So... The Sims is basically doomed (Project Renee)
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- EA recently announced that The Sims 5 will not be coming, as well as some other bad Sims news!
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Sims 3: Want a grass fridge? Fine! Want a metal sofa? Fine!
Sims 4: You will have these colours and you *will* like them.
And they dont even match a lot of times...
My leading theory is that they do this to keep the gallery pretty. If they gave people complete control it would look like chaos. Like, we used to be able to make some wild inhuman looking sims. Not anymore.
oh god, I'm being held by gunpoint..
Ah yes.. Sims 4 the game of the 19th century
Haha yeah that was funny
He didn't learn the 'take two number of the year and add 1 then you have the century' trick? 😂😂
That sh*t killed me😭
I cackled at this. 😂 I love him sfm.
And he seriously tells us he graduted ijbol
It really makes me sad to think how downhill the sims has gone. I also feel bad for other fans of the sims that don’t have the kind of computer that can handle games like paralives. It just is sad knowing that it could have been incredible, but it’s not.
But should't most computers be compatible with Paralives? Inzoi, on the other hand, is a different story...
Inzoi has very high demands, but paralives is supposedly gonna be compatible with alot of older gen pc's. They are really trying to work on the optimization of the foundation within the game and trying to avoid high poly counts etc. So to avoid it being difficult to run!
sims 4’s whole point is that it is a light weight game originally built for online gameplay so it runs fine on most pcs. the limitations of sims 4 like no open world bad ai and no color wheel comes from that. sims 4 is a nice game and it would have been dumb if ea made a sims 5 when sims 4 works so well for what it is
@@togoxoThe problem is that it doesn't work well as anything at all. The game is a broken, buggy mess. If it worked well as an optimized game, then that would be fine.
@@togoxoSims 4 works well for what it is? Really? Even basic commands get canceled out because of the many bad coding in the game. the AI is ridiculous, just take a look at infants. The game is not good and that's that.
Remember when people were unhappy about the underwhelming Sims 4 at release and said they'd wait until Sims 5, and a SimGuru said if people didn't buy Sims 4 there wouldn't BE a Sims 5? And now Sims 4 has been successful for a decade and.....there still won't be a Sims 5.
That was me. I played the demo in 2014 and decided to just kept playing Sims 3/Medieval. I honestly ignored the Sims 4 until 2017 when I happened to hear they added toddlers. I checked it out and the game had filled out a lot of basics so I figured I could grin and bear it until Sims 5. After all it was 3/5 years between release dates down. Because Sims 5 would be released around 2019 right.... 2020?.... After COVID?.... When the Sims 4 is a decade old and milked dry?...For the franchise's 25th anniversary?.....
I truly never lost hope until now hearing this news.
That sim guru was sim guru Grant, manchild, fan of YA focused "gameplay"
it's like when they refused to give better wages on the pretext that it would raise prices, so they didn't raise wages but prices went up anyway
This game will never be good. Its so broken, townies suck and are so dumb, half the packs are so broken. I'm so sick of new expansion packs and new content when most of them are so broken and unplayable.
Most of the new worlds are boring and bland I don't even visit Tomarang
@@Ready-ForTheEnd😂😂😂
Thr whole game is broken to the core.
The neighborhood stories don't work, my sims randomly got a baby, I got the adoption and pregnancy disabled and yet a baby appeared and now when I tried to give the baby away it got stuck on a loading screen... I probably lost my save file 😢
@@Pipapiscado you have mccc?
Most of the player base would move on to The Sims 5, because it would, in theory, be a better game than The Sims 4, but the fact that they wont even try is honestly embarrassing 💀The whole "we don't want to make players lose progress" is a bad excuse imo.
I wished they would've been at least a LITTLE transparent by saying something like "we know how much time and money you have spent on The Sims 4" or something along the lines of that. They can at least acknowledge their expensive game that's over $1,200 and the 80 DLC for it. Because alot of people who bought every single pack will find it hard to start all over again because of the amount of dollars that came out of their pockets for this game. But aside from that, ALOT of people actually want to move onto a new game but this is the hill they choose to die on... literally💀
We cant even play a game for long enough before it breaks.
@tiffanytho9676 A few days ago, the game just refused to launch. I went in and removed my entire mods folder out of the game but lo and behold that wasn't even the problem. It's the game itself🙃
@@end_of_eternityI don't think people would even be too mad as long as they didn't paywall basic things like seasons and pets in a new game. Like yeah, we spent money on Sims 4 in the past, but if they made it worth our while we'd invest in Sims 5 going forward.
