These are Rare! You Haven't Seen a US Poncho Liner like this Before - Next Generation Woobie Blanket
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The US Military Poncho Liner has for years stayed virtually the same with very few changes....that was the case until recently when a major modification was made and a zipper was added!
This is a first look at the US Military Zippered Poncho Liner and folks, it's better than ever! Also, I go over somer repairs that I made to the used liner that I picked up on eBay.
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The Updated US Military Zippered Poncho Liner / Woobie Blanket
What it is : Last week I put up my review of the US Military Poncho Liner, AKA The Woobie Blanket - the version without the zipper - this video is going to focus on the zippered version which I mentioned I would be getting in soon.
For the most part, this is the exact same poncho liner; it can be used in all of the same ways with the exception being this - this version features a zipper that goes around the body of the blanket. When zippered it creates a sleeping bag of sorts.
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Rarity : Locating a legit military surplus poncho liner with a zippered body isn’t all that easy - they aren’t available on the civilian market like the traditional, non-zippered model. Very limited supply and limited number of sellers.
Price : When I purchased this poncho liner, I located it for sale on eBay and I paid $32 for it and that included free shipping. The condition was Grade D.
The grading scale is simple; A is best & that would be like new.
D is bad and F is terrible with everything else in between.
When I purchased this, the seller that Ihave linked to only had Grade D liners but at the time of filming this video, they have B, C and D
Grade B’s were listed for $100.
Weight :
1lb 10.2oz
Measurements Unfolded :
88” long - 64” wide
Measurements Zippered :
88” long - 32”
Measurements Compressed :
12” long x 6”
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Info :
The poncho liner is part of a wet weather System; the poncho liner was designed to work with the US military poncho as an insulation layer but can be used by itself in numerous ways.
Blanket - protective cover - sleeping bag and so on.
Colors : With this specific zippered poncho liner, I have only seen this available in a digital woodland; it may be available in other patterns but I haven’t seen them myself. The traditional version can be found in digital woodland, the Army’s universal combat pattern, USAF’s Environmental Camo and so on.
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My thoughts comparing this zippered poncho liner to the traditional model;
I much prefer the zipper and having the ability to make this into a true sleeping bag. You could do that with the traditional model but since it couldn’t be zippered it wasn’t quite as warm.
This newer version retains all of the benefits of the traditional with no sacrifices from my perspective.
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Condition of the Liner :
I mentioned that I purchased this liner in a graded D condition and that’s exactly what I received. It featured a large size hole that went all the way through and the zipper was almost broken. Luckily it was repairable and I was able to correct the issues to my satisfaction with an iron-on polyester patch - once it was in place, I went around the patch with my wife’s sewing machine. I also repaired the zipper as well as I could by hand and have re-enforced it. It’s nice and smooth and should be usable for years to come.
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Variants :
Before I say goodbye, I’ve mentioned in my review of the traditional poncho liner that there are many companies out there who make variants of this product; some make replicas while others have a product that is loosely based upon the original military spec. The products that are loosely based on the mil spec are known as “Styles”
- US Military Poncho Liner “Style”
One has to be careful when purchasing a product like this as there are a lot of companies who are willing to do and say anything to make a sale. They may even go as far as saying that a product is legit military surplus when that isn’t accurate or true at all.
I recently got in one of these military style poncho liners with a zipper and I will have a video up next week discussing it and how it’s different.
I can tell you this much, it is very interesting!!! The Differences may shock you.
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Pro tip. If it's a USMC digital woodland pattern you can verify it by looking over the pattern closely , you should see little tiny eagle globe and anchors with USMC underneath them. 🦅🌎⚓
Is that the case with the tarps? I thought that was only something they printed on the marpat uniforms and ILBE packs.
@@orion3253 Tarps and poncho liner doesnt have it.
That seems like it would be cool to see in person especially if you weren’t even aware of that being a thing
I'd say Ukrainian should start collecting Russian military gear and start selling them on Ebay. UKRAINIAN can start recoup financial loss from Putin's stupidity.
