One of the main functions of the salary cap in the U.S. is ensuring the owners spend the MINIMUM amount of their TV money & don’t pocket all of it. The clever teams can find ways around the top of the cap through bonuses that alter that player’s contract’s cap hit per season. It is very very complicated but one of the primary functions is to ensure the minimum percentage is spent and teams remain competitive. Some teams remain terrible but that’s down to incompetence & fans knowing it’s designed for parity they put pressure on the owners to change what they’re doing.
Well surely an all encompassing wage cap would include a cap on bonuses too. MLS is such an uneven league with some players earning way too much for the league they’re in. The Premier League would be expected to pitch it seriously and cover all bases
I think any type of salary cap, no matter how it is dressed up as not being that. Would be a disaster. It's as though they want to punish the premier league for being so successful. And how would that work exactly? You'd be able to afford maybe one or two players on a big salary and the rest would have to be paid much less to adhere to the new rules? Football is one of the biggest forms of entertainment there is out there. Imagine if because of these new rules you could only have maybe just a Haaland and a De Bruyne and the rest of the team would have to be of less quality because of the wages having to be balanced out. The quality of the prem would go down within a couple of seasons and it would no longer be the best and most entertaining league in the world. I could then see a breakaway league forming that would be like the super league they tried doing from a few years ago, that would have the bigger clubs from around Europe that didn't want to be governed by Uefa. Spearheaded by the big English prem clubs. And what would stop the premier league players from forming a direct union and refusing to play if their salaries would be reduced. As much as we may say that fans make football what it is. Without the players we don't have a game.
💯 All I ever hear about is competitiveness. These people do not know what competitive means. If FFP and salary caps were around when Man Utd were winning leagues for fun, they would still only be as good as they are now but would still be winning leagues. No one could have possibly caught up. I've also never understood how so many people continually complain about every government we have but then insist they get involved in every aspect of their lives. We don't need an independent regulator in football. FFP was only bought in by EUFA because they were protecting "legacy clubs" attempting to prevent further scenarios of the likes of Chelsea and Man City in the fear that the traditional big clubs would band together and have a "super league", which they still tried anyway. Barcelona and Real Madrid insisted on even harder financial rules for La liga so it couldn't happen there. Not long after Barcelona could not resign Messi because of their own created rules and have sold of their future to compete now. We need to be careful what we wish for. All that really needed to happen was for the PL and or EUFA to ban leveraged buyouts of football club and insist new owners pay a percentage of what they buy the club for, and all transfers for a 3 - 7 year period into a "kitty" the money could be returned at the end of the period or used to save the club if it were mismanaged. This would ensure only people that could afford to financially support the respective club and were serious about it, could buy the club. We can't stiffle investment into an entity that's still growing with that world wide growth dependent on the best players coming into the league. Especially at time when others have shown an interest and the financial means to start catching up (eg the SPL).
Boo hoo! It happened in every football league because of EPL or any richer league. Take away all these foreign players, and EPL is not competitive anymore. Anyway, Saudi league is the future.
Setting it as a % of club revenue defeats the purpose of a cap as the intention is to level the playing field between the clubs. I think it would be really interesting as it could break the strangle hold the top clubs have on success.
They enjoy those strangleholds as a result of a natural progression of success through time. Throwing an artificial 'fix' in the works to try and upset that will have many unintended consequences, and probably not even fix the problem. We want our clubs to be competitive both on and off the field, not loose business partnerships as they are in America. Your team can lose every game in the NFL and the owners will end the season richer than where they starter. This neuters the sense of competition and exposes the act for what it is.
But means club stay with there means n cant go bust. So i all for it as a % of revenue. Means clubs will need bigger stadiums etc so will benifit fans.
@@89Ayten Natural progression, WHAT? The teams that dominate Europe win all the time because they have the richest owners. They essentially have billionaire sugar daddies that buy all the talent and trophies. Most other teams can't compete because their ownership can't throw money away to the same degree. Look at every major league and the teams that win are all the richest. Championships are 100% correlated with spending power. Salary caps remove the financial advantage and force teams to win with good coaching, management, scouting, drafting, and signings. Big money has ruined European football.
I'm so sick of the big teams dominating. Every year it's the same clubs winning trophies bar Leicester's fluke season. Teams have to have Billionaire owners willing to plow hundreds of Millions in order to compete (i.e. Newcastle and Villa). I'd much rather there be a way of leveling the playing field so that we get a different winner each year. It should be near impossible for a team to win back-to-back titles, yet Man City have won it in 5 out of the last 6 years. But modern football panders to people that don't actually support teams or attend matches, they're more interested in drooling over the players on social media and buying player packs on ultimate team.
It only limits how big the game can get. There’s a reason the prem is so big and if players can get a higher wage somewhere else then they’ll go somewhere else. This is just playing into Saudi Arabia’s hands and is just stupid to do.
