I missed this back in the day. Excellent! They were all so absolutely brilliant!! I want an emoji with the Doctors hand coming out of the T.A.R.D.I.S. in a thumbs up position! (imagine that here)
If only the Doctor had said, "There's those odd floating letters again" when the credits repeated. "I'll have to remember to fix that." F**k the fourth wall.
Theoretically seeing letters in the time vortex might be normal cuz if it’s a tunnel and your moving through it you might see images from different time periods so letters might be there too
skirts. plural. while I haven't see all her wardrove, I have seen her wearing another skirt that could had caused causality to implode and self-destroy.
Basically any timeline in which he doesn't select the right input would result in the TARDIS blowing up and preventing him from going back in time to tell himself the right choice. So because time travel makes yourself both the cause and effect, he physically has to choose the right option.
@@Xeraghusta Pretty brilliant! So the bootstrap paradox was caused by a natural collapse of all the quantum states of events to achieve equilibrium and the Doctor didn't really pull a Bill & Ted's manipulation of time by premeditated choice, he just waited for everything to fall into place. Now that I think about it that solves the bootstrap paradox in all cases!
Me when I describe the show to anyone: "This is where it gets complicated. There's this alien guy who looks like a human, and he's called the Doctor-yes, that's his name-and he lives in a time machine that looks like a 1960s British phone booth, and it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside..." etc etc lol. I'd probably have to repeat that initial line a few times!
Take off maybe, but not land. As the Fourth Doc saw the old girl arrive in Revenge of the Cybermen and maybe in Shada and Full Circle and the Fifth Doc saw the TARDIS have a bit of bother landing in The Visitation.
Amy and Rory. Then Ace. I have only seen Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks and (part of) survival, but from what I have seen and what I hear from my mum. Ace was amazing.
@@GripTheWolf I will always miss Lucie. He's the best companion 8th would ever have. His mind almost completely gone after that, if it weren't for Liv and Helen we probably would have an even darker War Doctor.
Amy: Its my fault Doctor: Of course it wasnt your fault Rory: Its kinda her fault Doctor:How could it be her fault??!! Amy:Because it was my skirt, my husband and your glass floor. Pretty much the point were i couldnt hold it.
11th did with the "Flesh" self. And his predecessor did with Meta-crysis 10. Also 9 didn't meet in the proper sense, but saw his own back from afar in the Father's Day episode.
@@Croftice1 There's also another short like this where there's multiple Rivers coming in from multiple points in time, and then THE DOCTOR comes in after her saying "Wrong TARDIS, I'm out back." and then River mentions Darillium and the two Doctors share a sad look and they briefly mention the library.
Theory: this was the kind of paradox that ran an infinite amount of wrong scenarios until it was corrected and set back to normal actuality also erasing any memory of it going wrong and coming to the right way only and repeating throughout every loop. It couldn't be stuck there for an eternity, simply put, if there was a way in, there's a way out, even if it wasn't the same way.
Just with this scene, you can understand that the TARDIS is actually never where and when she is. Let me explain. In this scene, the TARDIS is in the interior of herself. In some other episodes, she can travel through dimensions. So the idea that the blue box is a portal and the interior a remote control is not stupid. It would explain why it's difficult for the TARDIS to travel through dimensions. The interior is into a dimension, and if you want to exit, you pass through a portal, wich is the police box (basically the dimension has its own time-line)... If writers thought it like this, they are fucking genius.
So the TARDIS interior is a fishing rod, the hook is the exterior, the line is the link between them and the river it plops into is time and space? Neat.
it's a bag of holding. The TARDIS is itself a pocket dimension, so by putting another TARDIS (bag of holding) inside it creates a dimensional vortex utterly destroying the universe and trapping all things still "alive" in a separate pocket dimension that can never be escaped.
neomp5 I think my favorite edit of this mini-episode pair was the one where it was done in split screen with the left half of the screen being the standard episode and the right half being the "exterior view," which sped up or slowed down to sync up with the time-shifting shenanigans in the "Time" half.
Showing the loops ruins the episode for me as it makes no sense. The only way it makes sense to show the loops would be if we (the camera) were going back in time with the characters through the doors. But if that were the case, the camera angles would be all different the second time round.
3:30. The Doctor: Worse than a time loop is a space loop. Nothing can enter or leave the TARDIS ever again. Amy: Alright, kids. This is where things get complicated.
This is actually quite a clever edit, nicely done! At first, when Amy did the first 'loop', I thought you were going to just keep replaying that part over and over, but I'm glad to see I was mistaken xD
Just because the Doctor told his past self to pull the wibbly lever, doesn't mean he was right. The Doctor took his future self's advice, pulled the wibbly lever, then immediately ran into the police box to pass on that advice without verifying its success. For all he knew, the wibbly lever could have imploded the TARDIS and killed everybody right after he disappeared into the police box.
