeah but the straight line speed of the BTB is much lower than the Sesto FE.
@@ShadowRacing i know but thanks for saying
Tell me, how can I replace HW BTB in S2 class? Is CCGT similar to him?
Brabham BT62 is the best alternative, otherwise the CCGT is the next best.
Thank you sm!
Thank you for watching!!
I'm a beginner, currently i'm saving up money but I have no idea what to buy or do first, can you guide me pls.
First thing to do is get yourself a Good Car for Road Racing, (ideally some kind of Supercar, or Track Toy) and you can also use that Car for Street Scene Races. Then also get yourself a good Rally Car, which you can use for the Cross Country and Dirt Races. Then this should allow you to easily complete all the Road Races and generate some good cash in multiple ways, weather it be through levelling up and getting wheelspins, or through getting CR. from the Race Rewards. Another way to get CR. and other rewards for free is to complete activities in the weekly Festival Playlist. This game isn't too difficult to get the Cars you want, so the main thing is you just enjoy the process of working towards them.
I’ve been upgrading & tuning pretty much any duplicates I get and throwing them into the community barn finds in hope of them getting to new players.
Most of them are fully maxed so really they’re just story mode cars, but it’s something.
Which would be better to choose in an s2 race? The MT900 or MT900S?
The MT900S is the better one for the Point to Point "Sprint" Races, as they tend to feature more long straights, in which the MT900S is better for. But if it's a circuit, those tend to have more, tighter corners, where the MT900 GT3 is better.
@@ShadowRacing sweet thank you, I bought both just in case lmao
MT900 GT3 is better off in S1. Tracks you’d normally use it on in S2 can be done with the CCGT or BT62
This is a great vid and u should deserve for subscribers and views!
For a class road I just use the ford f450 and I beat bone shakers in it lol
Thanks! I appreciate it!!
@@Cliffside_district Probably the Bone Shaker drivers are kids who can't drive.
But the f450 is actually really good tbf.
@@ShadowRacing yea
@@ShadowRacing yo I just downloaded ur ford de luxe tune for d class and it's awesome!
Lotus GP1 beat my Ford GT '05 by a few seconds. We were both driving really good. Definitly was a car difference.
At the circuit races, full of tight twisty corners, the Lotus is definitely better. But as an all-rounder, the Ford GT is a lot better, as it has much better straight line speed.
Try this lot
Mosler MT900 GT3 - S1
Brabham bt62 - S2
Diablo GTR - S2
Ae86 - B
I have tried all of them, and they are all very good mentions. The Mosler for S1 is very good, but only on the high grip tracks, and the Ford GT is a better all rounder. The Brabham is very good, but not the best Car for as many tracks as the Mosler and BTB, same goes for the Diablo GTR, and as for the AE86, it's a really competitive Car for B-Class, but not quite as good as the Civic.
@@ShadowRacing Diablo GTR is very similar to the Mosler, as the Diablo trades some power for more handling. The Diablo also has world record on circuits like Horizon Mexico Circuit. The Brabham is also similar to the BTTB, although it has more power. This makes it better for circuits like Tierra de Prospera, and Emerald Circuit; which it has world records on.
EDIT: I would also like to add that the Viper AE is the best allrounder for S1. However due to drag tyres, it may be difficult to get used to. There are many 'best cars' for racing and it is impossible to choose a definitive 'best car' for each class due to the variety of races.
@@AxSucks Good points.
I like running the 86 with 1357hp (7.2 V8) on HotWheels B Class LMAO,
same for the R31 (1270hp 2jz)
Man, the tune for the Hot Wheels Bad to the Blade is so unforgiving. Once you turn slightly too much it spins out of control. Is there a more forgiving tune that doesn't spin out?
You can try some other Tunes, but that's basically just how it is. It certainly isn't the nicest Car to drive. Either you can just practice and get used to it, or use the Brabham BT62, which is much nicer to drive, and nearly just as good.
