Toyota TUNDRA vs Nissan TITAN - This is the one I'd buy and why

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @firstjohn3123
    @firstjohn3123 3 года назад +89

    The height of the Titan grill logo area on the hood is a functional aspect to protect the front from stone chips...and the Titan seats are the best in class. Period. A seriously underrated truck.

  • @tomln1972
    @tomln1972 3 года назад +78

    Hahahahah….My neighbor’08 5.7l tundra needed timing chain stuff fixed at 175,000 miles….my 08 5.6 Titan needed nothing yet at 210,000 miles, except regular oil and fluids change…I asked him, do you still buy buy Tundra again…he said “yes” because people say Tundra is better than Titan…I just smiled and told him “ my Titan still running good at 210,000 miles and does not need any repair yet”…

    • @JDMFR3AK
      @JDMFR3AK 2 года назад +1

      My friends Tundra had a rattle at 165k. He sold it but it could of been the tensioners.

    • @jonathansermons3144
      @jonathansermons3144 2 года назад +12

      I bought a 2013 Titan in 2014 with almost 30,000 miles. 6 inch lift and 35 immediately.. Fast forward 8 yrs later, 215,000 miles and still a beast. Most reliable vehicle I've ever owned

    • @jayk.8192
      @jayk.8192 2 года назад +2

      Cool story.

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 2 года назад +8

      @@Pantelifts10 timing belts get replaced. Not timing chains. Timing chains are lifelong items.

    • @roycemartin9068
      @roycemartin9068 2 года назад +6

      Greekcanadianpan timing CHAINS should last the life of the engine. Look up timing belts vs timing chains. I think you should educate yourself more before making statements that you don’t know what you’re talking about

  • @chiemekaa
    @chiemekaa 3 года назад +79

    All I want from Nissan is a Warrior.

    • @lauperleo
      @lauperleo 3 года назад +2

      Who doesnt?!! 😂

    • @mrfish3971
      @mrfish3971 3 года назад +1

      I been waiting forever for the warrior to come out so I could get a new truck. I have a 08 Titan that still runs like a champ

    • @alexgarcia3900
      @alexgarcia3900 3 года назад

      Well they're most definitely not going to make it, if anything it's going out of production. They already pulled it out from Canada because no one is buying them. The new titan has been a massive fail. They only sold 22k in 2021. The ridgeline sold 37k for 2021. You know something is wrong when the ridgeline is outselling any truck.

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 3 года назад +1

      @@alexgarcia3900 That is precisely why they're failing. The Titan is competent but without any newer products to distinguish itself from the rest of the class, they're doomed. The Warrior (which actually came out before Ram introduced the Rebel) should have been the way to go, rather they foolishly and catastrophically chose XD.

    • @alexgarcia3900
      @alexgarcia3900 3 года назад

      @@chiemekaa if you read you comment again you said they needed to distinguish themselves and the xd was actually that. Once something fails it's almost impossible to turn it around. Hard to build a warrior and invest all this time and money when they're not even making a profit on the titan. Those resources are going elsewhere

  • @Thizlamic
    @Thizlamic 3 года назад +32

    That Titan is MONEY. The rear end is a throw back to the old 1st GEN Hard Body's and Pathfinders with the black treatment on the tailgate. My 88 Pathfinder 4x4 was a BEAST out the box if the Titan goes back to that level of quality...TAKE MY MONEY.

    • @aerisd.1155
      @aerisd.1155 3 года назад +9

      They are quickly regaining their quality now that the renault ceo is out of the picture. I had a first gen titan and loved that beast. Would absolutely buy a Nissan over any other brand.

  • @jiml8594
    @jiml8594 3 года назад +16

    My 2004 Titan still runs like a dream.

  • @xxMayorWestxx
    @xxMayorWestxx Год назад +6

    Just bought a 2023 Nissan Titan Platinum Reserve. So far I love it!

  • @lauperleo
    @lauperleo 3 года назад +51

    No matter what others say, I still love my Titan under anything, and it hasn't died on me.

    • @PeterGriffer247
      @PeterGriffer247 3 года назад

      You mean "Haven't died on you yet!" Why I ditch the titan for the tundra....REALIABLITY.

    • @johnnylopez6825
      @johnnylopez6825 3 года назад +1

      I loved my 04 titan, w 175k and miss that truck, cats caused pre mature engine damage. Had to get rid of ... I may purchase a new taco trd

    • @jgarcenila1982
      @jgarcenila1982 3 года назад +2

      @@PeterGriffer247 7 year bumper to bumper warranty or 150k miles 🤔

    • @jimmymiller4166
      @jimmymiller4166 3 года назад

      Same on my 2nd one myself Love it

    • @nolebucnaround8350
      @nolebucnaround8350 3 года назад

      Under anything is correct. Nice truck none the less.

  • @mikeriv60
    @mikeriv60 3 года назад +55

    I own a 2021 Nissan Titan Pro4X and it's an awesome truck and probably the most underrated.

    • @فارسالعتيبي511-ز3ت
      @فارسالعتيبي511-ز3ت 2 года назад +1

      اشكرك نيسان اسعارها معقوله 👍🏽

    • @Linknelson
      @Linknelson 2 года назад +1

      Same as the Frontier in the smaller truck line up

    • @spliter200
      @spliter200 2 года назад

      Any shifting problems with the titan ?

    • @mikeriv60
      @mikeriv60 2 года назад +1

      @@spliter200
      Nope, that was the previous 7 speed this is the 9 speed and it's actually seem less. I also believe that complaint of the 7 speed was blown out of proportion on purpose by others.

    • @thetacticalape8852
      @thetacticalape8852 2 года назад +1

      @@mikeriv60 I have zero shifting issues in my 2019 Pro4x.

  • @eddiekowalczyk8151
    @eddiekowalczyk8151 2 года назад +9

    Titan comes with a 5year 100,000 Miles bumper to bumper coverage!! End of conversation...

  • @brianreuber5768
    @brianreuber5768 3 года назад +53

    Titan all the way for me! I have a 2018 Titan Pro4x and yet to have a single issue . Both trucks are nice looking.

    • @kellyfontes7757
      @kellyfontes7757 Год назад

      With similar MPG, its easy to choose the natuarally aspirated V8. Its not even close to me.

