Yngwie Malmsteen's Thoughts on Grunge Music - Fire & Ice Era

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  • @timotheeeful
    @timotheeeful 4 месяца назад +375

    "I don't slag people off...they can't even play". I love Yngwie.

    • @jono_young_music
      @jono_young_music 3 месяца назад +11

      Factual though 😂

    • @chevy4x466
      @chevy4x466 2 месяца назад +5

      That punk is a good analogy. Musicianship should matter, but much of the public don’t care

    • @ctusser
      @ctusser 2 месяца назад +11

      @@chevy4x466, exactly, Yngwie lacks musicianship. Granted he’s a technical master and a pioneer of neoclassical, but he’s a one man show with one speed and a band built around him. I’ve never seen him really groove in a nuanced way with other musicians in a complementary way. He lacks musicianship.

    • @mr.e1026
      @mr.e1026 2 месяца назад +4

      If we needed someone to objectively say "they can't play", it's Yngwie.
      But I get what he's saying. He's a lot more charitable that I am. Grunge is just pure shit on a CD. The music is shit, just like Yngwie said in a much nicer way that I am, the lyrics are nonsense, and this is coming from a hard-core Death Metal fan from the '80's. I can even understand why some people weren't big fans of, say, Slayer and Megadeth, but not once had I ever heard anyone read the lyrics of any of their songs and say "what the fuck does that even mean?!" Later in the '90's and 2000's I gravitated toward Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir because '80's metal had its run, and ultimately died, with only the strongest of the bands moving on.

    • @JimboSlicePFC
      @JimboSlicePFC Месяц назад +4

      ​@ctusser so I guess you never saw G3.

  • @metalpalace
    @metalpalace 8 месяцев назад +222

    That was the best answer ever. He managed to be both honest and respectful

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x 2 месяца назад +3

      You’re joking, right? Dave Ghrol was in one of the most popular grunge bands of the 90s and he can literally play every instrument, while singing. To classify him as a “non musician” is not just wrong, it’s insane.

    • @pseudosaur
      @pseudosaur 2 месяца назад +5

      Except for when he said they can't really play, and he doesn't know why they should be able to make records. Well they can't play only your level, but neither could any of the Beatles on their respective instruments (meaning none of them were/are virtuoso), but damn did they write great songs.

    • @THEMMASOYRU
      @THEMMASOYRU Месяц назад +1

      ​@@pseudosaurPaul's recognized as one of the best bass players/ bass line writers of all time though.

    • @dartaband3110
      @dartaband3110 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@pseudosaurYou forgot that Yngwie could not play them either! Yngwie for the irony of himself, cant play anything except his music which is super boring and its always the same scale the sam type of playing. Bl bl bl bl.bl over, the end. Then next song - the same thing once again, same scale same "start on the 3rd fret finish on the 18th fret with the same bending...LOL. He cant even play blues properly just listen his "blues" album lol.He had that lunatic urge to show us "he could shred very fast" even on the slow blues tracks...Thats not bkues its some malignant cancer version of neoclassical metal-blues "music". He cant play Sstriani, he cant play Vai he cant play EVH, he cant olay Hendrix, Gilmour Mark Knopfler or Gary Moore. HE always wanted to play like his idol Richie Blackmore, but he cant have that tone also. He is just a one trick pony, neovlassical shredding with one scale and one type of picking with one bending at the end of his always the same runs.He cant even play his own songs properly live, he cant remember notes so he is saying "he is improvising" LOL and thats a very stupid and funny EXCUSE! And he could be very sloppy live sometimes with a bunch of the noise.

    • @e32b61
      @e32b61 27 дней назад +1

      @@5urg3xYou’re talking about Grohl with the hindsight of 30+ years of experience. 1992 was a different beast.

  • @MrMetalhorse
    @MrMetalhorse Год назад +788

    If only young Yngwie knew it was going to get WAAAAAAAAY worse. Lol

    • @joeakajoe1
      @joeakajoe1 11 месяцев назад +24

      well, he knows now

    • @jorgepb6276
      @jorgepb6276 11 месяцев назад +4

      WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY indeed!!! 😂🤣

    • @llluuuyyyooo
      @llluuuyyyooo 11 месяцев назад +22

      Now its not grunge, its trap😱

    • @KevinGsWK
      @KevinGsWK 10 месяцев назад +6

      Ain't no way ppl are agreeing with yngwie

    • @ThinWhiteLuke
      @ThinWhiteLuke 10 месяцев назад +19

      @@KevinGsWKdepends on what specifically he said. Grunge really was similar to the aggression and release of frustration of late 70s early 80s punk rock, and that’s cool. But compared to Yngwie they can’t play 😂 that’s not even an insult, just a fact. What is there to disagree with here?

  • @johndardi1334
    @johndardi1334 11 месяцев назад +319

    I saw Yngwie in a small club in North Carolina back in the early nineties. It was unbelievably loud and seeing him shred it up standing feet away from me was one of the most unforgettable experiences I’ve ever had in my life. All I could think of was how can anyone get that good? He was scary good.

    • @keithRR2023
      @keithRR2023 11 месяцев назад +26

      Watching him live is like being in another dimension

    • @catherinelevine4246
      @catherinelevine4246 11 месяцев назад +13

      I saw him and Glenn Hughes recently in a small venue in New York and he still shreds the same it was incredible seeing them that close

    • @tomcruise9815
      @tomcruise9815 11 месяцев назад +7

      Saw him in a small club in Jacksonville in the early 90’s. Awesome show!

    • @Yngsatchvai
      @Yngsatchvai 11 месяцев назад +9

      Saw his Fire & Ice tour at Purple Gator Myrtle Beach S.C. 91 I think.
      Total bad ass!!!

    • @johnmcminn9455
      @johnmcminn9455 10 месяцев назад +4

      I had to look twice to see if I wrote that
      .lol nothing like seeing YJM front row
      I was looking at the interplay between the drummer and bass and yngwie kept coming over to our section hitting notes from every angle my buddy says yngwie keeps coming over here.
      It's like he needs to know the audience is watching his every move
      So he will rip it up even more.

