Yes! I have mental health conditions but I can't imagine hurting someone and then blaming it on that. Like, at the end of the day you're an adult and you have to do everything you can to keep yourself and others safe regardless of your diagnosis.
To start, I’m jewish. I have noticed a huge increase in antisemitism in the past few years. People in my old neighborhood (which is known for being very left leaning) were flying swastikas, a jewish friend of mine had a gun pulled on them for wearing a Star of David, etc. Upon seeing Kanye’s tweet, I was filled with dread. Every time a person in power says something like this, my people die. I am terrified for the Jewish community right now. I can feel another increase in hate crimes coming, and I am scared. If you are not Jewish, please stand up for us. Ask the Jewish people in your life if there is anything you can do to support and protect us. We need you right now.
I'm so sorry to hear about your friend and that traumatic experience. This must be horrible for you. I just hope kayne leaves social media because he's just not okat
ik i’m jewish too and my baby sister goes to our temple for preschool and there are always multiple cops there due to the risks of violence it always is a reminder that people want to kill me for simply being jewish
oh my god, I’m so sorry. thank you for bringing this to my attention, though. I know my privilege is showing but I honestly had no idea it was getting this bad
i’m so srry for you and you’re community all of this hatred is so confusing and frustrating. i hope we can all protect each other until we don’t need to anymore.
I think it's impossible to ever fully separate the art from the artist. Speaking as someone who enjoys HP Lovecraft's work and the cosmic horror genre, the racism, ableism, misogyny, and classism of Lovecraft is utterly inescapable in his writing. Artists put their worldview and beliefs into their art, even in small ways. Especially art that is meant to convey a message or emotions. Plus, by supporting the art, you are likely funding the artist or increasing their popularity and influence in some way. I think the conversation is really less about separating the artist from their art and more about how we as consumers can ethically consume art made by harmful people, as well as what constitutes harm and is that enough to withhold our support. There's no solid answer, and it's up to the individual really.
You "people" always call other people "dangerous" or "harmful" because they say things you hate. Other people believe in things that you don't so you start telling them "you are wrong. And you're racist."
@@boneappleteeth3127 Wait hang on, are you trying to argue that HP "Look up my cats name" Lovecraft *wasn't* racist???? Do you hate leftists so much that you are willing to die on the hill that Lovecraft is a totally cool, not racist dude????
I definitely think it's *theoretically* possible to separate the artist from the art. But ye (maybe even more than Lovecraft) has ALWAYS put a lot of himself into his art, often making it outright autobiographical. The distance between artist and art is variable and nuanced, and a horrible person making art imo doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't consume it (since you can consume most art without paying the artist). I wish people would stop making it all one thing or all the other.
@@hankstranagalwilly6777 Yup! If you can't see their comment, they said something like "you people always call people dangerous or harmful because they don't think like you."
Pretty sure making someone watch a porn video is sexual harassment. That's uncomfortable as fuck and I can only imagine how it feels being forced to watch something like that so you don't piss off the unstable guy across from you, regardless of sexual orientation or anything else. It's sad how far gone Kanye is
Not to mention how many porns do you gotta be watching to find one which sounds exactly like a guy you know.... then on top of that save it, or remember it so you can show him next time you see him. It's creepy af and funny since he calls himself the ultimate Christian religion man.
I’m bipolar. Let me tell ya, from so many different meds to therapy for years, I’ve worked my ass off to be “normal” and it is really really upsetting to see Kanye being openly PRAISED for being absolutely unhinged, and doing things that if someone like I did, would get me locked up in a mental hospital.
@@Taradoxxi Conservatives are praising kanye fooooooor......................................Pushing against this "black lives matter" narrative. That's what you meant to say.
Kanye has stated in interviews before he loves when people are against him. That’s how he came to his rise to fame, but after establishing himself, he realized most people were now with him, agreeing with him and generally enjoying his music. With people no longer against him, he continues to try and do the most outlandish things possible in order to get people against him once more, though this time it seems he’s doing this while his mental health is really badly deteriorating. Not defending him, just trying to get a sense as to why he says the things he does.
“You can love your kids but not give a shit about them” so fucking true. I deal with that with my kids father. You can love your kids a lot. It doesn’t make you a good father.
The way that he put it was perfect, especially in reference to Kanye. In the end, we don't know what goes on in celebrities lives (not really) but as someone who has watched KUWTK for a long time, you can see that "you can love your kids, but not give a shit about them" is honestly so true. Poor kids, hopefully Kanye is better behind the cameras and what not, but either way the kids deserve a loving father that would put them first not some twitter fame.
This always makes me so mad after watching him come to tears after talking to a black women on an interview, he said he doesn’t want his people to feel like he’s against them but then turns around and does racist things to amp up an upcoming project
@@MurfyMae bc it’s only a thing bc Black Lives Matter was created lmao literally was just made to combat blm which is odd bc why do u disagree? All lives matter I can almost see the argument behind it
@@MurfyMae watch the video. This has been explained ad nauseum ever since "black lives matter" became a slogan. Think about it for a second. If someone said "ALL diseases suck!" every time some cancer survivor said "Cancer sucks" would you not understand why people have a problem with it?
In the discussion of separating the art from the artist, I think we will never truly be able to separate art effectively, especially when they are just as public as their music like kanye.
What about his music that discusses issues going on the black community? Just because he’s obviously going through a severe mental health crisis means we have to disregard the fact that his musical career was started talking about issues like the crack epidemic and police brutality? Get a grip
@@skateboard446 I didn't say any of that, I said he and his music are intertwined and it's up to you to decide to listen. I think we agree more than you think, his music was started talking about those issues and it can't be separated from that either
bro seeing ppl like kanye makes me wish that deplatforming and “cancelling” actually worked. this man needs to not being on social media bc its harmful to himself and everyone who reads the horrible shit he spouts.
@@masonsobel366 its kinda unbelievable to say words aren't harmful. Hitler literally got an entire country to turn against a whole race through speeches. Trump incited a literal terrorist attack on the White House through tweets and rallies. Words are the most powerful thing in a society.
Being a Kanye fan is so hard sometimes. The music is great ofc, but his persona up until the yeezus era meant so much to me and my development as a person. I literally wouldn’t be the person I am without this influence. But the further he goes down this right wing rabbit hole the more I feel hurt by Kanye. Everything that he was and meant to so many people he actively undermines by being the exact thing that he used to stand against. The positive side his legacy is being erased by everything he’s done since the trump era (if we’re being honest this started around the rollout of yeezus). He is now everything that he stood against during the first half of his career and is so far gone that I don’t know what to do
This is too relatable, He is too influential in my life to the point that I wouldn't be alive right now writing this comment if it wasn't for his music but it's getting extremely hard defending his shenanigans Everytime
His first album was his best work anything else has been him tripping on acid. Few years later he’s a self proclaimed genius. C’mon now. He’s been mentally ill for decades
Lmao you don’t have to form a parasocial relationship with him and agree with his political views to be a fan. You could just be a normal person and enjoy the music and stay off twitter
thank you for talking about this! nice to see a big commentary channel like you actually addressing issues like anti-semitism! as a jewish fan, i really appreciate it
Literally everyone is talking about this you just have a parasocial relationship with a leftist who makes you feel welcomed. It’s cute. But not genuine.
On the conversation of separating the art from the artist, a case that just came out today comes to mind. After listening to Rex Orange County for years, it is extremely hard to do so today knowing he has 6 pending sexual assault charges. I related and cried many nights to his music, but as a victim of SA myself it is hard to know that I'm financially supporting another predator when listening. I feel like this discussion comes down to what you are comfortable with giving your co-sign to. The art and the artist can only be separated so much especially in cases where their life and music are tied together very closely, such as Kanye.