@@ShadowRacing Thanks. Also, one more thing I wanted to tell you: Next time please tell us how to get these vehicles. I was scrolling all over the Autoshow to find some of these cars only to find out you had to complete specific races or buy them at the auction house
@@berkkarsi ah, yes. Sorry about that. I generally forget if Cars are easy or not to obtain because I'm so used to having every Car in the game.
@@ShadowRacingyeah like the CCGT is really rare to get in the auction house
For S1 i win almost every race with the Viper AE or the Ferrari 458, they're very good all rounders.
Yeah, they are good overall, particularly the Viper AE.
imo clk gtr fe holds up well with the right tune in x class due to sheer acceleration and grip
It is certainly right up there. But the Sesto Elemento FE is just too OP.
@@ShadowRacing thanks for sharing your tune btw, ive been auction hunting a bargain for the sesto fe
nice video
@@ShadowRacing finally got it for 9 mil, in firsthand when i tried how op this was it is a whole another X2 class
Do these tunes and cars apply to seasonal races ?
If the seasonal Race has open Car Type restrictions then yes. But generally they do have some Car type restrictions such as "American Muscle Cars" for example.
I don't have a Class A car and I can't access it because of a bug in the game. what is the alternative?
The alternative for A-Class is the Nissan GT-R from 1997, if that's what you mean.
@@ShadowRacing tunning code?
@@lt9823 170 026 181
Whats the s2 car called and how do you get it
There are two. One is called the Mosler MT900S, and the other is called the HotWheels Bad to the Blade, or more commonly referred to as the HotWheels BTB.
The Mosler is obtainable off the Autoshow for 320,000 CR.
The BTB requires you to have the HotWheels Expansion Map DLC, then you unlock it somewhere on the HotWheels progression system, but I don't remember where. Hope this helps.
liked your tunes. i want your tunes for other cars as well. can you share?
I'm glad to hear you like my Tunes. If you look at some of my other videos, I have the Tune share codes for the Cars in there. Or you can find more of my Tunes on my in game Creative Hub, if you go to one of my Tunes that you've downloaded, then press button X, an option will come up to view my creative hub.
@@ShadowRacing thanks, i will try that
Is the Lamborghini SE FE still strong in the X class?
It most certainly is.
Have you any idea in which Forza
game unbeatable bots are hardest to beat?
FH5 I think they are the most difficult to beat.
@@ShadowRacingOK.
Weren't harder In Forza
Motorsport 6 and 6 Apex?
@@marcinrogowski6638 It's hard to judge since the ai rubber band anyways.
@@ShadowRacingOK.
Probably one of the Motorsport games. Especially in classes like Formula E, where you can only get 400-500hp and they get upwards of 700-800hp for some stupid reason
(They get crazy speed boosts while RubberBanding)
I’m kinda poor, could I just buy the Sesto Elemento non forza edition or no?
The standard Sesto Elemento isn't nearly as good. Instead I would recommend the Mosler MT900S as a good alternative to the Sesto Elemento Forza Edition. It can be purchased for 320,000 cr. from the Autoshow.
The normal Sesto is a pretty cracked Ice car in S1 but there’s only like, 3 or 4 tracks where that matters
@@vaulthunterfromterra4053 it's certainly not a like for like alternative though.
There is a difference about lamborghini sesto elemento forza edition and the normal version?
Yes, there is quite a difference. The Forza Edition has much more grip, and I think you also can upgrade it to have far more power than the non Forza Edition.
@@ShadowRacing thanks! :) +1 sub
@@KmitzhPlays Thanks man! I appreciate that!
The FE also has all wheel steering
Thanks
Thanks for watching! 😉
can you make a video for the best cars in drag race and for drifting please
I'm not an expert at either of those subjects, but I can give it a go.
@@ShadowRacing yes please, you are the best fh5 youtuber
@@trippykirby Thanks man! I really appreciate it!
Have you any idea in which Forza
game unbeatable bots are easiest to beat?
I am not sure which game it's easiest, but I think it's probably one of the older ones.
@@ShadowRacingYou mean old
Motorsport game? I think Forza Motorsport 7 has easiest unbeatable bots to beat.
