In Norway you need a mountain bike, to use on the road anything less will be ruined very quickly, we probably don't have as good roads as many other countries, many places all over it's like rally because of all the holes shifting from tarmac to gravel many places in all cities, road bikes are only good at brand new tarmac without flaws which is very limited here,,,, also i think road bikes are crazy expensive for very little value,,, also boys in hot pants or whatever it's called looks ridiculous,,, every one here use xc mountain bikes for short comuting,, a couple decades ago or at least the last ten years crazy amounts of bikes and other stuff been stolen, so we can't set our bicycles outside anymore, so some people have road bikes even its not their riding choice just because it's easy to carry and very light and it's less chance of it being stolen because it's harder to sell and not popular among the youth,, I got the cheapest levo fsr and it's been close to getting stolen or tampered with several times even when i was having it in eye sight etc,,, I'm thinking about getting a BMX again just to use in the city because they are crazy cheap compared to all other bikes but it is so hard to bicycle back home from the city which is all uphill,, I'll guess i can only use it one way and take the train back up here again,,, so no ain't getting a road bike just interested in the new brose /specialized motor
I ride e road bike i just think specialized need to bring out lower priced 7,500 is abit to pricey for the average rider my orbea cost 1700 not many riders are really going to pay that much for a road bike
I have a road bike and it hangs in the garage from the wall 24/7 for years now :-) it's a nice bike, a Cannondale, but whenever I think about riding I much rather be on the dirt so an e-bike for the road would be the same problem and furthermore, I recommend you stay the hell off the road so you don't get killed by a car!
oh it can dramatically speed up your commute though. I'm in the US and ride an e-road bike that tops out at around 22mph - and my 30min commute pretty much allows me to safely go that speed the entire time, save for red lights.
I've this bike and living on the Italian alps i can say is... amazing. Engine off is just a standard bike (little heavy), engine on you can pedal up to most famous pass if you are just standard trained. Is not a full power ebike that push you up... is a real road bike with little assistance that gives you the power to climb pass that only a strong biker can reach. Is great also for touring and bikepacking because battery recharge so fast and is a gravel too! The wheels are boost standard so my shop mounted a set of roval control from epic specy and it rides everywhere!
Just purchased a Specialized S Works Stumpjumper Levo. All I can say is WOW!. I had the most enjoyable ride in the AZ mts where i live this past Sunday. I was able to ride twice as long even in the heat of the summer and my average heart rate was 130 and typically on my previous MB, I averaged about 135. I'm 61 years old and typically average around 3,000 miles per year. Now I'm going to purchase the new 2020 SW Turbo Levo for my road cycle.
who would of thought 6 months after this video the LEVO SL would of been Born .. I loving my Levo SL since may and collecting my Creo EVO expert up at next weekend .
This bike and the Fazua system really make sense of you love in the hills/mountains like I do. All we do here is climbing and that’s where it makes a massive difference. Pedalling on the flat at 30km/h is easier on a regular road bike but if you’re in a group you can just sit in behind and cruise.
I have a Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon...with GRX the Gravel version...what a bike! With gravel tires and XTR pedals is only 12,7 kg...not bad for an Ebike Love the 3 modes which you can customize with the app The Bike is very agile and fast From 25kmh when the motor desengage you don’t need it any more...you can cruise at 30/35kmh easy...I’m a MTB guy so is a very fast Bike for me Really love it!
Hey Rob roadie ERB! Get the gravel version out on your local woods trails to rail some berms and boost over some jumps! It's not for me but it's good to see all the ebike technology that's coming out! Ride ride ride!
Great looking bike. And really like the motor. Have tested the Orbea Gain with hub motor (40 n/mtrs), Focus Paralane2 & Pinarello nytro (both with fazua motor 60 n/mtrs). These are all nice bikes and considerably cheaper.
Loved the video man. Very honest comments. I tried this monster, and I agree, this is the way to go. Turn off the motor and go for as long as you can, then turn on, and finish that steep part at a decent pace. Outstanding
Cool bike Rob , and good video . wish i was able to ride a racer again , mountain bikes more upright seating pozzy allows me to still kick the pedals now and again ( it sucks being old ) . the auto change thing looked cool too .
