In volume one of his memoirs he stated that timmy mallet was his idol until Evans worked for him. He described mallet as an obnoxious boss and something of a bully.
Just discovered your channel great stuff, intelligent critique delivered with the suitable level of dry derision. You got skills mate, good luck with the channel.
All I can think is we must have been so starved of entertainment in the mid 90’s to find Chris funny. Admittedly he was an anarchic presence on Big Breakfast so you couldn’t begrudge him this success but it turned out there just wasn’t much behind it.
There’s definitely a grubby sheen on all these old programmes, with the scandals that happened subsequently, and what you hear about the ‘open secrets’ and the poor victims afraid to say anything. Even with people who weren’t involved in hugely bad things, like Evans, but were still a bit dodgy, you look at the power dynamic they had over people, just for being famous celebrities. Makes you feel a bit icky.
I remember that camera in the toilet thing was done to her because it was an idea they had come up with where it would be done to members of the public and she'd said they couldn't do it. So they did it to her.
Her personality, though, like... cynically wholesome. Like she does a really good impression of being a nice ordinary lass, but then she's getting 'em out to bootstrap her awful career as someone who doesn't have any talent or charisma yet is on TV all the sodding time. Like a Blue Peter presenter but with plastic tits.
Gosh this is like Nuremberg for lad culture. I saw all this but didn't get it. I can understand why women are so pissed off nowadays. I'm not even woke.
It started off as a movement that was either ironically pastiching that culture, or else using that as an excuse to actually act like bellends. But within five minutes everyone in mediocre TV and publishing decided that if everyone acts like they're Sid James, they'll somehow make loads of money. And they did.
Didn’t realise it at the time and maybe it’s easier with hindsight, but TFI really was odious, uncomfortable television. A Loaded magazine but on TV literal freak show (freak or unique, ugly bloke), where Evans basically flirted with attractive, busty women. And of course there was Lindsey Dawn McKenzie on They Think It’s All Over, Denise Van Outen getting ogled daily on Big Breakfast, Fantasy Football, Ulrika downing that pint on Shooting Stars…..however much I love Vic and Bob, Shooting Stars could often veer into that ‘Cool Britannia’ lad culture too. At least we also had golden age Simpsons, Father Ted, Alan Partridge, The Fast Show, Stella Street and Frasier at the same time.
And let’s not forget Evans on TFI presiding over a staring competition where children would compete to win a holiday for their family, leaving the losing child in tears. Unbelievable
Bottom with Rik and Ade showed you could make toilet humour, cvm jokes and all, with nuance and charm😎 Also I am particularly fond of Alexei Sayle's Merry-Go-Round and The All New Alexei Sayle Show series 1 and 2
Vic and Bob were amazing on Big Night Out, but went to piss pretty much straight after. The whole "Morecambe and Wise" thing as well was very baffling. Either they ran out of ideas or just stopped putting the work in, when they realised they could just shout "CAULIFLOWER!" and a load of mediocre twats would be thrilled and amazed by what geniuses they were. My personal theory blames Bob's coke habit, because he acted entirely like his life must depend on the stuff. Vic too probably, but Bob was always worse and more cynical. More crap, really, and more incredibly pleased with himself for it.
@@greenaum I agree up to a point, Big Night Out was amazing, but for me their absolute high point was their next show - The Smell Of Reeves and Mortimer. Absolutely the best thing they ever did. But yeah, although Shooting Stars COULD be very good, it could also be very hit and miss, and also the jokes were very, very repetitive, and it was never in the same league as Big Night Out or Smell of Reeves and Mortimer. Have never understood why Shooting Stars is generally seen as their definitive programme.
I know what you mean about the absurd incongruity of censoring 'naughty words' whilst also showing quite explicit images and even openly discussing very adult themes. Didn't Grade A talk about that in his recent video?
2.46 - LWT building on the BBC! Anyone still play this game? Not that I take it seriously you understand. Like TVS's studios appearing in series 1 of Howards Way, or LWT appearing in Man About The House. Or [shut up you fool - Ed]
Bloke was well-known for being an egomaniac, to the extent that people know water is wet. They presumably couldn't prosecute without the producer agreeing to cooperate, and she knew what her job and future career were worth, especially with the ginger man-god in his prime. He apparently could be a right petty, nasty little twat on the quiet.
All his shows were exhausting crap. Forced hysteria and musical interludes. As an 11 year old viewer it made me hate humanity and not want to participate in adult life.
Watching this, I was reminded of that clip of William G. Stewart talking about how he and his production staff would hype up the audience of The Price is Right with vulgar patriotism and booze, before turning the cameras on... Just looked up Don't Forget Your Toothbrush on Wikipedia and yup... it was a W.G Stewart joint... And he seemed like such a fuddy duddy on Fifteen to One.
