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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Howdy! Fellow adventurers. The Nosy Beagle tracked down another shanty boat captain, this time in the woods of Kentucky. Forrest Tramper is doing a true shanty boat build on a budget. I think you're going to like this one.
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@@AdventureVanMan you're actually watching our videos! Thank you ;)
ShantyBoats Forever!! Kudos to Forrest. Nice build there.
You got it! ;) everyone needs one
A suggestion for the door! Make it into 2 pieces and have it fold up to the ceiling like a bi-fold that folds up and down instead of side to side! Just another idea for you!
That's not a bad idea. I know he's watching the comments for ideas. Thank you !
I would recommend a sliding glass door on the back like Carver does on some of their cruisers.
What a cool way to do the walls!
I'm sold on it :)
Awesome video! Great info. Looking forward to seeing your build on the water. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This video had me thinking while I was at work today….The Wavy Gravy Poor Man’s Boat Show and Swap Meet. Man, that sounds fun, lol. I’d definitely go and gladly pay admission. I live vicariously through your adventures, thank you! Keep em coming
@@jedflintstone1775 Forrest has given us all a good idea ;)
Great content, production. Inspiring👍
Thank you! That is very encouraging
Hi 👋 Brenton and Wavey and Forrest 😊😊
Hi Greg! :)
Really good interview, I'm already thinking those panels are going to save me from doing a lot of framing when I build my shed. My dad built a shanty boat and he installed doors that came off of a motor home and they had built in screen doors with them, simple install, front and back, gave him easy access to the motor and fuel tanks, plus it let in a lot of breeze and gave a good view of what's happening behind him and in front...
@@scable-eq7bp I'm not seeing any real drawbacks from going this route. I'm so glad I got to see it in detail. I hope this video helps some folks get on the water
Awesome interview and the boat is looking great. I pulled my hair out trying to figure out where to put the doors and windows. Here's my 2 cents. I went with a patio door on the front because it's all glass and no blind spots plus it doesn't take up any space. A back door is a must if you are going out solo for docking or if there is a problem with the motor. With a four stroke you won't be able to hear it running and if for some reason it overheats you will need to see if it's pumping water. I use my back door a lot every trip.
Agreed. A back door is a must. I mean...we could watch Forrest climb through a window. Lol ;) He really did crack the code for building well on Little money
@@backwatersandbackroads yes using the composite panels was a great idea
The shantyboat fleet is growing, that a cool little boat Forrest is building you will have to do another video when he done.👍
@@SHOE53 are you on the Shallow Drafters buddy? If not, please come join us. Almost 8k members already.
On the rear of his boat I would use a sliding closet type door (Pocket door) and put it on the outside of the wall so the rain will run onto the outside deck and not inside. You still have rear access and don't need door swing area. He could even make a door from the panels.
I'd do something similar
great Job, couple suggestions from someone who has extensive experience using IMPs Insulated Metal panels which are similar in design to your panels...except they come with the ability to use hidden fasteners and they have hidden caulking gaskets so complete seal on walls and roofs When trimming an opening with your C Channels, extend the header pieces past the jamb pieces and jamb pieces past the header, then forty five degree gut the outer and inner corners ...it looks much better. You can pipe Tape caulking and put it along all seams and peel off tape when you butt panels together...and finally make sure when you are using external screws, always mark out the screws, ie measure spacing so you have straight screw lines especially on corner and window'door flashings. These little tricks cost little in time and make for a perfect finish and seal.l I would also put intermediate supports staggered in your roof between all the girts. Great job for first build I would also have chosen Casement Windows as it allows the window to catch the wind and channel it inside when docked. Flat windows give little ventilation unless wind is blowing on that elevation.
Thank you for this, all very helpful. I'm leaning towards this build method myself.
That thing is awesome!
I’ve seen guys use insulated garage doors to build ice fish houses. Basically the same concept.
@@jimsteele7108 I was thinking the same thing;) we Minnesotians think alike
Hi Brenton. Great interview with Forrest . He has done a great job on it. Looking forward to seeing other shanty boat projects. Stay safe on the road and don't let Wavey drive , no matter what she tells you.