As an Australian we have salary caps in all our major codes. What it does is it levels the playing field and makes the competition fairer in terms of the bottom teams have an equal chance to compete for titles. The richer clubs generally are more successful but it is a better system. The negatives are that clubs that are successful can't retain players. Success forces them to offload players as other clubs have to offer inflated prices to recruit. This really sucks for team loyalty or from a fan perspective as tribalism goes out the window. You have a bunch of players that you develop through your pathways programs and you have to let them go instead of having them as squad players. Like anything there is pro's and cons. I think under that system clubs should have dispensations for producing players and have the opportunity to retain them from long term loyalty.
Problem is some supporters of the so called big clubs don't want a level playing field. They want to go to the so called smaller clubs and take their better players off them, they want to keep the Status Quo. That's why I prefer the Championship, it's more competitive.
@@trevorsaunders580 Exactly. It's just glory hunters that oppose salary caps because they have the most to lose. Fans of the lower clubs have the most to gain which is an actual competitive league.
I think a salary cap really needs to be introduced to football. It should've been in place years ago. The salaries involved in football these days is so ridiculously high it seems to me most players only play for money not the love of the game. A salary cap especially within the Premier League should be capped within a certain amount then let's how much players actually wanna play football. I don't think it'll ruin football infact it'll make it easier for smaller clubs to actually compete more enhance the competition even more
American sports leagues can set caps without worrying, because there isnt massive competition outside of NBA and NFL, for example. The premier league is the best league in the world, with plenty of clubs outside the top 4, showing great progression. There is no need for caps.
would be great for the leagues and sport. But I would be stunned if it ever happened. It would either be set at a level which keeps the status quo, or it would just drive a super league break away into action even quicker.
Should go to a loxery tax system like MLB. It is basically a self imposed salary cap and if owners choose to go over that limit they have to pay a 20 to 100 million fee or "tax" depending on how many seasons their team has been above the cap and after 3 season teams have to be below the cap
@zxctsyou may think that but that just isn’t true It’s based on revenue and the big teams will have had far less of an impact more from the change than the smaller clubs who will get fucked over by this
@zxcts no it wouldn’t even out at all, the gap would only increase with these rules being implemented. When all clubs are limited in spending it’s the smaller teams that always suffer. There’s a reason teams like Leicester can win the prem and there’s a reason the prem is so competitive compared to every league and that’s because they can spend a lot. People always see the high spending as a bad thing even though it’s the only reason football is so popular
@@russellward4624 football isn’t profitable 😂 it’s one of the biggest money wasters possible. Sure there are some billionaire owners you talk about that ‘borrow’ money from the clubs like the glazers but most only buy clubs because they love football and most owners lose money and the clubs that are owned by the ‘borrower’ owners end up failing
So long as PL clubs remain in Profit does it matter - like paying Tom Cruise £100m for one film....but if that film makes £300m profit, why dies it matter ? When it DOES matter is if 15 out of 20 clubs are posting losses. Anyone know the facts on this ?
The reason the cap (and draft) works in America is because the major league owners there enjoy operating as legal monopolies. This is with the slight exception of ice hockey. If you're a young talent in American football or baseball you either play for the NFL or MLB or you wash dishes. That's not the same in football where if you don't like the best offers in one country (including America) you can shop your services around the world.
If the Premier League ever approved this it would be so silly. Have a look at how well the La Liga is doing after they introduced it… not to mention the Saudi pro league. It’s essentially handing over the top spot to them.
The main reason Barca & Madrid have been struggling with it is because La Liga doesn’t allow them to get free money from banks that were giving them money with no interest & a “pay us back when it’s convenient” note. I lived in Madrid for 2 years & people bragged about it while claiming Barca was cheating for doing the exact same thing.
Strongly dislike the idea of capping costs based on club revenue. This just serves the top clubs as it ensures no other club can ever invest enough money to compete. It leaves clubs in an awful chicken and egg situation - you can't generate enough revenue to compete because you're not a top club, and you can't become a top club because you don't have enough revenue to compete. Capping costs based on the lowest TV share puts clubs in a much fairer position - everybody can spend the same money (assuming they have the investment to do it), and then it comes down to whoever spends it the wisest.
@@russellward4624 Yeah I'm not saying that salary caps deal with that issue, I'm just referring to Simon's first point about how the caps would be calculated if they were introduced, and I think that revenue based limits are unfair. I do agree though it's quite likely that if we were to introduce salary caps the main beneficiary would be the club owners. The product isn't going to lose too much value (unless we start getting massively out-spent by foreign leagues), but the costs of running your club go down., obviously a big win for a club owner. If we're going to introduce salary caps we should also introduce protections for the fans around ticket pricing / broadcast pricing etc. If owners don't want to pay players the top wages, don't expect us to pay the high ticket/tv prices.
