ChargePoint Home Flex EV Charger Complete Review

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • The ChargePoint Home Flex is Chargepoint's latest offering for home EV charging. It's a powerful 50-amp EVSE with smart-charging capability in a compact, stylish form.
    In this video, we review all of the ChargePoint Home's features and put it to our deep-freeze cable test. We give the ChargePoint Home Flex a 4.6 out of 5 overall rating, and add it to our recommended charger list.
    This video is powered by Qmerit, North America’s leading provider of installation services for EV charging, home energy storage, and other electrification technologies.
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  • @cesartrujillo4190
    @cesartrujillo4190 3 года назад +58

    Your score sheet is crucial. Few companies are so transparent about the way they weight scores. You make it simple to adjust scores to fit personal needs. Kudos. You are amazing.

    • @MrRogerlee123
      @MrRogerlee123 2 года назад

      Agreed, I am going down the rabbit hole and binge watching the channel

  • @roguern
    @roguern Год назад +9

    I know this is a couple of years old, but the video was very helpful and I bought the Home Flex. I also got a $250 credit from my power company for getting an EV charger so I hit the one big issue you had with it being over $500, and was all in at $450. Thank you for your video.

  • @ciuvic1984
    @ciuvic1984 3 года назад +9

    Your videos are underrated , you should have at least 500k subscribers.Glad I found your channel

  • @overlanderlite1600
    @overlanderlite1600 2 года назад +3

    Amazing job Tom! So much better than any other reviews of EV chargers I’ve seen.

  • @jimji2774
    @jimji2774 Год назад +6

    Great review. One thing people should know is the app for the Chargepoint does not tell you the percentage your vehicle is charged. With my Kia EV6 I have to go into it's app to see state of charge and even get a notice when charging is complete. I was disappointed that the Chargepoint did not let me know how full my batteries were.

  • @lewartsimmons7294
    @lewartsimmons7294 3 года назад +3

    Tom - Thank you for the well articulated review! It is extraordinary the knowledge I'm learning on EV ownership in preparing for my purchase. I would never have considered cable flexibility as a purchase consideration. Your demonstration raises the creditability of your review. Thanks.

  • @spencer476
    @spencer476 2 года назад

    Tom - This channel may be your best work. Very detailed, very well researched and really helpful. Thanks very much.

  • @kevyNova123
    @kevyNova123 2 месяца назад

    This is one of the best reviews I've ever seen, kudos man, you covered absoulty everything.

  • @jyharris
    @jyharris 2 года назад +2

    Great and thorough review as usual.
    I've had this EVSE for a year and I couldn't be happier. I utilize the schedule and save money as well as a monthly rebate from DTE. I have it hardwired to a 60 amp fuse and get over 11kw to charge my Mach-E GT. Thank you for your video. After a year of use, I highly recommend this EVSE.

  • @mrdsn189
    @mrdsn189 3 года назад +2

    Thanks Tom! Can’t wait for all the other model reviews!

  • @BenShutUp
    @BenShutUp 3 года назад +2

    This is so helpful, thank you! I've been an EV driver for years but recently had to move to the suburbs where there are very few EV Charging stations near me. Therefore, I am considering an at-home EV Charging appliance.

  • @applemachome
    @applemachome 3 года назад +4

    This is the best evse review I’ve seen. Great work, thanks!

  • @meanballz
    @meanballz 3 года назад +14

    I’ve had the 1st gen home chargepoint with the 25’ cable 32a for 4+ years and it still works great. I have no doubt the 2nd gen is just as good. Model Y and a model s owner here. Love the app and smart features. Great Review Tom! Thanks!

  • @skyemalcolm
    @skyemalcolm 2 года назад +5

    We installed one of these ChargePoint Flex units, hardwired on a 50 A breaker. Set up was as straightforward as Tom described. The WiFi setup, the app integration, and high quality mentioned are all exactly as described. We love it and use it to charge our LEAF and Clarity every day.

  • @asb50050
    @asb50050 3 года назад +23

    One of the most comprehensive reviews of a level 2 charger I’ve ever seen. Thanks for the great work on this. Will check out the other reviews if there are more. Will be getting a level 2 charger next year.