@@end_of_eternity i literally stopped buying packs and used Other Ways because i wanted sims 5
Accidentally got here early. If EA really wants to keep building on the sims 4, they need to do a comprehensive update and bug fixes. Just adding more and more packs when the game is fundamentally broken cannot carry the franchise for much longer. I am excited for the MySims remaster though
EA doesn't care about a few players leaving the Sims world. Most will continue to buy the new packs. As a FIFA player, I have seen nothing different in the last 10 years. EA is a money machine and investors continue to expect the usual income. Sims 5 is not in EA's interest at the moment
There is no way they can continue with The Sims 4 for much longer. By now, this game is comparable to a 20-year-old car. For everything they fix, they do more damage. The code is nearing breaking point with every new update and every new DLC. They need to let go, if they want to continue to milk the franchise. Sometimes, you have to invest, no matter what. Sometimes, you have to renew, at least to a degree.
We don’t even need an open world but at LEAST make it semi-open world?? I’m just sick of having loading screens everywhere, even to go to the neighbour’s house. It’s exhausting.
Fr like open neighborhoods would be perfect. It’s so stupid having no to load in when you’re already standing right outside your neighbors 🤦🏻♀️
Agreed!!!
@@kkmwrie2020 right like that’s the most frustrating part!! You can look through the windows and see the damn furniture inside smh🤡🤡
I’m no coder. But I feel as if this would be possible if they tried
@@rinkagamine1621 not only you can see the furniture, you can see even the objects reflexed on mirrors.
i want more realistic sims, behaviours, gameplay, interesting content, creating worlds.. not a separate game just for mobiles and online, decorating and a pink door wtf
The Sims 4 is OVER
Many people on the Sims project left, so what you have now is a cash cow being milked to death.
Yeah, you'll be better off with paralives or inzoi. I think the way the sims will differentiate themselves from those other two games is with it's cartoon style, throw backs, and silliness.
(Paralives is cartoon too, but it's cartoon-cozy vs cartoon-silly. And I think their vibe is going to be much easier to take your time with an infant or plant seasons because they're making each piece of the fame so mindfully, it will feel worth while to do that. Whereas in the sims I'm periodically like, "crap, I haven't made a spaceship yet." So, I don't have emotional time for infant milestones.
(Inzoi is going to be some silly chaos too, but it's more realistic im graphics which I think also makes realistic gameplay better).
But the sims, I don't know, it's so chaotic that I feel like any level of realism feels out of place. Like plants should just have one growing season. Infants should have fewer milestones etc. for one thing walking is in real time even though the day is so much faster, so that alone is a reason not to over complicate any particular gameplay dynamic.
y'all idk which unhealed part of our brains is making us play this game..
sims is a toxic relationship at this point
Just use your brain and don‘t … play it? Pretty easy.
It's abusive relationship but we're getting inzoi and paralives
Personally I like making characters and playing as them which I why I play a lot of customisable rpgs, however there aren't a lot of life simulation games like the sims out there. If the sims had any sort of competition this franchise would have been dead a long time ago
i love to retraumatize myself with the fact how empty the game was at release.
I give 0 F*cks about multiplayer, GIMME OPEN NEIGHBORHOOD PLEASE OMFG 😠
Yesssss
They have that as an exclusive Bethesda feature. More loading screens for everyone!
Multiplayer mode, nonono not for meeee
Let’s be real. It WAS supposed to be Sims 5, but people were dragging it so hard that EA and Maxis decided to change the narrative to save their asses.
It's sims 4 Remastered
Trust 💀
@@DummyAcount-rs5tj Yes, i just commented that! it will have the new features and all the assets will be backwards compatible.
EA kept saying it wasn’t going to be Sims 5. But people were assuming that meant it wasn’t going to be a SIMS game but instead a new game.
@@DummyAcount-rs5tj Sims 4 Remastered: you now have to pay for a monthly subscription to actually play the game :D
Agreed
It's a real shame that a follow-up game hasn't been developed in 10 years.
EA and Maxis should be really ashamed of themselves.
they should be but they dont give a fuck
Agreed, I just don't know how they have sat there doing nothing for so long when other competitors are popping up in the market? I feel so upset as I love the sims but EA are slowly killing the game through their laziness. I will be looking to play para lives and inzoi and that's after being a player of the sims since sims 1 but the bugs and glitches are making gameplay enjoyment really challenging!
There is no Maxis any longer, not the way it was in the days of Sims 1 to Sims 3. They're fully part of EA, have been stripped down to the bones, and can't really work for themselves any longer. Maxis is in-name-only now, not a studio any longer.
