@@rodjacksonx heard this for 20 years and this way still didn't manifest. do please wake me up when youtube removes monetization from all videos and goes back to being a hobby site again.
These days I binge watch more series and shows and listen to music and comment less on videos that I watch on YT because I don't know what no to say anymore due to the censorship it's like being 2 yrs old again where I don't know how to talk or what the write words to use are for the point I want to make it's ridiculous.
I do believe Walmart was the first to break antitrust laws followed by media companies, Amazon and then alphabet. We are so far in the mud we can't see the sky anymore.
Anti trust was and is a useless and bad law. Rockefeller became even more wealthy when they used it to go after him and now it’s used to prevent US companies from buying each other up so that European companies can come in and do it.
Google is already one of the worst search engines on the market. The quality has consistently dropped over the last 15 years. A simple search gets you 4 pages of everything but the search tag
@@kylexile87 DuckDuckGo is pretty good, the only thing I use Google for is if I'm searching for a local business. DDG uses Apple maps and it's garbage.
Google maps is still very useful and far better than the alternatives, but besides that I dont use Google anymore. Chrome, search, AI.. all complete trash.
@@wereproductsnotconsumers8179 That's already happening. And likely will be completely gone much sooner that you realize. I remember the days where every website had a comment section. Every news story. That's not the case anymore. It all started with Yahoo removing the majority of comment sections on any news article that they perceived might remotely be controversial or have their narrative be challenged.
The fact a simple algorithm change by Google can create disruptions in advertising that can level multiple industries to the dirt, is proof that they are in fact a search monopoly
No you’re just now catching up - they’ve been evil for decades - Google was evil from its very inception just no one knows where it actually came from or it would be clear
@@oidenhoward-go9fz You do realize Alphabet (Google) owns YT right? So you are being just a wee bit of a hypocrite by posting on a Alphabet owned platform.
@@yeost187 nice try at a gotcha moment. im only on here to say stop. im not giving Google and RUclips money by posting videos. Of which this anti-American, communist you tube gets 30%
Ma Bell was even less dysfunctional than Google is today. Not saying there weren't serious problems with the monopoly, but the core "telephone service" product hated the consumer less. Time before dialtone on pickup was actually a specification, and connectivity across the switching network was surprisingly good across a lot of the local/state "bells". The system worked, and worked surprisingly well. Telephone handsets and hardware built by Western Electric are damn heavy, and literal WE candlesticks from 1928 still work today. Call quality on ancient handsets is not worse than anything made now. I'm not seeing a lot of Google products that actually try to give the consumer something he wants. I just see cynical money grabs.
My oldest son is 16. Up until he was 14 he thought Google was the internet. There was no distinction in his mind. I was talking to him about something when I realized that and explained it to him. But that's the amount of control they have.
"They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should." The dystopian future we all know is coming is getting much closer.
coming? its been here for a while already just people dont care to notice. Its no different to when the world criticized the german population for not noticing the very bad things around them and the world pretty much said, "come on, get real, we dont believe you.", and here we are, bad stuff happening all around and same as back then people have their eyes and ears closed quite intentionally.
I posted on the NY Post that this would backfire spectacularly on Google itself. Why? Because it will drive advertisers to pull all ads from Google, especially RUclips.
Right, we can only hope their greed and stupidity will bolster other search engines. Remember when Yahoo ran the show back in the day? Yeah, no one. And totally *not* a coincidence that Marisa "Snorts" Mayer was CEO at the time of her many disastrous decisions, and cost them even more for a golden parachute payout to leave. I reckon she was a Google Trojan horse.
profit hasnt been a concern for "them" in a long time, its been about control and remains about control, why care about money when your given free money to stay afloat, keep the "message" going with the full backing of 1 party that owns everything, everyone and the law.
I had my RUclips page curated just how i liked it. Nerdrotic, HvB, Critical Drinker, D&D news, ClownfishTV, Quartering, among a couple others. The past couple days, I've had to block channels and tell the algorithm I don't want coomer videos in my recommended. It's election time alright.
Yeah, this week all of a sudden my feed is filled with try-on hauls, Asian dancing girls, and AI generated film trailers for movies that do not exist. I am constantly blocking channels now.
In Australia we are constantly recommend news videos about American propaganda. And if you block an dislike and report the channel. RUclips will still recommend the channel to you but this time it will ask you to fill out a smiley face survey about how awesome the same recommendation is.
No they didn't, the DOJ in 2001 said they were guilty, proven in a court of law, but that they were going to "bypass the penalty phase," i.e. yes, they're guilty of Sherman violations, but there would be no sentencing.
@@BinkyTheToasterThey got crippled for a while essentially. Hence failed in mobile and then lost the browser market to Google. However, they are roughly 1 in market cap and remain hugely profitable.
Google has already been labeled a monopoly in the phone market, so I think this will help in just taking them out altogether. There are too many monopolies at this point in this world and they all need to go.
and who exactly is taking them out? the people who own/control and profit from them? gl with that, its not worked anywhere else of late, us law is a joke and only runs in 1 direction, if that direction is against "them" then we get the shit show thats been on display for many years now. clear violations of the law and constitution with no comeback because the ones in control own everything that matters, they aint gonna arrest themselves.