  • @spat7378
    @spat7378 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Thank you. Nice review. The freezer test is a great idea.
    We have the first generation ChargePoint Home charger. We got it in 2017. I checked my account on the CP website and it shows to date the unit has had 1100+ charge sessions and has delivered 15,500kWh of power to our two electric cars (2017 Chevrolet Volt and 2017 Bolt EV).
    I love the ChargePoint EVSE. It is mounted inside our attached garage, so it is not subjected to harsh weather, etc. It has held up well and shows no signs of stopping. Yes, it cost more than some other brands, but I highly recommend the ChargePoint.

  • @Notofu4u246
    @Notofu4u246 3 года назад +2

    Excellent review - one of the most informative I've seen. Thank you for sharing!

  • @jyharris
    @jyharris 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this video. After watching, I purchased the Chargepoint Flex. I have a Mach-E that will take 48 amps. Sounds like I need a 60 amp fuse and must hardwire to take full advantage. I have already spoken to my electrician about changing my panel and installing a new 240 line in my garage. Great, thorough video!

  • @robertdelvecchio7438
    @robertdelvecchio7438 4 месяца назад +1

    Great Review - the clarity, direct to the point and lack of any fluff / "word salad" in the review really stood out to me - Thank You ! - went with the ChargePoint

  • @JohnnyC10071959
    @JohnnyC10071959 3 года назад +14

    That "cold test" is a detail few (if any) other channels would cover. Good job.

  • @brady783
    @brady783 9 месяцев назад +2

    My utility company just offered up a choice in home EVSE for a deep discount, kind of an instant rebate program. This Chargepoint home flex was the option that i chose because if this review. Thanks Tom!

  • @Skyking6976
    @Skyking6976 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the detailed review. Decided on CP after watching your video and it arrived today. Can’t wait to install it in our new house early next month. The did a great job making it simple to install but I’m gonna let an electrician do it.

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste

  • @3izzy0
    @3izzy0 3 года назад +1

    Your reviews are so helpful. thank you!

  • @fullyelectric
    @fullyelectric 3 года назад +5

    Tom, truly excellent review!
    I got mine the last time I post up about it on your other video .. been using it with the wife new Audi eTron, get up to 10.5kW flat all the time, it’s setup to deliver full 12kW but as you stated the car has to support it too .. will have to check on the max for the Audi eTron and Porsche .. plus the new Mach E.. I know they come with 48amp chargers included however the onboard AC to DC may have a higher rating, will need to check on that..
    Thanks again for all that you do Tom .. truly very helpful and informative information!! More please..

  • @aaronbaldwin5421
    @aaronbaldwin5421 8 месяцев назад

    Tom, your videos are fantastic, and incredibly informative. Thank you. I found you being a follower of Marques and seeing you on his channel checking out the tesla chargers, and very thankful I did as I've gleaned quite a bit of knowledge from your videos! I just decided to finally take the plunge on a R1T after a serious year plus of research - and after being recommended to look at juicebox from another rivian owner, came here to see your reviews, and going with Chargepoint for my hardwired 60(48) amp solution. Also wanted to mention that the Chargepoint home flex can now be found at $549 price point through many amazon sellers hardwired, and $590 NEMA 14-50, and was shocked to hear the price when you reviewed in comparison!

  • @robintaylor1490
    @robintaylor1490 3 года назад +5

    Great video Tom, very informative and interesting. Unlike some other channels out there.

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney  3 года назад +2

      Thanks. I noticed most of the other EV charging station reviews are limited to something like just plugging it in and saying "hey yeah it works!". I wanted to do something a little more comprehensive.

  • @Ducatista10
    @Ducatista10 Год назад +3

    Just bought this EVSE because of you! After watching a bunch of your reviews, I decided this was best for me in Ontario, Canada. It came down to this and the Grizzl-E (wanted to support the Canadian company). Ultimately decided on this one because of the smart features, cable/handle and integrated holster with backlit LED. Thank you for all that you do on this channel! 🙏🏼

    • @BrianOlmsted
      @BrianOlmsted Год назад +1

      I want to support Grizzl-E as well being Canadian company but they only go up to 40 amp and hardwiring looks to be a major PITA as I saw that have lugs on the wires to attach inside and someone posted a RUclips video recommending against hardwiring because they tried to track down lugs to attach and ended up having to file them down to fit on the terminals, etc. I like the smart features as well and I want to lock it out if possible etc if we are not home, etc

  • @DrDiplMed
    @DrDiplMed 3 года назад +4

    What a great review, better than any other review I've seen. Our old Coulomb / ChargePoint giant gray box finally stopped after seven years of faithfully charging a Gen 1 Volt and a Bolt...outdoors...in Michigan (luckily it stopped just before the lease was up on the Bolt). Clipper Creek chargers seem to be in a lot of the municipal garages, but I'll probably stick with Chargepoint when our ID4 arrives after seeing this review.

