On my Creo SL I've been getting around 2.75 to 3% battery per mile on Sport mode (middle between Turbo and Eco) in mildly hilly terrain with bike, water bottles and me weighing around 235 lbs. total. Without the Range Extender that totals to around 30ish miles if I keep it on Sport. I can tweak it to Eco on the flats and downhill allowing me to get to 43-48 miles. The Range Extender allows me to use Sport to 48-50 miles or so (and the battery starts at 150%), still using around 3% of the battery per mile. I haven't, yet, experimented with the Mission Control other than setting the use of the battery at each mode (so, for Eco, it will use 35% of maximum power, or around 83 watts. For Sport it will vary from 60-100%. At Turbo it's always 100% assist or 240 watts of motor mechanical power).
I've been riding the Aluminum version of the Creo for the last 2 years. A lot of my buddies on the group ride still thinks of it as a cheat. That is until I turn the motor on and pull the entire group home into a blistering head wind! I have the aluminum version which is about 50lbs. It's definitely difficult to ride into the wind and that is why I bought it primarily for those windy days down here on the coast in South Texas. I've raced for years, still ride a Venge on calmer days. I just don't want to punish myself anymore, so I really don't care what anyone thinks anymore, it's too much fun to ride and you can make your own pain or ride ez on those harder days. When I turned 60, it was my gift to me!
*Great **Latest.Bike** . I upgraded the pedals, added fenders and installed a handle bar extension to raise them. Now it’s a pumped out E-Bike. I love it.*
Bought one of these just over a week ago...utterly brilliant and transformational. At 60 years of age my knees are pretty shot and I started to avoid the big and tough climbs on rides and frankly not really enjoying the ride as a consequence. Now it’s a pleasure to be out, extend the range and not be bothered by the toughest bits. My mileage is up again and there is a parallel between watts consumed and smiles per miles. Great review and it was a key factor in my decision to buy one!
I bought mine a little more than a month ago in Portland while visiting my daughter, had it shipped to Tulsa where it was assembled and fit, and I’ve ridden it about 750 miles since then. Best. Bike. Ever. And I’ve owned many, many bikes. This is my second electric assist bike-my first was a Trek Supercommuter +8, which is a great ride, but looks like Pee Wee Herman’s bicycle. Plus it is heavy-twice as heavy as the Specialized. Because of the sheer mass of the Trek, and the 2.5” tires, I almost always had the motor on. With the Evo, the motor is off more than it is on. And with the iphone app, I am able to see what percentage of the ride was done using assist. I love that, because it allows me to play with “weening” myself off the assist, and not be so reliant on it. I’m not a rookie-been riding road for years. After being diagnosed with MS seven years ago, my ride changed. I commute a lot, but add miles to my commute thanks to this bike. I get out on the weekends and run with the boys from the clubs, and I have no problem keeping up both in speed and miles. Also, this bicycle’s range is remarkable! Because of the weight, the motor is off much of the time, extending the battery life. With the Trek, I could get 40-55 miles out of a charge. I haven’t found the end of the Specialized yet. Saturday I did fifty hilly miles and it was windy, and when I rolled in I still had 70% of the battery left. The reviewer here said that Specialized has gotten the electric assist bike right, and I can tell you that truer words were never spoken. This bicycle is a game changer!
Bought the Creo Comp Carbon EVO about 2 weeks ago and have been biking every day since. I ended up choosing this model over the Levo after watching your review.. thank you!
I swapped out the Dropper saddle for a Rock Shock suspension which I think is much more useful I also added the remote assistance changers on the handlebars which is a game changer and to cap it off I put the Shimano Wi-Fi adapter in the frame to show what gear I am in on the Garmin Great bike, 7000 miles in a year
The salesman at the bike store where I saw this model (no test ride yet) told me that the PADDLE SHIFTERS ARE PROGRAMMABLE. So you can configure one to drop a bunch of gears if you want. That's what he told me. Don't know if he's right.
Bike looks fantastic, can't wait to have it in SD. We'll have to have someone do a mileage test as my 378wh on a trail bike got me 40 miles trail and road so I bet this would be right near there or more. Future shocks are awesome.
