Bro light island is literally the best island imo and faerie, Light island wouldn’t be as good if they didn’t have the cloud monster. (Maybe im just biased because it’s holiday..)
To be honest I find the choice of monsters on the Psychic Island to be the most genious one if you count the Fire Frontier and the voting for the 4th element that was carried out at that time Edamimi represents Team Earth Bisonorus represents Team Air Bowhead kinda represents Team Cold because at the time most people voted for Team Cold only for Bowgart (also because Bowhead has the exact same elements as Deedge excluding fire)
Just to give a little clarification the specific fire elementals that went to the magical islands are based off of the magical islands originally being planned to be fire Islands, like with psychics fire frontier. Edamami was planned to be the quad of fire frontier, along with yelmut being for light island, flum ox being for bone island, and krillby being for faerie island.
True, but after the fire frontier vote, Incisaur was then planned for fire frontier, but because the island ended up having 0 percussionists (besides Incisaur) they decided to replace the cold element with the psychic element. If there was no vote, then it would’ve been the earth element and Edamimi would’ve been on fire frontier instead.
I’m pretty sure I know the reason why certain monsters are on the islands they are, but this is merely an assumption: Initially, before Magical islands were magical, they were meant to be fire islands. Flum Ox would have been the quad of what Bone is now, Light would have had Yelmut, Krillby would have been in Faerie, and seemingly Edamimi would have been on Psychic.
@@AndrexTadex3000 i doubt it actually. plus, it might be disrespectful to the new VA’s work by replacing their voice with the original VA just because they came back for a bit..
I don’t like the sound font for Candelavra’s voice in the main game, it sounds more like a strange synth noise instead of a heavenly vocal. If she used her same sound font from Dawn of Fire, she would sound much better on Haven.
Agreed, 100%. I'd also like to bring up Candelavra's idle animation. Am I the only one who thinks it's really stiff and janky compared to the smooth and calm movements of its Dawn of Fire version?
@@theoriginalalex Darn, I think you're right. Maybe if people talk about it enough, we can call attention to it, but for the most part I think we are stuck with it; BBB really doesn't like to change things if they feel as if they don't have to.
Honestly, Light Island's Seasonal event should have been what the Island looked like from the start. If the Island is about Light and the monsters are multi-colored, the rainbow crystals and fireworks just fit it all better than the bland *black and yellow* . The only Seasonal skin worth buying outside of getting the boosts.
You should make a yearly video of updating your msm rankings. Because in like every week or two songs change a little or a lot. And plane out new songs come out.
The reason yelmut is on Light Island is because the magicals were originally supposed to be fire islands and the quads wouldce been: Yelmut - Light Edamimi - Psychic Krillby - Faerie Flum Ox - Bone So they wanted to do a homage to it and the other monsters were just picked because woopie!
Idk about 5 elements but i think it’s because (like fire frontier) I think it was the possible voting for their islands if they didn’t use magic elements
one of the quads on each of the magical islands has the elements that the island was originally meant to have when it was a fire island, when they switched the islands to the magical islands the fire quads were replaced, for example yellmut has fire, plant, cold and air (air replaced by light) but they are back now! (which is also the reason yellmut and flum ox are on oppisite islands)
I assume that for next years DOF Spooktacle, we'll get Punkelton and the other seasonals on an Outer Island. It would be super weird if it just never grew up and went to an outer island ever. It would be a good way to extend the life of the game too.
Next year could maybe be a "growing up" year, where all of the young Core Seasonals (which would presumably be out by that point) would grow up onto another island. Then, the next year could possibly have that island that was "coming soon" release, but this is just theorising at this point.
Light island theme is like a mash between a lullaby and a parade. First half of the song is more lullaby but as the song progress you hear horns, drums,loud noises and fire works what you usually hear on parades and as the beat drops its like a lullaby again but with horns of a parade in it. This update was what light island needed in my opinion. Lack of drums/percussion here have tiawa and drummidary, repetitive? here lets make tiawa play near the beginning and make yelmut and drummidary play together first then later add tiawa back in the end of the climax, "Light island is boring and quiet" well here have Yelmut and Drummidary. Its like a little of everything that fans want for light island in these three Monster, Im so happy to see everyone loving Light island it really deserves it😁🎉
I'm really excited for Mimic to come to Fire Oasis (the only Fire Island without a Quint), probably during Perplexplore in May. It's also a great opportunity for Mimic to copy more than one Monster in the same song, giving it more of an identity unto itself than "Fwog 2". That's what's reasonably likely to happen. My INSANE theory is this: The Magical Islands each got 2 Fire Quads and 1 Fire Quint added, but Fire Haven and Fire Oasis will only have a Quint when all is said and done. Candelavra is great, but that lone addition was completely overshadowed by the 3 new Monsters on the Magical Islands. So, if the Natural Quint is being added in Perplexplore, I think it's a fantastic opportunity to mirror the Fire Expansion with a Natural Expansion! Entbrat, Riff, Shellbeat, and Quarrister will journey to Fire Haven and Fire Oasis, balancing them out against the Magical Islands. Deedge is left out of the party because the pattern established so far is 2 extra Quads to an Island, and Deedge has already gone on a journey to Shugabush Island. I know this is a bit crazy, but the Fire Expansion was unprecedented in both scope and execution, and with Perplexplore being 6 months apart from Feast-Ember, taking place on the only Fire Island that wasn't expanded, and bringing the Natural Quint to the game, I think it makes sense to do it again!
Only issue: How would you get the Natural Quads and Mimic on Fire Haven/Oasis? Relics represent Fire, and it's not like you can only make them diamonds-exclusive.