This bike is so much better in the US because the motor doesn't cut out until much fast speed, over 25mph. I bought the turbo creo sl e5 comp which has an aluminum frame. 3lbs more than the carbon model but because it has a motor you can't feel the difference. For thousands less I have a bike that me being 70 year old I can still ride with the young guys!
Looks cool but 15 mph is too slow for a road race bike I generally average 17-21 mph average speed on my road rides depending on how hilly the route is, It could be handy for the less fit rider but for most road riders it would not be worth the weight penalty
Right. No use for such a bike unless you live in mountainous area IMHO. As Rob says ' no different from a regular bike over 15mph' ...tend to disagree with that. Over 15mph (within 10 seconds for any regular road bike user) you just end up with a road bike double the weight and 4x the price of a regular road bike.
AG Coarseman AG Coarseman 6,4 kg kilo to be precise...in size Large 58cm (actually I have it for sale now so if you are interested) so sorry, I should have said ‘more than twice the weight’ but then again, im talking in general and around 7 kg is quite a normal weight for modern bikes. If you want to argue about a few 100 grams, thats fine.. And looking at the price of the cheapest Creo (8000!?) I can easily build a 6,5 kg bike and have money left for a few holidays. But hey....if its important for you to reach 25km/h as quick as possible just go ahead!
I am a roady getting older and now diagnosed with heart disease hence looking at the ebikes even though its against everything i fought against. I am 60 and ride a Singlespeed as well as carbon bikes ,Crowthorne is my patch.
Roads are just for getting to where the MTB trails are! Interesting video Rob, would consider something like this for commuting if I lived in the city, but what really interests me is seeing these smaller lighter motors being used on eMTBs
That thing looks fantastic, I'd buy it immediately if I had the money :) I need the road/gravel bike anyway, especially in colder part of the year when I'm doing mostly asphalt routes in city surroundings just to maintain form. Since forever I've been using mtb for everything, even long road trips, I really need at least gravel bike in not too distant future. So yeah, I don't mind that you cover e road bikes too, that's all interesting
12:26 Do we think we will see a smaller size motor in the mountain bikes? Of course as efficiency of components goes up, the size can be reduced, but I wouldn't get so excited right now because mountain bikes are heavier and they have a tougher duty cycle, therefore it's not so likely that they'll be reduced dramatically overnight. Simple physics of material stress capacity drives some of the components sizes. Batteries are another big opportunities to reduce weight, but material limitations drive that as well.
I have a Giant road-e, but this is another level. Fantastic looking bike. Could you do another in depth video of this bike, and maybe a comparison between the cross and road. Cheers 👍
I just picked mine up yesterday, the thing is a blast. It’s not for me which I found out the first ride. It’s for the more athletic person that wants a easier bike, but I will get there soon
Nice one Rob always the first to ride the new stuff well done. I’m looking at buying one.. can’t trust car drivers though so will go gravel. Saves using my Levo Expert on long gravel rides.
Problem is the cut off, I have a E Hard tail running on Thunder Burts, I'm in the cut off in seconds, not tried a Ebike that de-couples yet. For road applications it really needs to be 25mph.
Nice idea, the main reason for having emtbs is to help you climb those hills, so same principles apply to the road, some hills are too steep for some riders, this will help level them out. Is there any scope for an extra, bigger chain ring to help get the speed up on the flat or downhills once you’ve climbed the steeps?
To slow when we fully pull out the eu we need to start a petition to get it changed to how the USA have it 💪27mph 👊think of all the car journeys that might be reduced .id get one tomorrow
Here in the USA, I do empathize with you: the Euro 25 km/h limit seems needlessly low. I'm currently pedaling just on my own legs, but am shopping e-bikes, and have shifted to looking at what we call Speed pedelecs, or Class 3. It's not that I'm going to go the max speed much (28mph), but even with our 20mph limited bikes (Class 1), you hit that speed-wall and, all of a sudden it's all up to your legs. The assist does not taper off, it abruptly ends. I am a human being, not a dog on a choke leash. . . I appreciate a rev limiter on a car, to keep me from trashing the connecting rods. On an understressed bike/motor? Not so much.