@@luisstarcraft But the point is, if in every case he goes through without varifying, he would just pull the wibbly lever and fail every time. As he goes back before they all die each time, this would leave them stuck in a loop. On the flip side, if he waited to see it was the right lever, the exterior would dematerialise and he wouldn't even be able to pass on the message...
This isn't a bootstrap paradox. If he uses the wrong lever, they die instantly, so the only doctor that could travel back is the one that picked the right lever, so the right lever must always be pulled. Since there is exactly one possible timeline, there is no paradox. If you want to be nerdy, "all other quantum waveforms collapsed before they could exist, leaving only the timeline where he said the correct lever" (a fixed point). Now if he took a lever back with him, used that to fix the problem, and took the same lever back again, then you'd have a bootstrap paradox of "who made the lever?"
@@kokirij0167 It wasn't necessary to find the right lever. Choice can only exist where there is more than one option. Edit: It's essentially the doctor playing Russian Roulette where every barrel of the gun (Tardis), except one, is loaded with a bullet. He decides to pull the trigger while he can see the future version of himself (the unexploded Tardis) sitting in the corner, not dead. He doesn't need to figure out how to get the right barrel lined up, because he can see it already happened. The future Doctor effectively got out of the Tardis and said, "Pull the trigger", but the fact that the Tardis hadn't already exploded, meant that The Doctor was always going to pull the right lever.
Brian Valenti But again, who was the first Doctor to pick a switch without being told? Because the loop is infinite in both directions-a Doctor always comes in through the door to replace the other, who exits into the next TARDIS. If the loop goes infinitely in both directions, then every Doctor would be able to see the unexploded TARDIS in the corner and would be waiting for another Doctor to come in and tell him what lever to pull. And as such, every Doctor will have been told by a previous Doctor which switch to pull without ever having made the choice on his own. There is no “first” or the loop is broken which is impossible. Bootstrap paradox.
@@mephostopheles3752 Pick a switch? There isn't a decision to be made, as only the correct switch could ever be pulled. You have 1 apple. You will eat an apple. How do you choose which apple to eat, when you from the futures shows up, points to your apple and says "eat that one!" If there were 2 switches he could have pulled to survive, then there would have been a decision to be made and that would be a bootstrap paradox.
@@gl1346 it’s her husband, I don’t think she minds in the least……probably likes it. As long as Rory learned to admire his wife while holdimg TARDIS cables that can trap the crew in a space loop…..
Ah, all you humans who don't understand, you're all so linear. See, you have to look at it from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint. It's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
Gordon Ramsay's Lamb Sauce Finder Actually now that I've seen it, this isn't the first time something like this has happened. *Spoiler* _________________ Logopolis
I never understood why they never kept it in one episode, also, best name for episode ever XD Seriously though this is the best special since time crash
Producer: let’s make a mini episode what does it need. The doctor: confusion and understanding beyond normal needs Rory: lunacy without end Amy: L E G S. Just L E G S Time and space situation so impossible you could write: yes and no (according to who logic) And lastly The wibily wobiliy lever, never leave home with out it
Goddesses, this is brilliant. Watching it like this made everything so much clearer. Empirically, I knew that time would repeat from the perspective of the one who stepped inside the TARDIS but this solidified it. Fantastic!
Ya know I'm deep in the Tom Baker era now and had a blast going through the Pertwee era, but, this one short reminds me how damn good the Matt Smith era was. I feel it's the best era ever in Who history, Hope you read this one day Mr. Moffatt
Amy's question is answered in Good Night; she was curious about remembering both the current timeline and the previous one altered by the cracks. His answer was to stopping thinking about and move on.
1:50 "It was this skirt-" *TARDIS stops* "What was that?" "RORY, DID YOU DROP A THERMO COUPLING?" "Sorry." "HOW DID YOU DO THAT? I TOLD YOU DON'T DROP THEM. I SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED NOT DROPPING THEM." "It was my fault" "Of course it wasn't your fault." "It kind of was her fault." "How can it be her fault?" "Because it was my skirt, my husband and your glass floor." *11 looking confused and looks down* "EEEUGH, RORY!" "Sorry."
Death is definitive. There is no coming back, so if he blowed countless of his future selves (which after the first one would be impossible, since he would be dead), then ... actually never mind, nothing after the parenthesis would make sense. He (or rather they all) would be dead, that's really it.