  • @the_best1910
    @the_best1910 Год назад +730

    Lol this is accurate for today's music more than the grunge era

    • @tcar3654
      @tcar3654 Год назад

      This video was made to point out how much of an asshole Malmsteen is

    • @tcar3654
      @tcar3654 Год назад +32

      @@lazman5516 Soundgarden and Alice were great

    • @AslansAngel1
      @AslansAngel1 Год назад +2

      I just said that same thing and then saw your comment. Agreed

    • @alangary9893
      @alangary9893 Год назад +13

      ​@@lazman5516They are alright bands but Sound Garden cant cimpare to Deep Purple ,or Malmsteen

    • @stefanomeloncelli1987
      @stefanomeloncelli1987 11 месяцев назад +1

      True

  • @JPR17
    @JPR17 10 месяцев назад +20

    There is something I've always like about Yngwie. He is really not trying to be malicious, in fact he is trying to be as respectful and polite as his personality allows him to be lol. I kinda understand his point. Imagine practicing 8 hours per day, sacrificing time of your youth and then comes someone who plays only chords and sells an amount that he hasn't been able to achieve yet. Most be upsetting. The thing he doesn't realize is that he is a different kind of artist. He is a performer and a virtuoso. The other one is an artistic soul who probably spent only a few hours practicing and has no interest at all in other than expressing himself and reprresent the voice of a minority and for that, he only needs to know a few chords and some basic knowledge. Two entirely different things. One has what the other doesn't have. As simple as that.

  • @brandon_945
    @brandon_945 2 месяца назад +5

    They asked, he answered. Simple as that. It’s his opinion. I personally think he was spot on

  • @jonathaneckstrom2727
    @jonathaneckstrom2727 Год назад +313

    Yngwie is a guitarists guitarist. He's at the very top of the food chain. Same league as Randy Rhoades EVH Satriani. Master Yngwie!

    • @zervver
      @zervver Год назад +33

      Above those, when it comes to skills alone.

    • @beenay18
      @beenay18 Год назад +32

      Yngwie overshadows the guitarists you mentioned in every way.

    • @T0mat0_S0up
      @T0mat0_S0up Год назад +5

      @@lazman5516Reality is harsh. I know

    • @T0mat0_S0up
      @T0mat0_S0up Год назад +9

      @@lazman5516 I was talking about you. You pretty much proved my point.

    • @adanrodriguez911
      @adanrodriguez911 Год назад +18

      You can’t compare them in every sense, why? Because Randy Rhoads built the infrastructure for some of the most epic songs in metal. For example Mr. Crowley, crazy train. Eddie Van Halen took shredding to a whole different level.

  • @louissanderson719
    @louissanderson719 8 месяцев назад +62

    I like it when he said “slag people off”. He’s been around Brits

    • @itsisk2043
      @itsisk2043 6 месяцев назад +8

      In fact it's swedish: slagg av. 😅

    • @marcillioficino4663
      @marcillioficino4663 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yep. Love that British slang.

    • @2hi2dye
      @2hi2dye 2 дня назад

      Are you takin a piss?

  • @MusiciansIgnite
    @MusiciansIgnite 10 месяцев назад +38

    Surprisingly fair and decent take from Yngwie!

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      You're kidding, right?

    • @driller7714
      @driller7714 Месяц назад

      I don’t slag people off as he slags people off. 🤔

    • @blindsidedka
      @blindsidedka 7 дней назад

      You're a bit dim aren't you.

  • @andymullarx6365
    @andymullarx6365 2 года назад +67

    Classic Yngwie.

  • @lorddeathspit1124
    @lorddeathspit1124 29 дней назад +3

    Nirvana had great song writing and decent musicianship, Yngwie has great musicianship and decent song writing.

  • @starblazer5178
    @starblazer5178 Месяц назад +5

    Music for the masses has always been simple and easy to play. That why it appeals to the masses.

  • @channelx92
    @channelx92 2 года назад +56

    He is a guitar virtuoso plain and simple.

    • @santosmadrigal3702
      @santosmadrigal3702 9 дней назад

      Grunge is so depressing . It's all about " nobody cares , nobody understands " . A few songs came out , and it was well done . But then everyone followed suit.

  • @commondog3956
    @commondog3956 6 месяцев назад +21

    I'm 37 and discovered a love for rock/punk/grunge/noiserock and such at maybe 13 and discovered a love of Yngwie at 18. I still love both but it's much more fun to play noise-rock and grungy punk stuff for me and then at home, I might play some classical guitar.
    Music is amazing.

    • @urzathehappy72
      @urzathehappy72 5 месяцев назад

      Get a diary

    • @commondog3956
      @commondog3956 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@urzathehappy72 I have a journal but thanks for the input, I guess.

    • @NicHeuwGuitar
      @NicHeuwGuitar 4 месяца назад +2

      @commondog3956 This. Absolutely agree with you, embracing different genres really enrich our lives. It's totally fine to only like one specific genre, but to be able to listen to more perspectives and enjoy more different kinds of music is a big bonus.

    • @ministryofanti-feminism1493
      @ministryofanti-feminism1493 Месяц назад

      Making high quality music takes discipline, and discipline isn't 'fun'.

  • @RNicolasRuvalcaba
    @RNicolasRuvalcaba 25 дней назад +2

    The irony is, all of the great composers that Yngwie idolizes so much, such as Bach, Paganini, Vivaldi, etc would say the exact same thing about him. There's no denying that he's insanely talented and I love what he does, but most Rock fans can't comprehend that Yngwie's music is simplistic in comparison to the music that he's influenced by.

  • @3moons29
    @3moons29 Месяц назад +3

    In the words of Ritchie Blackmore “selling more records doesn’t make you better….” - you’re a legend Mr! Brag it , you can and know how to play your instrument. I mean Play in every sense of the word!

  • @ronniep9272
    @ronniep9272 Год назад +12

    It was only Nirvana who played very basic music. The guitarists in Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains and Soundgarden were good and played just as many solos as in hair bands.

    • @dashiellsisson9263
      @dashiellsisson9263 10 месяцев назад +9

      I wouldn’t call Nirvana “basic music.” Just because his guitar parts are easy to play doesn’t make it basic. The melodies and chromaticism in his progressions are totally unique and create very interesting harmonies and lead to unpredictable resolutions, modulations and cadences.

