I THINK MY C3 RAIDEN IS USELESS NOW 😭

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  • @xanderfett2519
    @xanderfett2519 14 дней назад +78

    I feel like still clearing in less then 20 seconds is more than good enough but I guess my expectations are lower then everyone else’s

  • @Quthology
    @Quthology 14 дней назад +51

    Meanwhile me with c2 raiden and c0r1 arle: *I still want engulfing and c3 raiden*

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo 14 дней назад +161

    *Powercreep at its finest*

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn 14 дней назад +34

      Yep with Fontaine they just said "fuck it we overdid it with Dendro, how do we sell characters again"

    • @mohammedking9
      @mohammedking9 14 дней назад +6

      C3 Raiden With Cheveruse > C3 Arlecchino

    • @matrinezkevin11492
      @matrinezkevin11492 14 дней назад +44

      ​@mohammedking9 lol no. Arlecchino does even more damage in overload than raiden. Raiden isnt a dedicated on field dps so she still does very well considering it isnt how most people will use her.

    • @l1ght930
      @l1ght930 14 дней назад +5

      @@mohammedking9 No not even remotely close

    • @mohammedking9
      @mohammedking9 14 дней назад

      @matrinezkevin11492
      C3r1 Arlecchino with C3r1 Furina And C2r1 Kazuha Being On Par With C3r1 Raiden And Full 4 stars Team
      + Ican Use Furina And Kazuha For Other Side this Is More Than Enough Reason To Say C3 Raiden > C3 Arlecchino and The Proofs Are Abyss Top Runs

  • @benumbrardor8708
    @benumbrardor8708 14 дней назад +30

    C0 Navia still performing really well. c5 keqing aggravate still performing well. Mono hydro koko furina still performing well. Just have good supports and the power creep curve flattens a decent amount

    • @tanaytare1678
      @tanaytare1678 14 дней назад +2

      c5 keqing is not common thing lol

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад +3

      ​@@tanaytare1678I would debate most ppl have c6 keqing. And cons on keqing are pretty terrible anyway, her performance is barely affected by them.

    • @eraba661
      @eraba661 14 дней назад

      I don't think Abyss has gotten that hard so powercreep only exist in characters for now we don't know about future, my Raiden is still doing amazing and plan on building my Keqing and others but have Arle to build first

    • @jubayerislam7412
      @jubayerislam7412 12 дней назад +1

      ​@@ThornsDroighorn, meanwhile me without single copy of keqing💀. I m playing the game like since 1.2 while my both diluc and qiqi r c4

  • @jpbzrra
    @jpbzrra 14 дней назад +22

    misinformation this early in the morning?

  • @S3tsuna1
    @S3tsuna1 14 дней назад +19

    I mean if electro has access to reactions that has dmg multipliers like vaporize and melt it would be a good comparison. This is what makes Electro, Geo and Anemo main dps subpar compared to amplifying reaction based dps. Their strongest teams are mono hypercarry team with niche supports.

    • @miscellaneous7777
      @miscellaneous7777 13 дней назад +3

      Are you stuck in 2020?

    • @S3tsuna1
      @S3tsuna1 13 дней назад

      @@miscellaneous7777 wdym?

    • @Goran-eo5uc
      @Goran-eo5uc 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@S3tsuna1 aggravate and spread reaction buff electro and dendro total dmg

    • @S3tsuna1
      @S3tsuna1 13 дней назад +7

      @@Goran-eo5uc Read what I said "That has damage multipliers like Vaporize and Melt". Aggravate and Spread are "Additive" dmg reaction it ain't like Melt/Vape that "Multiply" the damage by 2x or 1.5x when you trigger those said reaction thus makes them deal more damage.

  • @FerrusFerrazo
    @FerrusFerrazo 14 дней назад +52

    Guys guys, all characters are good enough to win the game, dont be sad about this

    • @vladislaokossak9849
      @vladislaokossak9849 14 дней назад +9

      I swear that I don't understand people that said that one character is trash just it cleared the abyss 0.0000000005 seconds slower than another 😭 genshin is not even that hard

    • @johankaruyan5536
      @johankaruyan5536 14 дней назад

      It is less satisfying, imagine ur triple crowned c6r5 diluc gets outclassed by a c0 character by 30-60 seconds ?​@@vladislaokossak9849

    • @_aster_
      @_aster_ 14 дней назад +2

      well i feel like it's not that we think raiden is bad now, it's just that you spent money to get c3 raiden but a c0 arlecchino did the same thing 😭

    • @vladislaokossak9849
      @vladislaokossak9849 14 дней назад +6

      @@_aster_ You can do the same With diluc, if you spend money just because a character does more damage and not because you like the character then the power creep will make you its toy xD

    • @sora6969
      @sora6969 13 дней назад

      Who cares 😂

  • @Glast04
    @Glast04 14 дней назад

    That Arle burst was so cleannn. Very satisfying to watch!

  • @arturvieira9991
    @arturvieira9991 14 дней назад +2

    My last clears was with those two on both sides. Raiden C2 and Father C1

  • @hermitgreenn
    @hermitgreenn 14 дней назад +30

    There's more to it than that, I swear my Navia does less damage than a month ago and I changed nothing in her build.

    • @sauravthegreat
      @sauravthegreat 14 дней назад +18

      Enemy defense and resistances

    • @kajenjeya9224
      @kajenjeya9224 14 дней назад +13

      Abyss changes blessings, it could be that.