I find it funny their reasoning was "we don't want players to start over after a decade of gameplay" a decade YOU created and we WANT to start a new one finally. Give us the new game
I was willing to spend almost $300 on packs I wanted. Now I'm not buying anymore, I'll use a cracked version before I give EA anymore money
Exactly, makes no freaking sense! This time we actually WANT to start over, but they threatened yet another decade. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. 😵💫
EA has their own language, so allow me to translate what they said for you :)
"We don't want to use our money to make another game when we can just add infinite shitty packs to get money from a broken game"
Cause sadly people will still buy these packs, especially content creators to test them out for viewers which only gives EA exactly what they want..more money..
@@iampersephone5532 Definitely use a cracked version, don't give these greedy devs anymore of your hard earned money. I made that mistake, luckily I haven't bought all of the dlc, I stopped 2 years ago and ran a cracked version, no way im giving this greedy company anymore money, especially when they wanna charge ridiculous amounts for shallow content.
It's fine.
Let it die.
I got enough other things to play.
I keep thinking the team behind The Sims is entirely made up of businessmen who've never played the game and are completely detached from what their customers demand...
if they had added color wheels back then, there would be no swatch updates for base game now. They would have come up with actually something instead 8,D
Exactly! I always say that listening to dedicated simmers get so excited about stuff like new swatches reminds me of listening to someone in an abusive relationship get so excited about their partner doing the dishes once, or not yelling at them for making a mistake... they don't even realize or understand that that's listerally what everyone else has in their relationship, only also way more. Just like the tiny things simmers get excited about are things every other game already does, but way more.
Tbh, I didn't used to be much of a gamer, so I didn't always really understand this either. But my husband is an avid gamer and he absolutely hates the Sims because of how EA runs it. Even if he wanted to play it, I think he probably wouldn't just on principle.
Project Columbus died and now is project Renesme is going to be a mess.
Project Renesmee 💀 💀 💀 😂
twilight fan?
Columbus and Renesme 😭😭😭😭
Lmfaooo Renesme 💀
they’ve only done this cuz they’re making so much BANK from the dlc in ts4 🤨
You know what I want in Sims 4? Sims I don't hate. The townies annoy me like crazy and even my own Sims don't feel the same like my TS3 Sims. Mostly because I don't understand them. They just do whatever they want but not what I tell them (autonomy is switched off btw)
Anyway, you expressed my thoughts exactly. A new Sims game makes more sense than thousands of updates to a broken game...
The Sims2 & Sims 3 had far more gameplay than we have in Sims 4, it's is such a leap backwards and I just don't enjoy playing the Sims anymore. Build mode is great, but live mode just doesn't cut it compared to what we had in previous Sims games.
I wish sims 4 was more of a mix of 2 and 3 vs what it is now.
I played s2 a lot way back when it was current. Wonderful times and memories. Had a neighbourhood I build from scratch and filled it over 3 years with sims together with my sister. By the end we had graveyards, shops of all kinds (all of which were owned by a houshold and had employees from the town.) Restaurants. Apartments many self designed. A china town. A collage campus. Our main families were 11 and 14 generations deep. My second main family which started in the downtown map became very succesfull via casinos. And I made an entire chain of them each with a different theme. And we made many interconnected stories. S3 neighboorhood agkng wasnt for us so we couldnt play together anymore but we still liked it but in s3 zhere were so many rabbitholes and the lagging was insane. And by the end you couldnt rewlly play with all addons enabled. S4 was so lackluster. The build mode great but the live mod is just lifeless😢
a few years ago, didn't EA say "if you don't buy the Sims 4, you won't get the Sims 5". Now they are saying "cos you spend all your time and money in the Sims 4 we aren't going to make the Sims 5". That is blackmail, pure and simple. Some other legal ramifications present themselves too
What are the legal ramifications?
@@amdl270 nothing lmao. 1. it is a large company, the law is on their side. 2. it's not like it was a specific promise they made, like x sales by y time will give the sims 5 in z timespan
my sims still choose to walk across entire 50x40 lots to take a dirty food/plates to the bathroom trash bin despite there being a perfectly good dumpster not even 4 steps away from where they were so like... they can add whatever they want onto it, but the game is still so abysmal and the sims coding is still genuinely helplessly stupid. until they tell me they overhauled the ai/sims behavior entirely, i'll never be able to play more than a few hours of sims a month before pulling my hair out and leaving to play another game lol.
The fundamental problem with new Sims sequels is that they always go back to complete basics. They don't build upon anything that has come previously. In fact in many ways we take several steps backwards. I shouldn't have to buys pets and seasons for every new game, it should be baseline as to what to expect. Unfortunately cooperate greed wins out every time.
But if pets and seasons are included in the base game, they can't charge you $100 to buy them again.
@@ScooterinAB yeah, it must be difficult when your as creatively bankrupt as EA to come up with new things to sell to their players.