I get second hand embarrassment when people say to separate the art from the artist cuz if you think about it your still supporting them every time you stream their music or buy merch that’s their income that your contributing to. Kayne has done and said some out of pocket shit and people still support him on the DL and it sucks cuz what point are we trying to prove to people who already hate said artist or other artists in general. It gives others the green light
Bruh to hear a black man say that black people chose to be slaves, chose to be held against their will, tortured, lnyched, raped, killed is soooo messed up, it’s all conditioning. But how can he look at his daughters skin and think that the pain and suffering behind that was “chosen “
Well 18 of 20 trans Atlantic slave running out of Newport were Jewish owned and run . It was Jews that was the biggest player in the slave trade . Monsanto was one of the big players and now the Monsanto family is the biggest corporations in GMOs . Read the book white gold . Arabs and Jews were the slave traders in Europeans before and during the trans Atlantic slave trade . Now Europeans are the ones that get scapegoated for it all . I'm not saying Europeans are innocent of this crime . They had their part in it . But when over 70 % of all slave owners in America was Jewish the scales are tipped . And to leave a quote from the old testament . The Lord detests dishonest scales, but accurate weights find favor with him” (Proverbs 11:1).
@@MashalaT I just mentioned that due to the conditioning of the Zionist media and Hollywood of scapegoating and creating more victims . Kayne possibly knows this for himself . Still choosing to be slaves by what you are told to believe to this day keeping you in a mindset by the ones that first enslaved you. You want to know who rules over you ? It's the ones you can't speak truth about .
thank you for speaking on antisemitism. it rarely ever gets talked about and it is so disheartening to see jewish discrimination and hate going continuously unnoticed by those who speak up for other marginalized communities. this is very scary cause kanye has more followers than there are jewish people on the entire earth.
I'm bipolar too. I'm Jewish. It's honestly scary to see shit like this. Being bipolar doesn't cause you to suddenly become antisemitic. That's from him. I used to listen to his music, but I can't separate him from what he puts out like this. I won't financially contribute to his success when it also means he has the platform to spew this stuff. The best thing for Kanye would be a reality check. How can he claim to be Christian, and then spread hate? For someone so big on God's grace, he sure is being hateful and judgmental.
Saying "Jewish people manage big parts of society" is not racist. That really what people are saying. How is it "antisemitic" to say "Jewish people are great with finances"? Or "Jewish people really know great talent and entertainment". How is that "antisemitic"?
@@chris135x Ok you're so painfully obviously a troll and I've seen you in several comment sections by now. You KNOW that isn't just what people are saying. You are completely aware that people are insinuating that Jewish people control the world, and that that is a negative thing. Don't play dumb.
@@malchickoleander How exactly is it bad to say "Jewish people know how to manage entertainment and finances"? Hmm, kid? How is it wrong or bad to say that?
The sheer lack of self awareness when he says people only pay attention to Lizzo because of how "unhealthy" she is. Like bro, you think anyone would be looking your way if you stayed on your meds. >.>
@@megand12345 famous no popular yes. People would like him better if he got help he'd still be the billionaire multi talented artist he just would also be respectable
I personally love her music lol. Id still love her even if she was a healthy weight. Her voice and personality is overall just nice to me. And i think she has alot of energy on stage.
he never said that or meant that, he even made a follow up post to this. he has expressed that all lives no matter the color of skin hold the same value, and that the shirt was poetry expressing how society operates with the media today. I am literally a left-leaning democrat too but I can at least see the message he is trying to get across. too many people try to draw conclusions that are completely wrong from what he is actually trying to say or completely misinterpret him.
@@StarCountry maybe he wouldn't be misinterpreted if he didn't 1. have a precedent of being chummy with white supremacists like Trump and Carlson and 2. didn't use a phrase that has been co-opted by the KKK for several years now?
I just wish people weren't so impressionable. Like this guy said, I don't care what Kanye says, it's just that now we have to worry about a resurgence of hate speech if people are inspired by him.
If you really enjoy a problematic musician’s music and it helps you go through your life and you really cant live without it, lyric videos can be a good way to not give them money, but still enjoy the art ^^
Don't they get copyrighted and all revenue goes to the artist anyway? I think uploads on SoundCloud don't give the artist any money though if you wanted to try that
@@clownRatcity depends, often they aren't monetized at all, so they don't get claimed, they just don't make any money (because the channel uploading them doesn't monetize them)
My mother is a mixed coloured woman , and the amount of discrimination she is receiving is disgusting , to the point I’m worried about her safety , all of this does not help! She can’t leave the house at this point without certain discriminative comments towards her . I send all my love and support to all the people suffering the same or worse ! Please be safe !
Kanye West manipulates. He manipulates Kim Kardashian (who I have no love for, but does not deserve the treatment she is getting), he manipulates the public.
I’m really glad and grateful to hear someone who stands up against anti-semitism where most stay silent. As a Jew I find myself sometimes disappointed in people who let things like what Kanye said slide but will say something about other subjects or causes in general when I’ve also supported them. thank you for using ur voice against things which incite hate among people!
This whole situation really reminds me of J. K. Rowling and her transphobic comments/media that has come out in recent years. And how people are having a hard time reading her Harry Potter series or looking back on their nostalgia of enjoying Harry Potter with a tainted view. It really shows that some of the worst people can make good art but it’s always complicated when it comes to separating the art and the person.
its very true how she tainted her series, i was never a harry potter fan but tried getting into it, all i could think about was how rowling is a transphobe (and thus i couldn't enjoy the first book)
The conversation you brought up at the end was interesting to ponder. The actions of an artist can really change the context in my experience. I'm autistic and I used to adore Sia and her music. I even spent a week making an animation inspired by one of her songs. But after seeing the way she talks about autistic people and going ahead and working with Autism Speaks, a known hate group, I feel disgust every time I hear one of her songs on the radio. I cannot separate the art and the artist in that situation.
@@boneappleteeth3127 Nope. Look into Autism Speaks. They write propoganda demonizing autistic people, like myself. Your comment is invalid because you're ignorant.
@@boneappleteeth3127 They're literally talking about a situation where an artist they liked ended up being ableist, and with autism specifically, something they have. Your comment is literally a hate comment lmfao, you've got no room to speak.
@@-mothman- You're only proving my point. Just cause you say "this is hateful" long enough may make other people repeat the same nonsense, but it doesn't mean it's true.
By listening to his music we’re giving him power. We’re providing him a platform to not only put out his music, but his hateful and dangerous ways of thinking. It needs to stop and it starts with us.
I agree that its a problem to boast his music like his platform isnt problematic and actively damaging but i dont know if we should use the "separate art from the artist" at a financial level because i think there is a valid point that art is already separate from them. Overall I agree wholeheartedly with the point but get bugged when the two concepts get mashed together because i think its more conceptual than that, you can say whatever tho im just being petty
There’s a good snoop interview from a few years ago where he talks about the loss of his mother and a strong black woman in Kanye’s life has been his downfall
@@dollinterrupted Tbh y’all need to stop blaming that woman’s death for this stuff he is doing he has probably ALWAYS been this way the antithesis of what his mother gave to him in her life and wanted him to be she was a civil rights activist and he does this let that beautiful woman RIP because he is a disappointment period
Let’s say hypothetically, my pronouns are he/him. And if my pronouns are he/him, that means you should respect that. So, if my pronouns are he/him, and I have a wee wee, does that automatically make me cis? Checkmate conser- LIBERALS I SAID LIBERALS
thank you for talking about all of this and especially talking about the kids. it’s clear that kayne loves his kids, but with the way he acts, it’s also clear that he doesn’t care about them
My go to solution is piracy. If I like art but not the artist I just steal their stuff. Then I'm at least not supporting them financially. But a lot of times I get a bit too bummed out to consume their content. When it came out how Bon Appétit treated its POC employees I didn't really want to watch their videos or read the magazine because every time I watch/read I get reminded of what they did and it kinda ruins the mood. It's like if you eat something that made you sick once you are reminded of that experience and that food will never truly taste the same again.