2, 7, and 11. what's important about those? well, they're all primes, and their actors were patrick troughton, sylvester mccoy, and matt smith. hm. patrick has 16 letters in his name, sylvester has 14, and matt has 9. 2 has 2 more than 7, and 7 has 5 more than 11. 16 also has 7 more than 11. so 5 is also prime as well, and peter davison has 12 letters in his name, 4 less than 2, 2 less than 7, and 3 more than 11. 5 is also 2 less than 7. all other numbers besides the primes were squares, 4 and 9. tom baker has 8 letters in his name, 8 less than 2, 6 less than 7, 1 less than 11, and 4 less than 5. the new numbers from that are 8, 6, and 1, 8 and 6 are both divisible by 2. they're also divisible by 4 and 3, respectively. 11-1 is 10, and christopher eccleston has 20 letters in his name, 4 more than 2, 6 more than 7, 11 more than 11, 8 more than 5, 12 more than 4. 12-4=8. paul mcgann has 10 letters in his name, 2 less than 10's 12. 10 has the same number of letters in his name as 5, which is 10 divided by 2, which is mcgann's difference with 10's. capaldi has 12 letters in his name, the same as his doctor number, the same as 10 and 5, and is 10+5-3. in all of this, if the sum of all the numbers here is divisible by 3, doctor who is the illuminati. 16+14+9+2+2+7+7+5+11+16+7+11+5+12+4+2+2+7+3+11+5+2+7+4+9+8+8+2+6+7+1+11+4+5+8+6+1+8+6+2+4+3+11+1+10+20+4+2+6+7+11+11+8+5+12+4+12+4+8+10+2+10+12+10+5+10+2+10+12+10+5+3=507, which divides by 3 evenly into 169. also, numbers 1-12 added together is 78, which, when divided by 3, goes evenly into 26. if you add 26 to 169 you get 195, which divides by 3 evenly into 65, which when divided by 5, is 13, the number of different bodies the doctor has had so far. illuminati confirmed.
Internet Rule #34: If it exists, there is porn of it. Someone coincides with internet rule #63: There is an alternate reality in which you are the opposite gender (M->F or F->M)
If the temporal Causality loop didn't work, the Doctor wouldn't have seen himself come back, he would have panicked and pressed the wrong lever, causing their immediate death, stopping the Doctor from ever coming back in time to warn himself to not pull that lever.
@@jamiehudson2747 The fact that you cringe at one of your old comments means that you have improved, and oh boy did I cringe at this comment. Idk what I was thinking 4 years ago lol
hah XD thats a bizzar thought LOL xD. The only time where a Tardis under goes something that involves rebooting itself X3 and to be honest I dont blame the 11th doctor for initiating a reset/reboot of his tardis just to prevent the tardis from re materalizing inside itself again XD.
It's a series of episodes from the anime series, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya", where the same episode is played eight times in a row, the only thing different about each of them is the characters' clothing and the eight one where the loop breaks.
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"It was this skirt"
*Rory instantly drops thermo couplings*
Welp that's marriage for you.
Lol 😂
Oh Rory
Glass floors are wonderful
God damnit rory
😂
"This is how it all ends. Pond flirting with herself. True love at last. Oh, sorry Rory."
"Absolutely no problem to me."
I missed this back in the day. Excellent! They were all so absolutely brilliant!!
I want an emoji with the Doctors hand coming out of the T.A.R.D.I.S. in a thumbs up position! (imagine that here)
Rory over here thinking, "Hey, as long as I get to watch"
Me when thinking of my fiance...
@@oPHILOSORAPTORo 🤤😍😍🤤
Jack Harkness: I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now
"This is how it all ends. Pond flirting with herself. True love at last."
"not with a bang, a whisper"
Sounds like what the Doctor told Jack; "only person you'd be happy with."
"Sorry Rory."
"No problem at all."
@@neodecade15 yeah, Rory's *definitely* thinking "Jackpot. A threesome with my wife, and my wife."
@@shadowhunter240 no, no, it'd definitely go with a bang...
"Doctor, have you ever seen Amy drive?"
"No?!"
"Neither did her driving examiner..."
Max Levine :D
There was an unexpected house
Amy is a terrible driver
@@jareththegoblinking3191 that explains the end of Amy's Choice then...
Jedi Spartan 38 LMAO
imagine a banana.. or anything curved... actually don't, 'cause it's not curved or like a banana.. FORGET THE BANANA!
That's very much my train of thought.
But bananas are good. =(
EmmeKira Good source of potassium
EmmeKira FORGET THE PENIS!
Sometimes I wonder why he just uses something that has nothing to do with it for a example and then realises it has nothing to do with it.
If only the Doctor had said, "There's those odd floating letters again" when the credits repeated. "I'll have to remember to fix that."
F**k the fourth wall.
..
Lmao I wish
“Floating letters? Where?”
“Oh don’t mind me I’m just talking to myself”
but like, it'd be a chill comment, it would take you a while to realize what he meant by that
Theoretically seeing letters in the time vortex might be normal cuz if it’s a tunnel and your moving through it you might see images from different time periods so letters might be there too
Amy’s skirt is possibly the most OP weapon in the universe, it almost caused a hole in causality by itself
Well... Not the skirt, exactly, per say...
well its more like the dropped thermocouplings that caused that but sure..
skirts. plural.
while I haven't see all her wardrove, I have seen her wearing another skirt that could had caused causality to implode and self-destroy.
tbh one hole almost made the end of reality....
Real
I would've loved if a panicked Doctor rushed in yelling "NOT THE WIBBLY LEVER, NOT THE WIBBLY LEVER!"
