Foot notes that I would like to add: the outer barrel needs to be modified, as Marui spec outers have a smaller and shallower gap for the frame cam. The spring on the rotor is redundant per my experience, I remove it on my SAI G17 to reduce friction even more (the spring is too stiff on mine to work properly as a zero hammer) Magwells don't fit properly, you will need either file or tape to have it fit properly. A marui spec slide and bbu will fit, however it does not engage the trigger disconnct properly meaning you cannot release the hammer with that slide on.
I have bought a green gas SA G17 match (with a fire selector located inside, after the hammer) recently, it lasted me 3 games before the hammer decided to randomly stop working, leaving it unable to shoot. Unfortunately here in italy spare parts for SA are very rare to find, most shops have them out of stock
for shell extractor, yes its seperate i believe and also for real steel sights. Unfornately, I myself have never owned a set of real steel sights and installed them onto stark arms before. I'm actually not a big fan of doing that cos the metal on the stark arms I think it will give out really easily if i decide to tap a real iron sight into it. best regards, RS087
i think you undercut the trigger guard a little too much. under stress, it’s more liable to crack or fracture. but besides that, it’s very good stippling work! good job dude
Also regardless of where the selector switch is on my gun it shoots full auto, I like the accuracy and how snappy it shoots but the whole not being able to use semi auto and extreme gas inefficiency is so sad.
unfornately without custom tuning it, there's nothing you can do. I know this is a very vague answer and the reason is simply because a lot of custom work (not parts) is required to fix the issues you are having, which requires a lot of learning and a lot of... time. There's lots of post on forums and on fb groups you can read up to learn it all but its a long read.
I know you explained the fitment issues for tm slides on a stark arms glock but i want to know if its possible to install a stark arms sai slide on a we g19?
basically not possible. Have to : - change outer barrel to a TM one - buy a stark arms nozzle, bbu the whole seutp for the stark arms slide. Cannot use TM internals. - must be using a TM 18c or any copies of this system. like WE G18, etc etc - no other way around this.
Hello Rogue, so the hammer on my SA g17 Combat SuperGrade "finally" broke, and I'm looking to replace it. I was wondering if I could replace my entire hammer housing(along with the parts inside) for a TM spec hammer housing? I've already replaced the BBU and nozzle with a g18c UAC BBU and nozzle, so the TM spec hammer housing should interact well with those. I don't mind filing and sanding the hammer housing a bit to fit it inside, but do you have any idea as to whether it is at all possible?
@@fdwnt293 I bought an full APS hammer assembly and tried to fit it inside my SA17 grip, but there were simply too many areas that didn't fit. The housing was sitting 0,5-1 mm too high in the grip, even after a lot of filing. On top of that, the auto sear got stuck on the bbu, leading to it not cycling (even manually), and I don't remember if I ever pinpointed the exact reason for it. In the end I bought a steel hammer made for the SA17, made by azimuth, I think. Ever since I put the new hammer in, the gun has acted inconsistently at times, as if it didn't hit the output valve on the magazine with the same force every time(tested on SA mags and APS mags, both CO2). Til;dr ended up buying an SA spec hammer, as the TM spec hammer assembly proved too troublesome.
Hey bud. If I purchase a WE G26 gas pistol, am I able to upgrade to a metal slide that has the official Glock grades...? Or would I save myself some trouble to juSt order the TM version....? I ask because I have found. a WE G26 for $64, and was thinking to hvae the full GLOCK trades, I could maybe purchase JUST the slide from TM ( or maybe another company that produces the slide with the trades), any advice....? Are ANY of the manufacturers that use REAL steel on the slides and they also have the REAL Glock trademark, and not just the “G”..... Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated! :)
Why does my Stark Arms Glock 19 slide wobbles from side to side? Is that normal? It also wobbles when I hold the pistol and shake my hand. Is something loose inside?
Hey, I was thinking about buying a Stark Arms. Now I'm not so sure, as reliability is a key for me, yet so is owning a GLOCK. Is a WE Glock or other a better substitute or should I stick with buying an Elite Force M1911 TAC (Old Reliable, never Break). Also maybe any other suggestions for a pistol to buy? I like fire selection, (fully auto/semi/burst). Also, amazing vid, so well informed. Maybe I should just buy a Tokyo Marui with a Metal Slide upgrade?
