The talk about different cultures reminds me of a classmate from ghana. He said that there prolonged eye contact can be seen as confrontational or disrespectful
Mass ghouls is actually really good in the right conditions. It falls off hard in the late game but early game it can be really good when paired with dispel like dryad/shaman to stop early lightning shield counter. After that only counter is aoe magic like DH lich panda. Its even better with dread lord or tc for obvious reasons. Massing ghouls is cheap and can easily net you an early tower if your opponent doesnt get a good counter early.
Pretty cool to see Ghouls having a niche use - if you had more AOE dmg from your heroes and not just from your air, even just 1 frost nova/shockwave, those Ghouls would instantly evaporate.
i dont think so man, aoe has dmg cap too and eventuelly can only hit 1/3 of these ghouls and if u dont kill them they heal up quickly MGs are bad tanks vs ghouls coz of armor type but i think he woulda needed 2 good aoe heros at least to deal with this mass ghouls with dl vamp healing
11:45 grubby so real. i havent played wc3 in prob a decade almost but grubby still remains one of my go to for my meal - watches haha. very intellectual talk and entertaining content never misses.
18:31 I respect you @Grubby for how often you don’t talk like this. I talk like this 96% of the time I play lol. It does make it that much more funny when you do let it out. Love you grub
Nexus wars is better and faster than desert wars. Both are better than castle wars. Nexus wars you just need to assign roles at start, 1 goes Protoss, start with 2x gate then maybe 3x gate 1x or 2x immortal but main goal is to get air superiority because tempest will carry. protoss imo are best in both modes -> cheap & hidden detection. easy upgrades to make zealots/immortals strong enough.
As a RUclips watcher I'm super glad you are duel streaming on RUclips. Also, need more DS this is my fix right now, I need you to cut out sleeping and do more DS it is the best thing to have on all day while working.
@FellHead yes, I think the Tauren chieftain actually has a higher melee attack range too. I think regular melee attack range is about 130, but TCs are so big they got 170~ listing as melee. Otherwise their animations would completely mess up
i was in a game against a guy who did this mass ghoul strat. I just made an insane amount of Necros and crushed hiim. Although to be fair this guy had FD's, which completely cook necros if you animate while they flare lol
"Blue, no orb?" could either be a command, a snarky judgment, a sincere question, or a friendly reminder... It's often times worth writing a few extra words so the intent is clear 😅
Just an improvement you can do easily: I saw it in several of your vids: Pick Skill after you see the enemy wave. Only for Drow you have to decide upfront as it is bugged currently (arrow). This make sense for situations like this at level 1 and especially good for AM, Beastmaster (which dmg type makes sense), FL etc.
Serbs are one of the most friendliest people on planet Earth, especially if you are a foreigner and you need some type of help, directions, etc. It's in our culture to go out with our friends, drink coffee, be outside, and not just work, work, work, come home, watch TV, sleep, wake up, repeat, like it's the case in the West, especially the USA. At the same time, in Serbia, we are confused and surprised if someone unknown just passes by and says "Hello!", "Wish you a good day!", "How you doing?" etc. because it's simply not in our culture to greet unknown people only for the sake of it. We think there's a hidden motive, agenda, since there's no reason for someone that we don't know to be all cheerful and smiley towards us. We take it with a grain of salt. I believe that's what that person in the chat wanted to say.
maybe you should do an efficiency analysis of the ghouls? What is its Effective HP / Gold compared to other tanks? Also in Mass Ghouls also have a higher chance of being overkilled.
I've been testing out a 2nd gold mine before hero build in 2k MMR. Works pretty well. Should preferably have shaman and cheap frontline. You delay your hero and rely on unit advantage until you can get your hero out on the 3rd or 4th wave.
I dunno about anyone else, but by far my favourite games to watch are ones where wild, unusual stuff happens. Like this. Even if it's non-competitive and falls flat on its face. It's _interesting_.
Death Pact DK is probably the most effective tank, building fiends is like buying gems that do damage until you need them. Edit: As long as he actually uses the skill LOL. Probably another shadow situation, he only uses it early game.
38:52 It was a great sum of things. You stopped stacking with Lich. Major thing I think. He maybe positioned badly. Second, you stopped making mountain giants those are so good vs gouls. The hero choices were not good. The dwarf plus clap plus taurenchief could have stopped all gouls. Evasion is much better than a second armur ring or an orb. Also Cloak... bad choice I think. Death knight -D hero now jejejeje
Wouldnt making an air tight line of Mgs semi counter ghouls since only a few could attack each Mg at once while others would have to try to go around/path. But if you have spaces they will get surrounded and die way faster??