It is good football needs a rebalance others leagues like Italian , Turkish, Dutch, Russian, Portuguese get a fair share of elite players like in the early 2000s I'm tired of Premier league ,la liga and bayern hoarding all the top talent
@zxcts it would take effect in a few years when the salaries in the PL stagnate but they continue to increase in Saudi. Now they can dismiss it, but that won’t be the case when the difference is so great.
@zxcts yes, and players in Saudi Arabia will be getting substantially more, so the appeal will be there as they can get more for their time and labour than they can here. It's human nature to follow your self-interest, and more than enough will do so for it to have an effect on this league. Players in South America earn a lot relative to the rest of the population, but they still come to Europe to earn more. The same will happen with the Middle East.
@zxcts because the Premier League at present has other football and commercial benefits, such as access to the Champions League and the massive global audience that can lead to better sponsorship opportunities, and also there is no salary cap, so they know their salaries will increase in the coming years.
@zxcts I’m not saying it won’t have access to the Champions league, but that eventually the money on offer will possibly outweigh the benefits of playing in Europe. The Premier league hasn’t always been as popular as it is now, and it’s predominantly based on its financial strength. It isn’t guaranteed forever, and salary cap will undermine it.
Salary cap, Cost cap what ever you call it is the worst thing you can do, just look at F1 what a cost cap creates boring season, 0 competition cause your locked in and screwed until the next year. if they did this city domination will be even greater since they have the most financial muscles to flex compared to anyone else in the league due to there revenue over the last few years they can abuse it before it kicks in and create an even stronger team
There’s a lot of faults with that idea but can be solved. One problem is your in the lower leagues and your a striker and score 40 goals 20 assists it would mean the player would be worth £x amount so that would be difficult to wrangle and what about the women’s game? They’ll be fuming.
In the early 2000s top talent was spread out alot more equally Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, French, Turkish and Russian league had a fair shot of being premier league and la liga teams in European competitions but since then la liga and Premier league and bayern hoard all the elite talent havent you noticed teams like Italy Belgium Turkey Romania and many others have diminished badly
I know you've got bills to pay, but that big ticker-tape advertising in the background is overbearing and distracting. Who thought it was a good idea to place the rolling advert right at head height of the talkers? So when we watch their faces for emotions on subjects, we're transported into Time Square and the raining Chinatown Bladerunner scene.
Simon simping for billioanires as usual. If you look at american sports salaryncaps havent made thier leagues more compititve. Its still the same teams winning every year. The only difference is billionaire owners will make more profits paying lower salaries. Thats what Simon cares about. Protecting greedy billionaires.
Ah. Something else to drive people's blood pressure up in addition to VAR!!. All we know is that the moment one player earns 600 hundred thousand and another earns 70 thousand, the latter is gone the following season. Meaning the English will end up retaining the MOST ridiculously expensive players. Then this whole scheme collapses in on itself. Ah, people who are involved in football!!
Anyone going tk the Saudi league is not good enough for the Prem. Those saying the Saudi league will get all the players, thats fine.. those players arent good enough
That what Italian People said in late 90s and early 2020s: "Anyone going to the Premier League is not good enough for Serie A, Those saying Premier league will get all the players, that's fine.. those players aren't good enough for Juventus, Milan, or Inter" And look where their football league now LOL
That's not true. Right now, you can say it's players who aren't good enough, but if this happens, it will be best players at Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc, if the Saudis offer them everything and the PL can't compete. Football is a job, the players will follow the money like anyone would.
'All the best players would go to Saudi'. Call me old fashioned, being a Manchester United fan, I personally could love a salary cap if it meant I was spared seeing the likes of Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, Cavani, Varane, Sancho, Martial and Pogba et al, coming to my Club and we only signed players who genuinely wanted to come and play at Old Trafford and try and win something for themselves, the Club and the fans rather than coming for a paycheque. Im all for it.
to be fair tho the way utd have done business and wages offered last 10 years been terrible… sancho is on 250-300k apparently.. why woodward offered that amount to a young player who hasn’t won anything … most of the big name signings wer based on commercial value instead of investment on correct player for the position we needed
Question: As a man united fan though isn't the only players on your team that are actually English are the guys you want to bench half of the time? Like say Maguire and Rashford 😂😂😂 Just to give you something to think about...
@@ifldiscovery8500 Wega - A Man City sponsor with no staff, no active products and being run out of a mailbox in London. The sponsorship revenues are a scam to dodge FFP. Its all Mansour's cash.
@@lfcspectre4335because fan bases don't generate revenue. Less than 10% of revenue is produced on shirt sales and what not. Only uneducated fans talk about global fan bases. But thats not even true. If you watched thier pre season games the Asian stadiums were full of City shirts not Bayern or atletti fans.
the EPL is going to lose all their talent to Saudi. this is the beginning of the end of the EPL rain as the top league. This was Saudis plan from the start.
