@@eliegbert8121, broadly speaking there are 6 liturgical rites used by the 24 Sui Iuris churches. Just over half of the churches use the Byzantine Rite (I think it's 13 or 14).
Exactly, there are 24 Sui Iuris bodies that make up the one Catholic Church. The Latin Church is the one and only Western Church while the other 23 are labeled as eastern. The rite in the western church is the Roman rite, while there have been many others over the years such as mozarabic or ambrosian, unfortunately they are no longer in widespread use and for all intensive purposes to be considered dead. Within the eastern catholic churches there exists the Alexandria Rite, The Byzantine Rite, the Armenian Rite, the East Syriac Rite, and the West Syriac Rite. The byzantine is by far the largest and most common globally.
@@caseycardenas1668 and of course, the Orthodox claim to be the One Catholic Apostolic church also (and have a better claim imo but I'm biased personally), and we also have both Latin rite and Byzantine rite churches in communion with each other👍
@@highviewbarbell that's not entirely true. All the churches that utilize a Western Rite primarily belong to the archdiocese of Antioch and simply perform Western Rite Liturgies that are often heavily easternized. In other words it's just an Eastern church belonging to an eastern patriarch that has a western coat of paint. There isn't a western church proper in orthodoxy. It's not quite the same as the setup as you see in the Papal Catholic Church. Western Rite Orthodoxy is extremely small, like EXTREMELY small. I won't partake in any debates because the matter is extremely nuanced but on paper the Catholic Church has done better when incorporating the non western ancient rites and bringing them under one umbrella than either the EO or the OO have.
@@caseycardenas1668 well, i mean, it's precisely the "umbrella" that's the problem :D although yes it is extremely nuanced. Please try not to lump us in with OO at least if possible, they're non-chalcedonian and broke away from the Church like 600 years before the big one in 1054 (really it was more like 1204)
I am a Catholic and speaking from personal experience. I lived in Eastern Oregon near Idaho Nevada border. Probably one of the least populated places in the whole country and I can tell you there is a Catholic Church in every little town. 100 people on up basically, so that map is not very indicative of the actual amount of churches. I would assume dramatically dwarfs basically every denomination in the US. Every place you go there is generally a Catholic Church which is nice, you will never have to miss mass.
@@derek4412 possibly true. This has happened many times throughout church history so I don’t really think much of it. I wouldn’t call 1990 the high point of Catholicism. It is still alive and well throughout the world.
The reason for the Polish churches being in Chicago is due to Chicago having the biggest Polish population outside of Poland. We have so many in fact that we have a holiday called Casimir Pulaski (Famous Polish cavalry officer who trained American soldiers in the revolutionary war) day which is really only celebrated in Chicagoland.
Really, the Poles were all over the steel belt. Every nationality tended toward a given industry (Swedish lumber, German farms, Irish factories, Polish mines, etc.) Those were just the jobs the communities were more used to, and people wanted to live with their countrymen. My area is former coal territory, and Pollocks are all over the place.
Not surprised at the concentration of Slavic Baptist churches in the PNW. Lots of Soviet expats landed there when the USSR broke up. I went to school with a lot of Soviet kids.
Hi Josua, most of the churches in WV are rural independent baptist/holiness churches that have been isolated for some time. Hence the failure for big denominations to Penetrate into WV
In the tiny town that I'm from there's one Baptist church and one Methodist church. My family were coal miners who came from Cornwall (UK) and the Cornish miners were pretty much all Methodist. Other denominations are very thin on the ground, for example Catholic and Presbyterian churches are few and far between.
Polish National Catholic Church distribution follows Polish immigration into mining and industrial areas, hence, Great Lakes, Northeast, and Upper Midwest.
Very interesting. It would be helpful to have a heat map of the general population and one of the Christian population just to get a sense of when a particular denomination is just reflected in the population and when it is really 'bucking the trend' geographically.
As a native of WV, most people would attend a Baptist (Independant, Southern, Freewill), United Methodist and Presbyterian church. Northern WV would have a higher percentage of Catholic churches than the Southern part. Throughout the state you would have Churches of Christ and Independant Holiness based churches. In the Charleston (state capital), there is a large concentration of Church of the Nazarene/Church of God - Anderson/Wesleyan Churches.
FSSP (Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri) is the latin acronymn. PFSP (Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter) is the english acronymn. Same organization, though PFSP is used more often than FSSP since SSPX is also called FSSPX.
@@Adam-fj9px, ditto. I've never heard an FSSP parish referred to via anything else. SSPX I've seen both ways, but never for FSSP. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but not in my experience.
@@Adam-fj9pxFSSP is used as the initials of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. SSPX is generally used as the initials in English for the Society of St. Pius X, which includes the FSSPX (Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X) as canonically founded by +Lefebvre, the Sisters, the Brothers, and other affiliates that work with them.
The SSPX and FSSP really is an interesting subject to me as a protestant, namely as a Lutheran who also has a close relationship with the ACNA. Also, so not shocked that Polish Catholic Church has churches near Chicago
@@kennethbergstrom3383 The SSPX is not in schism. They are in a "Canonically Irregular" situation, but any Catholic fulfils his Sunday obligation by attending Mass at one of their chapels.
Makes me sad. Wyoming had several Latin Masses until the bishop shut them down. This is happening all over the US. I wonder why you didn't show all Catholic parishes. They are very easy to find no matter where you are. I don't think I'm ever further than a half hour from a parish, though I will drive hours to make it to a Latin Mass when I'm traveling.
Interesting video, thanks. Will there be a part 2? I noticed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was not included. They have denominations in every state. It would be interesting to see that map.
@@elijahfoster2Trinitarianism being the litmus test for Christianity is so arbitrary lol. This would also exclude the historically significant unitarians.
Yes. At the end of this video, he says there will be a part 2, and among the ones included will be non-Trinitarians. Looking through the comments, he says it will include The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. While he might not personally think Latter-day Saints to be Christian, he seems to always take a scholarly approach. He has a video where he discusses what people mean when they say "Christian" and talks about Latter-day Saints in that context. I feel like he does talk about it often in his videos, especially this type, where he talks about many types of churches. And even when he doesn't, he talks about other non-Trinitarian churches, so I doubt that is the reason it is sometimes not included.
Fun fact there are ordinariate priests outside of just that map. The Catholic Church in hillsdale michigan tor example has an ordinariate priest with a wife and 4 kids
Few and far between unfortunately. I have the location of every Byzantine Catholic Church on the east coast that belongs to the Eparchy of Passaic. It's under 100 parishes and many of them are very small. The Byzantine Catholic Church in the United States a.k.a the Ruthenian Greek Catholic Church is made up of 4 Eparchies. Parma, Passaic, Phoenix, Pittsburgh. There's approximately 215 Parishes in the United States give or take.
@@caseycardenas1668There's a lot of variety, I guess. I count 9 different Eastern parishes just within the geographic boundaries of the Latin Diocese of San Diego.
@@jdotoz you also have to take into the account the vastness of the United States as well. A majority of people do not live within even 2 hours of an eastern Catholic parish. The Byzantine Ruthenian Church in America is the largest byzantine rite church in the states. The Chaldean Catholic Church is actually the largest Eastern church in the United States but that is in terms of parishioners. Geographically, it is very concentrated and not widespread. God willing, they will grow and more will come from orthodoxy into communion through the ECC. Many of the top Catholic apologist are also parishioners of Eastern Churches, specifically Byzantine so that also raises people's interests as well.
@@caseycardenas1668 I imagine that this is because historically, the Eastern churches were more ethnically or nationally defined than the Latin church, so outside of the original countries where they started the Eastern churches need to concentrate where their specific populations are.
@@jdotoz to an extent, people tend to forget that the Latin Church of yesteryear was also very ethnic. This can be observed when you see certain churches in certain communities have parishes named after a saint from their churches ethnic region. When mass immigration was common around the turn of the 19th century and before even, ethnic Latin Churches were very common. Polish, Irish, Italian, Spanish just to name a few. It just so happens that Latin Christianity was predominant in many of the societies in the old world from which came many migrants. Eastern Christians while often using geographic based naming conventions, are for all intensive purposes regardless of ethnicity, Greek Catholic in the same way that a Frenchman or a Spaniard is a Latin Catholic. The reformation was also derived from Western Christian practice so much of that would have also looked familiar and here in the states the western flair was what reigned supreme simply because it was the most common. For centuries, eastern catholic churches were suppressed and heavily latinized which was a real shame and a disservice to Christendom. Because of this, the eastern heritage within Catholicism itself could not genuinely thrive. Obviously things have changed but the effects of this can be seen to this day.