Trust is weird. In Germany you look them into the eye during a toast or you'll be punished with 7 years of bad sex. And yes, lokes about not looking because bad sex is better than none had been made.
mass ghouls is actually quite powerful, you need to have raiders for it really to work proper... people say in theory it's bad lategame, but actually mass ghoul is extremely powerful because it can steamroll caster/ranged armies... your 12 tauren are not going to be enough against 60 ghouls i guarantee it, especially since pulverize cannot be upgraded
In Slovakia, that toast thingy doesnt happen, never heard of it. Id consider that manipulativecoercive/controlling, Unless youre a pro at staring into others eyes like youre looking behind them, weird.
Isnt evasion like the best purchase? As there are million ghouls hitting, the value on that seems insane to me. Cloak is not good as they have vampiric, completely negated
Grubby, you need to play Dota as a core player to understand how many bad decisions you've made with spells and items. Almost every time you lose, it's because of this. For example, Ts needed his Q ability; why sell Flame Guard? Sell a ring and buy evasion. Dark Pact for DK? No Orb until almost the end? And much more. Your decision-making with heroes is consistently weak.
is there some kind of negative traid when upgrading a goldmine? it seems that Grubby dont use all the mines even after 35 minutes of gameplay. isnt income the first thing to max no matter what?
You have to spend to money to make money. Not only does the last mine take a long time to pay for itself(the game could very well end before it even pays off), but that money could have gone towards units, items, tech up, upgrades. etc to keep your team on their side of the map for center control income. You could end up losing your team 20 income (10 gold each while you go neutral until it pays off) and giving the enemy team +30 income because you went 4th mine.
Yes. The main tradeoff is you lose control of mid, which gives one mine's worth of income to everyone on the team that controls mid. So you making mines cedes control of mid in an otherwise equal game. And once your opponents are stronger, they TOO can get a mine and will maintain mid. So you getting early mines can just screw over your team because your opponent beats you, leaks to the next wave and disrupts them, and causes them to lose.
as an eastern european I can say that it would be weird if you did not look me in the eye while toasting. It is a little bit offensive, but also a cultural thing I guess.
kotg with thorns aura (rather than dk) would've made a huge difference. Of course, you had no time to choose lol. Just crazy to think about how decisions made in a fraction of a second have long term implications (irl too). I always enjoy your videos, Grub! You sounded like Jordan Peterson for a bit there haha!
Grubby addicted to new game, Directer strike. The game automatically calculates who will win based on their draft and the game ends. Since Grubby is dutch, he enjoys how much more direct this game mode is.
Appreciate the kind words towards your Catholic/Christian school. That's how it's supposed to be. Most people don't have correct image and just think we are overbearing when it is the exact opposite. It's just good moral values. It's a guide for everyone to be good people, Catholic means universal.
Harstem is good but he is old now, no -- longer pro level, if he is still considered a pro he is bottom tier like anyone better than him is a pro. he would beat me 2/3 consistently but i could wear him down and change that to 1.8/3 then be a pro in sc2 with a few months. Just does not tickle my fancy being the lowest skilled "pro" I guess the same reason you retired if that makes sense.
19:08 "lets get meat wagons to close this out", game proceeds to go 20 more minutes 🤣
AND he still loses
and to lose
@@Jashinthegiant that's ds for ya
I think that guy would have found success earlier, but the blue lich countered him quite hard. Grubby's army had no AoE
I guess the critical mass of ghoul is HELL OF A LOT.
And he still had 2/3 of space... my hero of warcraftminecraft
The talk about different cultures reminds me of a classmate from ghana. He said that there prolonged eye contact can be seen as confrontational or disrespectful
Pretty common in the animal kingdom
We are animal after all@@MetalinTheSky
Mass ghouls is actually really good in the right conditions. It falls off hard in the late game but early game it can be really good when paired with dispel like dryad/shaman to stop early lightning shield counter. After that only counter is aoe magic like DH lich panda. Its even better with dread lord or tc for obvious reasons. Massing ghouls is cheap and can easily net you an early tower if your opponent doesnt get a good counter early.
It wont work for exaple against night elves with these bouncing blades
grubby had just shitty heroes tbh. with stacked aoe he would toast the ghoul army :>
Also their staked heros were great. Plus hippos cleaning the skyes.
dreadlord aoe is now capped i think at 600 damage so its not really that countering at this amount 😆
Tauren don't exist in this game?
