You forgot about digging a hole through the center of the earth, so Metrolink riders can reach South Africa without wasting time traveling the long way.
I know most of this was a joke, but once you mentioned extending to Menifee, Murrieta and Temecula, and putting a station in Yorba Linda/Anaheim Hills, I'm in board!
Happy AFD from Alberta! Great video. Hopefully we'll get an earnest version of this soon too! Personally Metrolink should go with Battery Electric Multiple Units and try and double track all of the routes. It would be nice to see overhead power with tons of voltage but the cost of that is pretty unlikely. Using fast-charing BEMU's on the other hand? Already a thing on the Great Western Railway in London using old rolling stock adapted for new use. And it only takes 4 minutes to re-charge during station stops and has a range of like 73 miles which covers almost all of these routes to the end... Personally I want to see the Antelope Valley line extended to both California City and Tehachapi since the planning study was already positive about this prospect before... Plus with the cost of housing being the lowest in Southern California it seems natural to want to both grow the city as a commuter railroad suburb and as a regional hub that it was always meant to be... Especially when the city currently has 42,000 vacant but serviced lots now by last count...
I would much sooner recommend synthesizing diesel by the Fischer-Tropsch process than a battery electric fleet- at least until battery technology gets better. AV line to California City/ Tehachapi would be legit!
There's some more low-hanging fruit that we can take advantage of. The old Santa Paula Branch Line can be reopened, connecting Ventura with Santa Clarita and allowing for the development of an entire valley around rail-based transportation, instead of freeways; plus, it would give an alternate routing if Santa Susana Tunnel is blocked. The Antelope Valley Line can extend north a ways to Mojave, making the connection up to Mammoth a simple matter. You mentioned the opportunities for connecting to Calexico via Bombay Beach: let's reopen the Tecate line between Tijuana and Mexicali (further improving rail access to the southern end of the Pacific Crest Trail in Campo).
You didnt address that the Cal State La platform can only fit the west most 3 cars, shouldn't that also be extended to futureproof for 50 car consists?
I had a few chances to take the Metro from Santa Ana to La Sierra in Riverside. I still had to be driven to Santa Ana from Long Beach, and I needed a ride to the house from the Riverside station. But not driving on the 91 was such a treat. I occasionally made requests for Metro to create a 405 line from Santa Clarita to Irvine, which would have made public transit from LB to work on Costa Mesa feasible. (I refused to spend two hours on buses when I could drive in half an hour.) I knew it was less likely to happen than winning the lottery, but I still asked. Getting to South Coast Plaza, the Irvine Spectrum, or the Getty Center by rail sounded fantastic. Still does.
The loop back to CSUCI would be a waste. There already is a (largely unoccupied) bus from Camarillo station to CSUCI that, even with the transfer wait time, is much faster and shorter to CSUCI. And there are no people and no tracks across that farm land between Oxnard College and CSUCI, where another unused bus already exists.
I just came across this video. I had wondered why Metrolink is not the world-class commuter rail system I think it should be. Well, it sounds like their running on freight rail tracks with most routes is at least part of the answer. I had not known that most of the tracks they run on aren’t even owned by them. Now it makes all the sense in the world.
2:50 one of your dreams is semi-coming true. Metro is adding a bus link between the two stations with a re-route of line 268 starting in late June 2024.
I assumed there was mostly parody here, but I didn't even check to see if it was a parody until I saw 2 train lines stopping in Beaumont, which is what made me finally go "Wait a second.... I live there, this has to be a total joke!"
Was wondering why this recommended to me until I saw the Proterra mention. Unfortunately the factory was closed last year. Plus following that Proterra went through bankruptcy and the bus division was sold to Phoenix Motor .
Pretty much I wonder why Foothill Transit bought electric buses from that company and 70% of their electric buses were out of service due to mechanical and battery problems.
8:51 They should revive the San Diegan as a new Amtrak Corridor Route from San Diego to Las Vegas Nevada, using this original abandoned route between Oceanside and Hemet, then continue on the 91 Line Until Riverside, then pass through San Bernardino Depot, and then pass through the same route of the Southwest Chief from San Bernardino to Barstow, and then travel the Same Route as the Desert Wind did since 1997 all the way to Las Vegas where the train terminates. It will use the Bilevel California Cars or Siemens Venture or Airo Trains.
You’re missing the point for the OC line. It would obviously be cheaper to get rid of the tracks altogether, turn it into a bike trail, and extend the Disneyland Monorail to Oceanside.
I know this is partly parody, however people will take what you say to heart that don’t know. The Arrow is a heavy rail (not light rail) that is simply a Multiple Unit diesel (or soon to include H2-it’s so quiet you won’t even know it’s coming) that has similar challenges getting up grade. The Stadler FLIRT can include an OCS Electric MU type, but that’s not likely with the NIMBY set.