Candelevera doesn’t even sound like a vocalist anymore. It’s not bad, but it could have been better. I didn’t have high expectations anyways. Light island moved from my C tier to A tier. I’m in love with Tiawa’s subtle and calming support. It makes the song feel a lot more personal and nostalgic to me. Yelmut also completely blew me away. It gave the song so much power I didn’t know it needed! Psychic island was greatly improved by Bowhead. It makes Gloptic’s verse worth listening to imo, but that Rooba verse… it’s so bad. Now it’s like Bowhead’s competing with Rooba. Bowhead’s build up is wasted, the melody sucks, it’s repetitive, it’s bland, Rooba doesn’t even sound PLEASANT, and Rootitoot is at his worst here! Bowhead could save this island, the song just needs a little revamp. Faerie island just moved to S. No doubt about it. The Froot fly, Tuskski, and Krillby combo is magical. Platty’s good and all, but damn i kind of wish it just let the 3 of them play. Krillby’s second verse is fantastic as well. Bone’s honestly worse for me. Gnarls is just too off putting and it kind of takes charge of its verse instead of supporting it yknow? Let pekidna thrump and toe-jammer do their jobs! I actually really enjoyed hearing Flum ox though. He’s so catchy and I love his deep voice.
those are some agreeable opinions! i think the only disagreement we have is about Psychic, i like the way Bowhead and Rooba play together. as for Rootitoot.. yeah they’re kinda forgettable. i don’t even notice them half the time.
9:48 Look Gertrude!!! There I am!!! Albeit I only appear for nine seconds, it feels great to be credited alongside MPG. 💛 Also THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING GNARLS’ OFF BEAT TRACK!!! I thought I was going bananas because everyone on Twitter was talking about how good it was. I’d take your version of Gnarls over the OG!! I made a community post about my thoughts on the new monsters if you wanna read that. Also Meebkin and Auglur are iconic!
haha, i’m glad your work got to be featured in my video for a sec! i really appreciate the way you structure your audio uploads! i’ll check out your community post as well, i’m pretty curious to know what your full thoughts are on the update :)
@@theoriginalalexmy “work”? Puh-lease, it’s technically not mine to begin with, but with that being said thanks for the compliment and for giving me the attention I so desperately crave- uhh I mean- uhh, thanks for giving me some recognition!
I have a theory about Punkleton not being on any Outer Islands. You know how the Seasonals went to their islands a year after their introduction, and then they got their Epics a year after that? I feel like it'll be something similar to that. First time around, they'll be added to the Continent. Next year, they'll go to an Outer Island. And a year after that, they get their Prismatics. It makes sense to me at least.
@@marchu- I mean, we've seen seasonals on multiple islands before. Hoola on Earth and Air, Viveine on Amber and Shugabush, Monculus on Ethereal and Wublin. Plus, all the core seasonals are on Gold Island too.
@@BifOfficialRealUnderstand but they would have to explain how the core seasonals left the outer islands and on gold island they are still on plant island. They exist on gold because it's the higher plane.
The Continent and Ethereal Workshop are getting updates! In the Festival of Yay Trailer we see three new monsters! On the Continent we see 2 Monsters never before seen on there, Tuskski and Yool! They both go in the verse with Glowl, Yelmut, Wynq, and Maw! And then, we go to Ethereal Workshop, where at the very end of the trailer, we see lightning strike, which in turn, shows a Shadow for a brand new workshop monster! We also get Rare Scargo, Rare Monculus, and Epic Bellowfish! Edit: Even more updates! We got the Baby Versions of Blabbit and Schmoochle, making the Continent sound… admittedly worse, but then we also got Bowhead, and it is honestly really cool, it’s also on Space Island too! We also got Flasque, Nitebear, Whaill, Piplash, Vhenshun, X’rt, Pentumbra, Teeter-Tauter, and Rhysmuth on Ethereal Workshop! We’re so close to the finale of Ethereal Workshop, meaning we might be seeing Rares, which is something I honestly don’t know how they’ll pull off! Another thing is that unused verse with Whaill is now in the song! It has every single Ethereal Workshop Monster inside of it, and it’s honestly my favorite verse in, not just Ethereal Workshop, but probably the entire game! And the big one, Magical Nexus, which was another island teased by Josh Harmon, as we got a teaser for not just Clackula, but also Bonkers, meaning this is an island for all Magical Monsters… except for the Sanctum Monsters… for some reason, but I’m sure we’ll get them eventually! …aaand we got Mimic in the First Game! Added to Fire Oasis in the Perplexplore 2024 Update, Mimic mimics Spurrit and Gobbleygourd, which is fitting, cuz both of them are silly just like Mimic! I love Mimic’s inclusion! Oh yeah, Wubbox also got on it’s final island, which just so happens to be the exact same island Mimic got on, and yeah, IT’S RUN ENDED WITH A BANG!!
i had no idea who you were before this video but honestly the style of the video, the way the script is delivered AND the great justifications already make me wanna be a long time fan
I don't want to be annoying but I feel like krillby wasn't talked enough mainly because how krillby dueted with hippity-hop and also how krillby does his little cute dance as hippityhop sings, its golden.
Honestly, I can’t listen to the full magical songs right now with the update, but from what I seen like I want pills improved a lot, plus they added my favourite fire monster( Yelmit ) Most of the magical islands hasn’t changed, but very London improve a little bit.
I believe Flum Ox is on Bone since it was originally a Fire Island with its Elements. For example, that's why Whaddle's Amber Island is so similar to Banjaw. Anyways, I LOVE Flum Ox on Bone lol... The best addition to Bone imo. Despite that, I think it should have been on Psychic because of it meditating and everything. Speaking of Psychic... Honestly, I've never liked Psychic Island. It's repetitive, and incredibly boring. The Rootitoot verse actually sounds really bad to me, I can't believe it just used to repeat the same thing before the Dipsters. That verse is ASS. Now, Bowhead made the Toe Jammer verses a lot better... but I think it made Rootitoot's verse WORSE. There's no saving that verse, and there's no saving Psychic Island. I'm really glad you liked Light Island's additions, I love them, it was always a contender for my favorite Magical Island but Faerie usually took the spotlight for me. I think I can safely say Light is my favorite now, mostly due to Yelmut... Whizbang leading in to it's yelling just WORKS. It's amazing. Speaking of amazing, this video! Great content as always.