I agree putin is deranged
Yeah but first war needs to be stopped, if that happens hopefully soon then there will be a ton of gear left over from russians
Pretty sure now isn't the time to start promoting anything Russian.
Let’s just cancel it. 😂
@@Dark_Templar28 It's canceling itself. 😂
@@SwedeSpeeder Are we allowed to say it’s “Eastern European” and be good w it?
The Canadian Military woobie has a zipper and a neck hole with a zipper. Love it! Recently i purchased the Snugpak jungle blanket and had a zipper installed on it. It’s a little thicker than the woobie and I love the colour!
Yes! The Canadian one is awesome. I was also looking at the jungle blanket but I think while spending money I’ll just get the swagman roll. The newest version is supposed to be awesome
Where can I buy the Canadian army woobie with the zipper?
I believe the original reason for the one with no zipper was to get out of it quickly. You originally had only the snaps of the poncho to hold the bag semi-closed. Once you tied the original liner into the poncho and used both as a sleeping bag in a combat zone, you might need to get out of it in a hurry.
Wouldn't be hard to retro fit the old one with some rivet snaps. Hell even buttons 🤔
No way......everyone knows the war stops at sundown and doesn't start again until everyone has had a hot breakfast the next morning
@@Zawfee Snaps are the best way to go IMO so it can interface with the poncho. Rather than having to tie down every grommet, you snap everything in place or rip it off if you aren't using the poncho to sleep but as a wet weather layer.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj I meant actual modern buttons like the OD green ones. If you have it set up right you can rip a blouse off very quickly without tearing any buttons off
Maybe lay off the Russian kit for the moment, not a popular theme this side of the pond right now. Varusteleka is sending some of their stock over to assist the Ukrainian army (I know you're a fan of theirs, rightly so), I'm not sure I want to watch a video showing how well equipped the opposition are.
Doesn't bother me. It'll be old stuff anyways unless he's using their latest and greatest gear and from what I've seen, it certainly is some good quality gear, but it sure isn't cheap.
I'd also recommend to highly research why Ukraine and Russia are at war. I've learned some things that make sense why Russia doing what they are doing, but the media will always make a country like Russia to be the bad guy since we had the cold war. I'm not saying I support Russia in what they are doing, as both countries have dirty hands.
I dunno... I mean, I've had a 50 degree sleeping bag for years, it's almost identical in form and function.
I have a MARPAT Poncho liner and I love it. As far as the Russian surplus gear…..there seems to be a lot of recently used stuff in Ukraine now, grades D-F though.
Only used once, may have some slight damage from an encounter with a Javelin missile.
Some bullet holes may be present...
I loved my poncho liner! ( never called it a woobie) I was issued the OD green ones, (Alice pack was OD green as well, but the "steel pot" cover was woodland. LOL)
I used that ponco liner more than the old mummy bag.
I think I may have used it once with the poncho.😁
Unfortunately I lost it in a house fire, and just never replaced it.
Still got my original basic issue field jackets and both liners though.
Can't wait to see the knock off comparrison!
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I've got a new zippered usmc woobie a few years ago, when it was just newly issued in the usmc and since than it basically goes wherever I go. I use it for camping, take it out on dayhikes, as a summer sleeping bag, for traveling or simply on the sofa. I love that thing. It was the best 50 dollars I've ever invested in outdoor gear.
Thanks Luke. These things were already hard enough to find in good shape, and barely affordable too. LAY OFF THE MILITARY SURPLUS VIDS ALREADY!!!
Dont forget nato forces also have thes. Like dutch and german and french.
And we have them in uk forces too, but they are not the same little bit wider and squarer normLy with mtp cambos.
Just my opinion, but the only good use for ANYTHING Russian is as fire fuel.
The difference in insulation could well be how much the two have been used comparatively. Polyester batting isn't known for retaining its loft over time.