    • @alexferrier5732
      @alexferrier5732 14 дней назад +4

      It is the abyss blessings, cause there is no way hoyo stealth nerfed her, they would get sued.

    • @thetrollxd707
      @thetrollxd707 13 дней назад

      ​​@@alexferrier5732in the terms of use you agree with them being able to change characters things wherever they want
      Still, I think Navia shouldn't have changed much

    • @VrtielA6300
      @VrtielA6300 10 дней назад

      ​@@alexferrier5732 @thetrollxd707
      No and still inescapable from everyone demands to demoting characters. All because of their power levels were not proper with their rarities.
      I've seen a lot of playerbases are harsh judging characters in terms of powers and based on Spiral Abyss only.

  • @kresnasatya
    @kresnasatya 14 дней назад +43

    Thanks Bennett, Kazuha, and Mona.

    • @chomusuke1593
      @chomusuke1593 14 дней назад +4

      which are used by Raiden too

    • @LazerKnight
      @LazerKnight 14 дней назад +4

      what ? raiden did solo run ?

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад +5

      you forgot Sara 😂

    • @aikuch8371
      @aikuch8371 14 дней назад

      Pfft typical low brain arguments and I'm sure you are one of the person said Neuvi can't do sht again hydro slime.

  • @danedane4189
    @danedane4189 14 дней назад +6

    It's all about rotation bro i cleared this 9:47 with c2 raiden with wavefin r4 and c0 chev :) raiden is still good but arle is better character she has vape

    • @Rodrigoiucif
      @Rodrigoiucif 13 дней назад

      Same as me

    • @greed4540
      @greed4540 11 дней назад

      Same, I cleared it in 12sec and she doesn't even have Engulfing lightning.

    • @makar_halaman
      @makar_halaman 11 дней назад

      It's not about rotation, just chev over kazuha close c1 r1 gap

  • @iyxi
    @iyxi 14 дней назад

    me, playing both on a quickswap overload team with chevy. 💃🏻💃🏻

  • @ujjwalshirpurkar1612
    @ujjwalshirpurkar1612 14 дней назад +2

    I can relate bro i have the same setup too😅

  • @antonioguerra1386
    @antonioguerra1386 13 дней назад

    You can also play raiden with furina c2 nahida c2 and baizu, great team

  • @Hadeshi.
    @Hadeshi. 9 дней назад

    Now how many tries was that, because I keep trying to do the same thing but the blue one keep dashing away. 😭😭😭

  • @Mr_RGB_1234
    @Mr_RGB_1234 13 дней назад

    I mean, it's with vaporize and Mona, so while yes, it is technically powercreep but it's also not as it is a different element, plus Raiden is a great battery.

  • @QO-id3yt
    @QO-id3yt 14 дней назад

    Ohhh, I gotta try her with Mona

  • @mickysaif
    @mickysaif 14 дней назад +35

    i still don't regret my c2 raiden as f2p, she's more satisfying

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад +5

      same, I never regret my C1 Arlechino as f2p, pretty dem good even without her sig

    • @eraba661
      @eraba661 14 дней назад +3

      Same I will go for her C2-C3 I already have her at C1R1 and same for Arle I also have her at C1R1 and except them I'm gonna save primos for future characters like Skirk, -Himeko- Murata and Tsaritsa or if any good character come in-between

    • @isaac7272
      @isaac7272 12 дней назад

      @@pudinichigo91 playing arle without her sig is crazy. DPS doesnt matter, but the drip is just too good to skip.

    • @isaac7272
      @isaac7272 12 дней назад

      c3 my raiden like 2 years ago, and she already serve well for 2 year and will continue doing so until this game end. Clearing content 2-3 second faster and calling it powercreep is just stupid in the first place.

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 12 дней назад

      @@isaac7272 I have Homa & Jade Spear, so pulling another Spear is just a waste for my account and I also don't want Lyney weapon

  • @mahaguru0352
    @mahaguru0352 14 дней назад +4

    Wait did your Kujou Sara burst just did DMG equal to my Raiden first slash? What was that 😭😭😭

    • @betulla96
      @betulla96 14 дней назад +3

      C6 Sara burst is underrated af

    • @yahav7818
      @yahav7818 14 дней назад

      I think c2 kazuha too

    • @riddhiroy4722
      @riddhiroy4722 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@yahav7818C2 Kazuha doesn't matter in hypercarry comps

  • @ankitjadhav6775
    @ankitjadhav6775 14 дней назад +1

    Meanwhile i still haven't been able to get that Final Good Er Sandpiece for My C0 Raiden and she got powercrept now Whats the Point of Building

  • @abusayeemrafi
    @abusayeemrafi 14 дней назад +3

    How about an Arlecchino Nuke Showcase today....

    • @onihiroo
      @onihiroo 14 дней назад

      yeah this is not fair at all

  • @freshlymemed5680
    @freshlymemed5680 7 дней назад +1

    I mean I'll take any team that can beat triple mango in less than 1 minute but I guess my expectations are more lenient.

  • @QualityContent1290
    @QualityContent1290 14 дней назад +15

    r4 primo jade💀

  • @re.n8208
    @re.n8208 14 дней назад +8

    And this is why I do not pull for dmg increases on DPS... I can get behind support constellations but it gives me the same feeling.
    I mostly pull for comfort upgrades. Nowadays I'd like to say Raiden is an Hyperbloom bot but actually I don't even use her for that... She's walled by shields and Shinobu has too amazing role compression to be ignored.
    If someone told me I would end up using Yae more I would have laugh on release... Ngl, all Electro 5* are disappointments for me... And with Clorinde beta nerfs I feels she's not the one I expected...
    Long story short, the smart ones just play Shinobu, Beidou and Fischl. That's good enough and arguably funnier.