He cant they have died in another
Basically any timeline in which he doesn't select the right input would result in the TARDIS blowing up and preventing him from going back in time to tell himself the right choice. So because time travel makes yourself both the cause and effect, he physically has to choose the right option.
@@Xeraghusta except if that’s part of the timeline - he already saw himself running in yelling that
Maybe Tennant? 🤔
@@Xeraghusta Pretty brilliant! So the bootstrap paradox was caused by a natural collapse of all the quantum states of events to achieve equilibrium and the Doctor didn't really pull a Bill & Ted's manipulation of time by premeditated choice, he just waited for everything to fall into place. Now that I think about it that solves the bootstrap paradox in all cases!
The words "This is where it gets complicated" pretty much describes a lot of Doctor Who
At least Moffat's _Doctor Who._ He once said that writing "complicated" was his default setting.
New guy watching doctor who: so when it get simple?
A doctor who fan: ha ha ha ha ha no
Me when I describe the show to anyone:
"This is where it gets complicated. There's this alien guy who looks like a human, and he's called the Doctor-yes, that's his name-and he lives in a time machine that looks like a 1960s British phone booth, and it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside..." etc etc lol. I'd probably have to repeat that initial line a few times!
"Dear god that woman is made of legs. That's the most of legs on any living human" - Clara Oswald
u can't blame Rory :p
Bacbi is that guy that plays rorhy the same guy that plays captain rip hunter from dcs legends of tomorrow?
Seth Fletcher yes
Bacbi no one can blame Rory. ...
SlavenSM that man is MADE of nose
@@daisy-m766 the doctor: the chin
Rory: the nose
Amy: the legs
It's like someone set out with the express goal of writing the single most sexually-charged episode of Doctor Who _ever._
Moffat does like moments with two Amys.
Or would that be Amies?
DoctorWhoFanBadWolf what if it wasnt amies what if it was armies 😎
Well that's Steve Moffat in a memesical nutshell for you.
AND IT WORKS!!!
then a random doctor pops in "Dormammu, I've come to bargain!"
Angel Gonzalez *Dormammu
Ryan Callaghan fixed it, thx
Its fine man ahah :)
Spoilers.
ItsPillow BR *says river*
I just realized that this is one of the only times the Doctor has ever seen the TARDIS take off from the outside.
Take off maybe, but not land. As the Fourth Doc saw the old girl arrive in Revenge of the Cybermen and maybe in Shada and Full Circle and the Fifth Doc saw the TARDIS have a bit of bother landing in The Visitation.
I had much the same thought when the Master stole her in Utopia.
Well … technically he’s on the inside of the tardis
The ninth Doctor saw it take off when he sent Rose into the past in it.
@@UnclePengy Hence "one of the only".
I don't think I'll miss any companion as much as I miss Amy and Rory.
KenzaXI AMV's for me Clara comes in a close second, but Amy and Rory will always be my favourite.
Same I love Amy and Rory 🥲💜
Amy and Rory. Then Ace. I have only seen Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks and (part of) survival, but from what I have seen and what I hear from my mum. Ace was amazing.
For me, it's a tie between Lucie and Donna
@@GripTheWolf I will always miss Lucie. He's the best companion 8th would ever have. His mind almost completely gone after that, if it weren't for Liv and Helen we probably would have an even darker War Doctor.
Amy: Its my fault
Doctor: Of course it wasnt your fault
Rory: Its kinda her fault
Doctor:How could it be her fault??!!
Amy:Because it was my skirt, my husband and your glass floor.
Pretty much the point were i couldnt hold it.
I died on that part
+Darth Ackbar same
i dont get it
someone needs a brain
Dont worry I understand now
it's a shame the doctor doesn't meet himself (his current generation meets current generation) more often. It's always entertaining
11th did with the "Flesh" self. And his predecessor did with Meta-crysis 10. Also 9 didn't meet in the proper sense, but saw his own back from afar in the Father's Day episode.
@@Croftice1 There's also another short like this where there's multiple Rivers coming in from multiple points in time, and then THE DOCTOR comes in after her saying "Wrong TARDIS, I'm out back." and then River mentions Darillium and the two Doctors share a sad look and they briefly mention the library.
Meeting yourself can be a narcissistic experience.
Excellent point, Scripture-Man!
The rebel flesh watch it
"My husband, my skirt and your glass floor."
"Oh, *RORY!!*"
2 Amys..Roy thinks about it. .
@@tonystephenson4842 and gets slapped
@@tranz2deep “Sorry ;)”
@@tonystephenson4842 who is roy
Theory: this was the kind of paradox that ran an infinite amount of wrong scenarios until it was corrected and set back to normal actuality also erasing any memory of it going wrong and coming to the right way only and repeating throughout every loop. It couldn't be stuck there for an eternity, simply put, if there was a way in, there's a way out, even if it wasn't the same way.