They left us hanging with Ethereal Workshop 😭 at least we've got major updates with the fire monsters. I'm so glad this update to the tier list is out!
i can’t believe my favorite fire elemental (edamimi) went to my favorite magical island also BOWHEAD GETTING 3 TRACKS AND PLAYING THROUGHOUT A WHOLE SONG AND CANDELAVRA BEING HEARABLE WERE SUCH BUG SUPRISES
Completely off topic, but I love the addition of Angry Birds music in the background!! Also I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT ETHEREAL WORKSHOP WHEN IT CAME OUT!! I agree with the shortness of it, I can’t wait for more monsters to come out!! I was also so happy about the fire expansion update!! It was a huge shock to me, but my favorite island update out of the ones that got updated in fire expansion is definitely Psychic!! 🐝🐝
honestly, the anniversary year update made it sound a little worse. it’s not bad, but i wish they had extended the last verse instead of the middle one 😅
I have a theory that because fire oasis was the only island not updated with the fire expansion that instead it’ll get an extra monster come perplexlore. And of the 6 islands, only 5 quads have been used… so mimic for oasis make that song even more playful why not
Gnarls sounds too positive for bone island and even garls itself. I think bone was the best magical at the start, but as time went on its calm and solemn essence was lost by the additions, while the opposite happened to the other magical islands.
I can sorta agree with the bone island part, but gnarls isn't confined to being a somber vocalist, it's a choir that can sing in basically any style if it so chooses. That's like saying monsters like mammot and bowgart can only play in one style, yet they both play in lots of other ways.
10:46 i feel like the only reason they added flum ox into bone island is that befire magicals were planned, flum ox was gonna be the quad for bone island until they scrapped it. Until now. (I think one of its verses in amber island is the verse that was supposed to play on bone island too).
since the magical islands were originally fire islands, the original quads for these islands were: light - yelmut psychic - edamimi faerie - krillby bone - flum ox this is the reason for big blue bubble putting yelmut on light and flum ox on bone
I honestly believe Yelmut fits Light Island more than Flum Ox. Everyone points to Light Island being the calm song, but it has the most intense and loudest verse among the magical islands. In contrast, Bone Island is fairly chill all around, no spot that would fit Yelmut IMO.
Here's my opinion on this insane update. Read if you dare! (sorry for any broken english or spelling errors, english isn't easy lol) Fire Haven was and still is an "eh" island to me. It just might be my least favorite from the original game (yes, I like Seasonal Shanty more). Candelavera didn't do much, she sounds out of character, atleast Party kind-of hit the mark Honestly, I would've prefered the Werdos over her. I'm a rare Werdos enjoyer, so I was pretty sad they didn't show up. Atleast the seasonal skin looks good. Light has changed quite a bit. I liked Light a lot, probably my 3rd favorite magical island before the update. But now I think it's my 2nd up there with Faerie. I love how Drummidary sounds, Yelmut is surprisingly good, and Tiawa's alright. Psychic is still my least favorite, but it easily jumped up from a C teir to a high B teir. Bowhead had a wild comeback from Amber, I guess the Monster Handelers realized how much they wasted his potential. The other ones are fine. I already loved Faerie Island, since it was my favorite magical island and all. But now it's even MORE amazing! It improved the most in my opinion (not like it needed to). I agree that Pong Ping is actually pretty good on Faerie, but he definitely isn't one of my favorite monsters yet. Krillby sounds fantastic, same with Tusksi. Bone seems to have improved the least. I really like how Flum Ox and Incisaur sound. Though I think Gnarls is kinda weird; like you said, offbeat. Still a great island! It's ABSURD how much relics this update will cost! I saved them up for the Werdos of course, but I can't even afford Candelavera. I could barely get the Rare variations with Starpower, but I don't even have enough for all of them! Hopefully this update isn't really Feast-Ember exclusive. Maybe it will come around for Gobbleygourds out of season promotion. Hopefully I'll have enough currency by then. Rare Spurrit, Candelavera and Bona-Petite are cool too I guess
To be honest, whenever I heard Yelmut on Light, it sounded just like I expected it to. Oh yea, do you finally remember... Uhhh, was it Pluckbill? No... Perry the Platypus? I don't know, the sitar one.
fire expansion looked like a joke to me at first but I love it haven didn't change much for me, shame they cut back how much buzzinga plays light (somehow) became even more beautiful and majestic psychics intro is so badass now, love it faerie became such a beautiful and amazing song, definitely moved up for me (also krillby hitting a schmoove) and bone is still great imo, not that impressive of a change but a welcome one. I love flum ox's inclusion, he and kayna work great together
10:39 gotta disagree with you there. Flum ox is the best new fire on the island imo. Gnarls is a bit off beat and Incisaur is….incisaur. I’ve grown to like flum ox more after this update, and this is my favorite interpretation of it. It’s groovy and I honestly think it fits well with the song.
hey, i remember you! i’m just not a fan of them on Bone. i think they did the best they could, but i prefer Flum Ox on any other island. glad you could appreciate them though!
due to these, my favorite island list expanded from mythical island as of 4.0 gold island as of 4.0 to fire haven as of expansion faerie island as of expansion light island as of expansion mythical island as of 4.0 gold island as of 4.0
I’m honestly upset that the fire expansion doesn’t have a secret breeding structure. It’s just buying it for relics but I am not wasting my money on relics. I’m really disappointed about that. I’m still happy that they added the monsters, to different islands
Its probably because BBB wanted to make relics and starpower more useful and probably give people who have tribes and amber Island a pat on the back because there sooOO hard to complete 😭
It's also definitely supposed to be a late game objective. Afterall, they emphasized the significance of having a good Amber Island relic generator going in the update. Amber is supposed to be the *last* Island to complete.
I know tou probably won't see this comment, but I have to ask. Will you be doing another update now that Etherial Workshop is out, or possibly once the new island is released?
Light and Psychic island were transformed with this update. Personally, I am not a big fan of Faerie, and Bone felt the same, but if Flum Ox played more, it would have been way better. Fire Haven, oh man. Fire Haven with Candelavra sounds good, but at the same time, it feels over worked. Ever since Buzzinga on Fire Haven, it felt over crowded. Overall, most islands benefitted from this update.
You have to be one of the best all-round youtubers (for me at least) It doesn't matter what you talk about, its always entertaining. I don't even play MSM anymore, good job.
