So at the end the doctor essentially guessed a lever and only in the timeline where he survived was he able to travel back and tell himself which was the right one Making it so all the other possible levers he could have chosen were no longer possible Man I love time travel
This Bootstrap should not have happened unless no Doctor came through the first time and he guessed right anyway. And even then, you probably still have to subscribe to Many Worlds theory for that to work, which the show... Oh yeah, actually it does xD So meanwhile in at least as many parallel universes as the TARDIS has levers, causality was destoyed. :)
@@RandomNameLastName811 seems pretty spot on to me. Its like the box and a bomb test, a variation of the schrodinger's cat thought experiment, you sit in a sealed box with a bomb that has a 50% chance to explode every second. The bomb keeps not exploding because for you to experience it not exploding you have to be alive. Meanwhile, every second an alternate reality where you die is generated, with offshoots generated for every world where you live, and presumably and minute changes you made to the setup, but still you are experiencing the lucky version where you live cuz otherwise you would be dead. In this case, in every version that the doctor could survive by using a lever, the doctor tried some combination of levers, and its only the single reality that resulted in the doctor surviving that was allowed to go back and tell himself how to survive
There are (at least) two ways of looking at time travel, one is where timelines are still being drawn, meaning that you can go back and change something in the past, which then changes the entire future from that point on (this is the main one used in Doctor Who) and the other way, where timelines are fixed and if someone goes back in time to change something then nothing happens to the future as it has already happened. For example, you go back into your past to give yourself a pen. You have always remembered yourself giving you this pen. This way is used in Harry Potter. So the way you view time travel all depends on your own personal perspective.
@@safebox36 It didn't really came from nowhere. Every other possible choice would've destroyed the TARDIS in both space and time, so all possible choices collapsed into the only one where the Doctor guessed right. So it's sorta like a quantum waveform collapse. The Doctor just had to wait for his surviving future self to pop out with the answer.
you made a video of the scene from the perspective of the Interior and Exterior of the TARDIS, How about one showing the perspective of above and below the glass floor.
For those of you who found this too confusing and couldn't figure out some things (I don't blame you) 1st, The interior is in another dimension, there for, it is completely possible for the exterior to go inside the interior. 2nd, The exterior is probably in a fragile state after going in side itself, because of that, the doctor slamming the door pushed the exterior about a minute into the future. 3rd, The exterior may be in a fragile state, but it's still the strong TARDIS, that's why it took a few seconds for it to shift to the future. 4th, After the Doctor slams the door, the exterior shifts about a minute into the future. If you pay attention, you'll see the amount of time Amy and Rory spend in the TARDIS with themselves is noticeably shorter than the amount of time Amy spent in the TARDIS with herself, as well, the Doctor spends even less time with himself, only a few seconds. This is because the TARDIS is more or less "intelligent", as soon as the Doctor slams the door, the exterior shifts about a minute into the future, changing the "Space Loop" into a "Time Loop". As soon as that happens, it starts to shift back to the "present", so, the longer you wait to go through the exterior's door, the closer and closer the exterior gets to the present, this is why each encounter is shorter than the last. If they had waited a bit longer, the exterior would have shifted all the way back to the present, returning the "Time Loop" to a "Space Loop". 5th, The reason the Doctor was able to know which lever to push is the same reason why Amy, and then Amy and Rory knew what to say when they went through. This phenomenon is known as a "Temporal Causality Loop". The Doctor hears his future self say "The Wibbly Lever", so he knows to say that when he goes through the exterior. Same reason Amy knew what to say when she went through, she repeated what she heard herself say. A "Temporal Causality Loop" is a way of getting information without it ever really coming from anywhere. The Doctor saying "The Wibbly Lever" is both the cause and effect for itself. I hope this cleared a few things up
I love this explanation! It's so detailed! You sir, are why people understand what is happening. (Now exactly where did he get this information? Because I told myself to write this comment...)
I also forgot to mention, wouldn't the Doctor telling himself that the wibbly lever is the right one then going back to tell himself that it's the wibbly lever be an example of "The Bootstrap Paradox"?
Yeah you all talking about this and that all I am stuck on is thinking of Amy Pond hooking up with herself... Yeah I would have given her the license also.
@@trickytreyperfected1482 It's fiction; the untested driver would only get into a crash if the plot demanded it. Give her the license and let Amy hook up with herself, ya buzzkill.