Would be cool if more of these maps showed the membership at each denomination. Lots of churches have a bunch of "legacy" parishes with less than 100 members just running on endowment money
Churches are declining indeed elsewhere in the developed world. Tons of "legacy" Parishes elsewhere. My own rural area Roman Catholic one here in Portugal is one of those. Hardly an ASA of more than 150 spread for 5 locations, mostly on their 70+. It will likely to be finished by 2040, if not earlier.
Ok, so, about the "Reverent" ones. Within the Catholic Church there is Novus Ordo Missae and Reverent N.O, which comprise most of the Catholic Masses worldwide. Novus Ordo as we know in the US is generally seen as more laxed, open, not as Liturgical, while Reverent is the opposite. They retain the Latin language, Hymns, chants, and Altar Rails, utilized in the Roman Missal of 1962, along with Ad Orientem in some cases. This is the most basic explanation i can give, but if you wish, i can give more through research. Hope this helps!
Ok, thanks to the great work. In summary: Liberal Churches would flock more to the blue states, while conservative ones would flock to the red ones. The Catholics are elsewhere, and the rad trad Catholics, while predominantly to the rural areas seem to flourish elsewhere as well.
Blue states have just as many Catholics because of the latino population, the north has alot of polish, irish, italian american people that are still catholic
@@firstlast-pq1tx True! And from my own Portugal as well on the blue states. But the reverent or Tridentine Latin Mass Catholic maps do deserve another more in depth view, perhaps deserving a video up only for them all. It seems clear that those more conservative outfits are not growing on the mainline red or mainline blue states or regions. They're growing towards secondary urban or full rural areas, with a possible inroad the main locations for a special purpose. It is such a different sort of phenomenon now going on. A few days ago there was an Eucharistic procession in NYC with some 4000+ in NYC from the most conservative Catholic fringes. One could argue: That's nothing in such a huge dozens of millions people city... But, surprisingly, even for me, they attracted a quite good share of very young individuals. Would to be interesting to know from where they were: The main city? The secondary places? People from all over the place? Catholic extreme conservatism seems a phenomena for us to stay attentive in the next years to come.
15:20 Always cool to see the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter recognized. My grandfather was a founding member, married Episcopalian priest who became a married Catholic priest.
10:33 pYup they are everywhere here in western Ky. I pastor a sbc church that leans reformed and we have lots of other Baptists. It makes ministry difficult honestly
There are technically no SSPX parishes anywhere. They have chapels that provide services to the public, but the laity who attend there remain under the jurisdiction of the local ordinary. The priests of the Society are not properly incardinated in a diocese or a religious institute in full communion with Rome. They exercise no canonical functions within the Church.
@CatholicTraditional Which is not independence. What would the Society do if a local ordinary told them to stop being open to the public in his diocese?
@@jdotoz As far as I know, no bishop has ever shut down an SSPX chapel. Some (even Trad friendly ones) have advised not to go Mass there. The Society generally owns their own real estate or leases for their locations, so it would still be tough for a diocese to evict them.
Where are the Lutheran denominations in America located--especially the Evangelical Lutheran of America of which I'm a part of? Please let me know-thanx 😊
There is a reason why the Hutterites look like they are spreading to Canada. They had originally settled in the USA, but due to the draft policy of the American government, they fled the USA to Canada where they were not forced to serve in the army, but could opt for the ambulance brigade. Please correct me if I am wrong on this account.
@@ReadyToHarvest wow, thanks for a quick response. I found a map of all the buildings in the US within two minutes. I’m not trying to be difficult and I appreciate your effort and video. Keep them coming. 😀
Most reformed Baptist churches are independent. For instance the largest church in my area by a huge margin is an independent reformed Baptist multi-campus church.
Now, if we actually looked at those so-called Christian denominations that actually followed the teachings of Jesus, there would be very few marks on the map!
Very interesting to see the different concentrations of denominations. I wouldn't have have imagined that some of the churches would be so concentrated in such a small area. Something else that I noticed but not surprised by was the more liberal baptists were only found in major cities.
For the Catholic breakdowns... FSSP (as well as ICKSP and many Diocesan priests as well) are approved parishes for the Tridentine Mass (aka Traditional Latin Mass or TLM). SSPX (actually FSSPX, an acronym that like FSSP is based on the official Latin name) is generally unapproved. The main difference is Sedevacantism-- basically a large number of SSPX quietly or sometimes openly hold that there is no Pope due to their view that a Pope past or present is a heretic. Thus they're generally considered schismatic. Popes JPII and BXVI helped normalize relations and seemingly encouraged TLM's to form. Pope Francis is nowhere near as welcoming of conservative Roman Catholic voices. The Reverent Catholic Mass list generally includes the TLM parishes as well as Eastern Catholic options and select [tradition-focused and conservative] ordinary diocesan options providing the Novus Ordo. Basically it's the Novus Ordo from shortly after Vatican II, with the bishops and individual priests remaining much more traditional and conservative. Eastern Catholic churches are generally Byzantine, East Syriac, West Syriac, or Armenian Rite. Basically components of each Eastern Orthodox Church that is (currently) in full communion with Rome. These Eastern Catholics often have churches in communities with higher immigration rates. The mass isn't generally presented in Latin, instead favoring regional languages. That's not the extent either. Some bishops allow and encourage diocesan TLM's. The majority of American bishops did little or nothing in response to Traditionis Custodes (a letter/directive from Pope Francis to suppress diocesan TLM's). A handful of bishops used it to cancel most or all once-approved TLM's in their diocese (sometimes including FSSP or ICKSP parishes even and leading many of those to the SSPX). Others used it to rearrange the structure, removing the TLM from split-worship churches (celebrating both NO and TLM) and instead putting together new TLM-only churches. Some others require that TLM diocesan churches celebrate the Novus Ordo one weekend a month. But the vast majority of American bishops made no noticeable changes whatsoever, basically disregarding the entire letter in light of their personal faith and the faith of their parishioners (and some community pressure).
I am not a sedevacantist, I have done research on them. Sedevacantists largely reject the election of St John XXIII ("Papa Buono") believing that Giuseppe (Cardinal) Siri was the one elected but was intimidated by those evil Soviets who forced the conclave's hand into choosing Angelo (Cardinal) Roncalli as the Holy Pontiff. Sedevacantists point to that decision as the moment in which started the fall of Catholicism in the West, often citing the permitting of "homosexual" priests into seminaries and high ecclesiastical positions started by Pope John's election. Probably the most prominent sedevacantist RUclipsr is Eclipse 1958 whose videos are a snapshot into a mind of a true sedevacantist (he not only denies the 1958 conclave but the one in 1903 that elected Pius X, the 1963 conclave that elected Paul VI and the 1978 conclaves that elected the two Popes John Paul).
@@mariosportsmaster7662 The sedevacantist stance doesn't make much sense to me. There have been downright evil popes in the past who have tried to corrupt the Church. Some succeeded for a time. Little beyond their names and crimes have stood the test of the centuries. I don't believe the RCC can be so easily cancelled. Do I find it a little suspicious that BXVI resigned? Yeah, a bit. Do I find it odd that Pope Francis hasn't taken a firmer hand on dealing with the clearest issues of morality? Definitely. I think the components of the RCC in Germany that have blessed homosexual couples should be sharply corrected by whatever means are necessary. I'm rather disturbed by some aspects of Pope Francis's papacy, and sincerely hope he finds and adheres to the truths that Christ gave us. I fear even that, as I think he'll be far more slippery.
@@mariosportsmaster7662This is the correct phenomenon of Sedevacantism: no Pope since Pius XII died in 1958. Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, SSPX founder, held the “recognize & resist” position, which included rightful disagreement with Paul VI altering the Mass and Sacraments (N.O.) while supporting his Humanae Vitae for upholding birth control ban. Ordered the use of the 1962 Missal in 1983 to kick the Sedes out of the order. Considering the funny business of Benedict XVI being removed in 2013 in favor of Francis, we might be in Sede 2.0, which is further complicating things as we speak.