I like your videos but I can't help but think that your analysis of Evans is very unfair. He was the change that the industry needed. Look at the state of TV presenters before him. Matthew Kelly, Bobby Davro, Noel Edmonds etc. Only the boomers found them entertaining because they were bought up on such tripe. Evans bought a new energy to the scene that was fresh, original and risqué. He should be viewed as a TV pioneer whether you agreed with his ideas or not.
Davro wasn't much of a presenter to be fair, and the laddish ironic detachment was just another form of shite, albeit aimed at our generation. It's all aged in dog years.
The smart thing Evans did was realise the Mallet crowd had grown up and had disposable income and a thirst for an adult version.
Love these, keep them coming, there’s always a line that makes me properly laugh and this time it was “this show is like a stag do at Jones town”!!
In volume one of his memoirs he stated that timmy mallet was his idol until Evans worked for him. He described mallet as an obnoxious boss and something of a bully.
@@markdaly1648 Isn't that a claim (along with a bit of sexual harassment) leveled at Evans too?
I was reading your comment exactly as Stuart said that!
Jim royle on Chris Evans in the late nineties 'he's everywhere like shit in a field'
You know lookin back at it Chris Evans is a lot more Partridge than I realised. And much creepier with the toilet thing…
That toilet thing was messed up
One flush all gone
Partridge on coke
As Stu says ‘Hidden camera’ is prison time these days but was just ‘top bantz’ and totally ‘way-hey’ in 1994.
Cmon, the moment when everyone realised they were going on holiday was genuinely exhilarating.
Just discovered your channel great stuff, intelligent critique delivered with the suitable level of dry derision. You got skills mate, good luck with the channel.
Yes, viewers, that's boogers up my nose, not half a kilo of gak.
All I can think is we must have been so starved of entertainment in the mid 90’s to find Chris funny. Admittedly he was an anarchic presence on Big Breakfast so you couldn’t begrudge him this success but it turned out there just wasn’t much behind it.
"Stag-do at Jonestown" is one hell of a band name.
There’s definitely a grubby sheen on all these old programmes, with the scandals that happened subsequently, and what you hear about the ‘open secrets’ and the poor victims afraid to say anything. Even with people who weren’t involved in hugely bad things, like Evans, but were still a bit dodgy, you look at the power dynamic they had over people, just for being famous celebrities. Makes you feel a bit icky.
I used to watch TFI when I was 13. I feel like I was about the right age for it. Maybe a bit too old.
Holy shit the hidden camera in the toilet part. Wow.
Just a bit of banter!
@@cartoonhead9222 Yes it was all in good fun, and definitely not a gross abuse of trust and probably very illegal
Guessing she always dressed up very smart never expecting to appear on screen that week…
Until now, I’d only ever heard about the DFYT producer-on-the-toilet jape, and it’s somehow a thousand times even worse than I’d imagined.
I remember that camera in the toilet thing was done to her because it was an idea they had come up with where it would be done to members of the public and she'd said they couldn't do it. So they did it to her.
Jeez, and I thought Barrymore's audiences were a shrieking mass of dementedness. Genuinely disturbing.
As my Grandad said "He always does something new".
my favourite programme on Channel 4 (6 yrs old in 1993) then was 4-Tel On View. 😜
I'm sure Chumbawamba had a good long encounter session after performing on Chris Evans, where they scourged themselves for taking money from The Man.
Melinda is now a very serious presenter and you must never remember this… I admit to forgetting how hot she was.
But they were very beautiful. I'll leave you to consider what the 'but' actually means.
Her personality, though, like... cynically wholesome. Like she does a really good impression of being a nice ordinary lass, but then she's getting 'em out to bootstrap her awful career as someone who doesn't have any talent or charisma yet is on TV all the sodding time. Like a Blue Peter presenter but with plastic tits.
Love the Bad Boyes theme at the beginning, thought I was the only one that watched that 😃
I liked the Christmas jumper
Chris Evans was on TV before Big Breakfast. He was on BSB (pre-Sky merger) Power Station doing a morning show with puppets and music videos.
I hope he washed his hands after touching the chipolatas
Gosh this is like Nuremberg for lad culture. I saw all this but didn't get it. I can understand why women are so pissed off nowadays. I'm not even woke.
It started off as a movement that was either ironically pastiching that culture, or else using that as an excuse to actually act like bellends. But within five minutes everyone in mediocre TV and publishing decided that if everyone acts like they're Sid James, they'll somehow make loads of money. And they did.
If I have to hear the opening notes to Sleigh Ride again I'll be committed
I liked 1997-98. Chris Evans always seemed like he was on ecstacy .
Booze and coke, the effects can be similar on a surface level. Plus he wouldn't have been such an unbearable knobhead on E.