@@boneappleteeth3127 damn dude i’ve seen your username quite a bit on this video. i’m curious, is it black people or jewish people you have so much hate for? perhaps both? you’re an absolutely putrid human being
thank you so much for talking about this. I feel like sometimes Jewish people can get left behind in activism and so it makes me happy that you're condemning all this shit :')
@@emmersksksksk well it's a little factoid I know about that group since I'm not aloud in to that group though I may have some Jewish DNA being part Sicilian . Looks like my comment got taken down too .
nick i think you do an awesome job of talking about serious topics with an appropriate but not too heavy amount of gravity, making for very captivating deliveries
absolutely fucking love your passion in this video which is vital considering the subject matter. the alt right using the BIPOC communtiy as pawns for their own white facism and antics with other white moderates is as common as it is cruel! i recently have been watching a lot of alt-right playbook videos and your video connects really well with it!! all in all, you really summed up my thoughts on this situation perfectly, it doesn’t matter whatever his intentions are, wearing a “white lives matter” shirt and spreading anti-semitic rhetoric isn’t just disgraceful but truly dangerous and should be called out for what is: white supremacist rhetoric. Luckily, i have never really taken the chance to get into his music nor did i grow up with it so It’s really me easy for me to just not listen to him. However, i know that’s not the case for many people and I especially empathize with the brown and black people who grew up with and once found solice in his music. i imagine it’s a tough situation to be in. as always, I appreciate the nuance you had within this discussion! good luck on your move, I hope it goes as smoothly as possible and I love your cat! :)❤️
Thank you so much for actually talking about this because not a lot of people are talking about it. People claim they want to advocate for equality and advocate for minorities, but it seems that they only care about equality for some people, and some minorities. It feels really isolating and scary that people don’t care about threats on my community.
for example, my older sibling was literally hate crimed when they were in middle school. People would throw pennies at them and tell them to "pick it up you dirty jew", they would also tell them to go back to the ovens. This all happened in front of multiple teachers and the teachers did nothing.
its the same as suggesting a white man do something. what they said had nothing to do with his race. im sure they wouldve said the same thing if a white man did what kanye dod.
Personally, I don’t see separation from the artist’s art as a viable alternative. Art is any form of expressionism from an artist - in other words, an artist is their art. To separate the two, you lose the nuance/meaning/complexity behind a piece. Basically what makes art - art.
I agree on some level with you since there is a lot of art like that but there is also a lot of art where people find their own meaning that is different/separate from what the artist intended. I mean look at literature, everyone whose had a bad English teacher knows that there are some people who see a certain meaning in a piece of art and don’t accept any deviation even though there are reasonable reasons for someone taking a different meaning from a piece of art. In visual art alone certain colors while they might have a mostly global agreed on meaning there are some which are viewed with almost opposite meanings in different places in the world eg white being worn by a bride in the west to show purity etc while in China before western ideas spread white was only worn by a dead person or by someone in mourning. There can also be emotional connections someone has for a piece of art (music, visual, literature) that came long before they knew anything about what the creators views were/are. Like I have been a huge fan of the Harry Potter series since I was a child and have important memories of being read the books by my mom and relating to being hated for parts of my identity. But then I found out about JKRs transphobia. And I am nonbinary. I separated from the fandom for a while but decided that I wouldn’t let the creators awful rhetoric and bigotry ruin my childhood. I can read the books and enjoy them while also confronting the bias and bigotry behind the creation both intentional and not. I have some art that I do not consume after finding out about the bigotry of the creator but it depends for everything.
(I’m Jewish, for reference) I’ve only been able to separate the art from the artist if the art isn’t a form of self portrait. Singers who have been antisemitic are almost impossible for me to separate from their art because their art is their voice, their face, and stories about themselves. It’s easier to separate authors and directors from their art because their connection is obscured and forgotten about, and many people work on movies specifically.
@@rosamy2017 Totally agree. Some forms of art are much harder to separate, songs especially since they are often the most personal and straightforward in their messaging.
i really liked this video you did. i know you've been saying you're struggling to find your thing on the commentary side of youtube, but what i like about your channel is the randomness of your coverage. i love your videos, keep it up!
im jewish and tbh im disgusted, the kind of shit ive had to endure is crazy, u cant just blame his anti semetism on his mental isues because its wrong and it hurts
For me a huge factor with artist/art separation is, are they still profiting off it it? For example, buying minecraft doesn’t put money into notch’s pocket anymore, but for jk Rowling it does. Obviously there more to it than that but that’s a big factor.
idk the art vs artists argument is so strange to me in the age we live in, because there are so many talented artists out there that are kind people, that you can find easier than ever before. I just don't understand why you would knowingly consume art of a horrible person and benefit them when you can find nicer artists out there that also make beautiful art. but I also kinda relate to your case to case basis thing, not for myself, but when others consume certain media, I find certain things easier to brush off than others. I just personally for my own consumption tend not to separate the art from the artist in most cases, when I can easily search and find better artists if horrible things come out about someone. there is no ethical consumption under capitalism but we all still gotta do what we think is morally right and protect ourselves and those around us best we can.
I had a psychotic break and had hallucinations daily for at least a year, and i still knew not to be a racist or anti-Semitic weirdo. You should be good as long as you don't personally believe those horrible things to begin with.
@@mariya_tortilla sometimes its that simple, sometimes its not. Grief can become anger, anger can bleed into places and be directed towards stuff its not supposed to.
I feel like it's just up to every person to decide how if they can/want to separate the art from the artist. 90% of the time I can't separate it, but I know there are those who can (it's also much easier when the person is already dead lol). That being said, I do think it's one thing to just listen to their music but another to be buying/wearing merch of the artist after knowing they're a piece of shit. That's openly promoting them and keeping them in the public conscious, thus keeping them influential and relevant. But that's just me!
yes, definitely different to just listen to their music! i've had a couple favorite artists turn out to be assholes- I'll listen to their old stuff if it's personally meaningful, but won't support anything new or promote them at all. though i've yet to encounter the issue where the artist's actions overshadow/change the meaning of their past work.
@@lizz83 I mean I do believe that once art leaves the artist the meaning to each person is totally personal so you can definitely still enjoy the music! It means something to you that is totally yours 😀
@@fiire_bug I didn’t realize RUclips channels with dozens of thousands of views and comments were colloquial “rooms” to read before laying out an anecdotal experience? Get over yourself
@@valentinescookies. “read the room” is a passive aggressive phrase in itself, it doesn’t mean “please assess the context and situation in which your opinion is being expressed” and even if it was, it’s a RUclips comment section. YOU need to relax
@@evosteff That’s exactly what it means though “to understand the emotions and thoughts of the people present, especially to determine what would be appropriate or inappropriate to say or do” I am relaxed but you don’t seem to be, maybe it would benefit you to take your own advice. In this context I think the shoe fits, considering how vapid and unrelated the original comment is under a video about anti semitism…maybe you felt hurt and triggered because your insipid little comment fell under the same category.
Is that you in the profile pic and channel videos? Cause if it is and you’re calling yourself a “swiftie” this is the funniest shit ever lmao no offense bro you’re based
Adidas is a German company so it would be pretty risky to align themselves with somebody who's openly the anti-semitic. There is a religious belief that all black people are Israelites which I'm guessing is what he was referencing.
That Shapiro impression was really good! Also, I think it's safe to say this is officially Bambi's channel. But... so many of us have musicians we've loved but aren't sure of listening to their music. For me LostProphets was that band that helped me through my teens, and I'll love Rooftops forever, but the singer Ian, we all know what that sicko is.
thank you for speaking about this, most people avoid talking about antisemitism despite it being super prevalent, especially today i currently can't wear a kippah outside because im scared, and every synagogue in my city has been threatened recently
Kanye didn't say anything about controlling. But Jewish people ARE great with finances and they're great with finding and managing talent. That's not exactly a bad thing.
@@chris135x there are many poor/average income Jewish people, Far more than extremely wealthy ones. Especially practicing Jewish people don't tend to have a lot of money probably due to having a lot of children. I am non practicing.
I’ve always struggled with the “separate the art from the artist” because by listening to, consuming, supporting THE ART, you’re directly supporting the artist. Not only from a legitimate standpoint of supporting their projects but also by supplying them with income. I do see the other side of it, but I just feel like it’s no different than buying products from a company that has come out with dangerous rhetoric or “bad things.”
You cannot separate the artist from the art. Even if not directly, you ARE supporting them. Imagine someone listening to lost prophets these days, I’d never speak to that person again.
You can appreciate and enjoy art without supporting the artist. I'm a fan of Mcafferty's work but I listen to RUclips lyric videos instead. That's not supporting the artist its listening to music
You mentioned how his beliefs can affect his daughter because of the color of her skin, which is true, but she's also AFAB, and Kanye is pro-life. That too puts her in danger because that man wants to ban abortion. That's two layers of yikes.