Joshua, I haven't seen them in a while, but I the the U.S. Census Bureau has put out maps of the U.S. of people's self identified religious affiliation based on counties. Thet are pretty informative and you may find them interesting.
Why didn't you include the Seventh Day Baptists amoung the other Baptists? They're larger than some of the other Baptist groups you included and they don't give themselves obfuscatious names.
Thanks for another great video, Joshua! This got me thinking that it would be fascinating for you to compare how “ethnic” certain denominations still are! For example, I am Lutheran and I already know our map will be most heavily concentrated in the upper Midwest (especially the ELCA), since almost everyone I know who is Lutheran has some German or Scandinavian ancestry and that’s where most of them settled! Conversely, it seems like Presbyterianism has a bit less of an attachment to Americans of Scottish ancestry as those settlers became “assimilated” much earlier, and then you have American-made denominations like Pentecostalism that don’t have any ancestral component at all!
I definitely think the "ethnic" element matters more in the interior, smaller states, but less so when you get into bigger, coastal states. Like a Kansas or Nebraska, depending on who settled out there, their tradition is what pre-dominanted the area. If alot of Episcopalians settled in one area, you'll get a mass of Episcopalian churches, some RC churches, and maybe an SBC church or two; and that's probably it.
One thing to consider regarding "Reformed Baptist".....some of us identify as "Particular Baptist" and the "Reformed Baptist" groups may not recognize us as Reformed Baptists. The difference might be that Reformed Baptists follow covenant theology while Particular Baptists are dispensational, or there may be other differences. I am not dispensational and I believe in the doctrines of grace (TULIP), but I identify as Particular Baptist rather than Reformed Baptist.
14:30 I think it would be nice to start off with a population map, just so we can all keep that in mind as we look at maps like this. I am mostly suggesting this because I feel like you have a high level of precision and accuracy in your content overall and therefore feel you may actually appreciate the suggestion. Also I think we may look at maps again. Which I very much liked, I love maps.
Typically, every Roman Catholic Diocese has offers a Latin Mass somewhere. In My city, the 8am Sunday Mass at a downtown Parish is where it is held. While there may have been some initial excitement about the Latin Mass being offered, it really has not taken off. I have been to two Latin Masses as an adult and don’t care to go again as I don’t know Latin well and the congregations give off the vibe that they are are better than others. In addition, a they don’t allow girl alter servers and probably women readers either.
They claim huge growth... But it is not showing for real day people in the streets. TLM has become mostly such a digital social media thingy for some obscure political drives...
@@nunagoras - there has not been huge growth. They have not even taken over in the parishes where a Latin Mass is offered weekly. The other Masses in that Parish are in English.
Haven't made it to the end yet but after this additional layer of ground work it might be nice to do a regional video every now and again. Do like a 3-6 state deeper dive from time to time. I think it might be nice for people that are moving and help to give some regional historical cancer that doesn't fit in the broader vids.
Great work just getting into the meat and potatoes of the video right away! No longwinded introduction or immediate sponsorship, just getting right into the facts. I like it.
I never knew there were so many different kinds of Baptist churches. I’m Calvary Chapel, and I know there are a lot of those. This was very interesting. A lot of these denominations I have never heard of
There are actually a whole LOT more Baptist churches than he was able to find maps for! As he said, he couldn’t even find a map for the largest Baptist denomination, the Southern Baptist Church. If you’re really interested, you could just look up ‘Baptist Churches’ on Wikipedia
@@funbukit5366 According to Anabaptist World: The Evangelical United Mennonites became the Mennonite Brethren in Christ in 1883, following the addition of a group that left a Brethren in Christ splinter group over baptismal practices and revival meetings. The MBIC remained Mennonite in identity well into 20th century. But it changed its name to the United Missionary Church in 1947, evidence of its decreasing Anabaptist identity and increasing affinity for evangelicalism. In 1969, the United Missionary Church merged with the Missionary Church Association, which originated among the Amish in the 1850s. Now the Missionary Church USA, and the sister denomination the Evangelical Missionary Church of Canada has over 600 congregations.
If you zoom in on Oklahoma during the Latin Mass section, you'll see there's a dedicated Latin Mass parish there in Tulsa. That parish is called Most Precious Blood Parish. It's also where my family and I will be attending as of next week.
You realize some different churches share buildings. Example: our church building was reformed Calvinist [URC], but shared with a non denominational Korean church. I know of others, one baptist church building down the street also houses 2 other churches every Sunday. So the maps may not be as misleading as you hinted at.
The SSPX and FSSP are not the only Catholic Churches to have Traditional Latin Mass. Many diocese provide at least one Mass for those who prefer the TLM experience. Unfortunately, there are a number of Bishops who will not allow anyone to "follow Apollos".
Similar but much smaller than RB Network is the newly constituted CBA (Confessional Baptist Association) which was formed from the churches who dissolved ARBCA, which in the past had a large number of Reformed Baptist churches.
I live in a very multi-cultural area (the local school district counts 96 languages because of refugees from all over the world), and we have Baptist congregations like the Chin Baptist and Korean Baptist and even Chinese Baptist as well. It’s cool that you covered Slavic Baptist, but there are more!
It is disheartenting to see the lack of unity in Christianity. Once you create one schism from the chiristian church you form a habit of splitting infinitely.
As a Mennonite, I can tell you with regard to your question on what Anabaptist denomination is the largest: MCUSA is currently the largest Anabaptist "official" Anabaptist denomination. However, they are trending lower, while other denominations (generally the conservative denoms) trending larger. And of course, if you consider the "amish" to be a denomination, they are in the hundreds of thousands and would outsize MCUSA by almost 10x
Amish are most definitely the largest Anabaptist denomination, by far. They tend to have very large families- 10 or 12 children per family are not at all uncommon, and I know many with more. I know one family with more than 20 children, because they had twins and triplets! And they tend to retain a high percentage of their youth, so the Amish church is growing at a much higher rate than most other denominations. Their population tends to double every 18 to 20 years. Within the Amish, there are about 40 different affiliations, but they would not call each other separate denominations. These are just groups within the Amish Church who have chosen very similar sets of community rules, who share convictions, who will visit each other, marry each other, exchange ministers and commune with each other. Whatever type of Amish you grow up in, you gradually get to know which other congregations you fellowship with, over time. Now if you want to count actual numbers and say how many Amish Church members there actually are, people need to remember that this will only represent the number of adult Amish who have chosen to be baptized and join the church. So the number of Amish church numbers will never include any children, because Amish are baptized and join church when they are in their upper teens or 20s, when they are mature and feel ready to make serious commitments like the baptismal covenant commitment to the church. Also, quite a lot join the church when they are ready to get married, because you cannot be married in the Amish Church unless you are first a member. There are many resources available to find out more about the Amish. They are one of the most studied groups by sociologists, so there is really no problem to find out where their communities are located! And most Amish groups rely on direct sales to outsiders or “English“ people, so they don’t exactly want to hide where they live. Only a couple communities use church buildings, so to identify a specific Amish community we need to focus on where they live, geographically. The nearest town is usually used to identify them, or sometimes the county. Occasionally they are named for a past leader of their unique affiliation, such as the strict Swartzentrubers. Some good resources to learn more are the weekly ‘The Budget’ newspaper published in Sugarcreek Ohio. Nearly every Amish group has scribes who send in letters telling what has happened in their congregation and community that week. By reading The Budget, you can hear directly from the Amish. There are many resources available online. I would start out with the Amish America website, which has a list of every community, features Amish in the news, reports of visiting different communities, has some lists of stores and businesses in the Amish community. They also have a RUclips channel and make educational videos about the Amish! They answer a LOT of questions about the Amish in their website, so it’s an excellent place to start. JPAS, the Journal of Plain Anabaptist Studies focuses primarily on the Amish, but also include some articles about Plain Mennonites, Plain Brethren, Hutterites, Apostolics and other conservative, Plain Anabaptists. All issues are available to read online for free. This journal was started by an OSU professor and a Beachy Amish person. Many Sociology students, students of Religion or Rural Studies send in some of their research or papers they have written, regarding some aspect of Plain Anabaptist life. Some of us plain people also write articles for this journal. GAMEO is another resource, the Global Anabaptist Mennonite Encyclopedia Online. It has information about the history and location of different congregations, information on Church splits, missionary, disaster relief and other outreach work, and some important people in Anabaptist history. It does tend to lean a little more towards the Mennonite side, but you still can find out good information. The Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies in Elizabethtown PA is another good resource for information, as well as books. If you are ever in northern Indiana, I highly recommend that you visit MennoHof Amish Visitor Center in Shipshewana IN. This is a museum, education centre and excellent source for books, which gives you a great walk-through experience of Anabaptist history from the beginning in 1525. We are almost 500 years old! I think several of these resources show or have maps of where the Amish are located, and I believe they now live in 32 or 33 states plus a few provinces of Canada, and a few in Latin America. There might be a Beachy Amish congregation in Ireland, I’m not sure. But when I used to get The Budget newspaper, there were a few international columns. Hopefully this helps someone find the information they want! Enjoy!💙🌻
No fault of yours, but the map of Primitive Baptist churches shows two locations in California that no longer exist. One was in Los Angeles proper and the other was in the Imperial Valley.