    • @cocoloco65482
      @cocoloco65482 4 месяца назад

      TRUE

    • @one80srocker89
      @one80srocker89 2 месяца назад +1

      Alice In Chains started out good as did Pearl Jam as did the 90s. 90, 91, 92 were basically 3 more years of the 80s. But it wasn’t just Grunge that was the dumbed down music taking precedent. Alternative was too. But it was hard to differentiate what was Grunge and what was alternative. And some of what would be General Rock was probably lumped in there. Better Than Ezra had about 3 good songs. Good basic Rock but no better than any local bar band. Everckearwas way overrated! Good for a one hit wonder and a follow up single. But the 90s didn’t gift us with a Led Zeppelin or a Van Halen. There weren’t masterpieces being written in the 90s. Even the Metal, I mean, what was the Metal then? Marilyn Manson?! Metallica was the perfect example of the lost direction of 90s music.
      When you go back into the 80s, 70s, 60, there was music in all forms that everyone could like. The popular music had a lot going on that everyone could like. Not in the 90s though.

    • @ronniep9272
      @ronniep9272 2 месяца назад +1

      @@one80srocker89 Van Halen were just party rock. Jane's addiction had a great guitarist in Dave Navarro and along with The Smashing Pumpkins made eclectic music. I also liked some of Korn's work.

    • @one80srocker89
      @one80srocker89 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ronniep9272 korn had some good stuff. They never made a record that was strong start to finish though. You could pluck songs from each LP but also skip over many. I saw them live and they were very good. Smashing Pumpkins….eeesh! The singer sounds like Eric Cartman from South Park singing. They were one of the bands that made the 90s miserable. VH just party rock? Eddie VH revolutionized the guitar and was responsible for a whole decade of sounds that followed him. The 90s didn’t produce anything remotely close. Those early VH songs were so well constructed. The Sammy years were too commercial as was the second half of the 80s except for much of the Metal. Eddie was still a genius musician during that time. Their live shows with either singer brought lots of energy. They are the best party rock but clearly many cuts above the rest. Dave Navarro, yeah, just not hearing it. James Addiction is another one of those bands that just isn’t that good. They were a name that was out there that was popular during that transitional time between the 80s to the 90s and some kind of new sound. I never cared for them. And certainly don’t hear them as any kind of guitar rock or metal. They aren’t known for riffs. And if Dave Navarro is one of the 90s best then it’s case in point. The guitar player from Rage Against the Machine was unique and had his own sound. Their music just wasn’t all that good. I thought Audioslave was much better than Soundgarden or Rage. But Audioslave was post-90s.
      Even though Ozzy was turning things around with the Ozz-fests, attending these shows was different than going to Metal concerts in the 80s. People were angry. I saw more fights and viscous beatings at these shows every time i went. It was a happier crowd in the 80s. Even at the Metallica shows, I didn’t witness such behavior.

  • @DarcyGibbs
    @DarcyGibbs 11 месяцев назад +63

    Jerry Cantrell enters the chat

    • @ThrowVR
      @ThrowVR 9 месяцев назад +2

      Jerry Cant Relly Play Guitar 😢😂😂😂🎉❤❤❤❤ get it its a funny joke 🤣 😂

    • @dominysynclair
      @dominysynclair 8 месяцев назад +4

      I love Yngwie but AIC was the first thing that popped in my head when he said that.

    • @JeremyPezzeca
      @JeremyPezzeca 7 месяцев назад +1

      Once you learn to play guitar you'll soon realize Jerry Cantrells guitar playing is great for a beginner. It's very eaay to play. You can learn any alice in chains song literally in a few minutes. Without all the other instruments involved In their songs the guitar would not sound good . This is what he means when he says they do what they do very well. They really aren't that talented.

    • @dominysynclair
      @dominysynclair 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@JeremyPezzeca I've been a fan of Yngwie, and a guitarist, since the beginning of his career. Yngwie lives in a bubble though. He's wrong about the Grunge guys not being talented. What is musical talent? To me it's in the writing, and Yngwie first four solo albums and the Alcatrazz years were great, then it got stale. He's an amazing player, but I have to be "in the mood". Whenever AIC comes on the radio in the car, I stop scanning. It's really that simple.

    • @roljavi
      @roljavi 7 месяцев назад

      @@JeremyPezzeca You are an idiot. Grunge bands were creating good songs and had incredible singers and drummers. Saying how they were untalented can say only absolute idiot who never paid attention to actual music.

  • @youztuber5000
    @youztuber5000 Год назад +117

    I love both Yngwie and Nirvana

    • @hellsunicorn
      @hellsunicorn 11 месяцев назад +9

      People listening to music after 1998 could afford to hold this position, but back in 1992-94 when I was in Jr. High and early High School, your social life suffered pretty severely if you listened to Yngwie, let alone tried to like both as I initially did.

    • @sonidamara5018
      @sonidamara5018 11 месяцев назад +4

      They really Can,t play... the guitarist? Nirvana drummer are one of the best drummer in hard rock music. Yngwei talk about other musician n it means the guitarist...😂

    • @ControlledChaos-rk5tk
      @ControlledChaos-rk5tk 11 месяцев назад +1

      This, People love to talk about the 90s, but they fail to realize that 1992 was a very different world to 1998-1999 era.@@hellsunicorn

    • @tahamohammedi5898
      @tahamohammedi5898 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@sonidamara5018 Grohl is a very basic drummer. Nirvana's music itself is incredibly simple and basic

    • @egorsilovs156
      @egorsilovs156 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@PeaceWatcher-ek7zlwell u can talk that way about all bands, Led Zeppelin is just some high pitched moaning with some sloppy bends thrown in, Deep purple is just noisy organ competing with medieval sounding shreddy guitar e.t.c.
      How good they are just comes down to whether you want to listen to their songs over and over, or not. For Nirvana everyone did, and still does. For Yngwie clearly not.

  • @boopah4365
    @boopah4365 7 месяцев назад +12

    I've said the exact same thing about rap.