I prefer my Wiggy's insulated poncho (about the same price as zippered poncho liners) over my surplus poncho liner. Theirs has snaps around the perimeter along with an insulated hood. The Lamilite made from Climashield also holds up better than polyester batting.
Dude the Wiggy”s poncho is amazing! I don’t own one but have a good buddy that does and he brings it fishing almost every time. Cold mornings the p.o.s. is warmer than us and let’s us know about it. Then he usually takes it off once sun breaks and doesn’t have to remove his waders.
I want one lol
@@oak8728 I bought some of Wiggys waders too. Great for stream crossings without fiddling with the footwear you have on, especially in winter.
@@oak8728 “P.o.s.” Lol
Still haven't added a head hole so you can wear it with the poncho...that's a major upgrade that it could use.
That's why I like my swagman roll so much more.
Shame the swagman is so pricey.
Buy once cry once? Quality is always better
@hectic6981 Your local fabric seamstress could alter yours for a fair price, i’d guess.
I feel like my dad had something like this when I was a kid in the early 90’s. He was in the army & I’d sleep/cuddle with it on the couch all the time.. it was a different camo print though. Maybe it was just a sleeping bag.. but I remember all the random ties everywhere
Poncho liner with the field jacket liner and liner pants...I stayed nice and warm.
Sportsman's Guide keeps selling the Brooklyn Armed Forces knock-off as genuine US surplus. buyer beware. I've been sold knock-off items from Sportsman's Guide for the last time.
Brooklyn Armed Forces is a brand that follows the mil-spec standards and materials but assembled and produced in overseas to cheapen the price. They're quite decent in quality in terms of mil-spec authenticity, alot better than some brands that doesn't even follow the mil-spec.
I just got my first one, it is amazing. Should have got one years ago. Living in Europe, I ended up with a Spanish surplus one in their M09 pixelated woodland pattern
The guys at Brooklyn Armed Forces are the same dudes working for FRHQ who went to jail for selling counterfeit items to the US Military.
I've tried to find out who the hell "Brooklyn Armed Forces" is, can't find anything credible to show they're a real company selling real stuff issued to troops. Sounds like a scam to me, won't be buying any. Sportsman's Guide is pushing it as real.
I live in the smokey mountains. I love my zippered woobie. I have a total of 5 woobies but my zippered one is by far my favorite. Best $30 i spent
I´m proud i buy one on ebay germany for 30 €, she is used and in ACU AT Digital Camo, but better then nothing. It´s not easy to get the USMC Camo stuff in germany or it is expensive...
Thank you
Megoha Hamburg
Tell me you have the Russian hammock tent, I love mine.
Damn out of stock. I kept my U.S. Army one when I retired back in ‘14. Always use it on camping trips
Nice! The Dutch Marines here had the zipper version a couple of years now......used one in good condition is around 30 euro..
Hey Luke ordered myself one without the zipper after the video the other day. The one I ordered is military issued used grade 2 has minor wear. Just waiting for it to come in thanks for video on it👍 Stay safe out there.
Now if only it had a zippered head hole in the centre like our Canadian one, so you can literally line your poncho while wearing it 😉
I’m still looking at getting a swagman roll, while spending money might as well get that 🤷🏼♀️
I discovered these last year and they're great! I've combined this and a Swagman Roll for my hammock camping and it's working out well.
Ranger Rick used to sell a conversion kit that had a sleeping bag zipper and one for a head hole. The tailor i used also put gutted Paracord in one end so it could be snugged down and hold in more heat. US CAVALRY many years ago sold thinsulate versions of poncho liners and m-65 liners. They claimed they were as warm as two liners worn together.
I bought a new one last year from USA $100 shipped to UK England, I had to pay duties so in the end the cost was £100,
This is my 5th one which I got on Excersise with American Airborne in the early 80s
That thing is HUGE for what it does. Mountaineering tech has come a long way and as a former 11B30 Infantryman, I can assure you that the gear OUR...'boots on the ground grunts' get issued has ALWAYS been sub-par with something you could replace it with from the outside world. Our nylon rain ponchos were worthless compared to the rubber-coated ones they replaced and then they replaced our inflatable and comfortable 'rubber lady' air-mattress in the mid-80s with foam pads that everyone hated and don't even get me started on how often a meticulously maintained M-16 will jam on you. 🤨 Also, most of the quality body armor our U.S. troops have worn in Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan was paid for and mailed to them by their families stateside. The politicians really don't care as much as they would like you to believe at election time.