@@melvinaltis3725 I figured you'd like this one Melvin ;)
My 94 Toyota truck is in the shop getting ready for a home built camper. I like the panels and im just over the line in Western North Carolina so Corbin ain't that far. Good job Brenton!
@williamjarvis3473 I want to build a light weight camper for my truck too. You got me thinking;)
@backwatersandbackroads 😊
A long casement window in the back that opens out could work as a egress
Great job on the boat. I’d consider putting the 2 windows on either side of the boat and put a full slinging door
@bmoporboy69 definitely a back door. That's my feeling on it too
Great interview those panels solve a multitude of issues low maintenance waterproof rot proof great insulation for heat gain or loss hopefully solves the condensation issues. That keads to a thought if he firs out the interior for siding that creates a air pocket which invites an area for trapping moisture another solution maybe to just apply fiberglass sheet panels low cost low weight an on and on thanks fir a very interesting post.
Thanks Dave. I'm listening to all of these ideas, I'm sold on this cabin build
First off...Great episode!!
And as for Forrest, I love your build!!
Couple things...
I like simple, and I LOVE these foam panels you're using! I'd sure Love to find a source for these out here on the Oregon coast.
My 24' pontoon build is nearly identical, except my cabin is 14' long.
I would always recommend installing a back door, as you'll want easy access back there for handling dock lines, for when someone wants to get on the roof (you don't want your guests climbing through a window, do ya?), and of course in case of an engine issue, switching gas tanks, or some sort of emergency. Definitely put a back door on there! You'll use it more than you realize.
For heat, yeah, a Buddy heater should work just fine, but have you considered the addition of a small woodstove??
I Love having a small woodstove on my boat, as it gives such nice dry heat, you can source firewood anytime you're ashore, and there's nothing yummier than sitting next to a fire with a cup of coffee or tea on a cold rainy day.
My helm is in the same starboard location as yours, but I have my entry door swing out to the port side, so it's out of the way of my visibility when I'm at the helm, and it lays flat against the front of my house. It also has a window so it really doesn't block my passenger's view from the port side. (probably too late to modify yours)
I'm a big advocate (if you have any plans for a bathroom) of using compost or incinerator toilets. They're so easy to use, and there's no nasty black tanks to install or pump out. (this wasn't addressed on the video)
A home built one works just fine, doesn't cost hardly nuthing, and it's not like it's used all that much anyway to justify the expense...but if you'll have women aboard, they're sure nice to have!
One last thing is to do a preliminary sealing of your roof panel seams before rolling your roof coating on.
Awesome build Forrest!! I really hope Brenton does a follow-up video once you have her on the water! 👍
btw...the half-doors you're talking about are Dutch-doors. French doors have lots of small windows in 'em. 😊
Thank you for these thoughtful ideas. I will definitely do a follow-up on this one.
I like the way he’s going with this and the panels are great . Good job of videoing this segment to your turning into a heck of an interviewer.
@@MackMoore-q2n Thank you brother.
A Murphy bed design with cupboards on one side would give you dual purpose and excellent floor space management...the bed will be out of the way during day time.
Good way to maximize a small space for sure
great vid 👍
@@Se7nDust thank you. Appreciate the encouragement
AJ's in Bloomer Wi. Makes doors and windows. Check with them too. You need a narrow door going out the back, and you need windows all around you need to SEE.
@@claire_A-T That's closer to home for me. Thank you for that.
Thanks for such a detailed response and lots of good information..I will make a few changes and put isolation between the galvanized and aluminum 😉…
Check out using Zipp tape for sealing the roof and even the side joints. It's used to seal similar panels in home construction. You could paint the sides with the RV roof material as well.
I'm going to build the Puddle Jumper cabin like this. Thank you
Thanks for the information..
So question for you the would I put the zip tape down first and paint over it with rubber roofing?