  • @GaryKetchum808
    @GaryKetchum808 3 года назад +32

    Tundra owner here, id take either or. Maybe leaning toward the Tundra cus my current 2014 tundra has horrendous mpg. Titan has always been a cool truck to me tho. Saw a new Frontier a few days ago, now that as an eye catching truck. I’d probably pick that over the Taco.

    • @noelk6606
      @noelk6606 2 года назад +1

      Seeing a lot of testers not getting the MPG Toyota states so sounds like all that work to get rid of the V8 is t paying off

    • @kabbythedog9409
      @kabbythedog9409 2 года назад

      @@noelk6606 ya I finally met someone with one he was doing the math and he’s metric so I was like what’s that in gallons
      Click click click 15-16 mpg

  • @supervong1
    @supervong1 3 года назад +62

    I'll take the Tundra all day overall. The looks, power, fuel efficiency, features and reliability. Once they put the GTR engine on the Titan, then we will have a competition. The new Tundra will be the truck of the year!

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 3 года назад +2

      I'm not so sure. If you're referring to Motor Trend's TOTY, the Rivian R1T which seems to appear all over the channel to the point of looking sponsored, might be a tough challenger to the Tundra. That being said, the Tundra did win the award for 2000.

    • @balancemode4112
      @balancemode4112 3 года назад

      facts 💯

    • @kyrosmike
      @kyrosmike 3 года назад +5

      if Titan gets 16/21 with 9 speed auto and current 5.7 Tundra is 13/17 with 6 speed, we will never find out if 5.7 with 10 speed worked well together

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 3 года назад +1

      @Jean Toronto Raptors
      What's your definition of a real truck?

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 3 года назад

      @Jean Toronto Raptors
      Is the Lightning body on frame? I'm also guessing by your premise that the electric Hummer isn't a real truck.

  • @8k_all_day664
    @8k_all_day664 3 года назад +58

    I bought the Pro4X, breaks domestic necks. VK56 with exhaust is all you need 🤙

    • @gmann212
      @gmann212 3 года назад +6

      The stock exhaust on my 2018 Titan keeps sounding better and better

    • @duomaxwell5807
      @duomaxwell5807 3 года назад +2

      I'm a vq37vhr owner myself 👊🏾🤙🏾

  • @CarsTechWood
    @CarsTechWood 3 года назад +18

    Considering I got $12,500 off MSRP on my base model 2021 Titan, I’ll take the titan.

    • @ricbonillasjr2567
      @ricbonillasjr2567 3 года назад +2

      Bought a 2019 Nissan Titan 4x4 crew cab for $36,000 instead $44,000 good deal

    • @Darbman62
      @Darbman62 3 года назад +2

      My 2017 Titan was MSRP of 49500 and I walked out paying $32000. There is no way you are going to get those kind of deals from Toyota, they really like their vehicles and that is reflected in the price.

    • @spliter200
      @spliter200 2 года назад

      When did you buy it? How did you get $12k off MSRP?

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 2 года назад

      How and when?!

  • @codywillis9882
    @codywillis9882 3 года назад +13

    Boy they really improved the exterior aesthetics of the Titan.

  • @lifesaver718
    @lifesaver718 3 года назад +40

    Its sad that neither one of these trucks will get the respect they deserve...most people perfer the big 3

    • @trelee9865
      @trelee9865 3 года назад +3

      Sad to say but rightfully so, I love my F-150 and I've never once considered a Titan or Tundra, the Titan had an identity crisis between whether it wanted to be a half ton or 3/4 ton, and them dropping the 5.0 Cummins gives me no reason to want one, it was such a unique motor. The outgoing Tundra is old but I see the appeal, traditional truck recipe and a tried and true motor, but the new one is simply over styled for my taste and I don't think a lot of truck buyers are going to like their decision to move upscale and ditch the V8. The truth is, the big 3 are just more competitive, they update they're trucks so often to stay at the front of the pack and they give customers more options on power trains and trim levels.

    • @jibrilsarabi2908
      @jibrilsarabi2908 3 года назад

      Theres a reason more people prefer the big 3. GM and Ford trucks are just superior trucks and the Ram just looks better.

    • @lifesaver718
      @lifesaver718 3 года назад +12

      @@jibrilsarabi2908 Ram trucks are trash..terrible quality control...and I wouldn't say superior....I would say there updated faster...Japanese quality is above average

    • @lifesaver718
      @lifesaver718 3 года назад +1

      @@jibrilsarabi2908 the Tacoma alone pretty much beats them out in reliably and resale....just not in looks lol

    • @bostonyeager8456
      @bostonyeager8456 3 года назад +7

      @@jibrilsarabi2908 only issue is gm ram and mainly Ford is they make crappy vehicles and don’t always keep there word on there warranty

  • @mariofigueroa6776
    @mariofigueroa6776 3 года назад +33

    My Titan has been awesome. Glad I bought it over any other truck. Fuel sucks but it’s a truck

    • @ricbonillasjr2567
      @ricbonillasjr2567 3 года назад +4

      I have an 2019 Nissan Titan 4x4 5.6L, I love it, it has tons of horsepower and towed my travel trailer really good.

    • @PRgencoupe
      @PRgencoupe 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, but in 2021 it’s a lame excuse for not incorporar some numbers and a little technology to get some better gas mileage

    • @colehensley4774
      @colehensley4774 3 года назад +2

      Great truck but 13mpg keeps me up at night

    • @calebniederhofer6529
      @calebniederhofer6529 2 года назад +1

      @@colehensley4774 2020 and up have a 9speed transmission. They don’t get 13mpg.

    • @colehensley4774
      @colehensley4774 2 года назад

      @@calebniederhofer6529 mine is an 04 so sadly, mine does

  • @moonman_8935
    @moonman_8935 3 года назад +29

    I would still take the Titan knowing it's still rocking the n/a V8.

    • @grayloveless9521
      @grayloveless9521 3 года назад +2

      i believe its the same v8 they have been using from day 1

    • @pnwmv
      @pnwmv 3 года назад

      Dumb statement.