Wiggy’s makes a zippered poncho liner. It’s expensive, but has a heavy duty zipper and a stuff sack.
I think it's hilarious that the knockoff has an NSN.. Nato Stock Number. (I'm a former Supply Tech).
Bought a good used think it was sweedish poncho from a surplus store. Kinda looked like same colors. It would fit over a seabag whatever you were carrying. Alot of sutplus stores today really dont have much good used stuff. Or just some knockoff. I want military grade
Apparently your following is great enough to where me viewing this video 7 hours after it being posted, everything's gone, all gone, everything's out of stock
My credit card company would like to thank you personally for helping to give them more of my money due to your awesome gear review videos. I just got a new MARPAT poncho liner, MARPAT tarp, and the Improved Bivy. After watching your reviews, I decided to inspect my original Ranger Roll and discovered that it was time for some newer, lighter gear. Keep up the good work.
THOSE ARE NOT RARE AT MY HOUSE LUKE! LOL.. THEY ARE TOUGH, I LOVE THEM. REALLY HAVE TO SHOP AROUND AS THEY CAN GET EXPENSIVE. WATCHING THIS VIDEO, I JUST GOT THE ZIPPERED PONCHO. WHY? I TRUST YOU. YOU HAVE NEVER STEERED ME WRONG. THUMBS UP!!!
it looks like father and son 1:05
You can authenticate if the Ponch Liner is genuine, It will have the USMC Badge/Logo printed into the Marpat Patten
Sad you mentioned Russian gear, and Putin can not even equip his soldiers with gear in the war against Ukraine. Maybe they will have better learned that selling all their stuff off through the black market this will be a tough lesson learned and have better accountability of their assets
I have a grade A one from the 1980s. It bought it at the AAFES Military Clothing sales while in the Army. I regret not buying the poncho, the wet weather jacket and pants.
The item you have is known as the All purpose liner or APL. So called as it is not just a liner for the poncho but also a liner for the USMC 3S Sleeping bag and adds up to an extra 9 Degrees Fahrenheit to the temperature range of the 3S. The zipper is the most obvious improvement but not so obvious is the improved batting,made by Climashield, and the DWR coating on the Camo side to improve water resistance.And yes the US Army is introducing the APL in OCP Camo AFAIK,
What theyve done there is cunningly converted a poncho liner into a standard cheap sleeping bag...
Grade D is currently 22.99$...Grade C is 39.99$..Grade B sold out
I never did care for poncho liners........just use the patrol sleeping bag.
when we gona see the forclaz
men's symbium rucksack from decathlon ?
I added a comment to a video from a year ago. You may not get it. Just want to say how much I appreciate your survival videos. Especially in these uncertain times. Thank You for your teachings.
Could you do a video on how you search for authentic military surplus on eBay. Thanks
Interesting how fast you deleted the information I posted earlier about the Woobie...!
No, im not going to watch russian gear nonsense and most important I'm very disappointing you paid $ for it - it's like sending money to russia.
What's the fleece/wool top you're wearing? Looks great - and warm!
As of right now Grade B's were being sold for $50 USD on Ebay.
Thanks mate
Good review
Honest character
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Would have loved to buy one. The only genuine woobie seller won't send to Australia 😞
Luke, the Usaf and USA both use OCP-2 multi cam now
How does it compare to the snugpak jungle bag/blanket?
That Russian gear isn't going to have a bunch of Ukranian bullet holes in it, will it?
Old news European version has had zipper for years.
