Ather Electric Scooter - Evolution from prototype to final vehicle!
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2018
- Here is a fun video of all our test rides - right from our first prototype to the final vehicle. Launch is round the corner #TestRideEvolution #Ather
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Common guys we need to encourage indian products. Way to go .
Thanks Saikrishna!
Congrats !!! I am watching you people grow from bottom up, looks great now :) Waiting to own the First one, even though i don't drive 2 Wheeler. I WANT TO BE FIRST TO BUY. I am following you since 2016 :)
Thanks for the love and support, Shiv! :)
Thank you for making this video.Ive been following you guys from the start.
Excellent job team Ather. Congratulations.
thanks tushar!
Just amazed to see the journey of idea to product .. Just can't wait to test drive it
hey amit, if you're from Bengaluru, test ride bookings open on June 5th. Check out our website then - atherenergy.com
Good work guys , i feel very proud.
Amazing journey 😍
Honestly speaking, this needs to be your tv ad!
Eagerly waiting for the launch
Super design 🤩🤩
Looking very attractive 😍😍
And stylish 😘😘
I like this ather electric scooter
Waiting for this vehicle
It can give competition to okinawa electric scooter
Good luck ATHER ENERGY
👍👍👌👌
Love you ather the comfort begins from ather
Awesome ;)
excellent👍👍👍
Congratulations!!! You came along way from concept to production ready electric smart scooter. I see vehicle has been registered by RTO(KA 01 TC 0523). Eagerly waiting for the launch.......
Inteligent 😍❤
Very cute
it seems very agile 🙌
I am actually more impressed by your idea and implementation of Grid than your scooter. Of course your scooter has the best spec among e-Scootes, but that would probably come with a hefty pricetag. But, your network of chargers is really commendable and first of its type in India. I hope you expand it in other cities as well and soon others follow the suit. Without a grid of chargers EV revolution will never happen.
Thank you.
All the best guys.. Hope it'll soon available in Kerala.
Kerala isn't to far away from Karnataka :) Express pre-order interest on our website to stay updated on our plans for Kerala!
And today we stand strong with Ather 450x Gen 3.1 😮💨🔥
All the best guys
Made in india made for india
Right time for launch🤗
Thanks for your wishes Nidhin! :)
Badhia hai
Now i know why ather is better than others. It is the dad of smart ev.
Proud of ather, made in India, made for India
It was a very clever idea to embed charger inside the chesy. This would definitely help as show owners / malls can povide charging spot for the scooter. All they need to do is setup a sub meter to calculate electricity consumed.
That was the intent ;) On top of that, the vehicle is smart enough to calculate the total electricity consumed, hence eventually the need for a sub-meter is not present.
@@AtherEnergyElectric lmao still finding that smart thing in 450x gen 3
This is awesome. It looks nothing like those cheap Chinese made scooters. Well done! Do you guys plan to introduce it in Malaysia? How much is the selling price in India?
Donker Yankervoot it's price is depending on model
Starting at a price tag of 1.25 lakhs.. overall maintenance is cheap.
We will first be expanding to more cities in India, before exploring international markets. The price for the 340 is INR 109k and for the 450 is 124k in India.
This is amazing! Where can I test ride it in Pune? Do let me know... will review it as well :-)
Pune is still some time away. Stop by at AtherSpace next time you are in B'lore! :)
Ather Energy sure thing
Does it have swappable battery? How to charge in apartments with no electical outlet in basement?
hey shashi, our scooter will come with a home charger. We'll help with the standard installation process. Also, the government of Karnataka is soon going to make it mandatory to have power points in parking areas of high rise apartments. That won't be a deterrent then :)
2013 ki kitne ki hai
Cost wise its very costly the price could have brought down by doing what is required for example with a range of 60 km where will you use the navigation and the touch screen doesn’t make sense
Sir market m kab lunch kar rahe ho
on June 5th in Bengaluru.
Wish to be a part of ather.
Why don't you check out open positions at jobs.atherenergy.com? Maybe you'll find a suitable fit!
Ather Energy I am a fresh grad, B.tech ME degree holder. There is no openings for freshers, But I registered my resume.
What is it's price? In North Bengal when it comes available?
jayantaroy85 s450 is 1.24lakh
We've opened pre-orders for Bengaluru first, other cities will soon follow. You can express pre-order interest on our website to stay updated on when we come to Bengal :)
You have to increase the milege upto 200+ km than only people would buy it
a scooter with that kind of range would be extremely heavy to even be rideable! :)
Common, atleast make some sense.
When we buy in madhya pradesh
We've started pre-orders in Bengaluru and will start soon in other cities, MP will be still some time away, but we'll get there :)
Today in india nothing is about 1st and 2nd or last people here prefer the best
E vehicle always are good option. But what about pick up.