The thing about separating the art from the artist is that some artists (and fans who support their views) don’t separate it themselves and see people who still consume their art as supporting their views. Even if you don’t want to enable someone’s actions, you still are.
i’m not a psychiatrist but i’m diagnosed as bipolar and know a variety of other people diagnosed as bipolar and i feel like he might actually have bipolar schizoaffective disorder given his actions when it comes to thinking everyone is out to get him and believing all these conspiracy theories
@@Miraclelittlepie i know, maybe i said it the wrong way, my english isn't that good. I didn't mean to say that paranoia is exclusive to manic episodes, but it can definitely be a symptom. Bc the person i replied to said his paranoia doesn't fit into bipolar disorder
i feel the same as you about artist x art, when i like an artist because of their personally and that makes me enjoy their music i can’t separate, but if it’s someone that i don’t care if it’s dead or a live i just like the art it’s different
I'm so tired of everything... The hate, wars, crimes, poverty, selfishness, power fights, money, inequalities, xenophobia, pollution, intolerance, negativity everywhere... In the end, we're all the same. Can't we just love each others? Be happy together? Yes, yes, I know...way too complicated... * *Sigh in old jaded person* *
I'm not sure if the majority of people saying "white lives matter" are whatever you think they are. If those people are what you call them, then that can be said for those who say "black lives matter". Because literally nobody at all said "black lives don't matter". This all started because of some socialist.
I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Kanye See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes Now I look around and there's so many Kanyes I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye I even had the pink polo, I thought I was Kanye What if Kanye made a song about Kanye Called "I Miss The Old Kanye Man that would be so Kanye That's all it was Kanye, we still love Kanye And I love you like Kanye loves Kanye
i know i could go watch one of the other many videos on this, but i like your content and the way you present things, so i watched this. good shit nick.
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As usual; mental illness can explain things, but it never excuses things 🤦🏿♀️
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Yes! I have mental health conditions but I can't imagine hurting someone and then blaming it on that. Like, at the end of the day you're an adult and you have to do everything you can to keep yourself and others safe regardless of your diagnosis.
@@Chlo255 that’s cause you’re not rich, famous or surround yourself with sycophants who encourage his madness
Yup!!
@@WTFisthe911 psychopaths
To start, I’m jewish.
I have noticed a huge increase in antisemitism in the past few years. People in my old neighborhood (which is known for being very left leaning) were flying swastikas, a jewish friend of mine had a gun pulled on them for wearing a Star of David, etc.
Upon seeing Kanye’s tweet, I was filled with dread. Every time a person in power says something like this, my people die. I am terrified for the Jewish community right now. I can feel another increase in hate crimes coming, and I am scared.
If you are not Jewish, please stand up for us. Ask the Jewish people in your life if there is anything you can do to support and protect us. We need you right now.
I'm with you My Man 💯 Jews 😎💪
I'm so sorry to hear about your friend and that traumatic experience. This must be horrible for you. I just hope kayne leaves social media because he's just not okat
ik i’m jewish too and my baby sister goes to our temple for preschool and there are always multiple cops there due to the risks of violence it always is a reminder that people want to kill me for simply being jewish
oh my god, I’m so sorry. thank you for bringing this to my attention, though. I know my privilege is showing but I honestly had no idea it was getting this bad
i’m so srry for you and you’re community all of this hatred is so confusing and frustrating. i hope we can all protect each other until we don’t need to anymore.
the post that said “the maga hat gotta be in kanye's closet talking to him like the green goblin”
LMAOOO
Only the goblin which talks to him is orange.
😂
@@kennapersonal nah it’s that beard he gree
@@greenisnotnick Like a mortar/howitzer he was being imprecise. Being critical of Israel and Zionism is not anti-semitism.
As a fan of kanye wests music, and as a bipolar jew the fact that there are ppl defending his antisemitism is INFURIATING
@@yungasbestos9626 "Bipolar Jew" - Berkeley's newest hardcore band!
I think it's impossible to ever fully separate the art from the artist. Speaking as someone who enjoys HP Lovecraft's work and the cosmic horror genre, the racism, ableism, misogyny, and classism of Lovecraft is utterly inescapable in his writing. Artists put their worldview and beliefs into their art, even in small ways. Especially art that is meant to convey a message or emotions. Plus, by supporting the art, you are likely funding the artist or increasing their popularity and influence in some way.
I think the conversation is really less about separating the artist from their art and more about how we as consumers can ethically consume art made by harmful people, as well as what constitutes harm and is that enough to withhold our support. There's no solid answer, and it's up to the individual really.
You "people" always call other people "dangerous" or "harmful" because they say things you hate. Other people believe in things that you don't so you start telling them "you are wrong. And you're racist."
@@boneappleteeth3127 Wait hang on, are you trying to argue that HP "Look up my cats name" Lovecraft *wasn't* racist???? Do you hate leftists so much that you are willing to die on the hill that Lovecraft is a totally cool, not racist dude????
I definitely think it's *theoretically* possible to separate the artist from the art. But ye (maybe even more than Lovecraft) has ALWAYS put a lot of himself into his art, often making it outright autobiographical. The distance between artist and art is variable and nuanced, and a horrible person making art imo doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't consume it (since you can consume most art without paying the artist). I wish people would stop making it all one thing or all the other.
@@ava_marie_v wait, someone tried to actually defend someone who named a cat after a literal slur?
@@hankstranagalwilly6777 Yup! If you can't see their comment, they said something like "you people always call people dangerous or harmful because they don't think like you."
Pretty sure making someone watch a porn video is sexual harassment. That's uncomfortable as fuck and I can only imagine how it feels being forced to watch something like that so you don't piss off the unstable guy across from you, regardless of sexual orientation or anything else. It's sad how far gone Kanye is
Not to mention the bigotry behind it: "You sound like this guy in this porn!" Just because of his accent.
Not to mention how many porns do you gotta be watching to find one which sounds exactly like a guy you know.... then on top of that save it, or remember it so you can show him next time you see him. It's creepy af and funny since he calls himself the ultimate Christian religion man.
@@BabyJesus66 he’s not baptist he’s faptist
I have just commented the same thing and then saw your comment. So glad somebody else also pointed that out.
@@BabyJesus66 he might be manic which usually means very hightened sexual drive
I’m bipolar. Let me tell ya, from so many different meds to therapy for years, I’ve worked my ass off to be “normal” and it is really really upsetting to see Kanye being openly PRAISED for being absolutely unhinged, and doing things that if someone like I did, would get me locked up in a mental hospital.
Who is "praising" Kanye for being bipolar?
If he was a woman he’d be in a conservatorship several years ago
@@boneappleteeth3127 conservatives are out on twitter praising him rn
@@Taradoxxi Conservatives are praising kanye fooooooor......................................Pushing against this "black lives matter" narrative. That's what you meant to say.
@@dollinterrupted Do you talk AND listen to anyone who doesn't think like you?
Kanye has stated in interviews before he loves when people are against him. That’s how he came to his rise to fame, but after establishing himself, he realized most people were now with him, agreeing with him and generally enjoying his music. With people no longer against him, he continues to try and do the most outlandish things possible in order to get people against him once more, though this time it seems he’s doing this while his mental health is really badly deteriorating. Not defending him, just trying to get a sense as to why he says the things he does.
How can you type is with confidence I assume that his mental health is deteriorating? Like how do you know?
No amount of controversy can make me stop listening to Kanye's music cuz it's just too good unless he turns out to be a SA or P3do
@@perplexed1783 Rememeber you can separate artist and person!
@@Sad0220 yes kinda like r Kelly & Ian watkins
@Sad0220 I can do that for normal controversies but I can never support a SA or a p3do no matter who it is sorry
“You can love your kids but not give a shit about them” so fucking true. I deal with that with my kids father. You can love your kids a lot. It doesn’t make you a good father.