Two Rory's = extra confusion
Two Amy's = extra spice
Two Doctors = extra awesomeness
@Flash Guy Extra Geronimo
And.. extra wibbly lever
Two amy's interesting.
To Rory? Twice the fun~
What is up with me today...
and forget the Banana you don't want the Banana🤣
Two Rory's - i don't understand
Two Amy's - hi~
Two Doctors - THE WIBBLY LEAVER!
3:12 pull to open, lol. start of confusion?
Sutekh must’ve been mad confused
It's bigger on the inside?
Just with this scene, you can understand that the TARDIS is actually never where and when she is. Let me explain. In this scene, the TARDIS is in the interior of herself. In some other episodes, she can travel through dimensions. So the idea that the blue box is a portal and the interior a remote control is not stupid. It would explain why it's difficult for the TARDIS to travel through dimensions. The interior is into a dimension, and if you want to exit, you pass through a portal, wich is the police box (basically the dimension has its own time-line)... If writers thought it like this, they are fucking genius.
So the TARDIS interior is a fishing rod, the hook is the exterior, the line is the link between them and the river it plops into is time and space?
Neat.
They did. In the first episode with Rory on the TARDIS he confirmed "It's another dimension."
nice!
it's a bag of holding. The TARDIS is itself a pocket dimension, so by putting another TARDIS (bag of holding) inside it creates a dimensional vortex utterly destroying the universe and trapping all things still "alive" in a separate pocket dimension that can never be escaped.
Which also explains how it’s bigger on the inside and the Outside Exterior can morph into anything
9 year old me watching this:
“*i am confusion*”
What's so confusing about all that lol? A Bootstrap paradox is literally the easiest time-travel paradox to understand...
ШКОЛЬНИК-ЛЕПРЕКОН ... 9 year old
@@luging2051 I remember being 8 and understanding the plot perfectly, so it's not an excuse
@@lepimond4605 cool some people are smarter than others theres no excuse to be a dickhead about it...
@@langstonbowels That's not what I meant wtf...
"The wibbly levah!"
*Coughs as the 10th Doctor comes in, fixing his tie and puts up a finger.* "Actually, It's Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.."
...its weird that I can actually see that happening in the show...
@@rougedragonwhiteflame3990 It’s not weird. Not at all
Oops im wearing sand shoes!
*War Doctor enters* Timey wimey? Timey wimey?!
@@Silverwind87 What? We've grown soft. Is that such a bad thing?
"My husband, my skirt and your glass floor..."
"Eurgh, Rory!"
Am I wrong for laughing at that joke?
No-hohohohoho
and the thing that was not there, neither in the sentence not on her: her panties
is that why he got rid of the glass floor?
I mean, it's a joke. It's supposed to be laughed at.
Nope I laughed too😂
interesting idea to actually show the loops
neomp5 I think my favorite edit of this mini-episode pair was the one where it was done in split screen with the left half of the screen being the standard episode and the right half being the "exterior view," which sped up or slowed down to sync up with the time-shifting shenanigans in the "Time" half.
@@mithiwithi that's pretty cool is there a link...hmm
@@Gundam_JAY ruclips.net/video/5mPKEZJDcDM/видео.html
The loops are a fan edit addition.
Showing the loops ruins the episode for me as it makes no sense. The only way it makes sense to show the loops would be if we (the camera) were going back in time with the characters through the doors. But if that were the case, the camera angles would be all different the second time round.
Imagine the conversation if Amy and Clara met and compared notes about meeting another version of themselves.
Clara's was from the back so that makes sense but for Amt it's like she's never seen her own reflection
Amy and Clara… nice thought.
Clara actually slept with herself though. Amy didn’t get to do that.
The upskirt that almost destroyed causality. That's one powerful tuppence. No wonder rory keeps coming back to life.
3:30. The Doctor: Worse than a time loop is a space loop. Nothing can enter or leave the TARDIS ever again. Amy: Alright, kids. This is where things get complicated.
The way this loops round the points of view of them getting in the box is amazing. And this story is iconic.
This is actually quite a clever edit, nicely done! At first, when Amy did the first 'loop', I thought you were going to just keep replaying that part over and over, but I'm glad to see I was mistaken xD
Just because the Doctor told his past self to pull the wibbly lever, doesn't mean he was right. The Doctor took his future self's advice, pulled the wibbly lever, then immediately ran into the police box to pass on that advice without verifying its success. For all he knew, the wibbly lever could have imploded the TARDIS and killed everybody right after he disappeared into the police box.
Then, those doctors who fail die instantly.
If a Doctor comes in, It is because he succeeded, and pass the message to the Next one.
He had a hunch and wanted to see if he was right if he didn’t show up then that meant he was dead.
yes but how many levers did he pull until he got the right one could have been hundreds it a time loop
What episode was this
@@luisstarcraft But the point is, if in every case he goes through without varifying, he would just pull the wibbly lever and fail every time. As he goes back before they all die each time, this would leave them stuck in a loop. On the flip side, if he waited to see it was the right lever, the exterior would dematerialise and he wouldn't even be able to pass on the message...