STM Polaris Hmm i honestly think whatever system you understand best and willing to maintain is the system that you go for. It appears that people don’t mind using Stark arms as their base gun for their builds but for me i prefer TM just cos i find its a little bit more flexible in the choices that i have for aftermarket, technical support, and availability. I think if you live in the US, its a little difficult for you guys to use glocks in general so i think maybe stick to something that airsoft stores near u will support, like the umarex pistols, your elite force pistols (i’m not sure what elite force is) etc etc. If i have to give a reconmmendation, i would choose the KSC / KWA M9s or the HK45s, reason being the KSCs are difficult to take apart, yes, but they tend to work pretty well and replacing parts is not very frequent, and they do the job for a descent price (all things considered).
Rogue Studios Yea, we have a hard time getting Glock clones in the US, but not if we buy them direct from Asia. I can buy from JkArmy and get it here. So do you think if I buy the VFC/Stark Arms one, I can mod it well eneough to be a reliable sidearm for a couple years, if so do you know which parts to relplace? Also Elite a Force/Umarex just released a Glock Trademarked in the US but the consensus is that it is not as good as the European and Asian Marui and Stark Arms. (Also Elite Force is our Umarex basically) I originally was looking for an EBB pistol/msg as a sidearm. But I have seen that the Tokyo Marui variants are around $240 and hard to get upgrades for.
STM Polaris hmm i still think get whatever system you understand best and willing to maintain. Cos for the stark arms, some people dont like taking them apart and working on them, some domt like the proprietary stuff, i think maybe figure that out first. For example, in hong kong it makes more financial sense and logical sense to go with we or tm cos its not particular expensive and parts are readily available. The only reason why we dont use stark arms much cos we havw to order replaceament parts from taiwan or modify tmg18 parts to fit into stark arms and we also dont want to be trapped in a system with the other disadvantages that it has (thats too long for me to list). So ur gonna have to take a looksie to see what u prefer, The US market does appear to be getting ready to take in stark arms but it looks like its still ongoing atm. not sure how that will work out
hello! I now have a TM spec glock 19(glock 17 system), and i wanna install a vfc rmr slide onto it. I am thinking about using the vfc slide and a glock 17 spec rmr blowback unit. Would this work?
nope not able, no TM barrels will fit into stark arms without modification. The modification involves chopping up a lot of metal, so i suggest u avoid unless if you have a mill. Its definitely not doable with a file or a rotary tool so be care
What about the S18? I am considering running my S18 on CO2 (from what I have heard, then the S18 is mag compatible with the S17), would I need to invest in a new blowback housing, and/or loading nozzle?
Sorry, forgot to mention, the blowback housing, and nozzle would be the TM ones. Link to them Blowback housing (1): www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Other_WA_M4_Parts_UAC_Ultra_Lightweight_Blowback_Housing_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C.htm Blowback housing (2): www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Pistons_and_Cylinders_Guns_Modify_CNC_G18C_Blow_Back_Housing_Set_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C.htm Loading nozzle: www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Air_Nozzle_UAC_Aluminum_Loading_Nozzle_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C_GBB.htm
I can't get my Stark Arms Glock 19 to work so I'm just gonna say screw it and buy a TM Glock 19. Will my Stark Arms slide fit on the TM Glock? Will I need to upgrade anything to use green gas?
unfortunately complete different systems so stark slide will not work on tm :( (despite the fact that we can mod tm slides to fit stark arms (with a lot of effort)).
So, my friend recently got a Stark Arms, and it's shooting as far as an upgraded VSR-10. Is there any way to prevent the hammer from breaking? both left and right side of the table
Do you have a suggestion on how to reduce the trigger safety? I have a guns modify trigger and I feel like the trigger safety sticks out too much for my taste. Thanks!
you can adjust the trigger all the way back until the trigger safety hits the frame (so it can no longer stick out as much, it makes it look like this : ruclips.net/video/vk8h_eBW6ss/видео.html (check the one with the red safety, that is a gunsmodify standard trigger)
The trigger safety still sticks out the same even after adjusting the trigger all the way back. It's fine when the hammer is down but when it's cocked, it sticks out a fair bit. I guess there's no fix for it Btw, which recoil spring % do you prefer? Stock, 120 or 150?