Rob, How do you get the not maximized window to display "Not Monetized"? I guess you chose not to monetize this video on RUclips, but does Specialized monetize you outside of RUclips?
Hi, great review. I have a question, my wife had recently done her chemo. She used to ride but now, she has no energy to go for even a simple short bumps. I am looking for a eBike that can get her to have the assistance to ride and when she is tired, the ebike can take over. Can this bike do that task? I have no experience on ebikes and what the differences are. Appreciate your thoughts.
Wouldn't mind a range extender for the Levo, if i could slip into bottle holder. and add a couple of hundred watt's, may be a cheaper option that buying a 700 watt battery..
Rob only downside is the price, which honestly is ridiculous, even for the SL and Gravel version. Dont forget, that you have to drag around on the flats 5kg+ of extra weight, compared to similar top end road bike. Good solution would be, that they would allow 10-15% assistance above 25 km/h to get it to the same plainfield regarding the weight. Doing 40km/h+, believe me, you will feel, dragging that extra weight around. But hey, if I will ever get this, will definitely find a way to derestrict it, like I did with LEvo.... Other than that, great video as always...... must watch when Berkshire is on. 👍🏼
Chris Farrer No, it’s made by Mahle. www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/new-specialized-creo-e-road-and-e-gravel-launches-just-12kg.6442/page-2#post-84604
Most likely it's probably same price as the twelve different levos which the cheapest is a third of the most expensive,,, the cheapest version will probably be like buying three normal expensive road bikes
I think you should go on a ride with your Roadie m8s but with the assist limit IMO you'll only keep up on steep climbs. If you live in a very hilly area then I can see the value with the speed assist limit, ERoad is where I think where the limit is wrong. I rarely Ride my Road Bike but when I do the big takeaway is it's extremely fast. Just lucky you didn't pass some proper roadies on a big climb wearing trainers, flat plastic pedals and no lycra while chatting into the camera :) I noticed you never rode on the hoods but used the drops all the time.. can you not shift gears fine from the hoods? Small motors for XC bikes? .. I don't personally ride Ebike for XC just up/Down stuff but my bike is actually capable for XC even with 170mm fork etc due to the assist. IMO just making the motor smaller and lighter may cause issues with weight distribution on EMTBs wrt the batteries?
Hi Rob, I’m thinking of getting one to compliment my Haibike. I’ve watched reviews that say it’s a class three. Assume it’s restricted to 15mph here in the Uk? If I went abroad with it how do I make it do the 28mph? 🤷♂️
No, they’ve partnered with someone else and I’ve totally forgotten the name, but it looks like a totally bespoke motor with a new manufacturer in the ebike game.
Singletrailrider The motor is made by Mahle; all this stuff about them doing it themselves is marketing twaddle... www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/new-specialized-creo-e-road-and-e-gravel-launches-just-12kg.6442/page-2#post-84604
dipe999 There are plenty of better priced e-road options out there that ride great (Orbea Gain, Focus Paralane2 etc) - it’s just the Spec model to start in a new area with bikes with a big premium on top for those who are dedicated Specialized junkies 😉
Looks cool , specs and range what a great biiike, wait , what is that noise sorry way too loud . Why oh why take away the best feature of previous motors , being near silent. 1960s minis had straight cut gears in the gear box with that usual whine , why do that when every modern manual gearbox in a car is now silent and the solution is known ? Unbelievable.
I don’t know why the gears should be better than the belt. The belt makes the Brose motor so silent and smooth and don’t forget the problems Bosch had with the durability of the plastic gear in the beginning. Let’s see how durable these parts are. I would never buy a car or a E-Bikes which is brand new because there are too many problems coming up the engineers did not think about or where they have been forced to ignore by commercials and marketing people. This is my experience as an engineer myself for 30 years now.