Pretty cool to see Ghouls having a niche use - if you had more AOE dmg from your heroes and not just from your air, even just 1 frost nova/shockwave, those Ghouls would instantly evaporate.
Yeah solo dk for so long was not the play needed some aoe
i dont think so man, aoe has dmg cap too and eventuelly can only hit 1/3 of these ghouls and if u dont kill them they heal up quickly
MGs are bad tanks vs ghouls coz of armor type but i think he woulda needed 2 good aoe heros at least to deal with this mass ghouls with dl vamp healing
11:45 grubby so real. i havent played wc3 in prob a decade almost but grubby still remains one of my go to for my meal - watches haha. very intellectual talk and entertaining content never misses.
I'm just here cheering for the lich lol
18:31 I respect you @Grubby for how often you don’t talk like this. I talk like this 96% of the time I play lol. It does make it that much more funny when you do let it out. Love you grub
Learn to become like the Grub, and earn the respect of others
This felt like a Joe Rogan Experience - different cultural norms, weed, Catholicism and theology, physiology of the gamers body
Nexus wars is better and faster than desert wars. Both are better than castle wars. Nexus wars you just need to assign roles at start, 1 goes Protoss, start with 2x gate then maybe 3x gate 1x or 2x immortal but main goal is to get air superiority because tempest will carry. protoss imo are best in both modes -> cheap & hidden detection. easy upgrades to make zealots/immortals strong enough.
As a RUclips watcher I'm super glad you are duel streaming on RUclips. Also, need more DS this is my fix right now, I need you to cut out sleeping and do more DS it is the best thing to have on all day while working.
10:00 you can see a hammer flying up the screen
It's hammer time.
Grubby's comment about Korea, reminds me a lot of my experience in Japan. It gets so frustrating dealing with the false face and overpoliteness.
cloak is good early game against ghouls or footmen. it's not something you buy past 15 min mark and especially not at 35 min
and especially not if, in the same round, you also buy an orb, so that your hero dies to air units before seeing any ghouls
Cloak deals good dmg to ghouls... but ghoul and TC atk range (or his model) > cloak range lol 37:30
@FellHead yes, I think the Tauren chieftain actually has a higher melee attack range too. I think regular melee attack range is about 130, but TCs are so big they got 170~ listing as melee. Otherwise their animations would completely mess up
0:35 that is a nice speech
17:30 best bit youve in a while, grubby
32:22 Orb on dk is much better, his aura is for support not for tanking.
"Chat, for what do I save up?" Chat: "Boat" 😂👌
Game was hilarious with our earlygame completely carried by Lich. Maybe cloak of flames for DK may have helped for when he wasnt there.
Erm actually 15% evasion is 18% (rounded up) effective health increase since its 1.176
i was in a game against a guy who did this mass ghoul strat. I just made an insane amount of Necros and crushed hiim. Although to be fair this guy had FD's, which completely cook necros if you animate while they flare lol
"You are so good Grubby" then give him the Kappa shirt is 120 IQ moove
Believe me, that player is a OG Zergling player from StarCraft and wanted to reproduce it
0:50 Wise Words.
"Blue, no orb?" could either be a command, a snarky judgment, a sincere question, or a friendly reminder... It's often times worth writing a few extra words so the intent is clear 😅
Needed double MK's with thunder claps! :))
Just an improvement you can do easily: I saw it in several of your vids: Pick Skill after you see the enemy wave. Only for Drow you have to decide upfront as it is bugged currently (arrow). This make sense for situations like this at level 1 and especially good for AM, Beastmaster (which dmg type makes sense), FL etc.
Dark ranger can be fixed mid-wave by turning off and on her black arrow in the ability AI. It's annoying, but it works
@thesustraveler Yeah, you are right! 👍
Serbs are one of the most friendliest people on planet Earth, especially if you are a foreigner and you need some type of help, directions, etc. It's in our culture to go out with our friends, drink coffee, be outside, and not just work, work, work, come home, watch TV, sleep, wake up, repeat, like it's the case in the West, especially the USA. At the same time, in Serbia, we are confused and surprised if someone unknown just passes by and says "Hello!", "Wish you a good day!", "How you doing?" etc. because it's simply not in our culture to greet unknown people only for the sake of it. We think there's a hidden motive, agenda, since there's no reason for someone that we don't know to be all cheerful and smiley towards us. We take it with a grain of salt. I believe that's what that person in the chat wanted to say.
I'd say it's universal for Slavic people in general. Genuinely kind but not into fake smiles and bullshit.
