He is not obligated to pay for the fence since it was her choice, but he could of been kind enough to participate in the payment of the fence@@Lana-ks3et
He rubbed me the wrong way immediately when JM asked if he lives there, and his was like "How does she know I'm not there? Is she spying on me?" Sounds like it was pretty obvious he wasn't around if his dogs were constantly walking around unsupervised.
yea they are left in the yard alone all day so trying to go off and make their own fun. cant really blame dogs for doing what dogs do and without a lot of human interaction they are acting more as pack animals
@@lone.faerieno she exclaimed "he's never there!" like it's any of her business whether he is or isn't. It was partly her fault for feeding them. If you even watched this episode video. Also his brothers fault too
I do not understand how Animal Control felt they did not have enough proof if she was able to leash the dogs and they had blood on them. And this Defendant should not even have animals if he has the type of job he stated and is hardly even home or gone for such long periods of time. Obviously, his brother, who lives there is not doing a great job.
I'd say because he's a firefighter. Thick as thieves the public servants are. You can see it on the RUclips videos of Long Island Audit, Bay Area Transparency in particular. The feelings police... Animal Control is part of police departments.
you'd be surprised at what animal control deems sufficient. the people who lived behind me at first had 8 hunting dogs in an elevated cage, excrement throughout it, animal control was called out several time because of incessant barking, then some time after they were taken out of the elevated cage and given 5 gallon buckets with hay in them to sleep on. Once again animal control says everything was fine. the barking continued and more neighbors complained. the next door neighbor called a tv station and they came out and did a story, I was one of the many neighbors who complained. WHen the animal control guy came back out and then was interviewed by the tv crew he stated that no one had every complained about the dogsbefore,
Your dogs kill that pony....they were there and had blood on them.... no one believes you.... you are not even sorry about how that poor pony suffered.
@@shirleywiese5230Yea, if she’d had receipts for 3-4 years from what the pony made from being rented out she probably could have gotten something because it does take a long time to train a pony for that kind of thing, to be perfectly safe around screeching sugar filled children.
That defendant has no remorse and obvious no heart. No emotions towards a death of a pony. The Plaintiff was not prepared. She should have gotten the receipt of the fence and also a quote for a pony. This is just so sad, poor pony.
@@delonjuan you can if it's your work instrument. Let's say it's the car you use for Uber as a job. As for the pony was she getting money out of the pony? Was it a circus pony?
He's afraid of his dogs losing their lives, but he doesn't care that the pony lost his. And he's never there, and doesn't feed or water them adequately.
It’s almost like the defendant isn’t home and doesn’t even know what his dogs are doing. Also- WHO ELSES DOGS WOULD IT BE!?!? They are literally IN HER YARD.
@@thatlisagirl71 Not a chance. The husky would have kept the coyotes at bay, and they wouldn't attack an animal as large as a pony. It was 100% the dogs found in the yard covered in blood.
@thistles, huh? A family member horse was attacked on two separate occasions by a pack of Coyotes. The horse didn't survive the second attack. The dogs on the property alerted the owners and that's how they knew it was Coyotes
The horse was her personal responsibility to make sure the fence was adequate to prevent a neighbors dog from getting in or her hose from getting out. If you aren't going to provide that, then you shouldn't have an animal. She failed to. If there is no city or county ordinance that says he has to keep his dogs chained then why would she build a weak fence and take a chance of some animal getting at her horse. And if there's an adequate fence, why should he need to chain up his dogs?
Someone commented that the defendant lacked compassion as a firefighter (wildfires, not civic). Not so strange. It pays very well, high profile, and is a preferred profession for narcissists, as they get massive attention and live on the edge, an enormous ego boost. IMO
Exactly. Just like child abusers are drawn to careers that give them authority over children, like teaching. So they can abuse children and make a good living (and amazing benefits---and tenure!) while they're doing it. And everyone calls them an underpaid hero. And they bask in the glory.
I live out in a rural area where people have a lot of land, and some have livestock, and all I can say is that most folks out here wouldn’t have hesitated to shoot both of those dogs, had things really happened the way she says they did. Either way, that guy sounds like an irresponsible pet owner, and he needs to take better care of his animals, or relinquish them to good homes where they will be properly cared for.
I agree that the dogs would have been "taken care of" if they were actually vicious. Boxers aren't big. And if the dogs were getting under the fence, coyotes definitely could have. I think the pony got attacked by coyotes, and the dogs smelled it when they came outside. They got over the fence, and took a bite. But for the husky to have superficial damages tells me there wasn't a huge fight over the pony. Also, a husky in the desert is just rude. Also, they're not really livestock guardian dogs. So that seemed fishy to me that she would have a husky as their LGD. She also said that ponies live to be 40. But their lifespan is really between 20-30 years. She conflated a lot and took advantage of the judge not knowing much about the subject. The guy definitely needs to be held accountable for his dog's getting out at all, though.