@@marcinrogowski6638 All the bots in Forza games rubber band a lot anyway, so the ai are always speeding up and slowing down to some extent, to keep up with you.
@@ShadowRacingOK.
the Sesto Elemento FE is still a great option in s1/s2
What downgrades do you have to do to get it into S1?
@@ShadowRacing I wish I knew how tune/upgrade, but I have no idea. I just slapped on tunes from the download section
@@murccc Downloading Tunes from other players is risky because some of them are complete trash. I recently made a video about how to Tune, it's well worth a watch, because being able to make your own tunes is always going to be better.
@@ShadowRacing that's fair, but idk if risky is the right word. I agree though, there's bad ones but you can just leave the house and test it out and if it sucks go get a new one. Not really a huge pain imo.
I'll check out the video though
nooo its lowest tier in s2 the number is not enough for improvement and when you make one improvement its go into x class
regular sesto elemento is better it can get more upgrade
I don’t have the game let alone an Xbox but is the Nissan gtr r35 any good in fh5 or is it just meh/viable
It's decent for S1-Class, and A-Class.
@@ShadowRacing ok but I love that car so I’ll be able to win but all the time
@@ShadowRacing sometimes I hate metas in racing games
@@ENVIXITY-BOXED-U Yeah that is very understandable.
@@ShadowRacing yeah it’s annoying because I wanna be able to win most of my races with my favorite non meta cars
The KTM xbow gt4 is the best handling S1 car ive ever driven
Yeah it's super grippy. But it just gets eaten on the straights.
Lotus GT1 obliterates the KTM-GT4
What is the exact name of the C Class Honda? I could't find it
Honda Civic Type R, I think it's from 1997.
@@ShadowRacing I mean at 1:02
@@SASUKExLEGiiT Oh, right, sorry about that. It's called the Honda Civic CRX Mugen, it's from 1984.
@@ShadowRacing for some reason i can't find Honda Civic CRX Mugen 1984 in store!
@@ErikKson I think you have to complete an accolade for it
Ur skyline setup is on off-road tyres is that right ???
No, that's not right. Are you sure it's the right set up, and not a glitch?
@@ShadowRacing idk I used the code
@@7hinex ...um, ok. Do you mean Rally Tyres or Off-road Tyres? Because I think it might be on Rally Tyres.
@@ShadowRacing something or other yes
@@ShadowRacing btw i got a q whats a rough idea to set ur brake bias to so its ok on every car?
Please tell me how to find tuning to a car by your code
OK, here's the steps:
- Go to a Festival or one of your Player Houses.
- Go to your Garage, and get into the Car the Tune is for.
- Then on the Garage Tab, there is a tile that says "Upgrades & Tuning," click this.
- Once you're in the Upgrades & Tuning page, there's a tile that says something like "Find Tunes," it's a blue tile. Click this.
- On the Find Tunes page, you then need to press the Options button on your controller, which brings up the search menu.
- On the search menu, there is a box that says "Share Code," enter the share code there, and then search.
- Sometimes it glitches and says no Tunes were found, if this happens, go back, then search again.
Hope this helps!
@@ShadowRacing Thank you i used it to find a tunning!
I like how you mentioned a meta car but also gave a different option that would disgust people as much.
A class any gtr that is a r32, r33, or r34 is great. For speed the r32 is best. Handling is the r34. And an awesome in-between is the r34. The Ls engine swap is meta for all but I do really like the purist rb builds. For s1 a lot of cars fit the bill. I just wish people would worship the AE. It’s so annoying to go against when I’m in a off meta car. Great list overall.
(Edit): In s2 mosler is the best overall because it goes like 280 mph. And the bttb is meta rwd or awd. OP rivals tunes or rwd for obvious reasons.
Nah, nothing disgusts people nearly as much as the Boneshaker.
