When he said Kevin had his number after the meeting sending Darrell on a free ride killed it. The point of you hating Vickers is proof you love to hate (ignorant people who live in fantasy, like your tight shirt is a fantasy besides benching the 165 that’s ‘’your weight’’. Im sure it took strength to shoehorn into your nieces shirt. You literally rewrite a show that means literally nothing. It was a fill when the show was dying. Farrell is allowed to riff but generally respectful now. And I am someone who grew up at the Comedy Workshop in Houston, I was in the green room with Sam Kinison daily, Bill Hicks a regular family friend until he moved to England. Know theory, history before you think you are even able to learn comedic trades, I was 6 when I started . Plus Ricky runs the show . The award show antics were just that. And if your ideas on writing comedy were respected that’s what you would do, nobody even wants to but your jokes. I got $500 if you gave a joke I can sell in front of real people. Quit hating, start creating . Or clear out for someone who will
The problem with Diangelo is that his personality is not consistant. He has a different personality in each of the 4 episodes he is in and it comes of as weird, unrelateable and confusing.
That ending with Michael going into his office apart from the others. Really hits in a way that always surprises me. Great physical performance from Carell.
I agree, adding D’Angelo was a bad move. Bringing on Ferrell itself, maybe not, but his character was definitely ill-conceived. They should have set up his character to be obviously temporary, not the new boss. There are just so many other ideas they could have gone with. For instance, the office could have had an office party for Michael at the bar and Michael could have a chance meeting with D’Angelo who is an executive for a company in Iowa. Thus Michael lucks into a new job. Now the viewer can rest easy knowing Michael has some sort of future ahead of him.
I agree with your assessment. In addition to DeAngelo being a complete cartoon and un-relatable in any way, I forgot how they rewound the clock on all the character development for everyone else as well?! Having worked to bring some real humanity into the series, this felt like an entire new writing team had taken over. That said, I think two of my favorite Dwight lines ever are in the next episode (“I’m a sick freak? No! YOU’RE the sick freak!” And “so, a bit about me; I respond very well to authority.”)
D'Angelo Vickers is such an absurd character that his story arc feels like they jumped the shark in slow motion. I could see past the famous actor playing Charles Miner, but with D'Angelo they never broke past the sense of Will Farrell doing a bit. The only good thing I can say about the character is that he sets up Robert California to be totally grounded and plausible as the kind of weirdo who manage to thrive in chaotic tech companies like Sabre.
I'm with you. I just don't get D'Angelo at all. Every other character in the show previously, from Jan to Toby to Todd Packer, is someone that everyone can relate to a coworker they've known. I don't have any clue who D'Angelo is supposed to be. Every scene feels like a random ad-lib. Even the name, "D'Angelo Vickers" sounds like it came out of a random name generator.
I didn't watch The Office until it was streaming so I wasn't aware that Deangelo was only supposed to be a stop gap and always felt like those four episodes just seemed chaotic. I guess in some ways that's the vibe of an office undergoing a transition to a new boss so it fits. But I'm also not a fan of Will Farrell so I tend to rank these episodes low as well.
I love this stupid, stupid arc. I can't defend it on any rational grounds. It's just love. A lot of the absurd, nonsequitur-style bits just land for me.
Damn 18:27 should have woukd have could have needed that idea in the writer's room. That tangent you just described would have set up that whole Dwight Jr. (Next generations) ark for the office. I could see the show progressing like Degrassi from there. Where the story is relatable but now it follows some of the characters in new more deeply relatable lights. Oh man that would have been so good. You should commission a comic book
I actually liked D'Angelo in this episode and the one where he co-hosted the Dundees. I thought the character was funny in a different way from Michael Scott, providing laughter without being too much of a jerk and showing potential for future seasons with someone else as Regional Manager. To me he didn't feel awkward the way Andy did once he became Regional Manager. My dislike for D'Angelo happens once it is revealed he is misogynistic, which the writers must have done in order to make fans happy to see him leave.
I thought D’Angelo was a smart move. Everyone was going to hate whatever happened when Michael left. Why not make a big unlikeable throw away character to sacrifice? No matter what these 4 episodes did everyone would hate the way someone took Michaels job. Why not lean into the cringe.
I like this episode even less now that you have made me consider the casting of someone like Louis CK for the role. That would have been soo much better.
I cannot stand D'Angelo. I skip him every time-- except for the singing tribute at the end of the Dundees episode (which he also manages to ruin, but I watch it anyway...) Meredith's "you hit me with your car" cracks me up every time.