Oh, just imagine that the new Desert Line may be belong to BNSF Freight trains from Tucson, AZ to Barstow, CA. Called BNSF M-TUCBAR in the future of the circumstances.
The old PE RoW needs to come back down the middle of OC via Stanton. As of the early 80s the rails were still there at grade crossings when I got my license but are long gone now.
Hi, I can probably answer a few questions about the Ventura County line. (But my info is outdated because I took it back in 2019...) In general, the trains only go to Moorpark. Simi Valley is an Amtrak stop, so riders can connect with the pacific surfliner there. I'm not sure why riders would connect with the pacific surfliner with the Ventura County Line though because the surfliner usually goes to L.A. Union Station anyway. All the Pacific Surfliner maintenance infrastructure is at L.A. Union station. The cold foods in the cafe car were out, and they swapped trains at Union Station for a working cafe car.
I can see some real value in building a dual track section like CAHSR (raised track on pylons) in the ocean parallel with the existing line in San Clemente. It’d be cheaper than tunneling, built to withstand seismic and unstable earth, and ultimately have less environmental impact than tunneling under the city.
We need a trolley or something from metro link to john wayne airport. There is a little bus from metrolink to kaiser in irvine. It waits for passengers at the metrolink station in irvine
Frequency kills me. I wanted to visit my cousin in Riverside. I live in LA county. There is no train going towards Riverside in the morning nor coming back to LA in the afternoon. It's against commuter traffic.
You think big! Haha. A little more realistically though, I think a lot could be done, especially if they built some connections between metro light rail lines so that through service could be provided. Some examples: - Downtown LA to LAX: E line from Union Station to Crenshaw/Expo, with a connector to the K line to bring you down to LAX. There is your LAX express - OC-LAX: Extend the C line east 2 miles to Metrolink Norwalk: OC-LAX service with one transfer between light rail and train - Cerritos-LAX: When the SE Gateway light rail is in place, build a connector to the C line at Watts, and then run trains Cerritos-Watts-LAX - There are already plans to run the K line up to Hollywood and down to Torrance that could be extended to the E line in northern, Long Beach, and if there is a connector they could proceed south to Long Beach: voila, you've got a connection from Hollywood to LAX to the whole South Bay and LB. Aside from that as we dream, being originally from OC and lamenting that the OC Center Line was never built...there is such huge development in a single line, if you draw it right. -You are spot on that a light rail should go from Brea Mall to CSUF to DT Fullerton to DT Anaheim to Disney/ARTIC, MainPlace, and DT Santa Ana, from there south past Santa Ana College, and meet the 405 line at South Coast Plaza -Center Line or 405 line should both continue from South Coast Plaza, to John Wayne Airport, the business parks just SE of there, UC Irvine(!!!), and Irvine Spectrum/Irvine Station, although that last stretch SE of UCI is not very dense, the light rail should meet the Amtrak San Diegan and Metrolink at Spectrum (Irvine Station). - Really this should be an extension of either the E line from East LA and perhaps the C line from LAX as well. I think there would actually be high demand for trips like Pico Rivera/Montebello/Whittier to Irvine, Cerritos/Bellflower to Irvine etc. esp. for service workers. Final thought, if a third track was built in a few select places, you could have express trains that pass the local trains that stop every mile or two. That would really be great for the trips between major stations around the whole region (LAX to Irvine etc.) at speeds that rival or exceed Metrolink or Amtrak. The S-Bahn model in Germany should be what we strive for, which is soooo flexible.
You brought up a possible line along the median of I-405. While I'm not certain that's feasible, the fact remains that one of the two biggest missing links in rail travel in Southern California is a line connecting Irvine to Santa Monica via coastal cities of Orange and southwestern Los Angeles counties, and which would hit both John Wayne Airport and LAX, with John Wayne Airport also serving as the stop for Costa Mesa. That line would likely have a stop for Huntington Beach/Westminster, as well as at least one, perhaps as many as three stops in Long Beach, of which one would connect to the LA Metro A Line. You also touched on a possible extension of the Riverside County line down to Temecula, which actually is part of the other major missing link in Southern California rail service, which is a line from San Diego to Riverside via Escondido and the Inland Empire up the I-15 and I-215 corridors. In fact, there currently is no transit service at all connecting northern San Diego County to Riverside County on the I-15 corridor. Should there ever be a rail line connecting San Diego, Escondido, and Riverside via the I-15 and I-215 corridors (and I think Lake Elsinore should be part of that, in some way), then you could wind up with both Riverside and Escondido as major transit hubs in Southern California, to go along with San Diego, Oceanside, and Union Station in Los Angeles. the line connecting Los Angeles and Riverside could end there, with another line connecting Riverside to Escondido, and then some kind of light, hybrid, or commuter rail connection between Escondido and San Diego.