@@deanwinchesterinthedarktower I think you are overestimating the size of coyotes. They aren’t wolves. Not much bigger than boxers and they weigh less, especially coyotes that live in desert regions. Of course a pack of coyotes could take down a pony. But why would they not eat almost any of it. They have very sharp teeth and would have pulled away much more flesh. The muzzle of the horse looks chewed on.
She wasn't "spying on him". Most people can tell if a neighbor is home or not. The lights aren't on, their cars aren't around, etc. Plus, this idiot leaves his dogs in 100 degree heat! What are they to do when the water runs out(I don't think the brother is really taking care of them)? There is something about the Defendant that is just not right, I can't put my finger on it.
Defendant has this excuse, "I was never there, but I lived there. Then the dogs were moved into the Media backyard, and then another park of the backyard. And with no shelter and no water or food."
The judge was so off with the award. Clearly she doesn’t have a clue what training a pony to be a party pony entails or costs. Sometimes I wonder where she gets her “knowledge” about these cases.
@@christynicholas6855 yes they should have been better prepared but to blatantly disregard the value of the pony because of its age in my opinion is ignorant
Defendant is awful. He couldn’t care less. He’s also a crap dog owner. Leaves them out in the yard. Plus, I don’t understand how he would not be responsible for half of the fence? Isn’t he legally obligated to contain his dogs? The previous fence wasn’t containing them
Animal control is useless! Shame on them! My dog on a leash was attacked by a neighbor dog that jumped over his fence! Animal control in San Diego did NOTHING but take a report! They are overpaid!
@@pammers5588Thank you but what I want is for Animal Control to start doing their job! Do you know they have the authority to kick down a door and rescue the dog? They can even arrest a police officer for interfering. Yet they do NOTHING!!!!!
A pony named Sugar Puff lived in the UK & reached the age of 56 by the time he had to be put down due to health issues, in May of 2007. Wikipedia describes a boxer as a medium-to-large German breed of Mastiff "with a powerful bite, ideal for hanging onto large prey".
To the question of whether two Boxers can kill or mutilate a pony 🐎 the answer is an absolute YES! I actually witnessed this as a child when the neighbor's Boxers came into our pasture and killed one of our goats and a pony. 😭 Decades later, my father-in-law was attacked in his own yard in Yuma. There is no animal control in that area and the Sheriff's Office refused to do anything. Those two dogs came really close to killing my elderly father-in-law and would have if my mother-in-law hadn't come out looking for him.
WHAT? Why is he not responsible for the fence? He is responsible for retaining his dogs on his property and if he doesn't want to put up a fence, then he should pay for at least half of the cost of the new fence that she has had to put up. And even if she fed 'his' dogs it doesn't mean that would encourage them to come on her property to attack (and kill) her pony...
Sad to say the dogs were probably hungry if he wasnt taking care of them. Hes worried about his dogs lives, yet had no compassion about the ponys life 😢
Absolutely Boxers can kill a pony. There are several cases of them doing so. Boxers are an aggressive and dominant breed. And those pictures of the dogs don't show "friendly" animals. I've had neighbors with boxers, while living in rural areas as well as the city. I always am on high alert when walking my dog with a boxer in the area.
Sorry I feel the judge was wrong on this one. You have three large animals dogs that killed….. a horse?!?? that’s dangerous because it could be a small kid next time. Plus this guy said he’s gone for long stretches and can’t take care of them?? You can’t put a pallet and think that’s going to fix a problem. I have 1 Chihuahua and I have to be there every day… with food, clean water and walks. I I can’t imagine someone with FOUR dogs just taking off like that “for long stretches”. And him not paying for part of the fence that can hold a chihuahua back? come on!! she even said that fence is bad.
I'm glad the plaintiffs were able to obtain some compensation for the loss of their beloved pony. My heartfelt condolences to them. I'm appalled at the arrogance of the defendant, especially given his professional occupation.
It is so comforting to see that most everyone here follows my logic. The girl is not the victim, her dog is. She is responsible for her dog and would have been responsible for injury to that Border Collie.
Ponies generally do not live to 40; even 26 is old age. She’s exaggerating wildly about the pony’s value because she does not approve of how her neighbor cares for his dogs. She may have a point, but sticking to the truth and using hyperbole to shine up a claim is distasteful.
You are totally wrong. With proper care, baring a neighbors abused and starving dogs killing livestock, ponies can live to 40 years or longer. You have a lot to learn back in school.
The judge shouldve held him responsible for part of fence because is was his dogs digging.. and he wouldve had to fix the problem in order to contain them.. now he got a free fix
I had a friend who had Boxers. I had gone to his house to visit and he was extolling the dog’s virtues when it suddenly and without warming lunged at me,snarling. I love animals. That experience made me look at them differently
The couple ought to feel a sense of shame for possessing numerous animals without providing a proper enclosure to ensure their safety. It is distressing that the poor pony had to suffer due to their inability to adequately care for and protect their animals. The defendant, too, should experience a deep sense of shame for failing to exercise control over their animals, as this negligence has tragically resulted in the death of an innocent pony.