I mean the power is in Maxis' hand to NOT do that. And I think they know they would have struggled send out a barebones Sims 5 that wasn't open world when InZoi and Paralives are both open world and set to deliver things like weather and cars as a basegame element. And, you know, they could just charge for the GAME. Yeah, you've pumped your numbers with free-to-play, it works, but the problem with free to play is you need enough whales buying everything to supplement the people who play for free and then never end up buying in. Sims cost money to make and maintain and what use to pay for that is BUYING THE GAME. Now that its free, they HAVE to sell the packs, the base game is just bait to sell packs which ultimately has made the packs more restrictive than before. They want you to feel like you've run out of things to do, so you'll buy something else.
If EA honestly wants to keep The Sims 4 as a main title game they should consider what we have up until now "Legacy Sims 4" and focus on updating the core game to include the features Simmers desperately want, like... Open Worlds, Create a World, Colour wheels, Smarter Sim AI. If they can do this and Rebrand the Game as "The Sims" I think that's the best-case scenario for the path they've laid out for themselves.
Maybe it's just me settling, but I don't even care about an open world. I'd just like to see more than 8 lots per world. I'd like to have neighbours.
The problem is, if they really stick to updating the Sims 4, they’re still severely limited in what they can change about the game. If they remove or alter the base code to make it functionally better or allow for features that previously weren’t possible, everyone’s saves are gonna break. Not that saves don’t already break sometimes, but literally nobody’s saves would be playable anymore. And considering their main reasoning for not making a new Sims being that they “don’t want simmers to have to start over” (even though I don’t buy that), it would be a really bad look if everybody’s saves were suddenly unplayable. It’s also a TON of work. So much work that you’re basically creating a new game at that point, which EA obviously wants to avoid
Open world on TS4 engine will never happen, it’s impossible. The best we could hope for is lighting/shade fixes and a couple of new hairs.
Anything that can be done to this outdated buggy bloatware has been done by modders. If it weren’t for mods and the extensive modding community TS4 would have died at launch.
I was so so upset... I was looking forward to a Sims 5 exactly because I'm not happy with Sims 4 so I had hopes they'd make a Sims 5 that was actually better than The Sims 3... to know they're not planning on making good Sims titles like the old ones anymore just makes me so sad T_T oh well maybe I'm just getting old HAHAHA
Good seeing you here, love your channel.
Common sense + EA sadly just doesn't exist
All I want is Sims 3 game with Sims 4 graphics.
Yes!!
With the Sims 2 animation
YES
Same! I like the aesthetics of sims 4 and the building tools and such, but I want the actual immersive game play of the sims 3.
cc makes my sims 3 more beautiful than the sins 4 base game ever could
honesty project renee seems like spores galactic adventures where its a seperate game but basically the same game with extra parts added onto it allowing a different mechanic to function
Gameplay of the Sims 2
Open World and Customization Options from Sims 3
Build Mode from Sims 4
---It's not that hard, EA. This combination would easily sell a million copies overnight. I guess they just don't like money.
EA having common since? Nah, you'd have a better chance in winning the lottery.
Yes 🙌!
A modernised Sims 3 without the bugs would be perfect!
Yeah can we get a remaster hahaha
The Sims 4: Remastered 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I think EA were most worried about Life by You and that's why they dangled Sims 5 in front of us. Now that LbY is cancelled, EA have dropped the charade.
It definitely was going to be Sims 5 but after seeing Paralives grow, Life By You , and THEN INZOI dropped they knew they could not compete with the market for sandbox simulation anymore so they changed directions. (I also think EA was behind Life By You failing) but thats for another day hehe 🤭
Lets just say…would not be surprised when they do finally drop the next generation, it will look eerily similar to Life By You
Yep! 💯
All of the dev previews they've shared don't really make sense for a spinoff game. Why would they be building on a new engine and reanimating everything from scratch if its a spinoff..? I personally think it was a recent decision to reclassify it as a spinoff, and it WAS originally intended as an exploration of the Sims 5.
My favorite thing my sims do is having to constantly stand up and sit down and stand up and sit down to eat and drink anything! I love it so much!!!!!
We want OPEN WORLDS and COLOUR WHEELS, literally what the older game had and did right.
The 19th century was from 1800 until 1899
bahahahah The 19th century began on 1 January 1801 (represented by the Roman numerals MDCCCI), and ended on 31 December 1900 LMAO.
I really want to know who it is in EA that keeps pushing for online multiplayer, because that person (or those people if multiple) need to GO. It's getting embarrassing, they are very clearly not understanding what their target audience is.