As someone moving their motorcycle hobby potentially over to e-road bikes. Do you foresee any opportunities to get these bikes for less in the used market or as newer model years come out in the future?
Fly Rides Electric Bikes awesome, thanks for the response. Yeah, I love this bike and tbh it’s probably well above what a noob like myself would need or even understand at first. I’ll have to check out your site to see what options there are for used items
@@DukeOfDC They're incredible. Take a look at the Comp version of the bike as well. It starts at $6500, so a bit more reasonable but still full carbon and the same size motor and battery.
Fly Rides Electric Bikes woah, I had no idea there was an option half the price of this 🙏🙏 how do we do a video collab where I review one of these on my channel?! Regardless I’ll take a look at the Tour option.
I'm an older, heavier, clydesdale-sized rider, (XXL geometry is my normal spec). Is going to work for me? I'd love to be able for once in my life to keep up in the hills! How is the power compared to say, an Orbea Gain?
Looking to buy this bike as ex demo, so a great deal for £5500, I'm in the uk and the bike here is restricted to 15.9 mph on assist! whats the motor cut out speed in mph in the USA??
Thank you for this insightful review. First I came across that honestly addresses the noise level of the new motor. (I think it might prove tolerable.) Two Qs: 1) Have you had a chance to test the range a few times, calculate an average, best/worst, etc.?; 2) Any problem swapping out the single front gear to get below 1:1 on steep climbs? Okay, three Qs: 3) Any intell. re: changes Specialized will introduce in 2021? Thanks!
Rick Van yeah, motor noise is never an issue for me. It’s a motor, i can handle a bit of noise. Ours is a demo we will eventually sell so I couldn’t do my own range test. Hoping to partner with specialized on this at some point. Question 2 I’d have to check with my head technician. I will say we did some 10-12% grades no problem. Specialized hasn’t released any info on 2021s.
Sure you can. On level roads no electrical power. Use it only on the hills and the range will be dramatically farther. That is the advantage of having a light weight e-bike. It is easy to ride without the motor. My aluminum Trek weighs 27 pounds so the road version e-bike is actually lighter than my Trek.
I just bought a 2023 model of the road version of this bike but it's still Winter in Canada so waiting for that first ride. a guy in my bike club has the 2020 model and he can ride a hilly120km with the range extender and still have 10% battery left -he is a man - much heavier than me. It will be interesting to see how much more mileage I can get as a woman who is much lighter and more aerodynamic. A century would be 160 km. I think it's doable.
What’s your thought on the aluminum frame model? Significantly more affordable - is that a decent trade off? Or is the carbon frame importance regardless of the motor?
@@sandraredmond4812 with the available power boost, spending money to shave a little weight is not a good value. An aluminum frame makes much more sense than carbon.
I ended up with the carbon as it fit was a medium and it fit me better than the small which was the aluminum frame. I didnt want to take the chance and order a bike and have the order cancelled as has been happening a lot. By the size chart i should have been a size small and I was prepared to get the aluminum frame for the cost saving but when I rode both i much preferred the medium fit as I did not sit as high relative to the handle bars. I am happy with the bike. I like to ride it with the power off as much as possible and it really does ride well. I have been told the carbon frame is quieter with the motor on and lighter ( obviously) with it off. I am ok to spend a little more to get the bike now. It will be a great bike for a long time. I may have regretted not getting the carbon. But ultimately the size was what mattered the most and so I ended up with the carbon. Just happy to have the bike now in time for the season.
It’s simply not true that you can’t feel when this motor cuts off. You can really feel it, especially in the 3rd level of assist. It’s like applying the brakes. If you stop pedaling the motor cuts off and you lerch forward. When you resume pedaling and the motor kicks back in you jerk backwards. It’s a very unnatural feeling.
I think that what they are referring to is additional drag from the motor. you can certainly feel the loss of power as you should expect, just no additional drag. From riding other e-bikes that is not the case. It is almost like there is some action to charge the battery from the motor increasing the drag while you pedal.