This appeals to me. I hate disingenuous ppl
Unless they are albanian
@@marc0lin00 ter**rists* Yeah, I agree.
maybe you should do an efficiency analysis of the ghouls? What is its Effective HP / Gold compared to other tanks? Also in Mass Ghouls also have a higher chance of being overkilled.
Had an enemy not so long ago who went mass ghouls pala with cloak of flames. It rolled over me so frickin hard I had no chance
I've been testing out a 2nd gold mine before hero build in 2k MMR. Works pretty well. Should preferably have shaman and cheap frontline. You delay your hero and rely on unit advantage until you can get your hero out on the 3rd or 4th wave.
@18:22 not going for lvl 3 aura hurts my soul xD its the most op aura, since the reg is pumped up...basicly a mobile healing ward
Active abilities in this map is a cosmetic ones. Dev should make it work till game pops btw
Next video: mass gouls with max aura
I dunno about anyone else, but by far my favourite games to watch are ones where wild, unusual stuff happens. Like this. Even if it's non-competitive and falls flat on its face. It's _interesting_.
Warstomp is so bad man, he never uses it, always pick shockwave.
10:00 what is that?
Dorn:
/way 56.21 61.00
/way 61.47 18.58
Deeps:
/way 48.86 32.87
/way 64.18 60.34
Azj:
/way 50.24 16.75 + vendor (10 skill for 575 kej)
/way 53.26 53.11
Hallow:
/way 40.12 68.13
/way 49.28 62.33
where to download the game ? LINK PLS
What happen at 9:59. That hammer?
i thought i was crazy
Visual bug due to custom skins
It was hammer time.
i have not once seen a game where anyone bothers to micro a mg's taunt to stop a channeling spell. break the chain
It doesn't stop channeling in melee. I wouldn't think it breaks channeling in DS unless it's custom coded
there's no thorns-aura giving item, right?
Correct. There is no such item
The sleep is broken. All units can still hit the slept hero....
It's intentionally changed in direct strike to basically function as a long stun
1:10 Wanna bet that Grubby is going to do more Lich, Farseer and DR first type of 1vs1 games now after Direct Strike?
Death Pact DK is probably the most effective tank, building fiends is like buying gems that do damage until you need them.
Edit: As long as he actually uses the skill LOL. Probably another shadow situation, he only uses it early game.
DK just never uses it for some reason. But then yoinks Frost Wyrms while at 75% health. This game's AI is trash honestly.
38:52 It was a great sum of things.
You stopped stacking with Lich. Major thing I think. He maybe positioned badly.
Second, you stopped making mountain giants those are so good vs gouls.
The hero choices were not good. The dwarf plus clap plus taurenchief could have stopped all gouls.
Evasion is much better than a second armur ring or an orb. Also Cloak... bad choice I think.
Death knight -D hero now jejejeje
Agree on most accounts but evasion is certainly not better than ring of protection until you already have 12 armor. It's just how the math works out.
Mg good against ghouls???
Hey mom, i am in a Grubby Video! 🎉
3:44 kotg dk mk
Wouldnt making an air tight line of Mgs semi counter ghouls since only a few could attack each Mg at once while others would have to try to go around/path. But if you have spaces they will get surrounded and die way faster??
Collision size of units is much reduced in direct strike. The ghouls would basically all still attack at once without any meaningful body blocking
Weird, after I watched this vid, immediately at YT homepage, Kurzgesagt channel posted a vid about "We have to talk about weed". WTF
bro the ghouls would have rektet grubby this game if the LICH WASNT IN EVERY DAM FREKAING ROUND IT WAS LIKE GRUBBY MADE A SECOND HERO
Grubby - will you marry me on a magic carpet ride?
wouldn't flame cloak help? is it buyable?
well i hsould have waited 1 more minute befor i commented what i did
Trust is weird. In Germany you look them into the eye during a toast or you'll be punished with 7 years of bad sex. And yes, lokes about not looking because bad sex is better than none had been made.
mass ghouls is actually quite powerful, you need to have raiders for it really to work proper... people say in theory it's bad lategame, but actually mass ghoul is extremely powerful because it can steamroll caster/ranged armies... your 12 tauren are not going to be enough against 60 ghouls i guarantee it, especially since pulverize cannot be upgraded
What is the counter then?
@@Ronin3453 flying/magic
@@kristianstenerson2608 but that goes for any frontline apart from giants. And anything mass produced has hard counters.
20:06 AI needs a patch so badly, this death pact absence was disgusting
Improved AI my ass.