I'm starting to think this may be a rumor started by them 😂 Or they have a few people in the decision making room in their pockets. Wouldn't surprise me honestly 😅
This is something I've wanted to bring in for years to stop the ludicrous spending of teams like city and Chelsea and even arsenal have started to follow suite. I support arsenal but i cannot agree with the ridiculous spending or the wages tbat footballers receive these days. I look at whats happening to players like Smith rowe and i would applaud a salary cap if it helped us nurture our own talent more. The British public are always thought about 2nd behind the immigrants and it seems like thats the case in football now too. This has to stop
@@maxsch8454 they're put before the British people themselves. I'm using that as an example. Foreigners are taking over this country and are always put before the British people. It's no different in football. I'd rather have the premier League compete with teams of a British majority
@@rolocadbury2036 immigration policy has literally nothing to do with the richest clubs in England buying world class players from abroad🤣 they buy them because they're usually better than the players over here.
@@maxsch8454 did I say the English players were better? Why is it so hard for people to read something properly and understand it. I said it would help nurture British talent better and I would prefer to see teams compete with a British majority. They don't need to be better but they should at least be given the chance to
@@rolocadbury2036 no you didn't but I'm explaining to you why clubs buy world class foreigners over British players, it's to increase their chances of success, which is the only thing that matters. Immigration policy is decided by the government clubs buying foreigners is a market force. It isn't foreigners being priortised over English players, it's success being prioritised over everything, which is absolutely right.
Communism doesn’t work Simon. You want to limit the earnings and of the sporting talent but not limit or cap the earnings/profit of the club/owner! Funny that. Would see the lot leave for saudi & simon all smug thinking he has improved things.
This shows how little they know about American Sports. The salary cap was created by the Club owners (take the NFL for example) to suppress the players' wages, overall salary market growth, rights to prioritize health and safety. Make no mistake that the owners have been extremely profitable exploiting all the benefits of the system that they created as it is a multi-billion dollar industry. Would be worth far more if American football was more popular on a global scale. My point is that a salary cap is a fantasy sold by the ownership. My advice would be not to get scammed.
So a scam is an exciting league where every team can build a championship squad? I'll take that over boring UEFA leagues where the same 3 teams win all the team.
Unless the American Owned Clubs revolt against the FA to put a Salary Cap then there will never be one in the EPL. Yes I believe a Cap would be good. It'll introduce Parity. Simon the only thing the worst NFL Team gets is the #1 Pick in the College Draft which England doesn't have. They get the Same amount of Money like all the other Teams, but it's up to the owner to choose how they spend it.
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One of the main functions of the salary cap in the U.S. is ensuring the owners spend the MINIMUM amount of their TV money & don’t pocket all of it. The clever teams can find ways around the top of the cap through bonuses that alter that player’s contract’s cap hit per season. It is very very complicated but one of the primary functions is to ensure the minimum percentage is spent and teams remain competitive. Some teams remain terrible but that’s down to incompetence & fans knowing it’s designed for parity they put pressure on the owners to change what they’re doing.
Well surely an all encompassing wage cap would include a cap on bonuses too. MLS is such an uneven league with some players earning way too much for the league they’re in. The Premier League would be expected to pitch it seriously and cover all bases
Jim white nodding his head like he knows what Simon is saying haha
The only problem I see is that the top players will move overseas if other leagues don’t have a similar cap.
Doesn't matter if the highest standard of football remains in England, which it will.
Will it remain in England if the players that create that high standard start to play elsewhere?
@@chairman-wow How can the highest standard of football remain in England if the best players move elsewhere? ☠️💩
@@kimalkr2413 they wont leave is the point, there is more value in playing for a top English side whom are dominating Europe.
@@chairman-wow They won't be dominating Europe, once foreign players left. Without foreign players EPL is 6th in Europe at best!
Simon, the businessman, arguing against market forces what a genius.
I think any type of salary cap, no matter how it is dressed up as not being that. Would be a disaster. It's as though they want to punish the premier league for being so successful.
And how would that work exactly? You'd be able to afford maybe one or two players on a big salary and the rest would have to be paid much less to adhere to the new rules?
Football is one of the biggest forms of entertainment there is out there. Imagine if because of these new rules you could only have maybe just a Haaland and a De Bruyne and the rest of the team would have to be of less quality because of the wages having to be balanced out.
The quality of the prem would go down within a couple of seasons and it would no longer be the best and most entertaining league in the world.
I could then see a breakaway league forming that would be like the super league they tried doing from a few years ago, that would have the bigger clubs from around Europe that didn't want to be governed by Uefa. Spearheaded by the big English prem clubs.
And what would stop the premier league players from forming a direct union and refusing to play if their salaries would be reduced. As much as we may say that fans make football what it is. Without the players we don't have a game.
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All I ever hear about is competitiveness. These people do not know what competitive means. If FFP and salary caps were around when Man Utd were winning leagues for fun, they would still only be as good as they are now but would still be winning leagues. No one could have possibly caught up.
I've also never understood how so many people continually complain about every government we have but then insist they get involved in every aspect of their lives. We don't need an independent regulator in football.
