Timestamps: Part I: Intro / My Battlefield Origin - 00:00 Part II: The Importance of the Server Browser - 09:40 Part III: The History of Matchmaking in Battlefield - 24:35 Part IV: The Long Term Effect of Mandatory Matchmaking - 34:08 Part V: The Way Forward - 38:40
2042 was so soul draining but I managed to find a small group on PS5. Most have moved on but there is one guy that has even come to a recent bbq I had. That is a friend for life.
It's not even just battlefield, bluntly the server browser as the method of finding games serves to build communities in MP games like nothing else. Look at how anemic and toxic TF2's community became after they scrapped the server browser!
Well, also Valve stopped giving an f. about TF 2 since it lost its popularity and no longer is in its prime and makes the least out of all things Valve.
Big gaming companies like EA have long waged war on organized communities like clans and leagues. Communities often want to play a single good game for very long time and can be slow/hesitant to switch games. Communities can keep an old game alive for decades and EA would much rather have some older games die and be forgoten about so they can blatantly pretend they never happened(*cought* star wars battlefront 1&2 *cought* ) Mindless crowds of gamers funneled together into random lobbies by match making,is what is more financialy viable for these large corps(or so they believe) as it trains a mass of consumer gamers increasingly unattached to what ever they play,but ready to drop buck on "the next big thing" .
@@diamondhamster4320 oh ya, forgot those games exist. tf2 is stll pretty successful though, just because its not the literally number 1 game on steam, doesnt mean its not big. being a top 15 game on steam, is pretty big in my opinion.
I can 100% relate to your intro story. Even though I am 50 now I found my community the same way. Joined them (their clan, which is now my clan as well) and for those that stuck around we still play together as time allows (some weeks every night, some weeks only once or twice, but at least every Friday as this is Battlefield-Friday). We did recruit new players that way with our servers and even meet from time to time in real live (we live all across Germany with one guy from Switzerland). And yes, we still use TeamSpeak. ;) Because of the lack of a server browser and the inability to host proper servers with our custom tools we were and still are unable to attract new members, so your clan is dying (sadly, literally as well). If the next BF will not bring any server browser and the ability to host our own servers again -- which I assume it will not -- then this will be the end of our gaming community. And maybe the BF community as a whole and BF will just be 'another shooter'.
i want to play my 24/7 hard core servers running TDM/rush/conquest, its how a portion of the battlefield playerbase feels like and cant do in modern battlefield games because its not an option anymore. whenever i play BF4 i hop into the same couple servers i played 8 years ago, always running the same fun maps and modes in hardcore mode i enjoy. now 2042 have no community, it feels soulles because of it, no wonder most games nowadays feel lonely
Same story for me. I started play alone in bf2, after sometimes i joined a team speak with people i have played with. Now around 20 years later some of them are friends for life. And we did mostly play in 2-3 servers sandviken and battlefield gotland servers. I guess if the game did not have a server browser i should not have those friends today. And we still use teamspeak today. keep up the good work with the videos!
Absolutely brilliant look at this. Great video as always. I really like that you have covered the flaw in the data they seem to be using to say it isn't required. Hide an option then say nooone uses it so it's not needed. An alternative would be to make it super easy to use and push it as the main option or at least an equivalent. I remember so many community nights, competitive games, communities and platoons, everyone brought together....and now, a maximum of 3 friends can join 'easily' if you want to play on a public server and then its rinse and repeat on the same maps - or worse a server boots up with noone in it repeatedly. Let's hope someone, somewhere sees sense because what we have doesn't. Anyway, cracking video, you never know I guess.
100% agreed. The server browser is the only reason I play BF5 and the lack of it is the reason I no longer play 2042. No browser in the next one, I'll pass
Server browser does wonders for the longevity of a video game. Bf4 and bf1 are testament to this. Even the first gears of war had a server browser and now they fixed it you can find matches on it almost every other time
My personal story is I found my current platoon during the BF3 (though i started playing in BF2) days and we still play to this day people come and go there used to be maybe 11-16 of us in a game and in TS at a time during those day now there is 2 of us left who actively still play together, while adding some new fresh faces when we find them. Most of the old team left due to the lack of server hosting. But the one who still plays with me on a regular basis is invited to my wedding next year as we've met a fair few times over the years and we've been gaming together on Battlefield for over a decade! I think i know few other people who ive made such bonds with and those were during the PEAK WoW days. A serverbrowser is a MUST HAVE community feature and i think the future of Battlefield actually depends on it, 2042s match making has torn down all forms community building and most of portal is just nonsense servers and XP farms....
Nailed every point. I started playing Battlefield with BF2 and the series has definitely suffered a sad decline in the most recent games, especially 2042. Extremely frustrating to experience the game without a server browser, basically removing any community aspect the game could have had and denying people the option to select a map to play. I would have honestly enjoyed 2042 so much more if I could have at least filtered out maps. If the next BF title doesn't have a server browser with community server support I may not even try it.
Pretty crazy how much I can relate to your story. I have a very similar experience with Cod4/Promod and have made several friends for life from shared experiences
Server browser is essentially the thing that gave me my first online community and friends. I can still see several people from Battlefield 3 era who are using the same online nickname in my Discord channels, which has replaced the forums, teamspeak and/or mumble. Deteriorated Battlefield franchise opened other games and activities to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Content creators on RUclips, Twitch or elsewhere cannot rely on this franchise to keep an active audience. Community of a game needs a server browser or a clan based hub. Both preferably. Casual and not hardcover players both are wasting the most precious commodity without server browser: Time. Time between active playing is longer than ever in BF 2042. Battlefield was my first and biggest online game, close to being biggest ever video game of my 50 years on this earth. I've accepted that will most assuredly never return, but a feature complete product that values my TIME is still a dream. Great video again, hope Dice and EA see this and hear our voice.
Thanks @GravityBFTV for the intro! Honestly, I cried a little when I watched it. It touched me to the core. After all, I had almost everything the same, only I started in 2005. God, there was so much going on, I met so many interesting people, we played so much together...Fan wars, clan wars, gathered detachments, united into clans, built giant communities, created mods, created creative videos...I keep a lot of recordings from teamspeak and the game itself. There are even people on them who, by coincidence, are no longer alive. I keep it as a memory, like photos or videos from a wedding are stored. Some of the players have become my friends in real life. All thanks to that very old bf2. The new parts can't give me that, they can hardly even satisfy the need for a banal game. How can we deal with current developers if nothing affects them and they do not understand our feelings? How? If they don't care, and money is more important to them.
You have done an incredible job! I hope people will appreciate your work and you will earn people's respect for covering this important topic! I wish you all the best!
Those unique games and friendships defined Battlefield for us. We need this magic in the next Battlefield. Some of my best friends today, were from meeting on a community server in Battlefield.