I love Will Ferrel and all, but even I'll admit Deangelo Vickers just didn't work. I think that the biggest problem is that they never really nailed down what his shtick was, he almost felt like he changed his whole character throughout the course of only four episodes. Maybe if he had stayed on for longer, Deangelo could have developed into the greatest character ever, but he didn't get that much of a chance. From what we see, the whole thing just feels kind of weird and off.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770aybe not specifically that, but i think his later episodes are supposed to show him as not a fit for the branch, or that the show doesn’t work with a character who’s too Michael alike and. That a status quo change like bringing in Robert worked better. Idk
I think what you said about what this episode should have been happened, but across various post-Michael episodes after this one rather than this specific episode sticking the landing
This was my favourite episode because... haha only joking, it was bollocks. When Michael left they should have had titles on the end credits that explained how Dunder Mifflin burned to the ground immediately after he went and everybody died.
I would give this episode a 1 out of 5. It was stupid and not at all funny. I'm not a big Will Ferrell fan, as he's too slapstick for my taste. But I think the writers could have made this episode and the following shows with him better. For one thing, leave out the scene where he's eating the sheet cake like a huge slob. It was grossly weird. One thing I did like was the early scene where he meets Michael. But that was because Michael was part of it and added to the funny.
I would have loved if they just planned on replacing Carell with Ferrell for the majority of the next season. I love the battle of the four for number 2, but they could even go for number 1 and make it a season long plot line; behind Ferrell’s back. Then for season 9 maybe someone gets it, or none of them do and Jim Carrey takes over for a portion of season 9. I think they should have relied more on heavy hitters, catering to their strengths. I LOVE the Louis CK idea, I think that choice would have been marvelous. Where he’s super deadpan and dry, the total opposite of Scott.
I hated the D'angelo storyline, i can usually find things i like about storylines, but nothing about him is likable, he was an obvious plant and it really wrecked the ambience of the office
Im rewatching office after a bit, and after steve left, this show just went downhill. Andys storyline, roberts bs n sabre nonsense are just unbearable. Not a one damn thing makes sense, pyramid plotline, dwight being dumb, nellys character, dont want to even talk abt erins character, unbelievably toned dumb. What a waste, disappointing. Definitely leaves a bad taste 😆
This is definitely one of, if not, my least favourite episode. It kind of annoys me throughout. The one thing I disagree about however, is that I do think Michael would be likely to revert to his more jealous ways, watching the people he loves as family, accept the new boss with open arms, trying to win his affection. I think a lot of people like to feel irreplaceable, especially Michael-types, no matter how much inner work he has done and how much he's grown. Something like this is very likely to bring those feelings out.
When I first saw Will Farrell was going to be the boss, I didn’t care for it… his comedy style is different than what Steve had shown Michaels to be… so, for me, I knew I wouldn’t care for it… I was right… the writers saw the same thing, I believe, because each episode he was in, his character was totally different… Will Farrell played 3 different characters (4 if you count the concussion)… how are we supposed to learn to live his character when we don’t know which one he really is? And sometimes his character would change MID EPISODE! It was just weird, out of place and poorly timed…
What I find weirdest about this episode is the structure It begins with Michael and Deangelo bonding then they get some differences and then they get along decently enough It's so weird it makes me wonder if the writers just didn't have any concepts to do with Deangelo outside of him having some banter with Michael
i think that they messed up with d'angelo because in this ep and the next 3 he comes off as a decent boss and he could show just what happens to the office without the leg room the people in it gets (kinda like a charles situation but without Michael making everything better) instead they made his a sexist ass and gave him brain damage the first episode he was alone
I wasn’t a D’Angelo Vickers fan but his episodes did give us the line “That baby could be the star of a show called ‘Babies I Don’t Care About.’”
My favorite line that D’Angelo Vickers ever said
When he said Kevin had his number after the meeting sending Darrell on a free ride killed it. The point of you hating Vickers is proof you love to hate (ignorant people who live in fantasy, like your tight shirt is a fantasy besides benching the 165 that’s ‘’your weight’’. Im sure it took strength to shoehorn into your nieces shirt. You literally rewrite a show that means literally nothing. It was a fill when the show was dying. Farrell is allowed to riff but generally respectful now. And I am someone who grew up at the Comedy Workshop in Houston, I was in the green room with Sam Kinison daily, Bill Hicks a regular family friend until he moved to England. Know theory, history before you think you are even able to learn comedic trades, I was 6 when I started . Plus Ricky runs the show . The award show antics were just that. And if your ideas on writing comedy were respected that’s what you would do, nobody even wants to but your jokes. I got $500 if you gave a joke I can sell in front of real people. Quit hating, start creating . Or clear out for someone who will
The problem with Diangelo is that his personality is not consistant. He has a different personality in each of the 4 episodes he is in and it comes of as weird, unrelateable and confusing.