The 450 accelerates from 0 to 40 km/h in 3.9sec. That's enough to put 125cc scooters to shame!
Dear friend, someone told me that the Ather company recommends that owners have to charge it almost daily, even if you are driving only 15 or 20 km daily or you are not using it.
So I want to confirm this, is this true ..?
No not true...
is it available in kolkata ??
Hey Saptarshi, we are starting with Bengaluru and will expand to other cities soon. You can express pre-order interest on our website atherenergy.com to stay updated on our plans to come to Kolkata!
Ather Energy but what about the services & the charging point?? I believe In Kolkata there is a huge customer who love to buy this little bird. Im love to buy but with out trail on depend in just shows all the videos i can't put on so much money on that.. plz come to city of joy Kolkata.. when i talk with peoples about e scooter or bike, they only say one thing "ye to kuch saal k baad dabba ho jayega" .. i believe ather will be change there mind setup..
We want to buy .How when where we purchase a and what about servicing, acceries.is it only available in Bangalore????.......
Hey vinay, we are launching on 5th June and taking pre-orders from the same day. We'll announce price during launch. The first batch of scooters will be reserved for those who are part of our 'pre-order interest' list. You can add yourself to this list by visiting our website.
About servicing, we will offer doorstep servicing if you face any issues.
Ather Energy
It is launching in bangalore or in other states also
AFAIK, Electric Scooters do not require a number plate then why does this have one?
Hey Vishal, the electric scooters which are currently being ridden in the market have a very low power rating of 250-300 W, and these don't require a license. Ours will need a license as it's comparable to any scooter in the 110-125 cc bracket in terms of power.
Ather Energy ah 👍🏻 The launch is on the 5th of June right?
yes! save the date :)
I appreciate someone took steps to develop .But there are gaps which should not be there after years of product development.Why do you need so big disc brakes .It essentially shows regenerative braking is not good enough .Employing belt means looses during transmission and maintenance of belt .Also even for limited regenration that is employed there is a loss owing to belt .If it would have been hub mounted motor or rigidly coupled with axle losses would be lesser .If two motors could have been employed knee for each wheel it would have helped immensley in keeping the scooter upright by modulation torque and power on each wheels .In a country like India panels could have been embedded with solar cells to take care of charge itself .Employing such a energy intensive display again points to flashiness .May be eink based display would have helped to conserve energy .A range enough for a weeks riding should have been targeted i.e about 200 to 300kms to make cahrge and forget type . Its a good product but is it a leader in today's tech world .Definitely not .Hope the next iteration is much accomplished .
Slow down there, buddy! Let's answer your questions one by one.
1. Disc brakes provide a precise and consistent feedback, not just more stopping power.
2. Regenerative braking, though present, cannot replace brakes as it works only when the scooter has some momentum, that too only at one wheel.
3. The toothed carbon belts that we use are far more efficient than the friction based belts used by industrial machinery. Our overall transmission efficiency is much higher than 90%.
4. Hub-motors in a 12-inch size, simply cannot match the performance that is present in our vehicles, and hence it was a no-brainer. Also, with hub motors, the unsprung mass was much higher, and so was the rolling inertia. Thereby compromising the ride quality severely.
5. A front motor for two-wheelers is not only risky but also comes with its own set of challenges as the front wheel is mounted on a headstock. The balance of the 450 and 340 is perfect owing to zero lateral off-set and low center of gravity, keeping the scooter upright is not a challenge.
6. Embedding solar panels might seem like a great idea, but lacks a real use case. The aesthetics of the scooters get severely impacted, the added weight of the panels negate the energy they produce, and they simply increase the cost without adding real functionality. It's always better to install a stationary solar panel at the parking location instead.
7. Our display uses less than 0.1% if the total power, hence, removing it will not have a considerable impact on the range or performance. Plus, an e-ink display's response time isn't quick enough to use navigation properly.
8. A range enough for weeks? The scooter can charge at home every night, or even at your office. Putting a week's worth of batteries will increase the cost to 3x and the weight by 2x. Are you even ok with that for your phone? Let alone a scooter?
Hi ,
Appreciate someone is reading .
1.) In industry with huge loads we have tolerance of as good as 0.05% ( With encoders this can be surpassed) in terms of precision with VFDs in applications like mine hoist , kilns etc .For faster de-accerlation you need to use super capacitor as battery wont use the regeneration fast enough .Disc brakes are an age old way of wasting energy .And even if you cannot implement super capacitor instead of disc brakes what about brake choppers .