  • @bipinjungbasnet7799
    @bipinjungbasnet7799 26 дней назад +1

    I love grunge it’s give people rock and roll the better singer’s vocalist guitarist etc

  • @haypayne8937
    @haypayne8937 Год назад +5

    Exactly. Some people , or actually 'most people' cannot even understand the complexity of technically difficult music. Some people are not musically inclined. All good

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian 14 дней назад

    Love him or hate him, he is an absolute legend. Despite all his faults, he's a massive inspiration and influence for me.

  • @theflint7692
    @theflint7692 10 месяцев назад +17

    why can people sell records when they "can't play"? because it's art, it makes people feel something, it's not a playing contest

    • @richardeast3328
      @richardeast3328 4 месяца назад +1

      Oh yeah, it’s all about the “art”. Like the Monkees and the Beatles were both artists.

    • @theflint7692
      @theflint7692 4 месяца назад +4

      I find it actually impossible to determine what the intent of your statement is

    • @richardeast3328
      @richardeast3328 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theflint7692 That’s art for you.

    • @theflint7692
      @theflint7692 4 месяца назад +2

      @@richardeast3328 ha ha. agree

    • @rjva161
      @rjva161 3 месяца назад

      @@theflint7692 to each his own

  • @tonoest
    @tonoest 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love yngwie he can say whatever he wants tbh he is the best🔥

  • @kevincampbell5785
    @kevincampbell5785 11 месяцев назад +12

    I own both Yngwie albums and Grunge albums. I have eclectic musical tastes. Grunge is more influenced by Punk, so they and Yngwie are two different shades on the music spectrum.

  • @felixmartinez5792
    @felixmartinez5792 День назад

    I like Yngwie ... He's cool and real . Respect.

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 Год назад +9

    There's a time and a place for every kind of music. Any musician will tell you that.

  • @thezorba1
    @thezorba1 4 месяца назад +1

    have seen him live twice... nothing has topped it...

  • @makor2817
    @makor2817 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hes right in the point

  • @Lanearndt
    @Lanearndt 8 месяцев назад +2

    100% my thoughts exactly!!

  • @damonn44
    @damonn44 4 месяца назад +2

    Just seen him live 3 days ago, abaolute legend 🤘

  • @nicholaskruger9460
    @nicholaskruger9460 Год назад +4

    I bought his first album. He signed it. And I loved when grunge hit. I was into it. Amazing live shows. Seeing nirvana live three times!!? Seeing all of them. I saw him live in the beginning. It was cool but grunge live was way cooler

  • @KenKellySWFL
    @KenKellySWFL 3 месяца назад +1

    100% right!

  • @mlfilion
    @mlfilion 5 месяцев назад +3

    He doesn't slag people off as he proceeds to slag people off 😂

  • @johnnymata3159
    @johnnymata3159 Год назад +2

    The Fire And Ice Album, A Great Album And A Great Tour! 1992 At A Venue Called Bananas In Santa Ana, Ca.

  • @justinisaacs1811
    @justinisaacs1811 Год назад +14

    The fact is... a very small percentage of people want to hear a masterclass in instruments at all times. We love it. Guitarists who hear or watch it get inspired and can't wait to go home and shred and get faster and better.
    Some musicians are song writers more than instrumentalists.
    And some musicians wrote for people. And most people don't play music. Simple is more relatable. They want something they can sing along to on the way to work, without having to be trained to do so. Nirvana works because people feel like they could be a part of the band.

  • @Drummerjeffkazee
    @Drummerjeffkazee 11 месяцев назад +18

    Just imagine what music Randy would have brought to the table if he lived!!!!

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 4 месяца назад +1

      I think of Alexi Laiho as a possible advancement of Rhoads. Check out his band Children of Bodom.

    • @Ecentric-un6ny
      @Ecentric-un6ny 4 месяца назад

      keyboards

    • @one80srocker89
      @one80srocker89 2 месяца назад

      Well, he would have done just one more album with Ozzy at the most. The way things were going within Ozzy’s band and getting screwed over by Sharon, I don’t imagine the third album would have been able to match what they’d already done. The momentum was there but I think they’d have taken steps backwards. Ozzy and Sharon seemed mostly concerned about getting the rights to the Black Sabbath songs.

    • @Drummerjeffkazee
      @Drummerjeffkazee 2 месяца назад

      Im not talking about with ozzy, i think Randy would've started releasing his own material.

    • @one80srocker89
      @one80srocker89 2 месяца назад

      @@Drummerjeffkazee he said he wanted to go back to school for music. Who knows what kind of material he’d be working on? He expressed his interest in Classical guitar. I agree with you. It’s horrible that someone so gifted is lost so soon. We can only imagine what he’d have delivered to the industry and the soundtracks of our lives through that era. It’s pretty incredible the leaps he made from his days with Quiet Riot.

  • @mattmorgan7583
    @mattmorgan7583 Год назад +2

    Incredible persona

    • @KT-lo4qo
      @KT-lo4qo 4 месяца назад

      what? - he's just being an ass

  • @leogolive
    @leogolive 6 месяцев назад +5

    “I don’t really slag people off” then proceeds to slag people off by saying “I don’t understand how people can sell millions of records and they can’t play” 😂😂😂

  • @TammyCreswell-l7h
    @TammyCreswell-l7h Месяц назад

    I still love Yngwie Malmsteen he'll always be The mastro ❤

  • @Diego_Lemon16
    @Diego_Lemon16 4 месяца назад +4

    He’s right tho, Kurt Cobain was undoubtedly one of the best song writers on this planet. His skill on guitar tho… ehh…

    • @donaldmack2307
      @donaldmack2307 4 месяца назад

      As a nirvana guy and a virtuoso enjoyer... I agree. In the end its all just a distraction and doesnt really matter. To each their own.

  • @reubensane5539
    @reubensane5539 Год назад +1

    I’ll never forget when I bought that first steeler album and heard the guitarist was only 19,is guitarist all said ok we just had Eddie and Randy now make room for Yngwie .
    I used to see him as much as I could back in the day.
    In fact I ran into Bruce Kulick and Eric Carr and two different Yngwie shows in NYC ,they were following him too.

  • @Musicaxis247
    @Musicaxis247 Год назад +4

    Not sure what he’s talking about not being able to play. Jerry Cantrell is an amazing guitarist.
    But i get what what he’s saying. Grunge music isn’t music for someone who likes to shred. That doesn’t make it bad though.