That ending with Michael going into his office apart from the others. Really hits in a way that always surprises me. Great physical performance from Carell.
I agree, adding D’Angelo was a bad move. Bringing on Ferrell itself, maybe not, but his character was definitely ill-conceived. They should have set up his character to be obviously temporary, not the new boss. There are just so many other ideas they could have gone with. For instance, the office could have had an office party for Michael at the bar and Michael could have a chance meeting with D’Angelo who is an executive for a company in Iowa. Thus Michael lucks into a new job. Now the viewer can rest easy knowing Michael has some sort of future ahead of him.
I agree with your assessment. In addition to DeAngelo being a complete cartoon and un-relatable in any way, I forgot how they rewound the clock on all the character development for everyone else as well?! Having worked to bring some real humanity into the series, this felt like an entire new writing team had taken over.
That said, I think two of my favorite Dwight lines ever are in the next episode (“I’m a sick freak? No! YOU’RE the sick freak!” And “so, a bit about me; I respond very well to authority.”)
I can’t wait for you to review the Robert California era
D'Angelo Vickers is such an absurd character that his story arc feels like they jumped the shark in slow motion. I could see past the famous actor playing Charles Miner, but with D'Angelo they never broke past the sense of Will Farrell doing a bit. The only good thing I can say about the character is that he sets up Robert California to be totally grounded and plausible as the kind of weirdo who manage to thrive in chaotic tech companies like Sabre.
I'm with you. I just don't get D'Angelo at all. Every other character in the show previously, from Jan to Toby to Todd Packer, is someone that everyone can relate to a coworker they've known. I don't have any clue who D'Angelo is supposed to be. Every scene feels like a random ad-lib. Even the name, "D'Angelo Vickers" sounds like it came out of a random name generator.
I listen to this every night falling asleep you deserve 1 million subs
Not sucking up to bosses gets me in a lot of trouble, I just can't be fake.
I didn't watch The Office until it was streaming so I wasn't aware that Deangelo was only supposed to be a stop gap and always felt like those four episodes just seemed chaotic. I guess in some ways that's the vibe of an office undergoing a transition to a new boss so it fits. But I'm also not a fan of Will Farrell so I tend to rank these episodes low as well.
I love this stupid, stupid arc. I can't defend it on any rational grounds. It's just love. A lot of the absurd, nonsequitur-style bits just land for me.
Damn 18:27 should have woukd have could have needed that idea in the writer's room. That tangent you just described would have set up that whole Dwight Jr. (Next generations) ark for the office. I could see the show progressing like Degrassi from there. Where the story is relatable but now it follows some of the characters in new more deeply relatable lights. Oh man that would have been so good. You should commission a comic book
Good day for a new video, thank you!
I loved every moment of D’Angelo and wish that WF was there for the rest of the series.
I will die on this hill! Haha
I actually liked D'Angelo in this episode and the one where he co-hosted the Dundees. I thought the character was funny in a different way from Michael Scott, providing laughter without being too much of a jerk and showing potential for future seasons with someone else as Regional Manager. To me he didn't feel awkward the way Andy did once he became Regional Manager. My dislike for D'Angelo happens once it is revealed he is misogynistic, which the writers must have done in order to make fans happy to see him leave.
Everybody’s wrong about these episodes. They are all gold.
I thought D’Angelo was a smart move. Everyone was going to hate whatever happened when Michael left. Why not make a big unlikeable throw away character to sacrifice?
No matter what these 4 episodes did everyone would hate the way someone took Michaels job. Why not lean into the cringe.
I think you got this one right, it's an episode for sure.
I like this episode even less now that you have made me consider the casting of someone like Louis CK for the role. That would have been soo much better.
D’Angelo is the worst
I cannot stand D'Angelo. I skip him every time-- except for the singing tribute at the end of the Dundees episode (which he also manages to ruin, but I watch it anyway...) Meredith's "you hit me with your car" cracks me up every time.
The DeAngelo Dundies episode was what this episode should have been imo
I love Will Ferrel and all, but even I'll admit Deangelo Vickers just didn't work. I think that the biggest problem is that they never really nailed down what his shtick was, he almost felt like he changed his whole character throughout the course of only four episodes. Maybe if he had stayed on for longer, Deangelo could have developed into the greatest character ever, but he didn't get that much of a chance. From what we see, the whole thing just feels kind of weird and off.
I feel like he was supposed to not work but I could be wrong
Nice Minecraft pfp, takes me back
@@Cdr2002 so… was he like, there to make Andy look good or something?