If you consider ethnicity, a number of things become clear. At one point, Detroit was the largest "Polish city" after Warsaw and Chicago was not far behind. Lots of Scandinavians live in the Upper Peninsulas of Michigan and lots of Swedes and Norwegian live in Minnesota. Germans were big in Iowa, Pennsylvania and a few other places. Look to where the Irish, Italian and Hispanics are common and you will find their ethnic religion. And if you look to the home of the biggest non-Christian religion (founder Smith rejected Christianity), Utah, you will find very few markers on your map.
As a pastor in the Converge Church, your North Dakota map needs a little update. There are only three of our churches here as of 2023. I believe that you have an older map. There are two churches towards Fargo then the one in the Southern Middle of the map.
Great video. How did you decide which churches to include? I was surprised to see some very large ones but I don’t think I saw churches like Assemblies of God or Foursquare (maybe I missed that section?). I enjoyed it greatly but I’m guessing this isn’t just the largest denominations. Do you plan to do more videos with the other denominations? *edit* just listened again… thanks for answering my questions at the end. 😅
I think they're the last large example of a "vanilla" Holiness church that didn't join the Pentecostals when they came along or swing back to identifying as mainstream "Methodist."
I’m not sure why he didn’t show just all the Catholic Churches as they‘re all one unified body, unless it would just be too cluttered and over populated on that size map.
Originally, I'm from Grand Rapids, MI and we have a very prominent "Bible Belt" in our state. The area from Holland, Zeeland, Grand Rapids, and many of the suburbs of Grand Rapids is heavily populated with faithful. So, go back and look closely at Grand Rapids, MI and there is more presence of the various denominations than not.
Yeah I’m always surprised it’s not mentioned more. The theological diversity is insane, about everyone is represented around here, but it does get very reformed centric the more west you go
Noticed on several maps had different colored pins for the same denomination. If time allows might be interesting to explain what that represents in maybe 1-2 maps.
Check out Glenmary maps. Been doing it for many years. Btw, do you know how small the Latin Mass groups are? Every diocese offers a Latin Mass . Most cannot justify offering two Latin Masses due to lack of interest🤷♂️
An at least partial explanation for the distribution of Wesleyan and Free Methodist churches is that they were originally formed in the mid 1800s by people who took a more firm anti-slavery stance than did the Methodist Episcopal Church and they became established mostly in paces where people opposing slavery were moving.
Can you account for small communion churches that run out of houses or don't have built churches? Both the Churches I go to in NZ (one Anglician and one Rātana) don't have google map churches but move around to houses, or using other Church's halls. Surely America with all it's small towns and minority communities has thousands of such churches?
That would be cool. But it seems like it would difficult to classify such churches. Although, potentially a web portal could be used to allow them to self-classify. There are so many you would still expect only a small number.
This video makes me wonder why where I live is called the Bible Belt and why it isn’t up in the Northeast to the Great Lakes. It looks like there are a lot more church options than there are here in Arkansas.
Hey brother i do like watching your streams HOWEVER WHY DONT you mention ANYTHING about your closest neighbor?? To the north buddy. Alberta for instance is the bible belt of Canada. We have all the denominations you have. Thx
The reverent catholic mass website includes all rites (eastern and western).
@@eliegbert8121, broadly speaking there are 6 liturgical rites used by the 24 Sui Iuris churches. Just over half of the churches use the Byzantine Rite (I think it's 13 or 14).
Exactly, there are 24 Sui Iuris bodies that make up the one Catholic Church. The Latin Church is the one and only Western Church while the other 23 are labeled as eastern. The rite in the western church is the Roman rite, while there have been many others over the years such as mozarabic or ambrosian, unfortunately they are no longer in widespread use and for all intensive purposes to be considered dead.
Within the eastern catholic churches there exists the Alexandria Rite, The Byzantine Rite, the Armenian Rite, the East Syriac Rite, and the West Syriac Rite. The byzantine is by far the largest and most common globally.
@@caseycardenas1668 and of course, the Orthodox claim to be the One Catholic Apostolic church also (and have a better claim imo but I'm biased personally), and we also have both Latin rite and Byzantine rite churches in communion with each other👍
@@highviewbarbell that's not entirely true. All the churches that utilize a Western Rite primarily belong to the archdiocese of Antioch and simply perform Western Rite Liturgies that are often heavily easternized. In other words it's just an Eastern church belonging to an eastern patriarch that has a western coat of paint. There isn't a western church proper in orthodoxy. It's not quite the same as the setup as you see in the Papal Catholic Church. Western Rite Orthodoxy is extremely small, like EXTREMELY small. I won't partake in any debates because the matter is extremely nuanced but on paper the Catholic Church has done better when incorporating the non western ancient rites and bringing them under one umbrella than either the EO or the OO have.
@@caseycardenas1668 well, i mean, it's precisely the "umbrella" that's the problem :D although yes it is extremely nuanced. Please try not to lump us in with OO at least if possible, they're non-chalcedonian and broke away from the Church like 600 years before the big one in 1054 (really it was more like 1204)
I am a Catholic and speaking from personal experience. I lived in Eastern Oregon near Idaho Nevada border. Probably one of the least populated places in the whole country and I can tell you there is a Catholic Church in every little town. 100 people on up basically, so that map is not very indicative of the actual amount of churches. I would assume dramatically dwarfs basically every denomination in the US. Every place you go there is generally a Catholic Church which is nice, you will never have to miss mass.
The Baker Diocese has some amazing little parishes!
That was my diocese!
I know! I live in rural Nebraska, and barely any of the churches I go to were on there
@@derek4412 possibly true. This has happened many times throughout church history so I don’t really think much of it. I wouldn’t call 1990 the high point of Catholicism. It is still alive and well throughout the world.
Most of those small towns have non denominational from what I remember growing up in Eastern Oregon the majority of my young life
The reason for the Polish churches being in Chicago is due to Chicago having the biggest Polish population outside of Poland. We have so many in fact that we have a holiday called Casimir Pulaski (Famous Polish cavalry officer who trained American soldiers in the revolutionary war) day which is really only celebrated in Chicagoland.
I grew up a few miles from Pulaski Highway in Maryland. Great to see he gets renown!
The original Presidential Inauguration Day, March 4th, St. Casimir’s Day, was chosen in honor of Gen. Pulaski.
@@andrewdrysdale6164 I did not know that Maryland had such a highway. I am glad we got to share information.
@@CatholicTraditional Hmm. Thank you for the information!
Really, the Poles were all over the steel belt. Every nationality tended toward a given industry (Swedish lumber, German farms, Irish factories, Polish mines, etc.) Those were just the jobs the communities were more used to, and people wanted to live with their countrymen.
My area is former coal territory, and Pollocks are all over the place.
Throwing the Catholic Latin Mass locations as a separate thing was a super interesting and revealing choice
What implication does it give?
Not surprised at the concentration of Slavic Baptist churches in the PNW. Lots of Soviet expats landed there when the USSR broke up. I went to school with a lot of Soviet kids.