@@jpg3702 Not just that, but also to bring rail access to the airports for those that wish to use it. Now it must be mentioned that LA Metro is beginning to do some of that with it's K Line, which is intended to cover the northern end of the area I mentioned (among the things they intend is that line going as far south as Redondo Beach and Torrance, and includes a connection to the E Line in Santa Monica in their future plans). Frankly, that's something that should have been done many years ago, although, as mentioned in this video regarding San Clemente, as well as with the bluffs in Del Mar, they can't go too close to the coast itself, because of the risks of the cliffs collapsing.
As someone who lived in the east San Gabriel Valley and attended Mt. Sac (our name for Mount San Antonio College) and then Cal State Fullerton your Orange County San Gabriel Valley line would have been perfect for me. 👍
We’ll all nominate you to be on the board of Brightline West so we can get to LV from anywhere in the LA Co and OC for free! Let the casinos pay for our fares. ❤
It’s a common problem with US transit: It’s run for bean counters not riders. Too often trains and buses have headways so long they discourage ridership. Its time to make people with cars pay the full cost of the infrastructure they use and build and operated much more frequent service
Thanks for this great video, DJ. I live in Los Angeles and I get it. It's the fucking helicopters and the fucking leaf blowers that are eternally buzzing over and around us. Excuse my French...
I hope it will be that way too, and electrification at all it's rails you think should have (idk if it would be exact all of the rails). And I wish the San Bernardino line fixes you mention, electrification (my idea), and rail connection to Brightline West would be in that line, and I hope these fixes can happen sooner than the rest of the lines. Do you think the San Bernardino line's speed limit would be introduced if the stuff you mentioned to fix it are there, and electrification? Sorry if I'm disturbing the Brightline West project
@01:35 I think after Camarillo>The Uni>Ox Coll>DT Oxnard> & continue on the blackened portion. Admittedly I live in TX so I don't know diddly squat so probably a hill of beans hahaha acting like the sun comes up just to listen at me crow😂😂
Proterra just made batteries there before it went bankrupt, all Bus assembly by the time Proterra was going bankrupt happened in South Carolina and while I'm down to make the world most transit oriented water park the Pomona north station isn't a slouch either given how close it is to the job center of the area love the shit posts, keep em coming!!
@@dverespey Yeah good point, i meant by the time Proterra was closing shop they only made batteries there; I've had coworkers go to that factory a while back when they used to do final assembly there
Metrolink managers are not the brightest. Just one of many suggestions. I am a frequent AMTRAK, Coaster and Sprinter flyer. Regarding Metrolink, they need their trains to run later in the evening! On one route, approx. 7:00 p.m. is the last train out of Union Station - RIDICULOUS!
I recognize a lot of this is joking, but a lot of these ideas aren't awful. Here are my thoughts, just briefly as I can (I also apologize for the length of this response.) What are our thoughts on possibly expanding the Antelope Valley line to Rosamond and then Mojave? While technically you could take the Eastern Sierra bus route from Lancaster to Mojave, or even the Kern Transit bus to Mojave or Rosamond, it could be nice to give people more access to Metrolink from the Kern Transit system. Especially since Mojave almost acts as a hub, pulling in from Boron (who I hope will eventually get a connection to the Victor Valley network) and Cal City. I would argue to go directly to Victorville/Hesperia since they are bigger, but Brightline and CAHSR want to develop this corridor/connection already. For the Ventura line, while I recognize you're probably joking, I want to say- I do not understand why this line doesn't service this area like a big loop. Imagine this, it goes through like this; Camarillo - CSU Channel Islands - Port Hueneme - Oxnard - Ventura and then it can re-open/follow the Ventura-Santa Clarita line going through to Saticoy - Santa Paula - Fillmore - Piru/Buckhorn - Santa Clarita and more or less follow the Antelope Valley line back to Burbank where it connects back. Even stopping at Santa Clarita isn't awful but if you connect back in Burbank, people can go from Burbank to say Santa Paula, on one line, more directly. Expanding the network in the I.E. and creating connections to a future Coachella Valley and Imperial Valley rail line?! Absolutely. Imagine expanding the San Bernardino line from terminating in Redlands to go further south and terminating in Beaumont instead with a station servicing Yucaipa/Calimesa. Expanding the Riverside line to terminate in Beaumont as well with a stop servicing Moreno Valley. I'd like for a train to somehow connect from Hemet/San Jacinto/Valle Vista, but I'm not sure how. In addition to making a Calexico to at least Beaumont line as talked about, stopping in the cities that make the most sense in this path; Calexico - Heber - El Centro - Imperial - Brawley - Calipatria - Niland - Bombay - North Shore - Mecca - Thermal - Coachella - Indio - (south)Bermuda Dunes - Indian Wells - Palm Desert - Rancho Mirage - Cathedral City - Palm Springs - Banning - Beaumont. That would be so awesome.
