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The REED bearing Depth adjuster (Howard adjuster) can take a premium plane and make it feel that much better! this is an adjuster that is commonly found on Lienealson block planes and Record shoulder planes. the problem with the original is the adjuster can cause lateral movement and often has a good bit of slop. if you use a bearing it removes the slop and the lateral movement.
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I agree with all of your comments, I do believe that the critic should be passed along to Lie Nielsen!!
I do agree that quality tools just makes things easier. My favorite tool is the dinner fork. Good video
Thanks James for the video and your support. I am glad to be able to bring back to the market such a desired upgrade to a great tool. Just blown away from all the orders that have been placed. You guys always surprise me. Working hard to fill them and if the supply chain is kind to us I will drop what I am doing to get the orders filled.
This would be great for a No° 102 and there’s a larger pool of potential customers for the 102 also. Just an idea 💡. I’m already super happy with the new adjuster and have one on my No°60-1/2R and on my No°97. Thank you and look forward to seeing the great things you do going forward 👍
Update: I bought two and they arrived today, one for my No° 60-1/2R and one for my No° 97. I thought there was an outside chance it would work with my No° 102, but no bueno; so good thing I didn’t buy three. Makes backlash nearly nonexistent for both the 60-1/2R and 97👍. You’ll still need to back off & tension the cap on the 60-1/2 as you do normally (a very important task given it’s a rabbeting plane and they are easy to ruin if mistreated) but movement is smoother and the No° 97 adjusts like butter. If Reed were to make one for the No° 102 however, I think there’s an even larger market for them as there are far more of them ‘In the wild‘ than there are 60-1/2’s or 97’s. I’m glad I made the purchase and hope there’ll be one made for the No° 102 (often referred to as an apron plane, but is really just a perfect sized low angle block plane in bronze; not as versatile I guess as the 60-1/2R, but I’d take it over a regular 60-1/2 any day and use it more than even my Veritas DX-60)❤
So glad your happy and thanks for your support. I will look into the 102!
@@reedplanes728 ❤️ The notch is the same and I think you could possibly get away with the same barrel/knurling size; though it is smaller than the current offering. Otherwise, I think if the post threads were the same, I’d buy a third one to use on it until a smaller offering made for it appeared. The only small L-N Tools I use are the 60-1/2R, 97, and 102; the Veritas DX-60 is just so much better than the standard L-N No° 60-1/2, so it’s the odd ball of the block planes in my chest. I haven’t tried your frog adjustment plates yet, but I do have an old Stanley No° 3 that I use on occasion that I may give it a whirl with. I’ve already got a second frog in 50° for my L-N No° 4 and really think I’d probably leave that Stanley No° 3 set up in that higher angle permanently if I had it. So maybe with my January ‘allowance’ 🤣. As for the support, often the most powerful vote we have is with our dollar and I’m all for any person who’s willing to take the risks and expend the energies to do their own thing. As an example, my Hovarter Vises are still one of the best purchases I’ve ever made (I had them before James did, so maybe he copied me 🧐🤪). Have a great one brother!
@@reedplanes728 please make one for the 102. These are just absolutely awesome!!!.
@@maheshchander03 So glad you like the adjuster. The 102 is under consideration
What a shame for $200 block plane to have that shortcoming. Looking forward to the prototype reveal.
Excellent video. wish I could afford the block plane too!
Why didn’t you wait to get the reed version of the block plane instead of byeing the lieneilson?
I am only 13 byt i love woodworking and love your videos
I’m 14 and I’m the same! Hope you keep up your woodworking Journey!
Hi. Just came across you today. What a fantastic idea,to upgrade my L/H. Would you be attending Handwork’s this month. (End of August) I would like bye 5 I am coming from England just for the show and would love to bye 5. Curtis
I will be there. send me an email and we can work something out. you can find the email in the about tab on the channel page. or the contact form on my website.
Nice stuff, thanks. Lie Nielsen should be ashamed that you have to buy an after market part to get the plane to perform to the point of putting a smile on your face as a happy customer. They make very high end products and that is what they are in business to do.
Just spent the day using my block plane… and my 62…. And this wonderful depth adjuster…. Just luxurious… happiness
Thanks, that is great to hear.
Mine isn't loose at all maybe mine is a one off but my block plane is quite tight
It works with the Orange Jorgensen 60 1/2 from LOWES. It’s a whole new plane now.
sweet thanks for the info!
Damn it! Now I can’t watch this…. Ok ima still watch it
I also just got my LN 60-1/2 rabbet plane two days ago. I didn't feel the need for the adjuster, but I ordered it anyway. I can't resist brass.
This bearing depth adjuster fits fine on my #62 LA Jack without any modification. However, both my 60-1/2 and 60-1/2 R required that I open up the slot in the blade for the bearing to fit. The one problem I've found is that the knurled knob of this new adjuster is bigger in diameter than the original and scrapes the body of my 60-1/2 when advancing the blade. Doesn't have that issue with the 60-1/2 R.
We are finding there is a larger variance in the slots for the LN irons. Even in the same sizes. As far as I can tell it is about 1 out of 10 is a shade to narrow. Thanks for the feedback!