Really good video, agree on all points. It's hard fact that good old DICE is dead, most veteran devs left after BF1 and you really feel it. EA don't care about the old school gamers which made the BF series so big. So I don't care anymore too, I switched to the "hardcore shooters" like Arma, Squad and HLL. When Delta Force (new) is more BF then BF5 and BF2042, then you know they are in bad shape.
Battlefield 6 should definetly have a Sever Browser. I'm totally with you here. Had so much fun on so many different Servers. Admin Abuse is an excuse i've heard... The most/best Players always ignored those Servers. Only good Communitys had Full Servers so there cant be any complain if you choose to play on the wrong Servers.
Region locking the matchmaking is the most dumb thing they could do with this system. Outside of when they're in the event week thing, us in OCE region can't play Rush and Breakthrough anymore, even then we'd be lucky to get a full server once during that week, it's depressing. All we can play most of the time is Conquest and TDM.. Why not just let me auto connect to Asian servers like what most other FPS games do? Least on the other BF games I can play them in other regions, I sometimes play in a Singapore Operations server on BF1, baffling how 2042 is so ass backwards.
@@TeaManuel Yeah man, it's shit. It's a mix of population issues and players honestly just don't know variety. 2042 is just dead so I can see why no one would be playing Breakthrough anymore, but even BF5, on playstation we have 3 full OCE Conquest servers everyday, why not 2 CQ and 1 Breakthrough, or something different? Conquest for me is just so stale, I can only play it for a couple matches before I get bored aha. I just wish we had variety in our servers. At least on PC BF5 we have an OCE Breakthrough but can't play with my console mates.
still so incredibly frustrated with DICE’s decision to not include a server browser with their star wars battlefront games AND with a future update in SWBFII that forced players to search for a new game only after two matches, like 2042’s core matchmaking it is so difficult to play certain maps due to the constant server switchover and renders less popular game modes completely dead due to matchmaking taking hours (which didn’t need to happen)
Great video with great points. You speak for me and I suspect thousands of others who were infuriated with the dilution of the SB and its ultimate culling in 2042. I really hope DICE pay attention and bring back this "legacy feature" although I suspect that's a brutal expectation!
This reminds me of 2012/13 when my brother and I was finally allowed to play medal of honor allied assault breakthrough, I would go and join the same few servers and even though i was in my early teens and the rest were older guys I recognized others on a daily basis and eventually tallked to them in the chat or exchanged a hello. Still play, and see various same people, some from back then but not many. For battlefield i usually stick to a few same too, and on bf1 I joined [BUDz] I usually play alone but it's fun being part of it. BF2042 I enjoy but it sucks when you get a round with a great squad that works well together only to them part ways once the match is done. I enjoy the game but some times its annoying having to join a new server.
This is a great video to raise awareness of the importance of server browsers in the Battlefield series. DICE may not return to the 'old school' yet better method for the playable state of their games but it's definitely worth trying to highlight the significance of this subject, those two last minutes were really impactful. Thank you for putting so much time and effort for making this video, Grav. ❤
@@shazb0lt yes... As far as I could tell he was talking about the importance of having a server browser vs just having matchmaking as far as I could tell... I'm just confused why he didn't even mention the server browser the game does have and acted like there's only matchmaking.
@@damegataco He did talk about the server browser in Portal right at 36:02 and referred to it as a possible last saving grace of the game in theory. He was not "acting" like that because the only way to normally play BF2042's main core experience like in previous BFs, which is All-Out Warfare, is through matchmaking, and AoW lacks a server browser.
basically the internet has tried its hardest to destroy user communities, and by internet I mean the powers that be. Forums, servers, anything that could foster tight nit unity between like minded people has been destroyed. It's a danger to our democracy. This video hits right in the feels. I've never felt more alone while simultaneously being "connected" to so many people. It's a joke. We've gone down a dark timeline that's for sure. BF was my childhood, COD too. Rip to my buddies who haven't made it this far into this dystopian future.
In Battlefield 1, matchmaking works pretty well for conquest and for the weekly featured mode. Operations is hit or miss (you may get in a game, or you may get on an empty server) Note: this is on PC, for Europe region
That's like tearing up an old wound that never quite heals, reading those words. Gamer communities might never be the same. Forums, clans, platoons. Now it's quick play with random people you'll likely never find again.
This is my story as well mate, such a big community back then. Never seen it since, which is so weird. Not in Battlefield or many other games. Instance based servers really remove this element. Discord does an okay job of simulating forums, but it doesn't do it as well as forums did.
That’s why I like True trophies and and Trueachivments because you can always find like mind BF COD Halo or gears players depending if you set up scheduled sessions for casual achivements boosting or competitive play or coop if you just want to play with people and make friendships you can do that they usally always have mics
Crazy that this video even needs to be made. Only thing they really have to do with the server browser is make it a more efficient browser. They usually kinda suck and don’t show the right info ever.
They have so much work to do for the next BF (60% games with terrible server sync been the main one for me, closely followed by balancing the airpower) Private servers were always a great thing to have. Going back to BF1942 there were some great communities. We could have clan friendlies or just all jump on randomly. Games were so much better. We also had control kicking cheats and trolls. Now you have to server jump. Been gaming with some of the same people I joined over 20 years ago. (BF V had the best inf based mechanics)
Pretty shameful that 2042 will wither far faster as DICE was too embarrassed about it’s playerbase size to add one. It just feels like wasted effort on the game to me
Thanks for this! Ive played all BF iterations up to BF1 since 1942. You sir are 100% correct. I played BF4 in a competitive league, I was introduced while being teamed up with a league team and I didn't even know. But they were impressed by my Tank skills and they needed a tank operator in 5 v 5s. The chat and comm's allowed them to contact me while in game and well that is how I got into competitive BF gaming. We also used to run a practice server for the team. How do teams even do that now? BF1 I purchased, but its not BF, so I didn't play it much. You just nailed the reason this franchise is dying. (Has died) Adding my 2 cents to your vid. The introduction of console gaming is destroying PC gaming. BF is at its roots a PC game and this added to its downfall.
As one of those new players (albeit one who defaulted to using the server browsers, as I’m still coming from a PC FPS background), is there a secret to using BF4’s server browser? In BFV and BF1 it is extremely easy to find matches through it, but *every* server on BF4 seems to be spoofing their player counts, leading me to constantly join empty games. That’s happened a handful of times in BF1 as well, but it’s not hard to avoid, whereas BF4 seems basically unusable with how frequently the match turns out to be fake, unless I’m missing something.
I'm pretty sure that in the future quality of life updates is going to be DICE improving the Server Browser that can look similar to bf3 and bf4. I'm looking forward to see some one map 24/7 matches like Metro 24/7 in bf3 and Locker 24/7 in bf4. Redacted and haven look really good as a 24/7 rotation. I think bf2042 is going to last a lot longer once DICE gives more love to the Server Browser.
Dirty bomb and Enemy Territory are still playable thanks to the server browser. Tribes 3 is already unplayable without server browser. Matchmaking can only work is the game has a huge number of players when it's released.