Ah but the one station within Ventura that Metrolink serves, Amtrak does not. Who doesn't like getting on/off the train after going through a wye in an industrial park?
Ventura Metrolink station was an afterthought. Originally, it was just a train yard where they stored the trains overnight. Then they decided it basically cost zero dollars to let people get on there too. So they did.
Extension of the IEOC line to Sorrento Valley to service the various high tech and health employers. Extension of Arrow to Mentone, Yucaipa Oak Glen & Calimesa. Add a Branch of Arrow to San Bernardino airport and San Manuel. Extension of IEOC line to Hesperia, Victorville, Apple Valley, Lenwood, Barstow & Barstow Downtown. Extension, Extension oh San Bernardino Line to Downtown Redlands, then extension to Coachella. Reroute the Amtrak Sunset Limited through Riverside to Fullerton and Los Angeles. Extension of Antelope Valley Line to Mojave and Tehachapi Santa Fe Depot. The Ventura County Railway goes by Oxnard City College. I would build a Sprinter type service there and rebuild the missing segment of the Fillmore Branch with service using the four Short Antelope Valley as line trains between Via Princessa & East Ventura station with stations in Valencia, Castaic, Puru, Santa Paula, Fillmore, Saticoy.
Metrolink is so useless with lack of frequency of the trains, lack of stations, and no direct connection to Metro and other local bus services. Metrolink rails should be available to other lines like Metro to allow for continuous journeys. Build some bypass rails. All trains should be electrified.
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You forgot about digging a hole through the center of the earth, so Metrolink riders can reach South Africa without wasting time traveling the long way.
That would be too easy
Hope the train cars have super air con. It's 11,000 Fahrenheit in Hell. It would take 42 mins. ruclips.net/video/AqegIVp6_BU/видео.html
@@djpetesake HEHE got that right!
Half troll, but some kernels in there for sure.
we need to make you metrolink ceo
You mean SCRRA CEO?
Nah, he's too inexperienced and unethical on his plans.
@@DieYuppiieSkum very inexperienced
Loved how unhinged this got
Meh it’s mid at best
Nandert has been oddly silent since this video dropped…
REALIGN THE OCEAN
I know most of this was a joke, but once you mentioned extending to Menifee, Murrieta and Temecula, and putting a station in Yorba Linda/Anaheim Hills, I'm in board!
Bro did some serious editing work for this april fools video
Oh my God the slow transition to insanity was fantastic. Instant subscribe
All of these projects will definitely finish after 2049, the year in which the Blade Runner movie is set.
4:06 and there’s the April fools gag 🤣
You're right! it's actually called "personal watercraft"
There’s too much troll in this I can’t tell what’s actually useful😭
As a socal I would vote for you
Finally someone who understands the region!
Disappointed in the lack of the City of Industry Explosion graphics.
Those are only in my joke videos
Can't wait for the Disney-LAX Express
This video really went off the rails
this is so good.
This is what nandert sounds like to NIMBYs
I know this is a metrolink video but extend the Metro A line to Phoenix
It took me way too long to realize what this actually was
Happy AFD from Alberta! Great video. Hopefully we'll get an earnest version of this soon too! Personally Metrolink should go with Battery Electric Multiple Units and try and double track all of the routes. It would be nice to see overhead power with tons of voltage but the cost of that is pretty unlikely. Using fast-charing BEMU's on the other hand? Already a thing on the Great Western Railway in London using old rolling stock adapted for new use. And it only takes 4 minutes to re-charge during station stops and has a range of like 73 miles which covers almost all of these routes to the end...
Personally I want to see the Antelope Valley line extended to both California City and Tehachapi since the planning study was already positive about this prospect before... Plus with the cost of housing being the lowest in Southern California it seems natural to want to both grow the city as a commuter railroad suburb and as a regional hub that it was always meant to be... Especially when the city currently has 42,000 vacant but serviced lots now by last count...
I would much sooner recommend synthesizing diesel by the Fischer-Tropsch process than a battery electric fleet- at least until battery technology gets better. AV line to California City/ Tehachapi would be legit!
Let's get those Big Bad Bombardier Bilevel Bois up Mt San Jac
For Pete's Sake I'm impressed by your depth of knowledge. This was a very well thought out and informative video. I hope it gets to the right people.
