Enneagram Type 8 vs Counterphobic 6 - Avoid this BIG Enneagram Typing Mistake
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Too many people are typed as 8 on the Enneagram when their personality is type CP counter phobic 6. This deep dive into the difference between Ennea 8 and CP6 will help you clear up any confusion and understand the core difference.
Counterphobic 6 is often neglected and not included in enneagram tests, so learning about this important variant of type 6 is helpful.
Whether you're an enneagram enthusiast, a practitioner or a coach, get clear on type eight versus counter-phobic six.
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This is the best enneagram related video I’ve ever seen. I reeeally wish you would make similar ones of every enneagram type - core motivations, behaviours and thought patterns that stem from that.
Great suggestion! Appreciate the comment very much - thanks
Wonderful. However I think it'd be better if you use the word "anxiety" instead of fear for showing the root of the 6. All 9 types have fears, but the point is 6s are afraid of not knowing who to trust - "people anxiety". Fear is a response to an actual threat. Anxiety is a response to a potential unknown future threat that is unseen.
Nice explanation of fear vs anxiety - when I teach I do also like to unpack the full continuum of fear from low volume caution and discernment to higher volumes of anxiety and full blown fear. Great point.
I'm more of a 6 than an 8. In reality, it is impossible to be independent of others all the time, so I have been a people pleaser at times to gain a social network. However, I cannot associate myself with 3 while disintegrating, as I always show my real face and dislike being inauthentic or wearing a mask to be accepted by someone. The idea of being fake for someone makes me uncomfortable. So this aspect of mine makes me think I'm an 8. It is too confusing.
You are not alone in the confusion, it can be difficult to distinguish for sure. It can help to trace everything back to what I call the personality pearl - Red for 8 and Blue for 6. Your sharing of "people pleaser at times to gain a social network" sounds more like blue pearl than red 8. And it's a touch into the 3, so my guess (not certain) sounds closer to 6 to me. 8 would likely not rationalize too much or share as openly here as you have. Hope that helps. I do have a small free quiz/tutorial that may help, coach.innerlifeskills.com/product/enneagram-free/
@@InnerlifeskillsILS Thank you for your clarification
That is by far the BEST explanation I've ever seen or read. It's clear you know what you're talking about. Thank you so much for it. All the best!
Wow, thank you! Appreciate that a lot. I'm always learning.
Please do a video explaining the "doors" for all of the types and what that looks like!
Great Idea. Will consider that for sure.
watch this at 1.5x
Yup, my 9 voice.
Why would type 8 side automatically with the powerful? Their entire personality profile is built around not being controlled, "the need to be against", being free to do what they want (id type). I think powerful vs powerless is too much of a culturally loaded metric to be meaningful, no one likes bullies. the reason they hate the bully is the key. Think about it. If the 8 is constantly seeking hierarchy, then it implies 8 will naturally clash with authority as well, same as a cp 6.
Thanks, great points. Appreciate the share. Any conversation about personality will have generalizations, and there are always exceptions for sure. It's difficult to find helpful teaching points to draw the line between the two, and many folks get that "aha" when they explore the nuances of power vs powerless. Not always, but 8 tends to identify more with being in power, their gut instinct and anger pearl feels like a source of innate power. CP6 tends to identify with the powerless, to champion their cause and speak for the underdog. Its a subtle but often helpful point of exploration.
Thank you so much for such a detailed and deep analysis ❤ Very helpful!
Such a pleasure. Thanks for the comment.
Hi! This video is one of the most informative videos I’ve seen surrounding this topic so far! But, I was wondering what exactly do you mean when you talk about how the anger of 8s is less directed at a certain thing or for a reason? Like if it isn’t for something or directed at something then where does it go?
Hi thanks so much for the kind feedback, we put a lot into our videos so it means a lot. There of course are exceptions, but what I've seen is that 8 anger is more innate, the energy of it, like a gut fire always there hardwired. And that is because of the Red Pearl - anger + impact + resistance + gut = Red Pearl (8 9 1). Whereas 6CP is a Blue Pearl, so the mind directs anger "at" an injustice, championing the underdog etc. Hope that helps
Thankyou so much.This was very helpful
You're very welcome! Appreciate the comment.
Thanks for this video, a good analysis.
In your opinion, was Adolf Hitler a counterphobic 6, or an 8?
Thank you so much. It's so difficult to tell what famous people are or were, because we can only see their "behavior" and guess the underlying "Reasons" for what they do, which is the enneagram type. And of course, the personality is different to mental illness, which would over ride the personality. Some folks even argue that he was a 1. My guess, and it really is a guess is not 8, because there appeared to be a lot of "thought through" motivations and ideologies etc. But clearly mental illness which makes it hard to say. I'm also not a history buff, so not positioned to guess well.
Solid material, props for highlighting what's Your opinion, good job 🪽
Thanks kindly.