  • @sarahzaryac
    @sarahzaryac 3 месяца назад

    Excellent review! Really appreciate the indepth explanations on everything and feel really lucky we got this charger included with our Ioniq5!

  • @cesartrujillo4190
    @cesartrujillo4190 3 года назад +7

    So smart. A pleasure to watch.

  • @christopheryanosev9632
    @christopheryanosev9632 2 года назад

    great point about the cord being flexible under cold weather conditions. I am sure this is very important for many users.

  • @yobyotYT
    @yobyotYT 2 года назад +1

    Wow! So helpful for a newbie. Love your authenticity. Don't lose that as you get more traction and manufacturers come calling.

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney  2 года назад

      Thanks. That's me. I'm 54 - not about to change who I am at this point in life. :)

    • @yobyotYT
      @yobyotYT 2 года назад

      @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Good to hear. BTW, it's Porsch-uh, not Porsch. They won't keep giving you cool cars to test if you don't pronounce it correctly. A German thing, probably.

    • @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
      @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney  2 года назад

      @@yobyotYT I know. It's so hard to change now after saying Porsche all my life. :) I have a really good relationship with Porsche, that's why they have given me Taycans to drive 4-5 times already. Not once have they mentioned that I don't say it correctly.

  • @d7mysterio7
    @d7mysterio7 3 года назад +3

    Great review as always. Very thorough. Thanks.

  • @N7_Maric
    @N7_Maric 2 года назад +1

    I bought this for my MachE and now I charge my Volvo C40 and Model 3LR with it. Solid home charger.

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 2 года назад

    I've purchased a Chargepoint Home 32A plugin version since we first got my old man's Outlander PHEV back in 2018. Since then a Fusion Energi and now a Sportback e-tron has joined the family and all feeds from this unit. Overall I'm quite satisfied by Chargepoint and only have a handful of times the unit crashed or decided to not play nice with the home WiFi setup, but otherwise it has been pretty good at keeping our three EVs topped up around the clock.

  • @davidsmiottawa
    @davidsmiottawa 2 года назад +1

    Love the freeze test!!!

  • @billsmith810
    @billsmith810 3 года назад +4

    Good review and good background info for selecting any EVSE for home use. All I need now is to totally update my electrical panel, up my service from 100 to at least 150 and add a circuit to the garage. That's what you get when you bought an 61yr old home 36 years ago....lol for now 110v works for my situation. Thanks for the excellent info in your videos especially for us newbies.

    • @fullyelectric
      @fullyelectric 3 года назад +3

      My home is about 45 years old now, got it 25 years ago .. the main panel is rated for 240/125A however they put only a 2 pole 100A GE breakers in, so I can get them to put in the max breaker for my panel without upgrading the panel, my main wire gauge coming in is 1/0 gauge 150A support and if you are out of breaker slots in your main panel you can get them to put in combo dual split single pole breakers in to free up slots for 2 pole beakers, cheaper and can be done very quickly .. I made a video on my panel I may release..
      Anyways I share a single 70A circuit with both my Tesla and ChargePoint charger we don’t change at the same time however I tested running both at 25A no issues .. however I am thinking about getting that NeoCharge splitter or just keep both set to 25A max, for now we don’t charge at the same time so we good better charging speed (not like we need it as we charge over night every other 2-3 days) .. so yeah a 100A panel can support two EV’s without upgrading your panel, talk with a good electrician not out to rip you off, use breakers supported by your panel a good electrician can honestly tell you the cheapest and quickest way to get what you need without doing a major upgrade..

    • @billsmith810
      @billsmith810 3 года назад +1

      @@fullyelectric great info, unfortunately my panel is an old pushmatic circuit breaker type and all three electricians said it's no longer supported. Additionally, my panel is in a bathroom that the previous owner had installed before we bought the house. My neighbor recently sold his house and he had to have outside service as well as inside panel upgraded to current code before the house could be sold. I have no problem with making the upgrades as it was something I wanted to do for the last 20 yrs. Hell my dryer plug is old 3 flat blade type located directly beneath a water valve so it needs to be relocated anyway. While we don't plan on moving anytime soon I'd rather have the upgrades done now it's just the right thing to do in my mind. Thanks for suggestions, much appreciated!!