  • @michaelmcgintis3209
    @michaelmcgintis3209 3 года назад +9

    I have a 2018 Nissan Titan Pro 4X. Where I work my co- workers are always giving me compliments on my truck. These dudes drive , Rams, Silverados, F-150's and Tundra's. I guess they know a looking truck when they see one.😎

    • @luiszorto1222
      @luiszorto1222 3 года назад +5

      you right alway i love titan i i'm so poor people but i driving the 2008 4full doors with the 4wd and i love..it

    • @michaelmcgintis3209
      @michaelmcgintis3209 3 года назад +1

      @@luiszorto1222 Titan is a good quality truck!! It gets overlooked a lot. Keep driving.

  • @kebotrans
    @kebotrans 3 года назад +11

    Had a 2004 Titan loved it. Went right back and got a 2019 love it also.

    • @cowboysminion8896
      @cowboysminion8896 3 года назад +5

      Just bought one for 6k with under 100k in mileage a couple months ago. Love it

  • @deacadeind
    @deacadeind 3 года назад +10

    I bought a 21 PRO 4X and absolutely love it. My first titan and I'm glad I did. Now Nissan make the warrior

  • @LogicalConclusions
    @LogicalConclusions 3 года назад +18

    Titan Pro 4X rules!

    • @Bembli
      @Bembli  3 года назад +2

      It’s a beautiful machine

    • @rickya1338
      @rickya1338 3 года назад +2

      Yeap I agree I have a 2019 Titan midnight edition white on blk and the new 2021 Baja Storm Titan Pro 4x and I still have my 2006 Titan SE with 211,836 miles on 💥 POW💣😎🤙🏼😂😂😂

    • @carloscampos3684
      @carloscampos3684 3 года назад +4

      I just bought a 2021 pro4x after lemon law my 2020 sierra at4 man I love the prrr of the 5.6 and the 9 speed transmission. Such a fun machine to drive amd the quality is awesome. Definitely underrated but I love having something you don't see all the time on the road.

    • @LogicalConclusions
      @LogicalConclusions 3 года назад

      @@rickya1338 hell yea

    • @LogicalConclusions
      @LogicalConclusions 3 года назад +2

      @@carloscampos3684 good move. Very underrated and I love the fact there’s less of them on the road as well.

  • @aerisd.1155
    @aerisd.1155 3 года назад +8

    just one clarification, its just the Pro-4x. the Titan XD Pro-4x is different than the standard one

  • @jackdaniel1848
    @jackdaniel1848 3 года назад +25

    I'm leaning toward buying a 2018 Titan. It seems like a really underrated truck and price reflects that. I really like the current gen Tundras but honestly, I'm priced out. Plus, I'm old school and like a big, low stress V8, which would lead me to buy a new Titan over a new Tundra, if I could afford it.

    • @williamortlieb
      @williamortlieb 2 года назад +2

      You won't regret. These things are sporty and also workhorses.

    • @_I_only_work_here
      @_I_only_work_here Год назад +5

      Agree. For some reason, the Titan loses value faster. This means you can get a used one for a great price.

    • @leechburglights
      @leechburglights Год назад

      @@_I_only_work_here yes they will now drop like a log because Nissan just announced they are ending production after 2024.

    • @davidabney4746
      @davidabney4746 Год назад

      The Toyota looks like a storm trooper from Star Wars

  • @timferguson593
    @timferguson593 Год назад +3

    Titan is vastly better looking. I say this being a Toyota fan boy.

  • @markmayotte5808
    @markmayotte5808 3 года назад +13

    So the Tundra has more HP, Torque and towing yet you choose the Nissan because you like the "more powerful V8". Makes sense bro. Also, you are making alot of assumptions about the cost of the vehicle and the options. Don't hide your bias.

  • @76marcpalermino
    @76marcpalermino 3 года назад +11

    Nissan finally did away with that goofy Pep Boys special fake vent on the front fenders. HUGE improvement

  • @dave3682
    @dave3682 3 года назад +9

    The Titan is a much better value. Most standard horsepower, tech, and safety features in the class as well as the best warranty by a long shot. You have to shell out big bucks if you want to get a halfway decent spec Tundra.

  • @nolebucnaround8350
    @nolebucnaround8350 3 года назад +34

    The Tundra just from a depreciation and reliability standpoint wins here 100/100 times.

    • @PRgencoupe
      @PRgencoupe 3 года назад +8

      I don’t think you can base this of the past tundras it’s a completely different vehicle even the engine is different

    • @rememberthefallen1970
      @rememberthefallen1970 3 года назад +4

      The issue with your statement is that not enough people have experienced a titan compared to Tundra. This is because of reliability issues that happened years ago before the titan ever came out (2004). I have owned 3 titans and know a bunch of people who have owned titans and like me still own. My 2009 went to 430k miles with only regular maintenance brakes, transmission switches, oil etc. Same with my 2014 XD. Now I own a 2021 XD gas platinum reserve. I just don't ever have problems and I don't know anyone who has had issues with Nissan trucks. Don't know about the cars but anyway with the low sales. I think it is due to the massive issues with their car and SUV iterations in the past with all of the recalls this truck just doesn't sell because of bad brand rap

    • @SuperRedfish44
      @SuperRedfish44 3 года назад

      My thoughts exactly. Nissan Titan has horrible resale

    • @robertschlueter2510
      @robertschlueter2510 2 года назад

      Not the 2022

    • @Gunner001
      @Gunner001 5 месяцев назад

      This comment has aged like warm milk. How about that tundra reliability? 😂

  • @Hopeless512
    @Hopeless512 2 года назад +4

    You actually forgot to mention that Nissan actually has the highest vehicle safety ratings than any other vehicle & also that Nissans can last 100-500 years from generation to generation if taken care of correctly.

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 года назад +18

    These maximum towing numbers are just for bragging rights and "best in class" because the trucks people will buy have MUCH lower ratings.

  • @Padie600
    @Padie600 Год назад +2

    Titan looks better. Front has better clearance and visibility.

  • @corysm30
    @corysm30 Год назад +1

    Didn't the turbo v6 tundra get taken off the recommended list?

  • @carlosclass787
    @carlosclass787 3 года назад +2

    So... the TRD Pro has no front tow hooks?.. Am I missing something?

  • @MrAdam-kp3en
    @MrAdam-kp3en 3 года назад +16

    No question here, Toyota on any days if you want to make the right choice!