Hi Josua, most of the churches in WV are rural independent baptist/holiness churches that have been isolated for some time. Hence the failure for big denominations to Penetrate into WV
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In the tiny town that I'm from there's one Baptist church and one Methodist church. My family were coal miners who came from Cornwall (UK) and the Cornish miners were pretty much all Methodist. Other denominations are very thin on the ground, for example Catholic and Presbyterian churches are few and far between.
I was thinking WV was a Pentecostal stronghold
@@ranelgallardo7031 Pentecostal/Holiness; most are independent and lines blur
You'll find a fair amount of Pentecostal in Kentucky. In Southeast Kentucky you'll need to ask if their Oneness or trinity though. @@ranelgallardo7031
Polish National Catholic Church distribution follows Polish immigration into mining and industrial areas, hence, Great Lakes, Northeast, and Upper Midwest.
While most Polish people are still catholic in communion with Rome.
PNCC was founded because they wanted the Mass in Polish.
Very interesting. It would be helpful to have a heat map of the general population and one of the Christian population just to get a sense of when a particular denomination is just reflected in the population and when it is really 'bucking the trend' geographically.
As a native of WV, most people would attend a Baptist (Independant, Southern, Freewill), United Methodist and Presbyterian church. Northern WV would have a higher percentage of Catholic churches than the Southern part. Throughout the state you would have Churches of Christ and Independant Holiness based churches. In the Charleston (state capital), there is a large concentration of Church of the Nazarene/Church of God - Anderson/Wesleyan Churches.
FSSP (Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri) is the latin acronymn.
PFSP (Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter) is the english acronymn.
Same organization, though PFSP is used more often than FSSP since SSPX is also called FSSPX.
Can I ask where PFSP is used? Because I attend an fssp church and I've never heard them referred to as pfsp
@@Adam-fj9px, ditto. I've never heard an FSSP parish referred to via anything else. SSPX I've seen both ways, but never for FSSP. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but not in my experience.
@@Adam-fj9pxFSSP is used as the initials of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. SSPX is generally used as the initials in English for the Society of St. Pius X, which includes the FSSPX (Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X) as canonically founded by +Lefebvre, the Sisters, the Brothers, and other affiliates that work with them.
Once again you've shown your talent for in-depth research. Very impressive.
The SSPX and FSSP really is an interesting subject to me as a protestant, namely as a Lutheran who also has a close relationship with the ACNA. Also, so not shocked that Polish Catholic Church has churches near Chicago
Yea what's with the Polish in Chicago and in the greater Illinois ?
My ex gf was polish and from Chicago, apparently a big polish community there...?
@@Compulsive-Elk7103 Yup, it has the biggest Polish community outside Poland itself.
One of the interesting points is that the FSSP is a valid fraternity within the Church. Whereas, the SSPX is a schismatic group.
Always great to see another evangelical catholic.
@@kennethbergstrom3383 The SSPX is not in schism. They are in a "Canonically Irregular" situation, but any Catholic fulfils his Sunday obligation by attending Mass at one of their chapels.
Makes me sad. Wyoming had several Latin Masses until the bishop shut them down. This is happening all over the US. I wonder why you didn't show all Catholic parishes. They are very easy to find no matter where you are. I don't think I'm ever further than a half hour from a parish, though I will drive hours to make it to a Latin Mass when I'm traveling.
Interesting video, thanks. Will there be a part 2? I noticed The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was not included. They have denominations in every state. It would be interesting to see that map.
Yeah he is very anti-LDS. He did another video where he says they are not Christians because they don’t believe in the Trinity, but rather the Godhead
@@elijahfoster2I wouldn't necessarily say that is "very anti-LDS" but it does explain why we're almost never mentioned on this channel. A shame.
@@elijahfoster2Trinitarianism being the litmus test for Christianity is so arbitrary lol. This would also exclude the historically significant unitarians.
@@agorapanologia Yeah I just extrapolated a bit I guess
Yes. At the end of this video, he says there will be a part 2, and among the ones included will be non-Trinitarians.
Looking through the comments, he says it will include The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
While he might not personally think Latter-day Saints to be Christian, he seems to always take a scholarly approach. He has a video where he discusses what people mean when they say "Christian" and talks about Latter-day Saints in that context.
I feel like he does talk about it often in his videos, especially this type, where he talks about many types of churches. And even when he doesn't, he talks about other non-Trinitarian churches, so I doubt that is the reason it is sometimes not included.
Fun fact there are ordinariate priests outside of just that map. The Catholic Church in hillsdale michigan tor example has an ordinariate priest with a wife and 4 kids
Would love to see an Eastern Catholics map, or at least a Byzantine Catholic map, in part 2
Few and far between unfortunately. I have the location of every Byzantine Catholic Church on the east coast that belongs to the Eparchy of Passaic. It's under 100 parishes and many of them are very small. The Byzantine Catholic Church in the United States a.k.a the Ruthenian Greek Catholic Church is made up of 4 Eparchies. Parma, Passaic, Phoenix, Pittsburgh. There's approximately 215 Parishes in the United States give or take.
@@caseycardenas1668There's a lot of variety, I guess. I count 9 different Eastern parishes just within the geographic boundaries of the Latin Diocese of San Diego.
@@jdotoz you also have to take into the account the vastness of the United States as well. A majority of people do not live within even 2 hours of an eastern Catholic parish. The Byzantine Ruthenian Church in America is the largest byzantine rite church in the states. The Chaldean Catholic Church is actually the largest Eastern church in the United States but that is in terms of parishioners. Geographically, it is very concentrated and not widespread. God willing, they will grow and more will come from orthodoxy into communion through the ECC. Many of the top Catholic apologist are also parishioners of Eastern Churches, specifically Byzantine so that also raises people's interests as well.
@@caseycardenas1668 I imagine that this is because historically, the Eastern churches were more ethnically or nationally defined than the Latin church, so outside of the original countries where they started the Eastern churches need to concentrate where their specific populations are.
@@jdotoz to an extent, people tend to forget that the Latin Church of yesteryear was also very ethnic. This can be observed when you see certain churches in certain communities have parishes named after a saint from their churches ethnic region. When mass immigration was common around the turn of the 19th century and before even, ethnic Latin Churches were very common. Polish, Irish, Italian, Spanish just to name a few. It just so happens that Latin Christianity was predominant in many of the societies in the old world from which came many migrants.
Eastern Christians while often using geographic based naming conventions, are for all intensive purposes regardless of ethnicity, Greek Catholic in the same way that a Frenchman or a Spaniard is a Latin Catholic. The reformation was also derived from Western Christian practice so much of that would have also looked familiar and here in the states the western flair was what reigned supreme simply because it was the most common. For centuries, eastern catholic churches were suppressed and heavily latinized which was a real shame and a disservice to Christendom. Because of this, the eastern heritage within Catholicism itself could not genuinely thrive. Obviously things have changed but the effects of this can be seen to this day.
Would be cool if more of these maps showed the membership at each denomination. Lots of churches have a bunch of "legacy" parishes with less than 100 members just running on endowment money
Churches are declining indeed elsewhere in the developed world. Tons of "legacy" Parishes elsewhere. My own rural area Roman Catholic one here in Portugal is one of those. Hardly an ASA of more than 150 spread for 5 locations, mostly on their 70+. It will likely to be finished by 2040, if not earlier.
@@nunagorasvery sad to hear
Ok, so, about the "Reverent" ones. Within the Catholic Church there is Novus Ordo Missae and Reverent N.O, which comprise most of the Catholic Masses worldwide. Novus Ordo as we know in the US is generally seen as more laxed, open, not as Liturgical, while Reverent is the opposite. They retain the Latin language, Hymns, chants, and Altar Rails, utilized in the Roman Missal of 1962, along with Ad Orientem in some cases. This is the most basic explanation i can give, but if you wish, i can give more through research.
Hope this helps!
Reverent Mass doesn't mean in Latin, as he said in the video. Most Roman Catholic parishes in America are Novus Ordo.
I checked and they aren't accurate in my area. Either they are missing churches that fit the definition of are excluding churches that fit it.
@@Nonz.M Reverent N.O IS Novus Ordo, however, many (If not most in my case) of those are in Latin.
@@EasternCatholicLusophone no, the most common Roman Catholic liturgy used in America is the Novus Ordo in English.