Can’t wait for the 50 car consists!!
You had me rolling at extending the Disneyland monorail to LAX 😂
Extend The Metrolink Antelope Valley to Kern County and Bakersfield Amtrak Station to Connect Amtrak San Joaquin
There's some more low-hanging fruit that we can take advantage of. The old Santa Paula Branch Line can be reopened, connecting Ventura with Santa Clarita and allowing for the development of an entire valley around rail-based transportation, instead of freeways; plus, it would give an alternate routing if Santa Susana Tunnel is blocked. The Antelope Valley Line can extend north a ways to Mojave, making the connection up to Mammoth a simple matter. You mentioned the opportunities for connecting to Calexico via Bombay Beach: let's reopen the Tecate line between Tijuana and Mexicali (further improving rail access to the southern end of the Pacific Crest Trail in Campo).
Extend a line to the new Westminster Mall. This would get Los Angeles Access to the beach cities.
For someone that lives in the IE this was an amazing informative video! Thank you Mr Petesake ❤️
You didnt address that the Cal State La platform can only fit the west most 3 cars, shouldn't that also be extended to futureproof for 50 car consists?
Nobody seems to be upset by the 10-tracked 405 line reducing to singletrack through Costa Mesa
But also, just extend the platform to LA General Medical Center
As satirical as this is, you had some ideas that cooked
I had a few chances to take the Metro from Santa Ana to La Sierra in Riverside. I still had to be driven to Santa Ana from Long Beach, and I needed a ride to the house from the Riverside station. But not driving on the 91 was such a treat.
I occasionally made requests for Metro to create a 405 line from Santa Clarita to Irvine, which would have made public transit from LB to work on Costa Mesa feasible. (I refused to spend two hours on buses when I could drive in half an hour.) I knew it was less likely to happen than winning the lottery, but I still asked. Getting to South Coast Plaza, the Irvine Spectrum, or the Getty Center by rail sounded fantastic. Still does.
The loop back to CSUCI would be a waste. There already is a (largely unoccupied) bus from Camarillo station to CSUCI that, even with the transfer wait time, is much faster and shorter to CSUCI. And there are no people and no tracks across that farm land between Oxnard College and CSUCI, where another unused bus already exists.
I just came across this video. I had wondered why Metrolink is not the world-class commuter rail system I think it should be. Well, it sounds like their running on freight rail tracks with most routes is at least part of the answer. I had not known that most of the tracks they run on aren’t even owned by them. Now it makes all the sense in the world.
2:50 one of your dreams is semi-coming true. Metro is adding a bus link between the two stations with a re-route of line 268 starting in late June 2024.
While mostly jokes, there are some really good points - Cal Polly Pomona station, for example.
I assumed there was mostly parody here, but I didn't even check to see if it was a parody until I saw 2 train lines stopping in Beaumont, which is what made me finally go "Wait a second.... I live there, this has to be a total joke!"
This level of sarcasm is something I just needed as I live in the OC 😅
Was wondering why this recommended to me until I saw the Proterra mention. Unfortunately the factory was closed last year. Plus following that Proterra went through bankruptcy and the bus division was sold to Phoenix Motor .
Pretty much I wonder why Foothill Transit bought electric buses from that company and 70% of their electric buses were out of service due to mechanical and battery problems.
8:51 They should revive the San Diegan as a new Amtrak Corridor Route from San Diego to Las Vegas Nevada, using this original abandoned route between Oceanside and Hemet, then continue on the 91 Line Until Riverside, then pass through San Bernardino Depot, and then pass through the same route of the Southwest Chief from San Bernardino to Barstow, and then travel the Same Route as the Desert Wind did since 1997 all the way to Las Vegas where the train terminates. It will use the Bilevel California Cars or Siemens Venture or Airo Trains.
This was hilarious!
Hell yeah for the 405 line! been dreaming about that for a decade lol.
Bombay Beach station is insane 💀
By the time I got to the end of this I realized you might not be serious. We still need the 15 minute frequencies. 24/7
Thank You!
You’re missing the point for the OC line. It would obviously be cheaper to get rid of the tracks altogether, turn it into a bike trail, and extend the Disneyland Monorail to Oceanside.
I know this is partly parody, however people will take what you say to heart that don’t know. The Arrow is a heavy rail (not light rail) that is simply a Multiple Unit diesel (or soon to include H2-it’s so quiet you won’t even know it’s coming) that has similar challenges getting up grade. The Stadler FLIRT can include an OCS Electric MU type, but that’s not likely with the NIMBY set.
Maglev it is then as a dedicated express train
You're right, I totally missed an opportunity to refer to the "Escondido Sprinter" as a light rail too
2:13 oh god imagine how long that would take, the 10 freeway refurbishment in Ontario and Pomona is already taking long enough...