My absolute favorite part of 2042's matchmaking is it'll put me in an empty lobby on a map I despise (there are a lot of those in 2042), I'll leave to requeue, and then it'll continue to put me in the same dead lobby until I either alt+f4 or am forced to play another game mode. So much more convenient than say BF4 where I can just go to battlelog, click on a server I want to play on with the map and ruleset I like,, and be in the game in 30 seconds despite the game being over a decade old.
Great video, it's sad to see that 2042 will never get a proper server browser. The Portal browser might help but doesn't really count for much imo since those servers arent truly persistent nor do they backfill from people using quickmatch options.
It's so funny because I thought I stopped playing the game as I was getting out of high school and becoming an adult just because life took over. But I remember getting on battlefield 1 in battlefield v and there was no server browser on the PS4 and it just being annoying and I actually played battlefield 4 a couple years ago on the PC and it was amazing cuz it had the server browser and I was always playing on the same server. It was fun
I’ve been saying this on every forum since 2042 began. I’m also really tired of the argument that a server browser and persistent servers leads to nothing but team stacks. This matchmaking and forced cross play has really pushed a lot of console veterans away. We are just remnants now of several platoons because of these awful decisions.
I think the other issue Battlefield suffered from admittedly is that its default servers didn't give you variety. You had all these game modes, but nobody would play anything but Conquest, or Rush, depending on which battlefield we're talking about, because the rest of the game modes would be empty, even if they were interested. Sure, Battlefield had a bunch of terrible game modes, but it also had a bunch of fun ones, but nowadays you don't see anything but Conquest. If you wanted to play anything else but Conquest, you could pretty much go screw yourself. This goes back to the variety issue. Also speaking on the shortage of maps, even going as far back as Battlefield 4, you couldn't get every single map in a server queue. I remember because I used to admin a server and I'd have to do reboots once or twice every day to change up the maps that were in the rotation, otherwise we'd be just playing only about 90% of the game's maps. The other issue Battlefield suffered from was that at end of life a year or two after release, they should just give everyone the maps for free. Not necessarily the guns if you still want to charge for the DLC, but restricting the maps kills off all of the DLC maps for those who don't have them. Which in turn splits the player base and shrinks it even smaller. It also shrinks the amount of variety that even players who do pay for the DLC can play. Which goes back to the other issue of Battlefield's game modes. They would frequently make DLC game modes, but it would only be available for DLC maps. So you'd get great game modes like close quarters or air superiority, but they would never get enough gameplay because they're restricted to a single DLC set. That's excluding the fact that there was no mixed game modes lobbies from the get-go, so these game modes basically never got played. Titanfall did this way better, even without a server browser, by making it so that you would just queue into mixed game modes Which kept Titanfall alive for longer, despite the fact that it doesn't have a server browser.
True i'm a fan of BF Series since BF bad company 2 but now with 2042 i can't find games because i'm in middle east with region locked all the games are empty unless i use another 3rd party apps to change the servers or block middle east ip to force the game to get me in Europe servers
Now, fast forward to 2024, where you go to BF2042 and all you see are people talking sh to you for playing that game Like regular Reddit users go there with intent to crap on you for playing the game. I build servers in BF2042 Portal currently and I love it Portal and legacy factions of 1942, BF3 and Bad Comapny 2 are a saving grace for BF2042 to me
Part of why i am so god tier at Battlefield is due to in 3 and 4 my friends and I would play hardcore only clan servers. Harder rules, sweatier players. You get better much faster when you compete in the sweat leagues lol. Now its skill based, which kinda ruins it.
Not unquie to BF. All major AAA big name PvP games and franchises from all major devs and publishers are pushing this anti-community narrative. They just want you to buy, play and don`t think or engage any further - just consume the product, be happy and wait for more product.
I’ve been saying for years now “how can they release 2042 with no browser??!!” They actively delete Reddit posts that ask this question. Makes no sense other than my theory they simply don’t want anyone seeing actual player numbers.
2042 is unplayable in Australia outside of like 4-11pm even with crossplay. BF1 & BF5 on the other hand i can just join any of the 10 full Singapore servers with 90 ping any time of the day. For someone who finishes work at 11pm the game is fully unplayable for me.
Oath, OCE is shit house for gaming tbh. For me personally the hours isn't the issue, it's the modes we are limited to play. Most of the time we can only play Conquest, across all BF games, though recently there has been a Breakthrough up and active on PC BF5 most late arvo/evenings, but other than that it's just Conquest. Even on 2042, we'd be lucky to get half a server of Breakthrough or Rush XL when it's features on the weekly mode thing. I just miss having variety in this region. Conquest gets so boring so quick.
This is an excellent and important video, and I fully agree with its message. I will share it with the community. I'm concerned that the gaming industry is now focusing on having shorter game life cycles, releasing new titles every year to maximize profits. Capitalism is killing communities, and with it, gaming as we know it :( Hope to see a change in the industry, this kind of videos will help with that
no hate but your assessment of the industry is funny because it is the exact OPPOSITE lol you cant release yearly sequels anymore like in the BF refractor days because games are too complex now, and MP games are chasing GAAS, resulting in the same game being played for years they just dont want the community to have any control over the experience anymore
@@MKR3238 no worries and fair enough, Im not an "industry insider", it's just my view as a costumer and gamer. In my industry Im facing the same problems as, I assume, gaming companies do: investors and shareholders pressing down budgets and opex costs, only focusing on optimizing profits on the cost of the existing infrastructure. If it is just a question of control, which motives lay behind that? Control of what? Egoistic game devs who want players to play the game the way they intended? I don't know the answer but it would be way more sad if the core of the problem would be the devs themselves... I more think publishers like EA want this control to be able to shut down games when they want them to shut down so that players move to their next title and they can save the server (opex) costs of old titles. Maybe not every year, but at least when they want to. In the end, this would be then the point I tried to make earlier ;)
@@smokersally6469 oh its definitely not the devs but c-suite and people with MBAs trying to figure out how to extract the most out of your customers. lets say custom servers would offer you faster progression so you are less inclined to pay or grind for skins or weapons, thats a big no-no for them. i don't think this is the complete picture but i believe at least part of why Player hosted servers are gone the way of the dodo (with the exception of more niche/pc focused games)
Conspiracy theory, but they knew the matchmaking button would kill the game, and that's the intended purpose to get people to buy the next Battlefield game. The only difference was they were too stupid to realize this Battlefield game would just die with no successor.
I don't get the big picture with this centralised matchmaking, allowing community host/rent servers just takes the weight of running a server off EA. Like sure for console matchmaking works quite well since the worst cheats on console are xim/cronus
Step 1: Find Battlefield 4 server Step 2: See a bunch of chopper w**res with 120 KD already Step 3: Find another Battlefield 4 server Step 4: Have FUN BF2042: Find BF2042 Server Browser Play said server OR Make your own server and play yourself
Frankly unbelievable when i get to see your UI design just as im warming up to 2042 only to be reminded that modern DICE cant design anything and it takes someone like you to design an actually decent UI that caters to both casuals and hardcore fans
I don't think politics has anything to do with gaming. Politics is about money ultimately. Which is why they, left right and center, are ruining gaming into another revenue stream instead of fun experience.