I'd find these recommendations more reliable if you showed them against real racers not drivatars I could post videos in a fiesta and say its top tier lol
Tbf I showed 2 of the Cars against real drivers, but not all of them. You can try them all for yourself though, and then decide if this video is reliable. Sure, you could make videos in a Fiesta and say it's top tier, but as soon as I try it myself I'd find it unreliable. Simple.
how do u get the forza edition
You can get it in a few ways:
-Wheelspins
-Auction House (it's a few million cr though)
-Wait for it to become available as a Festival Playlist reward
-Wait for it to become available on the Forzathon Shop
not making fun but your lisp makes me think of the days I would have a candy apple sucker stuck to the roof of my mouth while trying to talk lol
Doesh it acshally
Lol I just got the Mosler mt900S for 40k in auction house 😂
Bargain!!!
While the Peel Trident goes for 20 mil. Lol
Y'all won't believe me, but i managed yo tune a Demon Challenger with drag tyres for a class and is good at handling
Do you have a sharecode?
Does it win online Races?
I’m pretty sure SP4 has a 1940 Ford Coupe in A Class with 1750hp & drag tires (I don’t remember if it’s his tune or someone else’s), he used it in a video.
Lexus LFA is goat, upgraded tyres, suspension, transmission, weight loss keeps it in Class S1.
It's fairly decent, but definitely not the goat.
I love Lotus Elise in A Class,
Yeah, me too. It's my favorite Car to use for Online Racing.
My 05' GT has another purpose, show car
They do make good show cars tbh
🙋♂️ Thank you so much ❤️˘◡˘❤️ for the great tunes 🚗💨💨
And a beautiful video 🤪👊
No problem! Thank you for watching it!
@@ShadowRacing You are welcome 🙏
Does lamborgini sesto element forza edition count
In what way?
@@ShadowRacing like speed or turning
@@brahthunder The Sesto FE has got good speed and turning, yes.
@@ShadowRacing thank u
i cant find the crx mugan, how can i get it ?
You can get it through completing the accolade called "Such Mugen"
@@ShadowRacing whats an accolade ? (i am french sorry)
@@lolilol. If you pause the game, there's that tile in the pause menu, to the top right of the "World Map" tile, which has a Star icon on it. This is the "Accolades" tile, so if you click on that, you will see all the different "accolades". They're basically mini Quests you can complete for rewards.
@@ShadowRacing ohhh okayyy thx alot (i was confused bc in french its called "distinctions", thx again)
Buy in auction House its 1 mil
Most of the time you see a bone shaker in the lobby the person using it is a terrible driver
Yeah very true 😂
acktually
yes, acktually
Music name?
It's called Night Run Away.
@@ShadowRacingOK.
This dude got a crazy lisp lmao, but good guide
I know, I'm trying to learn to talk without a lisp, but it's hard as I've talked with a lisp all my life, and it's only since I started making these videos and viewers pointed it out to me that I've noticed.
I can’t find the ford gt ‘05
That would be because it's not available on the Autoshow.
You can only get it from a Wheelspin, Seasonal Reward, or Forzathon shop, then of course the Auction House.
@@ShadowRacing yeah I found it
The skyline gtr is one of the worst cars for a class, either that or every single lobby is just hackers 😂😂
It's certainly not one of the worst if you have a decent Tune on it. So probably it's just hackers.
Stock clutch, stock or sport gearbox, rally tires, weight reduction, lots of power
I beat everyone in Brabham S2 class 😎😎😎
The Brabham is certainly a very strong choice of Car for S2. It is the best Car at quite a few tracks.
Like vid
Cheers mate!
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the ford gt refuses to go into corners
try slowing the Car down more for the corners. It's is a Car that very much has the tendency to Understeer, but it's speed makes up for it.
Driving bone shaker is pathetic af, there is no a competitive mode like fh4 so stop tryharding with best cars possible, its not even fun to race against them
Couldn't agree more.
4wd swaps are for those with 0 skill and farmed lv 2.999
That's a bit of a sweeping generalization.
Is Eugene speaking ?