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад +1

      funnier are subjective

    • @biscy03
      @biscy03 14 дней назад +2

      Same, I've always liked Miko more but I'm still surprised I use her way more than Raiden xD If you need off field electro, I'd pick like 4 charas over Raiden & if I wanted an Electro mdps, I'd still pick Miko tbh
      Kuki is just way more convenient to use for hyperbloom, even if Ei is faster, I dont see the point in being like a few seconds faster but not having role compression. Fisch & Beidou & even Miko are good off field.
      Still hoping for that good electro hypercarry to come around. Its a pity Clorinde is not what I wanted

  • @fredym.5650
    @fredym.5650 13 дней назад

    Me with my C0 Raiden using Catch:🤔 Interesting

  • @Revani
    @Revani 14 дней назад

    Isn't the nuke dmg after arlec CA c2?

  • @greed4540
    @greed4540 11 дней назад

    Meanwhile my C3 Raiden with Catch cleared it in 12sec with the same team.

  • @muhammadfikriaulia9861
    @muhammadfikriaulia9861 14 дней назад +4

    meanwhile im using both
    raiden c2 double hydro with furina
    n
    arle vv vape

  • @ZatchQQ
    @ZatchQQ 14 дней назад +3

    wuthering is waiting for you brother

  • @Roze-_
    @Roze-_ 14 дней назад

    What website for stat showcase?

  • @andreyegovtsev9921
    @andreyegovtsev9921 14 дней назад +2

    Raiden more powerful in overload team with Chevreuse + Raiden always gets heal
    If we consider them in terms of comfort, they are the same, because Arlecchino need shield

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад

      Skills issues probably

    • @andreyegovtsev9921
      @andreyegovtsev9921 14 дней назад

      @@pudinichigo91 The time for dodging also needs to be taken into account. Raiden can stand still during Q

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад

      @@andreyegovtsev9921 that why I said skill issue, Arlecchino doesn't need shield if you know how to dodge

  • @zlm2g
    @zlm2g 14 дней назад +1

    bang 58 detik bisa di bikin short yt bang😭

  • @andrinaleong4079
    @andrinaleong4079 13 дней назад

    Use Raiden-Yelan-Jean-Furina team, next best Furina team after Neuvillette. Love the rotation and decimate everything so fast.

  • @ThatOneOddGuy
    @ThatOneOddGuy 14 дней назад

    I have both but I have sands polearm but not Ei's signiture althouh she is c3 so thats nice

  • @cwaccc
    @cwaccc 14 дней назад +8

    Bro my C3 Arlecchino has similar time to kill to my friend's C6 Neuvillette 🗿🗿

    • @NPC5273
      @NPC5273 14 дней назад +1

      Cwaccc

    • @Thexypher1
      @Thexypher1 14 дней назад +1

      Powercreep at its finest

    • @WallensteinsCh
      @WallensteinsCh  13 дней назад

      Damn Cwack, I want that C3 Arlecchino

    • @cwaccc
      @cwaccc 13 дней назад

      @@WallensteinsCh you can try her if you want :hmm:

    • @JEFFNoTClick
      @JEFFNoTClick 12 дней назад

      ​@@Thexypher1 powercreep doesn't exist in genshi lol u only doing it faster, it's not a pvp game, and u can still do things with old characters.

  • @ahfizz91
    @ahfizz91 11 дней назад

    im also c3 raiden and i can do 12s. still usefull

  • @NotYourMoses
    @NotYourMoses 14 дней назад +9

    lmao😂still going for that C2 Raiden idc😮

  • @mahdilatif8899
    @mahdilatif8899 11 дней назад

    imagine if it was c3 arle they would have died even before her burst😞

  • @Rodrigoiucif
    @Rodrigoiucif 13 дней назад

    My Raiden C2 did in 13, Navia in 17..

  • @x3m9x
    @x3m9x 14 дней назад +1

    If all three kenkis crits on that raiden ult, they would have same clear time maybe 0.5s difference. C3 vs C0 is prolly the funny part here

    • @Goran-eo5uc
      @Goran-eo5uc 13 дней назад

      Not to mention that raiden have proper signature artifact and weapon while arle only given some 5 star standart polearm with the most og classic gladiator set

    • @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy
      @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy 11 дней назад +1

      @@Goran-eo5uc glad set performs the same as signature if you're not C2 and c6, besides his kazuha was c2 which is an extremely huge bonus and mona isn't really an option for arle, yes she's freaking amazing for nuke (2x for vape, ttds, instructor, debuff, more debuff with cons, crit with cons) but she's really not a constant applier meaning she'll lose a really really huge load of her damage without mona, not to mention arle had the best abyss blessing she could while raiden didn't benefit from it and raiden has shorter rotation resulting in naturally lower dpr with the same dps, not to mention jade is c4 which is another huge bonus, is that really what you call equal?

    • @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy
      @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy 11 дней назад +1

      I don't think That's realistic all of them critting, not to mention the RNG and effort you need for it(yeah I know these runs both need rng but c'mon, don't you want some comfort?)