I have two questions, maybe you can help me. Do glock22 TM magazines fit in glock17 TM? Another question, Does the slide of glock17TM fits in glock22 TM? thank you in advance!
glock 22 mags fit in TM G17 and all other TM glocks including 22, 34, 26, 26 advance, 19, and 17. Slide for TM G17 will fit on tm g22. However, you have one extra condisideration to think of which is highlighted in this video : ruclips.net/video/l-Si_nByZ7w/видео.html
np, u can get only regular tm g17 slide and just treat your G22 like a G17 (literally the same no difference.). The only difference is in the video i linked u ealrier about the trigger disconnect being stiffer on the g22 and g34 (otherwise, you have zero worries. Focus more on the slide you want to get and what problems it might have).
I'm sorry for bothering you again. I'm about to buy another Glock TM, I'm trying to decide between a glock17 or a glock18C. Do the magazines of my glock22 fit in the Glock18C? Which Glock model do you recommend most?
all mags for tm g17, 18c, 22, 34, their magazines are all cross compatible. Their magazinies can also fit in g26, 19 etc. For which glock model is best, I suggest just avoid TM G18c because its mainly for techs only. Its not an easy pistol to maintain and its not as easy to disassemble as the TM G17. And also, TM G18 uses an extra sear, called the full auto sear. It functions both in semi auto and full auto (its used in both cases, which makes understanding the pistol much more complicated than usual). Long story short, any TM G17 system is fine. TM G17, g22, g34, is all fine and i suggest u just stick to those.
Johnny Long yup, Umarex/EF glocks (all of them, exception of the C02/Springers/Non-blowbacks) = VFC/Stark Arms Gen 2 system with no G18c sear . Other minor differences > frame is less realistic on the umarex/EF version (cos u guys have different text, and also airsoft text) > Front chassis silver bit is slightly diff but same width so therefore not real noticeable difference. > Rotor has always been spring loaded since gen2, so no difference here even tho this has been noted to be a major difference for the Umarex/EF version. > Some minor changes to outer barrel, unknown reason, not sure myself.
Rogue Studios does all that you have stated before apply to the stark arms steel slide edition? If so, how would I make it more reliable? Thank you so much for the responses and information!
Johnny Long there is no stark arms steel edition, there's only stark arms with an aftermarket slide slapped on it but those to my understanding, are only available in taiwan and its either they have some in stock or don't have in stock (cos they are not made by stark arms factory). Since there's almost nothing you can do outside of doing custom modification, there's essentially nothing than average airsofter can do to make it work with a steel slide. (Unless if you really want to take the time to rebalance your spring system, gas efficiency, rocket valve output, blowback force optimization. All of which are normally done by a gunsmith). So the answer is essentially, nothing you can do, unless if you really want to invest in the tools and time. ( you can read up on those concepts if you wish, but its a long read).
back a long time ago in october 2015 i visited there and happened to make a pre-order with them. Their store is in ahkihabara right next to echigoya and they have no website as of right now. They are planning to sell to others soon i'm told (within this month its possible it might show up in boom arms) for around 500 HKD for just steel barrel. Threaded barrel versions are all gone :(
just depends on your personal preference. I do not bother differentiating them if i'm upgrading. If stock, then yes there is a difference in performance for certain obvious reasons. Like plastic slide vs metal slide. Soft hammer spring (TM) vs harder hammer spring (WE). Comparing these guns stock is not really worth comparing cos too very different situations. best regards. RS087
hmm around 900 to 1000 HKD which is around..... 130 USD? but due to the high demand, these things are always sold out and also they do not show up much on any websites :( if u want to get one, u probs have to find someone in your country can import these
Isaac Cheng not bad for upgrade, but i prefer WE as tm substitute. Kjw is tricky to work on for beginners sometimes, even i need time to get smooth in its stock configuration
What would you rate the quality, practicality and reliability of a stark arms glock 17 or 19 compared to a tokyo marui 17, 18 or 19? Looking for another skirmishable pistol and wondering which would be best.
