Bizarre Jet Ski Tale Follows Teenager's Enigmatic Disappearance in Aruba | Max DeVries Case Analysis
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14 yrs old allowed to go with strangers in Aruba. Thats not even safe for an adult to do.
AINT THAT THE SAME PLACE NATALIE HOLLOWAY WENT MISSING WELL THEY DIDNT GET THE MEMO
Natalie Holloway was an adult who disappeared in aruba. 😢
Right? Though not as bad as letting 4-5 year olds wander by themselves, such as in the case of Derrick Robie (who was 4) and the girl whose name I don't remember (who was 5.)
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That said, I've been to Aruba many, many times alone with no problems. I've done all kinds of fun and unusual things there and traveled to many other places. I've found in life that common sense and situational awareness helps greatly, to keep yourself out of trouble.
No way would I EVER consider letting my kid go off alone with ANY strangers on a vacation. WTH was the mom thinking???
Uhhh… grief? I’m pretty sure that was what she was consumed by.
@derkeheath5172 could not agree more!!! Absolutely mind-boggling! 🤯
She wasn't
She was vulnerable. Her judgement was off because of grief and wanting her son to be cheered up. But yeah she said no and definitely should not have changed her mind. Her first instinct was correct.
@@breathnstop 2 years grief is fairly long time to grieve.
“Why would a 55yr old and a 37yr old, want to spend time with a 14yr old?”
Whhhho lets their kids just wander off with random men???
people can decide their own relationships
#Loveislove
Utterly insane behaviour by the mother.
@@General_Alekyour statement is confusing
@@General_Alek I am a mandated reporter, so I know that depends on state statutory rape laws for US citizens.
@@General_Alek...says most pedos.
Parents really need to be suspicious of anyone who shows this type of interest in your children, including teenagers. It's unfortunate but I think it's warranted. One poor decision can have catastrophic results. My heart goes out to Max's mother. Heartbreaking!
Well said, Janice.
Thank you for your considerate comment. This is an awful story and I feel so bad for this family. Fortunately these days we are more aware of these things. I imagine this man was extremely manipulative and appeared benevolent. His son with him and the mother having recently lost her husband being some of the things he could have used to manipulate the situation. He seemed to be controlling his son into perjury and guilt too! Disgusting… 😭
Why do people not pay attention to these videos? The woman was not a parent. But yes, of course she made a bad decision. Again, she was not a parent, she was not the mother.
@@SirenaSpades”Yvonne explained to them that Max had been jet-skiing the day before.” Literally said Yvonne was his mother in the beginning of the video.
Max's mother? You should be much more concerned with the fate of poor Max. He went through much. much worse.
A grown man wanting to take a 14 year old boy that he just met on some outing with him sounds very sketchy to me.
And so does a 55 year old man celebrating his 37 year old [sons] adoption in a pool hall...🤔
And a 57-year-old wanting to pay for a 14-year-old boy who he just spent the day before, JetSki rental is usually not cheap even in Aruba I’m guessing
Smacks of predation!
Kids, when your parents say no to going off alone with a stranger, accept it. Parents, never let your children go off with strangers and don't give in when they're sad about it.
That “lost at sea”, excuse works every time in Aruba.
Chum is either defined as 1. a close friend or 2. chopped fish, fish fluids, and other material thrown overboard as angling bait. Many different types of sharks apparently live around the island.
I was just going to say, What is it with Aruba?
@@bluecollarlitjust like what is with America and the millions of weird things that happen there daily
@@nakeishajacobs3767 hit a nerve?
@@a.m.9474 nope, just saying the truth.
I feel so bad for the mom. She must be wracked with guilt.
So two grown men took interest on vacation in a 14 year old boy stranger...enough that they are willing to pay his jet ski fee...c'mon...these two men are predators. This is suspicious. No normal adult wants to babysit your kids. I feel like this happens to solo female parents all the time. These people sense you are vulnerable and overwhelmed and fake an interest in your kid.
C’mon!
Exactly. When you're a lone mama bear you look at EVERYONE who comes near your kids with a side eye.
@@TheFakeyCakeMaker Not sure where this comment equals everyone but alarmed by the potential predators defending these douchebags. Sorry if I ruined your scheme by letting parents know this is effing weird.