They were not in an established line of events until both were happening at the same time. You know what the Doctor always says; Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey. Something similar happened when the tenth met the fifth. It's on here too, look it up.
I had a dream once where the Doctor was explaining Time/Space/gravity/frequency to me in relation to galactic co-ordinates and it looked kind of like this (but with the birthing of stars in 7D....) Did you have the same dream?
Nah, I wasn't high. But I had just finished a month long Who marathon and was in the middle of a book about astral travel and lucid dreaming. That might have had something to do with it.
+CrazyJoshCravy 's explanation was correct, except that he forgot to include that this whole minisode happened in all dimensions/pocket universes, so all possibilities (even the one where there are two Amy Ponds forever) happen. The Doctor gets to try out every single lever in the TARDIS until he finally gets the wibbley lever right. He then echoes the wibbley lever across the other dimensions left.
Bootstrap paradox. The Doctor wouldn't have gotten the idea to release the tardis if amy didn't give herself the words necessary in order to trip the Doctor's mind towards the right idea to release the tardis...
For that matter, he wouldn't have known to pull the wibbly lever if his future self hadn't told him which lever to pull, and his future self only knew because he heard it from his future future self etc.
Because by mentally establishing that after he finds out which lever he need he will to back to tell himself. By deciding this a future version of him cones through the time gap and let's him know, he then completes the loop by entering the gap door so he won't cause a paradox.
There's just one thing left I don't understand: Where and when, exactly, is the TARDIS when it crashes into the inside of itself? Did it sort of fall out of normal spacetime and bud off into its own little Klein-bottle universe?
If you put the TARDIS exterior in front of the interior's entrance, would you enter the control room, or would you end up in a tiny space between the entrances?
and the TARDIS stopped flight and materialized inside its self before going into conceptional space so it does make sense if Rory hadn't dropped the thermal thingy than they would have indeed entered conceptional space.
I know, but he wouldnt have found out from the future one of him if he didnt know what to say, he would have to know what lever to say to himself to deal with it but he wouldnt be able to if he wasnt told by his future version but the future version wouldnt know... Sorry if it's hard to understand
So The Doctor slamming the door slowed down the interior or sent the inside of the exterior into the future or both (i guess) and with seconds to spare before the interiors timeline caught up to be parallel with the exterior as the doctor sees himself and then staight away the doctor enters the Tardis, they wouldnt really have died...all would happened was the exterior and interior would have reset into the present and he would have to have slammed the door again to have another shot...or it could have drifted past the present into the past and then...woah...
Would be good if this concept was actually used in an episode but the temporal distance of the 2 tardis wouldnt be less than minutes...more like hundreds of years and only one tardis in another not inside each other as The Master had done, maybe do this so The Doctor could literally step outside in The Tardis to The Tardis and recruit his distant past or future self to a grand scheme just like he saved Gallifrey
@@Antifag1977i kind of like that idea of the future regenerations remembers where they used to be there fore it avoids contact because they don't remember they being in contact with their future self kind of live river song and queen of England when the 10th 1st met the queen she already knew who he was or how river already knew who the 10th was because she had married the 11th
Sorry, but if you put the internet explorer twice on this video one at 4:30 and the other one 4:32 you can see a little mistake, first you see Rory pushing Amy in the Tardis and then holding the Tardis door. Oh, Rory! He could have made them get stuck with two Amys and two Rorys forever!
last time I check if the doctor interacted with himself the tardis would have pick up a paradox and lunch him half way arcross the control room and destroy the hull of the tardis down to like 22% almost killing anyone near the consul also an easiest way possible Wibbly friggin Wobbly Friggen Timey friggen Wim
So at the end the doctor essentially guessed a lever and only in the timeline where he survived was he able to travel back and tell himself which was the right one
Making it so all the other possible levers he could have chosen were no longer possible
Man
I love time travel
Not necessarily, it's the Bootstrap paradox ("Google it" - 12). Knowledge of which lever it was came from nowhere, it has no beginning or end.
This Bootstrap should not have happened unless no Doctor came through the first time and he guessed right anyway. And even then, you probably still have to subscribe to Many Worlds theory for that to work, which the show... Oh yeah, actually it does xD
So meanwhile in at least as many parallel universes as the TARDIS has levers, causality was destoyed.
