Nitrocellulose over linseed oil - Satin nitro guitar finish part 2/2

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @AlexanderSandyHenderson
    @AlexanderSandyHenderson 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, most excellent video, I'm doing the exact same thing to a thinline, was hunting around for info on drying time pre clear coat, only 5 more days to wait......thanks for the video, and greeting from New Zealand.

  • @freddiemoes9882
    @freddiemoes9882 3 года назад

    Thanks Lone Star Guitars for sharing this info! This is exactly the effect I was looking for. I tried this method and it works really great. I added a sunburst effect as well, just by rubbing in a black/brown mix of dry pigment powder into the last (sticky) layer of BLO. Starting at the outline of the body and calmly rubbing it in towards the middle, this creates a very nicely ‘aged’ fading effect. A few coats of satin nitro give it a very authentic natural look, with indeed the open pores. I’m very, very pleased with it!

  • @kdtrimble
    @kdtrimble Год назад

    That's sweet! Looks awesome. I'm normally not a fan of gold hardware but in this case it's a perfect choice.

  • @davidparkes7977
    @davidparkes7977 2 года назад

    BEAUTIFUL

  • @ambroseaz
    @ambroseaz 5 лет назад

    I love natural open-pore finishes on a guitar. I have a mahogany P-Bass body, and have been looking for ages for a tutorial on how to achieve this finish. Yours is the only one I've found. I'd never have thought to apply nitro over oil. Thanks for the tip!!! Great looking guitar!!!

  • @franciscoacosta255
    @franciscoacosta255 7 лет назад +5

    dude!!! amazing work!!! so clean and neat!!!

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      francisco acosta Thanks a lot!!

    • @franciscoacosta255
      @franciscoacosta255 7 лет назад +1

      the narration of the video, the filming, and focus on the work you do is vital for this kind of tuts or demonstrative videos, Suscribed and liked!!!

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад

      Much appreciated!

  • @livergen
    @livergen 2 года назад

    You did a Beautiful job Sir. I know you are proud & you should be ..... Very Beautiful....

  • @Mojoman57
    @Mojoman57 4 года назад

    Love the open grain look. Beautiful job.

  • @russelw.6288
    @russelw.6288 3 года назад

    I love u dude 😂😂. This is sooo good. Never thought i could do satin nitro over oil

  • @001USA001
    @001USA001 4 года назад

    I don’t like gold hardware. Usually. In this case the glow on the body from the bridge is beautiful. It also goes well with the PG. Very nice work.
    Subscribed.

  • @yanezas
    @yanezas 5 лет назад

    Great job!!
    Thanks for sharing

  • @luistobias4288
    @luistobias4288 5 лет назад +1

    Nice work! Which nitro brand are you using ? (and totally unrelated, what's up with the bite on your left hand?)

  • @rifosi
    @rifosi 6 лет назад +1

    This is very interesting. I always thought that oils (any oil) would not serve as a previous coat for nitrocellulose lacquer, meaning that the lacquer would not able to stick to it. So any polimerized oil should work? Here in Brazil there’s Carnauba Oil, that is polimerized (cooked), harder than linseed oil in a way that offer better moisture protection, and it’s as easy as Truoil to apply. I recently used in an SP/BR acoustic and I liked it. But visually, I liked your project most. The oil really enhanced the grain of the wood, and the satin finish really make it. It’s a killer guitar, congratulations!

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Ricardo Fonseca That's what I thought, until I did some experiments a few years back. Turns out it works very well. I've tried this with linseed oil and tru oil so far. Both work well, as long as the oil has fully cured. Even after some years there is no lifting or checking in the finish. I can not tell wether or not your oil will work as well, but I can't imagine it won't. Try it on some scrap pieces of wood and you'll know for sure. Best of luck!

    • @Georg93
      @Georg93 2 года назад

      Was the the nitro over carnauba successful? I have made carnauba + linseed oil mix and now, I am thinking about nitro on top, for harder finish.

    • @rifosi
      @rifosi 2 года назад +1

      @@Georg93 , I ended up not trying it yet. Anyway, after having made and having used on stage some oil and wax only guitars, I think that is definitely better to go with a harder finish over it. Otherwise the finish starts to deteriorate very early.

    • @Georg93
      @Georg93 2 года назад +1

      @@rifosi Thanks for the answer and experience! That was my thought also. For only oil/carnauba finish, the wood probably must be very high density, to be nice for normal use. Will go for a thin, clean coat of nitro. I have a slight suspicion, that very thin layer of nitro over oil/carnauba, will not crack so much as normal nitro.