In Slovakia, that toast thingy doesnt happen, never heard of it. Id consider that manipulativecoercive/controlling, Unless youre a pro at staring into others eyes like youre looking behind them, weird.
When does 6.1 goes live on w3c?
Newest patch is already live
Isnt evasion like the best purchase? As there are million ghouls hitting, the value on that seems insane to me. Cloak is not good as they have vampiric, completely negated
Evasion is only better than armor if you have ~12 armor already. Anything else is a fundamental misunderstanding of math.
Christians told me to choose what's right then got mad at me for it.
Grubby, you need to play Dota as a core player to understand how many bad decisions you've made with spells and items. Almost every time you lose, it's because of this.
For example, Ts needed his Q ability; why sell Flame Guard? Sell a ring and buy evasion. Dark Pact for DK? No Orb until almost the end? And much more.
Your decision-making with heroes is consistently weak.
Where's your videos waiting to be critiqued?
grubby i love your content so mutch
Suggestion for a topic of conversation: Which unit adds the most power per tile?
Probably hippogryph rider. But you basically never run out of space (even if the game goes on for an hour), so it's unlikely to be meaningful
@@thesustraveler You're probably right and since I don't play DC, it's more a theoretic problem.
is there some kind of negative traid when upgrading a goldmine?
it seems that Grubby dont use all the mines even after 35 minutes of gameplay.
isnt income the first thing to max no matter what?
You have to spend to money to make money. Not only does the last mine take a long time to pay for itself(the game could very well end before it even pays off), but that money could have gone towards units, items, tech up, upgrades. etc to keep your team on their side of the map for center control income. You could end up losing your team 20 income (10 gold each while you go neutral until it pays off) and giving the enemy team +30 income because you went 4th mine.
Yes. The main tradeoff is you lose control of mid, which gives one mine's worth of income to everyone on the team that controls mid.
So you making mines cedes control of mid in an otherwise equal game. And once your opponents are stronger, they TOO can get a mine and will maintain mid. So you getting early mines can just screw over your team because your opponent beats you, leaks to the next wave and disrupts them, and causes them to lose.
why 0.7s to pick a hero?
Dream ghouls army
does not work
because you dont believe enough!
How did grubby know he had to kill ghouls in the draft?
as an eastern european I can say that it would be weird if you did not look me in the eye while toasting. It is a little bit offensive, but also a cultural thing I guess.
Got a game start with 4 footmans with atk ipgrade against 4 ghouls no upgrades and still lost 😭
grubby streams on youtube??????????????
Real men vote.
kotg with thorns aura (rather than dk) would've made a huge difference. Of course, you had no time to choose lol. Just crazy to think about how decisions made in a fraction of a second have long term implications (irl too). I always enjoy your videos, Grub! You sounded like Jordan Peterson for a bit there haha!
The memes won
16:30 im from Bulgaria and this sheet pisses me off 😂
Same here.
fellow bulgarian here too ♥
Grubby addicted to new game, Directer strike. The game automatically calculates who will win based on their draft and the game ends.
Since Grubby is dutch, he enjoys how much more direct this game mode is.
wtf are you able to do with your eyes oO
Appreciate the kind words towards your Catholic/Christian school. That's how it's supposed to be. Most people don't have correct image and just think we are overbearing when it is the exact opposite. It's just good moral values. It's a guide for everyone to be good people, Catholic means universal.
does anyone happen to know how to scan opponents' base
Your Town Hall has a reveal at T2 for 25g
20 k units even if weak is just to much igeuss
Harstem is good but he is old now, no -- longer pro level, if he is still considered a pro he is bottom tier like anyone better than him is a pro. he would beat me 2/3 consistently but i could wear him down and change that to 1.8/3 then be a pro in sc2 with a few months. Just does not tickle my fancy being the lowest skilled "pro" I guess the same reason you retired if that makes sense.
Fiend vs guoul :((
❤
His brain is an extremely disciplined piece of gray mass btw (it’s gray matter) lol
How to check mmr
Enough with the click bait captions
can you donate gold in ds?
No, thank god. Else third lane's role would be exactly that
No
i've been watching grubby so much and he's so entertaining to watch. Can someone gift me this game so i can play this too? 😂
Its 10€
@@rasin9391 Where can you buy Warcraft 3 for 10 euro? XD
Activision-Blizzard doesn't sell bulk keys and haven't done since 2018.
@@rasin9391Where?
@@rasin9391 really.. i thought its 30$ above or something.. but still, 10€ cost a lot in my country 😂
Oh so you like making fun of a Slavic think huh
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