  • @hasbro35
    @hasbro35 2 года назад +6

    Hey Tom...love your reviews and am using them to buy my replacement charger. Just wanted to note a few issues with the ChargePoint Home Flex. I bought my hardwired 32A unit in 2018. It just happens to have passed the warranty by 6 months. Here are the issues I have had with this unit. 1. The ball charger holder pops out of the unit. It is unstable and unless you unhook the unit completely before pulling it out it will pull on the ball and dislodge it from the ball holder. 2. You can not use more than one of these units on a single account, so you will have to set up your second one on another email address with an additional credit card. 3. The unit can't power share. It works standalone. Believe this is the case with the newer units as well. 4. I doubt the plug connector would pass your new cold drop test. It is a heavy-duty, yet plastic, connector. But my biggest disappointment so far is with the customer service. I believe units should last way past their warranty and believe these are probably designed to only last just past the warranty date. But admittedly I am biased since mine is stuck on the blue light and will no longer charge. I do believe there is an advantage to having a simpler power-sharing unit that doesn't have all the smart features but will last longer. I'm leaning towards buying a Grizzl-E simple charger and paying the extra $100 for the 5-year warranty. Since you can schedule most EVs now through the car I believe this is probably the better solution for me. Also, wished I had done a plugin model initially since now I will need to convert my hardwire to a NEMA 16-40.

  • @Joeb061
    @Joeb061 2 года назад +1

    Just purchased my first ev…. I’m torn between the clipper creek hcs40 and the charge point home flex. Watched both reviews and your videos are amazing.

  • @masonfox9070
    @masonfox9070 3 года назад +1

    Excellent review and comparison 👍

  • @martinderome1142
    @martinderome1142 2 года назад

    Thank you sooo much. Your pronounciation is clear (for non-english like me). I am shopping a charger for my new Kia EV6 ew a 11kw charger.

  • @duanepieri8862
    @duanepieri8862 Год назад +2

    This was by far the best review for any product I’ve ever seen. Super informative and objective. Thank you!! I’ll be watching, liking and subscribing.

  • @ericapelz260
    @ericapelz260 2 года назад +3

    Just hope you never need support. Two tickets were placed through the website with no response. Then a phone call where I asked about screws for the bottom edge of the faceplate (there are holes in the faceplate and threaded brass inserts in the body). The gal who answered simply told me there was no mention of the screws in the install manual and then assured me someone would call me back about the lack of response to the first two tickets. With some of the worst possible support, so far, I should have saved some money and bought something else. I purchased this unit because of how flexible it was after the ice cream freezer test, but I could have purchased an Open EVSE and a replacement Chargepoint flex cable for less money. We need reviews of customer support.

  • @johnv9854
    @johnv9854 2 года назад

    State of Maryland requires either this unit or the JuiceBox in order to get a 40% of purchase Rebate back from the State.. I have an EV on the way and the Chargepoint box sitting in my living room waiting for installation.. Watching this video makes me think I got the right unit.. I had ordered the Grizzl-E but canceled for the Chargepoint. Good video content!

  • @anderslagerqvist2642
    @anderslagerqvist2642 2 года назад

    Great review,
    I just got my home charge station installed.
    Mine got load balencing so your home heating etc. gets precedence over charging the car. As I live in a cold area this is important (not blowing the fuses).
    This is more expensive but a must for me... So the box is flexible on the amount of current delivered..

  • @brianabbott6239
    @brianabbott6239 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the video. Great information. Currently trying to decide between the Tesla Charger and the ChargePoint one. I get a energy rebate for either if it's hardwired in. I have a Model 3 at the moment which means the Tesla Charger is easier to use, but the ability to charge other EVs down the road makes the ChargePoint charger a very strong option instead.

  • @581rma
    @581rma Год назад +1

    Tom, thanks for this review I’m going to sign up for my utilities EV charging program which gives me credit for charging off-peak and requires a smart charger. I’m thinking this one definitely is top of the list over the Juice unit which failed your freezer test. Although it would be charging in my garage, I just don’t like dealing with cables are not flexible.