  • @Sophak
    @Sophak 3 года назад

    Great!!

  • @toniusheidemann5771
    @toniusheidemann5771 4 года назад

    The result is just marvellous and it looks almost like the guitar that I have in mind.
    What would I have to do if I wanted that beautiful brown colour with the structure of the wood showing, but with a glossy finish? Would I have to use grain filler before oiling the body? It would be great if you could offer some advice! :)

  • @ActuallySettle
    @ActuallySettle 4 года назад

    I've been trying to figure out how to finish a project. Oil is too dingy and doesn't protect well, gloss nitro is a lot of work. This looks like a beautiful finish.

  • @bpdarragh
    @bpdarragh 4 года назад

    Looks fantastic. So the nitro stuck OK to the oiled wood? no other prep aside from sanding after the grain raised after applying the oil?

  • @FF-so3su
    @FF-so3su Год назад

    👍😊

  • @jurizmo3923
    @jurizmo3923 2 года назад

    Beautiful!!! How long did you wait after last coat before you installed hardware and pickguard? Hours? Days?

  • @twelthstring
    @twelthstring 11 месяцев назад

    I got the message, but what if you need to remove hair, dust or orange peel after spraying, what is the procedure after sanding? How do you achieve a beautiful satin finish in that case?

  • @nathancloud6344
    @nathancloud6344 Год назад

    Would this be considered a Satin Nitro over CAB? I'm looking for a good cleaner and am cautious as to what you use. I recently bought a PRS with Satin/Nitro over CAB as stated. I would like your thoughts as to a good cleaner. Thank you

  • @taab7
    @taab7 2 года назад

    Guitar looks nice but how does it feel to the touch - especially the neck? Should you not buff and polish the satin nitro top coat to get a silky smooth touch or is that only necessary for gloss nitro?

  • @michaelaiello9525
    @michaelaiello9525 Год назад

    I'm using my first Satin nitro finish and it's confusing me. It's a Mohawk product. I'm doing nice light coats, but the finish looks almost dusty and it has a roughness when it dries. It is NOT orange peel, just a fine roughness. I'm heating the nitro; the guitar is 70's warm. I take it outside just to spray for only a couple of minutes at 60+ degrees. Again, quite warm nitro, warmer, but not crazy warmer inside than outside, not cold outside,, for only 2 minutes or less to spray. I am having a rough satin finish. 1) is this normal for satin? 2) Can I sand between coats of satin? 3) if so, what grit and how long should I wait? 4) Are my coats not "wet" enough? 5) can a Satin be sanded and polished to something more like gloss? 6) If i can't sort out the satin, Can I spray Gloss over Satin after sanding and not have issues? Thanks,,, lots of questions here and I appreciate any shared wisdom. Thanks!

  • @toddcontino7271
    @toddcontino7271 3 года назад

    Would it be possible to put the satin nitro directly over the prepped wood WITHOUT using a stain? I like the light color of the ash body I have and don’t want to change it but want that open natural look still. And preferably a matte finish

  • @elraim73
    @elraim73 4 года назад

    That is a lovely guitar and a very nice video tutorial. Thanks.
    I just noticed that you lined the pickup cavities with copper foil, but not the control cavity. Are all the wires shielded?

    • @biggstile
      @biggstile Год назад

      He put a strip to the bridge, which is grounded later. Clever.

  • @hunterfagan6272
    @hunterfagan6272 4 года назад

    Beautiful work! Did you even have to sand the finish?

  • @s3sco2002
    @s3sco2002 3 года назад

    Can you tell me what is the brand of the Satin Nitro Finish?

  • @dashbmw
    @dashbmw 6 лет назад +1

    Hi, that's exactly what I'm looking for also on my LP Junior. Question, should the dried oil be hit with a shellac before the nitro?

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад

      +Craig Roy I haven't found that to be necessary. Just make sure the oil has fully cured before hitting it with nitro. It should be hard and it should not feel sticky anymore. Be sure to use a curing oil such as BLO or tru oil. Good luck!

  • @bobsaturday4273
    @bobsaturday4273 4 года назад +1

    too bad you covered up so much of the beautiful wood on the front with p-gaurd . as good as yours looks I like the traditional control plate

  • @glfrayt
    @glfrayt 7 лет назад +1

    Hi, really nice job! I need an advice. I own a martin D18 guitar and the original satin finish of the headplate now looks totally glossy (after playing and wrong polish products). Which product should I use to respray the headplate to have the original satin look? Thank you very much

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +glfrayt Hi, thanks! You could try two different things. First of all, you could try sanding it very lightly using very fine sandpaper (2000 grit is a good starting point). Don't apply any pressure, just 'wipe' it very lightly with the sandpaper. If the surface is flat you should see a fairly consistent 'flat look' quite quickly. Clean the surface with some finish cleaner (I use mineral spirits) from time to time to make sure the sanding dust (even though there should hardly be any) doesn't 'cloud' the finish. Of course, let the mineral spirits dry out completely before assessing the results.