    • @x3m9x
      @x3m9x 11 дней назад

      @@MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy and that arlecchino crits all her hits while having the same crit rate, your point? If wallenstein do some retries on raiden's run to crit all three, they should clear roughly the same time. If theres a coincidence that wallenstein's first run on arlecchino is all crit whilst raiden's first run didnt crit at all, would you look at this the same way? Even if it is unrealistic, its better to see it when all other factors are kept the same for better comparison

    • @x3m9x
      @x3m9x 11 дней назад

      @@Goran-eo5uc I dont think the time would change, hes using jade spear R4 which is be comparable to her signature and she wacks the kenki's three times and ult, i dont think he can reduce it to two hits with the whimsey set. If wallen can reduce time taken on the setups, then arlecchino should be faster

  • @nottyseel949
    @nottyseel949 14 дней назад +1

    Kinda reasonable since Raiden decreases ER requirements so she has really strong support options compared to the one trick Arlecchino. Fair Chino does the one trick better
    Also, my c4 Mona powercrept my c2 Kazuha on almost all teams. That was unexpected, but nice.

  • @ciroidchavez246
    @ciroidchavez246 14 дней назад +1

    Imagine if you have c3 Arlecchino as well (on her next rerun) 🤭🤭

    • @KS-ik1zl
      @KS-ik1zl 14 дней назад

      I do and she's glorious. Just soloed the first half of the abyss within the time limit lmao. Hope you can get her

    • @re.n8208
      @re.n8208 14 дней назад

      I have C2, I mostly pulled for the QoL, because I don't really care for dmg upgrade. But in term of power C0 is perfectly fine. Just a bit frail maybe.
      Also C2 feels different in term of setup, so I'm a bit lost. It's weird to be able to use Shime for instance.

    • @ciroidchavez246
      @ciroidchavez246 14 дней назад

      @@KS-ik1zl OMG you do that as well hehe me too(I have her on c3 as well)... as a NON-Neuvillette haver... when I got Arlecchino, I am literally doing Solo of her on every abyss reset now, it's like;
      Before Arlecchino: I'm using 8 characters on Spiral Abyss 😁
      After Arlecchino: I'm only doing 5 characters now on Spiral Abyss (since she can solo anyway) 🤣

    • @mohammedking9
      @mohammedking9 14 дней назад

      C3 Raiden With Cheveruse > C3 Arlecchino

    • @re.n8208
      @re.n8208 14 дней назад

      @@mohammedking9 Have you met C3 Arlecchino with Chevreuse?

  • @NieR9S
    @NieR9S 14 дней назад +1

    Can I have your Raiden then ?

  • @haroldmacias8063
    @haroldmacias8063 13 дней назад

    Try whith furina Yelan and jean.

  • @Kay-ol2ev
    @Kay-ol2ev 11 дней назад

    wait till chlorinde pulls up

  • @omidmozaffari9344
    @omidmozaffari9344 13 дней назад

    you can use them both...

  • @SLACKER-el4fi
    @SLACKER-el4fi 14 дней назад +1

    Don't worry! be C6R5 like me then it won't be useless =))

  • @mrrrrktnk
    @mrrrrktnk 14 дней назад

    imagine raiden critting on 3rd kenki 🤭

  • @EvilQwack
    @EvilQwack 14 дней назад

    I wish they add characters that can parry and mechanics that reward perfect parry.

    • @ottaviomartinez4068
      @ottaviomartinez4068 12 дней назад

      Beidou?

    • @EvilQwack
      @EvilQwack 12 дней назад

      @@ottaviomartinez4068 you gotta wait for the cool down. I was thinking something like sekiro style

  • @manilarome9600
    @manilarome9600 3 дня назад

    Doesn't matter. I use both in Abyss xD

  • @joeyjoestar1282
    @joeyjoestar1282 14 дней назад

    OMG! Kujou Sare deals 160k dmg :P

  • @Zura2091
    @Zura2091 10 дней назад

    Raiden's crit stats☠️

  • @MJAY552
    @MJAY552 14 дней назад +3

    There is no need to compare to units who have different elements with reactions. Electro doesn't have reaction damage as Vaporize. Raiden's it's only Hypercarry, while Arlecchino's got both hypercarry + vaporize reaction buff.

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад

      Pyro character have naturally less multipliers than non pyro characters because they have vape. Arle is just better than Raiden, even in non vape teams she deals more damage and clears faster.

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 14 дней назад

      @@ThornsDroighorn Yes but arlecchino has higher multiplier here. And I agree Arlecchino is stronger, am just stating that it's not necessary to compare them when one is already stronger without reaction anyways.