@@Billy_bSLAYER How is the left leaning or woke showing in this game exactly? Everyone surely agrees it has nowhere near enough content, the content is bad, design choices are bad, aiming is broken etc. But where's the socialism, blue haired they them?
@djnorth2020 considering the public statements they've made with things like BFV's representation of women and the crap they've been talking about with All-chat, I would believe that.
the hard truth of our time they already value quantity over quality - they do their best not to buy their games ( in my opinion this is dying sector ) .
Isn't the portal a server browser? ... I'm confused what you're expecting Edit: Do you literally just not know how to find the server list in Battlefield 2042? Edit 2: Dude have you ever gone to Portal-->browse... It's literally EXACTLY what you're saying isn't in the game.
Portal does not have official servers in it, and Portal has major issues when it comes to actual community servers. Like next to no admin controls and tools.
@@TorbisXD holy fuck I have tried to type out this response like 5x times and keep accidentally closing it after getting like paragraphs in so here's the short version. It makes sense that they need to improve the admin controls as that's a huge oversight, but as far as official servers that's not really as much of a necessity especially if they fixed the previous issue due to there being more accessibility to hardware to maintain a server and fast internet connection than there used to be. I feel the main reason there's not as much of a player base is a much more complex problem that stems from the fact that there's not as much of an interest in playing games online as there used to be. When I say used to be I am referring to back in the day of the infancy of xbox live where most everyone received a free headset with their console and would actually use it. Not only that, but they would do more than just be toxic assholes as being able to chat with new people and also being capable of acting as a team in real-time was something that was not as easy to accomplish as it was before then. These days it's either the novelty has worn off for some people while others just never had the experience of playing online and only having text chat as best to try to work as a team as having a mic wasn't as common or in game chat wasn't really supported while chatting via an external program wasn't as simple as starting a discord call. The last issue is that people don't really need to interact with other folks in the game to interact with others thanks to the capability to stream their game... Who wants to risk chatting with assholes and trolls who will literally just harass people for the lulz (and not playfully like back in the day) when they can just interact with an established streamer audience they've built up over time. So yeah... While the complaints about the server hosting are valid I don't think that's necessarily the main reason why the game wasn't as popular as people expected. Anyways before I find to accidentally delete all this imma end it here.
46 minute video lol. I haven't watched the video and tbqh I don't plan to but I'm sure that every conceivable argument in favor of the server browser can be explored in detail in under ten minutes. Brevity is the soul of wit, pal.
@@LordAngelus that's what I think, there are no server browsers, the players opposite there are always several players who know how to play well compared to the old BF where we only came up against noobs, they added AI bots
The first Battlefield I purchased was 1942 and everyone up to BF1. More than likely BF1 will be the last I purchase because of Dice's insistence on woke BS. I want no part of BF5, with it's fairytale "historical" accuracy and 2042 with it "boss babe" nonsense. I want to get lost in the game NOT be constantly bombarded with "the message" by virtue signalling losers. What we spend our money on is the ONLY power we as consumers have and I choose to exercise that power as, we have seen, do many others. The only BF I play multiplayer on is still BF2 and sometimes BF4, especially because of their redone BF2 maps such as Dragon Valley. The one comment about the community server capability, or lack thereof in the most recent games, I will say is that NONE of these recent games will still be being played almost 20 years later because without community server capability on independent providers the game will only last until EA/Dice keeps their servers running. After that you have another useless listing in your Steam or Origin library...
None of the problems with BFV and 2042 have anything to do with "the message". There's no woke blue haired they thems yelling their pronouns anywhere in either game. And there's no discrimination of any minority or majority either. It's a non-issue. But you're 100% on that these modern games will not be played it viewed in positive nostalgia like previous titles.
To take away the server browser is just so stupid on so many levels Let players themself decide what map/mode THEY want to play ffs Without a server browser all social aspects are also sucked out of the game Reason 2464562 why i never touched 2042
Timestamps:
Part I: Intro / My Battlefield Origin - 00:00
Part II: The Importance of the Server Browser - 09:40
Part III: The History of Matchmaking in Battlefield - 24:35
Part IV: The Long Term Effect of Mandatory Matchmaking - 34:08
Part V: The Way Forward - 38:40
Dunno, there are some regions infamous enough to get justifiably region locked esp. in MMOs and other MP genres.
Nah, operation harsh doorstop
2042 was so soul draining but I managed to find a small group on PS5. Most have moved on but there is one guy that has even come to a recent bbq I had. That is a friend for life.
It's not even just battlefield, bluntly the server browser as the method of finding games serves to build communities in MP games like nothing else. Look at how anemic and toxic TF2's community became after they scrapped the server browser!
Well, also Valve stopped giving an f. about TF 2 since it lost its popularity and no longer is in its prime and makes the least out of all things Valve.
Big gaming companies like EA have long waged war on organized communities like clans and leagues.
Communities often want to play a single good game for very long time and can be slow/hesitant to switch games.
Communities can keep an old game alive for decades and EA would much rather have some older games die and be forgoten about so they can blatantly pretend they never happened(*cought* star wars battlefront 1&2 *cought* )
Mindless crowds of gamers funneled together into random lobbies by match making,is what is more financialy viable for these large corps(or so they believe) as it trains a mass of consumer gamers increasingly unattached to what ever they play,but ready to drop buck on "the next big thing" .
Tf2 still has more player on it then any other valve game.
@@fizz_time7003 Haha. No. Dota 2 and CS2.
@@diamondhamster4320 oh ya, forgot those games exist. tf2 is stll pretty successful though, just because its not the literally number 1 game on steam, doesnt mean its not big. being a top 15 game on steam, is pretty big in my opinion.
I can 100% relate to your intro story. Even though I am 50 now I found my community the same way. Joined them (their clan, which is now my clan as well) and for those that stuck around we still play together as time allows (some weeks every night, some weeks only once or twice, but at least every Friday as this is Battlefield-Friday). We did recruit new players that way with our servers and even meet from time to time in real live (we live all across Germany with one guy from Switzerland).
And yes, we still use TeamSpeak. ;)
Because of the lack of a server browser and the inability to host proper servers with our custom tools we were and still are unable to attract new members, so your clan is dying (sadly, literally as well). If the next BF will not bring any server browser and the ability to host our own servers again -- which I assume it will not -- then this will be the end of our gaming community. And maybe the BF community as a whole and BF will just be 'another shooter'.