@@oldageisdumb Yes, it's not her responsibility to contain her animals BUT between feeding the dogs which entices them to come over, as well as not doing anything to prevent them from getting in, she failed to protect her animals. She knew the dogs were dangerous and were getting in and she took absolutely no action to block the fence or the holes they were using. It's the same with a dead tree that overhangs your property, even if the tree isn't in your yard, if you know it's a dead tree, you have the option to have that limb removed and if it falls and breaks something, that's because of your own inactions. Yea, the defendant was a dick but the plantiff also never took any action; she's not guiltfree.
@@oldageisdumb Hah? Everyone is responsible for containing "their " animal. For them protection and safety of the animal for any wandering threats and to assure it can't escape and do harm to others. That's called "personal responsibility". And if she had "perfectly" contained her animals, the dogs couldn't have gotten in.
No one asked the obvious question, " were the defendants dogs covered in blood? " And come on, the plaintiff should know she has to prove the financial value of the pony and how she lost income from it being killed.
They said yes the dogs were covered in blood and had pictures (couldn’t clearly see if it was blood on them or not though) but maybe the judge could see.
That would’ve been proof. Blood on the dogs. I didn’t know that breed was vicious but I would not have awarded the plaintiff anything without more proof. Like defendant said they live in the desert. Coyotes or something else could’ve done that damage to the horse especially if dog and horse were used to each other.
@@bonitathompson1640 boxers aren't vicious, a Chihuahua is more vicious than them, it's more likely they could have been trying to fight off a coyote. It isn't likely at all that they'd attack a pony they've known their whole lives.
So the lady feeding the dogs aren't liable for any of this? Blood on the dogs doesn't mean they're guilty! They could have been licking the wounds and ran off the guilty culprit!
If you have horses, and dogs, it is your responsibility to keep them safe with a strong fence that other animals can't dig under. The best way is to install a strong fence and pour a concrete wall several feet deep on your side of the fence to prevent animals from getting under your fence by digging. And be sure to keep your fence in good, strong, condition.
….how did animal control come to the conclusion that there was no evidence his dog’s killed the pony when there’s literally photos of his dogs covered in blood?!
I actually disagree with the judge. Any animal is the responsibility of the owner to ensure it's under control. The pony owner was silly not to bring proof of the costs she was claiming, but she was also silly to not sue him based on his lack of control of his dogs. He was responsible for the dogs, he should have been made to pay for the whole amount of the fence.
A Welsh pony costs, at a minimum, $5000. This price can increase by tens of thousands depending on age and training. This was a personal loss for the plaintiff regardless of cost. The defendant seems unmoved by the whole ordeal. The dogs killed the pony and the defendant feels no compassion whatsoever.
Wow last time we looked into buying a welsh pony a few years ago it was around $5,000 to $8,000 for an older starter pony. They can get much more expensive if they have pedigrees
The fact that he has dogs at his "primary" residence are left unattended so often that the neighbors have to feed them is disgusting. He's a jerk and an irresponsible dog owner. He shouldn't be allowed to own animals.
I feel she should have been awarded the cost of the fence. If it wasn't for his inability to contain the dogs within the secure area, the dogs wouldn't have been a risk. Ongoing they could get to her, or another pet so she needed that fence, it wouldn't be a choice but a necessity. I would have made him pay the lot 😊
Why do people come to court with absolutely no evidence of how their items cost!!? You can’t come to COURT with you hands swinging and shout out a random cost as the value of something ((🤦🏿))
I love animals. They're far better than people are so these kinds of cases are the most sensitive for me. This situation here is just sad and unfortunate all the way around. Protect all animals which should all have a happy home! No excuses
The defendants lack of empathy it horrifying. It is clear HIS dogs have blood all over them and they are sitting next to a pony with it's face ripped off. I believe this woman when she says he wouldn't leave his dogs water in 100 degree heat. This man shouldnt be allowed to be near animals..... ever.
First off, I didn't hear anything about any violence from the dogs before the pony attack. It seems that's a good reason to not be terribly concerned. That pony being trained the way it was was worth much more than $1000. As far as guilt goes.... She found the dogs there at the scene covered in blood. Pretty damning evidence in my book. Wish she had taken pictures. But I'm sure she was more concerned about her pony and dog than a future court case. Someone else mentioned the income loss from losing the trained pony. Good point.
I hope whoever wants to hire this young man as a firefighter sees this episode and that his lack of compassion and empathy disqualify him for service. In addition, he is a liar and irresponsible. He seems narcissistic as well. This is not the character we want in public service. He actually seems a bit evil.
While I feel bad for the plaintiff there are hundreds of ponies in every state that are free. So many people buy ponies for the kids or grandkids only to ride once, realize they are too much work and not that much fun and then they will give them away. I live in the country and have actually helped rehome 3 in my life for that exact reason.