NEVER EVER BUY Specialized e-bike. I bougth a Specialized Turbo S, I think in 2015, so it's not that old. Now the rear drive has a mechanical problem. Went to the dealer they replied that it's an old bike and cannot be repaired, and there are no more spare parts. WHAT, this was a 5000 Euro bike. And now it's ready for the scrap yard ??, a 5000 Euro bike within a couple of years. First of all not very sustainable and very envirionmental unfriendly and towards customers ........ What a crap brand.
On my Creo SL I've been getting around 2.75 to 3% battery per mile on Sport mode (middle between Turbo and Eco) in mildly hilly terrain with bike, water bottles and me weighing around 235 lbs. total. Without the Range Extender that totals to around 30ish miles if I keep it on Sport.
I can tweak it to Eco on the flats and downhill allowing me to get to 43-48 miles. The Range Extender allows me to use Sport to 48-50 miles or so (and the battery starts at 150%), still using around 3% of the battery per mile.
I haven't, yet, experimented with the Mission Control other than setting the use of the battery at each mode (so, for Eco, it will use 35% of maximum power, or around 83 watts. For Sport it will vary from 60-100%. At Turbo it's always 100% assist or 240 watts of motor mechanical power).
Always like to see the results of real life battery tests! Pinned!
I've been riding the Aluminum version of the Creo for the last 2 years. A lot of my buddies on the group ride still thinks of it as a cheat. That is until I turn the motor on and pull the entire group home into a blistering head wind! I have the aluminum version which is about 50lbs. It's definitely difficult to ride into the wind and that is why I bought it primarily for those windy days down here on the coast in South Texas. I've raced for years, still ride a Venge on calmer days. I just don't want to punish myself anymore, so I really don't care what anyone thinks anymore, it's too much fun to ride and you can make your own pain or ride ez on those harder days. When I turned 60, it was my gift to me!
*Great **Latest.Bike** . I upgraded the pedals, added fenders and installed a handle bar extension to raise them. Now it’s a pumped out E-Bike. I love it.*
Bought one of these just over a week ago...utterly brilliant and transformational. At 60 years of age my knees are pretty shot and I started to avoid the big and tough climbs on rides and frankly not really enjoying the ride as a consequence. Now it’s a pleasure to be out, extend the range and not be bothered by the toughest bits. My mileage is up again and there is a parallel between watts consumed and smiles per miles.
Great review and it was a key factor in my decision to buy one!
I bought mine a little more than a month ago in Portland while visiting my daughter, had it shipped to Tulsa where it was assembled and fit, and I’ve ridden it about 750 miles since then. Best. Bike. Ever. And I’ve owned many, many bikes. This is my second electric assist bike-my first was a Trek Supercommuter +8, which is a great ride, but looks like Pee Wee Herman’s bicycle. Plus it is heavy-twice as heavy as the Specialized. Because of the sheer mass of the Trek, and the 2.5” tires, I almost always had the motor on. With the Evo, the motor is off more than it is on. And with the iphone app, I am able to see what percentage of the ride was done using assist. I love that, because it allows me to play with “weening” myself off the assist, and not be so reliant on it. I’m not a rookie-been riding road for years. After being diagnosed with MS seven years ago, my ride changed. I commute a lot, but add miles to my commute thanks to this bike. I get out on the weekends and run with the boys from the clubs, and I have no problem keeping up both in speed and miles. Also, this bicycle’s range is remarkable! Because of the weight, the motor is off much of the time, extending the battery life. With the Trek, I could get 40-55 miles out of a charge. I haven’t found the end of the Specialized yet. Saturday I did fifty hilly miles and it was windy, and when I rolled in I still had 70% of the battery left. The reviewer here said that Specialized has gotten the electric assist bike right, and I can tell you that truer words were never spoken. This bicycle is a game changer!
Bought the Creo Comp Carbon EVO about 2 weeks ago and have been biking every day since. I ended up choosing this model over the Levo after watching your review.. thank you!
Bought one this afternoon. I pick it up later this week. Can’t wait to ride it!
So pumped to try this bike out! I'd love to see eGravel racing be a real thing in the next few years!
We've got another review of a gravel eBike coming soon. Interesting to see a ton of them popping up this year. I think it'll happen!