To be honest for me fire expasion was amazing I feel I'm upset I can't get all the fire monster but I got yelmut and I'm glad I did since I didn't really like light island that much I mean it was okay but thats it just okay but when the fire monster came it changed my thoughts on it I actually enjoy light island and would actually listien to it more than once the fires on light really help and for the other islands well Psychic Island is still kinda the same but bowhead just carries though I wish that bisonorus was better he was did dirty and I like bisonorus so maybe if he played more and if his sound was different I feel like he barely echos and edamimi is fine and Faerie Island I enjoy it a lot still the fires were great additons they were perfect and bone everything is good their too I like flum ox and gnarls I feel like something more cool could have been done with Incisaur but thats alright =) [why did I write so much]
We got gold island for naturals amber for fire nexus for magicals would really love to see a final ethereal with both the ethereal island monsters monculus and the workshop monsters whenever workshop gets completed in wave 6 and one last thing would love to see some sanctum monsters on nexus
my DOF seasonal prediction goes as following 1st event: Introduced to Cintonent 6 months later (Out Of Season): added to outer island 2nd event: Prismatics that way we have content for DOF spread out next year and have relatively consistent updates rather than just adding them during their holidays
I’m honestly shocked fire haven wasn’t changed because candelavera added so much to song and sound so much clearer and Angelic but it’s probably not ur thing if I were u I would’ve put that baby on s+++++++
Personally I don’t know why people dislike the fact that Gnarls is slightly “offbeat”, it provides some polyrhythmic nuance to the song that it didn’t have before, or most other msm songs for that matter. Gnarls itself sounds phenomenal but that little bit of extra depth from the slight de-sync brings it up a tiny bit.
i have been informed of the reason why specific Fire monsters are on specific Magical islands, thank you all for letting me know :)
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Bro i almost cried when i heard yelmut for the first time, i never cry when i hear a song unless its “once i was 7 years old”.
@@theleadgazelblud that is not cry worthy
I gotta say, the Fire Expansion gave Light Island the glowup it needed and deserved. Drummidary and Yelmut sound HEAVENLY
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Get it, GLOW up
@@Space-mas_Richo silence.
What about tiawa it sounds so good
@@thiagoleonardo2484 Drummy and Yelmut have more of an impact, imo
@@spartagames5808 true, but tiawa adds a great sound and distinguishes the parts from sounding the same
With the mimic “watch out” I think it means that a fully grown mimic can canonically shapeshift into other monsters, as it says in adult mimic’s bio
that’s the only other reason, true
Imagine a very tall fully grown mimic on MSM that shapeshifts into the smallest monsters imaginable.
Pov: mimic on fire oasis; turns into a toe jammer
Yeah trailer confirms it
The bio does confirm this.
yelmut on light island scared me so bad, but it ended up sounding so good, i love what it and drummidary did to the song
same here!
Bro light island is literally the best island imo and faerie,
Light island wouldn’t be as good if they didn’t have the cloud monster. (Maybe im just biased because it’s holiday..)
@@theoriginalalex EAEAEAEAEAEAEAAAAAAAAAEAEAAEEAEAEAEAE-
To be honest I find the choice of monsters on the Psychic Island to be the most genious one if you count the Fire Frontier and the voting for the 4th element that was carried out at that time
Edamimi represents Team Earth
Bisonorus represents Team Air
Bowhead kinda represents Team Cold because at the time most people voted for Team Cold only for Bowgart (also because Bowhead has the exact same elements as Deedge excluding fire)
oh damn, i didn’t even consider that
Ironically team cold was the most popular yet Incisaur is the only one of the three not on the island
Just to give a little clarification the specific fire elementals that went to the magical islands are based off of the magical islands originally being planned to be fire Islands, like with psychics fire frontier. Edamami was planned to be the quad of fire frontier, along with yelmut being for light island, flum ox being for bone island, and krillby being for faerie island.
appreciate it, thank you for the information!
@@theoriginalalex no problem
Just realized those are the monsters having a feast with kayna
True, but after the fire frontier vote, Incisaur was then planned for fire frontier, but because the island ended up having 0 percussionists (besides Incisaur) they decided to replace the cold element with the psychic element. If there was no vote, then it would’ve been the earth element and Edamimi would’ve been on fire frontier instead.
@@Coolyoshi7Incisaur was never planned because the Fire Frontier vote was entirely fake, to hype up the upcoming Psychic Element.
I’m pretty sure I know the reason why certain monsters are on the islands they are, but this is merely an assumption: Initially, before Magical islands were magical, they were meant to be fire islands. Flum Ox would have been the quad of what Bone is now, Light would have had Yelmut, Krillby would have been in Faerie, and seemingly Edamimi would have been on Psychic.
And for the quads it’s because it fits with their rares
ahh, that’s smart. thanks for letting me know!
@@theoriginalalexThis is why Yelmut works good, Yelmut was meant to be Light Island’s quad
@@azimmeme9994you mean light island?
@@gb-929 Yes
The reason punkleton sounds normal on the continent and not like seasonal shanty is because bbb invited the original voice actor back to do it
that’s true, bless Dave Kerr
@@theoriginalalexi hope they will change the sound of punkelton in seasonal shanty, since dave kerr is back :)
@@AndrexTadex3000 i doubt it actually. plus, it might be disrespectful to the new VA’s work by replacing their voice with the original VA just because they came back for a bit..
@@AndrexTadex3000 And especially Hoola’s sound
She sounds beyond awful on shanty please Maggie Park
I don’t like the sound font for Candelavra’s voice in the main game, it sounds more like a strange synth noise instead of a heavenly vocal. If she used her same sound font from Dawn of Fire, she would sound much better on Haven.
completely agree. MSM seems to have that problem a lot when it comes to Fire monsters released in the main game after Fire Oasis.
Agreed, 100%. I'd also like to bring up Candelavra's idle animation. Am I the only one who thinks it's really stiff and janky compared to the smooth and calm movements of its Dawn of Fire version?
@@Soup-Boot oh yeah. i was really hoping they’d fix it when she got added to Haven, but i think it’s here to stay
@@theoriginalalex Darn, I think you're right. Maybe if people talk about it enough, we can call attention to it, but for the most part I think we are stuck with it; BBB really doesn't like to change things if they feel as if they don't have to.
YAYYY PERCIVAL_S
4:13 I knew I wasn't the only only who thought Anxiety looked like Rare Wubbox
Wait, it starts to look like it 💀😭
Honestly, Light Island's Seasonal event should have been what the Island looked like from the start.
If the Island is about Light and the monsters are multi-colored, the rainbow crystals and fireworks just fit it all better than the bland *black and yellow* .
The only Seasonal skin worth buying outside of getting the boosts.