The only thing I would ever use is a TM g17 system or any other pistol that uses the same system like a TM G19 (which has not been released yet). I honestly never once found the stark arms to be that great, not a very long lasting pistol, needs work for sure. best regards, RS087
RogueSystem087 Thank you so much, you have most definitely earned my sub. I'm looking forward to catching up on your uploads. I have a tm desert eagle but I may require a compact pistol too. So far the Deagle has really impressed me but something a bit smaller could be useful. Glocks seem perfect.
Lewis Hampson yeah, I have a fully marked Glock 19 from VFC Starkarms. It has all the markings and name. Metal slide and polymer, I don’t think they make these anymore and I have it for collectible but how much were you looking to buyV
Sure: but often out of stock. wgcshop.com/products?search_From=category&item=stark-arms-orignial-parts--metal-outer-barrel-for-s19-no-39&search=category&rs=Stark%20Arms%20Original%20Pistol%20Parts&catid=116&cat=887&view_choice=a
Foot notes that I would like to add:
the outer barrel needs to be modified, as Marui spec outers have a smaller and shallower gap for the frame cam.
The spring on the rotor is redundant per my experience, I remove it on my SAI G17 to reduce friction even more (the spring is too stiff on mine to work properly as a zero hammer)
Magwells don't fit properly, you will need either file or tape to have it fit properly.
A marui spec slide and bbu will fit, however it does not engage the trigger disconnct properly meaning you cannot release the hammer with that slide on.
I have bought a green gas SA G17 match (with a fire selector located inside, after the hammer) recently, it lasted me 3 games before the hammer decided to randomly stop working, leaving it unable to shoot.
Unfortunately here in italy spare parts for SA are very rare to find, most shops have them out of stock
I thought I had a lot of Glocks!! Yes I am perfectly normal!
Question please: does the stark arms Glock have a fixed shell extractor? Also can you put real steel sights on them?
lol hahaha yea i'm the crazy one here XP
for shell extractor, yes its seperate i believe and also for real steel sights. Unfornately, I myself have never owned a set of real steel sights and installed them onto stark arms before. I'm actually not a big fan of doing that cos the metal on the stark arms I think it will give out really easily if i decide to tap a real iron sight into it.
best regards,
RS087
LoL, bonus points for the Doctor Who/Pokemon crossover t-shirt. :)
i think you undercut the trigger guard a little too much. under stress, it’s more liable to crack or fracture. but besides that, it’s very good stippling work! good job dude
Thanks for the education. Great video. 👍👍 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Also regardless of where the selector switch is on my gun it shoots full auto, I like the accuracy and how snappy it shoots but the whole not being able to use semi auto and extreme gas inefficiency is so sad.
unfornately without custom tuning it, there's nothing you can do.
I know this is a very vague answer and the reason is simply because a lot of custom work (not parts) is required to fix the issues you are having, which requires a lot of learning and a lot of... time. There's lots of post on forums and on fb groups you can read up to learn it all but its a long read.
The reason why?, it's the reason why!
Thanks a lot man
What nozzle return springs will work with the G19? My gun uses gas extremely inefficiently, i can’t use a whole mag with ten seconds of green gas.
Wonder if they addressed any of these issues with the Elite Force licenced G17, which we all know is a VFC haha
Slaughter619 500$ says they didn’t
what side is the stark arms glock 18c on?
see the new elite force Glock approved pistol? stark arms makes em... and $45 a mag...
I know you explained the fitment issues for tm slides on a stark arms glock but i want to know if its possible to install a stark arms sai slide on a we g19?
basically not possible. Have to :
- change outer barrel to a TM one
- buy a stark arms nozzle, bbu the whole seutp for the stark arms slide. Cannot use TM internals.
- must be using a TM 18c or any copies of this system. like WE G18, etc etc
- no other way around this.