  • @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy
    @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy 14 дней назад +2

    Bro, is dealing 1.5 million damages in 7 seconds in a really really short rotation low??? ☠️
    Besides not to mention arle's not consistent with mona in a lot of situations so much that she's not an option if you don't RNG, just remove mona and she's doing much lower(debuff, vape, ttds, instructor set and more debuff and bonus crit as well if you have cons) not to mention that R4 jade and abyss blessing, yes abyss blessing it's specially designed for arle but doesn't benefit raiden since all her normal, plunge and charge are considered burst not normals and stuff, that's why her slashes work with emblem set but doesn't work with yunjin, beidou, xiangyung in her burst form (I don't still now how they work with xingque and yelan though but I'm happy they do)
    I'm not trying to downlplay anything, arle is still too much powerful without these but I don't think there's such a thing as powercreep in genshin as they're spending whole patches in beta for upcoming characters to balance them, the real powercreep lies in team compositions, comfort of use and ease of rotations which I can say they're both very competitive at but arle's more fun tbh
    All of that said aside they're very pleasant runs though, thank you ❤
    Edit: I didn't notice but that kazuha was C2? You already know that's a big plus for arle, a really really big one

    • @ammarnk9260
      @ammarnk9260 13 дней назад

      Bro wrote an essay to try and cope

    • @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy
      @MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy 11 дней назад +2

      @@ammarnk9260 @ammarnk9260 if you read it you'd be the one coping here dude, raiden has really really short rotations and she does near 1.5 mil with a non nuke build without abyss blessing ... why should I cope exactly? An attractive title for a video? Or the R4 jade? I love arle but as I said there's really no powercreep unless you compare old cons vs new

  • @tsuyuhane4337
    @tsuyuhane4337 11 дней назад

    But is it lore accurate, I wonder? 🧐

  • @saaaaaaaaalt838
    @saaaaaaaaalt838 14 дней назад

    Not sure about that boss. I just tried it. I for sure have a worse build than yours and C2 but I still nuked the 3 kenkis with burst and 1 CA.
    Dunno why you did so little damage to the main Kenki, they all died just as fast for me. Plus, mona is not very sustainable for perlonged fights which I guess is irrelevant in this case.

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 14 дней назад +8

    I mean my c3 Raiden one-shots them all. I don't think there's any boat in which I'd call that useless.

    • @leonardomeloni69
      @leonardomeloni69 14 дней назад +4

      That depends on investment level.
      Even if his Raiden's burst got all 3 together, she would have finished same time as Arle: 09:46
      Point is one is a C3 character, while the other is C0

    • @Camelia437
      @Camelia437 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@leonardomeloni69 His Kazuha is C2R1, everyone should know how good is his C2 for vaporize and his weapon is very good too.

    • @YOUZANSEN
      @YOUZANSEN 14 дней назад +4

      @@leonardomeloni69a well built c3 raiden can at least finish at 9:50. I know someone finish them at 9:54

  • @cronos1943
    @cronos1943 14 дней назад +7

    Two words: Interruption resistance... For me, it makes a world of difference...

    • @pudinichigo91
      @pudinichigo91 14 дней назад +6

      you dont need that if enemy already died

    • @captainbeefheartt
      @captainbeefheartt 14 дней назад

      Two words: Skill issue

    • @alexferrier5732
      @alexferrier5732 14 дней назад +5

      You can get that too with C1 Arle, not to mention a huge 25% total dmg increase

    • @eraba661
      @eraba661 14 дней назад

      @@alexferrier5732 Well yeah we do get that but i hope i don't get to use it cause she cannot heal but its amazing as she can dodge and still keep her BOL going while for Raiden she can heal but her burst will run out so its give and take, unless u have Nuvi C1 he can both heal and got interruption resistance

    • @ankitjadhav6775
      @ankitjadhav6775 14 дней назад +1

      Doesn't arle have that too what do u read

  • @rifanmahdi6552
    @rifanmahdi6552 14 дней назад +2

    That's how developers vilify the characters they once created by making new characters that are more OP without the need for effort by providing mindless scaling.

  • @Oeshikito
    @Oeshikito 14 дней назад +2

    Was this done with the def shred abyss blessing? Because that blessing doesn't do much for a C2+ Raiden since she already has def ignore but Arlecchino benefits massively from it.

    • @sweatymobilegamer784
      @sweatymobilegamer784 14 дней назад

      it was RES shred, not DEF 🤦‍♂️. that’s like the bare minimum you should’ve got right

    • @Oeshikito
      @Oeshikito 14 дней назад

      @@sweatymobilegamer784 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
      Don't get technical with me little man. My point still stands, the blessing isn't doing much for a C2+ Raiden but it's huge for Arle.

    • @shifu1311
      @shifu1311 14 дней назад

      @@Oeshikitoif it was during the blessing, then they benefitted equally. The blessing gave 30% universal RES shred from triggering any pyro related reaction. The raiden team triggered overload when Bennett used Q while the kenkis were affected by electro, so raiden also got the extra 30% RES shred

    • @Oeshikito
      @Oeshikito 14 дней назад

      @@shifu1311 I know even Raiden can trigger it but I'm saying that Arle is balanced around having higher numbers because she doesn't have def ignore innately. Raiden is not like that. Plus I'm pretty sure the uploader has a C2r1 kazuha and that's huge for vape teams as opposed to Raiden teams.

    • @sweatymobilegamer784
      @sweatymobilegamer784 14 дней назад

      @@Oeshikito Tf you mean don’t get technical lmao? You’re literally just blatantly wrong. DEF and RES are two entirely different quantities. You should read up on it, kid.

  • @touchedme1637
    @touchedme1637 14 дней назад +1

    Here is another example of players forgetting raiden was not a Main DPS to begin with.
    Like how Yelan is not a main DPS but is being compared to Neuv.
    If Cons is what gives you your damage, then you never really had damage to begin with.

    • @leonardomeloni69
      @leonardomeloni69 14 дней назад

      C2-C3 Raiden back then had the power of a C6 character. Raiden's case is a peculiar one and yet there's no point in defending her.
      She's strong but not very practical in many situations

    • @biscy03
      @biscy03 14 дней назад

      But she is though. Its not like she is like the other archons who do all their utilities & dmg off field. Her skill is only useful if its a hyperbloom team, otherwise it does almost nothing. & Raiden does great damage even at c0. All Raiden teams (except hyperbloom) Have Raiden on field.