Idk man, Crescendo Moon and Cloverspell skins be lookin fire
Psychic island has DEFENITLY improved. Even though Edamimi dosent add much, the other ones go SO HARD
i wish i acknowledged Edimimi and Bisonaurus more, because i agree in that they both go hard
not definitely, it was already good
the background changing from night to day in the intro / outtro is such a cute detail
i think you’re one of the few people to comment about that, thank you!
ofcc omg i love ur videos@@theoriginalalex
You should make a yearly video of updating your msm rankings. Because in like every week or two songs change a little or a lot. And plane out new songs come out.
that’s not a bad idea, i wonder where we’ll be in a year
@@theoriginalalexIt’s not every week, songs only change once every 2 months or something like that. Updates this big are very rare
@@azimmeme9994 definitely, but i’m glad we got this update at all! what a welcome surprise
@@theoriginalalex Agreed! :)
The reason yelmut is on Light Island is because the magicals were originally supposed to be fire islands and the quads wouldce been:
Yelmut - Light
Edamimi - Psychic
Krillby - Faerie
Flum Ox - Bone
So they wanted to do a homage to it and the other monsters were just picked because woopie!
So what about the other additions?
@@CameronsMusic Just ones that fit or like for Tuskiski he came out same time as Ffydill.
Idk about 5 elements but i think it’s because (like fire frontier) I think it was the possible voting for their islands if they didn’t use magic elements
@@ShrekStufThey fit with elements.
Tuskski has earth and cold just like faerie island
one of the quads on each of the magical islands has the elements that the island was originally meant to have when it was a fire island, when they switched the islands to the magical islands the fire quads were replaced, for example yellmut has fire, plant, cold and air (air replaced by light) but they are back now! (which is also the reason yellmut and flum ox are on oppisite islands)
ohh, that makes a lot of sense
I assume that for next years DOF Spooktacle, we'll get Punkelton and the other seasonals on an Outer Island. It would be super weird if it just never grew up and went to an outer island ever. It would be a good way to extend the life of the game too.
Next year could maybe be a "growing up" year, where all of the young Core Seasonals (which would presumably be out by that point) would grow up onto another island. Then, the next year could possibly have that island that was "coming soon" release, but this is just theorising at this point.
Light island theme is like a mash between a lullaby and a parade. First half of the song is more lullaby but as the song progress you hear horns, drums,loud noises and fire works what you usually hear on parades and as the beat drops its like a lullaby again but with horns of a parade in it.
This update was what light island needed in my opinion. Lack of drums/percussion here have tiawa and drummidary, repetitive? here lets make tiawa play near the beginning and make yelmut and drummidary play together first then later add tiawa back in the end of the climax, "Light island is boring and quiet" well here have Yelmut and Drummidary.
Its like a little of everything that fans want for light island in these three Monster, Im so happy to see everyone loving Light island it really deserves it😁🎉
Idk why but I really like your reactions. Every time you appreciate a monster I personally like I smile a bit
i’m happy that my reactions are entertaining!
I'm really excited for Mimic to come to Fire Oasis (the only Fire Island without a Quint), probably during Perplexplore in May. It's also a great opportunity for Mimic to copy more than one Monster in the same song, giving it more of an identity unto itself than "Fwog 2".
That's what's reasonably likely to happen. My INSANE theory is this:
The Magical Islands each got 2 Fire Quads and 1 Fire Quint added, but Fire Haven and Fire Oasis will only have a Quint when all is said and done. Candelavra is great, but that lone addition was completely overshadowed by the 3 new Monsters on the Magical Islands.
So, if the Natural Quint is being added in Perplexplore, I think it's a fantastic opportunity to mirror the Fire Expansion with a Natural Expansion! Entbrat, Riff, Shellbeat, and Quarrister will journey to Fire Haven and Fire Oasis, balancing them out against the Magical Islands.
Deedge is left out of the party because the pattern established so far is 2 extra Quads to an Island, and Deedge has already gone on a journey to Shugabush Island.
I know this is a bit crazy, but the Fire Expansion was unprecedented in both scope and execution, and with Perplexplore being 6 months apart from Feast-Ember, taking place on the only Fire Island that wasn't expanded, and bringing the Natural Quint to the game, I think it makes sense to do it again!
Yes.
Only issue: How would you get the Natural Quads and Mimic on Fire Haven/Oasis? Relics represent Fire, and it's not like you can only make them diamonds-exclusive.
Candelevera doesn’t even sound like a vocalist anymore. It’s not bad, but it could have been better. I didn’t have high expectations anyways.
Light island moved from my C tier to A tier. I’m in love with Tiawa’s subtle and calming support. It makes the song feel a lot more personal and nostalgic to me. Yelmut also completely blew me away. It gave the song so much power I didn’t know it needed!
Psychic island was greatly improved by Bowhead. It makes Gloptic’s verse worth listening to imo, but that Rooba verse… it’s so bad. Now it’s like Bowhead’s competing with Rooba. Bowhead’s build up is wasted, the melody sucks, it’s repetitive, it’s bland, Rooba doesn’t even sound PLEASANT, and Rootitoot is at his worst here! Bowhead could save this island, the song just needs a little revamp.
Faerie island just moved to S. No doubt about it. The Froot fly, Tuskski, and Krillby combo is magical. Platty’s good and all, but damn i kind of wish it just let the 3 of them play. Krillby’s second verse is fantastic as well.
Bone’s honestly worse for me. Gnarls is just too off putting and it kind of takes charge of its verse instead of supporting it yknow? Let pekidna thrump and toe-jammer do their jobs! I actually really enjoyed hearing Flum ox though. He’s so catchy and I love his deep voice.
those are some agreeable opinions! i think the only disagreement we have is about Psychic, i like the way Bowhead and Rooba play together. as for Rootitoot.. yeah they’re kinda forgettable. i don’t even notice them half the time.
9:48 Look Gertrude!!! There I am!!! Albeit I only appear for nine seconds, it feels great to be credited alongside MPG. 💛
Also THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING GNARLS’ OFF BEAT TRACK!!! I thought I was going bananas because everyone on Twitter was talking about how good it was. I’d take your version of Gnarls over the OG!! I made a community post about my thoughts on the new monsters if you wanna read that. Also Meebkin and Auglur are iconic!
haha, i’m glad your work got to be featured in my video for a sec! i really appreciate the way you structure your audio uploads!
i’ll check out your community post as well, i’m pretty curious to know what your full thoughts are on the update :)
@@theoriginalalexmy “work”? Puh-lease, it’s technically not mine to begin with, but with that being said thanks for the compliment and for giving me the attention I so desperately crave- uhh I mean- uhh, thanks for giving me some recognition!