Too many racing bike on pavement, i have been riding road since i was 8 im now 50s and never been hit by car, just need to force youngster to do road test free at school like we did. I want to get Brose motor kit but can’t find anywhere selling them :(
he’s not correct you are permitted to take it on an aircraft in Australia as the battery is fixed to the bike, just take the extender on the flight. Ref Virgin Australia video
I wish this were true but you are incorrect. Anything over 160Whr is not permitted any where on a passenger carrying plane. Here is the link for Virgin www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/plan/baggage/batteries/
I don't see the point uncomfortable riding position no suspension no grip on the tires slow to brake and limited to 15mph might as well stick to an e mountain bike on the road. Oh and the price hahahahahaha no thanks they can poke it up their bum bum.
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Is eRoad for you? Would it get you out on the road more? Let me know below! I could be converted!!
In Norway you need a mountain bike, to use on the road anything less will be ruined very quickly, we probably don't have as good roads as many other countries, many places all over it's like rally because of all the holes shifting from tarmac to gravel many places in all cities, road bikes are only good at brand new tarmac without flaws which is very limited here,,,, also i think road bikes are crazy expensive for very little value,,, also boys in hot pants or whatever it's called looks ridiculous,,, every one here use xc mountain bikes for short comuting,, a couple decades ago or at least the last ten years crazy amounts of bikes and other stuff been stolen, so we can't set our bicycles outside anymore, so some people have road bikes even its not their riding choice just because it's easy to carry and very light and it's less chance of it being stolen because it's harder to sell and not popular among the youth,, I got the cheapest levo fsr and it's been close to getting stolen or tampered with several times even when i was having it in eye sight etc,,, I'm thinking about getting a BMX again just to use in the city because they are crazy cheap compared to all other bikes but it is so hard to bicycle back home from the city which is all uphill,, I'll guess i can only use it one way and take the train back up here again,,, so no ain't getting a road bike just interested in the new brose /specialized motor
Rob Rides EMTB yes without a moments pause.....but they’re just way too expensive now which is a damn shame.
I ride e road bike i just think specialized need to bring out lower priced 7,500 is abit to pricey for the average rider my orbea cost 1700 not many riders are really going to pay that much for a road bike
I bet your gonna buy an e-road bike. I have an electric dirt bike and also a street e motorcycle.... and it's nice to change riding style and terrain
I have a road bike and it hangs in the garage from the wall 24/7 for years now :-) it's a nice bike, a Cannondale, but whenever I think about riding I much rather be on the dirt so an e-bike for the road would be the same problem and furthermore, I recommend you stay the hell off the road so you don't get killed by a car!
People saying the limit is too low. The motor isnt there to help you go fast on the straights, it's to save your legs on the climbs.
Exactly this. It takes the sting out, then when above the limit it flies
oh it can dramatically speed up your commute though. I'm in the US and ride an e-road bike that tops out at around 22mph - and my 30min commute pretty much allows me to safely go that speed the entire time, save for red lights.
Wow
Just bought one, picked it up last night. Can't wait for the weekend to take it out for a spin. Informative video.
Bloody hell Rob!!!!! Now I want another bike!!! Looks awesome, good review from an mtb perspective
I've this bike and living on the Italian alps i can say is... amazing. Engine off is just a standard bike (little heavy), engine on you can pedal up to most famous pass if you are just standard trained. Is not a full power ebike that push you up... is a real road bike with little assistance that gives you the power to climb pass that only a strong biker can reach. Is great also for touring and bikepacking because battery recharge so fast and is a gravel too! The wheels are boost standard so my shop mounted a set of roval control from epic specy and it rides everywhere!
Just purchased a Specialized S Works Stumpjumper Levo. All I can say is WOW!. I had the most enjoyable ride in the AZ mts where i live this past Sunday. I was able to ride twice as long even in the heat of the summer and my average heart rate was 130 and typically on my previous MB, I averaged about 135. I'm 61 years old and typically average around 3,000 miles per year. Now I'm going to purchase the new 2020 SW Turbo Levo for my road cycle.
who would of thought 6 months after this video the LEVO SL would of been Born .. I loving my Levo SL since may and collecting my Creo EVO expert up at next weekend .