  • @ElectricNed
    @ElectricNed 3 года назад +5

    Maybe this was mentioned in this video or the ID.4 video and I missed it, but I am curious: Do the Flex's cord and connector get warm or hot when in use at full 50A for long periods? It's a relatively thin cord and I would love to see how warm it is after charging in the sun for 3-4 hours at 50A. I am sure that ChargePoint did enough testing to decide the cord could handle it, but I wonder how warm it gets.

  • @Anvanho
    @Anvanho 3 года назад +1

    I'll be getting my own Home Flex unit (w/NEMA 14-50); which I will install myself, inc. the 220-v circuit. Used to be in the trades.

  • @kenliu1
    @kenliu1 2 года назад +3

    Your reviews are excellent but would helpful to see a review of the mobile apps that go along with these charging units.

  • @davemartin9912
    @davemartin9912 3 года назад +4

    Hey Tom, are there any chargers that allow you to adjust the charge current on a 120V circuit? I sometimes charge a Tesla (which lets you throttle down the current) at 8A on a shared 120V circuit and would like to be able to do the same with another EV that doesn't have (as far as I know) a self-throttling capability. Are there any other BEVs that can self-throttle?

  • @funandgreat
    @funandgreat 2 года назад +3

    Thank you so much, Tom! I just purchased a Charge Point Flex. We live in New York. If we install it outside of the house, do we need to build something over the charger to prevent the snow or rain form getting into the unit?

  • @richardnelson1684
    @richardnelson1684 Год назад +1

    Tom. I just bought a 2023 Toyota RAV4 PRIME and Home Flex charger. An electrician did the install. I opened the app and it wanted me to hold my phone on the charger which didn't look like mine and didn't work at all (Nearfield). My circuit breaker is 30A requiring the charging current be limited to 24A. The App had only 2 choices: 40A or 50A. The first night I let it charge and the Toyota limited the charge to 6.6kW or 27.5A. This was confirmed by the graph of that night's charging. I then called Chargepoint support. He said 24A was not a choice, but he could set it to 20A. So after a bit of a process, he said it was now set to 20A. I cannot find a way to verify this in their App. So I'm disappointed that the unit does not function as you indicated and as shown online at Amazon, etc. I could not find any written manual or an explanation on what the colored lights specify. Additionally, the App only allowed the selection of a 2021 RAV4 PRIME. Best regards, Richard

  • @JamesWatsonPA
    @JamesWatsonPA 3 года назад +5

    Love your reviews. I find them very helpful. Do you have a chart somewhere that shows the chargerator scores of all the chargers you've reviewed? Apologies if I've missed that. Thanks!

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 2 года назад +1

      I know I’d also find this quite useful, along with details on the best freezer test results.

  • @thomasandriesen443
    @thomasandriesen443 3 года назад

    Tom, thanks for the very in-depth review. Maybe I missed it in the video but is the charge point NEMA 4R rated? My location is very exposed to weather.

  • @GlennWo
    @GlennWo 3 года назад +1

    Great in-depth review. Thank you! One question I have is if ChargePoint has added the capability to have multiple Home Flex chargers on one account? I don't have multiple EV yet (I own a Tesla Model Y and have a Rivian R1T on order) but I do have a weekend place and want to install a charger at both my primary and secondary residence. I've done some research but haven't been able to find the answer. Question: Has ChargePoint addressed the limitation in their app of only one Home Charger or does that limitation still exist?

  • @tinamethaplint7489
    @tinamethaplint7489 3 года назад +1

    Thx Tom!!

  • @stevenbate5544
    @stevenbate5544 2 года назад +1

    Tom, do you have a comparison sheet showing your scores by catagory for each of the reviewed chargers?

  • @AlexSuarez
    @AlexSuarez 3 года назад +1

    @Tom Moloughney Thank you for the extensive review--very helpful. You mentioned needing two accounts if you have two ChargePoint Home Flexes. What about the opposite, a couple sharing one EV, one ChargePoint Home Flex, and one credit card? Should a couple share one ChargePoint account or should they each have their own separate accounts? I assume that with separate accounts, you wouldn’t get the complete charging history.