    • @regularjack2
      @regularjack2 Год назад +6

      Yngwie clearly has only a surface view of grunge. Only heard Nirvana and maybe Mudhoney or something. BTW I’d probably liken Kurt Cobain to a Bob Dylan, not technically brilliant at guitar or singing but used them as tools to get his songwriting across. Yngwie is only listenable for about 15 minutes IMO after that all his shit sounds the same (look at how many notes I can play)

  • @utekrause8334
    @utekrause8334 Месяц назад

    I love Yngwie, such a character. Great guitarist too

  • @jokercards8983
    @jokercards8983 Год назад +33

    Yngwie. . Gifted and charismatic

  • @iainmacdonald8099
    @iainmacdonald8099 4 дня назад

    He needs to do a grunge album to stay current !!

  • @greenbean87
    @greenbean87 Год назад +6

    Love his honesty!!❤❤❤

  • @MichaelRei99
    @MichaelRei99 2 месяца назад +1

    I don’t understand how people who can’t play can sell records. Rap enters the room!

  • @dustinsmith9375
    @dustinsmith9375 7 месяцев назад +3

    He doesn’t like donuts either

    • @tussk.
      @tussk. 2 дня назад

      yes he does

  • @christervainio
    @christervainio Год назад +2

    You gotta love the man.😍❤

  • @ChronicMetamorphosis
    @ChronicMetamorphosis 2 года назад +19

    I feel it. I dont slag people off either, but Grunge can be pretty cringe.
    They ought to call it Crunge, or Gringe.

    • @darkriff777
      @darkriff777 2 года назад +3

      Soundgarden is far from cringe.

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 года назад +2

      @@darkriff777 Is Soundgarden grunge? When they put their first album out critics were complaining they were ripping off Led Zep. Btw Thayyil sucks, but Chris Cornell had a good voice and wrote some great tunes!

    • @dmitryowens
      @dmitryowens Год назад +1

      ​@@MrTubularBalls
      Kim Thayil is great - he plays cool unconventional leads and licks.

  • @SweetPappyJones
    @SweetPappyJones 10 месяцев назад +2

    My friend showed me how to play “Come As You Are” on his guitar when I was like 8 years old. Learned it in like five minutes. Fast forward 30 years, mayyybe I could get some Yngwie licks down. Maybe. 😅

  • @riggs9688
    @riggs9688 2 года назад +73

    Donuts

  • @johnnyjohnson1326
    @johnnyjohnson1326 2 месяца назад +1

    Yngwie doesn't get enough love for being the guitar master he is!

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      It's overshadowed by his inefficient songwriting.

  • @nessy9022
    @nessy9022 11 месяцев назад +13

    "I don't really slag people off.......they really can't play" 🙃

    • @terrysmith4889
      @terrysmith4889 10 месяцев назад

      dumb emotional woman. some people in this world SUCK and thats just a fact you big baby.

    • @damianmmx
      @damianmmx 10 месяцев назад +3

      telling the truth is not disrespecting.

    • @nessy9022
      @nessy9022 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@damianmmx "telling the truth..."
      The issue with what you just said, is that if you do believe that Billy Corgan:
      ruclips.net/video/9hYPo2py77A/видео.htmlsi=xFjySmh4OGnpG3JP
      Kim Thayil:
      ruclips.net/video/j6UonQlrh38/видео.html
      Jerry Cantrell:
      ruclips.net/video/TKNSw1W4jvs/видео.html
      Mike McCready:
      ruclips.net/video/-kZsvHl_0ls/видео.html
      Dean Deleo
      ruclips.net/video/N13xnMtBzU0/видео.html
      ..."really can't play guitar" - if you believe that's "the truth" - then that's a problem with your ear.

    • @roljavi
      @roljavi 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@damianmmx Guitar is polyphonic instrument and the guy who is playing it as monophonic or like violin, read: Yngwie Malmsteen, has zero credibility to judge anyone's playing of guitar.

  • @jackburton7483
    @jackburton7483 4 месяца назад +1

    His comparison of grunge to punk was accurate. As a classically trained musician, his incredulity makes sense. There were a lot of punk and grunge bands who could barely play anything other than very simple music. But they were very successful.

    • @ziggyplay
      @ziggyplay 4 месяца назад +2

      Music, and especially in the great genre of rock, is not about virtuosity but about intentionality, a message, sensations and emotions. It is music and message. The Rolling Stones (e.g.) and many bands didn't become famous nor did they make us vibrate and generate moments and memories because they managed to play the Phrygian scale.

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      It's real simple. It's catchy. It's fun. It's rebellious. It's entertaining. It's dare I offend the naysayers, GOOD.

  • @ClaudioRaffaelli
    @ClaudioRaffaelli 11 месяцев назад +6

    Yngwie is an absolute legend. Not only a guitar virtuoso that changed electric guitar but a great musician and song writer. He goes from Neoclassical hard rock to almost pop without loosing his essence. He represents the “can do” attitude and of course triggers the resentful ones. Hell I even heard other great musicians talking about his politics and now I respect him even more. He’s a true American to say the least.

    • @edvardjuhlinengqvist3385
      @edvardjuhlinengqvist3385 11 месяцев назад +1

      True american but swedish🇸🇪

    • @DenSvartaStjarnan
      @DenSvartaStjarnan 10 месяцев назад +1

      He also treats his musicians like shit, shoves them into the corner of the stage for his live gigs. I agree that he's a good song writer but I think seeing him live was the worst performance I've ever been to. He used to hire brilliant singers but now insists doing it himself, and while he can sing, his voice lacks character. It's a backing voice, not a lead voice. And they'll play his songs but extend the solo by minutes and add new parts completely unrelated to the song structure for him to solo over. They never end up coming back into the final chorus, the solo just ends it. And he plays the same licks over and over.

  • @BradEnquist
    @BradEnquist 3 месяца назад

    I saw Him play in a tiny club in Kansas City a few times early on, one time a few feet away, and it was sureal. I always loved how amazing Yngwie could play. When i heard Black Hole Sun later, i found that it moved me more.