This bike and the Fazua system really make sense of you love in the hills/mountains like I do. All we do here is climbing and that’s where it makes a massive difference. Pedalling on the flat at 30km/h is easier on a regular road bike but if you’re in a group you can just sit in behind and cruise.
nice bit of kit in the gravel model.....would make me get back to just two bikes....the levo and creo
I have a Specialized Turbo Creo SL Comp Carbon...with GRX the Gravel version...what a bike! With gravel tires and XTR pedals is only 12,7 kg...not bad for an Ebike
Love the 3 modes which you can customize with the app
The Bike is very agile and fast
From 25kmh when the motor desengage you don’t need it any more...you can cruise at 30/35kmh easy...I’m a MTB guy so is a very fast Bike for me
Really love it!
That's a pretty sweet bike. I've always been a mountain only guy till about 2 months ago.
Rob, I bet you had fun passing those two Roadies at 2:52 ... at least they didn't cry out and whine that you were going to fast!??
Hey Rob roadie ERB! Get the gravel version out on your local woods trails to rail some berms and boost over some jumps! It's not for me but it's good to see all the ebike technology that's coming out! Ride ride ride!
Great looking bike. And really like the motor. Have tested the Orbea Gain with hub motor (40 n/mtrs), Focus Paralane2 & Pinarello nytro (both with fazua motor 60 n/mtrs). These are all nice bikes and considerably cheaper.
BALDe-Biker Totally agree, Specialized pricing on this is as usual pretty ridiculous.
Loved the video man. Very honest comments. I tried this monster, and I agree, this is the way to go. Turn off the motor and go for as long as you can, then turn on, and finish that steep part at a decent pace. Outstanding
Cool bike Rob , and good video .
wish i was able to ride a racer again , mountain bikes more upright seating pozzy allows me to still kick the pedals now and again ( it sucks being old ) .
the auto change thing looked cool too .
This bike is so much better in the US because the motor doesn't cut out until much fast speed, over 25mph.
I bought the turbo creo sl e5 comp which has an aluminum frame. 3lbs more than the carbon model but because it has a motor you can't feel the difference. For thousands less I have a bike that me being 70 year old I can still ride with the young guys!
you can derestrict it for like 200usd :)
Looks cool but 15 mph is too slow for a road race bike I generally average 17-21 mph average speed on my road rides depending on how hilly the route is, It could be handy for the less fit rider but for most road riders it would not be worth the weight penalty
Its worth giving a go, after the 15mph its like a regular bike, no resistance what so ever... :-)
@@RobRidesEMTB what e mtb have you tested thats close to the resistance on this bike ?
@@RobRidesEMTB would definitely like to try one and feel what it's like over the 15mph 👍
Right. No use for such a bike unless you live in mountainous area IMHO. As Rob says ' no different from a regular bike over 15mph' ...tend to disagree with that. Over 15mph (within 10 seconds for any regular road bike user) you just end up with a road bike double the weight and 4x the price of a regular road bike.
AG Coarseman AG Coarseman 6,4 kg kilo to be precise...in size Large 58cm (actually I have it for sale now so if you are interested) so sorry, I should have said ‘more than twice the weight’ but then again, im talking in general and around 7 kg is quite a normal weight for modern bikes. If you want to argue about a few 100 grams, thats fine.. And looking at the price of the cheapest Creo (8000!?) I can easily build a 6,5 kg bike and have money left for a few holidays. But hey....if its important for you to reach 25km/h as quick as possible just go ahead!
Kuddos to that lady doing the moonwalk during the b-roll 🤣
Rob you're a prophet, you predicted the arrival of the Levo SL with the Creo motor!
nice review . i think the motor noise did intrude into the smooth riding experience .
I am a roady getting older and now diagnosed with heart disease hence looking at the ebikes even though its against everything i fought against.
I am 60 and ride a Singlespeed as well as carbon bikes ,Crowthorne is my patch.