:)
@@RandomNameLastName811 seems pretty spot on to me. Its like the box and a bomb test, a variation of the schrodinger's cat thought experiment, you sit in a sealed box with a bomb that has a 50% chance to explode every second. The bomb keeps not exploding because for you to experience it not exploding you have to be alive. Meanwhile, every second an alternate reality where you die is generated, with offshoots generated for every world where you live, and presumably and minute changes you made to the setup, but still you are experiencing the lucky version where you live cuz otherwise you would be dead. In this case, in every version that the doctor could survive by using a lever, the doctor tried some combination of levers, and its only the single reality that resulted in the doctor surviving that was allowed to go back and tell himself how to survive
There are (at least) two ways of looking at time travel, one is where timelines are still being drawn, meaning that you can go back and change something in the past, which then changes the entire future from that point on (this is the main one used in Doctor Who) and the other way, where timelines are fixed and if someone goes back in time to change something then nothing happens to the future as it has already happened. For example, you go back into your past to give yourself a pen. You have always remembered yourself giving you this pen. This way is used in Harry Potter. So the way you view time travel all depends on your own personal perspective.
@@safebox36 It didn't really came from nowhere. Every other possible choice would've destroyed the TARDIS in both space and time, so all possible choices collapsed into the only one where the Doctor guessed right. So it's sorta like a quantum waveform collapse. The Doctor just had to wait for his surviving future self to pop out with the answer.
you made a video of the scene from the perspective of the Interior and Exterior of the TARDIS, How about one showing the perspective of above and below the glass floor.
+John Lawson Hardy har har
John Lawson Dude, that would probably let us see Amy Pond's panties.
Christian Something Such Or better, we'd see Uranus.
It took my three minutes to figure this joke out because that's not how your pronounce Uranus.
Markel1970A Gamez NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!
Imagine a more complicated one which just has infinity of the interiors and exteriors. That would be an illusion and a half.
For those of you who found this too confusing and couldn't figure out some things (I don't blame you)
1st, The interior is in another dimension, there for, it is completely possible for the exterior to go inside the interior.
2nd, The exterior is probably in a fragile state after going in side itself, because of that, the doctor slamming the door pushed the exterior about a minute into the future.
3rd, The exterior may be in a fragile state, but it's still the strong TARDIS, that's why it took a few seconds for it to shift to the future.
4th, After the Doctor slams the door, the exterior shifts about a minute into the future. If you pay attention, you'll see the amount of time Amy and Rory spend in the TARDIS with themselves is noticeably shorter than the amount of time Amy spent in the TARDIS with herself, as well, the Doctor spends even less time with himself, only a few seconds. This is because the TARDIS is more or less "intelligent", as soon as the Doctor slams the door, the exterior shifts about a minute into the future, changing the "Space Loop" into a "Time Loop". As soon as that happens, it starts to shift back to the "present", so, the longer you wait to go through the exterior's door, the closer and closer the exterior gets to the present, this is why each encounter is shorter than the last. If they had waited a bit longer, the exterior would have shifted all the way back to the present, returning the "Time Loop" to a "Space Loop".
5th, The reason the Doctor was able to know which lever to push is the same reason why Amy, and then Amy and Rory knew what to say when they went through. This phenomenon is known as a "Temporal Causality Loop". The Doctor hears his future self say "The Wibbly Lever", so he knows to say that when he goes through the exterior. Same reason Amy knew what to say when she went through, she repeated what she heard herself say. A "Temporal Causality Loop" is a way of getting information without it ever really coming from anywhere. The Doctor saying "The Wibbly Lever" is both the cause and effect for itself.
I hope this cleared a few things up
Are you an actual time Lord?
wow i actually understood it all for once
Thaaaaaank youuuuuuu
I love this explanation! It's so detailed! You sir, are why people understand what is happening. (Now exactly where did he get this information? Because I told myself to write this comment...)
I also forgot to mention, wouldn't the Doctor telling himself that the wibbly lever is the right one then going back to tell himself that it's the wibbly lever be an example of "The Bootstrap Paradox"?
I got chills at 5:08. The side by side view finally made sense at that point.
Do an exterior shot of the Titanic crashing into the Tardis.
Ha.
its the purple man from fnaf!
Shut up, FNAF fan. We're sick of the fanbase.
Mark P. BURN HIM!!!
BURN HIM!!!
Whoa! I had to watch this about four times and then seeing the interior an exterior simultaneously actually made sense, it's mind blowing!
Yeah you all talking about this and that all I am stuck on is thinking of Amy Pond hooking up with herself... Yeah I would have given her the license also.