Hello Rogue, so the hammer on my SA g17 Combat SuperGrade "finally" broke, and I'm looking to replace it. I was wondering if I could replace my entire hammer housing(along with the parts inside) for a TM spec hammer housing? I've already replaced the BBU and nozzle with a g18c UAC BBU and nozzle, so the TM spec hammer housing should interact well with those. I don't mind filing and sanding the hammer housing a bit to fit it inside, but do you have any idea as to whether it is at all possible?
hi @zaniac did you make it finally?
@@fdwnt293 I bought an full APS hammer assembly and tried to fit it inside my SA17 grip, but there were simply too many areas that didn't fit. The housing was sitting 0,5-1 mm too high in the grip, even after a lot of filing.
On top of that, the auto sear got stuck on the bbu, leading to it not cycling (even manually), and I don't remember if I ever pinpointed the exact reason for it.
In the end I bought a steel hammer made for the SA17, made by azimuth, I think.
Ever since I put the new hammer in, the gun has acted inconsistently at times, as if it didn't hit the output valve on the magazine with the same force every time(tested on SA mags and APS mags, both CO2).
Til;dr ended up buying an SA spec hammer, as the TM spec hammer assembly proved too troublesome.
Good vid!
G18C TM hammer housing can fits in Stark Arms G19 ??
What about a stark arms glock18c slide?
Hey bud.
If I purchase a WE G26 gas pistol, am I able to upgrade to a metal slide that has the official Glock grades...? Or would I save myself some trouble to juSt order the TM version....?
I ask because I have found. a WE G26 for $64, and was thinking to hvae the full GLOCK trades, I could maybe purchase JUST the slide from TM ( or maybe another company that produces the slide with the trades), any advice....? Are ANY of the manufacturers that use REAL steel on the slides and they also have the REAL Glock trademark, and not just the “G”.....
Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated! :)
I would love to see your whole collection, ever thought to make a video of your collection???
by the way you have an awesome channel)))
lol haha i'm OCD with making things perfect, so yea probs one day XP
:) and much appreciated bro! :)
best regards,
RS087
Bro i have stark arms 18c, are they compatible with guarder marui ones, if the hammer set works with marui steel, i would love upgrading it too
hey great video, I would like to know if the Star arms G-Series mag compatible with TM/WE G-Series
Why does my Stark Arms Glock 19 slide wobbles from side to side? Is that normal? It also wobbles when I hold the pistol and shake my hand. Is something loose inside?
Will a upgraded stronger hammer spring meant for a tm g17 work in a stark arms g17?
Hey, I was thinking about buying a Stark Arms. Now I'm not so sure, as reliability is a key for me, yet so is owning a GLOCK. Is a WE Glock or other a better substitute or should I stick with buying an Elite Force M1911 TAC (Old Reliable, never Break). Also maybe any other suggestions for a pistol to buy? I like fire selection, (fully auto/semi/burst). Also, amazing vid, so well informed. Maybe I should just buy a Tokyo Marui with a Metal Slide upgrade?
STM Polaris Hmm i honestly think whatever system you understand best and willing to maintain is the system that you go for. It appears that people don’t mind using Stark arms as their base gun for their builds but for me i prefer TM just cos i find its a little bit more flexible in the choices that i have for aftermarket, technical support, and availability.
I think if you live in the US, its a little difficult for you guys to use glocks in general so i think maybe stick to something that airsoft stores near u will support, like the umarex pistols, your elite force pistols (i’m not sure what elite force is) etc etc. If i have to give a reconmmendation, i would choose the KSC / KWA M9s or the HK45s, reason being the KSCs are difficult to take apart, yes, but they tend to work pretty well and replacing parts is not very frequent, and they do the job for a descent price (all things considered).
Rogue Studios Yea, we have a hard time getting Glock clones in the US, but not if we buy them direct from Asia. I can buy from JkArmy and get it here. So do you think if I buy the VFC/Stark Arms one, I can mod it well eneough to be a reliable sidearm for a couple years, if so do you know which parts to relplace? Also Elite a Force/Umarex just released a Glock Trademarked in the US but the consensus is that it is not as good as the European and Asian Marui and Stark Arms. (Also Elite Force is our Umarex basically) I originally was looking for an EBB pistol/msg as a sidearm. But I have seen that the Tokyo Marui variants are around $240 and hard to get upgrades for.