FFP was only bought in by EUFA because they were protecting "legacy clubs" attempting to prevent further scenarios of the likes of Chelsea and Man City in the fear that the traditional big clubs would band together and have a "super league", which they still tried anyway.
Barcelona and Real Madrid insisted on even harder financial rules for La liga so it couldn't happen there. Not long after Barcelona could not resign Messi because of their own created rules and have sold of their future to compete now. We need to be careful what we wish for.
All that really needed to happen was for the PL and or EUFA to ban leveraged buyouts of football club and insist new owners pay a percentage of what they buy the club for, and all transfers for a 3 - 7 year period into a "kitty" the money could be returned at the end of the period or used to save the club if it were mismanaged. This would ensure only people that could afford to financially support the respective club and were serious about it, could buy the club.
We can't stiffle investment into an entity that's still growing with that world wide growth dependent on the best players coming into the league. Especially at time when others have shown an interest and the financial means to start catching up (eg the SPL).
Boo hoo! It happened in every football league because of EPL or any richer league.
Take away all these foreign players, and EPL is not competitive anymore.
Anyway, Saudi league is the future.
Same teams winning isn't already a disaster? The league is pathetic and boring. Lemme guess, you're a fan of one of the Big 6...
Setting it as a % of club revenue defeats the purpose of a cap as the intention is to level the playing field between the clubs. I think it would be really interesting as it could break the strangle hold the top clubs have on success.
They enjoy those strangleholds as a result of a natural progression of success through time. Throwing an artificial 'fix' in the works to try and upset that will have many unintended consequences, and probably not even fix the problem. We want our clubs to be competitive both on and off the field, not loose business partnerships as they are in America. Your team can lose every game in the NFL and the owners will end the season richer than where they starter. This neuters the sense of competition and exposes the act for what it is.
But means club stay with there means n cant go bust. So i all for it as a % of revenue. Means clubs will need bigger stadiums etc so will benifit fans.
@@89Ayten Natural progression, WHAT? The teams that dominate Europe win all the time because they have the richest owners. They essentially have billionaire sugar daddies that buy all the talent and trophies. Most other teams can't compete because their ownership can't throw money away to the same degree. Look at every major league and the teams that win are all the richest. Championships are 100% correlated with spending power. Salary caps remove the financial advantage and force teams to win with good coaching, management, scouting, drafting, and signings. Big money has ruined European football.
I'm so sick of the big teams dominating. Every year it's the same clubs winning trophies bar Leicester's fluke season. Teams have to have Billionaire owners willing to plow hundreds of Millions in order to compete (i.e. Newcastle and Villa). I'd much rather there be a way of leveling the playing field so that we get a different winner each year. It should be near impossible for a team to win back-to-back titles, yet Man City have won it in 5 out of the last 6 years. But modern football panders to people that don't actually support teams or attend matches, they're more interested in drooling over the players on social media and buying player packs on ultimate team.
It only limits how big the game can get. There’s a reason the prem is so big and if players can get a higher wage somewhere else then they’ll go somewhere else. This is just playing into Saudi Arabia’s hands and is just stupid to do.
As an Australian we have salary caps in all our major codes. What it does is it levels the playing field and makes the competition fairer in terms of the bottom teams have an equal chance to compete for titles. The richer clubs generally are more successful but it is a better system. The negatives are that clubs that are successful can't retain players. Success forces them to offload players as other clubs have to offer inflated prices to recruit. This really sucks for team loyalty or from a fan perspective as tribalism goes out the window. You have a bunch of players that you develop through your pathways programs and you have to let them go instead of having them as squad players. Like anything there is pro's and cons. I think under that system clubs should have dispensations for producing players and have the opportunity to retain them from long term loyalty.
Problem is some supporters of the so called big clubs don't want a level playing field. They want to go to the so called smaller clubs and take their better players off them, they want to keep the Status Quo. That's why I prefer the Championship, it's more competitive.
@@trevorsaunders580 Exactly. It's just glory hunters that oppose salary caps because they have the most to lose. Fans of the lower clubs have the most to gain which is an actual competitive league.
I think a salary cap really needs to be introduced to football. It should've been in place years ago. The salaries involved in football these days is so ridiculously high it seems to me most players only play for money not the love of the game. A salary cap especially within the Premier League should be capped within a certain amount then let's how much players actually wanna play football. I don't think it'll ruin football infact it'll make it easier for smaller clubs to actually compete more enhance the competition even more
American sports leagues can set caps without worrying, because there isnt massive competition outside of NBA and NFL, for example.
The premier league is the best league in the world, with plenty of clubs outside the top 4, showing great progression. There is no need for caps.
That's why the same teams win all the team. I can already tell you're a glory hunter.n
would be great for the leagues and sport. But I would be stunned if it ever happened. It would either be set at a level which keeps the status quo, or it would just drive a super league break away into action even quicker.