Yeah.. similar thing happened to Tammy Grogan (also a single mother) and her son Jimmy. Except in that case, it was Tammy who got 'lost at sea'.
One of the alleged perpetrators included 14 yr old Jimmy's 'special' friend 25 yr old Craig.
John Lordon covered it in great length in his BrainScratch Searchlight episode at his channel.
Knowing dad had died made their story so much easier to prey
Before this report ends, I think everyone involved (David Sr. and David Jr.) got away with the murder of Max DeVries.
There's no doubt in my mind.
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Definitely David Sr. David Jr. certainly knew the truth.
Mothers @ fault 100%
Djr & Dsr Exposed poor Mothering.........Cannot be Kidnapping when Parent allows Strangers care!
It’s reasonable to think that there was foul play. This is outrageous
I don’t believe anyone in authority cared about Max DeVries’ disappearance.
Aruba has a strong shoulder shrug reaction to everything. I don't know why people go there.
Um, you think so?? Ask Natalee Holloway's Mom.
@@HollylivengoodI hear Aruba smells like a gas station right next to an oil refinery...
Exactly! They are more concerned about the money flowing in from ‘rich’ tourists than the money flowing out for a costly investigation.😡
@@micnorton9487please forgive me for my ignorance, but being a senior could you please explain what ‘gas station’ and ‘oil refinery’ mean?👴🏻😂
Uncommon method of climbing on a jetski using the neck and back of the hands. Lol that's the pure gold i come here for.
More like the kid scratched the guy's hands as he was being strangled from above,, as he was getting s assaulted... This senior perv should get tracked down and dealt with...
Jetskis are very scratchy things, how many other people on the planet have scratches from a jetski? Look at all those lawsuits...
David Sr. most likely SA Max and then unalived him. That’s why there were scratches all over him. Probably from Max defending himself.
100%
David Sr. was most likely facing Max as he was choking Max with his bare hands and thumbs to his windpipe or from a rear naked choke hold with or without arm bar hooks from behind judging by where the scratches were located on David Sr.'s neck and the back of his hands. David Jr. could have also been involved in the SA in a coordinated surprise attack.
I was thinking that too.
Exactly. 💯
Also, the men were most likely lovers, not father son. Back then especially, a father/son duo would seem less threatening to the mother of a 14 yo boy than would two male lovers
But the mother did not know David Sr. I don’t understand why she let her son go with a stranger anywhere?
When something makes zero sense, chances are someone is lying…
It’s pretty ludicrous that police believed his story.
I think it’s a combination of them not wanting tourism problems, and this guy being a master manipulator
they probably just didn't care
Poor Max, and his family. They were seeking healing but were intercepted by a disgusting and dishonest duo of David's
Too many suspicious and unsolved things going on in Aruba .
Been there once-never going back.
never been there and would never go
Yeah like the US not full of unsolved, murders, rapes police killings of minorities for no reason. What an unintelligent comment 🙄😡
What was your experience like there?
What happened when you went there?
David Jr. is not an "adopted" son of the old man. They're gay lovers & prey on young boys. Why this mother entrusted her child to a total stranger is beyond my comprehension
That's exactly what I was thinking. No way they are father and son. There's more to this
She was a very bad parent.
@@ohsweetmysteryjust an unstable lonely one.
Why does sexuality have to be involved at all?? Most male offenders are heterosexual, they are creeps and will prey on any child gender be damned.
My mom always said never trust anyone who isnt his parent or gparent and wants to spend time alone with your child.
Even those people some times you cant trust the numbers are higher on fam friends or some one you know then a Stranger
Let alone jet skiing and on open water at that. Dangerous. Even if she had gone down to watch, David Sr would have wanted to go out of sight as there are no cameras on the 🌊 🙈
Exactly. Now there are adults who encounter children that are being abused or molested in the home by a family member(s). And even those adults would not seek time alone with the child but would seek intervention of authorities to save the child. Sadly, there are many monsters that prey on their own children or younger family members in various way also. One can not always say that a child is safe or protected by their family. That is why all adults are responsible for the well being of all children. Even those who are not their own.
Agreed, but that's why parents, grandparents, etc offend at higher rates than random strangers. They have access.