The Pony lady was totally correct and that defendant was (is) a jerk.
AGREED
She had to go protect her animals so he needs to pay for half the fence
He is not obligated to pay for the fence since it was her choice, but he could of been kind enough to participate in the payment of the fence@@Lana-ks3et
I’m glad she won. Because the defendant seems like an asshole and stuck up …
He rubbed me the wrong way immediately when JM asked if he lives there, and his was like "How does she know I'm not there? Is she spying on me?" Sounds like it was pretty obvious he wasn't around if his dogs were constantly walking around unsupervised.
amen
@@amandadonaldson8748 Me too
I know
He is a pretty boy pr*ck. His attitude and the fact he doesn't want to take responsibility is beyond stupid.
That poor pony 😢
He said he's afraid of his dogs losing their life ... But doesn't care to watch, confine, or control them.
Yet he didn't care that the pony lost its life 😢
I was thinking the same thing
Fr because even he said the area is known to have coyotes. If he genuinely believed that and cared about his dog’s life, there would have been a fence
He's a firefighter with no compassion... that's so weird
I thought the same thing!!
It’s just a title he can flaunt to get sympathy
@@Talking_He4d I was thinking the same thing
That's why he's a firefighter; to faux fill that compassion hole he's lacking.
I'd be willing to bet $1 that his dogs are all rescues as well.
Absolutely weird
Defendant shouldn’t even have those dogs if he’s never home. Obviously the brother isn’t taking care of them or keeping an eye on them.
yea they are left in the yard alone all day so trying to go off and make their own fun. cant really blame dogs for doing what dogs do and without a lot of human interaction they are acting more as pack animals
What a smug jerk the defendant is
He didn't come of that way to me
@@peryole The first words out of his mouth "Was she spying on me?" like neighbors don't just see each other around
@@lone.faerie I would say the same thing if a neighbor was tracking my whereabouts, it's creepy.
@@peryole "I don't see him around" is not tracking your whereabouts
@@lone.faerieno she exclaimed "he's never there!" like it's any of her business whether he is or isn't. It was partly her fault for feeding them. If you even watched this episode video. Also his brothers fault too
I do not understand how Animal Control felt they did not have enough proof if she was able to leash the dogs and they had blood on them. And this Defendant should not even have animals if he has the type of job he stated and is hardly even home or gone for such long periods of time. Obviously, his brother, who lives there is not doing a great job.
They didn't want to deal with the paperwork, or were judgemental based on appearances.
I'd say because he's a firefighter.
Thick as thieves the public servants are. You can see it on the RUclips videos of Long Island Audit, Bay Area Transparency in particular. The feelings police...
Animal Control is part of police departments.
you'd be surprised at what animal control deems sufficient. the people who lived behind me at first had 8 hunting dogs in an elevated cage, excrement throughout it, animal control was called out several time because of incessant barking, then some time after they were taken out of the elevated cage and given 5 gallon buckets with hay in them to sleep on. Once again animal control says everything was fine. the barking continued and more neighbors complained. the next door neighbor called a tv station and they came out and did a story, I was one of the many neighbors who complained. WHen the animal control guy came back out and then was interviewed by the tv crew he stated that no one had every complained about the dogsbefore,
It could have been coyotes that did it like he said. And his dogs came over and saw the dead animal and raw meat and came over to eat.
@@TheAray6 no
Your dogs kill that pony....they were there and had blood on them.... no one believes you.... you are not even sorry about how that poor pony suffered.
agree
I know. Such a terrible tragedy and the defendant had zero compassion and empathy
She seems genuine. It's just unfortunate she didn't come better prepared with the receipts for the costs of her loss.
Agree. She was so unprepared. She might could of gotten something for parties income too
The devil appears genuine
I was thinking the same thing.
@@shirleywiese5230Yea, if she’d had receipts for 3-4 years from what the pony made from being rented out she probably could have gotten something because it does take a long time to train a pony for that kind of thing, to be perfectly safe around screeching sugar filled children.
That defendant has no remorse and obvious no heart. No emotions towards a death of a pony. The Plaintiff was not prepared. She should have gotten the receipt of the fence and also a quote for a pony. This is just so sad, poor pony.
Could they not have sued for the loss of income due to its death?
She sued for the max. It would have to be a separate lawsuit in a dffrnt court.
She definitely should have mentioned it, in case the judgement was reduced below the statutory maximum.
Yes but she had zero zero zero evidence of anything she was suing for.
Pony dogs any animal is property not considered a family member it the same as a car u can’t sue for loss of income for a car getting damaged
@@delonjuan you can if it's your work instrument. Let's say it's the car you use for Uber as a job. As for the pony was she getting money out of the pony? Was it a circus pony?
He's afraid of his dogs losing their lives, but he doesn't care that the pony lost his. And he's never there, and doesn't feed or water them adequately.