Exactly! They tried to make the new Dragon Age game a live service multiplayer at first. It's wild. Single player audiences want to play single player games. Not sure how many failures they need to see before that sinks in, but you'd hope they'd learn from Skull & Bones, Suicide Squad, Anthem, etc.
Well, Lyndsay Pearson became the TS team leader when TS4 was being created. So... probably her.
-And there's probably some idiots at EA who has NO clue about the TS franchise that wants to force-feed online gaming to all their games on top of that.
Don't need to code any simulation if every sim is controlled by a real person
All these gaming companies want a live service cash cow of their own like Rockstar has with GTA Online so they’ve been trying over and over again without thinking whether the game is suited for it
I remember playing sims 3 and i fully designed every item with patterns and all. Making super original houses.
I hope they will add it to the sims 4 too
I love how there is this topic of “starting over” with pack in a new sims game when they could literally just add all the previous pack features into the base version of a new sims game. Crazy to me how The Sims have warped peoples mind into thinking they absolutely have to pay for every single feature.
It's EA well definitely have to start over. And that's how they lose loyalty.
I hate how they want to turn a notoriously single-player game into multi-player. I don't know any neurospicy introverts that *don't* play this game. EA knows the demographic that they sell all of these packs to. If they make it multi-player, the game is over, and EA isn't even smart enough to know it. If they make me play The Sims with other people, I'm done playing it.
Literally same
With each DLC they release I question who they’re targeting, I honestly think they resent us and are desperately seeking/inticing “new” players constantly just to drown us out.
Stardew Valley has a damn color slider 💀 EA the lack of color wheel is embarrassing.
19th century? Satch😭☠️
I'd be happy if Maxis took Sims 1 or 2 and gave it Sims 4 graphics and build mode. That's all they really need to do for a hit main game 😭
I've been showing my kids sims 1 & 2 to my teen kids to compare to sims 4. Even they're shocked at the quality drop.
I wonder how live service is going to work when everyone has their own combination of mods and packs. Like how am I supposed to see my friend playing in her island when I don't own island living?
oh no... That is probably why they want to do it, so if you want to play with your friend, you have to have the same packs. It will give you more incentive to get the pack your friend has.
If they were smart (they're not) they could make a meeting world, where you can send a household into project renew, and tour other people's houses and interact with other people's sims, but make it sort of a dream, so it doesn't have major effect on your main gameplay.
2000 -2099 is the 21st century. Last century was the 20th century.
Instead of adding all those swatches, they could've just as easily added a color wheel, and I think there's actually a mod that adds one, so it actually is doable.
They have a color wheel and brushes in cats and dogs to paint the pets in cas. Why can't they just put it on everything??
Ts4 has been dead for a while. Tbh I haven't played in nearly two years I just keep watching your content because you're hilarious dude
When you look at communication with investors all that matters is profit. They don't look at what people are complaining about on RUclips and Twitter. The Sims 4 is the most disliked Sims game ever but it's very profitable and it's in the end pretty smart of EA. A base game that is so boring, broken and unambitious, you will want to buy all the DLC just so your game has a bit of flavour. They are like those phone sex line operators, they will keep you hanging so you spend more money. I swear EA has been edging us for 10 years and we are so desperate for fun we stay.
Yep. I started playing when I came across a RUclipsr I used to watch who does Sims stuff. It looked fun. Then I installed it and found that the game was unplayable. Dozens of mods and a few expansion purchases later, the game is finally playable.
It’s kinda of sad.. bc with the sims 2 and sims 3 I used to play all the time for hours and never got bored.. but with the sims 4 I get bored.. and it’s such a money grabber.. I hate it. Like what happened? Why is sims 2 and sims 3 way better than the sims 4?
I wish they would just remake/remaster/refresh the sims 3. That game was so great in so many ways. If they made the graphics and everything look better, make CAS as interactive as the sims 4, and make build buy as easy as the sims 4, maybe even sprinkle in some things from the sims 2 I honestly think it would be the best selling sims game of all time
Same but the thing is I don’t even think the new management understand the coding and structuring of previous sims game. A lot of the older developers, coders and programmers left after the great business shift from MAXIS to EA.
It will most probably be the late late twice removed cousin of Sims Urbz
No mater how many frosting layers you add, if the cake under that frosting is mouldy, it'll still be a mouldy cake in there.
EA need to rewrite the source code of The Sims4 from the ground up.
Doors and windows desperately need a dual colour swatches system : One set for the inside and one for the outside. Each independent from the other. Beds, chairs and couches also need a dual swatches system : Structure and cushion/mattress.
Yes the windows and doors drive me nuts
Lmao, the 19th century was the 1800s. (1801-1900). The 20th century was the 1900s, we are in the 21st century.
satch... we're in the 21st century...