AI Overview is so annoying. Google search was working fine, why did they feel the need to add this? Also, there's no way to turn it off and it's often wrong. I typed in a question about a show and the AI gave me a completely incorrect answer, it was just making things up.
I’ve not seen it in operation. Not available in the UK yet. However, I use Brave Search which has an AI Summariser and it’s very good and provides links to the sources. But it’s context dependent and you can optionally turn it off. However, it does mean that I quite often don’t need to look beyond the summary. I guess that’s what will eventually happen with Google as it gets better.
Nothing, considering their Head of Child Safety was sacked after doing an illegal sit-in at the Google offices a few weeks ago. Expect another highly paid dolt to basically do nothing tangible.
@@myview5840 I used to use DDG, but something happened that eroded my trust in the company, but I can't remember what. I'd also suggest Brave or Firefox as your browser if you use Chrome as a number of browsers might move to Manifest V3, which would block adblockers.
What's this link fee law? I haven't heard about this. Edit: Just looked it up--it's a law requiring major websites to pay news outlets for linking to their site. They've done the same thing in Australia and I think a few other countries. The unbelievable gall of expecting to get paid for free advertising...
@@connorpenrod397 AP News has an article on it. Titled: Faced with possibly paying for news, Google removes links to California news sites for some users
Search engines have been overflooded with bots for so long you can barely find anything you're actually looking for. Nothing 'added' will benefit end users
Google search has been borderline useless garbage for the better part of a decade now. It is a shame that its market penetration is so deep that it barely functions at its original useage effectiveness yet people don't abandon it for competing products that actually work based on the conditional stated need of the user. You used to be able to wade through all the crap you didn't ask for and find useful search results based on your input string, which was a downgrade from the original functionality, but still workable. Now it is just trash tangentially related to what you asked for, but driven by all the terms they add to your search string behind your back. Too bad "too big to fail" is an actual thing.
Google is intimately linked to android and apple is garbage. Google is garbage too, but android isn't. So people put up with google because the alternative is an expensive apple clone device that does nothing different. That's why I keep using google even though I hate it. It's a lesser evil to me. Same with youtube verses other social media. But yeah Google is garbage. Unfortunately the alternative is even worse.
I don't use google for searches,research or anything else really, so it's no big deal to me. Google has sucked for years as is. I don't even have it on my desktop,lol.
Same here but it doesnt remove the problem. No traffic and other sites and some hosts will go bankrupt & shut down. Then theres the consequence of living in a world that gets all their info from the distortion field.
I'm already following you over on "Mean Green"...I need to set up a Locals account. And yeah, it's past time for Google to be broken up. It's basically Standard Oil on steroids.
I haven’t used Google since it gave answers to a query of MEN CAN… with answers such as…have periods and get pregnant. I still have the Screenshots! I use BRAVE.
We are well past the point where the Internet needs to be defined as a utility like phones and even cable are. This would solve problems like this. As Google being an ISP would be an agent of the government and subject to The Constitution.
More govt won't help either. If you want more options best would be if America returned to their origins and went forward with more economing freedom. There is so huge regulatory burden on any tech company that no surprise we don't see that many rivals. Just recently a company for which I had a contract released ~100 page fire instruction manual. That's complete nonsense - any sane person will remember at most few core points in case of fire. Now imagine that companies had to hire or pay elsewhere to generate such instruction.
they are the government same as all the other big tech that fall in lockstep with each other and the constitution isnt worth anything as its violated daily with no consequence.
@Max_Ohm I am talking reality, if I had it my way the Federal government would be a quarter the size it is, 3/4 of the Executive Branch Departments would be under the Congress, political parties would be abolished, term limits would be in place for all offices, and corporations influencing in government would be divided into smaller divisions as they have gotten too large, I could go on but my point The Founders would be revolted by the Feds now. But the Internet being categorized as a utility would bring companies like Google under the Constitution and their shitty ToS would be unenforceable.
@Xeverous Its not more government, it's using the existing government to bring extra government entities. Into a status as agents of the government and subject to The Constitution. It's not the optimal solution, it the best one we could realistically get.
Sometimes the shadow banning in the comments are so bad from such mundane comments that I just want to punch my keyboard and break it in half so instead of having some extra crunchy trash from busted up keyboards I comment less and just listen.
I usually fiddlle with AI to learn how it works and see what I can do with it, like art with visual concept experimentaion, writing after I write how I do it first to sharpen the quality of the grammar and wording, but no lie, I don't trust the one on Google and/or RUclips's because I already figure they are up to something.
@BungieStudios I am open minded to try new stuff and that's it. Even then, if I chose to try something fine, but if a Hive mind like Twitter is telling me to try it, I avoid it.
I haven't used google search since like 2018. I was trying to find articles around US politics and the level of curation was dystopian and frightening.
Companies developing AI need to be forced to pay for the data they use to train their AI. Anytime an AI uses a website to build its LLM responses it should have to pay that website.