  • @josephkunath4173
    @josephkunath4173 2 года назад +23

    Yngwie kicks ass. I bet he locks the door and pops open a twelve pack of FUCKING DONUTS!

    • @grenudo.
      @grenudo. Год назад

      Fuck yes!!! From the vulgar vids!

    • @pillsareyummy
      @pillsareyummy Год назад +1

      He fucking hates donuts! And Dime, being the great dude he was, no doubt offered him the best ones that day.

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      ​@@pillsareyummyFun fact. You don't see it in the video. At the time of offering Yngvie donuts, Dime....had donuts mounted on his wang.

  • @elishaseeber5244
    @elishaseeber5244 2 года назад +18

    Wtf 😭 this is hilarious

  • @ericeverett510
    @ericeverett510 4 месяца назад +1

    Yngwie is a master

  • @MaxPower-js1sk
    @MaxPower-js1sk Год назад +5

    He looks like my Aunt Sharon.

  • @tonysilva7458
    @tonysilva7458 4 месяца назад

    I have to agree with him!!

  • @shatteredstiks7392
    @shatteredstiks7392 11 месяцев назад +4

    The singers of grunge are out of this world amazing. The musicians are tight in grunge it's just good songs and good singing. He probably doesn't like it doesn't have guitar solos that rip.

    • @PaulEMoz
      @PaulEMoz 11 месяцев назад +2

      His point was that they couldn't have guitar solos that rip, because most of the musicians weren't capable of it. It was almost like a return to the punk era, in some ways. I hated punk music, and I hated grunge music at the time, and I still don't like either of them now, so I knew exactly what he was talking about back in 1992 when he said this. But I also feel the way he does, when he says, they do what they do and that's fine. I can choose not to listen to it. He's much more thoughtful about his comments these days (but still honest!).

    • @shatteredstiks7392
      @shatteredstiks7392 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaulEMoz yeah he put it in a honest disagreable polite, but respectful way. I c an understand he can't use his talent in it too must be boring for him and not his taste. That's fine if people don't like it people need to be honest ans disagree. I like the style I can play hate eternal.on the drums it's more technically fun, but musically I like the sound of grunge even though not a lot happening there as death metal. I wasn't ragging on his disagreement or yours if that is the reason for your post to back him up I was only simply saying probably his reasons.

    • @shatteredstiks7392
      @shatteredstiks7392 11 месяцев назад

      @@PaulEMoz I think I would rather listen to a better song me personally than listen to a terrible song that's more technical is my point for me. Depends on my mood what I feel like listening to AC/DC or listen to Nile.

    • @PaulEMoz
      @PaulEMoz 11 месяцев назад

      @@shatteredstiks7392 it's all personal taste. To me, there are no good grunge songs. I can't listen to it at all. However, his point about grunge musicians is more factual than opinion. On a purely technical basis, it's similar to the punk era, where musicians could play what they needed to technically, and no more.

    • @shatteredstiks7392
      @shatteredstiks7392 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@PaulEMoz That's cool man, we all have our own tastes. I'm very open to all genres I can take something from every style I can find some artists I like.

  • @TammyCreswell-l7h
    @TammyCreswell-l7h Месяц назад

    Exactly 💯

  • @dmitriymode1156
    @dmitriymode1156 Год назад +5

    He is so right. Malmsteen gives his opinion as a virtuoso. He estimates from technical way. And yes, many bands, at all, play from technical point of view badly. Though and fair to mention at once, it does not make their music bad in melodically and touchy senses

  • @joqu6971
    @joqu6971 Месяц назад

    Fantastic guitarist, great musician. Impeccable playing.
    He's just saying his opinion.

  • @thewickednetwork7667
    @thewickednetwork7667 2 года назад +9

    He right especially in the last few years. Bands are trashed and can’t play & no real talent . Yet they sell millions of records and millions of dollars

  • @elvisbullets7382
    @elvisbullets7382 3 месяца назад

    I completely agree. I would love to hear what he thinks aout todays popular "music"

  • @hallucinatedovens8414
    @hallucinatedovens8414 Год назад +5

    Yeah, its possible to have a "negative" opinion of something without "slagging the person off", the difference is the recipient deciding to be offended by criticism

  • @ismelljello
    @ismelljello 4 месяца назад +2

    this is how I feel about hardcore music right now, everyone’s starting the same band that sounds like knocked loose lmao

  • @ratboyninja
    @ratboyninja 2 года назад +5

    Huh...Jerry Cantrell can't play?

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 года назад

      Not really, no.

    • @dmitryowens
      @dmitryowens Год назад

      ​@@MrTubularBalls
      That's why he's played with Ozzy and Heart.

  • @RockStrings
    @RockStrings 2 месяца назад +1

    Yngwie is god 💎💙

  • @DarthEldniw
    @DarthEldniw Год назад +12

    I will listen to Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, or any other band you can name before this, whatever you wanna call him.

  • @margueritemazzeo2904
    @margueritemazzeo2904 6 месяцев назад

    Hes still so pretty..saw him in West Palm Beach in 1989..he was amazing..and I met Lars Ulrich on my way out of the concert too .he autographed my ticket..😊❤🎉

  • @2112CO
    @2112CO Год назад +6

    Playing in your local bar next week

  • @tamashadaszy367
    @tamashadaszy367 3 месяца назад

    Love the honesty!

  • @TonyPuleo1
    @TonyPuleo1 Год назад +4

    🍩 🍩 🍩 ❤

    • @austinfailz
      @austinfailz 11 месяцев назад

      I know it's a meme that he likes donuts and that is why he got fat, but in actuality, it was likely due to drinking. Whether drinking replaced or continued after giving up other vices (such as something like cocaine, though I'm not sure if he was using in the 80s) is anyone's guess.

  • @LETITBURN999
    @LETITBURN999 21 день назад

    So damn insightful!!

  • @nemesis8626
    @nemesis8626 2 года назад +7

    They may not be the most virtuosic musicians but sometimes simplicity in music can produce the best riffs and songs. Imagine a world where the only players were like yngwie, Steve vai, satriani and only the virtuoso , nothing against that style it's cool in moderation but that would be boring.. if every player was just playing like there in a talent contest, sometimes I find virtuoso actually less musical because its like there trying to impress people instead of writing an interesting song

    • @creationlabsinc.189
      @creationlabsinc.189 2 года назад

      But this in this era musical icons do come from contest winning. Crap shows like American idol, America’s got talent, ect ect.