  • @bubravi
    @bubravi 3 года назад

    Do I need a hardwired charge point flex for my 14-50(40amp/32amp) breaker? Or does it come with plug in where I have the 240 outlet in my patio

  • @andrewhaines7404
    @andrewhaines7404 Год назад

    Great Review! Do you have any recommendations for charging stands (posts) for home use?

  • @gregburkett2121
    @gregburkett2121 2 года назад

    Great review but I have one question. I understand it can work at different amps, so you choose that in software? I want to charge one vehicle ata time: Pacifica at 32 amps & Mustang at 40 amps on 50 amp circuit.

  • @barryvanorden9260
    @barryvanorden9260 2 года назад

    Great video. Can you recommend what type of Nema 14-50 outlet to use? Is a commercial outlet fine or is an industrial one needed. What type of 14-50 outlets do you use in the shop?

  • @paulchicoine7192
    @paulchicoine7192 3 года назад

    HI Tom, will you be doing these reviews for the portable Level 2 EVSEs? I ask as the ID.4 only comes with a Level 1 EVSE.

  • @winstongee4505
    @winstongee4505 Год назад

    Thank you for your reviews, but I'm interested in hardware security as well. For outdoor units, how do you lock the hardware/cables so that no one can disrupt charging? Do you have any recommendations for lock boxes to close and lock the entire charging unit for outside the home (no garage)?

  • @hardykornfeld1733
    @hardykornfeld1733 Год назад

    Based on Tom’s review among others, we installed a hardwired Home Flex. It’s been great for the first 6 months of operation, delivering about 9 kW. The output dropped to 3.6 kW a few weeks ago, but a quick reboot from the phone app fixed. I heard that this drop reflects a default setting the unit reverts to if it detects an anomaly. We didn’t have a power outage or other evident problem, so I don’t know what caused glitch but it was no big deal.

  • @crayzieap
    @crayzieap 2 года назад +2

    For "Smart" EV chargers that will depend on a mobile app, you should factor in the app rating for both iOS/Android --- which likely indicates how useable the companion app is with the charge station.

  • @frankhawrusik165
    @frankhawrusik165 Год назад

    Valuable review
    Will influence future purchase

  • @roxannepeterson5861
    @roxannepeterson5861 2 года назад +1

    While watching your reviews on all the EV chargers I see you have a Bosch and a flow home X5 hanging on the wall but I can’t find a review for them, have you done them?

  • @ajayalexmathew
    @ajayalexmathew 2 года назад

    Great review. I am buying a Ionic 5.What is the AMP compatibility on that?

  • @MyLakernation
    @MyLakernation 2 года назад

    Do you have any recommendations on posts to mount a charger that's not near a wall?

  • @gman9432
    @gman9432 Год назад

    Great review. I’m curious to know if it would be feasible to simply unplug this unit from a 6-50 outlet at your home and bring it to a different residence with a 6-50 outlet and just plug it in and start charging.

  • @GSBJackson
    @GSBJackson 3 года назад +4

    Great review. I have the first gen ChargePoint and love it. Paid ~$550 for it. Charging 25 mi/hr @ 32amps, can’t see upgrading to gen 2 to get 35 mi/hr @ 40-50amps (+10 mi/hr) for another $150. A $700 charger is just too steep of a price. I was sticker shocked when I saw it introduced. BTW - you are exactly right about should have gotten the longest cord, my one regret.

  • @johnlfrank8078
    @johnlfrank8078 6 месяцев назад

    I have one of these installed at my home and am very happy with it. I would like to install a second one in my detached garage. How will a second unit play out on the app ??

  • @markfitzpatrick6692
    @markfitzpatrick6692 3 года назад +1

    Good video Tom

  • @anthonyg8435
    @anthonyg8435 Год назад

    Hello quick question. Is a level 2 charger able to schedule your departure time and have the vehical charged to 100 percent right before you leave instead of keeping it at 100 percent for long periods of time? I'm getting the outlander Phev and unlike most EVs, it doesn't have the departure feature.

  • @kathyparker8626
    @kathyparker8626 2 года назад +1

    Great info Tom, I'm just starting my research, but I have noticed nobody talks about what it takes to upgrade power supply to the home to say power/charge 3 or 4 cars every night. We are talking another 200-amp panel X how many homes nationwide $$$$$$$$$$$$. I know in my area there are at least 3 cars at every home. There are many cities with power overload demand now and I could go on and on with power outage problems I just don't understand how this system is going to work. Electricians have told me my home needs another drop from the pole for another panel. $$$$$$. Is there something I'm missing?