Another passionate video about Battlefield of GravityBFTV. Seeing this is like be in home somehow, kudos from a veteran BF player. Thx for the vid
Wonderfully articulated sir. Well done and thank you for the thought and effort you put into this.
i want to play my 24/7 hard core servers running TDM/rush/conquest, its how a portion of the battlefield playerbase feels like and cant do in modern battlefield games because its not an option anymore. whenever i play BF4 i hop into the same couple servers i played 8 years ago, always running the same fun maps and modes in hardcore mode i enjoy. now 2042 have no community, it feels soulles because of it, no wonder most games nowadays feel lonely
BF4 is like going to the bar and seeing the same legends that were there 8 years ago. 😊 It's good company, or bad company 😅
100% Agreed
What a great BF channel!
Your BF2042 UI creation is better than the original, well done, Dice should hire you.
Same story for me. I started play alone in bf2, after sometimes i joined a team speak with people i have played with. Now around 20 years later some of them are friends for life. And we did mostly play in 2-3 servers sandviken and battlefield gotland servers. I guess if the game did not have a server browser i should not have those friends today. And we still use teamspeak today. keep up the good work with the videos!
Oh Battlefield 2s Gotland servers, miss this time man :')
@@s1nek17 what nick did you have ? :)
If I were at EA, I would have hired you for a new role called the Director of Creative Solutions. I miss the community mate.
Absolutely brilliant look at this. Great video as always. I really like that you have covered the flaw in the data they seem to be using to say it isn't required. Hide an option then say nooone uses it so it's not needed. An alternative would be to make it super easy to use and push it as the main option or at least an equivalent. I remember so many community nights, competitive games, communities and platoons, everyone brought together....and now, a maximum of 3 friends can join 'easily' if you want to play on a public server and then its rinse and repeat on the same maps - or worse a server boots up with noone in it repeatedly. Let's hope someone, somewhere sees sense because what we have doesn't. Anyway, cracking video, you never know I guess.
Thanks so much! :)
100% agreed. The server browser is the only reason I play BF5 and the lack of it is the reason I no longer play 2042. No browser in the next one, I'll pass
Server browser does wonders for the longevity of a video game. Bf4 and bf1 are testament to this. Even the first gears of war had a server browser and now they fixed it you can find matches on it almost every other time
My personal story is I found my current platoon during the BF3 (though i started playing in BF2) days and we still play to this day people come and go there used to be maybe 11-16 of us in a game and in TS at a time during those day now there is 2 of us left who actively still play together, while adding some new fresh faces when we find them. Most of the old team left due to the lack of server hosting. But the one who still plays with me on a regular basis is invited to my wedding next year as we've met a fair few times over the years and we've been gaming together on Battlefield for over a decade! I think i know few other people who ive made such bonds with and those were during the PEAK WoW days. A serverbrowser is a MUST HAVE community feature and i think the future of Battlefield actually depends on it, 2042s match making has torn down all forms community building and most of portal is just nonsense servers and XP farms....
Nailed every point. I started playing Battlefield with BF2 and the series has definitely suffered a sad decline in the most recent games, especially 2042. Extremely frustrating to experience the game without a server browser, basically removing any community aspect the game could have had and denying people the option to select a map to play. I would have honestly enjoyed 2042 so much more if I could have at least filtered out maps. If the next BF title doesn't have a server browser with community server support I may not even try it.
Neo-DICE is a terrible developer imo.
Pretty crazy how much I can relate to your story. I have a very similar experience with Cod4/Promod and have made several friends for life from shared experiences
Yes, I think CoD MW2 2009 was the first one without a server browser on PC? That was bad...thankfully the first black ops had one again.
Server browser is essentially the thing that gave me my first online community and friends. I can still see several people from Battlefield 3 era who are using the same online nickname in my Discord channels, which has replaced the forums, teamspeak and/or mumble.
Deteriorated Battlefield franchise opened other games and activities to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Content creators on RUclips, Twitch or elsewhere cannot rely on this franchise to keep an active audience.
Community of a game needs a server browser or a clan based hub. Both preferably. Casual and not hardcover players both are wasting the most precious commodity without server browser: Time. Time between active playing is longer than ever in BF 2042.
Battlefield was my first and biggest online game, close to being biggest ever video game of my 50 years on this earth. I've accepted that will most assuredly never return, but a feature complete product that values my TIME is still a dream.
Great video again, hope Dice and EA see this and hear our voice.
Thanks @GravityBFTV for the intro! Honestly, I cried a little when I watched it. It touched me to the core. After all, I had almost everything the same, only I started in 2005. God, there was so much going on, I met so many interesting people, we played so much together...Fan wars, clan wars, gathered detachments, united into clans, built giant communities, created mods, created creative videos...I keep a lot of recordings from teamspeak and the game itself. There are even people on them who, by coincidence, are no longer alive. I keep it as a memory, like photos or videos from a wedding are stored. Some of the players have become my friends in real life. All thanks to that very old bf2. The new parts can't give me that, they can hardly even satisfy the need for a banal game. How can we deal with current developers if nothing affects them and they do not understand our feelings? How? If they don't care, and money is more important to them.
You have done an incredible job! I hope people will appreciate your work and you will earn people's respect for covering this important topic! I wish you all the best!
Those unique games and friendships defined Battlefield for us. We need this magic in the next Battlefield. Some of my best friends today, were from meeting on a community server in Battlefield.
Really good video, agree on all points. It's hard fact that good old DICE is dead, most veteran devs left after BF1 and you really feel it. EA don't care about the old school gamers which made the BF series so big. So I don't care anymore too, I switched to the "hardcore shooters" like Arma, Squad and HLL. When Delta Force (new) is more BF then BF5 and BF2042, then you know they are in bad shape.
Battlefield 6 should definetly have a Sever Browser. I'm totally with you here. Had so much fun on so many different Servers. Admin Abuse is an excuse i've heard... The most/best Players always ignored those Servers. Only good Communitys had Full Servers so there cant be any complain if you choose to play on the wrong Servers.
At this point, given Battlefield 5's failure and Battlefield 2042's failure, I highly doubt there will be a Battlefield 6 anytime in the near future.
@@Tealdragon204 Already almost "done" and expected to launch next year (yeah given the launch problems of 2042 i don't trust them anymore) .
Region locking the matchmaking is the most dumb thing they could do with this system. Outside of when they're in the event week thing, us in OCE region can't play Rush and Breakthrough anymore, even then we'd be lucky to get a full server once during that week, it's depressing. All we can play most of the time is Conquest and TDM.. Why not just let me auto connect to Asian servers like what most other FPS games do? Least on the other BF games I can play them in other regions, I sometimes play in a Singapore Operations server on BF1, baffling how 2042 is so ass backwards.