I have a theory about Punkleton not being on any Outer Islands.
You know how the Seasonals went to their islands a year after their introduction, and then they got their Epics a year after that? I feel like it'll be something similar to that. First time around, they'll be added to the Continent. Next year, they'll go to an Outer Island. And a year after that, they get their Prismatics. It makes sense to me at least.
That actually what I was just talking about! The idea is pretty sound, considering that DOF doesn't get updates often!
@@Soup-Bootthe idea is "pretty sound"
I'll see myself out ha ha
But lore wise doesn't punkleton stay on plant island.
@@marchu- I mean, we've seen seasonals on multiple islands before. Hoola on Earth and Air, Viveine on Amber and Shugabush, Monculus on Ethereal and Wublin. Plus, all the core seasonals are on Gold Island too.
@@BifOfficialRealUnderstand but they would have to explain how the core seasonals left the outer islands and on gold island they are still on plant island. They exist on gold because it's the higher plane.
The Continent and Ethereal Workshop are getting updates!
In the Festival of Yay Trailer we see three new monsters! On the Continent we see 2 Monsters never before seen on there, Tuskski and Yool! They both go in the verse with Glowl, Yelmut, Wynq, and Maw!
And then, we go to Ethereal Workshop, where at the very end of the trailer, we see lightning strike, which in turn, shows a Shadow for a brand new workshop monster!
We also get Rare Scargo, Rare Monculus, and Epic Bellowfish!
Edit: Even more updates! We got the Baby Versions of Blabbit and Schmoochle, making the Continent sound… admittedly worse, but then we also got Bowhead, and it is honestly really cool, it’s also on Space Island too!
We also got Flasque, Nitebear, Whaill, Piplash, Vhenshun, X’rt, Pentumbra, Teeter-Tauter, and Rhysmuth on Ethereal Workshop! We’re so close to the finale of Ethereal Workshop, meaning we might be seeing Rares, which is something I honestly don’t know how they’ll pull off! Another thing is that unused verse with Whaill is now in the song! It has every single Ethereal Workshop Monster inside of it, and it’s honestly my favorite verse in, not just Ethereal Workshop, but probably the entire game!
And the big one, Magical Nexus, which was another island teased by Josh Harmon, as we got a teaser for not just Clackula, but also Bonkers, meaning this is an island for all Magical Monsters… except for the Sanctum Monsters… for some reason, but I’m sure we’ll get them eventually!
…aaand we got Mimic in the First Game! Added to Fire Oasis in the Perplexplore 2024 Update, Mimic mimics Spurrit and Gobbleygourd, which is fitting, cuz both of them are silly just like Mimic! I love Mimic’s inclusion!
Oh yeah, Wubbox also got on it’s final island, which just so happens to be the exact same island Mimic got on, and yeah, IT’S RUN ENDED WITH A BANG!!
WOOOO! Version 2! or however you want to word this
close enough
i had no idea who you were before this video but honestly the style of the video, the way the script is delivered AND the great justifications already make me wanna be a long time fan
what a compliment! i appreciate it, and i hope you stick around for the next upload :)
IMO, the island that benefitted most from the fire expansion was Faerie. It might just be my favourite island now, Tuskski and Krillby sound SO good!
hard agree!
I don't want to be annoying but I feel like krillby wasn't talked enough mainly because how krillby dueted with hippity-hop and also how krillby does his little cute dance as hippityhop sings, its golden.
that’s fair. if it makes you feel better, i like Krillby even more than PongPing on Faerie, and i praised the hell out of PongPing
@@theoriginalalex thanks, Im just really infatuated with krillbys sound during that verse and his little dance but yeah thanks for acknowledging it
I personally think that flum ox fits that verse well enough, also I don't find gnarls off-synchness that bad
love the video! and I think the reason why it's says "Watch Out!" in mimic's description is because on cave island it is absolutely massive.
that’s true, and its ability to shapeshift
I remember watching your pvz vids and loving them and then I realised you were ALSO a msm fan. Love this channel
Honestly, I can’t listen to the full magical songs right now with the update, but from what I seen like I want pills improved a lot, plus they added my favourite fire monster( Yelmit ) Most of the magical islands hasn’t changed, but very London improve a little bit.
I believe Flum Ox is on Bone since it was originally a Fire Island with its Elements. For example, that's why Whaddle's Amber Island is so similar to Banjaw. Anyways, I LOVE Flum Ox on Bone lol... The best addition to Bone imo. Despite that, I think it should have been on Psychic because of it meditating and everything. Speaking of Psychic...
Honestly, I've never liked Psychic Island. It's repetitive, and incredibly boring. The Rootitoot verse actually sounds really bad to me, I can't believe it just used to repeat the same thing before the Dipsters. That verse is ASS. Now, Bowhead made the Toe Jammer verses a lot better... but I think it made Rootitoot's verse WORSE. There's no saving that verse, and there's no saving Psychic Island.
I'm really glad you liked Light Island's additions, I love them, it was always a contender for my favorite Magical Island but Faerie usually took the spotlight for me. I think I can safely say Light is my favorite now, mostly due to Yelmut... Whizbang leading in to it's yelling just WORKS. It's amazing.
Speaking of amazing, this video! Great content as always.
love hearing some different opinions, thank you for commenting!!
Probably the best video ive seen in ages. Just the way you speak makes me happy
damn, thank you!
They left us hanging with Ethereal Workshop 😭 at least we've got major updates with the fire monsters. I'm so glad this update to the tier list is out!
i can’t believe my favorite fire elemental (edamimi) went to my favorite magical island
also BOWHEAD GETTING 3 TRACKS AND PLAYING THROUGHOUT A WHOLE SONG AND CANDELAVRA BEING HEARABLE WERE SUCH BUG SUPRISES
Soooooooooooooo, this was an amazing update. Most of the monsters sounded heavenly and were supposed to be on the magical islands from the start!
I just love bone island because it came out during quarantine, so it was really exciting to work on.