    • @touchedme1637
      @touchedme1637 14 дней назад

      @@biscy03 So I'm assuming you're a player that existed AFTER dendro.

    • @touchedme1637
      @touchedme1637 14 дней назад +1

      @leonardomeloni69 So again, if you need cons you don't actually have damage. Everyone's good with a thousand dollars

    • @leonardomeloni69
      @leonardomeloni69 14 дней назад

      @@touchedme1637 nice how you dodged my comment instead

  • @ayasolaris4971
    @ayasolaris4971 14 дней назад

    Is Neuvi faster than this?

  • @Sarutobi-xd4pw
    @Sarutobi-xd4pw 14 дней назад

    Well, it's unfortunately largely due to the difference between elements. Pyro has access to amplifying reactions that multiply its damage while electro doesn't (only additive damage from quicken/aggravate and extra damage if hyperbloom). Now recall the damage increase Raiden gets from C2/C3 vs C0. Isn't it equivalent to somewhere between a reverse and a forward amp multiplier? It does have the benefit of applying to all of her burst form damage, so no need to worry about ICDs and elemental aura setup and management (btw, HoYo sort of copied this over to Lyney and his passive). Anyways, this was the crux of it for me and why I always had the thought at the back of my mind that her early constellations were overhyped. It gave off (at least to me) the impression of a vape/melt enabler locked behind a paywall. If the effective damage increase was more than a forward amp then the hype may have been justified. Sadly, it wasn't.
    Nevertheless, I wouldn't call it useless. It's still a damage increase that those who want it or already have it would welcome. But... It is what it is, I suppose...

    • @ammarnk9260
      @ammarnk9260 13 дней назад

      The thing is, Arlecchino doesn't need reactions at all to do this damage.

    • @Sarutobi-xd4pw
      @Sarutobi-xd4pw 13 дней назад

      @@ammarnk9260 I'm aware and I agree. Thanks for adding the "not to mention..." part I didn't include. I was talking more about Raiden and damage increases (be it from reactions or virtually from constellations, etc.)
      Anyway, with Arlecchino already having a very strong baseline/floor, we can agree that her pyro element is a plus for her, right?

  • @user-ch6pb4dl7k
    @user-ch6pb4dl7k 14 дней назад

    так сейчас бафф бездны для Арлекино

  • @Yoshimura_69
    @Yoshimura_69 14 дней назад

    Hmm. Waiting for Clorinde to be compared to Raiden

  • @williamrangel8756
    @williamrangel8756 14 дней назад +2

    Raiden c3 vs kazuha C2, mona c6 and Arlequino C0

  • @TkGame_Edits
    @TkGame_Edits 14 дней назад +13

    For once I agree that there’s too much power creep in Genshin

    • @otakunuha
      @otakunuha 14 дней назад +5

      not much as star rail 😶‍🌫️

    • @TkGame_Edits
      @TkGame_Edits 14 дней назад +1

      @@otakunuha it’s the dps for Genshin and supports for hsr

    • @leblancattire5951
      @leblancattire5951 14 дней назад +2

      its only 3 seconds difference. Powercreep means nothing in Genshin.

    • @otakunuha
      @otakunuha 14 дней назад

      @@TkGame_Edits seele jing yuan blade
      them compair them to dan heng jingliu then compair them to acheron like its fking huge dps difference not only support seele jing yuan blade atleast take 5 cycles dang heng jingliu take atleast 3 cycles if come to acheron almost 1-2 cycle (f2p taking btw not whale) my English is bad still i hope u could understand

    • @TkGame_Edits
      @TkGame_Edits 14 дней назад +1

      @@otakunuha ok true on that part

  • @AmithRawal-uy8gg
    @AmithRawal-uy8gg 13 дней назад

    Give me the supporters builds bro..

  • @Luuk45798
    @Luuk45798 14 дней назад +2

    I did it in 8 seconds with raiden

    • @Uchihabeater
      @Uchihabeater 14 дней назад

      Is she c6?

    • @Luuk45798
      @Luuk45798 14 дней назад +1

      @@Uchihabeater raiden’s C4, C5 and C6 don’t change her damage

    • @Uchihabeater
      @Uchihabeater 14 дней назад

      @@Luuk45798 true but constellation 3 and 5 can let you level up her talents so u can do more damage right? Or do u use a special team?

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 14 дней назад

      ​@@Uchihabeater her skill +3 levels are useless at c5

    • @Uchihabeater
      @Uchihabeater 14 дней назад

      @@mickysaif I have mine at c2 r1 but idk if I shall invest in her signature weapon?

  • @alport1331
    @alport1331 14 дней назад +1

    Buffed Vape vs. buffed raw damage in single instance. It's a no contest. Even replace Arle with Hu Tao and they can get near similar results as long as Hu Tao's CA can line up perfectly against the Kenkis.

  • @renaldisetiono3790
    @renaldisetiono3790 14 дней назад +1

    Well they have... different value, Raiden herself has role as energy supplier eventhough she could give good damage, while arlecchino is really really pure born as dps with decent self sustainbility

  • @Reihjart
    @Reihjart 14 дней назад

    When was this? Last cycle didnt you need to do a pyro reaction to get the resistance shred from the blessing of the abyssal moon? you didnt have any pyro on raiden team.