  • @DanielGarcia-xe4dc
    @DanielGarcia-xe4dc Год назад +2

    Nissan titan the best warranty on trucks

  • @busalove2013
    @busalove2013 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Titan is the most underrated truck in history! I used to be all in with the tundra, and then Toyota pissed themselves and dropped the V8! Titan all the way 💪

  • @Burritosarebetterthantacos
    @Burritosarebetterthantacos 3 года назад +18

    2 guys I work with sold their fairly new Titans because they were having tons of engine issues. My 15 year old Tacoma has never been in the shop. Do the math.

    • @JB-xd1fo
      @JB-xd1fo 3 года назад +4

      I bought a 2019 Titan I got rid of it because the gas pedal went out, the plastic air intake manifold on top of the engine cracked in half and the radio comes whenever it wants to when it is off mode. The titan only had 17,000 miles on it. I paid 37, 000 and traded it in and got 41,500. Bought a 2021 Toyota highlander for my wife. Nissan is trash!

    • @Bembli
      @Bembli  3 года назад +5

      There’s no denying that both the Tacoma and the Tundra score very high in that category as you’ll see in 100s of videos on this platform. This channel is focused on analyzing the design and aesthetics of the vehicles.

    • @shaunoftheguads
      @shaunoftheguads 3 года назад +6

      I've owned 3 nissans and they've all been great, one is a 2014 titan.

    • @Nmpjamp
      @Nmpjamp 3 года назад +10

      @@shaunoftheguads owner of a 06 titan, that thing still a beast

    • @kirkbrown5346
      @kirkbrown5346 3 года назад +3

      I had a 2019 Titan. I tried Nissan cause i really liked the Titan Midnight Edition. After 1 year of ownership and 18k miles it needed an engine. #7 cylinder scoring. The redesigned DI 5.6 is absolute garbage. I went back to a Tundra. I will never buy a Nissan truck again. Not only that, I lost money on trade-in due to crappy nissan value.

  • @jeremys2029
    @jeremys2029 3 года назад +7

    I still have my 2004 Titan. I bought a 2017 Tundra Pro with double cab to replace it. The ride was horrible, the seats were hard as wood in the Tundra, then me and my buddy drag raced them across and empty parking lot one day. The 2004 Titan kicked my Tundra's ass. I was pissed. I mean pissed. My buddy couldn't stop laughing at me when he saw my face. Unloaded the Pro for a profit over what I bought it earlier this year. Took the money I made off the Tundra added some more to it then put new suspension on the Titan, new radiator, new transmission and haven't looked back since. its paid for and my insurance is dirt cheap. 166,000 miles and I've not touched a single thing on the engine, not a single thing, its bullet proof. And if I ever get in an accident with another vehicle, all that heavy steel in the Titan is going to crush whomever I tangle with.

    • @bcarl4027
      @bcarl4027 3 года назад +4

      Agree my 2008 Titan Platinum is about to hit 301,000 miles and so far the engine and transmission for me have been bulletproof. Had to replace catalytic converters and radiator but still running strong. Probably going to pass it on to my son next year when he turns 16 but I still enjoy driving it. Usually put a couple hundred miles on it a day for work and will haul more then I should payload wise a couple times a week, over 2000 lbs sometime but always feels stable and brakes well. I might just keep it for myself and see how many more miles this thing will go.

    • @nolebucnaround8350
      @nolebucnaround8350 3 года назад +1

      Because of a drag race lol smh

  • @rickybobby8224
    @rickybobby8224 3 года назад +5

    12,000 lbs towing with that wheelbase? These companies are getting reckless with towing numbers. people that dont know better will end up in ditches.
    Also copying the raptor with those orange grill lights is incredibility lame

  • @dave3682
    @dave3682 3 года назад +9

    If you're buying a half-ton truck with coil springs in the rear... you obviously don't need a half ton truck. Every single video of the new Tundra towing it is practically dragging its rear bumper on the pavement!

  • @TwoPair72
    @TwoPair72 3 года назад +2

    I waiting on the 2023 Titan to see if they improve the truck.
    1. Improve towing to around 11k lbs any more buy a HD.
    2. Option a twin turbo six with 400 hp and gobs of torque. Keep the V8.
    3. Follow Ford and go with aluminum.
    4. Multi link rear suspension. It’s been proven on the RAM’s.
    5. Offer an EV.
    Tundra
    1. Front tow hooks. Farmers, construction workers and so forth need them more than you think.
    2. Put in an aggressive tread in the bed
    3. Multi use tailgate
    4. Love it or hate styling
    IDK. Nissan has stepped up the SUV’s and the frontier. Put some thought and engineering marvels in the Titan. There are in last place for a reason.

    • @Darbman62
      @Darbman62 3 года назад +1

      My 2017 Titan has a lot of aluminum panels, they just don't seem to advertise them. They make the Titan XD that tows 12000+ pounds, it also has a heavier frame. My favorite thing about the Titan is that they don't have the stupid autostop on the engine and they don't mess around with all of the hybrid garbage. I still get 24 MPG on the highway and I have the old 7-speed transmission and not the new 9-speed. As far as suspension, the leaf springs work well and it has a pretty smooth suspension, coil overs would just make it squat more when towing. I can see Nissan making a V6TT version, since they have been known for doing that in the past, but I would rather they just supercharge the V8, not that I feel it needs any more power, since it breaks my tires free all the time already.

  • @bryanluther7660
    @bryanluther7660 3 года назад +2

    So you are judging both trucks based on body style and design only? While that matters a bit, what matters to truck buyers is payload, towing capacity, technology (ie. backup cameras, clearance cameras, driver assist packages), off-road capability, unladen fuel economy, and comfort. Can you review those too?

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 2 года назад +1

      Sadly most 1/2 ton drivers care mostly about that stuff. They really almost never need a truck for truck stuff

    • @texasnyghtmare
      @texasnyghtmare Год назад

      The Tundra has better backup cameras as far as resolution but both trucks have them. The Titan will feel better when pulling or hauling whatever you got but mpg will be worse. The new Tundra will have suspension that feels more less like a truck and more towards a car while the Titan will drive like an old school nostalgic American truck and suspension is good but more like expected with a 1/2 ton. V-8 on Titan and with a Toyota type transmission is what you get on them now so that’s great news! Toyota is all supercharged V-6 now but the hp will still be high, have good sound just not that iconic V-8.