Back in the day yahoo was it, somehow and I can't really put my finger on it Google became Walmart and yahoo went through way of Kmart. Time to get rid of Google!
On the contrary... there were far more engines then just Yahoo... There was Web Crawler, Lycos, Alta Vista, Excite, Ask Jeeves, Dogpile, Who Is, Archie, Gopher, Info Seek, Jughead, and Baidu... There was even a lesser known graphical engine called Kartoo where each word would generate a constellation of associated possibilities, kind of like the autofill suggestions, and you could just jump from point to point and easily find related material or refine it even further.
Agreed, and it's exactly why my parents and I won't vote in the next elections either because it doesn't make one bit of difference whatsoever, unfortunately as a 35 yr guy I have a lot of time ahead of me because if I was elderly already I really wouldn't be concerned about the future all that much.
@@indepthmike5578 Choosing not to vote isn't the answer. That gives Democrats/ liberals more advantage. I see people keep saying this. However let's say if they actually check an election results and count conservative votes, yours can't be voted and it adds to the overall issue. I'm going to vote because it's the right thing to do.
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Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (47 U.S. Code § 230) doesn't differentiate between platform and publisher. It simply says that an interactive computer service cannot be held accountable for speech of its users. In other words, and as Section 230 clearly says, "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." In fact, also and separately, it specifically shields interactive computer services for their choices to moderate, and the only basis that is needed to qualify for such a shield is the service's own opinion that the content is objectionable. This protection is not based on any conditions of how the platform must behave, such as by being neutral. There is no requirement anywhere in the law that such interactive computer services need be neutral or any such thing. In fact, any such law would be unconstitutional because of the freedoms of speech, property, association, and contract. Such a law would also likely be unconstitutional as a taking without compensation. Notably, this liability shield is precisely that: a shield; it in no way criminalizes or makes anything tortious. The liability shield section stands independently from the anti-publisher protection. Even if something would disqualify an interactive computer service from one, the other wouldn't necessarily be invalidated. This is signaled by the lack of any language in the law demonstrating such a mechanic. Legal challenges to Section 230 at the Supreme Court recently failed on other grounds. See Gonzalez v. Google LLC, 143 S. Ct. 1191, 215 L.Ed.2d 555 (2023) and Twitter, Inc. v. Taamneh, 143 S. Ct. 1206, 215 L.Ed.2d 444 (2023). Right-socialist myths to the contrary are just that: myths. Additionally, the 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis, 143 S. Ct. 2298, 216 L.Ed.2d 1131 (2023) case further confirms that social media cannot be constitutionally compelled to speak (such as by being forced to host your speech). Oral arguments on NetChoice & CCIA v. Paxton, 144 S. Ct. 275, 217 L.Ed.2d 125 (2023), and Moody v. NetChoice and CCIA, 144 S. Ct. 478, 216 L.Ed.2d 1313 (2023), were recently heard by the Supreme Court on February 26, 2024. In these, Florida's and Texas's laws attempting to force social media to (effectively) operate as common carriers were challenged on the first amendment and other grounds. Based on the responses from the justices, the laws will likely be rightly struck down. (I personally am guessing a 6-3, with Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas in the dissent). The most likely rationale for the majority opinion is that the first amendment generally prohibits the government from compelling speech, as it was seen in the 303 Creative case. Justice Kavanaugh summarized it well: the First Amendment protects private actors against government censorship; it does not allow the government to tell private actors what they must publish. Lastly, the current Supreme Court's adherence to strict separation of powers via the major questions doctrine means that any law purporting to restrict interactive computer services, such as in the style the myths claim, would need to be unambiguously passed by Congress. As explained above, Section 230 does not even purport to do that. (Separately, there is no applicable power under Article I, Section 8 of the constitution for such a federal law.)
Yeah, Kneon from Clownfish Gaming has been talking about this for quite a while now. He's been ringing this particular alarm bell for some time all the while no-one really listens because they can't see farther than the next quarterly earnings. Everyone has been suckling from the teat of big Tech for so long that I'm fairly sure there'll be a lot of people who are now looking forward to the upcoming AI-fest that's now here.
Actual article: This person acted inappropriately towards his daughter in the shower. Google AI summary: This person is a great guy and everybody loves him.
Google's search has been garbage for years. Every now and then I'll go give them a shot again but the results are completely useless. It baffles me how they have 90% of the market -- but also explains a lot about how the world is just going to ish.
What will be funny is if Mainstream Media actually brings this up on National Television and advises viewers to not use Google when searching for news articles.
In fairness to Google's outlandish usage percentage, it's not their fault normies use them for everything, instead of typing in the website they want. About 80% of their traffic could be stopped if people stopped googling a site to get there. It's a weird laziness with an extra step.
This is why I've started using Rumble more and more. There's still some creators on RUclips that still have yet to make the jump over to Rumble; that hopefully changes in the near future. Great video btw.
What good is a google ran AI if no one listens to, nor believes it?
No, I’ll stick with independent journos
Supprised X hasn’t released a non biased search engine
good strategy untill you realize all you can hear is only the AI.
you really think they gonna leave any breaches open?!