It’s almost like the defendant isn’t home and doesn’t even know what his dogs are doing. Also- WHO ELSES DOGS WOULD IT BE!?!? They are literally IN HER YARD.
It was assumed to be a wild animal, not the dogs according to him and animal control.
So I guess there are no coyotes around farm animals….hmmmm…..me thinks it is entirely possible and probable that a hungry coyote pack took a turn.
@@thatlisagirl71 Not a chance. The husky would have kept the coyotes at bay, and they wouldn't attack an animal as large as a pony. It was 100% the dogs found in the yard covered in blood.
@thistles, huh? A family member horse was attacked on two separate occasions by a pack of Coyotes. The horse didn't survive the second attack. The dogs on the property alerted the owners and that's how they knew it was Coyotes
@@missa1goins dogs bark for other dogs, too. Barking dogs = coyote? Okay 😂
Oh my god, my heart dropped to my stomach when she started talking about the pony!
I feel like she should have gotten the fence. 😮 she had to do something cuz he wasn't
Agree. I can’t understand why she wouldn’t have been awarded half the fence. That makes zero sense to me
She should have produced atleast a receipt of the fence’s cost
He actually had no obligation to have a fence at all, he definitely has no obligation to pay her to build one.
@@peryole But he has a legal obligation to contain his dogs.
The horse was her personal responsibility to make sure the fence was adequate to prevent a neighbors dog from getting in or her hose from getting out. If you aren't going to provide that, then you shouldn't have an animal. She failed to. If there is no city or county ordinance that says he has to keep his dogs chained then why would she build a weak fence and take a chance of some animal getting at her horse. And if there's an adequate fence, why should he need to chain up his dogs?
The pictures of the pony really killed me
I was surprised that the pony was not blurred out 🥲
Someone commented that the defendant lacked compassion as a firefighter (wildfires, not civic). Not so strange. It pays very well, high profile, and is a preferred profession for narcissists, as they get massive attention and live on the edge, an enormous ego boost. IMO
Agreed
@@shelberz1Well, I guess we need those types of people! 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly. Just like child abusers are drawn to careers that give them authority over children, like teaching.
So they can abuse children and make a good living (and amazing benefits---and tenure!) while they're doing it. And everyone calls them an underpaid hero. And they bask in the glory.
Some firefighters are volunteering and it's a shame he gives them a bad name. 😢
Some are volunteering and it's a shame he is giving them a bad name/rep 😢
I live out in a rural area where people have a lot of land, and some have livestock, and all I can say is that most folks out here wouldn’t have hesitated to shoot both of those dogs, had things really happened the way she says they did. Either way, that guy sounds like an irresponsible pet owner, and he needs to take better care of his animals, or relinquish them to good homes where they will be properly cared for.
I’m sure if the lady was there to witness and had a g u n on her she would have protected the pony. The damage was done by the time she got there.
I agree that the dogs would have been "taken care of" if they were actually vicious. Boxers aren't big. And if the dogs were getting under the fence, coyotes definitely could have. I think the pony got attacked by coyotes, and the dogs smelled it when they came outside. They got over the fence, and took a bite.
But for the husky to have superficial damages tells me there wasn't a huge fight over the pony.
Also, a husky in the desert is just rude. Also, they're not really livestock guardian dogs. So that seemed fishy to me that she would have a husky as their LGD.
She also said that ponies live to be 40. But their lifespan is really between 20-30 years.
She conflated a lot and took advantage of the judge not knowing much about the subject.
The guy definitely needs to be held accountable for his dog's getting out at all, though.
Agreed. BUT... the horse owner shoukd have installed a better fence as well.
Exactly this. Those dogs were not a threat. Coyotes killed the pony and the dogs probably helped chase them away.
@@deanwinchesterinthedarktower I think you are overestimating the size of coyotes. They aren’t wolves. Not much bigger than boxers and they weigh less, especially coyotes that live in desert regions. Of course a pack of coyotes could take down a pony. But why would they not eat almost any of it. They have very sharp teeth and would have pulled away much more flesh. The muzzle of the horse looks chewed on.
She wasn't "spying on him". Most people can tell if a neighbor is home or not. The lights aren't on, their cars aren't around, etc. Plus, this idiot leaves his dogs in 100 degree heat! What are they to do when the water runs out(I don't think the brother is really taking care of them)? There is something about the Defendant that is just not right, I can't put my finger on it.
I know
And that's exactly what she said to. She said "there's no car there!" I was thinking the same thing though.
Defendant has this excuse, "I was never there, but I lived there. Then the dogs were moved into the Media backyard, and then another park of the backyard. And with no shelter and no water or food."
The judge was so off with the award. Clearly she doesn’t have a clue what training a pony to be a party pony entails or costs. Sometimes I wonder where she gets her “knowledge” about these cases.
They should've brought their own estimate.
@@christynicholas6855 yes they should have been better prepared but to blatantly disregard the value of the pony because of its age in my opinion is ignorant
@@AC081361 Understood!