It's a good thing you aren't giving them out then. I'd rather not have an untested driver on the road just because of a horny examiner.
@@trickytreyperfected1482 It's fiction; the untested driver would only get into a crash if the plot demanded it. Give her the license and let Amy hook up with herself, ya buzzkill.
I'd like to think that the doctor slamming the door is what caused the exterior of the tardis to drift forwards in time.
I was thinking the exact same thing that Rory was thinking
"Pond, put some trousers on." :)
Well, he learns not to repeat mistakes.
You put some trousers on
Best line
I can’t find that episode on Netflix or bbc
They were not in an established line of events until both were happening at the same time. You know what the Doctor always says; Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey.
Something similar happened when the tenth met the fifth. It's on here too, look it up.
THE WIBBLY LEVER!
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stufff
You're*
And that'so only roleplay.
Excellent video editing! This is much more fun to watch than a regular run with just one screen! Thought just like a true Whovian would.
I had a dream once where the Doctor was explaining Time/Space/gravity/frequency to me in relation to galactic co-ordinates and it looked kind of like this (but with the birthing of stars in 7D....)
Did you have the same dream?
haha were you high at the time? sounds pretty awesome anyway
Nah, I wasn't high. But I had just finished a month long Who marathon and was in the middle of a book about astral travel and lucid dreaming. That might have had something to do with it.
Riah Maca now he explained time
5:06 the TIMING ❤
+CrazyJoshCravy 's explanation was correct, except that he forgot to include that this whole minisode happened in all dimensions/pocket universes, so all possibilities (even the one where there are two Amy Ponds forever) happen. The Doctor gets to try out every single lever in the TARDIS until he finally gets the wibbley lever right. He then echoes the wibbley lever across the other dimensions left.
This is an awesome theory! Now explain to me what happens in the universe with TWO Amy Ponds ;)
@@undeathbysnipe2986 The universe implodes.
Thing is with the time loop, they've all been doing this forever
And after this River was conceived
rory's gone wibbly
Bootstrap paradox. The Doctor wouldn't have gotten the idea to release the tardis if amy didn't give herself the words necessary in order to trip the Doctor's mind towards the right idea to release the tardis...
Who composed the 8th symphony of Beethoven?
FlorpGurk III
For that matter, he wouldn't have known to pull the wibbly lever if his future self hadn't told him which lever to pull, and his future self only knew because he heard it from his future future self etc.
Magney your wrong. The doctor guesses a lever and in the timeline where the doctor survives he travels back in time to tell his past self.
They could have just turned on the scanner and seen what was happening in the Exterior.
Only Moffat could do this. Love it
Блестяще! Так должно быть изначально в самом сериале! Это же гениально!
Because by mentally establishing that after he finds out which lever he need he will to back to tell himself. By deciding this a future version of him cones through the time gap and let's him know, he then completes the loop by entering the gap door so he won't cause a paradox.
There's just one thing left I don't understand: Where and when, exactly, is the TARDIS when it crashes into the inside of itself? Did it sort of fall out of normal spacetime and bud off into its own little Klein-bottle universe?
Pretty much, yeah
magney doesn't the tardis phase between two dimensions when materialising and dematerialisig it may be caught in between the two dimensions.
This made me even more confused 😂
First time I've seen this one. "Brilliant, absolutely brilliant". :-)
If you put the TARDIS exterior in front of the interior's entrance, would you enter the control room, or would you end up in a tiny space between the entrances?
That is certainly timey whimey
I think you mean spacey wacey. ;)
Nina Appasamy I've no idea where did you get that from.
Now I understand Space & Time. Thanks to this video. Thank you for making this video.
damn moffat really can’t get over his crush on karen gillan
I feel smart after reading how many people did not understand this, I understood it perfectly, I love pond, she's awesome,
How can anyone not ADORE Amy Pond?
and the TARDIS stopped flight and materialized inside its self before going into conceptional space so it does make sense if Rory hadn't dropped the thermal thingy than they would have indeed entered conceptional space.
lol thanks
I'm not sure if this just made it clearer or less less clear 0.o Nicely montaged, though.
At 5:42 he sounds a little like Rowan Atkinson!
Good! I've tried to get this together in my thick head and now you did this vid to make it perfectly clear to me! =D Awesome!
I know, but he wouldnt have found out from the future one of him if he didnt know what to say, he would have to know what lever to say to himself to deal with it but he wouldnt be able to if he wasnt told by his future version but the future version wouldnt know... Sorry if it's hard to understand
might i ask what the music at 5.33 is. The boomy version of I am the doctor
How did i get all of that
Unfortunately, I don't know. I didn't modify the audio.