  • @richardike2342
    @richardike2342 3 года назад +12

    Toyota Tundra looks like a GM product, while Nissan Titan looks more Japanese.

    • @aerisd.1155
      @aerisd.1155 3 года назад +2

      The funniest part about this is that both the titan and the tundra are far more american than any of the domestic brands 😂

    • @atg1338
      @atg1338 3 года назад +1

      The Toyota looks nothing like a gm you must be blind or just STUPID

    • @aerisd.1155
      @aerisd.1155 3 года назад

      @@atg1338 Actually if you look at the grille and body lines, There IS resemblance to the modern Sierra. However it is a bit of a stretch

    • @richardike2342
      @richardike2342 3 года назад

      @@aerisd.1155 So identity crisis has hit the Truck world as well.

    • @richardike2342
      @richardike2342 3 года назад

      @Jean Toronto Raptors Which ones were copied? Show some proof.

  • @Tom-li9xq
    @Tom-li9xq 3 года назад +13

    I like the tundra more but I want a V8,these turbo V6s aren't my cup of coffee

    • @danielmurray5326
      @danielmurray5326 3 года назад

      Yeah well the V8 stinks in the old tundra compared to the V6 options now

    • @chemkreation
      @chemkreation 3 года назад +3

      @@danielmurray5326 We’ll see in a year or two how that statement holds up.

    • @nengers06
      @nengers06 3 года назад +4

      And the v6 tundra is getting jus 1-2 mpg better than the v8s in the other brands.

  • @wikolib6821
    @wikolib6821 Год назад +1

    That white Tundra reminds me of a Storm Trooper. Just picked up a '23 Pro 4X and so far it's great. At 500 miles breaking in nicely and pleasantly surprised getting 19 mpg combined as long as I don't put my foot in it all the time.

  • @Tarantulaflytrap
    @Tarantulaflytrap 3 года назад +9

    I bet eventually someone will definitely V8 swap the new Tundra whether hybrid or not!

    • @Bembli
      @Bembli  3 года назад +1

      I’d love to see that!

    • @erikgarcia4817
      @erikgarcia4817 3 года назад

      But the new v6 engine has more power than the old v8 tundras

    • @pnwmv
      @pnwmv 3 года назад

      Who is that dumb? This isn't a Honda Civic

  • @sodapuffs
    @sodapuffs 3 года назад +5

    I will choose toyota tundra.

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  • @janamaro5894
    @janamaro5894 3 года назад +4

    I love Nissan Titan and Titan XD with gas V8 this Nissan Titan V8 is a backup truck. After the Tundra V8 is dropped out.

  • @timhardin7511
    @timhardin7511 Год назад +3

    I'm in a 2019 Frontier, but am considering a newer full-size truck and the Titan is currently on top of my list. Yes the GM trucks look great and get better fuel economy, but as I understand it their tranny's won't go much past 150K (and very possibly less), so again the Nissan has my vote. It'll likely be my fourth Nissan in the last 40+ years and no serious issues before 225K on any of the earlier 2. And I really like the looks of the 2023 Titan. As to the Tundra........................I'm not buying a 6 cycler high output engine. IMO it'll be asking for trouble. Again IMO there's no replacement for displacement.

  • @jshapiro34
    @jshapiro34 3 года назад +4

    Toyota couldn’t even get stock on their lots
    Couldn’t even make enough with special colors
    And Toyota fan base is so dumb they will pay 63k all day at 3-8% interest for this truck
    Meanwhile I paid 49k for a fully loaded 21 pro4x at 0% for 84 months no early payoff penalty
    It’s got great seats and safety features along with pure v8

    • @jshapiro34
      @jshapiro34 3 года назад +1

      @MysteriousOklahoma you do know the off-road world is all over the Nissan motor more than Toyota essentially outside of America if it’s not a hilux or a land cruiser it’s worthless

    • @jshapiro34
      @jshapiro34 3 года назад +2

      @MysteriousOklahoma Toyota is made for people that marry their sisters.

    • @Darbman62
      @Darbman62 3 года назад +2

      I have had both Nissans and Toyotas in the last 10 years.
      I will never buy another Toyota. Their drivetrains are great, but the rest of the vehicle just doesn't hold up. Plastics cracking for no reason and body parts falling off. Could be they just aren't designed for cold climate.
      Haven't had one problem with my Nissans.

    • @jshapiro34
      @jshapiro34 3 года назад +1

      @MysteriousOklahoma Nissan is still killing it In Australia and the patrol when the outback declines the vehicles and the patrol is a shitty vehicle is when I’ll give up on Nissan

    • @jshapiro34
      @jshapiro34 3 года назад +1

      @@Darbman62 they are not ment for cold
      The frame snapping showed with mud and salt abuse
      I give it to Toyota they will get you point A to B but Nissan gets you there also with more creature comforts and better ride

  • @jorgecervantes1322
    @jorgecervantes1322 2 года назад +1

    I wish Titan brought back the big sliding mirror it has in the first generation.

  • @jgionti3
    @jgionti3 Год назад

    Great review buddy. Titan all the way

  • @trelee9865
    @trelee9865 3 года назад +6

    My opinion: to preface, I'm a Ford guy through and through and my 2013 is one of the best looking trucks even over a decade later imo. The Titan's headlights are too soft and basic and don't look aggressive enough but all in all it has the recipe for a truck, whereas the Tundra's front bumper is too bulbous, I dislike the symmetry of the tail lights from the profile and the rear bumper looks too vertical. The new Tundra design is over styled and it doesn't sit right with me.

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 года назад +8

    The Tundra probably still won't be able to fit 35" tires without any extra mods so those wheel wells are just laughable.

    • @ultraneight
      @ultraneight 3 года назад +1

      Not to mention all the trouble you'll likely encounter with the new safety sense 2.5 which is standard on all new tundras. Way too many electronic nannies, not even sure you can permanently disable them. I don't want my truck slamming on the brakes or grabbing the steering wheel!

  • @incognito5109
    @incognito5109 Год назад +1

    I think its tragic that honda hasn't come out with a rival for these bad boys 😢

  • @JakTorans
    @JakTorans 2 года назад

    Still driving my 05 4dr 4X4 with 113,000 origins miles. Great truck. I can't imagine driving anything but another Titan.