  • @TM-td7vk
    @TM-td7vk 2 года назад

    Tom, how can I run a 80 amp circuit when the unit terminals only accept a maximum wire size of 6 awg?

  • @Pomp76
    @Pomp76 Год назад

    How is this for outdoor charging? Just bought a Mach e. Thanks !

  • @mj42kramer
    @mj42kramer Год назад

    With no wiring yet for a charger, does it matter if I buy the NEMA 6-50, or NEMA 14-50 plug version? Is there any difference with performance?

  • @scottkiliany3178
    @scottkiliany3178 2 года назад +6

    It would be interesting to see an abrasion resistance test on the cables. Let's face it, most of us will drag the cables across our garage floor or driveway. My garage floor is like rough sandpaper, a soft outer casing might wear thru over months and months of dragging it across the floor. That would be more important to me than the freeze test, as I am not in an area where that is a concern.

    • @4tony42
      @4tony42 Год назад +2

      I agree, plus on the exterior of my home is stucco which is very rough. How much wear can a cable take and how much of the black cable will be marking up the light stucco? Thanks

  • @tomnietz4158
    @tomnietz4158 Год назад

    I found your channel through Auto Focus channel. I love how Tesla developed a more capable charger and cable connector to mess with competition, but I also remember Sony Betamax was better than the competitors but VHS eventually won even though it was inferior. Excellence isn’t always rewarded.

  • @RichardYoungCF
    @RichardYoungCF 2 года назад

    I just ordered the standard range Mach E and am interested in best charger for home. Are there any that are usable with Apple ecosystem? Looks like the max I could use at the house is a 50 amp circuit. This will be my primary for about 3 years the. Will be replaced by something like the F150 lightning and would need to use the Ford Super charger and interface for bi directional charging to the house. What do you recommend?

  • @NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM
    @NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM 3 года назад

    Great video! You’re going to need a wider angle camera and extend your wall mounts if you keep doing more reviews. That 32A clipper creek size looks like an oversized 18-wheeler compared to everything else! I could only find one small inaccuracy in your review, there are two vehicles that can take 50A, some older Tesla Model S/X have dual charger option that goes up to 80A. Although all new production EVs only accept 48A.

  • @liv2ska8
    @liv2ska8 3 года назад +1

    Hi Tom, ChargePoint Flex is the EV charger one that I'll be purchasing. Amazon sells this charger and recommends the Nema 6-50 plug but is also available with the Nema 14-50. My understanding is the difference between the 6-50 and 14-50 plug is 3 wire set up vs 4 wire and that the 6-50 doesn't need to use a neutral. Is this correct? Still learning about electrical currents on charging. I'm thinking of going with the 6-50 since this will be my daily EV charger and not charging RV's or anything else. I currently have a Nema 5-20 20 AMP plug in my garage for charging my i3 and I'm hoping my electrician can use this existing outlet and swap out/add the Nema 6-50 in it's place since it's only a 3 wire install and upgrade my panel to a 40 amp if there's room. BTW your reviews on the chargers are the best and most detailed I have learned so much from your videos !!

  • @raynapinson7820
    @raynapinson7820 Год назад

    Sorry if I missed this in the video - does ChargePoint home flex offer a remote lock feature?

  • @randalcatanese606
    @randalcatanese606 2 года назад

    Tom, I have a 2020 Tesla Model LR Dual Motor and I just received my ordered ChargePoint Flex Home yesterday. I tried calling their tech support but that person had no knowledge. I know the model 3 can accept up to 48amp but approx what charging rate will I get using nema 6-50 plug in compared to hardwiring it since I have a 60 amp breaker? Would you have any idea on this? I'm debating on which path to go, plug in (NEMA 6-50) or hardwire to have it installed.

  • @DeltaCo7175
    @DeltaCo7175 2 года назад

    is there an option to mount the holster remotely from the base plate ? I have a customer who is concerned about the possibility of the charger being stolen from his place of business if mounted outside

  • @shawncell1247
    @shawncell1247 2 года назад

    i have the charge point flex i have used it at -18 has been flexable ,

  • @billford6746
    @billford6746 2 года назад

    I am in a condo and park outside. I will need to protect it from other people charging on my equipment. Do any of of the chargers have protection for my personal charger?