The way that he put it was perfect, especially in reference to Kanye. In the end, we don't know what goes on in celebrities lives (not really) but as someone who has watched KUWTK for a long time, you can see that "you can love your kids, but not give a shit about them" is honestly so true. Poor kids, hopefully Kanye is better behind the cameras and what not, but either way the kids deserve a loving father that would put them first not some twitter fame.
abusive parents can love their kids and still continue to be abusive and bad parents
This is called a dialectic. Its being able to hold two opposing ideas the “and” in that sentence is what makes it
This always makes me so mad after watching him come to tears after talking to a black women on an interview, he said he doesn’t want his people to feel like he’s against them but then turns around and does racist things to amp up an upcoming project
and trashing his moms like you wouldn't believe. he names his album Donda but then turns around and trash talks her to Tucker effing Carlson
@Chormerly Fucks never that serious lol just a let down but 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@@MurfyMae bc it’s only a thing bc Black Lives Matter was created lmao literally was just made to combat blm which is odd bc why do u disagree? All lives matter I can almost see the argument behind it
@@MurfyMae Did you watch the video? Nick explains it pretty well.
@@MurfyMae watch the video. This has been explained ad nauseum ever since "black lives matter" became a slogan. Think about it for a second. If someone said "ALL diseases suck!" every time some cancer survivor said "Cancer sucks" would you not understand why people have a problem with it?
In the discussion of separating the art from the artist, I think we will never truly be able to separate art effectively, especially when they are just as public as their music like kanye.
What about his music that discusses issues going on the black community? Just because he’s obviously going through a severe mental health crisis means we have to disregard the fact that his musical career was started talking about issues like the crack epidemic and police brutality? Get a grip
@@skateboard446 I didn't say any of that, I said he and his music are intertwined and it's up to you to decide to listen. I think we agree more than you think, his music was started talking about those issues and it can't be separated from that either
The more vile controversy Kanye gets in the better his music becomes so idc
@@skateboard446 did you reply to the wrong comment? Literally no one said that here
@@queer-ios3155 fair enough
bro seeing ppl like kanye makes me wish that deplatforming and “cancelling” actually worked. this man needs to not being on social media bc its harmful to himself and everyone who reads the horrible shit he spouts.
Yeah he is above censorship
I love when people like you just throw around the word “harmful” to try to fit your argument. Words aren’t harmful. You’re actually a bot
I mean hasn’t he already been banned from Instagram/Facebook and twitter?
@@masonsobel366 its kinda unbelievable to say words aren't harmful. Hitler literally got an entire country to turn against a whole race through speeches. Trump incited a literal terrorist attack on the White House through tweets and rallies. Words are the most powerful thing in a society.
@@masonsobel366 words are harmful dipshit
Being a Kanye fan is so hard sometimes. The music is great ofc, but his persona up until the yeezus era meant so much to me and my development as a person. I literally wouldn’t be the person I am without this influence. But the further he goes down this right wing rabbit hole the more I feel hurt by Kanye. Everything that he was and meant to so many people he actively undermines by being the exact thing that he used to stand against. The positive side his legacy is being erased by everything he’s done since the trump era (if we’re being honest this started around the rollout of yeezus). He is now everything that he stood against during the first half of his career and is so far gone that I don’t know what to do
This is too relatable, He is too influential in my life to the point that I wouldn't be alive right now writing this comment if it wasn't for his music but it's getting extremely hard defending his shenanigans Everytime
I tried to pray that this is all a long con and he did it on purpose but tbh it's not looking too bright..
His first album was his best work anything else has been him tripping on acid. Few years later he’s a self proclaimed genius. C’mon now. He’s been mentally ill for decades
His music sucks balls.
Lmao you don’t have to form a parasocial relationship with him and agree with his political views to be a fan. You could just be a normal person and enjoy the music and stay off twitter
kanye sure is a guy that exists
what a little creature fr
he really is a person isn't he
One of the greatest artists to exist*
I would say he definitely
is
definitely one of the people of all time
thank you for talking about this! nice to see a big commentary channel like you actually addressing issues like anti-semitism! as a jewish fan, i really appreciate it
Jews Rock 🔥 A lot of the hatred is born out of massive and I mean masssssive Jealousy 😎😉
Conye is a sick person indeed.
Oi vey he obeys
when I read this comment i thought that you were saying that you are a fan of jewish people and I was like uh okay, and then i realized im dumb
@@devhope141 crap that’s what I thought too
Literally everyone is talking about this you just have a parasocial relationship with a leftist who makes you feel welcomed. It’s cute. But not genuine.
On the conversation of separating the art from the artist, a case that just came out today comes to mind. After listening to Rex Orange County for years, it is extremely hard to do so today knowing he has 6 pending sexual assault charges. I related and cried many nights to his music, but as a victim of SA myself it is hard to know that I'm financially supporting another predator when listening. I feel like this discussion comes down to what you are comfortable with giving your co-sign to. The art and the artist can only be separated so much especially in cases where their life and music are tied together very closely, such as Kanye.
EXACTLY saying you can separate are from the artist is such a privileged thing to say and in some situations ignorant as well
I get second hand embarrassment when people say to separate the art from the artist cuz if you think about it your still supporting them every time you stream their music or buy merch that’s their income that your contributing to. Kayne has done and said some out of pocket shit and people still support him on the DL and it sucks cuz what point are we trying to prove to people who already hate said artist or other artists in general. It gives others the green light
“We can do some dirty shit and get away with it guys let’s go” like huh and I didn’t know that about Rex orange county when did that happen 😭😭
not me finding out via this comment,,,goddamn
Bro what
Love how this important adidas meeting takes place in an empty grey room where everybody is sitting in tiny wooden stools
kanye kidnapped them obviously
@@HaileyRMay like the children of his mind
its a vibe honestly
And he forces them to watch p*rn. Looks like a human tr*fficking situation to me more than a business meeting.
@@ibuprofen-noodles a terrible vibe
As a Jewish person, I really appreciate this video 🫶
We sticking together. No worries 😎💪 Cool Video though.
Conye a sick man for sure....Great musician. 💩 person.
Bruh to hear a black man say that black people chose to be slaves, chose to be held against their will, tortured, lnyched, raped, killed is soooo messed up, it’s all conditioning. But how can he look at his daughters skin and think that the pain and suffering behind that was “chosen “
I don't think he ever said that, he probably meant that black people should move on from the slave mindset
@@balls2442 “400 years? That’s sounds like a choice” -Kanye
Well 18 of 20 trans Atlantic slave running out of Newport were Jewish owned and run . It was Jews that was the biggest player in the slave trade . Monsanto was one of the big players and now the Monsanto family is the biggest corporations in GMOs . Read the book white gold . Arabs and Jews were the slave traders in Europeans before and during the trans Atlantic slave trade .
Now Europeans are the ones that get scapegoated for it all . I'm not saying Europeans are innocent of this crime . They had their part in it . But when over 70 % of all slave owners in America was Jewish the scales are tipped .
And to leave a quote from the old testament . The Lord detests dishonest scales, but accurate weights find favor with him” (Proverbs 11:1).
@@MashalaT I just mentioned that due to the conditioning of the Zionist media and Hollywood of scapegoating and creating more victims . Kayne possibly knows this for himself . Still choosing to be slaves by what you are told to believe to this day keeping you in a mindset by the ones that first enslaved you.
You want to know who rules over you ? It's the ones you can't speak truth about .
Really enjoyed seeing you take a more serious tone and lay out your opinions Nick
why thank you i appreciate you
@@greenisnotnick woah it's nick from only 37 seconds ago that's cray cray
@@birbhay woah its only n1rbhay 555 from 3 minutes ago
@@jamesbw2 woah it’s JAMES from only 33 seconds ago
@@tehe2434 woah it’s tehe from only 3 minutes ago
thank you for speaking on antisemitism. it rarely ever gets talked about and it is so disheartening to see jewish discrimination and hate going continuously unnoticed by those who speak up for other marginalized communities. this is very scary cause kanye has more followers than there are jewish people on the entire earth.
I'm bipolar too. I'm Jewish. It's honestly scary to see shit like this. Being bipolar doesn't cause you to suddenly become antisemitic. That's from him. I used to listen to his music, but I can't separate him from what he puts out like this. I won't financially contribute to his success when it also means he has the platform to spew this stuff. The best thing for Kanye would be a reality check. How can he claim to be Christian, and then spread hate? For someone so big on God's grace, he sure is being hateful and judgmental.