2a.) Regenerative braking works flawlessly even for load in 100s of tons in various industry verticals . The point which does need to be worked on is what capacity i.e how sooner you would like the bike/scooter to stop form peak speed/load . This would entail design of converter / motor . And yes i am am sure companies like NIDEC , ANSALDO , ABB can help you achieve it to precision you want . Regenerative braking even with one wheel is possible definitely .In case you disagree please i would be glad to know why not.
2b.) Even without momentum braking is possible using converter . It is done in lifts , hoists etc . However yes it will mean energy wastage in a mobile platform . For same electrical actuation may be used to lock rotor/motor driving the wheel rather than wear and tear items like brakes .
3.) Toothed carbon belt is stll prone to dust , mud i believe and life automatically gets affected by same . Even in industry rigid coupled is inherently more efficient than flexible coupled / Even a 5% gap mean range increases by 5kms and ability to use regeneration to full potential with no fear of slipage or tooth breakage .
4.) I agree to your point in limited wheel size it is a challenge with hub motors.
5.) A front motor along with a rear motor will help in situation where scooter / bike slides out as based on lean angles , centre of gravity power modulation can be done automatically . It is not just about keep scooter 90degree to the ground .It is about making the safety envelope bigger . How many scooters falls on wet roads , road which is covered with gravel etc .Even in your current set up i see no mention of ability of vehicle to stay upright in case of wheel loss of traction on front or rear end . This could have been achieved using existing hardware it seems .But then again slight crispness loss of throttle due to belt wil make it a bit of a hit and miss .
6.) Oh yes i whole hardheartedly agree they might look shabby or i would say heavy enough to restrict design , It is a thought as having this would mean two tier and three tier market opportunities .Atleast an option for rural folks a Ather designed Solar Charging setup .
7.) I agree with the slow response of eink . I guess .1% is good enough :) . Hope it doesnt idle much in traffic though .What about auto display off .
8.) For me i really am not into two wheels .However if i do buy two wheels i dont want to be plugging it everyday . How many of Indians have a charging bay at home dedicated to them with most living in apartments etc .Bonus I am sure we all miss Nokia and blackberry which worked for a week .
So question is not if i am ok but are you able to offer that what phone cant . Today's phone (include mine ) can be charged conveniently with wireless charging and portable battery but scooter cant and being in mobility i see it is of critical importance .
Also real world scenario Rohini to Gurgaon in Delhi is nearly 100kms ride to and fro .
A person in sales who would be riding it would need minium 150kms in a city like delhi .
And with luggage Ather range will go lower.
With this range real world usage will be limited to those who either ride to nearby markets , or have work in limited geographical boundaries .
I guess this market is large enough hence this product is designed for approx 100kms under best case .
All the best to you guys . :)
We hear you. :)
Most analogies that you have given are valid. However, given they work in the industry, (where the weight, maintenance and cost are not as important) doesn't mean the same can be implemented in consumer vehicles directly.
As for the range, most of our users are going to be urban commuters, and hence the vehicle is designed to meet their requirements. Had we been making a delivery vehicle, the design would've been dramatically different. One size 'doesn't' fit all in this case. :)
The 450 and the 340 are designed to be intracity vehicles and not inter-city commuters. That said, we have installed AtherGrid across Bengaluru and will continue to do the same in every city we launch in. That should curb any remaining range anxiety a user has. The AtherGrid charges our vehicles at 1km/min. Hence a 30 min charge should allow anyone to extend range by 30 minutes, and that is on top of the existing TrueRange of 75km on a full charge! :)
6 years for a bike then just think how much time they will took if its a car ..............🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
ANIL VLOGS it's a smart scooter not simple e scooter.
Drive By Wire haha nothing smart is there already there are many smart so called scooter in market just check out
ANIL VLOGS this is the first smart scooter and 2nd Electric scooter which runs top speed 75kmph in Indian market.... They start from 0. And now they reached thier target.. I don't know which market you are talking about. I think you are not from India.
Drive By Wire I am from India first learn about electric scooter first its not speed it must pull atleat two people and the battery is important any scooter can go fast and at same time it also drain the battery fast
ANIL VLOGS I agree about it. I have good knowledge in electrical industry. And what you expect range and speed that is very expansive to adopt and maintain.
I am not happy with range top Speed is 72km/h . I was accepting 85km/h. advantage is storage space and battery management system.
Looks puny and cheap like Chinese 250w vehicle. I personally like something to look bulky like the conventional scooters yet light
You're probably getting that impression looking at our earlier prototypes. As we mentioned, ours is more than 20 times as powerful as a 250 W scooter. We've uploaded a teaser on our channel announcing the launch date. You may want to check that out :)
6 years but mileage still not reliable hahahahahahahahaha