  • @scottfurlong5475
    @scottfurlong5475 2 года назад

    I've installed 3 or 4 charge point chargers and I really like the thought gone into the install method. It's super easy to install. A few weeks ago, I installed an EVDUTY40 charger and it was a terrible design with no thought gone into ease of installl. The charger plug hwall hanger was separate and was a junk piece of plastic. I hope I never see one again.

  • @Aero-Dynamic
    @Aero-Dynamic Год назад

    How long is the NEMA 14-50 cable? The electrician installed the outlet to accommodate a mobile charger, so to have a 3rd party charger I will need at least 2 feet of NEMA 14-50 cable length.

  • @Blind_of_Colour
    @Blind_of_Colour 2 года назад +2

    Mike - I can't tell you how valuable I find your reviews and your so important reminders of all the considerations in choosing an EV charger. One that interests me for potential exterior installation is the Smart Home EVduty 40 (30 amp) hardwired charger which works with the EVduty smart current sensor. The current sensor can track how much total electrical load my home is taking and through my home wifi throttle the charger so it only takes as much current as would enable my electrical service entrance to stay within its limits. Thus I would hope not to have to upgrade my 200 amp entrance. I've done an analysis of my home loads and am sure this is a reasonable expectation. However, I am sure these products have significant limitations and I'd love for you to explore and give them a rating. I don't know anybody besides EVduty that offers such a useful capability for a normal residence at a reasonable cost. These units are big sellers in Quebec where they are made, Quebec possibly being North America's most enthusiastic EV jurisdiction.

    • @Blind_of_Colour
      @Blind_of_Colour 2 года назад

      So, in 2 weeks nobody pointed out that Wallbox offers an even greater ability than EVduty. Wallbox can do what EVduty can do plus more: more current (48 A)and broader functionality. Wallbox Pulsar Plus and their associated Power Meter can not only do what I was seeking, but can also bring supply from solar panels into play. Too bad there has been no review of either the Wallbox Power Meter or the EVduty Smart current sensor. These are useful devices.

  • @barry28907
    @barry28907 Год назад

    Can it accommodate a Time of Use plan that has TWO peak periods per day? My PHEVs don't provide any scheduling features.

  • @armyman1986
    @armyman1986 3 года назад +1

    Nice video - very informative. I just bought a RAV4 Prime and have narrowed down my home charger selection to the ChargePoint or the Clipper Creek. I noticed you have a Clipper Creek charger on the wall behind you. When will you make a video review for that one? Thanks.

    • @nag617
      @nag617 3 года назад

      I got a RV4 Prime which did you pick ?

  • @TheDocrwm
    @TheDocrwm Год назад

    Georgia power gave me a $250 instant rebate on my ChargePoint Home Flex so it came in under $500 for me. An outstanding unit that when combined with GA Power’s penny per kWH 11-7 rate makes it simply irresistible IMHO!

  • @lutherv.779
    @lutherv.779 2 года назад

    Hi, I’m currently connected using a 14-50 outlet using 6/3 NM-B and a 50amp breaker. Is my 6/3 sufficient to charge at 48a continuous if I were to hardwire this unit and swap out the 50amp breaker for a 60amp? The 6/3 seems to be rated for 55a. Does 80% rule apply to wire or just breaker ? If it applies to the wire then I can only charge 44a continuous, right?

  • @robd38
    @robd38 Год назад

    Hi, Great video on the chargepoint charging station, I am in Canada cold winter, I like your freezer test on the cable,
    I would recommend a more comprehensive test, test the unit at -10 C not just a cable flex.
    I would also like to see a review of the newest BOSCH unit.
    I have been doing some research and the GRIZZLE unit had bad reviews on working at cold temperatures outside.
    I have a 14KWhr battery.
    presently i am using the 10 amp 110 volt charger which takes around 8 hours.
    can you do a comparison of all the units in cold weather?

  • @michaeldower5619
    @michaeldower5619 Год назад

    Thank you so much for the informative video, love the demonstrations. I have a rental and I want to offer EV charging. Is there a way to have them pay for the charge that they use while staying at my rental? I heard it could be around $3-$5 to charge the car and with someone staying a month I believe that could add up. Thank you and great video again. I think the Chargepoint Home Flex is the one for me.