@margaretakins6829 yes cause the dogs being in her yard COVERED in blood is not evidence of their involvement 🙄
@margaretakins6829 didn't his dogs have blood on them?
Defendant is awful. He couldn’t care less. He’s also a crap dog owner. Leaves them out in the yard. Plus, I don’t understand how he would not be responsible for half of the fence? Isn’t he legally obligated to contain his dogs? The previous fence wasn’t containing them
Very much dislike the defendant
Me too 🖐
I hate people that don’t take care of their animals properly. Don’t have them if you don’t have time.
@@HayleysComet3 Exactly
That fools ears are huge!!!
He definitely doesn’t use them to listen. Big huge ears for nothing.
Defendant is a criminal
Animal control is useless! Shame on them! My dog on a leash was attacked by a neighbor dog that jumped over his fence! Animal control in San Diego did NOTHING but take a report! They are overpaid!
So sorry to hear you experienced this. How terrible.
@@pammers5588Thank you but what I want is for Animal Control to start doing their job! Do you know they have the authority to kick down a door and rescue the dog? They can even arrest a police officer for interfering. Yet they do NOTHING!!!!!
The most unlikable defendant I’ve ever seen on this show.
I was thinking the same thing myself
A pony named Sugar Puff lived in the UK & reached the age of 56 by the time he had to be put down due to health issues, in May of 2007. Wikipedia describes a boxer as a medium-to-large German breed of Mastiff "with a powerful bite, ideal for hanging onto large prey".
To the question of whether two Boxers can kill or mutilate a pony 🐎 the answer is an absolute YES! I actually witnessed this as a child when the neighbor's Boxers came into our pasture and killed one of our goats and a pony. 😭
Decades later, my father-in-law was attacked in his own yard in Yuma. There is no animal control in that area and the Sheriff's Office refused to do anything. Those two dogs came really close to killing my elderly father-in-law and would have if my mother-in-law hadn't come out looking for him.
I am so sorry you had to witness that. Stuff like that lives in the memory forever. I know, been there.
I'm so sorry that you had to experience that. I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the boxers too.
She said she hadn’t fed them for. A. Year. A YEAR goes by without feeding how was she still enticing anything.
She was lying. I bet she gave them treats everyday because they are friendly dogs. They didn't kill the pony.
It wouldn't have taken her five minutes to research the cost of the pony to bring as evidence the thing you need when going to court🙄
I can hear Adrian running for the comment section again 😂😂😂😂
Stop encouraging the loser troll
Me too
🙄🙄🙄
Who’s Adrian?
He usually only comments when the litigants are Black and lose the case😅
WHAT? Why is he not responsible for the fence? He is responsible for retaining his dogs on his property and if he doesn't want to put up a fence, then he should pay for at least half of the cost of the new fence that she has had to put up. And even if she fed 'his' dogs it doesn't mean that would encourage them to come on her property to attack (and kill) her pony...
Sad to say the dogs were probably hungry if he wasnt taking care of them. Hes worried about his dogs lives, yet had no compassion about the ponys life 😢
Dang he shouldn't be allowed to have dogs! Poor dogs on so disgusted with the defendant. Dont get a dog you cant take care of let alone get multiple
Now go and sue the brother.
I'm baffled that man has no remorse for what his dogs did. He has low morals and bad character.
Absolutely Boxers can kill a pony. There are several cases of them doing so. Boxers are an aggressive and dominant breed. And those pictures of the dogs don't show "friendly" animals. I've had neighbors with boxers, while living in rural areas as well as the city. I always am on high alert when walking my dog with a boxer in the area.
0:17 everyones reaction LMAO
-How does she know I'm not there, is she spying on me?
-Were you there?
-No
Boxers are guardians and could totally attack something. They are bred from larger guardian dogs.
Some people should not own animals. His dogs look neglected. The fence was flimsy, too.
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I think the Judge blew this one, even with the condition of the fence, the jerky defendent should have to pay more.
I agree with you totally
Defendant makes me sick, what a despicable person.
Defendant is a real gem spelled J-E-R-K.
Sorry I feel the judge was wrong on this one. You have three large animals dogs that killed….. a horse?!?? that’s dangerous because it could be a small kid next time. Plus this guy said he’s gone for long stretches and can’t take care of them?? You can’t put a pallet and think that’s going to fix a problem. I have 1 Chihuahua and I have to be there every day… with food, clean water and walks. I I can’t imagine someone with FOUR dogs just taking off like that “for long stretches”. And him not paying for part of the fence that can hold a chihuahua back? come on!! she even said that fence is bad.
I agree with you on this one as well. This judge is typically spot on with her cases.
I agree with you totally
I'm glad the plaintiffs were able to obtain some compensation for the loss of their beloved pony. My heartfelt condolences to them. I'm appalled at the arrogance of the defendant, especially given his professional occupation.