  • @mariop8576
    @mariop8576 8 месяцев назад

    Have a 23 Pro4X XD that is replacing my 09 Frontier. My frontier has given me 215K trouble free miles. I'm very happy with my new Titan.

  • @kenallen9873
    @kenallen9873 Год назад +1

    Nissan titans are a beautiful truck but they do not show no commercials on TV

  • @GregoryRamsey
    @GregoryRamsey 6 месяцев назад +2

    Tundra nose is too long and hangs down too far. Crappy approach angle and all plastic. Interior is cheap. Wind noise is Rediculous. And engines are crappinng out. Traded my 23 limited for a 24 Titan XD. Much happier so far.

    • @absolute.freedom
      @absolute.freedom 3 месяца назад +2

      The XD is the superior truck in every way. It's also incredibly reliable, enjoy and good choice!

  • @jackyoshino31
    @jackyoshino31 3 года назад +3

    I'll be honest, the first adjective that comes to mind is "phuglly! What's with the oversized Lexus grille. The Overlander crowd are gonna have a heck of a time designing and mounting aftermarket bumpers ,winches and accessory lights. But I do appreciate the technological advances engine and suspension wise. But aesthetically I prefer the sportier lines of the previous model. I'll just have to keep rolling along in my '94 Pre-Taco 4x4.

  • @larryhawes8295
    @larryhawes8295 3 года назад +9

    I own an older 03 Tacoma and always try and remember you don't drive a truck while looking at the front, and you don't wind up at the mechanics by looking at the front but to me the Tundra's front is butt ugly. Wouldn't change my mind about buying it but just sayin'. I like the simple clean Titan's lines and look but again would not make my buying decision on looks alone..

    • @Mrsmith4102
      @Mrsmith4102 3 года назад

      There are aftermarket grills that look awesome

  • @carloscampos3684
    @carloscampos3684 3 года назад +10

    I've had both. Currently have the titan pro4x and I love getting in this machine. Tundra with the v6 just does not appeal to me but the 5.7 was great for me. Both great trucks I just love the v8. Not sure I like tue new design yet of the tundra.

  • @esteemedenergy
    @esteemedenergy 3 года назад +7

    Nissan or a Toyota. Generally, people buy Nissan because they cannot afford a Toyota. Simple as that.

    • @trent7080
      @trent7080 3 года назад +9

      Not true, Nissan pricing is very close to Toyota. Nissan, it's subsidiaries, and parent organization outsold Toyota globally from 2016-19. Only a delusional person lacking in knowledge would say what you said.

    • @shaunoftheguads
      @shaunoftheguads 3 года назад +8

      Generally people buy Nissan because they make great motors and vehicles that are just as reliable as other brands.

  • @RustyShacklefourd
    @RustyShacklefourd 3 года назад +2

    Watching this video while sitting in my 2021 pro 4x Titan.

  • @patriciamunro493
    @patriciamunro493 5 месяцев назад +2

    I researched and purchased the titan pro4x

  • @danielk0106
    @danielk0106 3 года назад +10

    That Tundra front grille is UGLY AF making the whole truck ugly. I'll take the Titan. Oh wait, I already have a Titan🤣

    • @shaunoftheguads
      @shaunoftheguads 3 года назад +2

      That Tundra looks like it was designed by children for hot wheels, the thing is not attractive at all. Probably gonna be a good truck but I can't get past the looks.

    • @danielk0106
      @danielk0106 3 года назад +1

      @@shaunoftheguads They should've left the V-8 optional

    • @pkingpure100
      @pkingpure100 3 года назад

      Well depends on how old you are, for most young people, it is one awesome looking truck. However, older people will probably not like it, which is normal with everything.

    • @danielk0106
      @danielk0106 3 года назад +1

      @@pkingpure100 Not really. I'm 58 and think the Ford Tremor looks nice. To me the Tundra looks like a mixture of a 2021 Chevy 3/4 work truck and a Ram. Like it or not that grille is still ugly AF. BUT it looks better in Red with the black grille. Looks like they went for the Storm Trooper look on the white Tundra

  • @Albert-777
    @Albert-777 2 года назад +4

    I totally agree what you said appreciate the 411, I used to have a 2004 Titan and I like the shifter a lot better on the console than I do on the column. I also think a shark fin would be cool just like its younger brother the frontier. I’ve owned a tundra also 2020 trd pro, and I must admit I will take the Titan over the tundra if I had to do it again.💪🏼👍🏼

    • @JakTorans
      @JakTorans 2 года назад

      100% agree console shifter is more fun.

    • @Albert-777
      @Albert-777 2 года назад

      @@JakTorans totally 2nd that 👍🏼

  • @semiauto3148
    @semiauto3148 3 года назад +3

    I absolutely agree on breaking all that black up on the grill of the Tundra….it’s just to much…got a feeling the Tacoma is going to get the same ugly grill in its redesign…. I know some ppl will like this grill and to each his own. But as for looks go. I think the titan looks better

  • @ernestmorin8721
    @ernestmorin8721 3 года назад

    This guy should get a 3/4 ton.. nothing wrong with what these 1/2 tons have
    .. what a guy

  • @lukman8400
    @lukman8400 2 года назад

    Around 4:05 you mention the offroad version for Nissan. Slight correction, the TRD Pro for Nissan is Pro4x, without XD. The XD is a whole different chassis created for towing. Still called Titan XD but way more capable that the regular Titan or Tundra. You are right that there is also an XD Pro4x but it is not a direct comparison to Tundra.

  • @Jackofafewtrades
    @Jackofafewtrades 3 года назад +6

    The tundra would look great if you cut the whole bottom lip off the front bumper and replaces it with a skid plate.

  • @oswaldoaguilar9933
    @oswaldoaguilar9933 3 года назад +2

    As a 2004 nissan titan owner. with 200k miles on it. I wouldn't put my money on a v6🤣🤣. I love my truck, but it's time to get the 2022 titan 5.6.