Saying "Jewish people manage big parts of society" is not racist. That really what people are saying. How is it "antisemitic" to say "Jewish people are great with finances"? Or "Jewish people really know great talent and entertainment". How is that "antisemitic"?
@@chris135x because that's the kind of false rhetoric that lead to the Holocaust my dude
@@chris135x Ok you're so painfully obviously a troll and I've seen you in several comment sections by now. You KNOW that isn't just what people are saying. You are completely aware that people are insinuating that Jewish people control the world, and that that is a negative thing. Don't play dumb.
@@malchickoleander How exactly is it bad to say "Jewish people know how to manage entertainment and finances"? Hmm, kid? How is it wrong or bad to say that?
kanye just breaks my brain at this point
The sheer lack of self awareness when he says people only pay attention to Lizzo because of how "unhealthy" she is. Like bro, you think anyone would be looking your way if you stayed on your meds. >.>
The sheer lack of self awareness YOU leftist have is TOO DAMN MUCH!!!
Yes they would. All of Ye's fans are hoping he gets the help he needs and he's talented outside of that.
@@QTpatootie95 he wouldn't be as popular as is if it weren't for the controversies
@@megand12345 famous no popular yes. People would like him better if he got help he'd still be the billionaire multi talented artist he just would also be respectable
I personally love her music lol. Id still love her even if she was a healthy weight. Her voice and personality is overall just nice to me. And i think she has alot of energy on stage.
Kanye saying my life matters more to him than the lives of his own children just because of my skin color makes me sick
he never said that or meant that, he even made a follow up post to this. he has expressed that all lives no matter the color of skin hold the same value, and that the shirt was poetry expressing how society operates with the media today. I am literally a left-leaning democrat too but I can at least see the message he is trying to get across. too many people try to draw conclusions that are completely wrong from what he is actually trying to say or completely misinterpret him.
Learn to except a compliment without being insulted !
@@StarCountry maybe he wouldn't be misinterpreted if he didn't 1. have a precedent of being chummy with white supremacists like Trump and Carlson and 2. didn't use a phrase that has been co-opted by the KKK for several years now?
@@paleface8 that's...not what a compliment is supposed to be??? i am genuinely baffled at THIS being your conclusion to be drawn???
@@paleface8 you're totally right. Except it, don't accept it
wayyyyy too many people are defending him right now. like yeah im a huge fan of his music but damn he cant keep doing this
Just admit you hate anyone who is against the BS leftist "message".
Exactly. He gets away with sooo much.
I just wish people weren't so impressionable. Like this guy said, I don't care what Kanye says, it's just that now we have to worry about a resurgence of hate speech if people are inspired by him.
If you really enjoy a problematic musician’s music and it helps you go through your life and you really cant live without it, lyric videos can be a good way to not give them money, but still enjoy the art ^^
Clever
Don't they get copyrighted and all revenue goes to the artist anyway? I think uploads on SoundCloud don't give the artist any money though if you wanted to try that
Pirate Bay
@@clownRatcity depends, often they aren't monetized at all, so they don't get claimed, they just don't make any money (because the channel uploading them doesn't monetize them)
My mother is a mixed coloured woman , and the amount of discrimination she is receiving is disgusting , to the point I’m worried about her safety , all of this does not help! She can’t leave the house at this point without certain discriminative comments towards her . I send all my love and support to all the people suffering the same or worse ! Please be safe !
She's a what
Kanye West manipulates. He manipulates Kim Kardashian (who I have no love for, but does not deserve the treatment she is getting), he manipulates the public.
I’m really glad and grateful to hear someone who stands up against anti-semitism where most stay silent. As a Jew I find myself sometimes disappointed in people who let things like what Kanye said slide but will say something about other subjects or causes in general when I’ve also supported them. thank you for using ur voice against things which incite hate among people!
This whole situation really reminds me of J. K. Rowling and her transphobic comments/media that has come out in recent years. And how people are having a hard time reading her Harry Potter series or looking back on their nostalgia of enjoying Harry Potter with a tainted view. It really shows that some of the worst people can make good art but it’s always complicated when it comes to separating the art and the person.
its very true how she tainted her series, i was never a harry potter fan but tried getting into it, all i could think about was how rowling is a transphobe (and thus i couldn't enjoy the first book)
The conversation you brought up at the end was interesting to ponder. The actions of an artist can really change the context in my experience.
I'm autistic and I used to adore Sia and her music. I even spent a week making an animation inspired by one of her songs. But after seeing the way she talks about autistic people and going ahead and working with Autism Speaks, a known hate group, I feel disgust every time I hear one of her songs on the radio.
I cannot separate the art and the artist in that situation.
You're comment was invalid the moment you call anything a "hate group". You just wanna be hateful, kid.
@@boneappleteeth3127 Nope. Look into Autism Speaks. They write propoganda demonizing autistic people, like myself. Your comment is invalid because you're ignorant.
@@boneappleteeth3127 They're literally talking about a situation where an artist they liked ended up being ableist, and with autism specifically, something they have. Your comment is literally a hate comment lmfao, you've got no room to speak.
@@-mothman- You're only proving my point. Just cause you say "this is hateful" long enough may make other people repeat the same nonsense, but it doesn't mean it's true.
@@boneappleteeth3127 autism speaks is as good a cause for autism as PETA is for animal rights
By listening to his music we’re giving him power. We’re providing him a platform to not only put out his music, but his hateful and dangerous ways of thinking. It needs to stop and it starts with us.
This. 100% this
One person that stops listening to his music is not gonna make him go bankrupt lol
You can't separate the art from the artist. We put our all into our art. Supporting his music is still supporting Kanye
Facts
I agree that its a problem to boast his music like his platform isnt problematic and actively damaging but i dont know if we should use the "separate art from the artist" at a financial level because i think there is a valid point that art is already separate from them. Overall I agree wholeheartedly with the point but get bugged when the two concepts get mashed together because i think its more conceptual than that, you can say whatever tho im just being petty
I automatically never separate the art and artist. If the artist does wrong I usually ignore their art
Everytime I see him do things like this I just think “Donda wouldn’t approve” and it makes me sad for him
There’s a good snoop interview from a few years ago where he talks about the loss of his mother and a strong black woman in Kanye’s life has been his downfall
@@dollinterrupted Tbh y’all need to stop blaming that woman’s death for this stuff he is doing he has probably ALWAYS been this way the antithesis of what his mother gave to him in her life and wanted him to be she was a civil rights activist and he does this let that beautiful woman RIP because he is a disappointment period
I like to put nicks videos in x1.75 speed and pretend hes ben shaphiro turning leftist
i love this
Omg ur right 😩
omgggg
Hahahahahaahah
Let’s say hypothetically, my pronouns are he/him. And if my pronouns are he/him, that means you should respect that. So, if my pronouns are he/him, and I have a wee wee, does that automatically make me cis? Checkmate conser- LIBERALS I SAID LIBERALS
thank you for talking about all of this and especially talking about the kids. it’s clear that kayne loves his kids, but with the way he acts, it’s also clear that he doesn’t care about them
My go to solution is piracy. If I like art but not the artist I just steal their stuff. Then I'm at least not supporting them financially.
But a lot of times I get a bit too bummed out to consume their content. When it came out how Bon Appétit treated its POC employees I didn't really want to watch their videos or read the magazine because every time I watch/read I get reminded of what they did and it kinda ruins the mood. It's like if you eat something that made you sick once you are reminded of that experience and that food will never truly taste the same again.
Just admit you're 100% petty. "One bad experience is enough for me to say it's bad forever and for everyone hurhur".
@@boneappleteeth3127 damn dude i’ve seen your username quite a bit on this video. i’m curious, is it black people or jewish people you have so much hate for? perhaps both? you’re an absolutely putrid human being
@@boneappleteeth3127brain dead ass comment
@@xavi1298 Nah. That applies to you.