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They had blood all on their faces. The defendant is beyond ignorant.
It is so comforting to see that most everyone here follows my logic. The girl is not the victim, her dog is. She is responsible for her dog and would have been responsible for injury to that Border Collie.
This guys is a jerk
Ponies generally do not live to 40; even 26 is old age.
She’s exaggerating wildly about the pony’s value because she does not approve of how her neighbor cares for his dogs. She may have a point, but sticking to the truth and using hyperbole to shine up a claim is distasteful.
Pony’s 26-30 years googles free
Many of my friends had pony’s that lived 35-40. Her pony was part of her business, so he had increased value.
Ponies absolutely can live into their 40s, and even 50s.
You are totally wrong. With proper care, baring a neighbors abused and starving dogs killing livestock, ponies can live to 40 years or longer. You have a lot to learn back in school.
The intro 😭 so aggressive. They eyes on the girl behind the plaintiff says it all 😂
Huh. Doug was…nice to both the plaintiff AND defendant here. I think I’m in shock!! 😱😅
It's sad all together. ONE THING, in the defendants defense, is that people should NOT feed other people's animals. It's an open invitation 😢
I wish people wouldn’t shuffle their papers when she’s talking smh
The Defendant is related to Spock.
Nah, he looks native American, but he's gorgeous and I think he knows it.
His ears are funny
Hilarious😂
The judge shouldve held him responsible for part of fence because is was his dogs digging.. and he wouldve had to fix the problem in order to contain them.. now he got a free fix
This episode pissed my whole soul off! Shame on him, and shame on the judge, for not giving them ANYTHING, for lost wages!
I had a friend who had Boxers. I had gone to his house to visit and he was extolling the dog’s virtues when it suddenly and without warming lunged at me,snarling. I love animals. That experience made me look at them differently
I am surprised no one said the obvious: if she fed his dogs and invited them over all the time why only then would the dogs attack and kill the pony?
The couple ought to feel a sense of shame for possessing numerous animals without providing a proper enclosure to ensure their safety. It is distressing that the poor pony had to suffer due to their inability to adequately care for and protect their animals. The defendant, too, should experience a deep sense of shame for failing to exercise control over their animals, as this negligence has tragically resulted in the death of an innocent pony.
You don’t seem to understand that it is ONLY the responsibility of the defendant to contain HIS animals. She has perfectly contained her animals.
@@oldageisdumb Yes, it's not her responsibility to contain her animals BUT between feeding the dogs which entices them to come over, as well as not doing anything to prevent them from getting in, she failed to protect her animals. She knew the dogs were dangerous and were getting in and she took absolutely no action to block the fence or the holes they were using. It's the same with a dead tree that overhangs your property, even if the tree isn't in your yard, if you know it's a dead tree, you have the option to have that limb removed and if it falls and breaks something, that's because of your own inactions. Yea, the defendant was a dick but the plantiff also never took any action; she's not guiltfree.
@@Fribee83 But she is still legally not responsible
@@oldageisdumb Hah? Everyone is responsible for containing "their " animal. For them protection and safety of the animal for any wandering threats and to assure it can't escape and do harm to others. That's called "personal responsibility". And if she had "perfectly" contained her animals, the dogs couldn't have gotten in.
@@PK-bh1wwtake the L jerk
No one asked the obvious question, " were the defendants dogs covered in blood? " And come on, the plaintiff should know she has to prove the financial value of the pony and how she lost income from it being killed.
Those dogs were not covered in blood like she claimed, I Said the same thing. Also, boxers are not vicious animals, they let her put a leash on them.
You can SEE they were in the pictures!!
They said yes the dogs were covered in blood and had pictures (couldn’t clearly see if it was blood on them or not though) but maybe the judge could see.
That would’ve been proof. Blood on the dogs. I didn’t know that breed was vicious but I would not have awarded the plaintiff anything without more proof. Like defendant said they live in the desert. Coyotes or something else could’ve done that damage to the horse especially if dog and horse were used to each other.
@@bonitathompson1640 boxers aren't vicious, a Chihuahua is more vicious than them, it's more likely they could have been trying to fight off a coyote. It isn't likely at all that they'd attack a pony they've known their whole lives.
What a jerk ! He should be fined at least !
So the lady feeding the dogs aren't liable for any of this? Blood on the dogs doesn't mean they're guilty! They could have been licking the wounds and ran off the guilty culprit!
I think her dog and the defendants dogs ran the attacker off and tried helping the pony. IMO
This case is COMICAL from the JUMP 1:22 😂😂😂😂
I looked it up, and the life expectancy of that kind of pony is only 30 years, and not forty!
She looks like the sort of person to have 14 dogs.
Right??
"She look like..." She's not, but HE is the kind of person who has a group of vicious dogs.
Hes not a responsible pet owner, He knows someone in that office, thats why he wasnt held responsible for the death
The defendant is wearing a really nice suit.