I used the sims 3 to test what my real life wallpaper options would look like up on my walls. I used it to pick a real life wallpaper pattern. It was amazing. The sims 4 could never.
Yes, 2005 was a peak 19th century year honestly
lol I got married on July 2, 2005 AT AGE 27. It was simpler times back then in the 19th century BAHAHAHA
I would looooove just an open neighbourhood I hate how my sim can stand right beside a house or their own house and I have to go through a loading screen and "travel" there..
Big same
They couldnt even be bothered to celebrate Sims 4s birthday on the day, so idk why they bother to work on it for many more years xd
Ohhh we are in a really unhealthy relationship where we don't even celebrate the anniversary....😢
I can guarantee you Project Rene will be a meta verse. Just from the sneak peaks, it looks like a world with hubs and you'll be able to join a server ro interact with other players. I can't imagine you'll be able to actually build houses because it will be in a pre-built city setting, and you'll only be able to decorate your own apartment. It's clear they want to dip both feet into the MMO market and they are using The Sims 4 to fund it. So instead of getting investor money to make a sequel which would actually satisfy their dedicated fan base (because screw us I guess), they're convincing investors that Project Rene will be the next best thing to attract a new audience, and they will keep The Sims 4 alive because of how profitable it's been for a decade. Sometimes I wish I was naive enough to not read between the lines. 🤦🏻♀️
I’m putting all my eggs in the inzoi basket
Laura Miele said that they wanted to keep the sims 4 going for maybe 15 years. I'm not sure what happened over there that just made them give up on working on The Sims 5. But I seriously want them to reconsider.
Jake Solomon (known for the xcom series) recently created a new studio that Grant Rodriek (formerly known as simgurugrant and was also responsible for Rene) joined where they aim to create a new life sim game. And with unreal 5 offering so much potential for life sim games that we have seen with InZoi other developers could soon start to work on life sim games.
Meanwhile EA are going to try and appeal to the mobile market with Rene which is a completely different market.
I would not be surprised if they are going to fall back to the sims4, investors are gonna wonder what on earth they are doing (because they can't grow the market much more with the sims4) and HOPEFULLY they will see reason by then, but I would definitely prefer for them to realize this themselves sooner.
I wonder if that's why Sim Guru Grant left to create another life sim - because he found out The Sims 5 would never happen. Keeping a poor performing game alive for another decade on top of making a single player experience a multi-player one are incredibly poor decisions across the board. Whoever is greenlighting these things is completely out of touch and we are witnessing the crash and burn of the franchise in real time.
@@SyntheticGoth Couldn't agree more. He most likely did not see anything good coming from Rene and did not get leadership to greenlight The Sims 5 either.
Watch in 5 years someone from EA will say that they meant 15 more years instead of 15 total.
Will you Flirt and woohoo with actual strangers in a multi player version of sims? That in itself sounds horrendous. This is a very bad idea.
Tbh I don't mind not having a color wheel, but I get why people want it.
I dont either but I think what is the most aggregious is the swatches they did come out with are all the same. Nothing fun. Nothing new. 10 years and that's all they came up with ? Ew.
Yeah I don’t give a crap about the color wheel, that being said the fact we lost features between sims 3 and 4 instead of gaining features says a lot about how Sims 4 is still playing catch up
What EA could've done is they could've hired the former team that did Life by You and they could've bought the rights to the unreleased game and they could've added a few unique Sims things and they could've released that as Sims 5. After all, Life by You did have Sims 3 vibes and it did have the former leader of Maxis in charge of the team, it would've made quite a sizable profit in the long run, after all, Paradox wasn't going to release it, EA could've snatched it up.
I doubt Paradox would have sold EA the scrapped project. It belongs to Paradox not the development team. The team didn’t get to take the game/code with them.
They could, buit they won't, because that requires EA to a) spend money, and b) care enough about their products and not just their profits.
Spot on another good analogy is how it’s no
Different to dovetail games and trains sim world
The 19th century would be the 1800s... It would actually be super impressive if the Sims had been around THAT long! 😂
"You can't do cars without open world!" *Sims 2 and even Sims 1 as passenger.
Yeah, you can’t drive around town but you can iwn cars, you can work on cars, you can get in a car and drive off screen which is more immersive then teleporting into the abyss to go to work/school. Cars actually help closed world games tbh because your sims drove off they didn’t just magically disappear and reappear.
I never understood that argument it's so stupid especially cause the walkable neighbourhoods are a lot bigger in Sims 4 Vs Sims 2 like it's actually annoying when you're in a community lot and it takes forever for your sim to walk into the loading screen
every decision ea has made about sims in the last 10 years has been made based off of how they can make the most money with the least amount of effort. if project renee sucks ass i sincerely hope nobody buys it. there is serious power in consumers decisions that we forget about.