This isn't a bootstrap paradox. If he uses the wrong lever, they die instantly, so the only doctor that could travel back is the one that picked the right lever, so the right lever must always be pulled.
Since there is exactly one possible timeline, there is no paradox. If you want to be nerdy, "all other quantum waveforms collapsed before they could exist, leaving only the timeline where he said the correct lever" (a fixed point).
Now if he took a lever back with him, used that to fix the problem, and took the same lever back again, then you'd have a bootstrap paradox of "who made the lever?"
Actually, in this case the bootstrap paradox question in this case is “Who found the right lever in the first place?”
@@kokirij0167 It wasn't necessary to find the right lever. Choice can only exist where there is more than one option.
Edit: It's essentially the doctor playing Russian Roulette where every barrel of the gun (Tardis), except one, is loaded with a bullet. He decides to pull the trigger while he can see the future version of himself (the unexploded Tardis) sitting in the corner, not dead. He doesn't need to figure out how to get the right barrel lined up, because he can see it already happened. The future Doctor effectively got out of the Tardis and said, "Pull the trigger", but the fact that the Tardis hadn't already exploded, meant that The Doctor was always going to pull the right lever.
Brian Valenti But again, who was the first Doctor to pick a switch without being told? Because the loop is infinite in both directions-a Doctor always comes in through the door to replace the other, who exits into the next TARDIS. If the loop goes infinitely in both directions, then every Doctor would be able to see the unexploded TARDIS in the corner and would be waiting for another Doctor to come in and tell him what lever to pull. And as such, every Doctor will have been told by a previous Doctor which switch to pull without ever having made the choice on his own. There is no “first” or the loop is broken which is impossible. Bootstrap paradox.
So we're a bunch of nerds using philosophy of science to determine what happened in a doctor who episode?
Love it
@@mephostopheles3752 Pick a switch? There isn't a decision to be made, as only the correct switch could ever be pulled.
You have 1 apple. You will eat an apple. How do you choose which apple to eat, when you from the futures shows up, points to your apple and says "eat that one!"
If there were 2 switches he could have pulled to survive, then there would have been a decision to be made and that would be a bootstrap paradox.
'So Pond put some trouses on. 😂 That will be safer for whole universe 😂
It could maybe control the universe also
Except, from future episodes, we know she did no such thing. ;)
@@gl1346 it’s her husband, I don’t think she minds in the least……probably likes it.
As long as Rory learned to admire his wife while holdimg TARDIS cables that can trap the crew in a space loop…..
This really hammers in how a time loop works. Not that things have to or must happen. It just DOES happen.
Ah, all you humans who don't understand, you're all so linear. See, you have to look at it from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint. It's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.
Says the one who was supposed to know that 7 lives later.
ItsPillow BR I wrote this comment probably a long time ago before I watched Classic Who, and certainly before this and my previous profile pic.
Oh, ok then.
Yeah that's what he says, but what he means is "it still works exactly as you think it does, only ontological and bootstrap paradoxes are possible".
Gordon Ramsay's Lamb Sauce Finder Actually now that I've seen it, this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
*Spoiler*
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I am so pleased with the intro credits repeating themselves when amy goes in
Yeah
I know exactly what Rory was thinking ;)
So does Jack Harness, but he can't tell you.
I think we all figured it out
And don't remind me
and it beats my fanfiction
have s** with two am-
I suspect it similar to my thought of 2 Rories or 2 The Doctors.
This might be one of if not the most creative Dr who episode of all time
And it’s not even an episode
@@axelnilsson5124I just remembered heaven sent exists
oh god its even more confusing than the original
Kiva
It makes perfect sense
Henshin
@@IsaacGonzalezFit good ol' Kamen Rider
The best Tardis trio of all time. Oh this remind me of when the characters were well-developed and fun and rapport.
I never understood why they never kept it in one episode, also, best name for episode ever XD
Seriously though this is the best special since time crash
wait was this not in an episode??? i thought it was the beginning of the doctor's wife (where the tardis becomes idris)
@@gregkava1276 I wasn’t expecting a reply 7 years later haha but yeah it wasn’t in a main episode, it was 2 short special episodes
@@electriclord3 lol damn i thought i had seen it when it was on netflix lol
"my husband, my skirt, and your glass floor"
"ohh, *RORY!* "
Did any one notice that on the first "repeat", even the credits came up!
It's an edit
cmsracing he did it himself
Its two mini-episodes stitched together.
Doctor: That's the second that's happened. Amy: What?! Doctor: Oh it's a long story, the Master got his TARDIS stuck in here once.
Rory and Amy: Try to sound complicated
Doctor: “THE WIBBLY LEVER!”
THE WIBBLY LEVER THANK YOU!
Wow! Love how this works with the repeated bits. The pov really changes, at least for me! Fascinating.