@@marcossonicracer - The Internet will find a way.
@@rodjacksonx heard this for 20 years and this way still didn't manifest.
do please wake me up when youtube removes monetization from all videos and goes back to being a hobby site again.
@@richardwaring937 you really want to depend on him?!
good grief. trading one master to another.
Google needs to be shut down and RUclips needs to be bought by someone who isn’t complete garbage
The NSA founded Google. They won't be shut down ever.
@@wreagfewhere did you find that?
Like Musk or Trump?
Don't be antisemitic
These days I binge watch more series and shows and listen to music and comment less on videos that I watch on YT because I don't know what no to say anymore due to the censorship it's like being 2 yrs old again where I don't know how to talk or what the write words to use are for the point I want to make it's ridiculous.
If big tech wasn't in bed with the government, the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890 should apply and break up monopolies like this.
I do believe Walmart was the first to break antitrust laws followed by media companies, Amazon and then alphabet. We are so far in the mud we can't see the sky anymore.
Thank you I've said the same thing in the past this is ridiculous
Another way to frame it.....if big tech wasn't government.
YT censored my list of company's that broke this law. Wally world, Amazonian, MSM, and abcefg......ect.
Anti trust was and is a useless and bad law. Rockefeller became even more wealthy when they used it to go after him and now it’s used to prevent US companies from buying each other up so that European companies can come in and do it.
Google is already one of the worst search engines on the market. The quality has consistently dropped over the last 15 years. A simple search gets you 4 pages of everything but the search tag
It's all about that PROMOTED cash now, search accuracy be damned.
Yup and on top of that if you search for products you want to buy you will always be directed to suppliers who pay the highest premium to Google.
I use Bing at work and Google is still a thousand times better than that garbage search engine.
@@kylexile87 DuckDuckGo is pretty good, the only thing I use Google for is if I'm searching for a local business. DDG uses Apple maps and it's garbage.
Google maps is still very useful and far better than the alternatives, but besides that I dont use Google anymore. Chrome, search, AI.. all complete trash.
The censorship on youtube is EXTREME
Most of my posts turn invisible
I can't post anything bad about biden anymore....
They are owned by g00gle
It got MUCH worse after Trump embarrassed Hillary in 2016 and now debate is not tolerated. They should just remove the comment section at this point.
@@wereproductsnotconsumers8179 That's already happening. And likely will be completely gone much sooner that you realize. I remember the days where every website had a comment section. Every news story. That's not the case anymore. It all started with Yahoo removing the majority of comment sections on any news article that they perceived might remotely be controversial or have their narrative be challenged.
The fact a simple algorithm change by Google can create disruptions in advertising that can level multiple industries to the dirt, is proof that they are in fact a search monopoly
It's there plan to carry in digital currency. They want the world in chaos.
Google and Microsoft are rapidly becoming companies to avoid.
That’s been true for over a decade.
Yep. But so is apple so what are the other options?
@@gadaboutgriffon4446 Linux.
Have been for a looong time. Glad you're opening your eyes finally.
No you’re just now catching up - they’ve been evil for decades - Google was evil from its very inception just no one knows where it actually came from or it would be clear
All these huge corporate monopolies need to be shut down and broken up!
This is happening because people keep using Google. STOP
@@oidenhoward-go9fz You do realize Alphabet (Google) owns YT right? So you are being just a wee bit of a hypocrite by posting on a Alphabet owned platform.
yeah, but when we say this, everyone screams "bu-bu-but muh capitalism".
@@yeost187 It's not hypocrisy, it's a monopoly cause there is no good alternative.
@@yeost187 nice try at a gotcha moment. im only on here to say stop. im not giving Google and RUclips money by posting videos. Of which this anti-American, communist you tube gets 30%
I'm old enough to remember the break-up of Ma Bell and AT&T. Seems it's time for Congress to break-up another monopoly.
There is exactly 0% chance Congress will do anything. The security state won't let them do anything to disrupt their privacy-destroying agenda.
Ma Bell was even less dysfunctional than Google is today. Not saying there weren't serious problems with the monopoly, but the core "telephone service" product hated the consumer less.
Time before dialtone on pickup was actually a specification, and connectivity across the switching network was surprisingly good across a lot of the local/state "bells". The system worked, and worked surprisingly well.
Telephone handsets and hardware built by Western Electric are damn heavy, and literal WE candlesticks from 1928 still work today. Call quality on ancient handsets is not worse than anything made now.
I'm not seeing a lot of Google products that actually try to give the consumer something he wants. I just see cynical money grabs.
Goolag sucks.
well its more so cali, but google has been complacent with cali's bull s**t for so long that i hardly feel bad for them
Googlag
And Blows (and not in the good way!)
xD
Google has one job - Get Biden re-elected!
the elections are clearly a joke anyways, exactly why the "news" is being controlled and manipulated more than ever.
Bingo
pretty much.
That is not going to happen, the man is a national embarrassment.