Honestly I'm cautiously optimistic. Sims 4 clearly needs a lot of love and attention to get it up to snuff, but I don't think it's unfeasible; game's not nearly as fundamentally broken as the Sims 3 was in it's final days. That engine was literally on fire, and not in a good way.
Obviously the Sims 4 hasn't been getting the attention it needs, but presumably that's because they were working under the assumption that it's gonna be replaced anyway. With them abandoning any and all plans of a sequel and fully recommitting on the current game, it makes it at least plausible that they're gonna dump some of the considerable budget that would have gone into the Sims 5 into the Sims 4 instead. And the latest patch wasn't that bad of a start. Had fully given up on them ever fixing some of those bugs, but they actually did.
If they not only keep that up but double down on it, I'd consider that a win. Already spent an ungodly amount of money on that game, so I wouldn't mind getting some (more) value out it. Wasn't looking forward to buying weather effects for the fifth time.
i mean what I wanted was them to take the feedback and put weather, pets, ownable cars, and open world as base game and retain all the life stages currently in Sims 4. They get to decide what a base game is and for the first time in the entire series lots of things could have been included at the start. We would only have to pay for those things “again” if Maxis decides to do it for the FIFTH time and doesn’t change at all. What Sims 5 was is the potential to change, to compete with games that are promising at least limited weather and a selection of pets and such at launch. They do not have to make weather and pets packs, they do not have to pack-lock cuddling in bed!!! Weather was suppose to be in base game Sims 2, it just litterally didn’t work yet so it became a pack and unfortunately that led to weather ALWAYS being packaged separately, but it doesn’t have to be. There was zero reason for it to be a pack in Sims 3 and 4 except the choice to hold it back and deliver it as add-in content.
As far as I am concerned, they can sell holidays and experiences as a pack, that’s fine. Just not weather. And I know most people would hate it since Sims 4 has gone free to play (and now there is probably no going back), but just charge for the game again! Free-to-play just means I’m gonna get you to pay-to-play ANOTHER way.
Sims Mobile is a failure in and of itself, much like the two previous times EA has tried to cram multiplayer down the throat of this community. Sims Mobile was released March 6, 2018. EA announced they would no longer be doing updates for Sims Mobile on Jan 29,2024.
My theory is they stopped bothering with Sims Mobile with Project Rene being a Sims Mobile replacement. If this turns out to be the case, good luck to anybody trying to play it. If Project Rene is being built on the Sims Mobile frame, it is going to be stupid expensive and full of bugs. The last time I did the math for a single Sims Mobile "campaign", it was over $80.00.
Can’t wait for the Sim4 Special edition and Sims4 Aniiversary edition 💀💀
Time to enter Skyrim territory
The Sims Medieval was one of my favorite spin of games! I’d be open for another one of those!!
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if the Sims 4 turns into a subscription base game…
I have stopped buying any of the expansions because they keep breaking my game. They need to do a mass fix before adding more to the Sims 4.
19th century lol 😂 during the Wild West saw a few sims releases. Billy the kid a avid sims player lol
My tinfoil hat theory is that Project Renee was supposed to be the Sims 5, but it was testing poorly due to some bad gameplay decisions (apartments, multiplayer, etc.) So instead of creating the EA version of the LBY debacle, EA decided to pivot, making Project Renee its own thing and keeping Sims 4 around until they have a game that can justify replacing Sims 4. It explains why some gurus got canned around the time EA started explicitly stating Project Rene isn’t Sims 5.
Get Will Wright back on the job. He’s fix it
Project Rene was 100% supposed to be The Sims 5, EA realized they wouldn't be able to launch it in a half-decent (much less half-finished) state within the next few years so they decided to double down on their existing game by trying to attach the unrefined remnants of TS5 onto TS4. Gaslighting doesn't change the fact they did something SIMilar to Project Olympus when the SimCity fiasco happened, when they learned people then weren't gonna buy what they were making. And so The Sims 4 happened as a result.
My theory for project renee is that it will kinda of be a remastered sims 4 with the new features and the sims 4 assets will be backwards compatible.
i’m ready to move on from the sims franchise. EA is making it clear they are never going to return to the charm of sims 2 and 3. i’m so ready to see what other developers create so we can finally experience the future of life sim games without blatant money grabs!!