Maybe we should cap bankers salary, MP’s salaries, Can you legally cap anyone’s salaries, one for the lawyers
Performance related pay?
Wouldn't it be counter productive if other European big leagues dont do it? Someone should do some study on this.
Should go to a loxery tax system like MLB. It is basically a self imposed salary cap and if owners choose to go over that limit they have to pay a 20 to 100 million fee or "tax" depending on how many seasons their team has been above the cap and after 3 season teams have to be below the cap
A hard salary cap in the PL will result in all the biggest and best players avoiding coming here.
So basically the gap between the big clubs and the smaller clubs will grow if this happens meaning the league wont be as competitive
@zxcts from what they were saying its based on what the clubs make from revenue & tv deals ect so the bigger clubs will gain the most
@zxctsyou may think that but that just isn’t true
It’s based on revenue and the big teams will have had far less of an impact more from the change than the smaller clubs who will get fucked over by this
It means billionair owners make more profit. That's all.
@zxcts no it wouldn’t even out at all, the gap would only increase with these rules being implemented. When all clubs are limited in spending it’s the smaller teams that always suffer. There’s a reason teams like Leicester can win the prem and there’s a reason the prem is so competitive compared to every league and that’s because they can spend a lot. People always see the high spending as a bad thing even though it’s the only reason football is so popular
@@russellward4624 football isn’t profitable 😂 it’s one of the biggest money wasters possible. Sure there are some billionaire owners you talk about that ‘borrow’ money from the clubs like the glazers but most only buy clubs because they love football and most owners lose money and the clubs that are owned by the ‘borrower’ owners end up failing
So long as PL clubs remain in Profit does it matter - like paying Tom Cruise £100m for one film....but if that film makes £300m profit, why dies it matter ? When it DOES matter is if 15 out of 20 clubs are posting losses. Anyone know the facts on this ?
this is the whole point of FFP. cant see this happening
The reason the cap (and draft) works in America is because the major league owners there enjoy operating as legal monopolies. This is with the slight exception of ice hockey. If you're a young talent in American football or baseball you either play for the NFL or MLB or you wash dishes. That's not the same in football where if you don't like the best offers in one country (including America) you can shop your services around the world.
That's a lie. There are other football and hockey leagues. Players who can't make it in the NHL go to the AHL or to Europe.
If the Premier League ever approved this it would be so silly. Have a look at how well the La Liga is doing after they introduced it… not to mention the Saudi pro league. It’s essentially handing over the top spot to them.
The main reason Barca & Madrid have been struggling with it is because La Liga doesn’t allow them to get free money from banks that were giving them money with no interest & a “pay us back when it’s convenient” note. I lived in Madrid for 2 years & people bragged about it while claiming Barca was cheating for doing the exact same thing.
saudi league isn’t under same governmance and rules ..
@@plopplop1984exactly... his point is players are mercenaries and they will move to Saudi that is not governed by the capped rules
La Liga never implemented a salary cap and is declining outside the top 2 clubs.
Hard salary cap lmao it will never happen. The players are mercenaries and would go to Saudi or another league paying high wages.
Funny to see Jim glaze over during the incredible money stats from Simon, I think I glazed a minute before him. Lol 🤑
Strongly dislike the idea of capping costs based on club revenue. This just serves the top clubs as it ensures no other club can ever invest enough money to compete. It leaves clubs in an awful chicken and egg situation - you can't generate enough revenue to compete because you're not a top club, and you can't become a top club because you don't have enough revenue to compete. Capping costs based on the lowest TV share puts clubs in a much fairer position - everybody can spend the same money (assuming they have the investment to do it), and then it comes down to whoever spends it the wisest.
But salary caps don't fix that either. It just means the bug clubs owners will pocket more revenue. Why should we care about that?
@@russellward4624 Yeah I'm not saying that salary caps deal with that issue, I'm just referring to Simon's first point about how the caps would be calculated if they were introduced, and I think that revenue based limits are unfair.
I do agree though it's quite likely that if we were to introduce salary caps the main beneficiary would be the club owners. The product isn't going to lose too much value (unless we start getting massively out-spent by foreign leagues), but the costs of running your club go down., obviously a big win for a club owner.
If we're going to introduce salary caps we should also introduce protections for the fans around ticket pricing / broadcast pricing etc. If owners don't want to pay players the top wages, don't expect us to pay the high ticket/tv prices.
It is good football needs a rebalance others leagues like Italian , Turkish, Dutch, Russian, Portuguese get a fair share of elite players like in the early 2000s I'm tired of Premier league ,la liga and bayern hoarding all the top talent
It would just make payments to players go underground. Corruption and dodgy payments would be rife.
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
I haven’t a clue what he said!!
put a cap on TV rights = they are the drivers of the wages
Jesus, I'm back on the thick table at school! Understood 0% of thar 😂
Teams will find ways around it.
New sponsors for city coming in..
All learnt from this is that Simon Jordan is smart man.