    • @Grail434
      @Grail434 2 года назад

      What you have to understand is that lngwie And Musicians like him are what you call a "musician's, musician"

    • @Angellisgod
      @Angellisgod Год назад +3

      @@creationlabsinc.189 biggest nonsense I’ve ever heard lol, any worthwhile band/artist is homegrown and came up in their respective scene. This comment is so out of touch

    • @kylethomas195
      @kylethomas195 Год назад

      ​@@Angellisgod yeah there is plenty of talent out there, not everyone wants to be famous, nothing againts musicans that are mind

  • @gdavis2018
    @gdavis2018 Месяц назад

    I love it, he is telling the truth from his viewpoint. And I am not a fan of the music he chases, but love his honesty and openness about what he thinks.
    And he looks really young there.

  • @carryingfire286
    @carryingfire286 Год назад +5

    Yngwie is a virtuoso but Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana etc are all MUCH better song writers and create much better art.
    I’m speaking as a person who has met Yngwie at meet and greets and saw him live multiple times.
    It’s just a different thing. Completely different path with the art.

    • @JM-uw8vz
      @JM-uw8vz 11 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly. Every time I listen to Malmsteen, I admire his guitar ability but nothing that he played gets stuck in my head afterwards. Meanwhile, Neil Young is mediocre in regards to technical ability yet he has countless riffs that have stayed in my head for years.

    • @carryingfire286
      @carryingfire286 11 месяцев назад

      @@JM-uw8vz exactly.

    • @PaulEMoz
      @PaulEMoz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JM-uw8vz I'm the exact opposite. I know tons of Yngwie's songs off by heart, but the only Neil Young I can stand to listen to is the version of Rockin' In The Free World that Yngwie, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai did on their G3 tour. Neil Young is one of my absolute least favourite musicians, I can't stand anything I've heard from him. So it's all about personal taste.

  • @joshgrant824
    @joshgrant824 Год назад +1

    This is actually a great way of looking at it. No point in knocking something cuz you don’t like it….they do what they do well, there’s obviously people who like what they do and they make money so cool. You don’t have to like it but can still respect it

    • @NorthViewModelShop
      @NorthViewModelShop Год назад

      Well said. I feel that way about rap. Don’t like it but I don’t knock it cause millions of people love it and those who do it do it really well

  • @fumanpoo4725
    @fumanpoo4725 2 года назад +96

    Give him a donut.

  • @carpenoctem775
    @carpenoctem775 Месяц назад +1

    I like grunge, but I respect Yngwie’s opinion.

  • @HellbillyHalloween
    @HellbillyHalloween Год назад +9

    Can’t Play??? Jerry Cantrell, Mike Mccready, Kim Thayil, Billy Corgan, amazing guitarists and they’re grunge

    • @shelly.618
      @shelly.618 Год назад

      💀💀💀

    • @omega-nf5ku
      @omega-nf5ku 11 месяцев назад +4

      If you think they are amazing guitar players obviously you don't know sht about guitar 😂

    • @HellbillyHalloween
      @HellbillyHalloween 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@omega-nf5kuI do know guitar, I play guitar, I just listen to a wide range of music not just metal, a lot of my favorite guitarists are in the country and jazz genre, also metal and grunge are 2 very different genres of music, metal is a very technical genre that has very tight and flashy riffs, grunge however, is a minimalist subgenre of rock that focuses more on the songwriting than the riffs, but guitarists like Mccready and Cantrell listened to a lot of blues and Jerry Cantrell admits he grew up loving country music as well, Billy Corgan on the other hand was influenced by a lot of psychedelic rock, listen to Gish and you can hear the psychedelic influences

    • @bingobongo1615
      @bingobongo1615 11 месяцев назад +1

      I like their music but I mean… they don’t compare favorably to Yngwie and other 80s virtuosos.
      And that’s fine, neither do but for classically trained musicians like Yngwie of course it seemed strange

    • @CapoKabar
      @CapoKabar 10 месяцев назад +1

      They’re not great all around players. Yngwie can play anything he just chooses to be Yngwie with his neo classical shit. Just like Robben Ford is a tremendous pure blues guitarist but chooses to play complex jazz guitar

  • @annarosa3843
    @annarosa3843 5 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @EvanDander
    @EvanDander Год назад +21

    Writing songs that touch people is the whole point of music.
    Homie is just mad he doesn’t get paid by the note.

    • @gilbertjohnson3622
      @gilbertjohnson3622 Год назад +2

      Not really, he looks at it in terms of musical context, Yngwie knows what he is it doesn’t take a genius to realize that

    • @dmitryowens
      @dmitryowens Год назад

      Exactly.

    • @nathaninostroza7655
      @nathaninostroza7655 10 месяцев назад +2

      Writing music that touch people isnt the whole point of music, thats just the trap to fall into bending to other ppls demands, therefore you, musically, dont matter to them. The whole point of music is to express yourself with an instrument and being heard by someone, be it 3 ppl or 8 billion. Thats a misconception, that art, to be art has to appeal to masses, therefore the ppl you're playing for are more important in the first place than what u actually have to say through music. Thats the great thing about music, that it sets you free from other ppls concern about how you do it and what you should do instead, there are politics and laws for that. If ones freedom through music is viewed by others as egocentric, so be it. Music s more democratized than ever with the social media platform, ppl are their own labels and channels and have a voice on the internet. But expressiveness through a musical instrument or vocal talent should never depend on other ppl s veiw, especially of they dont understand music, they just cant hear what's going on, even if they do, their view on that isnt as deep and intimately accquinted as of the creators themselves. A musician should be egocentric and jealous of his art expression if they believe in it, at first, and later realise that the world doesnt revolve around them and it can keep turning without them, so the musician wont be afraid to be themselves knowing that u cant PHUCKING please everyone. The point to be an artist is to gather ppl to behold what youre about to bring about before them, and the means to it are talent and the niche in wich you level the playing field for it to take place. This is why Yngwie s successful, no matter how many artists can gather 3000 times more than yngwie s amount of followers, many of them havent opened ppls ears to a delightful genre and expression. His musical formula is flawed but its a fact he has inspired many ppl to play guitar and to be true to themselves. Period

    • @BradEnquist
      @BradEnquist 3 месяца назад

      ​@nathaninostroza7655 it's kind of nice if what you happen to like to do just happens to move others out one wants to make a living at it. I totally agree though that you have to be true to yourself.