I actually like this better than the original version, love the scene
same
I’m so glad I got to hear Matt smith yell the Wibbly lever Four times
who doesnt love a bit of pond on pond ... minus all of time and space going bye bye:)
When The Doctor says "Oh, Rory" gets me every time
Producer: let’s make a mini episode what does it need.
The doctor: confusion and understanding beyond normal needs
Rory: lunacy without end
Amy: L E G S. Just L E G S
Time and space situation so impossible you could write: yes and no (according to who logic)
And lastly
The wibily wobiliy lever, never leave home with out it
This was a special short episode written and produced for the BBC Comic Relief Red Nose Day for 2011
Lol
0:51 Summon the emergency Rory in the case of a level 5 social interaction
No, but I'm about to find out. THE WIBBLY LEVER! THE WIBBLY LEVER THANK YOU!
When the 11th Doctor's theme begins you know what's coming to happen is going to be epic and then the second Amy walks into the TARDIS!!
Goddesses, this is brilliant. Watching it like this made everything so much clearer. Empirically, I knew that time would repeat from the perspective of the one who stepped inside the TARDIS but this solidified it. Fantastic!
Ya know I'm deep in the Tom Baker era now and had a blast going through the Pertwee era, but, this one short reminds me how damn good the Matt Smith era was. I feel it's the best era ever in Who history, Hope you read this one day Mr. Moffatt
Excellent. They should have done a director's cut of "Space" and "Time" like this and included it on the blu-ray release as a bonus feature.
Rory: Absolutely no problem at all
Captain Jack: I can’t tell what I’m thinking now
Amy's question is answered in Good Night; she was curious about remembering both the current timeline and the previous one altered by the cracks. His answer was to stopping thinking about and move on.
And have an ice-cream 🍦 I love that short.
1:50 "It was this skirt-"
*TARDIS stops*
"What was that?"
"RORY, DID YOU DROP A THERMO COUPLING?"
"Sorry."
"HOW DID YOU DO THAT? I TOLD YOU DON'T DROP THEM. I SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED NOT DROPPING THEM."
"It was my fault"
"Of course it wasn't your fault."
"It kind of was her fault."
"How can it be her fault?"
"Because it was my skirt, my husband and your glass floor."
*11 looking confused and looks down*
"EEEUGH, RORY!"
"Sorry."
The 4th Doctor had a TARDIS materialized inside the TARDIS. I'd wager this is a sort of nostalgic nod to that.
Captain Jack would be so proud
Who composed Beethoven's fifth
I think it was the Doctor.
But could he have composed it if he simply repeated it... ?
It’s called a Bootstrap Paradox.
Google it.
I did
You're right. WHO composed Beethoven's Fifth.
That moment when you understand the TARDIS console is just bits of junk and stuff soldered and welded to the console. Hence, the Wibbly lever.
Thank you for putting this together, I always hoped someone would. I used to watch it this way by skipping back manually but it was such a pain.
4:32 My thoughts exactly Rory. My thoughts exactly.
You have no idea how happy this makes me. Actually, now that I've said it, you have some idea. Never mind.
I like to think that he tried all the other levers and blew up a hundred future versions of himself before finding the wibbly lever.
Death is definitive. There is no coming back, so if he blowed countless of his future selves (which after the first one would be impossible, since he would be dead), then ... actually never mind, nothing after the parenthesis would make sense. He (or rather they all) would be dead, that's really it.
Showing each loop twice makes this so much better then the way it was originally
"Forget the banana!"
-Matthew Smith
I think he prefers to be called matt
"Go! Now! Don't drop the Banana!"
-Christopher Eccleston.
What's more deadly?
Daleks?
Cybermen?
Sontarans??
Nope...
Amy's skirt.
1:57 apparently there is a sniper in the TARDIS trying to kill the Doctor.
Edit: No wait... multiple snipers.
2, 7, and 11. what's important about those? well, they're all primes, and their actors were patrick troughton, sylvester mccoy, and matt smith. hm. patrick has 16 letters in his name, sylvester has 14, and matt has 9. 2 has 2 more than 7, and 7 has 5 more than 11. 16 also has 7 more than 11. so 5 is also prime as well, and peter davison has 12 letters in his name, 4 less than 2, 2 less than 7, and 3 more than 11. 5 is also 2 less than 7. all other numbers besides the primes were squares, 4 and 9. tom baker has 8 letters in his name, 8 less than 2, 6 less than 7, 1 less than 11, and 4 less than 5. the new numbers from that are 8, 6, and 1, 8 and 6 are both divisible by 2. they're also divisible by 4 and 3, respectively. 11-1 is 10, and christopher eccleston has 20 letters in his name, 4 more than 2, 6 more than 7, 11 more than 11, 8 more than 5, 12 more than 4. 12-4=8. paul mcgann has 10 letters in his name, 2 less than 10's 12. 10 has the same number of letters in his name as 5, which is 10 divided by 2, which is mcgann's difference with 10's. capaldi has 12 letters in his name, the same as his doctor number, the same as 10 and 5, and is 10+5-3. in all of this, if the sum of all the numbers here is divisible by 3, doctor who is the illuminati. 16+14+9+2+2+7+7+5+11+16+7+11+5+12+4+2+2+7+3+11+5+2+7+4+9+8+8+2+6+7+1+11+4+5+8+6+1+8+6+2+4+3+11+1+10+20+4+2+6+7+11+11+8+5+12+4+12+4+8+10+2+10+12+10+5+10+2+10+12+10+5+3=507, which divides by 3 evenly into 169. also, numbers 1-12 added together is 78, which, when divided by 3, goes evenly into 26. if you add 26 to 169 you get 195, which divides by 3 evenly into 65, which when divided by 5, is 13, the number of different bodies the doctor has had so far. illuminati confirmed.