What do you think about eGravel racing as a sport?
I swapped out the Dropper saddle for a Rock Shock suspension which I think is much more useful
I also added the remote assistance changers on the handlebars which is a game changer and to cap it off I put the Shimano Wi-Fi adapter in the frame to show what gear I am in on the Garmin
Great bike, 7000 miles in a year
Great review. Funny, entertaining, and informative.
The camera man had done such a great job.
The salesman at the bike store where I saw this model (no test ride yet) told me that the PADDLE SHIFTERS ARE PROGRAMMABLE. So you can configure one to drop a bunch of gears if you want. That's what he told me. Don't know if he's right.
Bike looks fantastic, can't wait to have it in SD. We'll have to have someone do a mileage test as my 378wh on a trail bike got me 40 miles trail and road so I bet this would be right near there or more. Future shocks are awesome.
40 miles on 378wh is pretty damn impressive! Yeah I'm hoping J will let me range test the one in LA...We'll see.
Flat pedals work great for me and look great ❤
As someone moving their motorcycle hobby potentially over to e-road bikes. Do you foresee any opportunities to get these bikes for less in the used market or as newer model years come out in the future?
Great question! Yes definitely. We actually sell used bikes from time to time ourselves.
Fly Rides Electric Bikes awesome, thanks for the response. Yeah, I love this bike and tbh it’s probably well above what a noob like myself would need or even understand at first. I’ll have to check out your site to see what options there are for used items
@@DukeOfDC They're incredible. Take a look at the Comp version of the bike as well. It starts at $6500, so a bit more reasonable but still full carbon and the same size motor and battery.
Fly Rides Electric Bikes woah, I had no idea there was an option half the price of this 🙏🙏 how do we do a video collab where I review one of these on my channel?! Regardless I’ll take a look at the Tour option.
DukeOfDC let’s see if we can work something out!
I'm an older, heavier, clydesdale-sized rider, (XXL geometry is my normal spec). Is going to work for me? I'd love to be able for once in my life to keep up in the hills!
How is the power compared to say, an Orbea Gain?
Holy wow! That is a sleek beast!
I want one toooooo badly!
when are you doing a review on the specialized vado sl?
Hey there, these have been tough to keep in stock, but I'm hoping to get one done by the Holiday season.
@@FlyRidesUSA looking forward to it
Looking to buy this bike as ex demo, so a great deal for £5500, I'm in the uk and the bike here is restricted to 15.9 mph on assist! whats the motor cut out speed in mph in the USA??
Thank you for this insightful review. First I came across that honestly addresses the noise level of the new motor. (I think it might prove tolerable.)
Two Qs: 1) Have you had a chance to test the range a few times, calculate an average, best/worst, etc.?; 2) Any problem swapping out the single front gear to get below 1:1 on steep climbs?
Okay, three Qs: 3) Any intell. re: changes Specialized will introduce in 2021? Thanks!
Rick Van yeah, motor noise is never an issue for me. It’s a motor, i can handle a bit of noise.
Ours is a demo we will eventually sell so I couldn’t do my own range test. Hoping to partner with specialized on this at some point.
Question 2 I’d have to check with my head technician. I will say we did some 10-12% grades no problem.
Specialized hasn’t released any info on 2021s.
@@FlyRidesUSA How/when do you sell your lightly used demo bikes? Any chance it is a Medium? I am in Tucson, sort of a suburb of San Diego.
Exciting picking mine up today woohoo but the lower model not the expert model!!!
What is it weight?
What is the Tire width?
These tires are 38c for the gravel option. 28c on the Road ones!
@AG Coarseman Yes,, 42 is well within its limits.
So basically I can’t go on a century ride even on eco mode?
Sure you can. On level roads no electrical power. Use it only on the hills and the range will be dramatically farther. That is the advantage of having a light weight e-bike. It is easy to ride without the motor. My aluminum Trek weighs 27 pounds so the road version e-bike is actually lighter than my Trek.