@rcnut49345 hopefully Forrest will reply to this ;)
@@backwatersandbackroads this is Forrest lol
@@Shanty-boat-life okay! :)
In the home building business the panels are called SIP (structural insulated panel) They are very strong and he has used them the correct way. If he used spray foam to seal around the window opening there is really no need to install an inner wood frame. Using the wood inner frame for the doors is a must. I built my home with SIP panels 40 years ago and they are still in perfect shape. Good luck to you on this wonderful boat.
This is very valuable information. Thank you
Man this is so cool I have been looking at buying a camper and this can really be a sort of multi purpose shanty I guess they call them but it can be good for dear camp and it floats can play on the water and be a regular camper also
I have a 24’ deck that is a Lowe I wounded if that would be a good start it has a aluminum deck so no rotting ever that kinda nice
@iwantosavemoney shanty boats can do anything;) you're right. I'll keep tracking down the captains, then spring and adventure time
Yes absolutely!!
Possibly a sliding pocket door on the stern.
you should consider a pocket door that slides...no swinging doors required.
a sliding door with a window in it...
Did Forest mention if he installed a spacer to isolate between the galvanized engine mounts and the aluminum toon frame.
The dissimilar metals will destroy each other.
Think 80s model Ford Thunderbird rear bumpers that fall off. Aluminum bumpers mounted to a steel frame rail.
I bet he sees this question and answers it ;)
I did not but I’m glad you mentioned it and I will do so!!
Thanks
I would put a see through door centered on the back wall.
I couldn’t imagine trying to trouble shoot the outboard while on the water without it.
@@randolphbehm877 for me, it's crucial to be able to get to the back of the boat from inside.
I just bought my permanent retirement property on Lake Cumberland. It’s has a Barndominium with a huge shop. My first project is to build a Shanty boat in the shop. Moving down full time in May. I plan to have my Shanty boat built this summer, test run on Lake Cumberland till November. Then trailer it back up to my home town in Indiana. My buddy has a Marina where I can leave the trailer. Then head down the Ohio to the Mississippi. Then to the Atchafalaya river for the winter. I have a friend with a fish camp in Pierre Part on the Belle River. I can park there and get into town easily. I found a 32ft Aluminum barge style hull. The cabin was removed. Clean slate. Corbin is not far from my property south of Nancy KY. These panels would work great and save me a lot of build time. I love the idea of a flat roof. I have used mobile home roof coating in Florida, perfect to seal the roof panels. It’s light blue or white and perfect to reflecting the sun. Thanks for the ideas. I will look into these panels. Thanks 🇺🇸⚓️
@@riverrat4631 sounds like a great retirement
Great video, enjoyed watching, thanks.
Thank you...that helps
Absolutely love the ideas youre sharing! Were also working on a major refit of our 65 catamaran, and its inspiring to see others taking on similar projects. Keep the updates coming!
Good tips on the build!
Great video ! Happy sailing Forest 🏴☠️
@johnnyquest9358 Yes sir;) Thank you.
You need to drill 1/4" drain holes in the bottom outside of track on panels some water will get in so it will drain out
@@sonnyrobinson1989 good thinking.
Watch for galvanic corrosion with that galvanize tubing under the frame that you tied the transom into.
Put some big anodes on your pontoons
Good advice. Thank you
I plan to do sliding doors on both port and starboard sides and a solid front of the house. Like a trawler. I plan to have removable cat walks down each side to increase width to 10-11’ wide and remove to trailer at 8’ wide. I want the front of the cabin solid windows.
@soundsidetoursnc sounds awesome. I know Harold Petersen (Trailerable Trawler here on my channel) did something like that too
Find a good salvage yard, a couple RV doors would work. The good ones have a screen door as well.
@thisisitmjh we did go to a houseboat grave yard...working on a video for the back-up channel. Stay tuned...
Good video, Forest good guy. Thanks
@@bokendrick6553 He is buddy. We're lucky to have a good crew into this stuff aren't we :)
Great interview this fellow really gives some great ideas. I think it's very helpful seeing many different builds of different levels of skill and financial. I do like the flat roof besides if ya don't get atleast a little drip from rain somewhere is it really a shanty? Keep up the good work and we keep tuning in.