The real explanation is that a few cranks are trying to put some weight behind their personal opinions.
Really glad to see you touch on the latin mass communities
Interesting note on the concentration of conservative Anglicans in Texas, that is also where the Roman Catholic Anglican Ordinariate is strongest.
Nebraska is my home state and I love many times he points out Nebraska in the video.
I would like to see a map of the seminaries correlated the the particular denominations.
Where is the United Confederation of Associated Assemblies? 😂
Ok, thanks to the great work.
In summary: Liberal Churches would flock more to the blue states, while conservative ones would flock to the red ones. The Catholics are elsewhere, and the rad trad Catholics, while predominantly to the rural areas seem to flourish elsewhere as well.
True. Most Latin Masses are in red states.
Blue states have just as many Catholics because of the latino population, the north has alot of polish, irish, italian american people that are still catholic
@@firstlast-pq1tx True! And from my own Portugal as well on the blue states. But the reverent or Tridentine Latin Mass Catholic maps do deserve another more in depth view, perhaps deserving a video up only for them all. It seems clear that those more conservative outfits are not growing on the mainline red or mainline blue states or regions. They're growing towards secondary urban or full rural areas, with a possible inroad the main locations for a special purpose. It is such a different sort of phenomenon now going on. A few days ago there was an Eucharistic procession in NYC with some 4000+ in NYC from the most conservative Catholic fringes. One could argue: That's nothing in such a huge dozens of millions people city... But, surprisingly, even for me, they attracted a quite good share of very young individuals. Would to be interesting to know from where they were: The main city? The secondary places? People from all over the place? Catholic extreme conservatism seems a phenomena for us to stay attentive in the next years to come.
The REC is a sub-jurisdiction of the ACNA, not a single Diocese.
As for the polish Catholic Church, there is a substantial number of polish immigrants who live in Milwaukee, Chicago, and the regions
Rather interesting seeing where certain groups are concentrated. 🙂
6:16 *LOTS* of Poles in Chicago. Detroit, too.
27:25 Quite a few Wesleyan Churches in Long Island NY, near The City.
15:20 Always cool to see the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter recognized. My grandfather was a founding member, married Episcopalian priest who became a married Catholic priest.
10:33 pYup they are everywhere here in western Ky. I pastor a sbc church that leans reformed and we have lots of other Baptists. It makes ministry difficult honestly
There are technically no SSPX parishes anywhere. They have chapels that provide services to the public, but the laity who attend there remain under the jurisdiction of the local ordinary. The priests of the Society are not properly incardinated in a diocese or a religious institute in full communion with Rome. They exercise no canonical functions within the Church.
True. They work independently of the bishops, administering the Traditional Sacraments when often the dioceses refuse to.
@@CatholicTraditional There is no such thing as independence from the bishops.
@@jdotoz Well, monasteries are owned operated independently. They’re generally subject to applicable Canons and particular diocesan laws.
@CatholicTraditional Which is not independence. What would the Society do if a local ordinary told them to stop being open to the public in his diocese?
@@jdotoz As far as I know, no bishop has ever shut down an SSPX chapel. Some (even Trad friendly ones) have advised not to go Mass there. The Society generally owns their own real estate or leases for their locations, so it would still be tough for a diocese to evict them.
Where are the Lutheran denominations in America located--especially the Evangelical Lutheran of America of which I'm a part of? Please let me know-thanx 😊
As mentioned at the end, Lutherans are in part 2.
There is a reason why the Hutterites look like they are spreading to Canada. They had originally settled in the USA, but due to the draft policy of the American government, they fled the USA to Canada where they were not forced to serve in the army, but could opt for the ambulance brigade. Please correct me if I am wrong on this account.
Wow, you left off one of the largest denominations in the US? And instead included a lot which were much smaller.
LDS?
Yes, as I stated, most of the larger denominations don't have maps. So we are left with the smaller ones.
@@ReadyToHarvest wow, thanks for a quick response. I found a map of all the buildings in the US within two minutes. I’m not trying to be difficult and I appreciate your effort and video. Keep them coming. 😀
Which denomination?@@kevinmatthews7180
Most reformed Baptist churches are independent. For instance the largest church in my area by a huge margin is an independent reformed Baptist multi-campus church.
Now, if we actually looked at those so-called Christian denominations that actually followed the teachings of Jesus, there would be very few marks on the map!
Thanks for mentioning majority-Black denominations, even though maps were not available for all.
There are monthly diocesan Latin Masses in Macon Ga., Augusta Ga., and in the small town of Ray City Ga..
It's too bad there's no map for Missionary Baptists. There are over 30 in my county, three on my road!
Very interesting to see the different concentrations of denominations. I wouldn't have have imagined that some of the churches would be so concentrated in such a small area. Something else that I noticed but not surprised by was the more liberal baptists were only found in major cities.
You really have a cool channel! Thanks
My mom used to take me to a Polish National Catholic service for Easter and Christmas.
For the Catholic breakdowns...
FSSP (as well as ICKSP and many Diocesan priests as well) are approved parishes for the Tridentine Mass (aka Traditional Latin Mass or TLM).
SSPX (actually FSSPX, an acronym that like FSSP is based on the official Latin name) is generally unapproved. The main difference is Sedevacantism-- basically a large number of SSPX quietly or sometimes openly hold that there is no Pope due to their view that a Pope past or present is a heretic. Thus they're generally considered schismatic. Popes JPII and BXVI helped normalize relations and seemingly encouraged TLM's to form. Pope Francis is nowhere near as welcoming of conservative Roman Catholic voices.
The Reverent Catholic Mass list generally includes the TLM parishes as well as Eastern Catholic options and select [tradition-focused and conservative] ordinary diocesan options providing the Novus Ordo. Basically it's the Novus Ordo from shortly after Vatican II, with the bishops and individual priests remaining much more traditional and conservative.
Eastern Catholic churches are generally Byzantine, East Syriac, West Syriac, or Armenian Rite. Basically components of each Eastern Orthodox Church that is (currently) in full communion with Rome. These Eastern Catholics often have churches in communities with higher immigration rates. The mass isn't generally presented in Latin, instead favoring regional languages.
That's not the extent either. Some bishops allow and encourage diocesan TLM's. The majority of American bishops did little or nothing in response to Traditionis Custodes (a letter/directive from Pope Francis to suppress diocesan TLM's). A handful of bishops used it to cancel most or all once-approved TLM's in their diocese (sometimes including FSSP or ICKSP parishes even and leading many of those to the SSPX). Others used it to rearrange the structure, removing the TLM from split-worship churches (celebrating both NO and TLM) and instead putting together new TLM-only churches. Some others require that TLM diocesan churches celebrate the Novus Ordo one weekend a month. But the vast majority of American bishops made no noticeable changes whatsoever, basically disregarding the entire letter in light of their personal faith and the faith of their parishioners (and some community pressure).
I am not a sedevacantist, I have done research on them. Sedevacantists largely reject the election of St John XXIII ("Papa Buono") believing that Giuseppe (Cardinal) Siri was the one elected but was intimidated by those evil Soviets who forced the conclave's hand into choosing Angelo (Cardinal) Roncalli as the Holy Pontiff. Sedevacantists point to that decision as the moment in which started the fall of Catholicism in the West, often citing the permitting of "homosexual" priests into seminaries and high ecclesiastical positions started by Pope John's election. Probably the most prominent sedevacantist RUclipsr is Eclipse 1958 whose videos are a snapshot into a mind of a true sedevacantist (he not only denies the 1958 conclave but the one in 1903 that elected Pius X, the 1963 conclave that elected Paul VI and the 1978 conclaves that elected the two Popes John Paul).
@@mariosportsmaster7662 The sedevacantist stance doesn't make much sense to me. There have been downright evil popes in the past who have tried to corrupt the Church. Some succeeded for a time. Little beyond their names and crimes have stood the test of the centuries. I don't believe the RCC can be so easily cancelled.
Do I find it a little suspicious that BXVI resigned? Yeah, a bit. Do I find it odd that Pope Francis hasn't taken a firmer hand on dealing with the clearest issues of morality? Definitely. I think the components of the RCC in Germany that have blessed homosexual couples should be sharply corrected by whatever means are necessary.