I just bought a 2023 model of the road version of this bike but it's still Winter in Canada so waiting for that first ride. a guy in my bike club has the 2020 model and he can ride a hilly120km with the range extender and still have 10% battery left -he is a man - much heavier than me. It will be interesting to see how much more mileage I can get as a woman who is much lighter and more aerodynamic. A century would be 160 km. I think it's doable.
Available in Germany?
Great review and great bike. I like the new motor that is designed for lighter assist, size and weight.
Thanks Madeye! Always nice to get a comment from one of my favorite Harry Potter characters.😉
Great video thank you. It would be nice though to do some comparison tests with some other similar bikes, like the Wilier, Pinarello, BMC, Trek, etc
Kurt Digenis that sure would be nice. Know where I can ride em? Haha
@@FlyRidesUSA There is a big heat right now all around the world with those kinds of bikes and we are confused....and they are not cheap...
There are six different models of the Turbo Creo including one with an aluminum frame, the comp E5.
What’s your thought on the aluminum frame model? Significantly more affordable - is that a decent trade off? Or is the carbon frame importance regardless of the motor?
@@sandraredmond4812 with the available power boost, spending money to shave a little weight is not a good value. An aluminum frame makes much more sense than carbon.
I ended up with the carbon as it fit was a medium and it fit me better than the small which was the aluminum frame. I didnt want to take the chance and order a bike and have the order cancelled as has been happening a lot. By the size chart i should have been a size small and I was prepared to get the aluminum frame for the cost saving but when I rode both i much preferred the medium fit as I did not sit as high relative to the handle bars. I am happy with the bike. I like to ride it with the power off as much as possible and it really does ride well. I have been told the carbon frame is quieter with the motor on and lighter ( obviously) with it off. I am ok to spend a little more to get the bike now. It will be a great bike for a long time. I may have regretted not getting the carbon. But ultimately the size was what mattered the most and so I ended up with the carbon. Just happy to have the bike now in time for the season.
@@sandraredmond4812 yeah, have to buy what is in stock with COVID goofing up the supply/ demand situation with bikes
This is great!!!
rijdt al vier maanden met de specialized turbo creo sl fantastische fiets zowel bergop als met tegen wind
It’s simply not true that you can’t feel when this motor cuts off. You can really feel it, especially in the 3rd level of assist. It’s like applying the brakes. If you stop pedaling the motor cuts off and you lerch forward. When you resume pedaling and the motor kicks back in you jerk backwards. It’s a very unnatural feeling.
I think that what they are referring to is additional drag from the motor. you can certainly feel the loss of power as you should expect, just no additional drag. From riding other e-bikes that is not the case. It is almost like there is some action to charge the battery from the motor increasing the drag while you pedal.
Wounded if I can get a US IMPORT
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No lights?
Nope, it's meant to be more of a racing setup. So no lights on this one.
@@FlyRidesUSA at least remove that dork disk please! Yuck!
NEVER EVER BUY Specialized e-bike. I bougth a Specialized Turbo S, I think in 2015, so it's not that old. Now the rear drive has a mechanical problem. Went to the dealer they replied that it's an old bike and cannot be repaired, and there are no more spare parts. WHAT, this was a 5000 Euro bike. And now it's ready for the scrap yard ??, a 5000 Euro bike within a couple of years. First of all not very sustainable and very envirionmental unfriendly and towards customers ........ What a crap brand.
sales manager "Definitely not, never". LOL. #donttelllj . Great video guys. That bike is so amazing. The future is now.
Eric Jackson Thanks man! Figured there’s no harm in making these reviews a little more fun to watch!
The future shock has 20mm of travel.
😢uk are missing out we are restricted to 16 mph 👎👎but this is imposed buy the eu .and we are leaving so fingers crossed
Pedal harder, slacker
I would love to see Specialized put this motor and battery combo into a MTB. Supper light weight EMTB!
No official word yet, but lots of buzz about people wanting that!
Heck no it’s too weak of a motor, u need 80-100 nm of torque on #eMTBs
Larry Conger different strokes!
second that! 120-130 mm travel cross county style bike w/this motor plz.
@@caseycook738 About to release a vid with the Specialized r&d team. They hint that it might be coming but still no official word.