I totally feel you on this bro. Us OCE get the shaft when it comes to multiplayer FPS gaming
@@TeaManuel Yeah man, it's shit. It's a mix of population issues and players honestly just don't know variety. 2042 is just dead so I can see why no one would be playing Breakthrough anymore, but even BF5, on playstation we have 3 full OCE Conquest servers everyday, why not 2 CQ and 1 Breakthrough, or something different? Conquest for me is just so stale, I can only play it for a couple matches before I get bored aha. I just wish we had variety in our servers. At least on PC BF5 we have an OCE Breakthrough but can't play with my console mates.
still so incredibly frustrated with DICE’s decision to not include a server browser with their star wars battlefront games AND with a future update in SWBFII that forced players to search for a new game only after two matches, like 2042’s core matchmaking it is so difficult to play certain maps due to the constant server switchover and renders less popular game modes completely dead due to matchmaking taking hours (which didn’t need to happen)
Great video with great points. You speak for me and I suspect thousands of others who were infuriated with the dilution of the SB and its ultimate culling in 2042. I really hope DICE pay attention and bring back this "legacy feature" although I suspect that's a brutal expectation!
You should do more videos like this i loved it! Also love your Map review/rating/lore videos !
This reminds me of 2012/13 when my brother and I was finally allowed to play medal of honor allied assault breakthrough, I would go and join the same few servers and even though i was in my early teens and the rest were older guys I recognized others on a daily basis and eventually tallked to them in the chat or exchanged a hello.
Still play, and see various same people, some from back then but not many.
For battlefield i usually stick to a few same too, and on bf1 I joined [BUDz] I usually play alone but it's fun being part of it.
BF2042 I enjoy but it sucks when you get a round with a great squad that works well together only to them part ways once the match is done. I enjoy the game but some times its annoying having to join a new server.
This is a great video to raise awareness of the importance of server browsers in the Battlefield series. DICE may not return to the 'old school' yet better method for the playable state of their games but it's definitely worth trying to highlight the significance of this subject, those two last minutes were really impactful. Thank you for putting so much time and effort for making this video, Grav. ❤
Am I missing something? Have you ever clicked Portal--->Browse? That's the server browser right? Do people just not know how to find it?
@@damegataco Did you even watch the video?
@@shazb0lt yes... As far as I could tell he was talking about the importance of having a server browser vs just having matchmaking as far as I could tell... I'm just confused why he didn't even mention the server browser the game does have and acted like there's only matchmaking.
@@damegataco He did talk about the server browser in Portal right at 36:02 and referred to it as a possible last saving grace of the game in theory. He was not "acting" like that because the only way to normally play BF2042's main core experience like in previous BFs, which is All-Out Warfare, is through matchmaking, and AoW lacks a server browser.
basically the internet has tried its hardest to destroy user communities, and by internet I mean the powers that be. Forums, servers, anything that could foster tight nit unity between like minded people has been destroyed. It's a danger to our democracy.
This video hits right in the feels. I've never felt more alone while simultaneously being "connected" to so many people. It's a joke. We've gone down a dark timeline that's for sure. BF was my childhood, COD too. Rip to my buddies who haven't made it this far into this dystopian future.
In Battlefield 1, matchmaking works pretty well for conquest and for the weekly featured mode. Operations is hit or miss (you may get in a game, or you may get on an empty server)
Note: this is on PC, for Europe region
Can't believe the battlebit devs understood this better than EA.
Well, present situation considered, I can.
I am an old Battlefield fan and I'm telling you, there is no way back. They are destroying franchise on purpose. RIP BF !
Wow great vid. I had a similar intro but with BF Vietnam lol
Gamespy, 56K modem, and Roger Wilco. The way gaming was meant to be 😅
That's like tearing up an old wound that never quite heals, reading those words. Gamer communities might never be the same. Forums, clans, platoons. Now it's quick play with random people you'll likely never find again.
This is my story as well mate, such a big community back then. Never seen it since, which is so weird. Not in Battlefield or many other games. Instance based servers really remove this element. Discord does an okay job of simulating forums, but it doesn't do it as well as forums did.
That’s why I like True trophies and and Trueachivments because you can always find like mind BF COD Halo or gears players depending if you set up scheduled sessions for casual achivements boosting or competitive play or coop if you just want to play with people and make friendships you can do that they usally always have mics
Crazy that this video even needs to be made.
Only thing they really have to do with the server browser is make it a more efficient browser. They usually kinda suck and don’t show the right info ever.
They have so much work to do for the next BF (60% games with terrible server sync been the main one for me, closely followed by balancing the airpower)
Private servers were always a great thing to have. Going back to BF1942 there were some great communities. We could have clan friendlies or just all jump on randomly. Games were so much better.
We also had control kicking cheats and trolls. Now you have to server jump.
Been gaming with some of the same people I joined over 20 years ago.
(BF V had the best inf based mechanics)
I agree. Also, battlelog is the best way to join a server. It's the fastest.
Pretty shameful that 2042 will wither far faster as DICE was too embarrassed about it’s playerbase size to add one. It just feels like wasted effort on the game to me
Thanks for this!
Ive played all BF iterations up to BF1 since 1942. You sir are 100% correct. I played BF4 in a competitive league, I was introduced while being teamed up with a league team and I didn't even know. But they were impressed by my Tank skills and they needed a tank operator in 5 v 5s. The chat and comm's allowed them to contact me while in game and well that is how I got into competitive BF gaming. We also used to run a practice server for the team. How do teams even do that now?
BF1 I purchased, but its not BF, so I didn't play it much. You just nailed the reason this franchise is dying. (Has died)
Adding my 2 cents to your vid. The introduction of console gaming is destroying PC gaming. BF is at its roots a PC game and this added to its downfall.
As one of those new players (albeit one who defaulted to using the server browsers, as I’m still coming from a PC FPS background), is there a secret to using BF4’s server browser?
In BFV and BF1 it is extremely easy to find matches through it, but *every* server on BF4 seems to be spoofing their player counts, leading me to constantly join empty games.
That’s happened a handful of times in BF1 as well, but it’s not hard to avoid, whereas BF4 seems basically unusable with how frequently the match turns out to be fake, unless I’m missing something.
It's a bug since the UI update for BF4. Use game tracker web side to see real players for PC.
I'm pretty sure that in the future quality of life updates is going to be DICE improving the Server Browser that can look similar to bf3 and bf4. I'm looking forward to see some one map 24/7 matches like Metro 24/7 in bf3 and Locker 24/7 in bf4. Redacted and haven look really good as a 24/7 rotation. I think bf2042 is going to last a lot longer once DICE gives more love to the Server Browser.
I'm in a clan, [EWE], that I joined when I was pretty young, playing AA and BF2. I'm still in that clan line 20+ years later 😅
7:20 speechless
Bad Company 2 on PC was magnificent game. I miss it.
Dirty bomb and Enemy Territory are still playable thanks to the server browser. Tribes 3 is already unplayable without server browser.
Matchmaking can only work is the game has a huge number of players when it's released.
My absolute favorite part of 2042's matchmaking is it'll put me in an empty lobby on a map I despise (there are a lot of those in 2042), I'll leave to requeue, and then it'll continue to put me in the same dead lobby until I either alt+f4 or am forced to play another game mode. So much more convenient than say BF4 where I can just go to battlelog, click on a server I want to play on with the map and ruleset I like,, and be in the game in 30 seconds despite the game being over a decade old.