Shame about the person wearing it. Such a waste
If you have horses, and dogs, it is your responsibility to keep them safe with a strong fence that other animals can't dig under. The best way is to install a strong fence and pour a concrete wall several feet deep on your side of the fence to prevent animals from getting under your fence by digging. And be sure to keep your fence in good, strong, condition.
….how did animal control come to the conclusion that there was no evidence his dog’s killed the pony when there’s literally photos of his dogs covered in blood?!
How could she not bring any paper work, stating the value of her pony. Doesmt take a rocket science to have estimated. Pure lazy
Didn't see any Gingers in this episode. I so sad
You need glasses. The judge is a redhead.
I actually disagree with the judge. Any animal is the responsibility of the owner to ensure it's under control. The pony owner was silly not to bring proof of the costs she was claiming, but she was also silly to not sue him based on his lack of control of his dogs. He was responsible for the dogs, he should have been made to pay for the whole amount of the fence.
A Welsh pony costs, at a minimum, $5000. This price can increase by tens of thousands depending on age and training. This was a personal loss for the plaintiff regardless of cost. The defendant seems unmoved by the whole ordeal. The dogs killed the pony and the defendant feels no compassion whatsoever.
Wow last time we looked into buying a welsh pony a few years ago it was around $5,000 to $8,000 for an older starter pony. They can get much more expensive if they have pedigrees
The defendant seems like the type of guy to start fires just so he can put them out
I love the three expressions starting from 0:17 of the two different reactions from the females and the one male.
They did her wrong with that thumbnail.
😂🤣 Right...the thumbnail is the only reason why I clicked on...to see WTF is up with her neck😳🤣😂
Stole my comment 😂
I mean common... She had no chin, just face to neck.
The fact that he has dogs at his "primary" residence are left unattended so often that the neighbors have to feed them is disgusting. He's a jerk and an irresponsible dog owner. He shouldn't be allowed to own animals.
That is heartbreaking.
I Tried Doing The Facial Expression At 3:16 😂
I’m not sure where they got the 40 years that horses live to .. never known of horses living much beyond 25 yrs.
Must have been a miracle horse.
It seems like he has zero compassion. And he's a firefighter??? I would hate to have him come to my rescue... Yikes scary person
Drives me nuts. You would think someone with so many animals should be smart enough to know not to feed other animals.
I feel she should have been awarded the cost of the fence. If it wasn't for his inability to contain the dogs within the secure area, the dogs wouldn't have been a risk. Ongoing they could get to her, or another pet so she needed that fence, it wouldn't be a choice but a necessity. I would have made him pay the lot 😊
Why do people come to court with absolutely no evidence of how their items cost!!? You can’t come to COURT with you hands swinging and shout out a random cost as the value of something ((🤦🏿))
I love animals. They're far better than people are so these kinds of cases are the most sensitive for me. This situation here is just sad and unfortunate all the way around. Protect all animals which should all have a happy home! No excuses
For once, I actually agree with you. I prefer animals over people any day. People suck 😅
@@roach-dl8tuznever agree with Adrian, it’s a trap.
Aww you being nice 😢🎉
Damn Adrian... What you be sayin in these comments typically? 🤣 Got these folks shocked today
I came to the comments to see how many people would be on Adrian's case for whatever reason.😂
His dogs were on her property. She captured them herself. They were covered in blood!! He's a joke. Ridiculous.
Yeah, no compassion or empathy at all for the plaintiff or the dead horse, only his dogs. Defendant is giving me sociopath vibes.
The defendants lack of empathy it horrifying. It is clear HIS dogs have blood all over them and they are sitting next to a pony with it's face ripped off. I believe this woman when she says he wouldn't leave his dogs water in 100 degree heat. This man shouldnt be allowed to be near animals..... ever.
I feel like the defendant mentioned he was a firefighter to try and get sympathy or something from the judge lol.
First off, I didn't hear anything about any violence from the dogs before the pony attack. It seems that's a good reason to not be terribly concerned.
That pony being trained the way it was was worth much more than $1000.
As far as guilt goes.... She found the dogs there at the scene covered in blood. Pretty damning evidence in my book. Wish she had taken pictures. But I'm sure she was more concerned about her pony and dog than a future court case.
Someone else mentioned the income loss from losing the trained pony. Good point.
You know what they say about people starting to look like their pets?🤔🤭🐎😆
I thought Milian had said previously animals weren't treated as property and one could not sue for their pet ??
I hope whoever wants to hire this young man as a firefighter sees this episode and that his lack of compassion and empathy disqualify him for service. In addition, he is a liar and irresponsible. He seems narcissistic as well. This is not the character we want in public service. He actually seems a bit evil.
While I feel bad for the plaintiff there are hundreds of ponies in every state that are free. So many people buy ponies for the kids or grandkids only to ride once, realize they are too much work and not that much fun and then they will give them away. I live in the country and have actually helped rehome 3 in my life for that exact reason.