  • @fire777ish
    @fire777ish 10 месяцев назад +5

    Have you seen the RUclips clip when Dimenag Darrel offered a doughnut to Yngwie? He got so mad !!! 😂😂😅😅😅

  • @Acekorv
    @Acekorv 11 месяцев назад +2

    This just shows that Yngwie understands music but also trends.

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      Sure. That's why Yngvie makes the charts all the time. 🤷‍♀️

    • @Acekorv
      @Acekorv Месяц назад

      @@WilDBeestMF I didn’t say he follows them though…

    • @WilDBeestMF
      @WilDBeestMF Месяц назад

      @@Acekorv It might do him some good. He might write a good song.

  • @jagenarmory2862
    @jagenarmory2862 Год назад +7

    Everything he said is 100% correct.

  • @RikkShredLifestyle
    @RikkShredLifestyle 11 месяцев назад

    Spot on...moving on 🔥 🎸

  • @codyknudtson7851
    @codyknudtson7851 2 года назад +7

    This guy stays throwing shade, talking about how ppl can't play he can't write a song ppl actually want to hear.

    • @JackR845
      @JackR845 Год назад

      He's had one platinum record and two gold records in Japan, what have you accomplished?

    • @John_Doe657
      @John_Doe657 Год назад +2

      @@JackR845 Nirvana acomplished more than the self proclaimed expert in this video, and they couldn’t play btw…

    • @JackR845
      @JackR845 Год назад

      @@John_Doe657 complete red herring, I never said Nirvana weren't more accomplished?

    • @Soundeagle3456
      @Soundeagle3456 6 месяцев назад

      @@John_Doe657 yeah and who published them? some record company that wanted a low talent act to promote new agendas onto the masses. they didn't want malmsteen because he wasn't preaching suicide, depression, he wasn't preaching laziness. he was doing everything the record companies hated; playing music of high quality that expressed positive or uplifting emotions, feelings of joy and determination. the same type of people who made nirvana famous were also porno directors and another 'rebellious' types who only care about putting dirty things into kid's minds.

    • @John_Doe657
      @John_Doe657 6 месяцев назад

      @@Soundeagle3456 You’re missing the point. It dosn’t matter what genre it is, grunge, pop, hip-hop, country etc. A good song is a good song simple as that. That’s what people wants to hear, a chorus they can sing along to.

  • @carlos25021977
    @carlos25021977 11 месяцев назад

    I totally agree

  • @oliverkraft1621
    @oliverkraft1621 Год назад +51

    Actually it’s a misconception that you need to play an instrument really well to make awesome music.

    • @ChickenJoe-tq6xd
      @ChickenJoe-tq6xd Год назад +6

      You do, the computerized crap sounds like dog water

    • @joaosustelo5628
      @joaosustelo5628 11 месяцев назад +12

      Yes. Music is about composition, not technique.
      Many classical musicians dont know how to play a single instrument but they know what every instrument does.

    • @adamrasmussen9939
      @adamrasmussen9939 11 месяцев назад +11

      Think that might be why history remembers most of them as COMPOSERS, and not 'musicians'?
      A musician, by definition, PLAYS a musical instrument, or multiple. A composer arranges EVERY part for EVERY instrument in a piece and then directs the musicians to help them play what he's scored on paper for each one of them.

    • @joaosustelo5628
      @joaosustelo5628 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@adamrasmussen9939 I always thought of a musician as someone who 'works' with music, has some theoretical or pratical knowledge about music and can compose.
      When I was studying there was a guy who was infinitely better and had way better technique than me at playing guitar, which was impressive. He was really good. I am very normal and lost interest in improving my skills a long while ago. BUT, if I hear a melody, if its not that technically challenging like Dream Theater, or I hear a chord, I can play it on guitar or sing it in a few seconds and I dont have perfect pitch, I only have relative pitch.
      He, on the other hand would hear the simplest melody and would look very confused and couldnt play it. He probably has improved a lot after that
      I dont think people realize how much talent it requires to create a song on a computer, or come up with all these tracks or layers and put them together, and I am not really a fan of electronic music but I can appreciate artists like Deadmau5. The future of music is going to be electronic because computers can do what we do with instruments and more...
      My favourite band ever (in rock/metal atleast) is Deftones, which is not that technically challenging, although they do some odd time signatures. But nobody does what they do. These guys understand music in a way that no other band or musician understand and in my opinion are arguably the most creative/original band ever in the rock/metal genre.

    • @adamrasmussen9939
      @adamrasmussen9939 11 месяцев назад +2

      @joaosustelo5628 Maybe I'm missing your point, but I wasn't grading 'musicians' and 'composers' on a sliding scale, or suggesting a certain level of proficiency was required to be one versus the other, I was just noting that 'history' has remembered the composers of classical music very broadly with accentuating details of their childhood and adolescence and tragic events that may have befallen them throughout their lives. Meanwhile, the actual performers of that music have not been remembered almost at all. This continues into today's modern 'classical' genre, we still have popular composers like John Williams, but most performers with almost ANY professional orchestra are unknown outside their industry. I believe this to be the case because replicating something great is a LOT easier than *CREATING* something great.
      Last, I would say most children 'know' what many musical instruments do, and can differentiate between the look and sounds of many different instruments. But if they can't use that knowledge to replicate even a little bit of actual music, then no, I don't consider them a musician. I don't care if someone was a professional luthier, I wouldn't automatically consider them to be a musician if they can't play (at least some of) the instruments they are working on. Obv most luthiers, piano techs etc DO know how to play, it's just an example.

  • @kulaiekilatus779
    @kulaiekilatus779 4 месяца назад

    Exactly!!

  • @matman8812
    @matman8812 2 года назад +10

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