Great video, it's sad to see that 2042 will never get a proper server browser. The Portal browser might help but doesn't really count for much imo since those servers arent truly persistent nor do they backfill from people using quickmatch options.
I didn't even know 2042 had a recent players list.
In theory it does. It shows some players you might recognize. But effectively it's non-functional.
8:41 ❤ BF2 Battleracer
Really poppin off on those tank to air kills
Dice is addicted to failure
I would not be sad to see them close at this point. It has been years since I enjoyed one of their releases.
It's hard fact that good old DICE is dead, most veteran devs left after BF1 and you really feel it.
@@Swisshost a lot of vets are back. There are like 5 studios working on this game
It's so funny because I thought I stopped playing the game as I was getting out of high school and becoming an adult just because life took over. But I remember getting on battlefield 1 in battlefield v and there was no server browser on the PS4 and it just being annoying and I actually played battlefield 4 a couple years ago on the PC and it was amazing cuz it had the server browser and I was always playing on the same server. It was fun
I have a request: make a best maps of BF for one of the maps from hardline
I’ve been saying this on every forum since 2042 began. I’m also really tired of the argument that a server browser and persistent servers leads to nothing but team stacks.
This matchmaking and forced cross play has really pushed a lot of console veterans away. We are just remnants now of several platoons because of these awful decisions.
I think the other issue Battlefield suffered from admittedly is that its default servers didn't give you variety. You had all these game modes, but nobody would play anything but Conquest, or Rush, depending on which battlefield we're talking about, because the rest of the game modes would be empty, even if they were interested.
Sure, Battlefield had a bunch of terrible game modes, but it also had a bunch of fun ones, but nowadays you don't see anything but Conquest. If you wanted to play anything else but Conquest, you could pretty much go screw yourself.
This goes back to the variety issue. Also speaking on the shortage of maps, even going as far back as Battlefield 4, you couldn't get every single map in a server queue. I remember because I used to admin a server and I'd have to do reboots once or twice every day to change up the maps that were in the rotation, otherwise we'd be just playing only about 90% of the game's maps.
The other issue Battlefield suffered from was that at end of life a year or two after release, they should just give everyone the maps for free. Not necessarily the guns if you still want to charge for the DLC, but restricting the maps kills off all of the DLC maps for those who don't have them. Which in turn splits the player base and shrinks it even smaller. It also shrinks the amount of variety that even players who do pay for the DLC can play.
Which goes back to the other issue of Battlefield's game modes. They would frequently make DLC game modes, but it would only be available for DLC maps. So you'd get great game modes like close quarters or air superiority, but they would never get enough gameplay because they're restricted to a single DLC set. That's excluding the fact that there was no mixed game modes lobbies from the get-go, so these game modes basically never got played. Titanfall did this way better, even without a server browser, by making it so that you would just queue into mixed game modes Which kept Titanfall alive for longer, despite the fact that it doesn't have a server browser.
True i'm a fan of BF Series since BF bad company 2 but now with 2042 i can't find games because i'm in middle east with region locked all the games are empty unless i use another 3rd party apps to change the servers or block middle east ip to force the game to get me in Europe servers
Great video Grav! We can only hope that the tone-deaf leadership at EA will prioritize fidelity again....
Now, fast forward to 2024, where you go to BF2042 and all you see are people talking sh to you for playing that game
Like regular Reddit users go there with intent to crap on you for playing the game.
I build servers in BF2042 Portal currently and I love it
Portal and legacy factions of 1942, BF3 and Bad Comapny 2 are a saving grace for BF2042 to me
Part of why i am so god tier at Battlefield is due to in 3 and 4 my friends and I would play hardcore only clan servers. Harder rules, sweatier players. You get better much faster when you compete in the sweat leagues lol. Now its skill based, which kinda ruins it.
Thank you very much!
Great video and I agree on everything you said. I don't remember if you mentionedit but give us better in game admin tools :(
HE'S BACK
I hope some Devs will see your video. ❤
Thanks
BF3 [TNT] 24/7 Gulf of Oman is my Home visit if you want…
Bf4 killed it for me
Still get down on bf3, AND BF2MC on ps2 and ps2 emulator🔥🚀
The fact this even needs to be discussed lmfaoo. Gave up a long long time ago!
Guys... Battlefield is on steam sale again right now until August 19th.
BF4: 5.99€
BF1: 5.99€
BFV: 7.49€
Let's have some fun again ;)
Not unquie to BF. All major AAA big name PvP games and franchises from all major devs and publishers are pushing this anti-community narrative. They just want you to buy, play and don`t think or engage any further - just consume the product, be happy and wait for more product.
I’ve been saying for years now “how can they release 2042 with no browser??!!” They actively delete Reddit posts that ask this question. Makes no sense other than my theory they simply don’t want anyone seeing actual player numbers.
Battlefield needs a new IP. Dice just ain’t cutting it anymore. I haven’t enjoyed anything they have made since Bf4
Scorp!!!! Great video!
2042 is unplayable in Australia outside of like 4-11pm even with crossplay. BF1 & BF5 on the other hand i can just join any of the 10 full Singapore servers with 90 ping any time of the day. For someone who finishes work at 11pm the game is fully unplayable for me.
Oath, OCE is shit house for gaming tbh. For me personally the hours isn't the issue, it's the modes we are limited to play. Most of the time we can only play Conquest, across all BF games, though recently there has been a Breakthrough up and active on PC BF5 most late arvo/evenings, but other than that it's just Conquest. Even on 2042, we'd be lucky to get half a server of Breakthrough or Rush XL when it's features on the weekly mode thing. I just miss having variety in this region. Conquest gets so boring so quick.
Wished Star Wars Battlefront 2 and its predecessor had something like that
People clearly want a server browser. Let’s remove it!
As soon as I found and used the server browser I never used anything else.
Well said
Can't wait for them not to include server browser for the next BF
This is an excellent and important video, and I fully agree with its message. I will share it with the community.
I'm concerned that the gaming industry is now focusing on having shorter game life cycles, releasing new titles every year to maximize profits. Capitalism is killing communities, and with it, gaming as we know it :(
Hope to see a change in the industry, this kind of videos will help with that
no hate but your assessment of the industry is funny because it is the exact OPPOSITE lol
you cant release yearly sequels anymore like in the BF refractor days because games are too complex now, and MP games are chasing GAAS, resulting in the same game being played for years
they just dont want the community to have any control over the experience anymore
@@MKR3238 no worries and fair enough, Im not an "industry insider", it's just my view as a costumer and gamer. In my industry Im facing the same problems as, I assume, gaming companies do: investors and shareholders pressing down budgets and opex costs, only focusing on optimizing profits on the cost of the existing infrastructure. If it is just a question of control, which motives lay behind that? Control of what? Egoistic game devs who want players to play the game the way they intended? I don't know the answer but it would be way more sad if the core of the problem would be the devs themselves... I more think publishers like EA want this control to be able to shut down games when they want them to shut down so that players move to their next title and they can save the server (opex) costs of old titles. Maybe not every year, but at least when they want to. In the end, this would be then the point I tried to make earlier ;)
@@smokersally6469 oh its definitely not the devs but c-suite and people with MBAs trying to figure out how to extract the most out of your customers. lets say custom servers would offer you faster progression so you are less inclined to pay or grind for skins or weapons, thats a big no-no for them. i don't think this is the complete picture but i believe at least part of why Player hosted servers are gone the way of the dodo (with the exception of more niche/pc focused games)
I don't think these companies want you playing the old games as there might be a new game out or one under development
We had server browsers in the ps3 for bf3. Matchmaking is not what bf is made for.