@brianquinn3451 I'm really leaning toward this cabin build method Brian. And no...if there's no drips (or gutter failures) it ain't a Shanty! Lol
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Great job and great shanty boat
@@Thomas-bi8sg Thank you for that encouragement. I'll keep going...;)
My rv has a rounded Roof to shed. You can’t tell unless you look closely. And you can’t tell when you’re on it
My phone is on its way out. I ask a lot from them :)
For the door dilemma, did he think about louvred or folding doors out to the stern of the boat? Also for storage, look into getting inspiration from the "Freedom Rail" Garage - Adjustable Storage. There is a lot of wall space he could hang things from even woven nylon string hammock type bags. You could pay a small fortune for storage hammocks from a marine supply place. Or just DIY. using all sorts of materials from green plastic "chicken wire" To just hanging reusable shopping bags on a line( rope) that could easily be attached detached using "S" hooks.
@@emilybh6255 I'll look into that. I need more storage on the Beagle Barge also. Thank you
Put sliding door in the back or pocket door or window is fine also
I like pocket doors too
I like this guy
@@libertyforamericanow he's an easy fella to be friends with. Kentucky is like that ;)
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@@Old-bold-pilot yes sir. Thank you ;)
Have folding legs put on the door and you can take it off the hanging hinge's and make a table out of it
Any space saving or duel function item would be a good idea.
All well and good but "where's the treats locker'? I hear Wavey, our favourite hound, cry. Apart from that, excellent direction by interviewing other shanty boat owners, a whole new and interesting genre.
@ratawai it wouldn't be a proper Nosy Beagle Interview without her screaming in the background. Lol ;) Thanks for being here buddy
@@backwatersandbackroads Well if I was a legendary much loved mascot like Wavey, I would be howling about it too.
Gret Video!, Note You may want to clean Your Phone's Lens, their is a speck in the center of the lens. Cheers
@williamjordan811 Thank you brother. Yes...I need a new phone unfortunately. I'm hard in them :)
Great video brother
@@peterparker5166 Thank you for being here ;)
He should name his boat Jenny! 😂
Absolutely awesome idea!! Ha, that would be perfect!
I’m not a smart man, but I know what a good name is…
@@threepwood56 I usually stop at, "I'm not a smart man..." ;)
Great video sir
@@jonathenbishop1119 Thank you! I'll keep doing them ;)
Awsome !! I want to build mine out of pallet boards with foam create poured in .makes strong structure fire proof and floats .🎉🎉🎉
@stevenpalmore4299 taking some of the those pallets apart is brutal. Others not so bad. I did the inside of my garage once with them. It looked great ;)
@@backwatersandbackroads there is a new saw blade called the piranha...cuts nails like butter. Sawzall makes shot work of them.
@stevenpalmore4299 I've seen it. You're right ;)
Great job, He has a good start there!
Personally, I HAVE to be able to have good aft visibility. I would install a sliding glass door, double pane, with an insulted curtain to cover it in cold weather. And plenty of windows, starboard and port sides. I love my Nomad, but, I still want to build a Shanty. How about a follow up when Forrest finishes his Shanty?
@doncollins786 part of the awesomeness is having a 360 view of the surroundings in a Shanty style boat.
I see a problem similar to steel shipping container homes- nothing to attach shelving or cabinets to.
That's why I like wood on walls. It's easy.
Huh…you got me thinking🤔
@@Fit2beTied me too ;)
That is a good one
Thanks brother ;)
Cool Material!!!
@@roydesignedthat I knew you'd like this Roy ;) and you're the smaller channel shout-out of the week again.
@backwatersandbackroads thank Brenton!!! Those panels have me thinking a tiny home would be so easy!
I love it
@@DIYCameraGuy I knew you'd like this one buddy ;)
Sliding glass door for rear.
Mine had plexiglass sliders for and after. Saves a lot of space.