Roads are just for getting to where the MTB trails are! Interesting video Rob, would consider something like this for commuting if I lived in the city, but what really interests me is seeing these smaller lighter motors being used on eMTBs
That thing looks fantastic, I'd buy it immediately if I had the money :) I need the road/gravel bike anyway, especially in colder part of the year when I'm doing mostly asphalt routes in city surroundings just to maintain form. Since forever I've been using mtb for everything, even long road trips, I really need at least gravel bike in not too distant future. So yeah, I don't mind that you cover e road bikes too, that's all interesting
12:26 Do we think we will see a smaller size motor in the mountain bikes? Of course as efficiency of components goes up, the size can be reduced, but I wouldn't get so excited right now because mountain bikes are heavier and they have a tougher duty cycle, therefore it's not so likely that they'll be reduced dramatically overnight. Simple physics of material stress capacity drives some of the components sizes. Batteries are another big opportunities to reduce weight, but material limitations drive that as well.
In the UK I really do not see the point of this bike. Rob you need to ride a comparative priced road bike and decide if the motor is needed.
I kind of agree. I just gotten into road riding and have been amazed at how easy it is to put in the miles.
I rode treks Domane+ which is their e racer. Here in the US it has a 28mph cutoff. My lord that thing was fast. I don't ride street but I had a blast
I have a Giant road-e, but this is another level. Fantastic looking bike. Could you do another in depth video of this bike, and maybe a comparison between the cross and road. Cheers 👍
I will try to if there's enough interest in the vid!
Thanks 👍
I just picked mine up yesterday, the thing is a blast. It’s not for me which I found out the first ride. It’s for the more athletic person that wants a easier bike, but I will get there soon
Do you know if the 50NM SL 1.2 motor is going into the road bikes?
Nice one Rob always the first to ride the new stuff well done. I’m looking at buying one.. can’t trust car drivers though so will go gravel. Saves using my Levo Expert on long gravel rides.
Cheers dude - I really want to try the new Gravel version!
Problem is the cut off, I have a E Hard tail running on Thunder Burts, I'm in the cut off in seconds, not tried a Ebike that de-couples yet. For road applications it really needs to be 25mph.
Nice idea, the main reason for having emtbs is to help you climb those hills, so same principles apply to the road, some hills are too steep for some riders, this will help level them out. Is there any scope for an extra, bigger chain ring to help get the speed up on the flat or downhills once you’ve climbed the steeps?
Plastic gearing inside these is an issue. I've heard of lots of people needing to get new motors on the creo
Did I see this wrong or are the screws for the charging port rusting? (10:40)
nice like the diversity thanks again Rob
Cheers Jonathan - not so sure how a eRoad vid would go down!
Rob, What is the power like in comparison to the Levo? i.e. Turbo on the Creo is like Eco, Trail on the Levo?
Great vid. Did bike come fitted with Di2? If so how much was bike with that spec?
Great video, I want one!
Great bike! Need this tech on levo/ E mtb!
It's done
Great video as always. Would be very interesting to try the gravel version and compare it to a mountains ebike in the dirt to see it would compare
Does it have a built in cadence sensor and a power meter so I can use my Garmin Edge to see the data?
Yes, You can read speed, cadence, power, battery level and support mode on your Garmin
Thank you. I figured it must. That’s great.
To slow when we fully pull out the eu we need to start a petition to get it changed to how the USA have it 💪27mph 👊think of all the car journeys that might be reduced .id get one tomorrow
Here in the USA, I do empathize with you: the Euro 25 km/h limit seems needlessly low.
I'm currently pedaling just on my own legs, but am shopping e-bikes, and have shifted to looking at what we call Speed pedelecs, or Class 3. It's not that I'm going to go the max speed much (28mph), but even with our 20mph limited bikes (Class 1), you hit that speed-wall and, all of a sudden it's all up to your legs. The assist does not taper off, it abruptly ends.
I am a human being, not a dog on a choke leash. . . I appreciate a rev limiter on a car, to keep me from trashing the connecting rods. On an understressed bike/motor?
Not so much.