I know it’s a bit different, but it reminds me of the Madeline McCann case.
Why on earth would they leave her alone?!
Shame on every law enforcement official ever involved in this kids disappearance!
One thing I know, nothing ever good happens in Aruba! I feel badly for this mother but, you cannot trust anyone alone with your children!
It's not even a nice place to visit unless you like flat, desert islands.
Exactly. No America should support Aruba with money. And no parent or relative or anyone should ever allow children to go off with any stranger for any reason. Monsters are in this world. It is the responsibility of all adults to protect children from these monsters.
Mom let a stranger pressure her to release her son… why do people let their guard down on vacations?
Manupulators can be very persuasive.
Shades of Madeleine McCann, too.
@@hhp2932 Very true. And she was probably a people-pleaser with no trained defense mechanisms.
NOT the mother..
@@SirenaSpades not the mama, not the mama!
WHY. WHY?? Why would any parent EVER let their child go off with a total stranger?! I don't understand. I cannot even begin to comprehend this.
This poor woman; she lost her husband and then her son.
She didnt want child so she happy cause would u let ur kid or even ur DOG go wit a strange man who don't even have kids wit him?
Poor woman? Do you not understand that the child she sacrificed went through much, much worse?
@@ohsweetmysteryYes, she made a mistake by allowing her child to go with someone she barely knew. However, 14 year Olds go places alone or without their parents a lot. Saying she "sacrificed" him is disgusting, but of course we'd blame the mom instead of the killer..that's how it goes.
@@kristixmichellepeople act like they could never make any mistake in their lives
David, sr’s story has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. That poor mother. I am always suspicious of any adult showing too much interest in a teen or younger kid.
I luv how Dr. Grande says A "So-called Lie-detector test" to let anyone who is somehow not yet aware, that those things cannot actually detect if someone is lying and are only useful as a tool to aid detectives in obtaining confessions/admissions of guilt, whether or not they are the truth.
These tests should be outlawed. They are a scam. They are about as useful as psychics clairvoyant consultants.
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Never take one of those
They detect stress. A person who believes it can detect that you are lying will be stressed if they lie. If telling the truth they will not be stressed. I speak from experience, I sought out a lie detection test to prove I was not lying. The results showed I was telling the truth except one question where part of the question was true but part was a lie and I could only answer yes or no and not explain that the answer was yes and no. So I hesitated and had to choose one or the other. So it may not actually show you are lying, but it can indicate stress associated with the question which can indicate truth or lie. So it is in that respect, a lie detector.
They are a tool of manipulation.
Aruba is a very corrupt place. I knew somebody that moved there to retire and they said they couldn’t getting anything they wanted done without bribing someone. I assume they meant building a house or something but idk
That's how it is anywhere south of Texas... and here in the US
@@SirenaSpadeswhat? That’s nothing like the U.S. lol Also Texas is in the U.S. Why wouldn’t you just say south of the border?
So, south of Texas, and north of Texas?
The David's were so good at getting at Max I would expect they have other victims (that they likely attacked but didn't kill) They knew how to befriend the family first to gain the mother's trust and get access. I'm sure she thought the outing would be a chance for Max to have something similar to father-son time that he would have been missing since his father's death. I'm sure she felt the pressure of a teenage boy not wanting to spend every minute with his mom and thought 45 minutes apart would be fine. 14 years of cherishing and protecting a child destroyed by monsters. To lose her husband and then son like that and get not justice must be beyond agony.
It wasn’t just letting the boy go alone, but letting him go off with the much older stranger at a somewhat risky sport in the ocean. Who knows maybe the men seemed really nice the day before but for myself, I would tend to be skeptical, especially for people I just met to let her child go off with them.
Exactly. It's a motorized vehicle on the vast ocean. However, I do blame the accompanying Aunt more than the mother. The Aunt was there to help the mother, who had lost her husband and may have not been all together mentally yet. The Aunt should have said absolutely not. If I had been there as an Uncle, I do not care what the actual parent said, I would have told the boy no. I would have even been rude if need be, and said flat out. You are an adult man. You barely know this boy. What are your real intentions. That alone would have made the man say never mind. Someone just needs to express some suspicion of the situation. Or the family should have said we will all go, or no one will go.