  • @swaggxbl2353
    @swaggxbl2353 3 года назад +5

    I have a 2021 Titan and love it, Bumper to Bumper 9 year warrenty, way nicer interior and looks better from the outside….. The Toyota front end is uaf…..Btw the Titan won’t fold when in an accident….. Nissan is making better products than Toyota right now, the tide has shifted

    • @danielmurray5326
      @danielmurray5326 3 года назад

      You're so absurdly wrong it's not even funny wow give your head a shake

  • @mikem8093
    @mikem8093 3 года назад +2

    Very good review, couldn't agree more, right on the money

  • @2jz_hayden
    @2jz_hayden 3 года назад +3

    The Nissan by far wins in looks. I didn’t watch the video so idk bout the tundro.

  • @JosephDragunov
    @JosephDragunov 3 года назад +1

    People get really hung up on black fender flares making wheel well look larger... in bad photos. In real life it's probably not an issue at all.

  • @swoopjunky
    @swoopjunky 3 года назад

    Do you know the total height on the TRD PRO?

  • @derecksellsjax
    @derecksellsjax 3 года назад +3

    Toyota nailed the redesign of the Tundra! I wouldn’t change anything about the looks.

    • @heut4384
      @heut4384 3 года назад +2

      To me, this new designed Tundra does not look like a real truck. There's something weird about the front bumper (or lacking of). It looks like a version of a Hylander'ish. I do like the front lights, though. Nothing else.

  • @aerisd.1155
    @aerisd.1155 3 года назад +1

    When it saw the new Tundra, one vehicle sprung to mind. Its a Tundra/Corolla

  • @jsvm10301
    @jsvm10301 2 года назад +1

    The Tundra looks like one of those big plastic power wheels vehicles you’d whip around the neighborhood as a kid. It’s cool but to completely toss the V8 and just make a whole new vehicle irks me. I get the push for better fuel economy but the turbo setup rarely lasts (I.e. all other half ton models). I hope I’m wrong and Toyota quality continues with this model.

  • @LaSarge
    @LaSarge 3 года назад +5

    First time seeing your video, pretty cool man. I would like to let you know the photo you were comparing and drawing on, is not the XD version of the Titan. It is the non-XD version. So for Titan the XD is geared towards better towing because of the reinforced frame. The non-XD version (smaller) is geared towards daily driving/ smaller towing like a boat. Both versions can have the offroad package. Also all offroad pro-4x has every safety feature standard. So 360 camera, smart cruise control. Etc. The only things you can pay more for as far as levels of Pro-4x, is the 2nd level has heated seats. The 3rd level(top level) will have cooled seats and panoramic sunroof.
    So I guess you need to redraw with the real Nissan Titan XD.
    The Nissan Titan XD is taller and longer than the non-XD.
    So maybe change your title to non-XD Nissan Titan comparison.

  • @jcorona0791
    @jcorona0791 3 года назад +3

    Install a turbo or a bolt on super charger on the Titan and it will smoke that V6 Thundra all day long .

    • @kaibavelarde
      @kaibavelarde 3 года назад

      So what if someone does the same to the v6 tundra? Lol circles and circles.

    • @jcorona0791
      @jcorona0791 3 года назад

      @@kaibavelarde we can put a beefed up GTR engine end of story.

    • @kaibavelarde
      @kaibavelarde 3 года назад

      @@jcorona0791 and they can put a beefed up Lexus engine. 😂😂😂 lfa or something else. They've had all this time to put in a skyline type engine but haven't even with the concept warrior instead they thought it was a great idea to put that horrible Cummins engine.

    • @jcorona0791
      @jcorona0791 3 года назад +1

      Cummins is a great engine I have one with 600000 miles in it and no issues, and as far as the thundra goes is overrated they will have the issues like the Ford ecoboost. No Lexus or Toyota engine can touch the Godzilla engine. It has been beaten to death on your precious Supras and Lexus here in the streets of Houston Tx. Just take your silly Lexus of Toyotas and they will get smoked.

    • @jcorona0791
      @jcorona0791 3 года назад +1

      King of Texas Streets an Unbeaten GTR look them up. And I'm not saying that thundra is not a good truck. But it's foolish to put a V6 twin turbo for towing.

  • @trouthunter22
    @trouthunter22 3 года назад +3

    I enjoy your design interpretations. I’m not sure if you acknowledged that the 2022 Tundra is 4.9” longer in overall body length than the Titan. The 2022 Tundra is 4.5” longer than the 2021 Tundra. The added length comes with zero added functionality. Interior cab space is the same or slightly less and the interior usable bed length is the same. Turning radius curb-to-curb is 44’ on the 2021 Tundra. I have not seen the 2022 specs for turning radius curb-to-curb, wall-to-wall, approach or departure angles. I’m guessing that all have suffered with the new design. The underbite on the front and the thickening of the tail gate (again with no added functionality) both contribute to the increased length. If you look at the exposed chassis and mechanics without the sheetmetal/plastics, cab or bed you can see the frame rails stop at approximately the same location as the intercooler radiators with are mounted high in the grill area. If these were mounted lower that might explain the protruding lower front bumper and facia. But they don’t. I’m interested in seeing what the aftermarket (SEMA 2021) does to the new 2022 in terms of new front bumpers (with and without winches) and new rear bumpers. The lack or recovery points may seen like nit picking but even the folks who use their truck 99 percent on-highway will come appreciate recovery points if they ever slide into a ditch while making a run to the mountains to go skiing. I like the overall design of the 2022. I just think that if Toyota would have retained the length and turning radius specs (maybe they did) of the 2021 Tundra, the new truck might have looked better (to your points) AND be (possibly) more functional on and off road. As it is… I think the front and rear design on the 2022 Tundra would fit more on a Sequoia and Sequoia XL competing against GM and Ford large SUVs. Cheers

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 2 года назад

      How do you hunt trout?! Lol. Jk. Great info tho. I’d rather have the 21 tundra over the 22. My 5.7 sequoia is a 2008 and 204k miles. Fantastic beasts.

  • @killerb5726
    @killerb5726 3 года назад +1

    If I were buying today, Titan. After a few years and if all goes well, Tundra.

    • @leviwittmayer8343
      @leviwittmayer8343 3 года назад +2

      100% agree, and I am a big Toyota fan. Pro 4x for $50K or TRD Pro for $70K+ also makes the decision easier.

  • @christophercarter3723
    @christophercarter3723 2 года назад +3

    I bought the 2022 titan pro 4x.