@@boneappleteeth3127 "I know you are but what am I" that's how you sound LMAO
i think you excel at this more serious approach nick, this was great.
aw thank you so so much!!! appreciate you
I like when you get into serious topics like this! I enjoy hearing your opinions you always find the right thing to say! It’s refreshing.
thank you so much for talking about this. I feel like sometimes Jewish people can get left behind in activism and so it makes me happy that you're condemning all this shit :')
@@denmc7028 lmao kosher meth... thanks for the laugh omegalul
@@emmersksksksk well it's a little factoid I know about that group since I'm not aloud in to that group though I may have some Jewish DNA being part Sicilian .
Looks like my comment got taken down too .
@@denmc7028 aww i guess that's what happens when you spew antisemitic conspiracy theories :'((
@@denmc7028 LMAOOO get some help my guy
@@emmersksksksk I'm good I help myself . The chabad center will probably help you out depending on how Jewish you are .
u are so well spoken. literally took the words right out of my mouth.
this man just keeps finding ways to out-'the worst' himself
He's "the worst" because YOU leftists hate ANYONE who doesn't agree with your ignorant BS!!! Congrats, kiddo!
Companies and people who continue to support Kanye deserve the embarrassment his antics cause
I heard that Kanye was into the black Israelite stuff but I didn't know he was going public with it like this
Damn, Nick went in on this episode!!! 🤌🏾🤌🏿🤌🏽
appreciate you!!
@@greenisnotnick appreciate you too nick.
Loved the Bill Gates call out
I swear if any other singer acted the way he does, they’d be irrelevant now. Why is he so untouchable
Kanye breaks my heart every time…
nick i think you do an awesome job of talking about serious topics with an appropriate but not too heavy amount of gravity, making for very captivating deliveries
Nick is the least informed individual. He needs to go listen to more sides so he's not so ignorant.
Glad you're covering this
You commentaries are always appreciated
Edit: congrats! Hope the move isn't too bad of an experience for you
Nick's commentaries are appreciated......By other leftists.....Not by anyone else.
@@boneappleteeth3127 ok? I don’t think conservatives appreciated marx
Our regularly scheduled Nick is not green Kanye update.
absolutely fucking love your passion in this video which is vital considering the subject matter.
the alt right using the BIPOC communtiy as pawns for their own white facism and antics with other white moderates is as common as it is cruel! i recently have been watching a lot of alt-right playbook videos and your video connects really well with it!!
all in all, you really summed up my thoughts on this situation perfectly, it doesn’t matter whatever his intentions are, wearing a “white lives matter” shirt and spreading anti-semitic rhetoric isn’t just disgraceful but truly dangerous and should be called out for what is: white supremacist rhetoric.
Luckily, i have never really taken the chance to get into his music nor did i grow up with it so It’s really me easy for me to just not listen to him. However, i know that’s not the case for many people and I especially empathize with the brown and black people who grew up with and once found solice in his music. i imagine it’s a tough situation to be in.
as always, I appreciate the nuance you had within this discussion!
good luck on your move, I hope it goes as smoothly as possible and I love your cat! :)❤️
Kid. Be quiet. Everything you said here is pure ignorance and bigotry.
Kanye west is the type of guy u ask for a ham sandwich then blames you for the Holocaust or something
Thank you so much for actually talking about this because not a lot of people are talking about it. People claim they want to advocate for equality and advocate for minorities, but it seems that they only care about equality for some people, and some minorities. It feels really isolating and scary that people don’t care about threats on my community.
for example, my older sibling was literally hate crimed when they were in middle school. People would throw pennies at them and tell them to "pick it up you dirty jew", they would also tell them to go back to the ovens. This all happened in front of multiple teachers and the teachers did nothing.
Ironically, that fits for the left leaning people.
Shoutout to 10/10! 🎉
I thought this video was great, I like it when you get to express your thoughts and opinions on more serious topics.
aw thank you so so much
Honestly I hope he gets some kind of help and stops this weird shit.
Cause.........You DON'T agree with what a BLACK man does? You NEED to tell a BLACK man how to live HIS life?
its the same as suggesting a white man do something. what they said had nothing to do with his race. im sure they wouldve said the same thing if a white man did what kanye dod.
Hey, Yasyas. Do you ever THINK before speaking or do you just speak and never think?
Don't worry the Chris guy is just spamming his emotions in the comments rn. 😂
@@chris135x you again? troll
Personally, I don’t see separation from the artist’s art as a viable alternative. Art is any form of expressionism from an artist - in other words, an artist is their art. To separate the two, you lose the nuance/meaning/complexity behind a piece. Basically what makes art - art.
I agree on some level with you since there is a lot of art like that but there is also a lot of art where people find their own meaning that is different/separate from what the artist intended. I mean look at literature, everyone whose had a bad English teacher knows that there are some people who see a certain meaning in a piece of art and don’t accept any deviation even though there are reasonable reasons for someone taking a different meaning from a piece of art. In visual art alone certain colors while they might have a mostly global agreed on meaning there are some which are viewed with almost opposite meanings in different places in the world eg white being worn by a bride in the west to show purity etc while in China before western ideas spread white was only worn by a dead person or by someone in mourning. There can also be emotional connections someone has for a piece of art (music, visual, literature) that came long before they knew anything about what the creators views were/are. Like I have been a huge fan of the Harry Potter series since I was a child and have important memories of being read the books by my mom and relating to being hated for parts of my identity. But then I found out about JKRs transphobia. And I am nonbinary. I separated from the fandom for a while but decided that I wouldn’t let the creators awful rhetoric and bigotry ruin my childhood. I can read the books and enjoy them while also confronting the bias and bigotry behind the creation both intentional and not. I have some art that I do not consume after finding out about the bigotry of the creator but it depends for everything.
(I’m Jewish, for reference) I’ve only been able to separate the art from the artist if the art isn’t a form of self portrait. Singers who have been antisemitic are almost impossible for me to separate from their art because their art is their voice, their face, and stories about themselves. It’s easier to separate authors and directors from their art because their connection is obscured and forgotten about, and many people work on movies specifically.
@@rosamy2017 Totally agree. Some forms of art are much harder to separate, songs especially since they are often the most personal and straightforward in their messaging.
i really liked this video you did. i know you've been saying you're struggling to find your thing on the commentary side of youtube, but what i like about your channel is the randomness of your coverage. i love your videos, keep it up!
im jewish and tbh im disgusted, the kind of shit ive had to endure is crazy, u cant just blame his anti semetism on his mental isues because its wrong and it hurts
i love the way you formed this and adressed everything with evidence and solid points
I honestly just think Kanye is the human form and embodiment of ego.
Lol I swear to god ever since he said ‘slavery was a choice’ I can’t think of anything else every time I see his face
For me a huge factor with artist/art separation is, are they still profiting off it it? For example, buying minecraft doesn’t put money into notch’s pocket anymore, but for jk Rowling it does. Obviously there more to it than that but that’s a big factor.
Fuck you did that Ben voice way too well Nick. I'm disturbed yet amused
Kanye is literally murdering my brain everyday he exists 😂
its funny though because Candace Owen's in Ben Shapiro's token black friend but little does he know that he's the token Jewish friend
idk the art vs artists argument is so strange to me in the age we live in, because there are so many talented artists out there that are kind people, that you can find easier than ever before. I just don't understand why you would knowingly consume art of a horrible person and benefit them when you can find nicer artists out there that also make beautiful art. but I also kinda relate to your case to case basis thing, not for myself, but when others consume certain media, I find certain things easier to brush off than others. I just personally for my own consumption tend not to separate the art from the artist in most cases, when I can easily search and find better artists if horrible things come out about someone. there is no ethical consumption under capitalism but we all still gotta do what we think is morally right and protect ourselves and those around us best we can.
Lowkey scared that the death of my mother will also break my mental psyche and I become a total monster.
Therapy works wonders for grief
@@mightymeatymech doesn't do shit for depression though
I had a psychotic break and had hallucinations daily for at least a year, and i still knew not to be a racist or anti-Semitic weirdo. You should be good as long as you don't personally believe those horrible things to begin with.
Have a medical support system in place beforehand
@@mariya_tortilla sometimes its that simple, sometimes its not. Grief can become anger, anger can bleed into places and be directed towards stuff its not supposed to.
I feel like it's just up to every person to decide how if they can/want to separate the art from the artist. 90% of the time I can't separate it, but I know there are those who can (it's also much easier when the person is already dead lol).