I love your new ranking, especially the opinion on Light Island, one of my favorites, also nice monster, love it!
thanks bro!
such an amazing video i've been wanting you to continue this ever since the ethereal workshop
thank you!
Completely off topic, but I love the addition of Angry Birds music in the background!!
Also I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT ETHEREAL WORKSHOP WHEN IT CAME OUT!! I agree with the shortness of it, I can’t wait for more monsters to come out!! I was also so happy about the fire expansion update!! It was a huge shock to me, but my favorite island update out of the ones that got updated in fire expansion is definitely Psychic!! 🐝🐝
Cherry Blossom goes hard
So happy I've found a youtuber that truly enjoys msm and doesn't just use it for content
MSMpokegamer:🗿
Ok ngl, Seeing another gold island lover is amazing, since people think the island is boring, they need to hear the last 20 secs
honestly, the anniversary year update made it sound a little worse. it’s not bad, but i wish they had extended the last verse instead of the middle one 😅
Yelmut fans are FEASTING today
I still wish PongPing was louder on Faerie, he sounds REALLY good
100% agree
I first found your channel via the first MSM tierlist video and have been a big fan ever since, keep up the hard for king 👑❤
Once again knocked it out of a park with this video!
thanks dude!!!!
@theoriginalalex It's very hard to ignore amazing content, the format of these videos are always well-structured!
@@Carno_The_Bowhead_YT seriously appreciate it :)
I have a theory that because fire oasis was the only island not updated with the fire expansion that instead it’ll get an extra monster come perplexlore. And of the 6 islands, only 5 quads have been used… so mimic for oasis make that song even more playful why not
Gnarls sounds too positive for bone island and even garls itself. I think bone was the best magical at the start, but as time went on its calm and solemn essence was lost by the additions, while the opposite happened to the other magical islands.
I can sorta agree with the bone island part, but gnarls isn't confined to being a somber vocalist, it's a choir that can sing in basically any style if it so chooses. That's like saying monsters like mammot and bowgart can only play in one style, yet they both play in lots of other ways.
Rare Spurrit and Rare Bona-Petite were already teased 2 weeks before in MSM’s Extra Life 2023 stream
Not just was it based on past plans, they were all fully composed by dave kerr, and yelmut brings back the original sound he composed
that’s so cool
10:46 i feel like the only reason they added flum ox into bone island is that befire magicals were planned, flum ox was gonna be the quad for bone island until they scrapped it. Until now. (I think one of its verses in amber island is the verse that was supposed to play on bone island too).
since the magical islands were originally fire islands, the original quads for these islands were:
light - yelmut
psychic - edamimi
faerie - krillby
bone - flum ox
this is the reason for big blue bubble putting yelmut on light and flum ox on bone
I honestly believe Yelmut fits Light Island more than Flum Ox. Everyone points to Light Island being the calm song, but it has the most intense and loudest verse among the magical islands. In contrast, Bone Island is fairly chill all around, no spot that would fit Yelmut IMO.
I mean yeah, Flum Ox fits the vibe but Yelmut wouldn’t fit on Bone
The meme transitions are so good
I respect your opinion. Genuinely a great update to the tierlist!
thank you!!
13:03 WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS also great video, it came out as I was watching the original one lol
Epic Stoowarb
@@theoriginalalexmy guy has My Vocalizing Creatures 😭😭😭
12:44. Ever since it’s release, light Island has been one of my favorite islands and the update just makes it better.
Here's my opinion on this insane update. Read if you dare! (sorry for any broken english or spelling errors, english isn't easy lol)
Fire Haven was and still is an "eh" island to me. It just might be my least favorite from the original game (yes, I like Seasonal Shanty more). Candelavera didn't do much, she sounds out of character, atleast Party kind-of hit the mark
Honestly, I would've prefered the Werdos over her. I'm a rare Werdos enjoyer, so I was pretty sad they didn't show up.
Atleast the seasonal skin looks good.
Light has changed quite a bit. I liked Light a lot, probably my 3rd favorite magical island before the update. But now I think it's my 2nd up there with Faerie. I love how Drummidary sounds, Yelmut is surprisingly good, and Tiawa's alright.
Psychic is still my least favorite, but it easily jumped up from a C teir to a high B teir. Bowhead had a wild comeback from Amber, I guess the Monster Handelers realized how much they wasted his potential. The other ones are fine.
I already loved Faerie Island, since it was my favorite magical island and all. But now it's even MORE amazing! It improved the most in my opinion (not like it needed to). I agree that Pong Ping is actually pretty good on Faerie, but he definitely isn't one of my favorite monsters yet. Krillby sounds fantastic, same with Tusksi.
Bone seems to have improved the least. I really like how Flum Ox and Incisaur sound. Though I think Gnarls is kinda weird; like you said, offbeat. Still a great island!
It's ABSURD how much relics this update will cost! I saved them up for the Werdos of course, but I can't even afford Candelavera. I could barely get the Rare variations with Starpower, but I don't even have enough for all of them! Hopefully this update isn't really Feast-Ember exclusive. Maybe it will come around for Gobbleygourds out of season promotion. Hopefully I'll have enough currency by then.
Rare Spurrit, Candelavera and Bona-Petite are cool too I guess
thank you for sharing your opinions!
When I heard dungeon freakshow, I don’t know why but I internally freaked out. I didn’t know alex plays pizza tower!
Faerie island went up from my favourite to my UNDEFATABLE favourite.
To be honest, whenever I heard Yelmut on Light, it sounded just like I expected it to.
Oh yea, do you finally remember... Uhhh, was it Pluckbill? No... Perry the Platypus? I don't know, the sitar one.
who?
@@theoriginalalex I don't know... Was it Blow't? No that's the quad... Oh I got it! Candelavra- Oh wait a minute...
fire expansion looked like a joke to me at first but I love it
haven didn't change much for me, shame they cut back how much buzzinga plays
light (somehow) became even more beautiful and majestic
psychics intro is so badass now, love it
faerie became such a beautiful and amazing song, definitely moved up for me (also krillby hitting a schmoove)
and bone is still great imo, not that impressive of a change but a welcome one. I love flum ox's inclusion, he and kayna work great together
Buzzinga playing only once was a bug that has since been fixed
@@TheMithrilGuy haha, bug 😂
10:39 gotta disagree with you there. Flum ox is the best new fire on the island imo. Gnarls is a bit off beat and Incisaur is….incisaur. I’ve grown to like flum ox more after this update, and this is my favorite interpretation of it. It’s groovy and I honestly think it fits well with the song.
hey, i remember you!
i’m just not a fan of them on Bone. i think they did the best they could, but i prefer Flum Ox on any other island. glad you could appreciate them though!