Only version of space/time I can find, i guess it'll do...
My fucken head hurts........one of the many reasons I love being a whovian
To all who want an explanation of this string of events.
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey. You're welcome.
That was the coolest clip I ever watched
Love it. This makes so much sense now.
hihihi love to see Emy flirting with herself hihihi 🥰😍
Rory is awesome
What would happen if past Pond went straight into the Tardis after entering the Tardis?
What tune is the Doctor whistling at the start? I recognise it but can't place it
this was bonkers loved it
again, he didn't say they were traveling through conceptional sapce, he said entering, and then Rory looks up Amy's skirt blah blah you know the rest
the wibbly lever!!!!!
Welcome to doctor who
IT'S A PARADOX THEY IS NO ANSWER
thank you
Amazing.
fantastic!
made my head ache...
I fricken love Rory 🤣
So The Doctor slamming the door slowed down the interior or sent the inside of the exterior into the future or both (i guess) and with seconds to spare before the interiors timeline caught up to be parallel with the exterior as the doctor sees himself and then staight away the doctor enters the Tardis, they wouldnt really have died...all would happened was the exterior and interior would have reset into the present and he would have to have slammed the door again to have another shot...or it could have drifted past the present into the past and then...woah...
Would be good if this concept was actually used in an episode but the temporal distance of the 2 tardis wouldnt be less than minutes...more like hundreds of years and only one tardis in another not inside each other as The Master had done, maybe do this so The Doctor could literally step outside in The Tardis to The Tardis and recruit his distant past or future self to a grand scheme just like he saved Gallifrey
this is so cool in a vr headset
wait does this theoretically mean that the 11th doctor is still around and stuff?
Seeing as how they travel through time ALL of them are still around in a sense.
@@Antifag1977 AMY AND RORY NEVER DIED! :D
@@Antifag1977i kind of like that idea of the future regenerations remembers where they used to be there fore it avoids contact because they don't remember they being in contact with their future self kind of live river song and queen of England when the 10th 1st met the queen she already knew who he was or how river already knew who the 10th was because she had married the 11th
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!
The Banana part is hilarious
Ive seen this and the actual video SO MANY TIMES and i STILL DONT GET IT
A big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
how about the one bbc posted?
wobbly wobbly timey wimey tardis!
That one didn't show up in the results...
This was hillarious!!
You sir, rock
So what happened is the same thing that happened in the Children in Need with 5th and 10th Doctor? Or am I missing something?
Here, the TARDIS landed inside itself. In 'Time Crash', the 5th and 10th Doctor's TARDISes merged into one.
Gian Andrei Fabia aka father and son's tardises merge into 1
David Caldwell because the actor of the 5th Doctor's daughter married David Tennant ;D
Isidro Diaz Cotto *Step father, if you mean actor, Same man, if you mean charector
Father
Ehy!!!! Potreste mettere anche i sottotitoli in italiano? Perfavore.... Grazie :-D
Sorry, but if you put the internet explorer twice on this video one at 4:30 and the other one 4:32 you can see a little mistake, first you see Rory pushing Amy in the Tardis and then holding the Tardis door. Oh, Rory! He could have made them get stuck with two Amys and two Rorys forever!
When did that happen?
Do you see the timestamps?
My head hurts.
okay that was very confusing. but i love it
How would he know to say ''the wibbly lever''?
Confusing but when you get it its awsome
Which episode is this
Idk
Tardis-ception
Oh, that's Brilliant
oh no its all timey wimey o.o
This makes it far more confusing.
This is good
After all. We wouldn't want to see her ... nebula... would we?
terribly sorry
Lol
very clever
the wibbly lever
the thin white dunk THE WIBBLY LEVER!
technically there would be infinite videos
These are confusing times
Season & Episode?
Series 6 technically. It's not a full episode, you won't find it on streaming sites.
Legend has it that it's on this site
Rory's the best.
Yeah!
this hurts my head
ROOOOOOORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
this is so cool! :D
last time I check if the doctor interacted with himself the tardis would have pick up a paradox and lunch him half way arcross the control room and destroy the hull of the tardis down to like 22% almost killing anyone near the consul also an easiest way possible
Wibbly friggin Wobbly Friggen Timey friggen Wim
OH RORY! XD best thing ever