@kenngreene6617 I know catamaran cruiser does the same.
I couldn't help but notice that the chic-a-dee didn't last long. It'll be fine, my brother. Move on and keep fishing.
@@mountainmandale1587 will have more to say eventually.
Incredible tiny homes uses this same building principle.
They have a RUclips channel.
Could you explain to us the hurdles that we will have to go through when we register a shanty that we build from scratch. I asked coast guard about registering it and it’s a bit complicated. I understand it will have to be registered and covered by insurance to be legal on the water. Also to park it in a marina it may need an inspection of some type as required for insurance? What are your thoughts?
Howdy, all good questions. I can tell you my experiences with a great many boats. If you build a shanty from a pontoon, if the pontoon has a title, you're fine. Putting a cabin on it won't change anything. If you use an already existing hull...same deal. Of you build your own hull, I think you'll have to get a hull # for it. That depends on where you live. As far as insurance, that's for others to answer ;) overall: you will be fine however you go about it.
OK a slider
Thank you Mary ;)
Only one 5 second cameo from wavy the star?
She's been running the camera lately. Lol
What do you guys think about Lowe boats (pontoons)
@CatchLastCast I've seen some good older ones for sure. The thing to look for, siS of toons and quality of aluminum. A deck can be redone pretty easy. All the fancy furniture will probably go away. The tracker brand back in the day really made tough pontoon boats.
@ my neighbor has a Bass Buggie… I have a Lowe…. Great chattin bud
What is the flat roof boat YT channel name? You didn't include the link and couldn't catch the name... thx
Was it "shanty boat shallow-lady" on YT? That's my buddy Chris' boat.
Where do we go to buy flags and stickers??
Howdy. You can email me? Are you in the Shallow Drafters by chance? Link in description. bnetz95959@yahoo.com
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@billydaniel900 thanks for helping the algorithm brother ;)
@backwatersandbackroads your welcome
Not sure the bigger center toon is a good idea saftey wise.
@@libertyforamericanow explain?
@backwatersandbackroads just thinking that it would make the middle more buoyant than the outsides and could cause some instability in waves.
I could be wrong. I would just go with the same size
@libertyforamericanow I hear the reasoning. I've wondered that also, but I do know the manufacturers do go with larger center toons, partially to get up on plain with higher HP. My guess is 3 inches will still settle into the water. We'll find out ;)
@backwatersandbackroads As they sit higher, is the wind more of a factor keeping them oriented in direction of travel?
@flatbedtruckingsamrides.9355 I do think that is a factor, but not as much as folks often think.
Put A Dutch Door In!!
@@howardh316 like the Vagabond;)
It would be helpful to get ventilation and keep the dog in.
East KY? Where , I am a hill billy from that area...
@sylvester2294 the cumberland falls area
A slider door…like on a
Trawler..
@@erikyoutube5692 yeap. That's the best for limited space
@@backwatersandbackroads yep
My Thought...cannot have too much visibility....and he said Corbin,Ky...so he is just barely a hill billy...:-)
@sylvester2294 I was surprised to see that area is considered Appalachia
@@backwatersandbackroads just barely....it's near the wilderness road area I think...? From Michigan? He's no stinkin' hillbilly...:-)
Put a green house on the roof ...save on grociers
@@stevenpalmore4299 and a deer blind for meat ;)
I would build a inner wall on the back and make a pocket door it access the back deck
How About A Murphy Bed,This Way You Can Fold It Out Of The Way.
A murphy bed that converts to a couch.. for support. And furniture
@@howardh316 IKEA sells them ;) I almost went that route too
He definitely needs a back door.
I think he's leaning toward that too
Is Nancy ok?
@@LinDuhLou I hope so. She's on her homestead. Ends up, she's doesn't care for this lifestyle as much as she imagined. I'll explain more eventually. Thank you for your understanding
@ I hope you’re ok too…
Hi WAVEY!
@LinDuhLou Howdy! We're doing good. Nosy Beagle Interview in-coming today around 5pm. Stay tuned...;)