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +glfrayt However if this doesn't give you the results you are looking for, you could respray as well. Try to find out what type of finish is used on your Martin. It's probably nitro, but I'm not 100% sure. If you spray nitro over nitro it will dissolve into the old coat nicely. If the original coat is poly it will not (you can still respray with nitro but the result might not look as good). Either way, sand the surface lightly with some 1000 grit sandpaper. Don't sand away too much, again just wipe it lightly to give the new coat something to hang on to. Clean the surface thoroughly with finish cleaner. Then respray with satin nitro. I like to use the satin nitro by Manchester guitar tech (although I'm not sure if they ship to the States as well). They also offer a 'matt' top coat which is even 'flatter'. Try to match it with the original coat. Otherwise Stewmac also sells a satin nitro, but I haven't tried it. After about three coats you can sand lightly with 1000 grit sandpaper and clean again. Then spray the final coat. No more sanding or polishing after the last coat. That's it! I recommend trying it on some scrap wood or a cheap guitar first. Best of luck!

  • @the-sewage-man
    @the-sewage-man 3 года назад

    question for anyone who will listen: can you check/crack a satin nitro finish? or does that only work for gloss nitro?

  • @RealSebus
    @RealSebus 7 лет назад +1

    how did you prepare the wood? was there any sanding after the nitro?
    the guitar looks stunning!

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      Thanks! As for the preparation, I sand the wood up to 1000 grit. Even the finest sanding marks should be removed since they will show up after the oil coats. During the oil application, some lint and dust particles will be trapped in the oil coats (this is pretty much inevitable). They won't really show up until you apply the nitro. So after the first nitro coat I sand it very lightly with 800-1000 grit sandpaper. Then I apply another 2-3 coats. No sanding in between coats. Also I don't do any sanding or buffing after the last coat. If the wood is prepared well it should be perfectly flat and smooth.

    • @RealSebus
      @RealSebus 7 лет назад

      do you make circular movements with sanding paper?

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  7 лет назад +1

      +Sebastian Kisiel When I'm roughing out I just sand in whatever direction works best (but always in straight lines). As soon as I start fine sanding (400 grit and upwards) I always sand in the direction of the grain (even though it's a bit awkward in some spots). That gives me the best results. Wherever possible I use a sanding block to get the surfaces as flat as possible. I also made curved sanding blocks out wood for sanding curved parts.

    • @RealSebus
      @RealSebus 7 лет назад

      Thank you very much!

    • @s3sco2002
      @s3sco2002 3 года назад

      Can you share the link to the spray can for the nitrocellulose? Thanks 🙏🏾. You’ve done a remarkable job

  • @jasonlevey5164
    @jasonlevey5164 6 лет назад

    Hey there I've been combing ebay can't find any decent diy kits any advice. Pls and thanks:) great job btw

  • @joshxpfp
    @joshxpfp 6 лет назад

    Does the wood have to be bare for the oil and nitro to take or can a stain be applied for before the finish is applied..?

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад

      +joshxpfp I've done tru oil over stains which works well. However I've never applied nitro after that. I think it'll take if the oil has fully cured, but I can't say for certain. Good luck.

  • @aoffer100
    @aoffer100 6 лет назад +1

    Hi brother, I have a question. Can I paint nitrocellulose with wood dye stain?

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад +1

      Are you referring to applying a stain over nitro? Or applying nitro over a stain?

    • @aoffer100
      @aoffer100 6 лет назад

      Thanks brother, I do not have a good language. But I use it over a stain

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад

      No worries. Applying nitro over a stain works just fine. Just make sure the stain has fully cured before applying the nitro. Good luck!

  • @MRplayer549
    @MRplayer549 5 лет назад

    Would this turn gloss after playing it for a while?

  • @gerhardwiesinger
    @gerhardwiesinger 6 лет назад

    Which linseed oil brand do you use?

    • @LoneStarGuitars
      @LoneStarGuitars  6 лет назад

      The one in this video is actually just a generic local brand. Usually I will use tru oil (which is a blend of different oils, including linseed).