I'm rather disturbed by some aspects of Pope Francis's papacy, and sincerely hope he finds and adheres to the truths that Christ gave us. I fear even that, as I think he'll be far more slippery.
@@mariosportsmaster7662This is the correct phenomenon of Sedevacantism: no Pope since Pius XII died in 1958. Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, SSPX founder, held the “recognize & resist” position, which included rightful disagreement with Paul VI altering the Mass and Sacraments (N.O.) while supporting his Humanae Vitae for upholding birth control ban. Ordered the use of the 1962 Missal in 1983 to kick the Sedes out of the order. Considering the funny business of Benedict XVI being removed in 2013 in favor of Francis, we might be in Sede 2.0, which is further complicating things as we speak.
Joshua, I haven't seen them in a while, but I the the U.S. Census Bureau has put out maps of the U.S. of people's self identified religious affiliation based on counties. Thet are pretty informative and you may find them interesting.
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We pastored in the Wesleyan Church that represents that lowest dot in Tx.
Protestant denominations just breaking off Willy nilly like truth is subjective
This is awesome! I have been trying to learn where different denominations are concentrated for a while. Can’t wait for part two.
Why didn't you include the Seventh Day Baptists amoung the other Baptists? They're larger than some of the other Baptist groups you included and they don't give themselves obfuscatious names.
Thanks for another great video, Joshua! This got me thinking that it would be fascinating for you to compare how “ethnic” certain denominations still are! For example, I am Lutheran and I already know our map will be most heavily concentrated in the upper Midwest (especially the ELCA), since almost everyone I know who is Lutheran has some German or Scandinavian ancestry and that’s where most of them settled! Conversely, it seems like Presbyterianism has a bit less of an attachment to Americans of Scottish ancestry as those settlers became “assimilated” much earlier, and then you have American-made denominations like Pentecostalism that don’t have any ancestral component at all!
I definitely think the "ethnic" element matters more in the interior, smaller states, but less so when you get into bigger, coastal states. Like a Kansas or Nebraska, depending on who settled out there, their tradition is what pre-dominanted the area. If alot of Episcopalians settled in one area, you'll get a mass of Episcopalian churches, some RC churches, and maybe an SBC church or two; and that's probably it.
One thing to consider regarding "Reformed Baptist".....some of us identify as "Particular Baptist" and the "Reformed Baptist" groups may not recognize us as Reformed Baptists. The difference might be that Reformed Baptists follow covenant theology while Particular Baptists are dispensational, or there may be other differences. I am not dispensational and I believe in the doctrines of grace (TULIP), but I identify as Particular Baptist rather than Reformed Baptist.
Love you man, but you are missing 1/25th of the states and about 1/3 of the land area of the US!
14:30 I think it would be nice to start off with a population map, just so we can all keep that in mind as we look at maps like this. I am mostly suggesting this because I feel like you have a high level of precision and accuracy in your content overall and therefore feel you may actually appreciate the suggestion. Also I think we may look at maps again. Which I very much liked, I love maps.
While proclaimed Christianity is down aprox 19% overall, Nazarene membership is up 34%...Shows what happens when you welcome everyone :)
Typically, every Roman Catholic Diocese has offers a Latin Mass somewhere. In My city, the 8am Sunday Mass at a downtown Parish is where it is held. While there may have been some initial excitement about the Latin Mass being offered, it really has not taken off. I have been to two Latin Masses as an adult and don’t care to go again as I don’t know Latin well and the congregations give off the vibe that they are are better than others. In addition, a they don’t allow girl alter servers and probably women readers either.
They claim huge growth... But it is not showing for real day people in the streets. TLM has become mostly such a digital social media thingy for some obscure political drives...
@@nunagoras - there has not been huge growth. They have not even taken over in the parishes where a Latin Mass is offered weekly. The other Masses in that Parish are in English.
North Dakota, a lot of Catholics with big families of like 3-7 kids. Like 1950s America.
Haven't made it to the end yet but after this additional layer of ground work it might be nice to do a regional video every now and again. Do like a 3-6 state deeper dive from time to time. I think it might be nice for people that are moving and help to give some regional historical cancer that doesn't fit in the broader vids.
Great work just getting into the meat and potatoes of the video right away! No longwinded introduction or immediate sponsorship, just getting right into the facts. I like it.
There is a correction for the Map needed for the Vineyard USA.
There is one in Casper WY.
It's known as Wellsprings Vineyard.
I never knew there were so many different kinds of Baptist churches. I’m Calvary Chapel, and I know there are a lot of those. This was very interesting. A lot of these denominations I have never heard of
There are actually a whole LOT more Baptist churches than he was able to find maps for! As he said, he couldn’t even find a map for the largest Baptist denomination, the Southern Baptist Church. If you’re really interested, you could just look up ‘Baptist Churches’ on Wikipedia
Aha! I see the red marker for the one Yuma Arizona Anglican Church. I know several of its members, as well as its pastor.
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Are you gonna cover the Roman Catholic Synod?
Did you miss the Missionary Church (MCUSA?) or did they just not have a usable map? I figured they’d get in the Anabaptist section.
I am Mennonite and had never heard of the Missionary Church. Curious if they practice biblical peacemaking in their theology?
@@funbukit5366 According to Anabaptist World: The Evangelical United Mennonites became the Mennonite Brethren in Christ in 1883, following the addition of a group that left a Brethren in Christ splinter group over baptismal practices and revival meetings. The MBIC remained Mennonite in identity well into 20th century. But it changed its name to the United Missionary Church in 1947, evidence of its decreasing Anabaptist identity and increasing affinity for evangelicalism.
In 1969, the United Missionary Church merged with the Missionary Church Association, which originated among the Amish in the 1850s. Now the Missionary Church USA, and the sister denomination the Evangelical Missionary Church of Canada has over 600 congregations.
@@Joeljdwatts Gotcha, thanks. Does Missionary Church practice peacemaking and nonresistance as similar to other Anabaptists?
If you zoom in on Oklahoma during the Latin Mass section, you'll see there's a dedicated Latin Mass parish there in Tulsa. That parish is called Most Precious Blood Parish. It's also where my family and I will be attending as of next week.
You realize some different churches share buildings. Example: our church building was reformed Calvinist [URC], but shared with a non denominational Korean church. I know of others, one baptist church building down the street also houses 2 other churches every Sunday.
So the maps may not be as misleading as you hinted at.
The SSPX and FSSP are not the only Catholic Churches to have Traditional Latin Mass. Many diocese provide at least one Mass for those who prefer the TLM experience. Unfortunately, there are a number of Bishops who will not allow anyone to "follow Apollos".
Similar but much smaller than RB Network is the newly constituted CBA (Confessional Baptist Association) which was formed from the churches who dissolved ARBCA, which in the past had a large number of Reformed Baptist churches.
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I went to a fundraiser for the Polish Catholic Parish in Minneapolis when their church burned down. Good food.
The SSPV is Catholic and you didn’t mention us. We hold to tradition (1955 and prior), the Latin Mass and we are fully Catholic.
SSPV doesn't have a map as far as I am aware. I did look for one.
@@ReadyToHarvest Bummer. Okay, thanks for responding. God bless.
I live in a very multi-cultural area (the local school district counts 96 languages because of refugees from all over the world), and we have Baptist congregations like the Chin Baptist and Korean Baptist and even Chinese Baptist as well. It’s cool that you covered Slavic Baptist, but there are more!
It is disheartenting to see the lack of unity in Christianity. Once you create one schism from the chiristian church you form a habit of splitting infinitely.
First 30 seconds and the wave of disappointment that I got, seriously Episcopalians we can do better. 😂❤
As a Mennonite, I can tell you with regard to your question on what Anabaptist denomination is the largest: MCUSA is currently the largest Anabaptist "official" Anabaptist denomination. However, they are trending lower, while other denominations (generally the conservative denoms) trending larger. And of course, if you consider the "amish" to be a denomination, they are in the hundreds of thousands and would outsize MCUSA by almost 10x
Amish may be the largest Anabaptist denomination, but they are least likely to have posted an online map of their congregations.