Just in time for an election
My oldest son is 16. Up until he was 14 he thought Google was the internet. There was no distinction in his mind. I was talking to him about something when I realized that and explained it to him. But that's the amount of control they have.
I doubt thats uncommon with most of the youth now. The internet is so centralized now compared to how it was a decade or two ago.. its sad.
"They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should." The dystopian future we all know is coming is getting much closer.
Read the Bible, it's going to happen. They have all the money & power & know what to change & do. It's all gradually being honed in
coming? its been here for a while already just people dont care to notice. Its no different to when the world criticized the german population for not noticing the very bad things around them and the world pretty much said, "come on, get real, we dont believe you.", and here we are, bad stuff happening all around and same as back then people have their eyes and ears closed quite intentionally.
Time to start putting FJB memes on billboards
I want to see a huge billboard with a confused-looking Brandon with the caption "Who shit my pants?"
Oh, comeon, it's not like Google is one of those alphabet agencies ........ wait a second.... they are owned by Alphabet Inc. ...... 🤐
Owned by cia
Google 🤝 CIA
@@4.0.4 was invented by cia
Best start peeking under your bed for fed spooks after posting this. 😮
@ZombieLogic101 They'll just add him to the edited version of Epstein's list. No rich people found but a weird sudden trend in political grouping...
I posted on the NY Post that this would backfire spectacularly on Google itself. Why? Because it will drive advertisers to pull all ads from Google, especially RUclips.
Right, we can only hope their greed and stupidity will bolster other search engines. Remember when Yahoo ran the show back in the day? Yeah, no one. And totally *not* a coincidence that Marisa "Snorts" Mayer was CEO at the time of her many disastrous decisions, and cost them even more for a golden parachute payout to leave. I reckon she was a Google Trojan horse.
Let's hope you're right. Nothing concentrates the mind of these conglomerates more than a punch in the bottom line.
So basically Google saw the "Dead Internet" theory and said "Yeah, let's make that happen. That sounds profitable!". 😅
profit hasnt been a concern for "them" in a long time, its been about control and remains about control, why care about money when your given free money to stay afloat, keep the "message" going with the full backing of 1 party that owns everything, everyone and the law.
@@disasterincarnate I.E. the uniparty.
The real question is: what is the basis for California claiming taxes for web links?
Because they can
So they can afford to pay reparations
Its to purchaae food for the homeless at 10x the price becauae a politician owns the supplier.
Their I/O yesterday was so cringe. They cater to adult babies who need their hands held just to do simple tasks.
which is the new generation of people they are engineering.
I had my RUclips page curated just how i liked it. Nerdrotic, HvB, Critical Drinker, D&D news, ClownfishTV, Quartering, among a couple others. The past couple days, I've had to block channels and tell the algorithm I don't want coomer videos in my recommended. It's election time alright.
Yeah, this week all of a sudden my feed is filled with try-on hauls, Asian dancing girls, and AI generated film trailers for movies that do not exist. I am constantly blocking channels now.
Glad I'm not the only one
I just stay away from all that by only looking at my subscription page.
In Australia we are constantly recommend news videos about American propaganda. And if you block an dislike and report the channel.
RUclips will still recommend the channel to you but this time it will ask you to fill out a smiley face survey about how awesome the same recommendation is.
How about all those "mixes" that you can't get rid of, full of videos from all of the channels that you've blocked? ffs 🙄
Microshaft gut broken up, Google should get the same treatment.
Big Difference between Google and Microsoft is that Google has More Power and Info than almost any government in the world
No they didn't, the DOJ in 2001 said they were guilty, proven in a court of law, but that they were going to "bypass the penalty phase," i.e. yes, they're guilty of Sherman violations, but there would be no sentencing.
@@BinkyTheToasterThey got crippled for a while essentially. Hence failed in mobile and then lost the browser market to Google. However, they are roughly 1 in market cap and remain hugely profitable.
@@BinkyTheToaster They were broken into two entities.
@@michaelray5595 Wow, really? Name them. Name them, and provide the stock tickers. I have complete certainty that you can't.
There has to come a point where people have had enough. Sadly, I think people are still too comfortable to do anything about it.
Google has already been labeled a monopoly in the phone market, so I think this will help in just taking them out altogether. There are too many monopolies at this point in this world and they all need to go.
and who exactly is taking them out? the people who own/control and profit from them? gl with that, its not worked anywhere else of late, us law is a joke and only runs in 1 direction, if that direction is against "them" then we get the shit show thats been on display for many years now. clear violations of the law and constitution with no comeback because the ones in control own everything that matters, they aint gonna arrest themselves.
AI Overview is so annoying. Google search was working fine, why did they feel the need to add this? Also, there's no way to turn it off and it's often wrong.
I typed in a question about a show and the AI gave me a completely incorrect answer, it was just making things up.
I’ve not seen it in operation. Not available in the UK yet. However, I use Brave Search which has an AI Summariser and it’s very good and provides links to the sources. But it’s context dependent and you can optionally turn it off.
However, it does mean that I quite often don’t need to look beyond the summary. I guess that’s what will eventually happen with Google as it gets better.