Rob, How do you get the not maximized window to display "Not Monetized"? I guess you chose not to monetize this video on RUclips, but does Specialized monetize you outside of RUclips?
Hi Rob, what was your average speed? I mean the bike is heavy and are you able to cruise about 18 to 20 mph? What do you think?
The gravel version would be interesting. Feel free to show up in future. But, unfortunately, to expensive for a second "first class E-bike" 😢
Is a gravel already, you can mount up to 42mm tires or 650b 50mm.
Hi, great review. I have a question, my wife had recently done her chemo. She used to ride but now, she has no energy to go for even a simple short bumps. I am looking for a eBike that can get her to have the assistance to ride and when she is tired, the ebike can take over. Can this bike do that task? I have no experience on ebikes and what the differences are. Appreciate your thoughts.
Do you think they'll be able to reduce weight to 10kgs e road bikes in future? that would be sick
Rodie Rob! Love it! Great to see you trying something new!
A turbo epic your all welcome
Awesome. I'm looking for a new commuter
Wouldn't mind a range extender for the Levo, if i could slip into bottle holder. and add a couple of hundred watt's, may be a cheaper option that buying a 700 watt battery..
When you exceed the set limit and the motor disengages, is there crank resistance? I know that with the motor off, there is crank resistance.
There is only 2.8 watts of resistance which is basically nothing
Rob Rides EMTB thank you so much 🙏
Rob only downside is the price, which honestly is ridiculous, even for the SL and Gravel version. Dont forget, that you have to drag around on the flats 5kg+ of extra weight, compared to similar top end road bike.
Good solution would be, that they would allow 10-15% assistance above 25 km/h to get it to the same plainfield regarding the weight. Doing 40km/h+, believe me, you will feel, dragging that extra weight around. But hey, if I will ever get this, will definitely find a way to derestrict it, like I did with LEvo....
Other than that, great video as always...... must watch when Berkshire is on. 👍🏼
How do the air travel personnel know it's an ebike with a battery inside? I'm referring to the Creo SL.
Isn't the motor still made for Specialized by Brose?
Chris Farrer No, it’s made by Mahle. www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/new-specialized-creo-e-road-and-e-gravel-launches-just-12kg.6442/page-2#post-84604
Did you mention with any word the pricepoint of this bike. Is it in the same rediciolous range as their mountainbikes are?
Most likely it's probably same price as the twelve different levos which the cheapest is a third of the most expensive,,, the cheapest version will probably be like buying three normal expensive road bikes
I think you should go on a ride with your Roadie m8s but with the assist limit IMO you'll only keep up on steep climbs.
If you live in a very hilly area then I can see the value with the speed assist limit, ERoad is where I think where the limit is wrong.
I rarely Ride my Road Bike but when I do the big takeaway is it's extremely fast.
Just lucky you didn't pass some proper roadies on a big climb wearing trainers, flat plastic pedals and no lycra while chatting into the camera :)
I noticed you never rode on the hoods but used the drops all the time.. can you not shift gears fine from the hoods?
Small motors for XC bikes? .. I don't personally ride Ebike for XC just up/Down stuff but my bike is actually capable for XC even with 170mm fork etc due to the assist. IMO just making the motor smaller and lighter may cause issues with weight distribution on EMTBs wrt the batteries?
Hi Rob, I’m thinking of getting one to compliment my Haibike. I’ve watched reviews that say it’s a class three. Assume it’s restricted to 15mph here in the Uk? If I went abroad with it how do I make it do the 28mph? 🤷♂️
Planet 3
I want this smaller motor and a lighter battery in the Levo or next gen eMTB.
4-02-2020 you win man
Who made this motor for specialized, Brose?
No, they’ve partnered with someone else and I’ve totally forgotten the name, but it looks like a totally bespoke motor with a new manufacturer in the ebike game.
Rob Rides EMTB okay looks good without the belt!!
Singletrailrider The motor is made by Mahle; all this stuff about them doing it themselves is marketing twaddle... www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/new-specialized-creo-e-road-and-e-gravel-launches-just-12kg.6442/page-2#post-84604
Not a road cyclist, but rode only in the drops. We actually ride on the hoods buddy, unless your very flexible. 😅
what the hell is that noise , is that the same as the Levo sl
So battery is welded into the frame???
no. it can come out with a 20 minute or so disassmbly.