German Flecktarn / Wüstentarn ... Mil tec ( Sturm ) ... MFH ( Max Fuchs ) , Anton Böchel
私も訓練でジッパー付きを使いました。全身を覆うことができるし、撥水性もあるため野外での仮眠に最適でした。
There's not a chance in Hell I'd buy one with any holes. Screw that.
Great stuff as always brother. I'm curious about the Russian military surplus gear you'll be using and how well it works. Strength and Honor my friend.
Does it have ties on both sides of the zipper? Or can it only be tied off, only one way?
please review the camppal 1 person tent & the closet nature 1 person tent please
Use to see this modified version at Fort Bragg back in the 90’s
Wouldn't buy anything from Russia
How about China?
Buying 'Chinese' is a HUGE problem.
Zipper is cool but it will fail at some point and you will be back to a regular woob
Laying here in bed, watching the video, covered up with a poncho liner.
Hmm… I think I will stick with my Helikon Tex Swagman Role. Little more expensive put than brand new and more bang for bucks.
Good video. As yours always are. Thank you.
none for sale now will check out the Canadian one, I have a dutch one with poncho love that.
The comfort temp rating for a woobie at 2lbs is nowhere near worth the weight.
Now these poncho liners are being sold on Ebay, with the same spec as issued with the batting upgraded to Climashield, they're selling under brand name Pinnacle Mercantile. It's the same poncho liner manufactured by the same company, Winston-Salem Industries; Pinnacle Mercantile is just the distributor.
Apparently it's the same poncho liner with the batting upgraded to Climashield and the shell color changed to OCP. Bit pricey but seems good stuff.
Also Amazon.
Hey there, could you do an updated video on how you load your packs?
That’s a Marine poncho liner. Not a woobee!
I have the same one, all though it's more faded like your no zipper one. One thing you forgot to say is that when it's zipperd you can pull it open and it will unzip without pulling the string and wont get get stuck. It was made that way incase of an emergency.
Mine is type C
Thanks - very informative !
Got the last one. Thanks for the heads up as I had not seen the zippered version! It will be nice for the next field exercise!
Mine came in OD green with a zipper. Zero damage.
UK Army Jungle Bag.
Where can I get a jacket like the one you're wearing 🤔
Haven't seen my name in the wolf pack in a while.
The supplier is out of stock already.
not the same size, will not stretch, why lie?
A Woobie - the fighting man's blankey
Does the zipper bother you at all?
Get you really good one buy you a swagman roll.
I bought one two years ago. Has the usmc logo right in the camo pattern. Love it.
Does anyone know who the outro music is?
How the f do you wear it under poncho
Already out of stock haha
Let’s see some Grey Shop gear.
Solders have been putting zippers and neck holes in them since the 70's. Most sewing shops around an Army base have at least 2 shops that put in zippers. My 1984 liner had zippers put in for $18, which was a lot for a my privates and my wife.
Mine is a military surplus zippered that's a bit faded around the chest, bright everywhere else. Grade B I guess? Paid 50 bucks, no holes or other issues, just the chest height fading. I can tell you all if you're eyeing one, you will NOT regret the purchase...I love mine. It's multi use AF, I use it at home a lot, sometimes as a light blanket on my bed, or zipping it up and napping in it while in my recliner. Good wrap around layer when you're a bit cold too. It's outdoors uses are known, but you should know it's quite versatile indoors as well.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
I was warned on another forum to stay away from the " FIVE STAR PONCHO LINER" that has a zipper, bad quality. Thx for the vid
That's new? It looks the same what we were issued USMC. I could be wrong, but I liked it, gave an extra cushion and warmth. And when it rain... kinda sucked but in the cold, it's your best friend.
Sold out on link as of this post.
together with poncho you can make an emergency sleeping bag, tie off in all four holes, snap poncho together ,forming a make shift bag.
That's true but the zipper version retains more body heat
Yep its called the ranger roll
I just received 2 of these ----- USMC Issue MARPAT Poncho Liner with Zipper ---- My wife and I are both impressed ---- thanks for all the great tips and vids! These were less than 40 each and like new!