Conspiracy theory, but they knew the matchmaking button would kill the game, and that's the intended purpose to get people to buy the next Battlefield game. The only difference was they were too stupid to realize this Battlefield game would just die with no successor.
A lost sentiment on these money hungry companies, like a cheap home appliance games now come with planned obsolence. sad
I don't get the big picture with this centralised matchmaking, allowing community host/rent servers just takes the weight of running a server off EA. Like sure for console matchmaking works quite well since the worst cheats on console are xim/cronus
What there doing something for us after all the talk about delta force
Step 1: Find Battlefield 4 server
Step 2: See a bunch of chopper w**res with 120 KD already
Step 3: Find another Battlefield 4 server
Step 4: Have FUN
BF2042:
Find BF2042 Server Browser
Play said server
OR
Make your own server and play yourself
Frankly unbelievable when i get to see your UI design just as im warming up to 2042 only to be reminded that modern DICE cant design anything and it takes someone like you to design an actually decent UI that caters to both casuals and hardcore fans
2042 has horrible maps, way too much open ground. No city maps like Sienne, Metro ect. I miss the BF3 maps and some BF4 maps
The game is now developed by a bunch of Ultra Left Leaning Producers that answer to a money hungry corporation.
I don't think politics has anything to do with gaming. Politics is about money ultimately. Which is why they, left right and center, are ruining gaming into another revenue stream instead of fun experience.
Its more complicated Im sure. But the "Go Woke Go Broke" has added to its downfall.
@@Billy_bSLAYER How is the left leaning or woke showing in this game exactly? Everyone surely agrees it has nowhere near enough content, the content is bad, design choices are bad, aiming is broken etc. But where's the socialism, blue haired they them?
@djnorth2020 considering the public statements they've made with things like BFV's representation of women and the crap they've been talking about with All-chat, I would believe that.
the hard truth of our time they already value quantity over quality - they do their best not to buy their games ( in my opinion this is dying sector ) .
Isn't the portal a server browser? ... I'm confused what you're expecting
Edit: Do you literally just not know how to find the server list in Battlefield 2042?
Edit 2: Dude have you ever gone to Portal-->browse... It's literally EXACTLY what you're saying isn't in the game.
Portal does not have official servers in it, and Portal has major issues when it comes to actual community servers.
Like next to no admin controls and tools.
@@TorbisXD holy fuck I have tried to type out this response like 5x times and keep accidentally closing it after getting like paragraphs in so here's the short version. It makes sense that they need to improve the admin controls as that's a huge oversight, but as far as official servers that's not really as much of a necessity especially if they fixed the previous issue due to there being more accessibility to hardware to maintain a server and fast internet connection than there used to be. I feel the main reason there's not as much of a player base is a much more complex problem that stems from the fact that there's not as much of an interest in playing games online as there used to be.
When I say used to be I am referring to back in the day of the infancy of xbox live where most everyone received a free headset with their console and would actually use it. Not only that, but they would do more than just be toxic assholes as being able to chat with new people and also being capable of acting as a team in real-time was something that was not as easy to accomplish as it was before then. These days it's either the novelty has worn off for some people while others just never had the experience of playing online and only having text chat as best to try to work as a team as having a mic wasn't as common or in game chat wasn't really supported while chatting via an external program wasn't as simple as starting a discord call. The last issue is that people don't really need to interact with other folks in the game to interact with others thanks to the capability to stream their game... Who wants to risk chatting with assholes and trolls who will literally just harass people for the lulz (and not playfully like back in the day) when they can just interact with an established streamer audience they've built up over time.
So yeah... While the complaints about the server hosting are valid I don't think that's necessarily the main reason why the game wasn't as popular as people expected. Anyways before I find to accidentally delete all this imma end it here.
@@damegataco 💀
46 minute video lol. I haven't watched the video and tbqh I don't plan to but I'm sure that every conceivable argument in favor of the server browser can be explored in detail in under ten minutes. Brevity is the soul of wit, pal.
me but call of robloxia
Modern gaming failed in principles and community values
BF1 was the last great bf
since BF2042 there is an SBMM, and for the SBMM to work you don't need server browsers, that's why they removed
SBMM in BF2042 lol good one, any sources though?
@@LordAngelus that's what I think, there are no server browsers, the players opposite there are always several players who know how to play well compared to the old BF where we only came up against noobs, they added AI bots
The first Battlefield I purchased was 1942 and everyone up to BF1. More than likely BF1 will be the last I purchase because of Dice's insistence on woke BS. I want no part of BF5, with it's fairytale "historical" accuracy and 2042 with it "boss babe" nonsense. I want to get lost in the game NOT be constantly bombarded with "the message" by virtue signalling losers. What we spend our money on is the ONLY power we as consumers have and I choose to exercise that power as, we have seen, do many others. The only BF I play multiplayer on is still BF2 and sometimes BF4, especially because of their redone BF2 maps such as Dragon Valley.
The one comment about the community server capability, or lack thereof in the most recent games, I will say is that NONE of these recent games will still be being played almost 20 years later because without community server capability on independent providers the game will only last until EA/Dice keeps their servers running. After that you have another useless listing in your Steam or Origin library...
None of the problems with BFV and 2042 have anything to do with "the message". There's no woke blue haired they thems yelling their pronouns anywhere in either game. And there's no discrimination of any minority or majority either. It's a non-issue.
But you're 100% on that these modern games will not be played it viewed in positive nostalgia like previous titles.
To take away the server browser is just so stupid on so many levels
Let players themself decide what map/mode THEY want to play ffs
Without a server browser all social aspects are also sucked out of the game
Reason 2464562 why i never touched 2042
I love hoping on BF4 and recognising alot of the player names 😊 I'm aDrunkCanadian. It's been awhile.. I need to hop back on
I think I saw that name before mines RyFox122, I don't play much though, I'm mainly on bf1 or 2042 lately. I'm also Canadian 😄
Seen jkgapro, Peacemaker, the MR clan, Augpuppy, yoFAC3_reported, DEADLY_UP_CLOSE, or that annoying UCAV clan?
Comment for the algorithm so gravity can stay strong 😊