Oh, just imagine that the new Desert Line may be belong to BNSF Freight trains from Tucson, AZ to Barstow, CA. Called BNSF M-TUCBAR in the future of the circumstances.
The old PE RoW needs to come back down the middle of OC via Stanton. As of the early 80s the rails were still there at grade crossings when I got my license but are long gone now.
Hi,
I can probably answer a few questions about the Ventura County line. (But my info is outdated because I took it back in 2019...) In general, the trains only go to Moorpark. Simi Valley is an Amtrak stop, so riders can connect with the pacific surfliner there.
I'm not sure why riders would connect with the pacific surfliner with the Ventura County Line though because the surfliner usually goes to L.A. Union Station anyway. All the Pacific Surfliner maintenance infrastructure is at L.A. Union station. The cold foods in the cafe car were out, and they swapped trains at Union Station for a working cafe car.
also, sometimes the best ideas come as shitposts. The scary part is when the shitposts are this good and this correct.
I can see some real value in building a dual track section like CAHSR (raised track on pylons) in the ocean parallel with the existing line in San Clemente. It’d be cheaper than tunneling, built to withstand seismic and unstable earth, and ultimately have less environmental impact than tunneling under the city.
I wonder how Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey could be fit into Bill and Ted's Excellent Transit Adventure Center?
We need a trolley or something from metro link to john wayne airport. There is a little bus from metrolink to kaiser in irvine. It waits for passengers at the metrolink station in irvine
Frequency kills me. I wanted to visit my cousin in Riverside. I live in LA county. There is no train going towards Riverside in the morning nor coming back to LA in the afternoon. It's against commuter traffic.
Apparently they're improving the schedules in October, hoping for the best
You think big! Haha. A little more realistically though, I think a lot could be done, especially if they built some connections between metro light rail lines so that through service could be provided. Some examples:
- Downtown LA to LAX: E line from Union Station to Crenshaw/Expo, with a connector to the K line to bring you down to LAX. There is your LAX express
- OC-LAX: Extend the C line east 2 miles to Metrolink Norwalk: OC-LAX service with one transfer between light rail and train
- Cerritos-LAX: When the SE Gateway light rail is in place, build a connector to the C line at Watts, and then run trains Cerritos-Watts-LAX
- There are already plans to run the K line up to Hollywood and down to Torrance that could be extended to the E line in northern, Long Beach, and if there is a connector they could proceed south to Long Beach: voila, you've got a connection from Hollywood to LAX to the whole South Bay and LB.
Aside from that as we dream, being originally from OC and lamenting that the OC Center Line was never built...there is such huge development in a single line, if you draw it right.
-You are spot on that a light rail should go from Brea Mall to CSUF to DT Fullerton to DT Anaheim to Disney/ARTIC, MainPlace, and DT Santa Ana, from there south past Santa Ana College, and meet the 405 line at South Coast Plaza
-Center Line or 405 line should both continue from South Coast Plaza, to John Wayne Airport, the business parks just SE of there, UC Irvine(!!!), and Irvine Spectrum/Irvine Station, although that last stretch SE of UCI is not very dense, the light rail should meet the Amtrak San Diegan and Metrolink at Spectrum (Irvine Station).
- Really this should be an extension of either the E line from East LA and perhaps the C line from LAX as well. I think there would actually be high demand for trips like Pico Rivera/Montebello/Whittier to Irvine, Cerritos/Bellflower to Irvine etc. esp. for service workers.
Final thought, if a third track was built in a few select places, you could have express trains that pass the local trains that stop every mile or two. That would really be great for the trips between major stations around the whole region (LAX to Irvine etc.) at speeds that rival or exceed Metrolink or Amtrak. The S-Bahn model in Germany should be what we strive for, which is soooo flexible.
You brought up a possible line along the median of I-405. While I'm not certain that's feasible, the fact remains that one of the two biggest missing links in rail travel in Southern California is a line connecting Irvine to Santa Monica via coastal cities of Orange and southwestern Los Angeles counties, and which would hit both John Wayne Airport and LAX, with John Wayne Airport also serving as the stop for Costa Mesa. That line would likely have a stop for Huntington Beach/Westminster, as well as at least one, perhaps as many as three stops in Long Beach, of which one would connect to the LA Metro A Line.