LALIGA is loosing their FFP rules and now Prem is harding their salary cap? 😂 Count me in 😂
*losing
All the best players would leave the PL for Saudi or for other leagues
@zxcts it would take effect in a few years when the salaries in the PL stagnate but they continue to increase in Saudi. Now they can dismiss it, but that won’t be the case when the difference is so great.
@zxcts Serie A has no salary cap it will easily replace the premier league.
@zxcts yes, and players in Saudi Arabia will be getting substantially more, so the appeal will be there as they can get more for their time and labour than they can here. It's human nature to follow your self-interest, and more than enough will do so for it to have an effect on this league. Players in South America earn a lot relative to the rest of the population, but they still come to Europe to earn more. The same will happen with the Middle East.
@zxcts because the Premier League at present has other football and commercial benefits, such as access to the Champions League and the massive global audience that can lead to better sponsorship opportunities, and also there is no salary cap, so they know their salaries will increase in the coming years.
@zxcts I’m not saying it won’t have access to the Champions league, but that eventually the money on offer will possibly outweigh the benefits of playing in Europe. The Premier league hasn’t always been as popular as it is now, and it’s predominantly based on its financial strength. It isn’t guaranteed forever, and salary cap will undermine it.
Simon smells his farts for fun. USA loves you Jim White! JW fan club USA 2023-2024 baby!
Salary cap, Cost cap what ever you call it is the worst thing you can do, just look at F1 what a cost cap creates boring season, 0 competition cause your locked in and screwed until the next year. if they did this city domination will be even greater since they have the most financial muscles to flex compared to anyone else in the league due to there revenue over the last few years they can abuse it before it kicks in and create an even stronger team
What they discussed is just one type of salary cap, the worst version. The ones implemented in USA would make UEFA leagues much better.
Salary cap!! It should be a transfer cap based on season statistics. E.G. 20 assists 30goals fair play stats and so on and so on = £x amount
There’s a lot of faults with that idea but can be solved. One problem is your in the lower leagues and your a striker and score 40 goals 20 assists it would mean the player would be worth £x amount so that would be difficult to wrangle and what about the women’s game? They’ll be fuming.
Everyone in football teams shud only be abul to get so much
Hard salary cap needs to be global.
Another stepping stone to base the ESL
In the early 2000s top talent was spread out alot more equally Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, French, Turkish and Russian league had a fair shot of being premier league and la liga teams in European competitions but since then la liga and Premier league and bayern hoard all the elite talent havent you noticed teams like Italy Belgium Turkey Romania and many others have diminished badly
I know you've got bills to pay, but that big ticker-tape advertising in the background is overbearing and distracting.
Who thought it was a good idea to place the rolling advert right at head height of the talkers?
So when we watch their faces for emotions on subjects, we're transported into Time Square and the raining Chinatown Bladerunner scene.
It's an accessibility nightmare.
That 70% cap keeps the small clubs small and the big clubs big ...
It would just make all the worlds best players go abroad, literally would be equivalent to shooting yourself in the foot
Greed has killed football
What a league Saudi will have!
Simon simping for billioanires as usual. If you look at american sports salaryncaps havent made thier leagues more compititve. Its still the same teams winning every year. The only difference is billionaire owners will make more profits paying lower salaries. Thats what Simon cares about. Protecting greedy billionaires.
Ah. Something else to drive people's blood pressure up in addition to VAR!!. All we know is that the moment one player earns 600 hundred thousand and another earns 70 thousand, the latter is gone the following season. Meaning the English will end up retaining the MOST ridiculously expensive players. Then this whole scheme collapses in on itself. Ah, people who are involved in football!!
Anyone going tk the Saudi league is not good enough for the Prem. Those saying the Saudi league will get all the players, thats fine.. those players arent good enough
That what Italian People said in late 90s and early 2020s:
"Anyone going to the Premier League is not good enough for Serie A, Those saying Premier league will get all the players, that's fine.. those players aren't good enough for Juventus, Milan, or Inter"
And look where their football league now LOL
Yeah till Garnacho, Foden, Haaland all move there 😂
@@bobbywrtmNot that bad after all don’t you think ? 90’s and early 2000’s Serie A level is unattainable even for today’s Premier League anyway so…
Gerrard and Henderson getting 700 attendances in Saudi. They can get all the mercenaries they want, it'll never be a proper league
That's not true. Right now, you can say it's players who aren't good enough, but if this happens, it will be best players at Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc, if the Saudis offer them everything and the PL can't compete. Football is a job, the players will follow the money like anyone would.
This is nonsense you can't have a salary cap it will create underhand deals and I don't see the mischief being a dressed
Hard salary cap will make Saudi the true Premier League LOL
not sure I understand this but something has to done, wages are ruining the game..
nothing ruining the game your low socialist policies are.