$12000 AUD for the cheaper version at my local shop. I think I'll wait a few years.......
dipe999 There are plenty of better priced e-road options out there that ride great (Orbea Gain, Focus Paralane2 etc) - it’s just the Spec model to start in a new area with bikes with a big premium on top for those who are dedicated Specialized junkies 😉
Please get a wireless lav mic for interviews like this!
Yeah I use a shotgun but need 2 wireless Lav mic really.
Have a Levo, also have a Tarmac Comp road bike. I wouldn't change the Tarmac for a Creo.
These bike are severely crippled in the UK by being limited to 25kph whereas they are 45kph (28mph) in the US (but maybe that is ok for beginners)
We commonly exceed 30mph in the states on ebikes. Too slow here for sure.
No belt ? that would be good, i just broke mine in the middle of my vacation.
That's a nice but of kit
In the US I believe it has a 25 mph limit.
question mark speed in US is as high as 28 mph depending on state.
Had that girl forgotten something and was going back(wards) to get it? ;-)
Wondered who would be the first to notice that!
@@RobRidesEMTB I have noticed it too.
Looks cool , specs and range what a great biiike, wait , what is that noise sorry way too loud . Why oh why take away the best feature of previous motors , being near silent. 1960s minis had straight cut gears in the gear box with that usual whine , why do that when every modern manual gearbox in a car is now silent and the solution is known ? Unbelievable.
It’s not that loud in real life to be honest... GoPro is always amplifying those frequencies 👍
Bypass the 15mph restriction and imagine it helping you cruise at 30mph... 👌👍
😆😂
Dont need to imagine , 45kmph speed cut here , as stock
@@CarkeekW that sounds badass. What kind of bike??
Riding With The Reid's another ebike channel was reporting this bike had a 28mph limit I. Europe.
Ride on the hoods Rob.
I don’t know why the gears should be better than the belt. The belt makes the Brose motor so silent and smooth and don’t forget the problems Bosch had with the durability of the plastic gear in the beginning. Let’s see how durable these parts are. I would never buy a car or a E-Bikes which is brand new because there are too many problems coming up the engineers did not think about or where they have been forced to ignore by commercials and marketing people. This is my experience as an engineer myself for 30 years now.
Other than for climbs its a bit pointless tbh as a roadie spends most of the time above the limit anyway.
A lot of gear crunching lol
😳😳😳😂
Would be awesome to do a comparison of this vs the Focus Paralane2
Too many racing bike on pavement, i have been riding road since i was 8 im now 50s and never been hit by car, just need to force youngster to do road test free at school like we did.
I want to get Brose motor kit but can’t find anywhere selling them :(
what the hell is that noise ,
he’s not correct you are permitted to take it on an aircraft in Australia as the battery is fixed to the bike, just take the extender on the flight. Ref Virgin Australia video
I wish this were true but you are incorrect. Anything over 160Whr is not permitted any where on a passenger carrying plane. Here is the link for Virgin www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/plan/baggage/batteries/
Sleek bike!
Looks pretty neat doesn't it?!
I don't see the point uncomfortable riding position no suspension no grip on the tires slow to brake and limited to 15mph might as well stick to an e mountain bike on the road.
Oh and the price hahahahahaha no thanks they can poke it up their bum bum.
28mph in US version, anything less is stupid
Nice bike but not paying nearly 8 grand for a bike.
You can tell you're a mtber by the way you mash the peddles...
£7500? - the cycling world has truly lost its marbles... what percentage of cyclists could afford this?
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Boring
Thought I’d add a bit of variety but don’t worry normal emtb service will resume after this vid!
Unfortunately you don't look like a road bike rider.
Don’t see the point of e road bikes 😂 that’s why there light weight fast road bikes don’t need heavy limited motors added
No belt ? that would be good, i just broke mine in the middle of my vacation.