You deserve a medal for this comment sir.
Russell Carter xD thanks
MIND. BLOWN.
Peter Senior Shouldn't you be curing cancer or something?
Peter Senior wait what...im Illuminati No im not at least not yet
After all these years the "unexpected house" line makes me laugh the most.
*dramatic music*
"Im about to find out"
"THE WIBBILY LEVER!!"
From Clara and the TARDIS to this... there's a theme here, Moffat
This was BEFORE Clara.
8:11 you can still see the light from the TARDIS in the windows. Rory tries his best to hide it with his head.
I love this kind of time travel, where information can be spawned out of nowhere based on your own future actions
Because you made this video, you have caused my brain to process this mini-sode better then the orginial. This edit is awesome
I saw a rule 34 of Amy x Amy once. Now I know where it comes from XD
Sauce?
Byakuya Kuchiki Barbeque
Source?
what the hell is rule 34?
Internet Rule #34: If it exists, there is porn of it.
Someone coincides with internet rule #63: There is an alternate reality in which you are the opposite gender (M->F or F->M)
"You cheated, you wore a skirt"
"I didn't wear a skit."
"Well, that would've worked too."
I absolutely love this edit!
It's not an edit...
+Sam McLean how is it an edit. An edit is where you take an original and turn it into something else, this is just the original
+Sadieee They repeated the parts where they go through the tardis
Because of my skirt
Rory's eyes and
Your glass floor
Doctor: oh Rory!
Can't exactly blame Rory on this one... I'd of done the same 😂
If the temporal Causality loop didn't work, the Doctor wouldn't have seen himself come back, he would have panicked and pressed the wrong lever, causing their immediate death, stopping the Doctor from ever coming back in time to warn himself to not pull that lever.
Oh Rory! Even though it's a glass floor, that doesn't mean you have to look up at the girl standing above you!
LMAO! I guess you're right!
He was looking at the skirt that she was drawing attention to. Also, they *are* married.
Yeah, not sure you get how it works being a male
@@jamiehudson2747 The fact that you cringe at one of your old comments means that you have improved, and oh boy did I cringe at this comment. Idk what I was thinking 4 years ago lol
yea but its his w i f e
Rory, I respect your personal favorite but he's by far my favorite 11 companion.
2:23 he is still looking
This is the most confusing peace of time-travel cinematography EVER!
a tardis in a tardis...
TARDISCEPTION
hah XD thats a bizzar thought LOL xD. The only time where a Tardis under goes something that involves rebooting itself X3 and to be honest I dont blame the 11th doctor for initiating a reset/reboot of his tardis just to prevent the tardis from re materalizing inside itself again XD.
www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/68737979865/ Not the first time this has been done. The last time, however, it was deliberate.
IKR XD
dooWEEOOOOOOOOOOO
3:13 and that's how valve came up with the idea portal
Portal was released before this.
“THE WIBBLY LEVER!!”
So any flirts with herself, Rory is confused by himself and the doctor acts as normal as ever
This is peak Moffat! His plots may have got a bit convoluted at times but ideas like this are so brilliant!
I like the Doctor getting some time with the Centurion one-on-one. I know he got that with Amy, but some time with Rory is nice.
I love it. You have a problem you don't know how to solve, so you try everything, find what works, & go back in time to tell yourself.
It's like the fucking endless-eight.
For those of you who got the reference, you're awseome.
yeah
Explain the reference now!
Lee Taylor "Endless Eight" "Endoresu Eito" (エンドレスエイト) August 7, 2009. May 4, 2011. The loop continues for the 15,532nd time,
EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!
(I hope you read that in a dalek voice)
It's a series of episodes from the anime series, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya", where the same episode is played eight times in a row, the only thing different about each of them is the characters' clothing and the eight one where the loop breaks.
That was brilliant
Miss Matt Smith wish he was still the doctor
Miss this tardis, miss this doctor, it all felt so warm, genuine and honest. Sigh.
"Ok we just saved all causality,but just in case.... pond but some trousers on" as he said that Rory got very sad
I just realized, this video was uploaded on my 15th Birthday!!!