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Parents watch your kids. Especially with strangers.
This is the first intelligent comment so far
Thanks for this
‼️‼️Or hey better yet DONT LET YIUR KIDS GO OFF WITH STRANGERS ‼️‼️‼️‼️
@@wanyatelborn The earliest comments are always so useless. They don't even wait to watch the video.
I was in aruba and loved it. I met a man there who was a navive/local and claimed to be connected to those in high places. We got into a discussion of true crime and mentioned Natalie Holloway. He made some wild claim that she was still alive perhaps sold to slavery or similar. I did not believe this at all BUT he did strongly emphasize that whatever DID happen would have been deliberately covered up for reasons mentioned. THIS i did/do believe. Poor Max.
That doesn't mean it's a fact.
@@hhp2932I didn't say it did.
We all know its was covered up for a long time his dad was a lawyer so when he was alive he had nothing to fear
The HUGE red flag here was when the mom said NO and the adult man ask again!!! Parents NEVER feel like you have to allow your child to do anything with others No matter who they are. If your first instinct is to say no. For whatever reason, if you feel even a tiny bit towards no- then stick to it. Even if its just to go for a sleep over with their friends.
Max’s mom made the choice not to get in a power struggle with him on a family vacation. She and Max paid the ultimate price. I have no patience with those condemning the mother and saying that she should be arrested for neglect. They clearly have never been single parents with challenging teens. There is no evidence that Max would even have obeyed a definitive “No”.
@duvessa2003 good point, he was a teen. She's paying the greatest price already.
@@duvessa2003 My heart breaks for this Mother however if she felt like it was a power struggle situation she should have stood her ground !! The fact that an adult that she just met wanted to push the issue should have had alarm bells ringing her ears off!!
@@duvessa2003that is a great point. It’s all about perspective and understanding. We all make less than smart decisions and we all have our reasons. This compassion and understanding for the mother is refreshing. Thank you for that. A teen boy. W a single mom. This theory makes sense. Kids always think they know best. And he could’ve went against her wishes like any teen boy or girl may do. It’s tragic. I think this is why we shouldn’t jump to conclusion who knows what that poor mother went through w the kid before that point.
A responsible adult would have put the boy on their jet ski and ridden together back to shore to advise the rental company that their broken jet ski was out there floating.
Hard o believe there was no attempt to swab the scratches for DNA !
Dr.Grande you are spot-on on all facts against these two.
It's heart breaking for mother and family .Thank you for great analysis of this tragic case 👍.
Never mind all of the opinions regarding the mom's regretful decision, this is just so heartbreaking on every level. A family that had already suffered such a pivotal loss is on a vacation where new memories can be formed only to experience one more. I cannot imagine.
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Here's a wild thought, keep strangers away from your precious little babies. Everyone is a predator until proven otherwise.
Not only strangers also look at the people close to you my kids never went to no home from friends or fam they sleep here with me they 14 16. 17 and 23 now and that because i always kept them save i believe i dont trust nobody not even fam
Well, a 14-year-old isn't a baby. I had my own paper route when I was 12. Only the most demented of parents try to supervise their teenage children 24/7. Blame the creeps who did something to the kid, not the mother.
@@jamesbowman6925 You have to protect the things you love. NEVER leave them alone with total strangers.
@@jamesbowman6925I also worked at 14 around strangers. I don't think mom made a great decision, but we weren't there and it's gross how many of these comments blame her not the killer.
If they wanted me to visit, they would have done a proper investigation and arrested the criminals. But because they swept it under the rug, I won't feel safe to go there and will never do so!
One should never go alone to these places. You may wanna try it out with a bunch of friends.. not friends like those of Riley Strain, though..
It would not be the first time that a legal adoption between adult males has been used to deflect suspicion or disguise a partnership dedicated to abuse.
tell me more
A very unsettling tragedy.
The poor mother must have suffered terribly. It is strange the boy was allowed go off with strange men and so strange the police did not investigate
We can only the boy had a quick passing. Thanks dr.G.👍
No effing way! What the heck! Red flags a flying all around. He's a predator. It is so obvious and they need to be brought to justice.
How could the mother let her young son go off with a stranger, an older 55 year old man? Why did she get involved with these 2 men, a son who was 37 & a father who was 55? Sounds like they plotted this disappearance of Max.