A search engine that cannot even spell. And needs a hearing aid. 😂😂😂👍
If they cared so much about weeding out AI generated content, why haven't they done anything about the content farms aimed at children?
Nothing, considering their Head of Child Safety was sacked after doing an illegal sit-in at the Google offices a few weeks ago. Expect another highly paid dolt to basically do nothing tangible.
Actions speak louder than words. They don't care.
Remember when Google's corporate motto was "Don't be evil."?
The people with good intentions get replaced eventually.
Current corporate motto, "Be evil!"
they were referring to others, those rules dont apply to them clearly.
This is why I use Brave as my search engine instead.
There are other option: DuckDuckGo, SwissCows, Yandex, etc. Take your pick.
Duckduckgo for me
@@myview5840 I used to use DDG, but something happened that eroded my trust in the company, but I can't remember what. I'd also suggest Brave or Firefox as your browser if you use Chrome as a number of browsers might move to Manifest V3, which would block adblockers.
@@myview5840same!
Thank you
I already use the duck
In terms of Google, people will just stop using Google in favor of other search engines. I already have, and should have done it sooner.
Just in time for elections
They say it's about profit 🙄 it's all about control...
Dont blame google, blame California laws for this. They recently passed a Link fee law and google is updating to be compliant.
What's this link fee law? I haven't heard about this.
Edit: Just looked it up--it's a law requiring major websites to pay news outlets for linking to their site. They've done the same thing in Australia and I think a few other countries.
The unbelievable gall of expecting to get paid for free advertising...
I would guess they have enough money and power to just leave Ca
I blame cia
@@connorpenrod397 AP News has an article on it. Titled: Faced with possibly paying for news, Google removes links to California news sites for some users
CA isn't the entirety of the U.S. Commie-fornia can go fork itself!
the true power is the control of information and it's manipulation.
Ok, at this point they become a publisher not a platform
If you use Google to search for news you're beyond help.
Search engines have been overflooded with bots for so long you can barely find anything you're actually looking for. Nothing 'added' will benefit end users
Google search has been borderline useless garbage for the better part of a decade now.
It is a shame that its market penetration is so deep that it barely functions at its original useage effectiveness yet people don't abandon it for competing products that actually work based on the conditional stated need of the user.
You used to be able to wade through all the crap you didn't ask for and find useful search results based on your input string, which was a downgrade from the original functionality, but still workable.
Now it is just trash tangentially related to what you asked for, but driven by all the terms they add to your search string behind your back.
Too bad "too big to fail" is an actual thing.
Google is intimately linked to android and apple is garbage. Google is garbage too, but android isn't. So people put up with google because the alternative is an expensive apple clone device that does nothing different. That's why I keep using google even though I hate it. It's a lesser evil to me. Same with youtube verses other social media. But yeah Google is garbage. Unfortunately the alternative is even worse.
Sad that nobody will ever experience old Goggle when it was actually useful and not MSM curated garbage.
Google needs to be broken up.
Soooo... Google wants to be AOL. Wow, yeah, this is going to end well.
*CompuServe gives you a knowing look*
Everyone should Boycott by removing GA4 tracking from their websites.
You don’t need to have the government BREAK UP anything. Just show up with a better product and COMPETE!
I don't use google for searches,research or anything else really, so it's no big deal to me. Google has sucked for years as is. I don't even have it on my desktop,lol.
Yeah it's nothing but ads in the results anyway
What do you use? I use bing for image search and google still for shopping and general info. For news I use youtube
Same here but it doesnt remove the problem. No traffic and other sites and some hosts will go bankrupt & shut down.
Then theres the consequence of living in a world that gets all their info from the distortion field.
I'm already following you over on "Mean Green"...I need to set up a Locals account.
And yeah, it's past time for Google to be broken up. It's basically Standard Oil on steroids.
Not going to bother using their ai though.
I haven’t used Google since it gave answers to a query of
MEN CAN…
with answers such as…have periods and get pregnant. I still have the Screenshots!
I use BRAVE.
We are well past the point where the Internet needs to be defined as a utility like phones and even cable are. This would solve problems like this. As Google being an ISP would be an agent of the government and subject to The Constitution.
I hope you're not talking about the United States government because man..... That's going to be a rude awakening for you lol
More govt won't help either. If you want more options best would be if America returned to their origins and went forward with more economing freedom. There is so huge regulatory burden on any tech company that no surprise we don't see that many rivals. Just recently a company for which I had a contract released ~100 page fire instruction manual. That's complete nonsense - any sane person will remember at most few core points in case of fire. Now imagine that companies had to hire or pay elsewhere to generate such instruction.
they are the government same as all the other big tech that fall in lockstep with each other and the constitution isnt worth anything as its violated daily with no consequence.
@Max_Ohm I am talking reality, if I had it my way the Federal government would be a quarter the size it is, 3/4 of the Executive Branch Departments would be under the Congress, political parties would be abolished, term limits would be in place for all offices, and corporations influencing in government would be divided into smaller divisions as they have gotten too large, I could go on but my point The Founders would be revolted by the Feds now. But the Internet being categorized as a utility would bring companies like Google under the Constitution and their shitty ToS would be unenforceable.