Amish are most definitely the largest Anabaptist denomination, by far. They tend to have very large families- 10 or 12 children per family are not at all uncommon, and I know many with more. I know one family with more than 20 children, because they had twins and triplets! And they tend to retain a high percentage of their youth, so the Amish church is growing at a much higher rate than most other denominations. Their population tends to double every 18 to 20 years.
Within the Amish, there are about 40 different affiliations, but they would not call each other separate denominations. These are just groups within the Amish Church who have chosen very similar sets of community rules, who share convictions, who will visit each other, marry each other, exchange ministers and commune with each other. Whatever type of Amish you grow up in, you gradually get to know which other congregations you fellowship with, over time.
Now if you want to count actual numbers and say how many Amish Church members there actually are, people need to remember that this will only represent the number of adult Amish who have chosen to be baptized and join the church. So the number of Amish church numbers will never include any children, because Amish are baptized and join church when they are in their upper teens or 20s, when they are mature and feel ready to make serious commitments like the baptismal covenant commitment to the church. Also, quite a lot join the church when they are ready to get married, because you cannot be married in the Amish Church unless you are first a member.
There are many resources available to find out more about the Amish. They are one of the most studied groups by sociologists, so there is really no problem to find out where their communities are located! And most Amish groups rely on direct sales to outsiders or “English“ people, so they don’t exactly want to hide where they live. Only a couple communities use church buildings, so to identify a specific Amish community we need to focus on where they live, geographically. The nearest town is usually used to identify them, or sometimes the county. Occasionally they are named for a past leader of their unique affiliation, such as the strict Swartzentrubers.
Some good resources to learn more are the weekly ‘The Budget’ newspaper published in Sugarcreek Ohio. Nearly every Amish group has scribes who send in letters telling what has happened in their congregation and community that week. By reading The Budget, you can hear directly from the Amish.
There are many resources available online. I would start out with the Amish America website, which has a list of every community, features Amish in the news, reports of visiting different communities, has some lists of stores and businesses in the Amish community. They also have a RUclips channel and make educational videos about the Amish! They answer a LOT of questions about the Amish in their website, so it’s an excellent place to start.
JPAS, the Journal of Plain Anabaptist Studies focuses primarily on the Amish, but also include some articles about Plain Mennonites, Plain Brethren, Hutterites, Apostolics and other conservative, Plain Anabaptists. All issues are available to read online for free. This journal was started by an OSU professor and a Beachy Amish person. Many Sociology students, students of Religion or Rural Studies send in some of their research or papers they have written, regarding some aspect of Plain Anabaptist life. Some of us plain people also write articles for this journal.
GAMEO is another resource, the Global Anabaptist Mennonite Encyclopedia Online. It has information about the history and location of different congregations, information on Church splits, missionary, disaster relief and other outreach work, and some important people in Anabaptist history. It does tend to lean a little more towards the Mennonite side, but you still can find out good information.
The Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies in Elizabethtown PA is another good resource for information, as well as books.
If you are ever in northern Indiana, I highly recommend that you visit MennoHof Amish Visitor Center in Shipshewana IN. This is a museum, education centre and excellent source for books, which gives you a great walk-through experience of Anabaptist history from the beginning in 1525. We are almost 500 years old!
I think several of these resources show or have maps of where the Amish are located, and I believe they now live in 32 or 33 states plus a few provinces of Canada, and a few in Latin America. There might be a Beachy Amish congregation in Ireland, I’m not sure. But when I used to get The Budget newspaper, there were a few international columns. Hopefully this helps someone find the information they want! Enjoy!💙🌻
Thanks for making this video! I'm looking forward to part 2 once it's ready!
i yope you get t he sencond video out soon, I would love to see a map of the LCMS locations across America.
No fault of yours, but the map of Primitive Baptist churches shows two locations in California that no longer exist. One was in Los Angeles proper and the other was in the Imperial Valley.
If you consider ethnicity, a number of things become clear. At one point, Detroit was the largest "Polish city" after Warsaw and Chicago was not far behind. Lots of Scandinavians live in the Upper Peninsulas of Michigan and lots of Swedes and Norwegian live in Minnesota. Germans were big in Iowa, Pennsylvania and a few other places. Look to where the Irish, Italian and Hispanics are common and you will find their ethnic religion. And if you look to the home of the biggest non-Christian religion (founder Smith rejected Christianity), Utah, you will find very few markers on your map.
As a pastor in the Converge Church, your North Dakota map needs a little update. There are only three of our churches here as of 2023. I believe that you have an older map. There are two churches towards Fargo then the one in the Southern Middle of the map.
Great video. How did you decide which churches to include? I was surprised to see some very large ones but I don’t think I saw churches like Assemblies of God or Foursquare (maybe I missed that section?). I enjoyed it greatly but I’m guessing this isn’t just the largest denominations. Do you plan to do more videos with the other denominations?
*edit* just listened again… thanks for answering my questions at the end. 😅
Apparently, the modern Church of the Nazarene were often called the "First Pentecostals" because they were Pentecostal before they were cool.
I think they're the last large example of a "vanilla" Holiness church that didn't join the Pentecostals when they came along or swing back to identifying as mainstream "Methodist."
I’m not sure why he didn’t show just all the Catholic Churches as they‘re all one unified body, unless it would just be too cluttered and over populated on that size map.
I don't know of such a map, but if you find one, let me know! It has to be able to show all the Catholic churches in the US at once.
Originally, I'm from Grand Rapids, MI and we have a very prominent "Bible Belt" in our state. The area from Holland, Zeeland, Grand Rapids, and many of the suburbs of Grand Rapids is heavily populated with faithful. So, go back and look closely at Grand Rapids, MI and there is more presence of the various denominations than not.
Also a relatively large population of Orthodox Christians in Grand Rapids.
Yeah I’m always surprised it’s not mentioned more. The theological diversity is insane, about everyone is represented around here, but it does get very reformed centric the more west you go
I'd like to see a video on the Reformed Episcopal Church.
So would I.
Thank you for your hard work. Did I miss the Fundamental Independent Baptist Church?
There is no map of IFB churches. I just collected maps that exist, I didn't make them. Hopefully someday!
Presbyterians?
Viewers from the Dakotas are really feeling neglected 😂
Noticed on several maps had different colored pins for the same denomination. If time allows might be interesting to explain what that represents in maybe 1-2 maps.
Usually they represent different Dioceses or other kind of Church regions that are somewhat administratively autonomous at certain extent.
Check out Glenmary maps. Been doing it for many years.
Btw, do you know how small the Latin Mass groups are?
Every diocese offers a Latin Mass . Most cannot justify offering two Latin Masses due to lack of interest🤷♂️
*i go to IBMSB (the Irreverent Black Mass of Satanic Baptists.)* mostly for the music. _JC
An at least partial explanation for the distribution of Wesleyan and Free Methodist churches is that they were originally formed in the mid 1800s by people who took a more firm anti-slavery stance than did the Methodist Episcopal Church and they became established mostly in paces where people opposing slavery were moving.
Lutherans ignored :(
Bismarck ND has at least 5 Catholic churches. Mandan has at least 2. A lot of German American parishoners.
What about Hawaii and Alaska?
The Polish National Catholic Churches were founded where there was a big Polish Community. It was founded in Scranton Pa
But only a small percentage of Poles followed this denomination.
The priest who started the PNCC, the parish that he was the first priest in the Scranton diocese is still a real catholic church.
Thank you, Brother Joshua.🌹⭐🌹
Oh yeah, there are Vineyards all over the place here in Southwest and Central Ohio.
Can you account for small communion churches that run out of houses or don't have built churches?
Both the Churches I go to in NZ (one Anglician and one Rātana) don't have google map churches but move around to houses, or using other Church's halls.
Surely America with all it's small towns and minority communities has thousands of such churches?
That would be cool. But it seems like it would difficult to classify such churches. Although, potentially a web portal could be used to allow them to self-classify.
There are so many you would still expect only a small number.
1:150 anglicans h8 women _JC
This video makes me wonder why where I live is called the Bible Belt and why it isn’t up in the Northeast to the Great Lakes. It looks like there are a lot more church options than there are here in Arkansas.
Hey brother i do like watching your streams HOWEVER WHY DONT you mention ANYTHING about your closest neighbor?? To the north buddy. Alberta for instance is the bible belt of Canada. We have all the denominations you have. Thx