Older than 55? What does that matter?. Max should not have been allowed to go off with any stranger. Not even female. Females have often procured children for men. The reality is never feed you child to any stranger. Even though most abuse and molestation occurs at the hands of a family member or family friend or "trusted" institution, like a church, or boy scouts or a doctor for any olympic team, or any position of power or guidance over a child, it also occasionally happens, and more likely ends in death, when the monster is a stranger.
Maybe moms should not let their 14 year old kids go off with almost total strangers?
he decided to
@@General_Alek A 14 year-old was a minor who was supposed to be supervised by his parents (sans a father in this case). He wanted to go, so his mother allowed him to go against her better judgment. Thus, her son has disappeared under suspicious circumstances and is most likely dead. This is a parent's worst nightmare.
They WERE total strangers.
@@General_Alek You keep defending these creeps. Something is not right with you.
True. But maybe put the blame where it really lies. With men who abduct children, SA them and grown women and 'unalive' them (I guess that's the new speak for commenting). Maybe MEN need to be done something about.
Two people can ride one jet ski. Especially an adult with a slight 14-year-old on the back.
There's something fishy about Aruba crime solving capabilities.
For the life of me, I don't understand how a mother couldn't smell evil from the start! 2 grown men vacationing in Aruba to celebrate their adoption??
Pedophiles smell. A parent should be wise as serpents....or wiser...! What Max must have gone through would haunt me forever.
Sadly the mother was still grieving and made horrible decisions. I more so blame the accompanying Aunt, who should have been the voice of reason and sanity. The mother brought her their to help her. And she failed horrifically.
Can two people not get on one jet ski? Plus I don't think there was a jet ski adventure, I think Max died elsewhere and then an accident was created to explain his disappearance.
One more reason I will never visit Aruba.
I find mysterious cases like this one, the case of the two missing Dutch girls in Panama, the disappearance of Brian Shaffer or Mekayla Bali especially eerie. The demeanor and façade, especially of David Senior, reeks of foul play.
I also couldn't help recall the horrible case of the vile serial killer Oba Chandler.
No matter how perceptive you may think you are, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER go to a secluded, remote or unsupervised area with an enthusiastic over-friendly stranger, let alone enable your child to do so.
Their first pleasant hang out was clearly a ruse to let the mother's guard down. Tragically, it clearly succeeded.
Murderers/pedophiles are top-notch masters of disguise. R.I.P Max.
Aruba is not safe. Crimes are not investigated because they don’t want anyone to believe that bad things happens in Aruba. Especially when the perpetrator is the son an authority such as a judge as in the Natalee Holloway case.
Prob had a boat waiting. Had their. Way
With him and disposed of him later.
Life preserver.
Defensive scratches.
Changing story.
Arrested for the same thing.
Guilty
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Because they were creeps and everything he has said was and is a lie. Why didn't they fly over and look for Max like you say he had on a lifejacket and it seems like they could have found him if they had just looked.
Natalee Holloway comes to mind. i certainly wouldn't vacation there.
How stupid do you have to be to let your child leave with a stranger ⁉️😡
So mom just let her 14 yr old child go out in the wide open ocean with a stranger she just met? Ok
Huh?! The mom let her child go somewhere alone with perfect strangers? Clearly, the men did or tried to do something inappropriate to Max and killed him on purpose or accidentally. Horrible, horrible, horrible! 😡🤬
Silly mother, let's her young son go into the sea with a stranger unsupervised.
Horrible man, thinks it's ok to take a boy and abuse him and make him disappear. Don't forget who is really at fault here. Mother made a mistake. Man made an abomination!!!!!!!!!
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating on why some cacti are larger than some lamps like this.
💯 You’re totally right about Aruba’s authorities statement of the case. Too many obscures incidents, murders, missing people and stinky things happening there.
The Island of Evil!
I think this happens because when some people go on vacation, it's like they don't think the same way they'd think in their home towns. If you wouldn't let your child go off with a strange man in your home town, don't do it when you're on vacation.