@Xeverous Its not more government, it's using the existing government to bring extra government entities. Into a status as agents of the government and subject to The Constitution. It's not the optimal solution, it the best one we could realistically get.
Yeah, I don't think this'll work in their favour.
Well I don't like Google but I think I hate MSM more somehow
Different sides of the same toast.
Same team.
@@support2587 Nah, different areas of the same side of the toast.
Sometimes the shadow banning in the comments are so bad from such mundane comments that I just want to punch my keyboard and break it in half so instead of having some extra crunchy trash from busted up keyboards I comment less and just listen.
@@indepthmike5578same
I usually fiddlle with AI to learn how it works and see what I can do with it, like art with visual concept experimentaion, writing after I write how I do it first to sharpen the quality of the grammar and wording, but no lie, I don't trust the one on Google and/or RUclips's because I already figure they are up to something.
The gemini project becoming racist and woke is already a red flag
AI is good with the exact same formula of writing we learned in high school.
Good. You're not supposed to. AI is a tool to enhance your workflow, not a crutch to rely solely on. Keep an active mind, not an open mind.
@BungieStudios I am open minded to try new stuff and that's it. Even then, if I chose to try something fine, but if a Hive mind like Twitter is telling me to try it, I avoid it.
Try to learn drawing (it’s way more fun than AI „Art“)
I haven't used google search since like 2018. I was trying to find articles around US politics and the level of curation was dystopian and frightening.
Everyone thinks Google is independent from the state 😂😂😂 you people still don’t understand!
Google IS the state.
We do understand & that's why I never use them or added apps
@@somethingsburning774 What? You just posted on a google-owned site, so you are using them
Just in time for election
@@somethingsburning774 if you use the internet, or anything related it doesn’t matter…… you’re here, they’re here.
Google is a monopoly. This is how monopolies do business.
Another example of employees that didn't build a company thinking they know better and destroy it.
There was ONE black samauri in their history that spanned hundreds of years and it was towards the end of that time line too.
Companies developing AI need to be forced to pay for the data they use to train their AI. Anytime an AI uses a website to build its LLM responses it should have to pay that website.
Start invoicing Captcha for "data model training". They gain value, you and I should be paid.
Election Fortification
Our congress is not supposed to let companies violate pur constitutional rights if they operate here
How sweet you are to think that Congress actually gives a flying fuck for your constitutional rights. Still, it's a nice thought...
Google has already gave me a stroke twice. That's how much the bug me.😂😂😂👍
HAL: "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that."
Google is a commissar.
One reason why it's good to have a home library.
As a great Starfleet Captain once said “…LET them die”.
So glad i don't use their garbage
What do you use?
@@rinwesley3092Brave search
AI will eventually create a 2010 version of youtube search
Like everything else they touch
“You saw how smart those Columbia students were” 😂😂😂😂😂❤
You know how people like to support local business for the past 2-3 decades... You 're gonna start seeing people supporting human creators.
Just say no to Google.
PSA: Don't do drugs, kids. (at least not any of those brain drestroying ones) :P
Google vies to be Supreme Lord Commander!
Google will end up being the worldwide ministry of information.
JOKE: FACT-CHECK: *AI considers what kind of result stripped of anything remotely "problematic" it could give ... then crashes*
I guarantee this is a massive overstatement.
Have not used google in ages.
Holding a monopoly was never to be in a free market. There are other search engines to use. AI's projects what data has been fed to it.
anyone remember when google was the "don't be evil" company?
yeah they're the opposite now...
This was always how it was going to go. With this, they won’t need control of the mainstream media.
Back in the day yahoo was it, somehow and I can't really put my finger on it Google became Walmart and yahoo went through way of Kmart. Time to get rid of Google!
On the contrary... there were far more engines then just Yahoo... There was Web Crawler, Lycos, Alta Vista, Excite, Ask Jeeves, Dogpile, Who Is, Archie, Gopher, Info Seek, Jughead, and Baidu... There was even a lesser known graphical engine called Kartoo where each word would generate a constellation of associated possibilities, kind of like the autofill suggestions, and you could just jump from point to point and easily find related material or refine it even further.
@@edwardpaulsen1074 yes, and there are still many, BUT YAHOO was the most widely used.
I’m glad I use other browsers
That's fine, but what is your default search engine?
@@maidenminnesota1 Brave
Was windering why my search traffic has been coming from other search engines outside of Google. I don't get much search traffic from Google any more.
If only they could be broken up at this point. Give the market share to all the alternatives.
This is why I know the USA is lost...
… and all of my former colleagues in big tech that rooted this shit on will soon be scraping for work. Mark my words !!
Then you're already ahead of the 90% who think we're voting our way out of this.
Agreed, and it's exactly why my parents and I won't vote in the next elections either because it doesn't make one bit of difference whatsoever, unfortunately as a 35 yr guy I have a lot of time ahead of me because if I was elderly already I really wouldn't be concerned about the future all that much.