STM Polaris hmm i still think get whatever system you understand best and willing to maintain. Cos for the stark arms, some people dont like taking them apart and working on them, some domt like the proprietary stuff, i think maybe figure that out first. For example, in hong kong it makes more financial sense and logical sense to go with we or tm cos its not particular expensive and parts are readily available. The only reason why we dont use stark arms much cos we havw to order replaceament parts from taiwan or modify tmg18 parts to fit into stark arms and we also dont want to be trapped in a system with the other disadvantages that it has (thats too long for me to list). So ur gonna have to take a looksie to see what u prefer, The US market does appear to be getting ready to take in stark arms but it looks like its still ongoing atm. not sure how that will work out
Hi! I got a S17 Match and im looking for a red dot. Do you know wich one fits on the slide? Thank you!
Omg you have own every single stark arms
Glock
hello! I now have a TM spec glock 19(glock 17 system), and i wanna install a vfc rmr slide onto it. I am thinking about using the vfc slide and a glock 17 spec rmr blowback unit. Would this work?
Thank you for the help
In terms of magazine compatibility can they fit with Tm or We mags?
have they fixed the sear flaw in the umarex licensed versions?
is that the reason why?
Are you able to use a TM barrel for the sai stark arms ? Such as a ace1 arms barrel made for TM? Or do you still have to modify it
nope not able, no TM barrels will fit into stark arms without modification. The modification involves chopping up a lot of metal, so i suggest u avoid unless if you have a mill. Its definitely not doable with a file or a rotary tool so be care
Hi, guys. I am looking at the new vfc g19x. Will that be the same as the stark arms ones and will they basically have the same issues? Thanks!
No glock 18? ;P
Have a Stark Arms Glock 18 I wonder what compatible with that one is
can i put an agency arms g17 slide or pts atom on my vfc g17 gen4 ?
What about the S18? I am considering running my S18 on CO2 (from what I have heard, then the S18 is mag compatible with the S17), would I need to invest in a new blowback housing, and/or loading nozzle?
unfortunately stark arms has no aftermarket blowback housing or nozzle for g18 and g17.
If you decide to use c02, its mostly use at your own risk
Sorry, forgot to mention, the blowback housing, and nozzle would be the TM ones.
Link to them
Blowback housing (1): www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Other_WA_M4_Parts_UAC_Ultra_Lightweight_Blowback_Housing_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C.htm
Blowback housing (2): www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Pistons_and_Cylinders_Guns_Modify_CNC_G18C_Blow_Back_Housing_Set_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C.htm
Loading nozzle: www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_GBB_Air_Nozzle_UAC_Aluminum_Loading_Nozzle_for_Tokyo_Marui_G18C_GBB.htm
I can't get my Stark Arms Glock 19 to work so I'm just gonna say screw it and buy a TM Glock 19. Will my Stark Arms slide fit on the TM Glock? Will I need to upgrade anything to use green gas?
unfortunately complete different systems so stark slide will not work on tm :(
(despite the fact that we can mod tm slides to fit stark arms (with a lot of effort)).
I have stark arms g19, can i change the housing set like gunsmodify brand? if can, is using tm 17 or tm 18c one?
cannot change, non compatible! and as of right now in november 2016 there are no other options for any stark arms glocks :(
best regards,
RS087
Can stark arms g17 uses TM guide rod ? Is it fit ?
is there any barrel that will fit sa g19 ?guarder maybe
So, my friend recently got a Stark Arms, and it's shooting as far as an upgraded VSR-10. Is there any way to prevent the hammer from breaking? both left and right side of the table
XCalB I highly doubt it’s getting 250 to 300 feet. Its probably around 150 to 190feet
He was using it to snipe at a milsim
XCalB yeah? That doesn’t mean much
It does if he's hitting the same ranges as our upgraded VSR next to us which has been tested and shoots acurately to 230ft
OP Airsoft no trust him. I have a TM and a stark arms barrel in my WE g17 and I shoots crazy far, probably 210 feet I would say
Who is the mystery glock most like, I.e oem?
A1 Retro It's Stark Arms/VFC, I think you are looking on JK Army.