That being said, I do think it's one thing to just listen to their music but another to be buying/wearing merch of the artist after knowing they're a piece of shit. That's openly promoting them and keeping them in the public conscious, thus keeping them influential and relevant.
But that's just me!
yes, definitely different to just listen to their music! i've had a couple favorite artists turn out to be assholes- I'll listen to their old stuff if it's personally meaningful, but won't support anything new or promote them at all. though i've yet to encounter the issue where the artist's actions overshadow/change the meaning of their past work.
@@lizz83 I mean I do believe that once art leaves the artist the meaning to each person is totally personal so you can definitely still enjoy the music! It means something to you that is totally yours 😀
The way I clicked on this so fast just cause I read Kanye 💀
I clicked so fast cause it's Nick crying about something. Again.
@@chris135x crying? I don’t think you know what that is, try it
@@Iyannah15 I do know what that is. Nicole cries and complains all the time.
@UC9eP6LsKL3PEuS9hxKJhI8Q I know the meaning of what I saw. YOU just don't LIKE what I say, kiddo.
@@chris135x omg u really got him by calling him nicole 😂😂 guys woman name and nick boy !! funny guy chris 😂
you got it out on 10/10 don’t worry buddy
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Petition for Nick to get a nose piercing
What’s up with girls wanting every single guy to have a piercing on one nostril? Every basic girl in Oregon asks dudes to get these
Read the room
@@fiire_bug I didn’t realize RUclips channels with dozens of thousands of views and comments were colloquial “rooms” to read before laying out an anecdotal experience? Get over yourself
@@valentinescookies. “read the room” is a passive aggressive phrase in itself, it doesn’t mean “please assess the context and situation in which your opinion is being expressed” and even if it was, it’s a RUclips comment section. YOU need to relax
@@evosteff That’s exactly what it means though “to understand the emotions and thoughts of the people present, especially to determine what would be appropriate or inappropriate to say or do”
I am relaxed but you don’t seem to be, maybe it would benefit you to take your own advice. In this context I think the shoe fits, considering how vapid and unrelated the original comment is under a video about anti semitism…maybe you felt hurt and triggered because your insipid little comment fell under the same category.
As a swiftie, there’s always been a reason to hate him. He’s done so much to hurt people I genuinely can’t fathom why people would support that.
Is that you in the profile pic and channel videos? Cause if it is and you’re calling yourself a “swiftie” this is the funniest shit ever lmao no offense bro you’re based
the way yall think that irrelevant shit should even be brought up when we’re talking about actual hate crimes against jewish people is so funny
im so extremely worried about the ramifications this will have, especially with how rabid kanye's fans (used to be?) are
Lol his white fans are going craaaaazzyyyy
as someone who suffers from bipolar disorder just like kanye, I can confirm Antisemitism and racism are not a side effect of our mental illness
The way you describe things is impeccable
Nicks videos are the only way I know that today is Monday
Adidas is a German company so it would be pretty risky to align themselves with somebody who's openly the anti-semitic. There is a religious belief that all black people are Israelites which I'm guessing is what he was referencing.
Good point about how ethical consequentialism is more meaningful than intent, especially in this situation!
That Shapiro impression was really good! Also, I think it's safe to say this is officially Bambi's channel. But... so many of us have musicians we've loved but aren't sure of listening to their music. For me LostProphets was that band that helped me through my teens, and I'll love Rooftops forever, but the singer Ian, we all know what that sicko is.
thank you for speaking about this, most people avoid talking about antisemitism despite it being super prevalent, especially today
i currently can't wear a kippah outside because im scared, and every synagogue in my city has been threatened recently
nick i was patiently waiting for you to release a video
Thanks for breaking this issue down in such a concise and insightful way. You use your platform well, young padawan
As a Jewish person I can confirm that I am controlling the whole world I personally made you upload this video.
Kanye didn't say anything about controlling. But Jewish people ARE great with finances and they're great with finding and managing talent. That's not exactly a bad thing.
@@chris135x there are many poor/average income Jewish people, Far more than extremely wealthy ones. Especially practicing Jewish people don't tend to have a lot of money probably due to having a lot of children. I am non practicing.
@@LK-my3wq Jewish people are still known to know how to manage finances and entertainment. That's not exactly about control over someone or something.
I’ve always struggled with the “separate the art from the artist” because by listening to, consuming, supporting THE ART, you’re directly supporting the artist. Not only from a legitimate standpoint of supporting their projects but also by supplying them with income. I do see the other side of it, but I just feel like it’s no different than buying products from a company that has come out with dangerous rhetoric or “bad things.”
Man, you leftist are true NPCs. You just repeat the same things because other people do.
You cannot separate the artist from the art. Even if not directly, you ARE supporting them. Imagine someone listening to lost prophets these days, I’d never speak to that person again.
You can appreciate and enjoy art without supporting the artist. I'm a fan of Mcafferty's work but I listen to RUclips lyric videos instead. That's not supporting the artist its listening to music
Lost Prophets? The band that had a PEEDOH singer???? HOW are you LEGIT comparing Kanye to THAT???? FFS kid! GTFO!!!
I really appreciate you talking about this.
...Your shirt tho 👍🏾
You mentioned how his beliefs can affect his daughter because of the color of her skin, which is true, but she's also AFAB, and Kanye is pro-life. That too puts her in danger because that man wants to ban abortion. That's two layers of yikes.
Everything you said is fragile nonsense.
The thing about separating the art from the artist is that some artists (and fans who support their views) don’t separate it themselves and see people who still consume their art as supporting their views. Even if you don’t want to enable someone’s actions, you still are.
it's important to remember that mental illness does not cause bigotry
Another reminder that bigotry is something the left loves to use.
i’m not a psychiatrist but i’m diagnosed as bipolar and know a variety of other people diagnosed as bipolar and i feel like he might actually have bipolar schizoaffective disorder given his actions when it comes to thinking everyone is out to get him and believing all these conspiracy theories
Aren't those kind of paranoid ideas typical for a manic phase?
I remember a few years ago it was said that he suffered from hallucinations and paranoia so it’s a possibility
@@dominikweber4305 Paranoia is not exclusive to manic episodes
@@dominikweber4305 paranoia is present in other illnesses such as non-schizophrenic psychosis as well.
@@Miraclelittlepie i know, maybe i said it the wrong way, my english isn't that good. I didn't mean to say that paranoia is exclusive to manic episodes, but it can definitely be a symptom. Bc the person i replied to said his paranoia doesn't fit into bipolar disorder
I was not looking at the screen and genuinely thought you cut to a clip of ben for a sec
i feel the same as you about artist x art, when i like an artist because of their personally and that makes me enjoy their music i can’t separate, but if it’s someone that i don’t care if it’s dead or a live i just like the art it’s different
i like this What Are You Doing series
I'm so tired of everything...
The hate, wars, crimes, poverty, selfishness, power fights, money, inequalities, xenophobia, pollution, intolerance, negativity everywhere...
In the end, we're all the same. Can't we just love each others? Be happy together?
Yes, yes, I know...way too complicated...
* *Sigh in old jaded person* *
I'm not sure if the majority of people saying "white lives matter" are whatever you think they are. If those people are what you call them, then that can be said for those who say "black lives matter". Because literally nobody at all said "black lives don't matter". This all started because of some socialist.
this video dropped literally the second i got out of work so that was a nice surprise
Unrelated but your shirt unlocked a hidden memory for me bc my dad used to have a mug with that exact design on it lmaoo
I miss the old Kanye, straight from the 'Go Kanye
Chop up the soul Kanye, set on his goals Kanye
I hate the new Kanye, the bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye, spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye, chop up the beats Kanye
I gotta to say at that time I'd like to meet Kanye
See I invented Kanye, it wasn't any Kanyes
Now I look around and there's so many Kanyes
I used to love Kanye, I used to love Kanye
I even had the pink polo, I thought I was Kanye
What if Kanye made a song about Kanye
Called "I Miss The Old Kanye
Man that would be so Kanye
That's all it was Kanye, we still love Kanye
And I love you like Kanye loves Kanye
i know i could go watch one of the other many videos on this, but i like your content and the way you present things, so i watched this. good shit nick.
:) this made me happy