The realities of this case are "obvious" but of course can't be proven at this point. I'd say it's safe to say that the authorities in Aruba were negligent at best, and grossly incompetent at the least. This kid got zero justice, and although it's horrible to Monday morning quarterback .... WHAT was this mother thinking? Sad. Disgusting.
insane that the mom let Max go with a stranger. Sorry, don't care how awkward it looks, at that point I'd tell that creep to hit the fucking road
These 2 David scumbags definitely killed poor Max. I think Sr assaulted Max or atleast tried something. Max fought back, hence the scratches. Sr killed Max and Jr helped dispose of the body. They probably took the Jet Skis to an undisclosed location and definitely lied about the jet skis breaking down. I hope Max gets justice one day...
The police should have asked Jr. to fart. I bet he couldn't do it. David Sr. wore that thing out.
I don't know much about " Jet skees "
Or similar water toys. But if the one malfuntioned. Two people can ride back on one.
There simple fact an adult man wanted the lad alone is alarming.
They groomed the family spending the day with them.
We don't like being suspicious of others. But unfortunatly times are changing and preditors don't fear charges. And by the outcome its easy to see why.
Poor child.
I hope the family has healed somewhat. The loss never goes away.
A Jet Ski is for 1 rider, and you stand up on it to ride it. Sort of like being on a scooter on the water. They're not super easy to ride, and can be hard to just sit on if you're not moving. You're thinking about a Waverider or a Sea-Doo, where 1 or 2 people can easily sit on it, and it's more like a motorcycle on the water. It's easy to sit on and float around even if you're not moving.
Thank you Dr. Grande for bringing awareness. At least there is social justice.
WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN?!?!?!?!
there is only ONE REASON a grown man wants to be alone with your young boy.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
JESUS!!
I'm never going to Aruba. Too many people disappear there.
55 year old man & his younger lover & old man wanted the 14 year old!
Right. It's doubtful they were "father and adopted son".
What if he’s not dead? What if he was trafficked? People don’t think of these dangers or even know how to protect themselves or children from them if it’s not something they’ve sought to learn the dangers of, especially anytime before now, when it’s more known about.
Thinking of that poor, broken family going home without Max is heartbreaking, that was likely the hardest thing they ever had to do. That family, just trying to have a good time and make some nice memories to cushion the loss they still felt and a mother not wanting to disappoint her child who already lost his dad and her guilt saying ‘yes’. Such tragic circumstances and a vulnerable family seemingly spotted and taken for a ride.
Why wasn’t he found floating in the life jacket he was wearing? It’s what I wondered the whole time and still can’t understand. Was he found and not revealed, or was he taken and David Sr. trafficked him along, right their on open water? It was left so undone and seemingly so little was done to find this young man.
If the father had been alive, he would not have allowed max to go. The mother, instead of being a protective parent to her son, chose to be a friend and let him go with a stranger. Who does this? This woman does. SMH.
It's true she shouldn't have let him, but your focus being on the wrong doing of the mother instead of where it belongs, on this so called David Sr is a bit off center.
If the father had been present, the mother and son would not have been targeted.
We don't know what the father would have done.
@@tanikokishimoto1604 the father was a successful man who was a high earner. He had it together, so I’ll assume he ran a tight ship family-wise.
@@diannew6066 it starts with the parent. After all, David Sr. asked for the mother’s permission. Yet she couldn’t say no to her son. She turned into a friend, not a mother at that point.
What a horrific, disturbing story. Stranger Danger. No matter how friendly and helpful they may seem. So sad
Never trust a stranger.
Father and son traveling predators. I cannot believe anyone goes to Aruba after the way the authorities there treated the murder of Natalie Holloway.
They probably weren't even father and son
@@esmurphy9405 hmmmmm. I didn't think of that.
Man, what’s the deal with Aruba?
Corrupt and evil
Thank you Dr. Grande for your analysis. I am sure this poor Mother regrets her decision everyday. What a sad story and no closure for the family. Have a happy weekend Dr, Grande😇🌵💕from Jean.
While David Sr was on the water by himself David Jr was brrying max on land somewhere.