Nah it's Bob
First of all, can you put pricing to consideration? Second of all I’m not gonna spend $10 on a hot wheels pack is just for one damn car you’re expecting we all are rich in King in Ford $10 any day bro
...if you don't have the HotWheels pack to get the Bad to the Blade, just use the Mosler. What's your problem??
mosler is 320k cr and its almost as good if not better than the bttb🤦♂️
@@a_person_i_think_maybe I sing the Mosley from the hot wheels pack
@@jmyerxa mosler is 320k cr not from any pack
It does not matter if I have the best car in Forza history, I will still be a rubbish driver. (sigh).
Diving straight in at the deep end with the Best Cars isn't really the way to get better. The way to get better is start by driving something slower and easier to drive, and get comfortable with it before moving onto something faster.
@@ShadowRacing After a year I have gotten better at driving, I think my reflexes are not as quick as they were years ago. Thanks for the advice though I appreciate it.
the voice irritates me. but thank u keep it up. love ur vids
So how exactly do you expect me to change the way my voice sounds??
@@ShadowRacing he doesnt, he just finds it annoying.
@@10CentWenty and what can I do about that??
@ShadowRacing nothing, its like telling someone they have cancer stage 99
@@ShadowRacing tag didnt work
Where is the McLaren f1 gt?
It's not very good all round. It is good at tracks with lots of long straights, but it's low speed traction isn't so good.
@@ShadowRacing I tuned my f1 gt and I got 12.5 sec festival dragstrip and made the best handling tune
@@dhruvcreddy Drag Racing is very different from Road Racing, because in Drag Racing it's only about Acceleration and Speed. For Road Racing corners is right in the equation.
@@ShadowRacing I made a separate tune for racing
@@dhruvcreddy ok
Curry’s
Tikka Masala?
Ummm... Actually ☝️🤓
Ummm... Actually ☝️🤡
i really wish to like the lambo sesto FE but i can't learn to drive it. It has an insane high speed steering capability but you need to take the turns with an exact amount of RPM otherwise the car lose grip and fuck up the turn easily. I mean while you drive you know it can steer a lot so you slow down lesser on turns, often with no need to downshift, but this is a trap cause then you rpm are to low and the car begin to slide and lose grip.
First of all, make sure you have a good Tune on it, there are some really bad ones out there. Then, secondly, a good way to get used to it is by learning to drive something with a lot of grip, but in S2-Class, like the Brabham or AM Vulcan. That way, you learn to drive similar Cars to the Sesto FE, just at a lower speed, then when you feel you've mastered that, the Sesto won't feel so hard to drive.
J😊
No sirven los códigos
Deberían hacer. A veces falla y no funcionan.
He be like 🤓
You be like 👶
@@ShadowRacing ok you're opinion is your opinion and mine is mine👍
@@michamierzejewski5394 But your opinion is wrong.
That's a bit mean to make fun of his voice
why so aggresive?
What's aggressive?
@@ShadowRacing your pronunciation 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@baconboss9896 it's just how I talk though
@@ShadowRacing I know but like...
@@baconboss9896 ... it's not like I chose how my voice sounds.
Yeah these are all wrong
What should they be then??
In Forza 5, insecure people use Lamborghini Sesto Elemento. This car should be banned in the game.
Skill issue
@@vaulthunterfromterra4053 Playing with this car is very, very easy. Especially in the X class. I don't particularly play with this car because the game reverts to a 2000's arcade game.
People use it to get optimal scores on PR Stunts. What's wrong with that??
@@ShadowRacing Imagine joining a convoy. Someone who uses Sesto in the X Class class will usually go to the endpoint first. There are children who are proud of it. (I don't use Sesto) I'm really laughing at this situation.
@@automatte Just ignore those kids. Let them be proud of it, if it makes them happy. As long as they're not ramming you left, right, and centre, they aren't ruining your fun.
God the discord mod was strong in this one
Wdym?
Your civic type r tune is really bad buddy
Where does it fall short of your standards?
@@ShadowRacing the 0-60 is almost 1.5 sec slower than the 5 star tune for the same class with very similar handling etc.
@@gatofury2000 That's to be expected with FWD. But ultimately, while it may not gain with handling, and it may loose with the 0-60. Because of the extra power you can get by being FWD, it gains you a lot down the straights.