@@greenaumI'd say he'd be even worse lol
Frank Skinner - genius
Man, I’m stunned they filmed in that birds loo
the budget for this show must have been off the fucking charts
Didn’t realise it at the time and maybe it’s easier with hindsight, but TFI really was odious, uncomfortable television. A Loaded magazine but on TV literal freak show (freak or unique, ugly bloke), where Evans basically flirted with attractive, busty women. And of course there was Lindsey Dawn McKenzie on They Think It’s All Over, Denise Van Outen getting ogled daily on Big Breakfast, Fantasy Football, Ulrika downing that pint on Shooting Stars…..however much I love Vic and Bob, Shooting Stars could often veer into that ‘Cool Britannia’ lad culture too. At least we also had golden age Simpsons, Father Ted, Alan Partridge, The Fast Show, Stella Street and Frasier at the same time.
And let’s not forget Evans on TFI presiding over a staring competition where children would compete to win a holiday for their family, leaving the losing child in tears. Unbelievable
Bottom with Rik and Ade showed you could make toilet humour, cvm jokes and all, with nuance and charm😎 Also I am particularly fond of Alexei Sayle's Merry-Go-Round and The All New Alexei Sayle Show series 1 and 2
Vic and Bob were amazing on Big Night Out, but went to piss pretty much straight after. The whole "Morecambe and Wise" thing as well was very baffling. Either they ran out of ideas or just stopped putting the work in, when they realised they could just shout "CAULIFLOWER!" and a load of mediocre twats would be thrilled and amazed by what geniuses they were.
My personal theory blames Bob's coke habit, because he acted entirely like his life must depend on the stuff. Vic too probably, but Bob was always worse and more cynical. More crap, really, and more incredibly pleased with himself for it.
@@greenaum I agree up to a point, Big Night Out was amazing, but for me their absolute high point was their next show - The Smell Of Reeves and Mortimer. Absolutely the best thing they ever did. But yeah, although Shooting Stars COULD be very good, it could also be very hit and miss, and also the jokes were very, very repetitive, and it was never in the same league as Big Night Out or Smell of Reeves and Mortimer. Have never understood why Shooting Stars is generally seen as their definitive programme.
@@sambwoy3Agreed, Lex was brilliant
Stag do at Jonestown!!! 🤣Amazing
I know what you mean about the absurd incongruity of censoring 'naughty words' whilst also showing quite explicit images and even openly discussing very adult themes. Didn't Grade A talk about that in his recent video?
2.46 - LWT building on the BBC! Anyone still play this game? Not that I take it seriously you understand. Like TVS's studios appearing in series 1 of Howards Way, or LWT appearing in Man About The House. Or [shut up you fool - Ed]
He put hidden cameras in his producers toilet...?!
Bloke was well-known for being an egomaniac, to the extent that people know water is wet.
They presumably couldn't prosecute without the producer agreeing to cooperate, and she knew what her job and future career were worth, especially with the ginger man-god in his prime. He apparently could be a right petty, nasty little twat on the quiet.
There was nothing else on.
So so true
Oh shut up. You loved it back then. We all did
All his shows were exhausting crap. Forced hysteria and musical interludes.
As an 11 year old viewer it made me hate humanity and not want to participate in adult life.
He stole his entire act from the great Ray Cokes, even stealing key members of Ray's crew (Will)
Roy Wood
Not Nobby Holder
The pre-watershed swear word always seemed like a cheap stunt to be controversial and gain publicity. Of course they'd opologise a lot.
Watching this, I was reminded of that clip of William G. Stewart talking about how he and his production staff would hype up the audience of The Price is Right with vulgar patriotism and booze, before turning the cameras on...
Just looked up Don't Forget Your Toothbrush on Wikipedia and yup... it was a W.G Stewart joint...
And he seemed like such a fuddy duddy on Fifteen to One.
Look up his search history and I bet you’d find ‘fifteen to one’ 😉
7:41 Hilarious!
Oh man, that Putin joke :)
evans did TV mayhem before big brekky.
how the f--k did he marry billie piper ffs
She also married Laurence Fox so there is definitely something fundamentally wrong with her. At least she had the sense to divorce them both I guess.
Look at the state of what you two ended up with tho!
I like your videos but I can't help but think that your analysis of Evans is very unfair. He was the change that the industry needed. Look at the state of TV presenters before him. Matthew Kelly, Bobby Davro, Noel Edmonds etc. Only the boomers found them entertaining because they were bought up on such tripe. Evans bought a new energy to the scene that was fresh, original and risqué. He should be viewed as a TV pioneer whether you agreed with his ideas or not.
I don’t like Evans but I totally agree with you, it was different and hated by boomers which made us like it more…..back then
Davro wasn't much of a presenter to be fair, and the laddish ironic detachment was just another form of shite, albeit aimed at our generation. It's all aged in dog years.
No.. Evans' trick was to make us all think he was doing something new, but it was just the same old shit done just faster.
It is possible for more multiple disappointing facts to be true at once 🤷
Evans > Edmunds ?
Whoever wins, we lose.
🤢
Least the ads were non diverse.
Could have been interesting and funny. But actually it's just a bit boring and pointless.
I would call this Coke TV.