You also touched on a possible extension of the Riverside County line down to Temecula, which actually is part of the other major missing link in Southern California rail service, which is a line from San Diego to Riverside via Escondido and the Inland Empire up the I-15 and I-215 corridors. In fact, there currently is no transit service at all connecting northern San Diego County to Riverside County on the I-15 corridor. Should there ever be a rail line connecting San Diego, Escondido, and Riverside via the I-15 and I-215 corridors (and I think Lake Elsinore should be part of that, in some way), then you could wind up with both Riverside and Escondido as major transit hubs in Southern California, to go along with San Diego, Oceanside, and Union Station in Los Angeles. the line connecting Los Angeles and Riverside could end there, with another line connecting Riverside to Escondido, and then some kind of light, hybrid, or commuter rail connection between Escondido and San Diego.
Definitely agree on a line covering the coastal cities all the way up to San Fernando Valley
@@jpg3702 Not just that, but also to bring rail access to the airports for those that wish to use it. Now it must be mentioned that LA Metro is beginning to do some of that with it's K Line, which is intended to cover the northern end of the area I mentioned (among the things they intend is that line going as far south as Redondo Beach and Torrance, and includes a connection to the E Line in Santa Monica in their future plans). Frankly, that's something that should have been done many years ago, although, as mentioned in this video regarding San Clemente, as well as with the bluffs in Del Mar, they can't go too close to the coast itself, because of the risks of the cliffs collapsing.
As someone who lived in the east San Gabriel Valley and attended Mt. Sac (our name for Mount San Antonio College) and then Cal State Fullerton your Orange County San Gabriel Valley line would have been perfect for me. 👍
Help, I thought this was serious until the bike rack joke. Then, I saw the date…
Hell yeah as an OCC student I would take Metrolink to LA if it stopped at our place.
We’ll all nominate you to be on the board of Brightline West so we can get to LV from anywhere in the LA Co and OC for free! Let the casinos pay for our fares. ❤
This is amazing
It’s a common problem with US transit: It’s run for bean counters not riders. Too often trains and buses have headways so long they discourage ridership.
Its time to make people with cars pay the full cost of the infrastructure they use and build and operated much more frequent service
I think you forgot about extending the other end of the Disneyland monorail to Las Vegas.
OMG that was great but we really do need a 405 line though. I've been saying that for years...
Thanks for this great video, DJ. I live in Los Angeles and I get it. It's the fucking helicopters and the fucking leaf blowers that are eternally buzzing over and around us. Excuse my French...
YES!!! My friend Scott and I made a song about the leaf blowers: ruclips.net/video/YVeZLHWHcUU/видео.html
We need to add 15 minute frequencies to every route. 24/7 That just about says it.
I hope it will be that way too, and electrification at all it's rails you think should have (idk if it would be exact all of the rails). And I wish the San Bernardino line fixes you mention, electrification (my idea), and rail connection to Brightline West would be in that line, and I hope these fixes can happen sooner than the rest of the lines. Do you think the San Bernardino line's speed limit would be introduced if the stuff you mentioned to fix it are there, and electrification?
Sorry if I'm disturbing the Brightline West project
You forgot to mention the Antelope Valley Line goes through the snow during the winter!
Cannot be overstated how bad having one track is on the San Bernardino line between the I10. That is such fucking crap.
@01:35 I think after Camarillo>The Uni>Ox Coll>DT Oxnard> & continue on the blackened portion. Admittedly I live in TX so I don't know diddly squat so probably a hill of beans hahaha acting like the sun comes up just to listen at me crow😂😂
Proterra just made batteries there before it went bankrupt, all Bus assembly by the time Proterra was going bankrupt happened in South Carolina
and while I'm down to make the world most transit oriented water park the Pomona north station isn't a slouch either given how close it is to the job center of the area
love the shit posts, keep em coming!!
Incorrect, it was a bus factory first. The battery line was added later. Sadly the site was closed a year back.
@@dverespey Yeah good point, i meant by the time Proterra was closing shop they only made batteries there; I've had coworkers go to that factory a while back when they used to do final assembly there
Tip: Add a station in Brea (My friend is gonna need it)
I actually realized I forgot to put one there after the video was done!
First, I agree with most of what you said.
Second, only a transit fan would see how funny this video is. I laughed so hard. Lol. Loved your video
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I like your Cal Poly Pomona idea. Sound like you really mean that one.
1st thing I would do is make it extremely cheaper to increase passenger count. Extend from ventura to Santa Barbara air port
Yes I know it's a joke but some of us do actually have to use this thing lol
Jokes aside, a 405 rail line would work for me 😂
Metrolink managers are not the brightest. Just one of many suggestions. I am a frequent AMTRAK, Coaster and Sprinter flyer. Regarding Metrolink, they need their trains to run later in the evening! On one route, approx. 7:00 p.m. is the last train out of Union Station - RIDICULOUS!
as a resident of santa barbara, i would like to argue for metrolink to run up here as well given amtrak’s less than stellar record 😪
If only there was a single metrolink train going to the west side
Metrolink has good bones, but without owning right of way can they do much? If they electrified and ran 24/7 it’d be quite useful
Idk why but I think electrified trains are ugly
Instead of doing multiple trains a day just do one 100 car long Metrolink train a day for each line pulled by newly purchased BNSF GEVO locomotives
I recognize a lot of this is joking, but a lot of these ideas aren't awful. Here are my thoughts, just briefly as I can (I also apologize for the length of this response.)