Do you have a suggestion on how to reduce the trigger safety? I have a guns modify trigger and I feel like the trigger safety sticks out too much for my taste. Thanks!
i'm pretty sure u can adjust the take up on the gunsmodify trigger.
Do you mean the 'take up' or the 'over travel' ?
I meant the trigger stop. It sticks out too much
you can adjust the trigger all the way back until the trigger safety hits the frame (so it can no longer stick out as much, it makes it look like this :
ruclips.net/video/vk8h_eBW6ss/видео.html
(check the one with the red safety, that is a gunsmodify standard trigger)
RogueSystem087 thanks I'll give it a try when I get home
The trigger safety still sticks out the same even after adjusting the trigger all the way back. It's fine when the hammer is down but when it's cocked, it sticks out a fair bit. I guess there's no fix for it
Btw, which recoil spring % do you prefer?
Stock, 120 or 150?
HI, where you buy the Star Arms SAI G17/34? I live in HK too but found one cost $2980 / $3200
O_O WUT where on earth in hong kong are you looking???
these things are not much... like 1100? 1200 max?
there are rare, but... not that expensive O_O
Mong Kok Gun street lol , yes it's really rare, where you buy yours?
QRF, a long time ago, long long time ago when they first came out, the very very first batch.
THX BRO !
BTW, where did you get your conceal light holster? I love concealment gear too!
I have two questions, maybe you can help me.
Do glock22 TM magazines fit in glock17 TM?
Another question, Does the slide of glock17TM fits in glock22 TM?
thank you in advance!
glock 22 mags fit in TM G17 and all other TM glocks including 22, 34, 26, 26 advance, 19, and 17.
Slide for TM G17 will fit on tm g22. However, you have one extra condisideration to think of which is highlighted in this video
: ruclips.net/video/l-Si_nByZ7w/видео.html
Thank you very much for the information, I have a glock22, the slide is broken, I can find g17 slide to sell but not g22.
np, u can get only regular tm g17 slide and just treat your G22 like a G17 (literally the same no difference.). The only difference is in the video i linked u ealrier about the trigger disconnect being stiffer on the g22 and g34 (otherwise, you have zero worries. Focus more on the slide you want to get and what problems it might have).
I'm sorry for bothering you again. I'm about to buy another Glock TM, I'm trying to decide between a glock17 or a glock18C. Do the magazines of my glock22 fit in the Glock18C? Which Glock model do you recommend most?
all mags for tm g17, 18c, 22, 34, their magazines are all cross compatible. Their magazinies can also fit in g26, 19 etc.
For which glock model is best, I suggest just avoid TM G18c because its mainly for techs only. Its not an easy pistol to maintain and its not as easy to disassemble as the TM G17. And also, TM G18 uses an extra sear, called the full auto sear. It functions both in semi auto and full auto (its used in both cases, which makes understanding the pistol much more complicated than usual).
Long story short, any TM G17 system is fine. TM G17, g22, g34, is all fine and i suggest u just stick to those.
How many glocks do u have?
holy shit how many glock do you have
:) xP
I was thinking the same thing! XD
know anyone in the u.s.a that has a g19 gen4 for sale. im looking
So how would we make a stark arms g19 reliable? Should one just get the umarex g19 that just came out?
Johnny Long umarex g19 is a stark arms gen 2, exact same problems, nothing has changed from then and now other than a few very minor things
Rogue Studios wow impressive response time, subbed... are we speaking of the same umarex/elite force gen 3 g19, glock licensed?
Johnny Long yup,
Umarex/EF glocks (all of them, exception of the C02/Springers/Non-blowbacks) = VFC/Stark Arms Gen 2 system with no G18c sear .
Other minor differences
> frame is less realistic on the umarex/EF version (cos u guys have different text, and also airsoft text)
> Front chassis silver bit is slightly diff but same width so therefore not real noticeable difference.
> Rotor has always been spring loaded since gen2, so no difference here even tho this has been noted to be a major difference for the Umarex/EF version.
> Some minor changes to outer barrel, unknown reason, not sure myself.
Rogue Studios does all that you have stated before apply to the stark arms steel slide edition? If so, how would I make it more reliable? Thank you so much for the responses and information!