'All the best players would go to Saudi'. Call me old fashioned, being a Manchester United fan, I personally could love a salary cap if it meant I was spared seeing the likes of Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, Cavani, Varane, Sancho, Martial and Pogba et al, coming to my Club and we only signed players who genuinely wanted to come and play at Old Trafford and try and win something for themselves, the Club and the fans rather than coming for a paycheque. Im all for it.
Saudi can already spend far more on wages than prem teams.
to be fair tho the way utd have done business and wages offered last 10 years been terrible… sancho is on 250-300k apparently.. why woodward offered that amount to a young player who hasn’t won anything … most of the big name signings wer based on commercial value instead of investment on correct player for the position we needed
Question: As a man united fan though isn't the only players on your team that are actually English are the guys you want to bench half of the time? Like say Maguire and Rashford 😂😂😂 Just to give you something to think about...
Another rule for Man City to ignore
Man City is the most profitable club in the world this would never affect them.
@@ifldiscovery8500 Hahahaha how come without a global fanbase
@@ifldiscovery8500 Wega - A Man City sponsor with no staff, no active products and being run out of a mailbox in London. The sponsorship revenues are a scam to dodge FFP. Its all Mansour's cash.
@@lfcspectre4335because fan bases don't generate revenue. Less than 10% of revenue is produced on shirt sales and what not. Only uneducated fans talk about global fan bases. But thats not even true. If you watched thier pre season games the Asian stadiums were full of City shirts not Bayern or atletti fans.
@@ifldiscovery8500Is that what the Man City financial Dept. told you 😂
Isn't it amazing how since the red cartel stopped winning they always want to change the rules 😂
They will all flood the Saudi league
Disaster. Would immediately secede the prestige of the premier league to saudi.
Won't happen. No way the Premier League will give up their dominance of world club football.
They should scrap all this financial control FFP rubbish and just let owners spend as much or as little as they wish.
the EPL is going to lose all their talent to Saudi. this is the beginning of the end of the EPL rain as the top league. This was Saudis plan from the start.
I'm starting to think this may be a rumor started by them 😂 Or they have a few people in the decision making room in their pockets. Wouldn't surprise me honestly 😅
Do this and more players will go to Saudi
This is something I've wanted to bring in for years to stop the ludicrous spending of teams like city and Chelsea and even arsenal have started to follow suite. I support arsenal but i cannot agree with the ridiculous spending or the wages tbat footballers receive these days. I look at whats happening to players like Smith rowe and i would applaud a salary cap if it helped us nurture our own talent more. The British public are always thought about 2nd behind the immigrants and it seems like thats the case in football now too. This has to stop
what has immigrants got to do with anything ?🤣
@@maxsch8454 they're put before the British people themselves. I'm using that as an example. Foreigners are taking over this country and are always put before the British people. It's no different in football. I'd rather have the premier League compete with teams of a British majority
@@rolocadbury2036 immigration policy has literally nothing to do with the richest clubs in England buying world class players from abroad🤣 they buy them because they're usually better than the players over here.
@@maxsch8454 did I say the English players were better? Why is it so hard for people to read something properly and understand it. I said it would help nurture British talent better and I would prefer to see teams compete with a British majority. They don't need to be better but they should at least be given the chance to
@@rolocadbury2036 no you didn't but I'm explaining to you why clubs buy world class foreigners over British players, it's to increase their chances of success, which is the only thing that matters. Immigration policy is decided by the government clubs buying foreigners is a market force. It isn't foreigners being priortised over English players, it's success being prioritised over everything, which is absolutely right.
Communism doesn’t work Simon. You want to limit the earnings and of the sporting talent but not limit or cap the earnings/profit of the club/owner! Funny that.
Would see the lot leave for saudi & simon all smug thinking he has improved things.
In England you're discussing a salary cap ... In America we're discussing a Relegation system for College Football. ... funny, that
just cap everyone at 280 million
A hard salary cap would be crazy,if this happens goodbye prem hello super league.
This shows how little they know about American Sports. The salary cap was created by the Club owners (take the NFL for example) to suppress the players' wages, overall salary market growth, rights to prioritize health and safety. Make no mistake that the owners have been extremely profitable exploiting all the benefits of the system that they created as it is a multi-billion dollar industry. Would be worth far more if American football was more popular on a global scale. My point is that a salary cap is a fantasy sold by the ownership. My advice would be not to get scammed.
So a scam is an exciting league where every team can build a championship squad? I'll take that over boring UEFA leagues where the same 3 teams win all the team.
A salary cap would kill the EPL. No bullshit.
Unless the American Owned Clubs revolt against the FA to put a Salary Cap then there will never be one in the EPL. Yes I believe a Cap would be good. It'll introduce Parity. Simon the only thing the worst NFL Team gets is the #1 Pick in the College Draft which England doesn't have. They get the Same amount of Money like all the other Teams, but it's up to the owner to choose how they spend it.
Yeah it was pretty clear from 30 seconds into the video that they don't know that much about American sports and how they actually operate 😂
Simon is a clown
Simon jordan is a whopper
Players will just go to saudi