What are our thoughts on possibly expanding the Antelope Valley line to Rosamond and then Mojave? While technically you could take the Eastern Sierra bus route from Lancaster to Mojave, or even the Kern Transit bus to Mojave or Rosamond, it could be nice to give people more access to Metrolink from the Kern Transit system. Especially since Mojave almost acts as a hub, pulling in from Boron (who I hope will eventually get a connection to the Victor Valley network) and Cal City. I would argue to go directly to Victorville/Hesperia since they are bigger, but Brightline and CAHSR want to develop this corridor/connection already.
For the Ventura line, while I recognize you're probably joking, I want to say- I do not understand why this line doesn't service this area like a big loop. Imagine this, it goes through like this; Camarillo - CSU Channel Islands - Port Hueneme - Oxnard - Ventura and then it can re-open/follow the Ventura-Santa Clarita line going through to Saticoy - Santa Paula - Fillmore - Piru/Buckhorn - Santa Clarita and more or less follow the Antelope Valley line back to Burbank where it connects back. Even stopping at Santa Clarita isn't awful but if you connect back in Burbank, people can go from Burbank to say Santa Paula, on one line, more directly.
Expanding the network in the I.E. and creating connections to a future Coachella Valley and Imperial Valley rail line?! Absolutely. Imagine expanding the San Bernardino line from terminating in Redlands to go further south and terminating in Beaumont instead with a station servicing Yucaipa/Calimesa. Expanding the Riverside line to terminate in Beaumont as well with a stop servicing Moreno Valley. I'd like for a train to somehow connect from Hemet/San Jacinto/Valle Vista, but I'm not sure how. In addition to making a Calexico to at least Beaumont line as talked about, stopping in the cities that make the most sense in this path; Calexico - Heber - El Centro - Imperial - Brawley - Calipatria - Niland - Bombay - North Shore - Mecca - Thermal - Coachella - Indio - (south)Bermuda Dunes - Indian Wells - Palm Desert - Rancho Mirage - Cathedral City - Palm Springs - Banning - Beaumont. That would be so awesome.
Should Metrolink be extended to Santa Barbara?
Yes ❤😊
Ah but the one station within Ventura that Metrolink serves, Amtrak does not. Who doesn't like getting on/off the train after going through a wye in an industrial park?
Ventura Metrolink station was an afterthought. Originally, it was just a train yard where they stored the trains overnight. Then they decided it basically cost zero dollars to let people get on there too. So they did.
@@Geotpf today I learned from the comments section of an April Fools vid!
SCORE in the works
incredible
Things in parallel universe…
Extension of the IEOC line to Sorrento Valley to service the various high tech and health employers.
Extension of Arrow to Mentone, Yucaipa Oak Glen & Calimesa.
Add a Branch of Arrow to San Bernardino airport and San Manuel.
Extension of IEOC line to Hesperia, Victorville, Apple Valley, Lenwood, Barstow & Barstow Downtown.
Extension, Extension oh San Bernardino Line to Downtown Redlands, then extension to Coachella.
Reroute the Amtrak Sunset Limited through Riverside to Fullerton and Los Angeles.
Extension of Antelope Valley Line to Mojave and Tehachapi Santa Fe Depot.
The Ventura County Railway goes by Oxnard City College. I would build a Sprinter type service there and rebuild the missing segment of the Fillmore Branch with service using the four Short Antelope Valley as line trains between Via Princessa & East Ventura station with stations in Valencia, Castaic, Puru, Santa Paula, Fillmore, Saticoy.
Metrolink is so useless with lack of frequency of the trains, lack of stations, and no direct connection to Metro and other local bus services. Metrolink rails should be available to other lines like Metro to allow for continuous journeys. Build some bypass rails. All trains should be electrified.
this sounded legit until 2:40 XD
OF COURSE IT WAS RELEASED ON APRIL FOOLS HOW AM I THAT STUPID
Also RIP Cinema City
tunnel through the Santa Ana mountains
Make public transit free and get rid of all the stupid gates and fare boxes.
But how will we fund the system then just the million Metrolink lemonade stands
good
See that empty white space in the South Bay? Yeah, lots of fun here.😢
No more median trains please please please please just take out the highway
Metrolink has no money
5:40 sarcasm?