    • @riddhiroy4722
      @riddhiroy4722 14 дней назад +1

      So what element is Bennett buddy? Cryo?

    • @Reihjart
      @Reihjart 13 дней назад +1

      @@riddhiroy4722 lmao. I was half asleep.

  • @yaemiko9969
    @yaemiko9969 12 дней назад

    Raiden can do more than dmg,

  • @ryanrequired7624
    @ryanrequired7624 14 дней назад +4

    they technically cleared at the exact same time tho, if raiden's first slash didnt miss one kenki

  • @l1ght930
    @l1ght930 14 дней назад +5

    Raiden Simps are Malding 😭

  • @Fam98KK
    @Fam98KK 14 дней назад +8

    She fell off Long ago, people just coped.
    A C0 Raiden Full EM does more damage on Alhaitham team as sub dps than she does as a Hyper invested carry

    • @onihiroo
      @onihiroo 14 дней назад

      Good thing more damage doesn't mean more fun

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 14 дней назад

      It terms of general DPSes in the game yes, but so far she is strongest Electro dps.

    • @Fam98KK
      @Fam98KK 14 дней назад

      @@MJAY552 Strongest DPS yeah but with Nahida, Yae and Cyno bring same value of DPS. If anything Yae and Cyno can bring more flexibility where you don't need strict rotation to do the real damage.

    • @Fam98KK
      @Fam98KK 14 дней назад

      @@onihiroo here's the worst part, She is not flexible at all and needs strict rotation to do the actual damage.
      You can use Neuvillete, wriothesley,Arlechino,Navia, Alhaitham,Cyno,Nilou,wanderer and even upcoming Clorinde in random rotations while the Characters like Raiden,Lyney,Childe,Ayaka,xiao where if you make mistakes in the rotation your 50%-100% DPS is screwed.

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 14 дней назад

      @@Fam98KK She is not recommended in aggravate teams that's why Yae, Cyno and Fischl are recommended in that team comb, but outside of aggravate, she can be used in any team that need single or AoE electro application. So she has higher flexibility aswell.

  • @UshiMain
    @UshiMain 14 дней назад +1

    My friend has almost all the characters and her raiden is C5R1. Still can't 36* the abyss lol. She says she regrets getting her.

    • @betulla96
      @betulla96 14 дней назад +4

      She has a bad case of skill issue I'm sorry

    • @sara_s1737
      @sara_s1737 14 дней назад +2

      The amount of skill issue it takes to not 36* with a C5 limited 5* should not be possible

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад

      I do regret to say that this is a massive skill issue, or perhaps she has no good second team

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад +1

      wait, she has almost all characters? humongous skill issue lol

  • @AH_125
    @AH_125 14 дней назад +1

    what do you mean raiden in never useless this video was unexpected from someone we love like you this not coll such a downgrate to raiden

    • @ankitjadhav6775
      @ankitjadhav6775 14 дней назад

      Learn english

    • @black_corvus99
      @black_corvus99 14 дней назад

      Cry more kid

    • @AH_125
      @AH_125 14 дней назад

      @@ankitjadhav6775 I DONT NEED IT HONEY 🫦

    • @AH_125
      @AH_125 14 дней назад

      @@black_corvus99 I NEED YOUR MOMMY MILK 👄👄👄

  • @nexuhs.
    @nexuhs. 14 дней назад +2

    I wouldn't say powercreep, more like there isn't an actual strong eletro dps since forever, they're either weak or supports, or cyno with too locked rotations
    (Raiden ends up not being a pure DPS since she has the ER mechanic that no other character has, so it's more dps for the team and less ER substats or weapons)

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад +1

      cyno actually deals more damage than raiden, raiden has big frontload damage though

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад

      ​@@ascreamingarcticfox5395unfortunately characters that don't deal front loaded damage don't clear as fast, Cyno is technically worse than Raiden by proxy.

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад +1

      @@ThornsDroighorn not true, raidens frontload is backhanded since after you use her burst her dps isnt that great, cyno maintains consistently high dps throughout the entire rotation. neuvilette and xiao are examples of dps's who dont really have huge frontload but are still amazing

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад +1

      for example, my c4 cyno with c2 nahida was only 10 seconds below this persons raiden clear. keep in mind cyno doesnt have access to easy grouping of kenki like cyno does. i used cyno - yelan - nahida - baizhu. if i had used furina, i probably would of cleared faster than raiden. I also do not have cynos signature, which is a huge dps increase over homa

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 14 дней назад +1

      this was without 5* weapon supports by the way, if yelan were to of used elegy instead, nahida on her sig, and baizhu on ttds instead pamber, i would have cleared even faster.

  • @rovinteyvat4706
    @rovinteyvat4706 14 дней назад

    The goat casually leaving out that R4 PJWS hahaha but still, awesome showcase 🎉🎉🎉

  • @mulipe8009
    @mulipe8009 14 дней назад

    Na. Not true. She is an electro and can support others unlike Arlecchino. No character is useless.🙂

  • @solaswolfer1503
    @solaswolfer1503 14 дней назад

    I've always found Sara c6 to be a fairly useless character unless specifically used with Raiden, which is quite sad after all the effort I put in to get her. It must be said that Raiden is a unique character, even as a sub dps he is enormous, I will probably use my C2 together with Clorinde.
    (bro wtf I saw your sands ER 20 crit dmg 10 crit rate now I hate you and unsubscribe 😂😂)

  • @moodiiperson7474
    @moodiiperson7474 8 дней назад

    Jesus the Raiden hate comments are real. Literally anyone can clear any content, just play who you fuckin like y'all. 😭

  • @worldwrestlingintertanmant2259
    @worldwrestlingintertanmant2259 14 дней назад +4

    Still raiden way more versatile unit than arlecchino

    • @devriki08
      @devriki08 14 дней назад

      Cope lmao, raiden will become trash once Clorinde release, as an archon and even gameplay wise she is meh.