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770aybe not specifically that, but i think his later episodes are supposed to show him as not a fit for the branch, or that the show doesn’t work with a character who’s too Michael alike and. That a status quo change like bringing in Robert worked better. Idk
I think what you said about what this episode should have been happened, but across various post-Michael episodes after this one rather than this specific episode sticking the landing
This was my favourite episode because... haha only joking, it was bollocks. When Michael left they should have had titles on the end credits that explained how Dunder Mifflin burned to the ground immediately after he went and everybody died.
who hurt you ?
@@j-bob_oreo Your mum.
here's a bowl of ice cream, you either like it or you dont
I don’t like this arc either, but the cake bit is one of my favorites in the whole series, especially without knowing the back story.
Re the Will Farrell arc--what do you think about Bill Murray playing a corpse in one episode of Parks and Rec?
I would give this episode a 1 out of 5. It was stupid and not at all funny. I'm not a big Will Ferrell fan, as he's too slapstick for my taste. But I think the writers could have made this episode and the following shows with him better. For one thing, leave out the scene where he's eating the sheet cake like a huge slob. It was grossly weird. One thing I did like was the early scene where he meets Michael. But that was because Michael was part of it and added to the funny.
These are the episodes I skip. I can’t stand Will Ferrell
I would have loved if they just planned on replacing Carell with Ferrell for the majority of the next season. I love the battle of the four for number 2, but they could even go for number 1 and make it a season long plot line; behind Ferrell’s back. Then for season 9 maybe someone gets it, or none of them do and Jim Carrey takes over for a portion of season 9. I think they should have relied more on heavy hitters, catering to their strengths. I LOVE the Louis CK idea, I think that choice would have been marvelous. Where he’s super deadpan and dry, the total opposite of Scott.
I hated the D'angelo storyline, i can usually find things i like about storylines, but nothing about him is likable, he was an obvious plant and it really wrecked the ambience of the office
I thought D'Angelo was inspired. Back to a true jerk boss you could root against. I liked it. Come at me internet.
At the pace you’re going we’ll be lucky if you finish this by 2030
Im rewatching office after a bit, and after steve left, this show just went downhill. Andys storyline, roberts bs n sabre nonsense are just unbearable. Not a one damn thing makes sense, pyramid plotline, dwight being dumb, nellys character, dont want to even talk abt erins character, unbelievably toned dumb. What a waste, disappointing. Definitely leaves a bad taste 😆
That's episode was just there to me. I didn't think it hurt or made the show better filler episode
This is definitely one of, if not, my least favourite episode. It kind of annoys me throughout.
The one thing I disagree about however, is that I do think Michael would be likely to revert to his more jealous ways, watching the people he loves as family, accept the new boss with open arms, trying to win his affection. I think a lot of people like to feel irreplaceable, especially Michael-types, no matter how much inner work he has done and how much he's grown. Something like this is very likely to bring those feelings out.
When I first saw Will Farrell was going to be the boss, I didn’t care for it… his comedy style is different than what Steve had shown Michaels to be… so, for me, I knew I wouldn’t care for it… I was right… the writers saw the same thing, I believe, because each episode he was in, his character was totally different… Will Farrell played 3 different characters (4 if you count the concussion)… how are we supposed to learn to live his character when we don’t know which one he really is? And sometimes his character would change MID EPISODE! It was just weird, out of place and poorly timed…
Sooner rather than later. Showing how much Michael is missed. Also sees where Michael
Needs to move on.
What I find weirdest about this episode is the structure
It begins with Michael and Deangelo bonding then they get some differences and then they get along decently enough
It's so weird it makes me wonder if the writers just didn't have any concepts to do with Deangelo outside of him having some banter with Michael
I forgot how insufferable D'Angelo was until i revisited S7.
I hate the D'Angelo arc. I hate the improv-y jokes, I hate how slow it feels, I hate how everyone reacts to him. I just don't get it.
D'Angelo is hilarious!! Stop the hate
DeAngelo is better than Andy any day of the year. By miles.
This channel does nothing but give their opinion while showing clips of IP. Pretty lowbrow
Boom roasted
@@Mulverine what does that mean?
Ah, it’s just a reference from the show I love and talk about in a “lowbrow” manner.
i think that they messed up with d'angelo because in this ep and the next 3 he comes off as a decent boss and he could show just what happens to the office without the leg room the people in it gets (kinda like a charles situation but without Michael making everything better) instead they made his a sexist ass and gave him brain damage the first episode he was alone
Like a lot of Will Ferrell career. Not Funny