Johnny Long there is no stark arms steel edition, there's only stark arms with an aftermarket slide slapped on it but those to my understanding, are only available in taiwan and its either they have some in stock or don't have in stock (cos they are not made by stark arms factory).
Since there's almost nothing you can do outside of doing custom modification, there's essentially nothing than average airsofter can do to make it work with a steel slide. (Unless if you really want to take the time to rebalance your spring system, gas efficiency, rocket valve output, blowback force optimization. All of which are normally done by a gunsmith).
So the answer is essentially, nothing you can do, unless if you really want to invest in the tools and time. ( you can read up on those concepts if you wish, but its a long read).
where do you get the s3f solutions slide in Japan again?
back a long time ago in october 2015 i visited there and happened to make a pre-order with them. Their store is in ahkihabara right next to echigoya and they have no website as of right now.
They are planning to sell to others soon i'm told (within this month its possible it might show up in boom arms) for around 500 HKD for just steel barrel. Threaded barrel versions are all gone :(
Thanks. Haven't tried Boom Arms before. They don't have retail shop anymore, just online. It seems their online prices are rather high.
Yea :( have email him if u want to try
Thanks
U are a practical airsofter or u really u only buy the guns u like?
Chan Chan both
Why a TM over WE?
just depends on your personal preference. I do not bother differentiating them if i'm upgrading. If stock, then yes there is a difference in performance for certain obvious reasons. Like plastic slide vs metal slide. Soft hammer spring (TM) vs harder hammer spring (WE). Comparing these guns stock is not really worth comparing cos too very different situations.
best regards.
RS087
How much are those sai ones?
hmm around 900 to 1000 HKD which is around..... 130 USD? but due to the high demand, these things are always sold out and also they do not show up much on any websites :(
if u want to get one, u probs have to find someone in your country can import these
what your opinion on the kjw glocks
Isaac Cheng not bad for upgrade, but i prefer WE as tm substitute. Kjw is tricky to work on for beginners sometimes, even i need time to get smooth in its stock configuration
how about if i am planning to run it stock. does it last long?
Isaac Cheng not ideal for using stock, unless if u r willing to fork out more for a nozzle and a BBU
i guess i'll just pay the extra for a tm then
What would you rate the quality, practicality and reliability of a stark arms glock 17 or 19 compared to a tokyo marui 17, 18 or 19? Looking for another skirmishable pistol and wondering which would be best.
The only thing I would ever use is a TM g17 system or any other pistol that uses the same system like a TM G19 (which has not been released yet).
I honestly never once found the stark arms to be that great, not a very long lasting pistol, needs work for sure.
best regards,
RS087
RogueSystem087 Thank you so much, you have most definitely earned my sub.
I'm looking forward to catching up on your uploads.
I have a tm desert eagle but I may require a compact pistol too. So far the Deagle has really impressed me but something a bit smaller could be useful. Glocks seem perfect.
lol 'a bit smaller' hahaha yea man definitely need a glock in your life lolz XD
many thanks!
best regards,
RS087
RogueSystem087 Maybe 1/4 or 1/3 of the size haha definitely need to pick one up.
Has anyone got an air pistol with full Glock markings that they'd be willing to sell me?
Lewis Hampson yeah, I have a fully marked Glock 19 from VFC Starkarms. It has all the markings and name. Metal slide and polymer, I don’t think they make these anymore and I have it for collectible but how much were you looking to buyV
sorry but the sound quality is horrible...
Does the SA G19 has a Steel Outer Barrel Replacement in the market?
Sure: but often out of stock.
wgcshop.com/products?search_From=category&item=stark-arms-orignial-parts--metal-outer-barrel-for-s19-no-39&search=category&rs=Stark%20Arms%20Original%20Pistol%20Parts&catid=116&cat=887&view_choice=a
I see... This one's not Steel and doesn't have the trademarks....
But thanks anyway!
I rather have VFC lol
stark arms is vfc
Tea Hiester rekt
As he said, Stark Arms is a sub of VFC, and yes rekt
Do you know of any steel slides that could fit on my stark arms?
And is there any modifications that i need to make to run co2 in the stark arms?