@@indepthmike5578 Choosing not to vote isn't the answer. That gives Democrats/ liberals more advantage. I see people keep saying this. However let's say if they actually check an election results and count conservative votes, yours can't be voted and it adds to the overall issue. I'm going to vote because it's the right thing to do.
@@user-tj9de9os4i There's nothing that can stop it now. Even pew pews won't work.
Use a different search engine.
As far as I heard,DDG is also compromised
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 America - this crap is NOT LEGAL 🇺🇸Falcon Eagle Eye🇺🇸 - We the People will FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FOR AMERICAN FREEDOM 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 🇺🇸T 🇺🇸R🇺🇸U🇺🇸M🇺🇸P🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
There's a reason why they removed the "Do Be Evil" in their code of conduct.
So, no more 230 protections for Google then? Awesome.
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (47 U.S. Code § 230) doesn't differentiate between platform and publisher. It simply says that an interactive computer service cannot be held accountable for speech of its users. In other words, and as Section 230 clearly says, "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider."
In fact, also and separately, it specifically shields interactive computer services for their choices to moderate, and the only basis that is needed to qualify for such a shield is the service's own opinion that the content is objectionable. This protection is not based on any conditions of how the platform must behave, such as by being neutral. There is no requirement anywhere in the law that such interactive computer services need be neutral or any such thing. In fact, any such law would be unconstitutional because of the freedoms of speech, property, association, and contract. Such a law would also likely be unconstitutional as a taking without compensation. Notably, this liability shield is precisely that: a shield; it in no way criminalizes or makes anything tortious.
The liability shield section stands independently from the anti-publisher protection. Even if something would disqualify an interactive computer service from one, the other wouldn't necessarily be invalidated. This is signaled by the lack of any language in the law demonstrating such a mechanic.
Legal challenges to Section 230 at the Supreme Court recently failed on other grounds. See Gonzalez v. Google LLC, 143 S. Ct. 1191, 215 L.Ed.2d 555 (2023) and Twitter, Inc. v. Taamneh, 143 S. Ct. 1206, 215 L.Ed.2d 444 (2023).
Right-socialist myths to the contrary are just that: myths.
Additionally, the 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis, 143 S. Ct. 2298, 216 L.Ed.2d 1131 (2023) case further confirms that social media cannot be constitutionally compelled to speak (such as by being forced to host your speech).
Oral arguments on NetChoice & CCIA v. Paxton, 144 S. Ct. 275, 217 L.Ed.2d 125 (2023), and Moody v. NetChoice and CCIA, 144 S. Ct. 478, 216 L.Ed.2d 1313 (2023), were recently heard by the Supreme Court on February 26, 2024. In these, Florida's and Texas's laws attempting to force social media to (effectively) operate as common carriers were challenged on the first amendment and other grounds. Based on the responses from the justices, the laws will likely be rightly struck down. (I personally am guessing a 6-3, with Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas in the dissent). The most likely rationale for the majority opinion is that the first amendment generally prohibits the government from compelling speech, as it was seen in the 303 Creative case. Justice Kavanaugh summarized it well: the First Amendment protects private actors against government censorship; it does not allow the government to tell private actors what they must publish.
Lastly, the current Supreme Court's adherence to strict separation of powers via the major questions doctrine means that any law purporting to restrict interactive computer services, such as in the style the myths claim, would need to be unambiguously passed by Congress. As explained above, Section 230 does not even purport to do that. (Separately, there is no applicable power under Article I, Section 8 of the constitution for such a federal law.)
What happened to that monopoly clause.............
"Clause?"
Google paying millions in news industry in Canada.
Yeah, Kneon from Clownfish Gaming has been talking about this for quite a while now. He's been ringing this particular alarm bell for some time all the while no-one really listens because they can't see farther than the next quarterly earnings.
Everyone has been suckling from the teat of big Tech for so long that I'm fairly sure there'll be a lot of people who are now looking forward to the upcoming AI-fest that's now here.
Actual article: This person acted inappropriately towards his daughter in the shower.
Google AI summary: This person is a great guy and everybody loves him.
Well... I don't feel sorry for the MSM but other than that... its been a fun ride.
The digital grip on our lives tightens!
Baba booey
Google's search has been garbage for years. Every now and then I'll go give them a shot again but the results are completely useless. It baffles me how they have 90% of the market -- but also explains a lot about how the world is just going to ish.
I think it's designed more as an additional revenue stream for Google. They can practically blackmail the news media with this.
What will be funny is if Mainstream Media actually brings this up on National Television and advises viewers to not use Google when searching for news articles.
In fairness to Google's outlandish usage percentage, it's not their fault normies use them for everything, instead of typing in the website they want. About 80% of their traffic could be stopped if people stopped googling a site to get there. It's a weird laziness with an extra step.
This is why I've started using Rumble more and more. There's still some creators on RUclips that still have yet to make the jump over to Rumble; that hopefully changes in the near future. Great video btw.
We have to put pressure on Trump and non neocon Republicans to break up chewgle.
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”
If creators put their content on Rumble I would leave RUclips.