  • @Chilln187
    @Chilln187 2 года назад

    I had to stop at 0:12, sorry hear me out. Please for the love of the ball bearing twin turbo gods, Stop comparing the 2022 Tundra to any other full size truck or mid size. To all reviewers. Please stop. Its a V6. They F'd UP. At the same time, look at the price. Tundra still cost the same, V8 vs "I.mmmmmm" nope not going to say it. The comparison is like comparing a 90/20's S10 to a true GMC. It is, let be honest. V6 vs V8. Regardless of the crap turbo's, just make it a 4 with a blower if no longer offering the v8. Looks like if you want a v8, you will need almost $70-100k for a truck. At that price, why not just purchase a 2500? I love my #16Crewmax thus why I am keeping her and I don't have 2500 money laying around to drive 4 miles a day. If you want more camera's, they are cheap and easy to run.

  • @davidbuchberger2695
    @davidbuchberger2695 3 года назад +1

    Good video but he must not Ulinger stand that the v6 tundra has way more power than the Nissan. Two more cylinders and less power just means worse gas mileage.

  • @saibibtughmoobcalifornia
    @saibibtughmoobcalifornia 3 года назад

    I had a nissan pickup truck. It was the NISMO Packet…….Bought it brand new off the lot. 4 years later, had to replaced the transmission. Cost an arm and a leg. 5 years later, having electrical problem…Sometimes engine shuts off when i’m driving in the middle of the road. Maybe I’m just having back luck with the NISSAN truck.

  • @AJsHotRodsNrepairs
    @AJsHotRodsNrepairs Год назад +1

    You might want to look other than Titan for fuel mileage..... Toyota is the absolute worse mpg they are pigs. My Hemi ram gets 9.8l/100 on highway, I used to have a Tundra with 5.7 (same size engines) and best it could ever do was 17l/100. I don't know what Toyota doing but making a good V8 that don't drink, isn't one of them.

    • @AJsHotRodsNrepairs
      @AJsHotRodsNrepairs Год назад

      Also working on autobody as profession, we've done a few new tundras.... Those front ends are not very sturdy let's say

  • @tearoftaste4183
    @tearoftaste4183 3 года назад +3

    Ask yourself how long is that twin turbo 3.5 going to last? That's a lot of weight for a 6 cylinder to push. How long will these turbo's last before they go out. I'll take the old reliable V8 any day. I think Toyota really screwed up discontinuing the 5.7 V8. Going to have to go with the Titan.

    • @danielmurray5326
      @danielmurray5326 3 года назад

      And it's Toyota. So now obviously they know what they're doing and the V6 is anyway better motor. Get over it

    • @janamaro5894
      @janamaro5894 3 года назад

      @@danielmurray5326 Let him go. He got a Titan V8 so don't even go that.

  • @alexgarcia3900
    @alexgarcia3900 3 года назад +1

    The previous tundra sold twice as many units as the titan and toyota wasn't even producing as many as the demand was.
    Now with the new tundra the titan is even more irrelevant.

    • @thetacticalape8852
      @thetacticalape8852 2 года назад +1

      Vehicle sales have nothing to do with which product is better. If you're judging by that the only relevant truck is the F150...

    • @alexgarcia3900
      @alexgarcia3900 2 года назад

      @@thetacticalape8852 it's ugly as hell though. That's why no one is buying it. Sales do matter. Maybe it's a decent truck but no one is picking it over anything else because it looks awful.

  • @mscott3309
    @mscott3309 2 года назад

    Look to get my first truck . I’m a tundra fan not the new tundra, but the older tundra body style like a 2018 body style. I’m really a huge fan of the back window of the tundra. I know that kinda of trademark of Toyota my aunt had a 4 runner about 15 years ago and that back window went completely down . I wish all pickup trucks had that. I never looked into a titan but what peaked my interest in a titan is that i currently own a 2013 Nissan Maxima that i bought in 2015 and i absolutely love they car , so that kinda makes me want to stay in the Nissan/ infinity family

  • @ngashmir
    @ngashmir 3 года назад +7

    Maan! That Tundra is a beauty. A clear win for Toyota. Top of the Category for sure.

    • @drweedon
      @drweedon 3 года назад +4

      That Tundra is an ugly duckling...just horrid design lol

    • @jibrilsarabi2908
      @jibrilsarabi2908 3 года назад +3

      Tundra is a beauty? 😂😂😂 its actually the new ugliest truck. Top of category? Something tells me its sale numbers will go down.

    • @erikgarcia4817
      @erikgarcia4817 3 года назад

      @@drweedon better than the worst looking nissan titans and I bet that Toyotas will last longer than titans and more powerful.

    • @andrusaaliiy9267
      @andrusaaliiy9267 3 года назад +2

      @@erikgarcia4817 I doubt Toyotas V6 turbo can outlast a v8

  • @matthewpeterson3329
    @matthewpeterson3329 6 месяцев назад

    The Tundra rear bumper is a HUGE fail, not from an asthetic view, but because they removed any step from the corner once the tailgate is lowered. Trucks are for working out of, for hauling toys that need to be tied down... if you can't climb into the bed, what damned good is it? If the Tundra was perfect in every other way, I still wouldn't buy it for that reason, or be forced to buy an aftermarket bumper (or corner drop down steps) so that I can climb into the back. That is the triumph of Chevy and Ford, building steps into the tailgate itself for access. Anyone actually using a truck for more than a fashion statement knows how important this is.

  • @brandonyen7837
    @brandonyen7837 3 года назад +1

    I’ll buy any one of these if I could afford it but I can’t I’m 83 years old

  • @TundraTalk76
    @TundraTalk76 2 года назад +1

    Hopefully Nissan stays with the v8 line up and I am sure there sales will increase for sure

  • @Ugh_its_dat_guy86
    @Ugh_its_dat_guy86 3 года назад +3

    Well I like both trucks however let's talk about toyota's biggest screw up. NO recovery hooks 🤔, I suppose you pull it out of the mud or whatever with the giant grill

    • @timmyadam3542
      @timmyadam3542 3 года назад

      Whan, whan.. tow hooks belong on off road vehicles and no one is buying a 70000$ truck to take it off road stock. So quit your whining.

  • @310chris18
    @310chris18 3 года назад +2

    I'll buy the toyota but then I would also buy the titan because it has a v8