I love that they took the risk for light island and added my favorite monsters to it! Light was and Is my favorite island (not including dawn of fire)
Fairie Island sounds like Club Penguin now.
due to these, my favorite island list expanded from
mythical island as of 4.0
gold island as of 4.0
to
fire haven as of expansion
faerie island as of expansion
light island as of expansion
mythical island as of 4.0
gold island as of 4.0
my ranking of magical islands(magical sanctum not included)
4th:bone
3rd:psychic
2nd:faire
1st:light
I’m honestly upset that the fire expansion doesn’t have a secret breeding structure. It’s just buying it for relics but I am not wasting my money on relics. I’m really disappointed about that. I’m still happy that they added the monsters, to different islands
yeeeah, plus the Relic costs are ridiculous. maybe a Crucible-like structure on the Magical islands could’ve worked better
Its probably because BBB wanted to make relics and starpower more useful and probably give people who have tribes and amber Island a pat on the back because there sooOO hard to complete 😭
It's also definitely supposed to be a late game objective. Afterall, they emphasized the significance of having a good Amber Island relic generator going in the update. Amber is supposed to be the *last* Island to complete.
@@SailorYaken the probelm is, that the mosnters are only avaiable for a limited time
Tbh, I really think that Flum Ox and Yelmut fits in their current islands. I don't really know how Flum Ox would fit In Light Island and Vice Versa.
i was thinking it was because Light is calmer than Bone, but i think Yelmut works on Light wonderfully
@@theoriginalalex Same, but when I heard them on their islands, I realized that they fit perfectly.
I know tou probably won't see this comment, but I have to ask. Will you be doing another update now that Etherial Workshop is out, or possibly once the new island is released?
Dude this video was fire, my thighs are puddles, and I'm only 12 seconds in. Cleanup on isle, MY PANTS 🗣🗣🔥🔥
LMFAO
Probably the best update we've had so far
Yes MSM is probably one of my favorite games just because they have weekly updates so you basically never board
One of the best*
Light and Psychic island were transformed with this update. Personally, I am not a big fan of Faerie, and Bone felt the same, but if Flum Ox played more, it would have been way better. Fire Haven, oh man. Fire Haven with Candelavra sounds good, but at the same time, it feels over worked. Ever since Buzzinga on Fire Haven, it felt over crowded. Overall, most islands benefitted from this update.
I think the unused gaddzooks track was supposed to be in the last part of the song with auglur meebkin and blarret
Tbh I loooooove light island and bone island. For me they are amazing also ethereal.
I expected candelavra on fire haven but not the rest. I wonder if mimic will be on fire oasis.
Krillby on faerie island sounds more like a faerie monster than the actual faerie monster
You have to be one of the best all-round youtubers (for me at least)
It doesn't matter what you talk about, its always entertaining.
I don't even play MSM anymore, good job.
wow, thanks dude!
Flux ox's verse is so catchy tho 😭.
I got the monsters from fire expansion from using starpower instead of relics since they're rare versions cost starpower, that's how I get them.
WHY DID I FREAKING CRY DURING LIGHT ISLAND!!!
This guy literally plays every single game I play; Geometry dash, my singing monsters, and pvz
13:33 Earth’s only weakness is it being short. Which Hyehehe tried to fix, but didn’t do enough
Light island better be in s tier
Bowhead supremacy!!
Finally more than three seconds of sound!!
We need another follow up with Nexus workshop wave 2-4 baby seasonals on continent and more
n- nexus workshop?
Nexus is in s, watch his yt shorts
incisaur on bone island sounds a lot slower by itself than with the song ngl
Ethereal workshop has a ton of potential! I'd be really happy if big blue bubble actually updated it.
it’ll get an update eventually
Boy it sure would suck if an entirely new island involving the magical's would drop...
Amazing video keep up the good work
hey, i just posted this, how would you know it’s amazing already???
just kidding, thank you :)
To be honest for me fire expasion was amazing I feel I'm upset I can't get all the fire monster but I got yelmut and I'm glad I did since I didn't really like light island that much I mean it was okay but thats it just okay but when the fire monster came it changed my thoughts on it I actually enjoy light island and would actually listien to it more than once the fires on light really help and for the other islands well Psychic Island is still kinda the same but bowhead just carries though I wish that bisonorus was better he was did dirty and I like bisonorus so maybe if he played more and if his sound was different I feel like he barely echos and edamimi is fine and Faerie Island I enjoy it a lot still the fires were great additons they were perfect and bone everything is good their too I like flum ox and gnarls I feel like something more cool could have been done with Incisaur but thats alright =) [why did I write so much]
We got gold island for naturals amber for fire nexus for magicals would really love to see a final ethereal with both the ethereal island monsters monculus and the workshop monsters whenever workshop gets completed in wave 6 and one last thing would love to see some sanctum monsters on nexus
I never knew yelmet out of all monsters would sound so good on light island
3:42 I think a new percussion will be added later in the future
my DOF seasonal prediction goes as following
1st event: Introduced to Cintonent
6 months later (Out Of Season): added to outer island
2nd event: Prismatics
that way we have content for DOF spread out next year and have relatively consistent updates rather than just adding them during their holidays
I though the same for Gnarls, they do sound off beat but Flum Ox and Incisaur sound good
i’m curious to here a quick summary about your thoughts on wave 2 and 3 of ethereal workshop!
I’m honestly shocked fire haven wasn’t changed because candelavera added so much to song and sound so much clearer and Angelic but it’s probably not ur thing if I were u I would’ve put that baby on s+++++++
Personally I don’t know why people dislike the fact that Gnarls is slightly “offbeat”, it provides some polyrhythmic nuance to the song that it didn’t have before, or most other msm songs for that matter. Gnarls itself sounds phenomenal but that little bit of extra depth from the slight de-sync brings it up a tiny bit.
i think i’m getting used to it slowly