As a young female teenager back in the 80's, I was on holiday with my parents and brother and I noticed a young couple kept staring at me, waving at me and then trying to talk to me. Even though young, I was very aware of dangerous people. I told my mum about this 'weird' couple. Anyway they got talking to my parents and then asked them if they could take me out for the day, it was myself that said No to going anywhere with them and that I would only talk or sit with them when my parents were near me. They did understand. To cut a long story short, we all became really good friends and met their parents when we all got back home to the UK. They were very trustworthy and thankfully everything was just fine. But to every parent out there, if a person seems ok and friendly enough, please never trust them to take your child off alone as that person is a stranger and something awful happens. Whatever happened to the poor boy in the story, I do believe the father and son done something to him which is terrible. I feel for his poor mum and family.
Wow so many things any competent investigation could have looked into to check David's story. I've read Aruba is a very corrupt place and bribes can get you anything you want or out of trouble. I realize there is no such thing as a perfect country but there is a list of places (including Aruba) that I would never take a vacation to.
How does anyone know that David junior and Davis senior were father and adopted son. I think they were a gay couple pretending otherwise. Cos if the family knew this - there is no way that the mother wd have allowed max to go alone with Dave senior.
Honestly, she seemed pretty careless with her decisions towards her childs safety. I don't think it would have made much of a difference. You don't let your child go off with ANYONE you don't know. This entire thing was avoidable. That's the most terrible part, she had the ability to prevent this. Poor Max. May he RIP.
justice for this child
devries!!
Two people could fit on a wave runner especially if ones a kid. Then again another missing in Aruba story.
I think that David met with someone with a boat and they took Max
Exactly! Offshore trafficking definitely a possibility!
This mother decided to let her kid go off into the OCEAN with a STRANGER?!!!!!
It had to be acute grief.
Is there any way we can help ? Like write the FBI or any other suggestions ?
Seems like people in Aruba have a particular knowledge about how to disappear a body in a short time. This reminds me of the disappearance of Natalie Holloway
This woman probably wouldn't lend her car to a stranger she just met, but she would hand her son over to one. They should charge her with child neglect and endangering.
That's a really good analogy. If people thought about it like that they might be more careful with who they let be around their children. You're exactly right, she never would have lent her car to them.
She unconsciously assumed the man shared her values and standards, I think.
Never never trust an older ( sometimes younger, too )stranger with your children, especially when on vacation . Sometimes, it takes years and years to really know someone, and even then you get big surprises
If you are an adult, you never trust anyone fully with your child or anyone's child. You must always have awareness to children, to just be aware to anything off. Children are abused, neglected, molested, raped, and murdered every day, everywhere in this world. The majority of the predators are family members or friends of the family, or members of a trusted institution, and sometimes absolute strangers, as in this case. But all non adult predators in this world have a responsibility to help and look out for all vulnerable children and even other adults in this world. It takes a village.
How terrible; at first I wondered if David Sr. had police connections in Aruba, but the idea that Aruba would want to sweep this under the rug (so as not to discourage tourism) makes more sense. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.
What a horrible crime.
Hello Dr. Grande, thanks for covering this case. Thumbs up
Always interesting
Thank you ❤
I blame the parents for this. No way in hell should you let your child be a complete stranger on a vacation or anyplace else. Just absolutely crazy. 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
The father had already passed the way
@@lilsyevasifuentes7628 Maybe she had guilt over Max no longer having a father figure in his life, so she let her guard down. If so, I bet she regrets doing so.
Yes, the mother made a mistake to trust strangers, but she is not the one that took the child’s life.
Interesting how many of you men/boys find contempt for the mother but not a word about your fellow man who obviously out-played the mother and did worse to the son. You need to think about your priorities dude.
@@diannew6066 All people are born to a mother with or without an absent father. So, everyone should be concerned about the quality of parenting in society. However, the fact is that the majority of single parents are mothers. There is an expectation of a single parent to be twice as protective of his or her children. Intact nuclear families have the same amount of responsibility to protect their children, too, but each parent shares half of that duty with the other spouse. Not to negate this mother's responsibility to protect her children, but she was recently widowed. Her mindset of a vacationing poodle had not changed to that of a guard dog, yet.
Thank you for speculating!
As always Dr. Grande .. very good work.❤ Thank you
Joren Vandersloot needs a cellmate. Aruba is not on my bucket list. It’d probably be the last entry.
I'm sure he has a big ol roommate in Peru,where he will spend his pitiful life...