    • @worldwrestlingintertanmant2259
      @worldwrestlingintertanmant2259 14 дней назад +1

      @@devriki08 it's still not certain
      Things she can do:-
      Battery
      Dps
      Off field electro application
      Off field dps.
      What you said can be true according to clorinde's kit

    • @kapparex4959
      @kapparex4959 14 дней назад

      @@worldwrestlingintertanmant2259 u forget she is good
      dendro support ,

  • @RusyDena98
    @RusyDena98 14 дней назад

    Thus why I never chase meta and numbers.

  • @AlexAmor7
    @AlexAmor7 14 дней назад +2

    Could have used someone other than mona and still cleared faster without making the show look like like hypercarry vs nuke team lol

    • @AlexAmor7
      @AlexAmor7 14 дней назад

      also could have used OL raiden that should have a faster setup.

    • @biscy03
      @biscy03 14 дней назад

      @@AlexAmor7 The Kazuha is c2, its probably better than Chevreuse.

  • @poochycosme
    @poochycosme 14 дней назад

    I cleared this with C0 Catch Raiden hyper with C5 Sara (Skyward harp) and C0 R0 Kazuha and sapwood bennett (my initial slash does 200k and yours does 600k
    It's because you spent way too long on the setup,didn't pyro infuse Kazuha's burst (and missed a crit on Raiden because you severely lack crit rate
    I mainly said this to adress people saying it's power creep

  • @TheLegendofRPG
    @TheLegendofRPG 14 дней назад +2

    Unfortunately it's more like elements reaction privilege, pyro+hydro just powerful and more important raiden team dont have any reaction here hmm🤨

    • @biscy03
      @biscy03 14 дней назад

      Its Raiden's best team

  • @MAQGMO
    @MAQGMO 14 дней назад

    abys buff

  • @koru8495
    @koru8495 14 дней назад

    nah we cant compare them, we should have been compare her and clorinde after she released

  • @SuperHaoken
    @SuperHaoken 14 дней назад

    Well Raiden is not justna dps. She is the best battery of the game. Plus there is the dendro too.
    I don't like using her in a hypercarry team.

  • @xiaosgaming7266
    @xiaosgaming7266 13 дней назад

    Useless isn't the right word, still get the job done excellently

  • @hadihkadal1533
    @hadihkadal1533 14 дней назад +1

    Susah susah build raiden jadi sampah, mending raiden ganti profensi ke hyperbloom,

  • @sakshamv26
    @sakshamv26 14 дней назад +1

    Crit dmg on raiden :- less than 180%
    Crit dmg on arlechinno :- more than 200%
    And resistance against certain elements could be there too

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад +4

      Raiden requires far more investment into ER%. Raiden will always have less crit rate and crit DMG than anyone else because she needs so much ER%
      Arle shouldn't ever need ER if you don't take damage so all the stats that originally would go into ER can go into Cr and Cdmg

    • @sakshamv26
      @sakshamv26 14 дней назад

      @@ThornsDroighorn does any of her constellation solve that issue? I didn't get both of them sadly

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад

      @@sakshamv26 None of her cons give her crit DMG or crit rate for ER. However she does gain electro DMG bonus from ER through her A4 passive.

    • @sakshamv26
      @sakshamv26 14 дней назад

      @@ThornsDroighorn oh well, what's your opinion on the builds in this video? Is arlechinno stronger than her as a dps?

    • @ThornsDroighorn
      @ThornsDroighorn 14 дней назад

      I think they're quite fair comparisons.
      A Raiden with almost 300 ER and that crit ratio is really good. If you look at their artifacts they're also quite amazing. R1 signature, bis set etc...
      Arle doesn't have her signature however she does have an r4 PJWS which might be about the same as her bis. She also doesn't have her bis artifact set but instead gladiators which is a little worse. Stats are about the same as Raiden's, relatively anyway.
      Triple Kenki don't have any outstanding resistances to either electro or pyro do thats also out the window.
      I think Arle having so much front loaded damage and high multipliers make her better than Raiden. Also this Arle is C0, the Raiden is C3

  • @ozymandias2630
    @ozymandias2630 14 дней назад +3

    Powercreep ruined this game, gg Hoyoverse

    • @otakunuha
      @otakunuha 14 дней назад +2

      u better not to play honkai star rail seele jing yuan and blade they really got so much powercreep

    • @otakunuha
      @otakunuha 14 дней назад

      like littrly bruh

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 14 дней назад +6

      nothing is ruined bruh every character is still usable

    • @deadencicle
      @deadencicle 14 дней назад +1

      Most players on social medias begged for power creep for years.

    • @otakunuha
      @otakunuha 14 дней назад

      @@mickysaif not taking about usage u can still clear with any character even with the aloy(if u r new weakest character in the game everyone got for the free during collab)