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Only needed to remove two or three thousands for the bearing to push in tight. I will probably remove just a little more metal so that I'm certain that the bearing sits fully in the slot and the blade seats properly.
Any idea when this will be back in stock?
We are hoping to have the next batch mid Jan. If you put in the back order now you can make sure to be in that batch.
Helping by making a comment. Yay!
This is the return of the comment down there ;)
Pretty interesting indeed, James! 😃
Looking forward to those planes!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Unrelated, but you know of any router planes that have wide blades (1") and can reach depths of 2" or is it just best to use a large timber chisel? My block plane is just smaller enough to fit inside but not to enough to comfortable use or get at the inner sides of a mortise I am cutting.
I do not know of any that big. usually at that point you just just use chisel bevel down. Or if it is that large you bring in a block plane.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo , gotcha. Thanks
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I just purchased several block antics plains, from an auction company online: stanley; sergent; craftman; uknown? ... will the new adjuster work on old plains! .... if you would take the time to look into this. I and We The Few ..will be happy ..OORAH!! DEEMAN.
I don't know of any old block planes that use this adjuster. They all use very different mechanism. But I haven't seen all of them so there might be some out there that do.
I have one of the L-N rabbeting block planes - lightly used - I'd say I've had it for at least 5 years. And I've ordered one of the Depth Adjusters. Mine does NOT rattle like yours - it's nice and tight (did you try tightening the large adjuster in the cap iron?). I don't know if this is luck-of-the-draw, or yours is older/newer than mine and L-N tweaked the design or maybe its just normal wear and tear. I have noticed that changing the depth screw does skew the iron a bit (so the new adjuster is well worth it). I can't fathom how L-N would miss skewing the iron, or rattling as the plane gets broken in, this just so obvious. First time I've ever any issue at all about L-N's quality over time. And I've long wished for a fence on this plane (it would consolidate about 3 planes in my "grab and go-kit" ) - I notice Henry Eckert sells just that. Oh - this is going to cost me!!!! EDIT: I'd give them a call (they are always helpful).
I like, no, I love my cheap Defiance planes and they work well for me, but every once in a while I will splurge or just buy something different like my Japanese plane that Rex did a video on ( love it by the way and for the price it rocks ). That being said, it would have been a nice touch to see you actually use your $200 block plane and take some shavings... with Christmas coming I could have showed this to the wife and who knows, I could also enjoy the expensive shiny toy also, just saying...
I ordered your new knob. Should I have received it by now?
If you didn't make it into the first batch then it's still on backorder. The second batch is going out sometime around the 1st of February. If you're in the third batch, I'm not sure when those are coming. Is the amount we originally imagined selling in the first month? We ended up selling in the first couple hours.
You are going to really enjoy your new plane! Like you it is the first LN plane I purchased and find myself reaching for it more than any other.
About 5 years ago, I spent close to $300 on a LN #5. Best $300 I ever spent. It is my "go to tool" that I use for shooting board, edge joining, smoothing, chamfering and everything else. I love it.
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Could you make a video using the plane? I love the looks of the plane and give me enough money and I would purchase one as well!
The real question is.... Do they fit the juuma planes? *wink* *wink*
Do they make something like this that would fit a LN 4 1/2????
The standard bench planes use a very different system. So there's no need for a bearing. However REED planes also sells a fine adjuster that works for them. ruclips.net/video/XGRlUslXOFY/видео.html
@@WoodByWrightHowTo I want to get rid of the slop in the adjuster
Sweet!
I actually have the Sargent 507 that is the same plane. Doesn't have the nicker on the side. But it's a great little plane.
Ooh, I hate the adjuster on my LN 7 1/2. Same crappy adjuster as your block plane. Are all the slots on the LN planes the same width? This would be a nice addition to take that plane all the way.
The only issue I see is that a press fit removes all lateral adjustment, so you better be keeping your plane blades perfectly square.
yes all of the LN block planes with this adjuster are the same as far as I have found. surprisingly you can still laterally adjust them it just takes a bit more force.
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All ready out of stock
Yeah it sold out within a couple hours. Apparently the demand is a good bit higher than we thought. If you want one you probably better put an order in now we are ordering another batch that should be available mid January but the next batch after that probably won't be until march.
Don't worry, Sarah will understand.
THANK YOU and Henry Eckhart tools. Australia has politicians. Our politicians have decided we should be a dumb country selling raw materials overseas. We punch well above our weight in inventions and then sell them to US, UK or anyone to develop because if it can't be grown or dug up goodbye. In order to compete against third world countries we have to keep the Aussie dollar low against the US dollar. If you think Veritas and Lie Nielsen are expensive in the US try paying close to double. So thank you for mentioning Henry Eckhart I had no idea he existed I have now found one of my lust list that is now within reach just not immediately.