19th century is 1800's satch! :')
Even though simmers want these three tiny features, these are three features from a previous iteration game. So it's not even like we're asking for new or extra stuff. We're just asking for stuff that we used to have in an OLDER game. 😂 Nope, can't be bothered
I haven’t played with my Sims since I started playing other games like "Crime Scene Cleaner" and "House Flipper". If you love the interior design aspect of the Sims, you’ll love "House Flipper".
i dont understand it from a bussiness perspective, people moved on from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and bought all the packs time and time again. Then you get the sims 4 and the game is bad, thats why people havent moved on, if theyre still willing to pay hundreds for upcoming packs they would also move on to the sims 5 and then purchase the packs. Only thing is that it should not be worse than sims 4
It makes perfect sense for a business perspective. Sell nothing for the cost of everything, and put no money into your business so you can line your own pockets. That's business. Releasing a Sims 5 means putting resources into making something that is going to convince people that it's worth buying. It's a risk. Releasing 3 more beds and some mods and charging $50 for it is safer because the people playing the game live in the sunken cost fallacy. It's why Hollywood is latching onto IPs instead of telling new stories: new stories are a risk, while sequels and remakes (even with diminishing returns) are safe and easy to make.
Satch my sweet summer child when they're talking about shared assets they aren't talking about you having pack they are most probably talking about using the sims 4 as a base for it like how they did with the sims mobile so if this project Renee is going to be its own separate thing and not an addon for TS4 you won't be able to use the packs you already own in TS4
The sims 4 colours system isn't just primitive compared to the sims 3, it's primitive compared to the sims 2!!! In Sims 2 at least items had two parts to choose the colour of, so if you wanted a certain colour of wood to match your kid's bedroom you weren't stuck with the ugliest bedding pattern, or by picking a nice bedding pattern you're weren't forced to use a wood that doesn't match!
It's crazy still seeing companies get complacent in this unpredictable ass consumer market. Blockbuster thought it was untouchable at one point lol. Nobody learns.
The fact they still have investor days ... who tf burns their money for this lazy crap company? Are there still investors left not learning from the Ubisoft debacle? It's insane to image there are people willing to give EA millions of their dollars to produce nothing but shit.
Sounds like they’re just making it up as they go along
I wish I could carry a pocket sized Satch in my pocket so he can review all my life decisions in this manner.
He’d be like: “I think that’s a terrible decision, yes I do yes I *do* “
History repeat itself... as happened with The Sims 4 being recycled from the disaster of SimCity... maybe The Sims 5 will be a recycled product from Project Renee if it does not work
Yes it would be too much to ask simmers to start over investing time and money into a brand new game. Instead, because yk they care, they only ask you to continue investing even more time and money into dlc for a game that no longer, if ever, functions as intended because of the amount of dlc added to its poorly built foundation.
bring back quality gameplay and depth, with packs that actually bring tons of assets, like sims 2 and 3. i love the way 4 looks, but i dont want multiplayer, incentive-based play or subscription. let me be a loner.
I also think you can do open world nowadays a lot better then when Sims 3 came out. Like if Ellen Ring now exists, we can do open world Sims.
I stop playing sims 4, 2 years ago, since none of the pack ( that cost a kidney for like 12 things that aren’t playable with 1-4 figure that doesn’t work ) properly work… I’m so sad I loved the game but it’s ain’t possible to play a game that can’t be properly run and you risk to loose everything every update … on top of it they made it almost impossible to play the sims 1-2-3 unless you find a cd copie ..
Was was looking at the store yesterday (since stuff is still on sale). Even after buying a handful of expansions and packs, and even with 30-50% off on almost everything, Steam still says I can add everything to my cart for over $1200.
There is a nice guide on steam how you can Play the sims 3 really really good and i love it but where you get i there is something called steam rip 🤐
My theory... Project Rene is a big overhaul for The Sims 4ever. But my expectation is kinda low already lol.
The perfect sims would be, sims 2 details, sims 3 open world and sims 4 animations and fluidity
The wonky table analogy is so real too because they keep adding all the packs (cake) and trying to even out the table legs with sugar packets 😂 (the patches)
The Sims 4 anniversary passed so unnoticed that it makes me uneasy.
EA: Ever Antiquated. Or EA: Executive Apathy.
This is a clear example of management having no idea what products their company sells. They are there to line their own pockets, not make games. They don't know what their games are, they don't know what game development is, they don't know what reality is, and they don't know nor care what customers want. They don't understand why Sims 4 is lacking and why they can't just keep selling $50 game assets. They don't understand that they need to change the underlying infrastructure of the game in order to push an open world. They don't understand that a colour wheel makes people happy because it lets them be more creative. All they see is a powerpoint presentation about the colour update that says "new features."
I'm so excited that we live in a world where single person developers can make whole games and small companies that make games that threated bloated companies like EA. The very concept of capitalism is at play here, and if the company doesn't do something, they will lose.