Glad I get introduce you. They're actually several good Australian tool makers. H&t does a lot of good things though they tend to focus more on wooden body planes
@@WoodByWrightHowTo HNT Gordon also make some absolutely premium vises. Their wooden planes are not cheap even in Australia from time to time second hand planes come on the market but, since I have no experience using wooden planes I am reluctant to punt that much money on a tool I may not be able to use to its full potential. Once upon a time, before Reagan and Free Trade, Australia had The Great Tariff Wall and we made some really good quality metal body planes and perversely because we were a small market it wasn't worth trading quality for very marginal increase it profits. So you can find a Pope, Falcon Pope or a Turner post WW2 made the same year as an US Stanley and the Australian plane is better. Any way if a vintage Australian plane ever turns up a one of your meets stop for a second and have a good look.
Lie nelson the yuppies big dollar robbery
David Eckert is the man behind all the brilliance. I believe the company is named after his son, Henry. I have his uber cool Marking Guage, trammel setup and it was worth every cent of the $500 plus I paid for it.
Just like a band, all things must brass! LOL. Love that plane, can't wait to see the Reed version. Although I suspect I won't be able to afford that either. Lol.
I have a 9 1/2 like yours that I also love. I don't love how rattly everything is, though. The lateral adjuster is loose, the depth adjuster post is kind of wobbly. Any ideas for making this feel better?
those tend to get looser and looser with use an the years. but they were never very tight to begin with. that is one of the down sides of using a $5-20 plane.
My 9 1/2 post got loose too. I ended up coating the post with a little jb weld and put the post back in. Obviously mine is a user plane and not collectable.
I might be just a tiny amount insane but the lie Nielsen is my ONLY block plane.😬😬😬
It's amazing.
i would love your review on kunz 4+ plane, just ordered it yesterday. It is supposed be as close as you can get to veritas level plane out of the box with much lower price. Also, are you considering showing modern wooden smoothers? They were all I had when i started and feel like they are a bit overlooked.
I have never used the kunz bench planes they are almost impossible to get here in the US. and that is the same with modern wooden planes. you can order them but they are crazy expensive here for what you get. I would love to some day though.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo I get it, my wooden smoother cost 38 USD, 60cm long jointer cost me 64USD. They needed a ton of work, but for the price it was still a good deal. There just inst much information online on the tools that I reasonably can get in Europe, opposed to bazillion of videos on tools that are priced reasonably in the US. I've had A LOT of trial and error this way.
Thank you for sharing!
Nice upgrade.
I was looking endlessly for something like this. I’ve an 073 and a 60 1/2 that have the same annoying issue. It takes a bit to adjust the lateral to then advance de iron and lose the adjustment. This is it, I just got myself 2 of these depth adjusters!!!! Thanks James!!
Make sure to keep your blades sharpened to a perfect square. If you're a hand sharpener, that might be a pain. The press fit style means the blade will be fixed in place perpendicular to the adjuster screw, with no ability to adjust laterally. Start squaring up those irons during shipping, and enjoy your new toy. :) I might snag one, too.
@@MortimerSugarloaf Right on! I use a honing guide, it suits my obsessive nature of “millimetric” perfection, but I didn’t thought that much of the iron squareness affecting the lateral, it makes sense. Thank you Collin!
you can still adjust it side to side. it just takes a bit more force.
Oh my, oh my!!!!!
Love your videos can you maybey get a no 1 stanley plane
like this. ruclips.net/video/nsivK-NGpEE/видео.html thanks man!
Will that work for the Stanley or the LN only?
I don't think Stanley ever used this adjuster. though I might be wrong.
Sounds good and worth a try.
Received my REED bearing knob for my Lie Nielsen 60 1/2 adj mouth plane and it is wicked tight adjustment, no slop what soever, magic.
Pretty impressed with the stuff Reed is making...keep it up!
So glad I can make tools that people like. Thanks!
Totally sold me on this until I see the price. 😥
The little slop is actually necessary as it allows lateral adjustment especially for a rabbet block plane unless one can sharpen exactly 90° to the sides of the blade all the time. However if the slot in the blade is shaped like a Preston 1391 spokeshave that uses a thumb press lateral adjuster then maybe I would agree
You can still laterally adjust just like before with the press fit. It is a bearing not a solid steel end
There's a reason the L-N adjuster is made of steel and is a little sloppy. You'll find that the brass one is going to wear down quickly since it is a press-fit, esp. if you keep the knuckle cap tight. A little machine oil should help slow the wear tho'.
The bearing that actually fits into the slot is steel. It doesn't spin in the slot it's a bearing. The section that is press fit stays in that spot of the iron. So there's far less wear on this than there would be in the original one.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Ah. I was a little confused by what you meant by "bearing". I was thinking of "bearing surface". I watched the video again on the big screen and I see it was a ball bearing. Way cool. I've got mostly wooden planes, tho' I do have a 60-1/2, 9-1/2, and 101 block planes. If I used the 60-1/2 enough, I'd definitely be interested in getting one. I mostly use the 101. As it is tho', I'm planning on making wooden replacements for my block planes and going all wood.
So, the plane in its original state is junk (according to our standards).
I did not say that at all. It is a fantastic plane and I absolutely love it it's just one nitpicky fit and finish that there's a solution to fix. There's a reason I have wanted the plane for years. Every time I've used one I've enjoyed it.